❓ Who Needs Win Conditions? ❓ - 🔵⚫ - Dimir Control - Standard

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  • We're going to play this game 🎲 until you run out of cards 🃏 and I win! 🏆
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    0:00 - Deck Tech
    2:30 - Match One vs. Golgari Midrange
    42:20 - Match Two vs. Dimir Control
    1:17:41 - Closing Thoughts
    Recording Date - May 7, 2024
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  • @tonythepokemonguy751
    @tonythepokemonguy751 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +34

    “Now im only two steps ahead” is classic Jim

  • @Xander756
    @Xander756 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    Jim honestly just has the best Magic stream out there. He is personable, he's funny, he's a good player. It's just like hanging out with him.

  • @kithkindeck
    @kithkindeck 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    Getting to have surgical extraction in your control deck for free is such amazing utility. It is quietly a verypowerful effect, giving you game 1 percentages agaisnt combo and allowing you to see their hand so you have perfect info to allocate resources. Cover up is quickly becoming my favorite black boardwipe. Eat your heart out, damnation.

    • @DiscardatRandom
      @DiscardatRandom 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Damnation is still better but its close

    • @Guevon_Pajaro
      @Guevon_Pajaro 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah in Standard sadly no, but it's a great card

  • @AutkastKain
    @AutkastKain 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Jace is a pretty good no-wincon win condition.

  • @PillowRat101
    @PillowRat101 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Hey Jim! Just want to say thanks for being so great about pronoun stuff. As a queer mtg nerd who has felt like I'm on the outside sometimes, I really appreciate you! Thanks for making the community a better place!! ❤❤❤

  • @jamesinifiniz
    @jamesinifiniz 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Honestly you're just really convincing me to hit all the buttons. Love the content, Jim!

  • @krimhorn
    @krimhorn 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    To the person asking about waiting to kill: a control deck relies on flexibility of answers. Unless your answer is specifically sorcery speed you wait so that you have the option to use any answer you might have in hand at any time. Say you have 5 mana and you kill a creature on your turn. Sure, that creature's now dead. Maybe you have a kill spell and a counterspell with 3 mana left. Your opponent plays an uncounterable creature with ward 3 on their turn that kills you. Playing on their turn means you kill that, take a hit from the other creature then deal with that on a subsequent turn.
    A control deck only wants to play an Instant on their own turn if there's a significant benefit to it: your opponent's tapped out an they play protection spells (AKA Green Counterspell) or you're falling behind and need to find something specific (and probably sorcery speed as well) or lose are the two big ones.

    • @Jordan-dg8tp
      @Jordan-dg8tp 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Funnily enough, I think the "last possible moment" is still correct, but WHEN that last possible moment is, is very hard to tell sometimes for newer control mages.
      Sometimes, last possible is when you can't use your life as a resource anymore, sometimes it is on your turn because you want to hit a land/sorcery answer. Sometimes the last chance is when you know they have (or likely have) a response to your kill, so it needs to be on your turn.

    • @jojodelacroix
      @jojodelacroix 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I would also like to note that it's important to think about what removal you have and what they might have. For instance, I've played some control in constructed and I was pretty good about knowing when to use my removal. But in limited, I would always default to using it on my foes turn, but that ends up biting you in the ass in formats like OTJ where Snakeskin Veil is in it. Not sure why it took me forever to adjust to the fact that in different formats, especially limited, you are more likley to face combat tricks that can push your foe out of removal range or protect their creatures. Sometimes white has protection spells. Black has the "when my creature dies it returns to the battlefield spells". It's also important to keep in mind that if you have a -x/-x black spell or a deal x damage red spell or a green fight spell, that a combat trick can make a creature big enough to withstand the kill spell. All of these things can seem a bit basic on the surface. What makes a player good is being able to string all of this together.

  • @MCKejml
    @MCKejml 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Jesus Christ Jim that was a really nasty deck. No wincons except mill!

  • @williamkohler8073
    @williamkohler8073 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video. Thanks!

  • @maxdambrosio3248
    @maxdambrosio3248 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The two steps ahead joke got me too good XP

  • @MikulOnIce85
    @MikulOnIce85 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It feels funny seeing how three steps ahead was initially underrated by *everyone*

  • @masonkoch8100
    @masonkoch8100 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think the person asking about waiting till the other persons turn was asking why IS that the default, not critiquing the plays.
    The reasons being not wanting to give opponents perfect information and having different options depending on why they do

  • @masonkoch8100
    @masonkoch8100 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    “Control mirrors are awesome, keep or mulligan?”
    Keep if I’m watching Jim play, mulligan if I’m the one playing

  • @exevalkyriestaff7427
    @exevalkyriestaff7427 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    First opponent played at a genius level. Obviously a man of culture; handsome and cunning.

  • @James-ov8pg
    @James-ov8pg 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Keep. I have a lot of fun in control mirrors. I dread them though, it's stressful.

  • @sshroom7713
    @sshroom7713 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Thanks for always reminding me to do the youtube stuff!

  • @kaemonbonet4931
    @kaemonbonet4931 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    For the person asking, "why shoot the creatures on the opponents turn."
    Information. By not killing the creature until its relevant you deny the opponent critical information. As long as you arent losing mana or opportunity, its good to force your opponent to play their hand out without the full knowledge of what you have. It also give you more information. Maybe you have one kill spell and they have a 4/4 in play but could play a 5/5 haste. By waiting until your opponent commits to the board you prevent some damage and potentially messed their turn up by making them spend the opportunity they could have used for something else to put a creature down you could kill.
    Think of it like youre bluffing a counterspell or anything else your deck might have. They don't know what you have, perhaps they play conservative and only attack you eith the one creature, trying to force the kill spell out of your hand. In that case you may let the creature through choosing instead to draw cards while the threat is low.
    That's why, in general you wait with your kill spells. Its not always true, some decks gain value from their creatures so you may not want them to untap with them. Sometimes youmight lose the opportunity to kill the creature if you wait, there are some creatures which have ward on one side of the card and not the other or some decks that play protection and conterspells which the opponent may use if they have open mana.

  • @thehero2026
    @thehero2026 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Seems like a really fun deck! Haven't seen a competetive "true" control deck in a while.

  • @yavivanov6650
    @yavivanov6650 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Play Jace, Mill for 12, and then after they target it with removal, otawara back to hand and replay for the last 15 cards

  • @DolanBomb
    @DolanBomb 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    every deck looks fun when you play it, I love that

  • @natepriebe2647
    @natepriebe2647 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love a good honest control deck

  • @bryankopkin6869
    @bryankopkin6869 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Looks sweet

  • @barbedwire9975
    @barbedwire9975 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Originally when I saw the Dimir I was like “this looks cool and good but you lose wandering emperor and no more lies surely it’s just worse then uw?”. This video did a really good job of showing that there are actually some real benefits to being in UB.

  • @falandfriends4760
    @falandfriends4760 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Control mirrors were awesome with nephalia drownyard.

  • @Deargo_Prime
    @Deargo_Prime 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    thanks jim

  • @faro9999
    @faro9999 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fun deck.

  • @austinmcgonigal5655
    @austinmcgonigal5655 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Oh yea baby dimir gang rise up

  • @MrFireInTheDisco
    @MrFireInTheDisco 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Here for a long fun time

  • @alexmilne1464
    @alexmilne1464 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +44

    I could imagine being one of the best magic players in the world, getting told how to play the game by a bunch of twitch viewers. I'd be so annoyed

    • @BlackDragonStudios1
      @BlackDragonStudios1 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      It's part of how people learn..a lot of the time people can only catch their mistakes when someone else points it out.

    • @enricomassignani
      @enricomassignani 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Actually Twitch chat saved his butt multiple times. Especially when new cards are involved.

    • @GoldenSkeeter
      @GoldenSkeeter 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@enricomassignani 80%+ not useful though

    • @gregorym7588
      @gregorym7588 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      *Me watching Jim not read the card maybe ten times in draft *

    • @enricomassignani
      @enricomassignani 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@gregorym7588 "Reading is busted" - Jeff Hoogland

  • @LyubenV
    @LyubenV 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Jim have you thought about what soundboard stuff you'll do for bloomburrow? Animal stuff. Maybe meows, bunny sounds, horse neighs perhaps?

    • @SpeakerWiggin49
      @SpeakerWiggin49 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I hope he finds some quotes from the Redwall TV series

  • @evanshaner991
    @evanshaner991 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My inner blue mage loves this content

  • @sampotter100
    @sampotter100 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Like this

  • @JonaxII
    @JonaxII 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is a comment. There you go, algo!

  • @davecoburn6934
    @davecoburn6934 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I hit the buttons

  • @rcglinski
    @rcglinski 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I like.

  • @gamekeeper777
    @gamekeeper777 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Im up a duress down a deduce in my build,makes a hufe difference in control match and doesnt hurt as much as normal in standard right now with all the current decks.

  • @jojodelacroix
    @jojodelacroix 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    As a member of the LGBT community who also has a lot of non-binary friends, I just want to say thanks for insisting people use they/them for unknown foes. Also, there aren't many women in the community so it's nice to not have people immediately refer to us as men. It's not a huge deal considering it's an invisible person on the other side of the screen which you have no way of communicating with, but it's a nice thing to do. :)

  • @bend1636
    @bend1636 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Woot

  • @capstate818
    @capstate818 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Mag-uhl-yice is pretty close to how you pronounce that name, with the emphasis on the i

  • @8017668
    @8017668 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    32:42 *WHY*

  • @Guevon_Pajaro
    @Guevon_Pajaro 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Magalhaes - sounds Brazilian, but idk for sure. But I believe it's pronounced "mogg-ah-eye-yes" if that helps ❤

    • @Guevon_Pajaro
      @Guevon_Pajaro 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Source: fan of football, ⚽ arsenal fan with one Gabriel Magalhaes 🇧🇷

  • @isaacphillips7738
    @isaacphillips7738 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Twitch chatter- What's the win con?
    Jim- Eventually.

    • @Red_Mag3
      @Red_Mag3 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Time always wins

  • @zjarosz
    @zjarosz 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The bots found jims channel oh noooooooo

  • @nicolasbergeron-doucet1798
    @nicolasbergeron-doucet1798 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Cool deck! Wish I had the wildcards to build it

  • @adamgreen6051
    @adamgreen6051 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    !

  • @princequincy5421
    @princequincy5421 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Can't wait to see someone get the achievement of using devious coverup on a mana-screwed monocolor deck to delete all their lands

    • @yavivanov6650
      @yavivanov6650 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I've done it to a red ramp player, who resolved the ultimate of Koth - it's an emblem with "whenever you play a mountain deal 4 to any target".. Well, I removed their lands :D

  • @user-oc3ud2ob9k
    @user-oc3ud2ob9k 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So this is sequel of yesterday video's last match

  • @Rufi83
    @Rufi83 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Loved this set so far and all of the brews you have made. My one big gripe is to please not make the entire bonus sheet mythic rares. Between the fomori vaults and the synthesizers and that artifact that taps for mana and heals, my poor wildcards...

  • @alexmilne1464
    @alexmilne1464 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Here's your comment

  • @phillipsullivan9614
    @phillipsullivan9614 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Fine Jim gosh darn it I hit the buttons I did the thing!

  • @GeusGames
    @GeusGames 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    At 19:50, why not Jace, plus on Glissa, then cover up next turn?
    If opponent attacks Jace, he survives at 2.
    Edit: before as well, would it not be better to cover up first, then play Aclazotz, since you would protect Jace for sure for one turn, then plus on the knight and have an Aclazots in play with a 0 power creature on the opponent's board?

  • @Hylianlink51047
    @Hylianlink51047 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I had the same problem with the Elgato hardware. I got overly excited since they're really top notch, but my computer can't handle it all :/

  • @Red_Mag3
    @Red_Mag3 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The best conteol decks make your opponents lose the will to play Magic, the longer the hiatus they take, the better the control deck.

  • @maxij469
    @maxij469 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    You can just call them opponent too

  • @Nico-yj5mi
    @Nico-yj5mi 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bump

  • @user-cf3xm1cq4e
    @user-cf3xm1cq4e 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    But you have wincons: creatures, creature lands, mill planeswalker... Lier!

  • @SymSne
    @SymSne 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    No. No. No, This is cancer.

  • @jareddodd5291
    @jareddodd5291 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Jim bringing gender politics randomly into his MTG videos that are in no way related to gender or politics is unfortunate. I watch this stuff to escape that kind of rhetoric. :/

  • @paxhayward6985
    @paxhayward6985 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I can't not root for the opponents whenever he plays a control deck, this looks miserable

  • @technetin
    @technetin 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Really lame listening to you scold people for not using they or some bullshit like who are you their dad? Stuuff like that is why I only watch time to time and not a sub

    • @barbedwire9975
      @barbedwire9975 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Or, get this, you could change one word in a sentence for no cost of your time as an act of basic kindness and curtesy.

    • @JimDavisMTG
      @JimDavisMTG  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      What are you my DAD!?! GOD YOU DONT UNDERSTAND ME

    • @aleckgardner6845
      @aleckgardner6845 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Hahaha chatter found their way to the TH-cam comments.. you literally do not know the gender of the person playing aganist you so you're incorrect to just use him.. it's not even some "woke" thing its just correct.. you keep fighting the good fight tho, real hero you are bud 🙄

    • @Jordan-dg8tp
      @Jordan-dg8tp 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      You know what's funny? You said "their dad" because you didn't know the gender of the person making the comment - the same thing Jim just asked the person to do instead of assuming. If anything, using "their" is proper grammar because you have an unknown person.
      Also also, you making a comment is so much better for Jim in terms of interaction and promoting the video instead of a simple view. So thank you :)

    • @whyamievendoingthis...
      @whyamievendoingthis... 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      THEIR dad? Friend, you're already using gender neutral pronouns! You did it!