Don't Overplay (ft. Thank You Lord) | Worship Band Workshop
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- In this Don Moen Worship Band Workshop session, Don features his full band demonstrating what NOT to do. If you’re a worship leader or a member of your worship team, remember to keep it simple! Watch this video and share in the laughs as Don and his band have a little bit of fun “overplaying” to Thank You Lord. Want to see more of these videos? Check out our Worship Band Workshop playlist here: bit.ly/1RzOI2Z. New videos posted every week! Subscribe today so you never miss a video: bit.ly/1In0KIP
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The bass player’s overplaying made me believe in God
Kean Ong 😂🤘🏾
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Lolololol
Could you over play more Mr. Bass please?
Best comment ever! Made my day.
everyone: overplaying sounds dope
acoustic guitarist: plays the exact same thing but louder
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I agree ik when I play the guitar every third week at my church’s worship team I try not to over play but I add my own style into it
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I agreee!!!
Keep strumming from intro to last beat of the song.. up and down, acoustic guitar can be messy.. hehe
So the lesson we’ve learned is that the bass player should always overplay, the keys player should sometimes overplay, the guitar player should occasionally overplay, and the drummer should never overplay.
One million likes from me!!!
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Exactly!! 😂😂
Are you crazy? 😂😂😂
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The fact that he asked the bass player “where u gonna go from here” and Jason actually took it somewhere higher was impressive.
It takes serious discipline to hold back when you have this much talent but its like a fine tuned recipe when all the parts work together to glorify God !!!! 😃
A good musician doesn't need to hold back in fact you just mentioned the problem. No one should have to be holding back that's not worship it's bondage. I guess its hard when you haven't played in a band. Everyone's goal is to sound good together. People have different ideas about the Holy Spirit but I have felt myself directed by the Spirit what I should play and it was the perfect amount. Who is going to count the notes and when is it one note over. It's like picking a color to paint a wall it is subjective. Thank you for you reply and God Bless You.
The fact that everyone smiles when they are "overplaying"
Coz they are able to express
Maybe they should start another band, where they are not constrained "by God."
yep
when the bass player is so spicy that you dont care that theyre overplaying 🤣🤣
Fr tho
yes!!!
Worship Leader : Bass player overplay
Bass player : Thank you Lord 🙏
Hahahaha... I feel you...😅😅😅
IT'S SO TRUE.
😂🤣😂🤣
Me every Sunday 😅
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If my team could "overplay" like that, they can do it any time
I need full version of that overplayed keyboard and bass
Rda Chhakchhuak me too!
Lol sounds really good
Yeah with the drums too! Man! These musicians understood when to get out of the way and when to fill it up! I see a false dichotomy in this video.
stay funky brooo 😆
Lol yeah they were actually awesome
Looks like the drummer was waiting for the overplay moment all his life....Lol
haahaha I felt that too xD
@@jheffreymartineau3388 Lol
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As a worship team drummer, YES! We are always waiting for that moment. Haha, I live for the jam sessions in rehearsal... usually I'm the one to start them Lol
0:51 the bass player is so bored hes tuning during the intro
I looooove the Bass overplay . The overplay actually sounds sooooo GOOOD..! TOTALLY.!! I have replayed it over and over.
When overplay comes from someone who plays stunning, the sound is good, but in general that's not what we see inside churches
5:50 - If more worship bassists had turnarounds like this, the world would be a better place
IM trying here
Im a beginner/intermediate bassplayer, whats a turnaround?
@@7-beamieson-983 he meant the overplaying
@@7-beamieson-983 He meant a bass "fill" which is a riff you play outside of the standard notes
Oh that was a mind-blowing run !! He rocked 👏👏👏
Goal: To teach about musical maturity and the pitfalls of overplaying
Result: Hottest worship recording in three decades
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Any musician who listened to this loved the way the "overplaying" sounded lol
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lmaooo
Why not start simple, and build. On the last chorus, the overplaying would be just awesome
I agree
this
We do this in our church and it sounds sick with songs like Waymaker, any Hillsong, and with almost every slow song that we think that can get stronger slowly. I totally agree with you‼️
It's a wonder what the proper application of dynamics can do.
"Start simple, and build" is good advice for any musical style!
These guys are so disciplined they couldn't even play "too busy" without, first of all making it sound good, and second of all, sinking back into solid rhythm playing. All of them had the chops when put on the spot too. They are great musicians.
Yea and in solos some of this would work but everyone else would dial back to make room
The joy they had in “overplaying” actually made it better in my opinion
They need to make a worship album called "Overplayed Worship"
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Swears bro😹
I'd be first in line lol
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Exactly 😂
Don Moen explains why gospel music is so popular.
Right!?
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Ha! exactly.
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He explained why planet shakers is popular.😂
Psalm 98:4 Make a joyful noise unto the LORD, all the earth: make a loud noise, and rejoice, and sing praise.
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Amen
This video could be called
"Put some passion and boldness into your worship vocals"
That's exactly what he speaks against
yup
@@Wistbacka he was complaining about being in the background when he wasn't even singing correctly
Daiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
agreed, the vocals wont be "in the background" if you actually try to sing them WITH the improvised parts. You can't sing soft with the great cluster of sounds that "overplaying" creates. Don't be the singer that barely sings, be the singer that sings WITH the musicians not over them.
that electric guitar *overplay* was gold
Priceless
And very not “overplayed”
THAT WAS DOPE
Is that all you got he said lead keys.guitarist nope
Lmao I’m the guitarist in my worship team and I’m always kinda showing off, I gotta stop doing that 😂
That bass player "overplaying" is so tasteful, I could listen to it all day long. In his case more is more.
Yeah
individually the over playing is dope,but eveyone overplaying is noisy and that's the point of the lesson
No actually you guys just proved his point. The attention would be on the person overplaying and not God.
@@dannellim11 that wasn't Don's point in this video.
@@Jason56B yes it is. He mentioned that during the bass player's solo, it became his time not the Lord's time and that is not as intended.
Timmy the drummer played his heart out. See the love in his heart for The Lord 💚
Dang, Jason’s ‘overplayed’ bass part sounded amazing!! Funky worship…I love it!!
He's an amazing bassist and that's the point here. His playing changes the feel of the song, putting the focus on himself.
“Don’t overplay” *Everyone plays* “.... that was actually really good.”
Jason Harris That’s how math works
Common core👌🏻
He never said its not a good thing. But thats not the point in gospel music as the music will overshadow the main purpose that is worship and the congregation will get caught up in the music and this is distract them and they wont connect to god as they naturally would. I hope you understood what im trying to say cuz its a bit complicated for me to explain
@@nigeldsouza6088 Spectacular musicianship absolutely is part of Gospel music.... but this isn't Gospel.
@@nigeldsouza6088 Believers are to pray without ceasing. All day, every day, we're to acknowledge God. But, when we all congregate in the Sanctuary... we're to get turnt up for Jesus! Give it all you've got, in spirit and in truth! No matter who's looking. We'll tone it down when The Word comes forth. Praise and Worship is supposed to be overly. It makes it easier for the preacher to give the sermon.
"Jason, you're a first time bass player"
Jason steps in to create a grooving bass line that outlines the chords while interacting with the melody.
Yes, we all sound like Jason as soon as we pick up a bass.
Oh I wish it was that simple for a budding bass player. Most who don't have experience with some other instrument have to work harder to play the root notes in time.
Well said!
As a fellow bassist and another 'Jason' I agree with this comment. Lol
He's black, so thats believable
This is so true 😂😂
That bass has one of the best paint jobs I’ve ever seen, and the artist playing it is plenty worthy of it.
The bass player is so good that he sucks at failing... even as he tried to overplay, he still sounded cool and solid as hell!
😊 I came here over and over again just to listen to the overplayed version .... anyone else too ?
colours 🙋🏾♂️
Me too
Me too🤣
The overplayed made a whole lot of sense, bassist and every other one God bless you all
Yup
The bass player’s overplay was actually really good for the structure of the song
Caleb Morvan yah
The purpose of the song it subtlety. So no, it ruins the song.
Yeah when he gets into that groove at about 5:45 I'd say he was doing perfect. Even hit the fill at a point meant to bring energy to the song. As long as he wasn't doing that every other measure, he'd be pretty perfect.
BrianT175 the verse had keyboard 2 guitars and drums it definitely should have bass
Yeah it works for us and you
But its don moen, so no
I'm that guy who loves seeing drummers smile when playing they make the song much more nice.
The bass player 'overplay' made me believe in Jesus😍
everytime... everytime... for real
When everyone "overplayed", the energy in the room quadrupled. That's the kind of energy we NEED in church. Yeah, maybe the drummer went off the deep end on the kick, and maybe the keys and guitar stepped on each other's toes a couple times, but that was still a big improvement. Just my opinion.. but it's an opinion I hold pretty strongly. Stop being timid! We have great instrumentalists in church; play out and praise Him!
I'm not a Christian but surely the idea is moderation and harmony in this life? Such pleasures must be reserved for I suppose an afterlife, isn't the idea to attone for the sins of Adam and Eve and be grateful?
@@iixwh3l4nxii And here we see the origin of the idea that jazz (jazz!) is "the Devil's music."
@@baronvonsatan could be? I'm not to say. But I do appreciate the idea of living a moderate life, with music too.
@@iixwh3l4nxii "Everything in moderation, including moderation" --Oscar Wilde
@@iixwh3l4nxii No, at least for evangelicals and other non-Catholics, that is not the idea. Christ atoned for the sins of Adam and Eve, Christians are free from all that. Which makes this philosophy make even less sense.
Why is nobody talking about how smooth those keys were when "overplayed"?!
I played in a P&W band once where the guitar, wasn't really a part of it. I experimented once by turning myself down at the instrument... zero signal to the board... and I was told how great I sounded. Talk about a kick to the head. Of course the keys dominated, and the vocals of the worship leader playing them was louder than the other singers.
It's not like he was overplaying, his distinctive feel for the keys just made the music so much livelier. He jazzed it really well in my opinion
Piano: 1:05
Guitar: 1:44
Drums: 3:18
Bass: 5:03
Guitar 2: 6:35
Altogether: 7:00
Thank you, good sir
Beautiful
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7 years later and I’m here smiling 😌🤲🏼 .. Thank you for yielding to the Lord sir, you’re a blessing✨
Yeah, it seems this video is making a comeback, but I'm drawing different conclusions than the first time I watched.
These guys were literally too good of musicians for this demonstration.
Swears😂😂
They are perfect for it because of what "could do". The emphasis is what on brings more attention to worship rather than the individual.
@@jeremianderson4861 the irony is that exact type of overplaying is what makes gospel so powerful for people. It’s people playing their heart out, all of their skill, for god.
I played in a band that was similar to this for the better part of a decade, and while it wasn’t a problem for a long while because I wasn’t good enough, it was very tiresome in time due to how restrictive it felt. I wasn’t allowed to enjoy my music that was for god, which in my opinion kind of defeats the purpose. It felt disingenuous to me.
Not all bands can overplay, and for the average church the principle of avoiding overplaying is great because the skill level simply isn’t there, but for these guys it makes no sense at all as to why they would limit themselves to playing less fun music, because both gospel and contemporary Christian music are worship.
@@solkvist8668 I totally get you in that. I've personally been in several types of bands (concert, orchestra, jazz, woodwind choir and marching band) including a marching in which our Clarinet section alone is bigger than the church choir/band combined.
With that being said, there is a difference between overplaying and improvising. Improvisation is unwritten music that is played that fits within the style that is being played while keeping balance of being an accompaniment.
Overplaying is also unwritten but it is played without being mindful of keeping balance as an accompaniment.
@@jeremianderson4861 what’s funny is that we’re SUPPOSED to bring our best to God during worship. They have that talent because God gave it to them. The Bible says to Praise Him on the Stringed instruments. It doesn’t say “keep it simple” soooo I think if you’ve got God-given ability then use it
Bass player overplayed was great 😁
I come back for just that kick😂
That ain't no lie
I found me a free lesson in that!
You have been blessed with gifted musicians. I use gifted to mean two ways; First, they are all extremely talented musicians who have mastered their instruments. Second, they have been given a great gift of discernment and sensitivity of God's Holy Spirit, playing not to glorify themselves, or even the team, rather, to glorify God
Excellent reply. Bless you
I like how the first half of the song he's just like "dang it actually sounds good and tasteful" bc those guys are good enough musicians to naturally resist going too hard into overplaying they know how to make it sophisticated still
Lol right!
When they all overplayed they sounded actually lit like a jam session
Yup. Was amazing 🔥
The bass player Jason should overplay for this song because it was so good even a non believer would stop in their tracks to listen.
They are all a set of skillful musicians who have mastered the act of being disciplined!
Disciplined, yes - like in "Bad boy!!" and getting your hand slapped for playing. Suppressed, demoralized - people pleasers rather than God pleasers.... sad when God himself will ask them why it was ok to rock out in their other bands at the bar, but not for him in Church. "But Lord, Don said..."
being disciplined enough to not piss off the MD. the keys player was just soul in a bottle, the bass player was feel materialized, and the guitar player has a great ear for filling space. and you know what pisses me off? they're all musicians but not a band. Yes its important to know how to be disciplined, but they all lack communication and just go directly on the script. this is NOT art, its an execution of a brief
Controlled not discipline
This band Is a well oiled machine
That bass player should be exempted man. The groove was just neat
you bass as well? hahaha
Agree
The groove was good. The boost to solo volume... let it overtake the song... had there been no solo boost.
😂 😂 Felt like taking my bass and overplay with the bassist am in love with this
Like don moen said it's not about you it's about God brother if you play like that in a crowd a lot of people will be focusing more kn you not in the presence of the Lord
When everyone overplays you get that good ole Pentecostal praise🤣🤣
Amen
Amen indeed
One very important thing to take note here is that this worship team has been playing together for ages! Even when they overplay, they overplay in a way that still fits one another; this comes down to familiarity, habit and trust built in an experienced team. But take this to a new worship team or a new comer who overplays without any context, that is when things get messy and too much.
no experienced musicians with strong music theory and orchestration can play with any one of equal caliber and it would sound like they been playing for years together.
@@nguquaxanguyen5224 if you're intending to refer "no experienced musician" then yes I agree with you. If you're referring "no, experienced musicians can actually play like this", I'll agree as well, but not completely. While it's true that experienced musicians can complement one another in spontaneous scenarios, it wouldn't happen all the time, especially when the main focus is God, not man. Don Moen himself states in the video that the musicians are all "dialing in for what works for Don Moen (that being Don Moen's style of worship music)". But of course, if it's a performance or concert, definitely musicians can come together with no context and still blow the crowd away. Key thing about this is "it's all about God, not you".
I value your opinion nonetheless and thank you for sharing!
@@justinng4970 if the main focus is God what does familiarity have anything to do with it? Btw I meant "no, experience..."
@@nguquaxanguyen5224 Familiarity is important because the main point of the worship band is to direct the congregation in reverence to God through music. If the band is not familiar with the setting of worship in that particular church, it'll become a contest of technicality. Sometimes, a single chord held by the synth for a minute does much more than anything else. All the other musicians could add many notes into that single chord to make it sound more extravagant, but they would understand (as a band) the fine line between a "concert" and "worship".
And, because God is the main focus, a musicians' skills is not the priority. Anyone with a willing heart is more important than anyone wielding the skills. This might sound contradictory but I have experienced first hand a worship leader who can't even hold a note nor sing in the right key, but the congregation was in the spirit of worship nonetheless.
@@justinng4970 Listening and having the reflex and discipline to respond appropriately is a fundamental musicianship skill. In a professional setting, not being alert to what other musicians and most importantly vocalists are doing is a good way to get fired. I give you example, I was hired for a church service as a sub. One of the musician (synth player) plays a minor 9 chord, which by itself is very beautiful chord, the problem is the singer was singing the minor 3 in the chord, which is only half step away from that, causing her to start to sing flat without knowing why. The pianist and I immediately identified the problem and helped that player correct course. The mutual and almost immediate understanding between me and that pianist player didn't come from familiarity. We met that morning. It came from our musicianship. Alot of people have the wrong impression that musicianship skill is ability to play lots of notes, exotic chords, etc. Not true. These guys in the video are professional musicians so they listen to each other down to the individual note, which subdivision of the beat each player and vocalist are emphasizing in order to either avoid or complement rather than clash. I bet they were doing that the first time they played with each other
How much I wish our bass player overplays like this.
Overplaying is one thing. These cats were just playing what they felt and doing so tastefully.
they're good musicians. even when they're trying to overplay they can't do so in an untasteful way. except maybe the drummer 😂
thats right
But discipline is equally important
This video should really be entitled "Don Moen accidentally teaches his band how to play like Israel and New Breed, and it actually sounds good!" These guys are having such a great time! And around 07:20 they are not really overplaying, they're actually listening out for each other!
6:40 - 7:40 is when everything gets really good
there needs to be a full overplaying version because this is amazing
Don Moen: Is that all you’ve got?
Guitarist: *Boii you know nothing
*Serious mode activate
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😆😆😆 so funny huh
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It's not about you!
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Except for the fact that when they "overplayed", it felt like the music had a soul, and was truly worshipful. When played "proper", it sounds stifled and corporate, like it was taken straight off the production line of a soulless machine. There's absolutely something to be said for knowing your limits, and fitting together as a coherent group, and yeah, not playing complicated parts for the sake of showing off, but stopping your musicians from "playing skillfully, with a shout of joy" (Psalm 33:3), and forcing them to confine to simple, brutally accessible, and overused parts is why modern Christian pop is so lifeless and soulless. As people have pointed out, that was the time that the musicians looked alive, looked like they loved playing. The energy in room quadrupled.
Thank you so much, couldn’t have said it better myself.
THANK you, yes
I agree. He was presenting a false dichotomy. Why not both good balance and good improv?
Maybe the danger of overplaying is more relevant when you're dealing with the average worship band, not one stacked with professionals like this. The problems he discusses would be more apparent if these were 19 year olds playing to show off.
This is a testament to the caliber of musicians he has playing with him. They have enough experience to make it musical, even when playing it "wrong." The average church band wouldn't be able to pull that off as well.
The drummer is just having fun
That bass player though!!! 😮 God given talent!! 😍👏🏽🙌🏽
That guitar player has incredible tone
Yeah its awesome.
The song played the "proper" way makes me feel about as much as a metronome. Every time a band member started "overplaying" I smiled involuntarily (until they got four or five bars in and started going crazy), because there's real feeling in it. Yes, everyone doing it at the same time is too much, but no-one doing it feels like... nothing. I feel like there's got to be some middle ground between the band full of soloists and the "Don Moen way"
Not only you.. THEY started smiling...
Oh, definitely there is a middle ground. Fills don't have to extend the length of a verse. Each verse of a song can feature one player given room to stretch out a little. Drummers ramping up the intensity near the end of a song has been a thing forever.
But I'm having a real hard time with "no bass guitar in the verse." Really? None? Not even doing something as boring as root notes?
It's like the Don Moen Way is to remove all the good things about African-American influence on Western music. No improvising. No syncopation. No groove.
@@baronvonsatan "But I'm having a real hard time with "no bass guitar in the verse." Really? None? Not even doing something as boring as root notes?" Maybe once in a while that can work. Gives you more dynamic range to work with, somewhere to go as the song builds.
you could always start slow and build up
The problem is that in his examples, one person overplays and it seems like a "solo spot". When *everyone* in the band overplays at the same time, it becomes chaos and a distraction to the music (and worshipping God). That's the point Don's trying to make. Building up and coordinating musicality would be encouraged! It's just a lesson in restraint and intent, as others have said.
Don't die without faith in Jesus!Father God loves you! that's why he gave Jesus which is his Son for us/you!
If bands overplayed like this during worship, more people would go to church. Not over playing felt like I was in a nursing home.
So the people would go to church because of The music not because of God?
And this is exactly why the church is filled with the kind of superficial, self deceived christian that Christ refers to when he says " Depart from me. I never knew you." Or when the prophet stated "This people honour me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me." Frankly, if you want to be entertained then avoid church and grab a gig. Your mindset with regard to the reverence of a omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent creator God is deeply worrying.
We are technically demigods so who we are to judge god, we technically are able to grasp a small amount of his power and evolve from it. That being said, if an omnipotent god can't rock on i ain't going to church. He made us make rock, so why can't he.
@@hulaanmo97 exactly!
@@hulaanmo97 it’s not about why they’re there it’s about the opportunity to build the connection to god that will make them want to stay
All I got to say is y’all looked like y’all were having a lot more fun when y’all we’re grooving. Jamming like that is a blessing, that’s a hard thing to do well, I don’t see anything wrong with it?!?
There's absolutely nothing wrong with a jam session. One of the blessings of playing any musical instrument is that you will eventually get to a level where you can go off script and express your own musical style. As worship leaders, though, it's all about leading people deeper into the presence of God. It's the job of the band to take the focus off of themselves and direct all the focus to God. Sometimes, less is more.
@@DonMoenTV Don, have you seen Adam Neely's video regarding Christian contemporary music, and his approximation of such "overplaying" as akin to Bibically making a joyful noise? I saw joy in the performance of "what not to do", and as a former praise band director of 3 years AND someone who runs an analog "secular" studio, I find that this stifling of energy is precisely what makes many fear a relationship with our God. Any insecurity a member of the congregation feels in the presence of skillful performance should be addressed with encouragement of the crowd, not discouragement of the joyous musician. It's long past time to pray about this, friend. God bless.
@DonMoenTV While I completely agree with serving the song as well as making sure the mindset that it is not all about the musician, I offer a different perspective: the notes that I play are my most pure form of praise and glorification to God. The other Cody up there put it perfectly referring to the "joyful noise," which as the leader of a worship team are the exact words I tell the rest of the band every Sunday between praying and starting the service. You write beautiful melodies (Arise is one of my favorites), and as long as that is still present and defined, I believe that embellishing with other musical elements is beneficial, as the excitement of the worship team is infectious and engaging to the congregation.
@@codyknapp3003 and I concur with this other Cody!
@@codyknapp3003 Hey there :) It is always good to give our best praise to God, and I feel that being in a worship team would mean that we would have present our best praise to God more as a team than as an individual. I think we would have to decide on what is our best praise and our best music as a team. More than that, I also feel that more than just music, offering our best praise also means being able to lead the congregation better as a team. Meaning, if we as a team can be more accommodating for the congregation to sing their praises to God, then we are offering our worship in that way as well. Our discipline to hold back our skills whenever necessary is can also be an act of praise. Just my 2 cents, God bless and have a good day :)
I bought all the frets, I'm gonna use all the frets
Omg😂😂😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
Thats the midset i like!
I love how he said “is that all you got?” To a former rocker star 😂
This was a great way of showing how talented his team is and how absolutely disciplined they are too! Professionals!
Intention: to caution against over playing.
Reality: made one of the best worship patches..
Amen😂
Facts 💯
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Amen 🙏 💯
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It actually sounded better when everyone overplayed. I think the issue should be at what point should one overplay
agree
Yeah I agree too
I know I’m kinda late here but yeah it’s all about timing
Disagree; it was a mess when they overplayed. You support the singer and the song in this kind of music.
Listeners should listen to God's word (lyrics)...this is not the place to perform, that's what Doen Moen meant
Psalm 150:3-5:
“3Praise him with trumpet sound;
praise him with lute and harp!
4Praise him with tambourine and dance;
praise him with strings and pipe!
5Praise him with sounding cymbals;
praise him with loud clashing cymbals!”
We should be glorifying God with music played passionately. Music made for dancing. Clashing Cymbals! I think the music you call “Overplaying” is the joyful passionate, loud music we should be praising God with.
also psalm 33 1-3 is helpful:
1 Sing joyfully to the Lord, you righteous;
it is fitting for the upright to praise him.
2 Praise the Lord with the harp;
make music to him on the ten-stringed lyre.
3 Sing to him a new song;
play skillfully, and shout for joy.
6:36 the sound of gibson❤️
When all the instruments overplayed it felt like the instruments were worshipping lol
I feel like about half way through playing he began to disagree with his own point
Da Pumaface RIGHT
Yup
Definitely sensed some confliction, it was in his smile....lmao he liked it
Da Pumaface Hahaha
He never said its not a good thing. But thats not the point in gospel music as the music will overshadow the main purpose that is worship and the congregation will get caught up in the music and this is distract them and they wont connect to god as they naturally would. I hope you understood what im trying to say cuz its a bit complicated for me to explain
I've been playing drums in my worship music team going on around 6 are 7 year's now. And Both My Preacher's Love it whenever i over play!! I used to apologize, about it every single time!! (But not only does my Preacher's Enjoy it! So does Everyone else in are Church's Congregation!!) And that's basically how everyone plays in are Worship Music Team... ((Because we are all filled up,by The Holly Spirit!! Christian ✝️ ✝️ ✝️ !!!))
They’re not over-playing, they’re playing on top of your vocals.
...boring vocals at that
No overplaying implies playing too complex of a part for the composition, to where it doesn’t fit.
@@BronsonTennis no offense to this don guy but he seems LAME and puts himself above the band. i guess he wants his band sounding boring to make it more godly
@@frome5000 Remember what he said that you have to play according to the artist or the vocals, i play in a worship team and its true. An musician can adjust but the vocalist? not so much. Overplaying means playing your instrument irrelevantly too much that it gives the player more praise. Remember that worship is for God and nothing else. Yes you have to give your best but know the limits
@@johntimothypascual854 tim i dont believe in god so i dont care
My favorite worship experience was a Rich Mullens concert in 1994 where EVERYONE overplayed and we all were honest and sang loud and played loud and worshiped God. We didn't care if anyone was too loud.
Lol!!! When he said “it’s your first time playing on stage and you want to play EVERY LICK YOU EVER LEARNED IN ONE SONG” that was me!!! 💯 😂😂😂
Lol
Yeahhh. Hahhaha
😂😂😂bless
hahaha God bless u bro you people u made my day smart I was stressed but u made it for me thx
Me every Sunday, never gonna leave my first love lol 😂
Amazing! So cool. The drummer enjoyed it.... Bass guitar is always a treat to hear!
7:05 the moment it becomes something with soul
Dang... that bassist definitely added a whole new feel to the song when it was his time to overplay. My head was moving to it but yeah, you have compliment each other in the band.
but if you guys play and complinent to each other and how they play It can realy benefit worship. It says play out and sing for the Lord. If you know what Im trying to say
I think it's "complement" each other lol. Don compliments them for their playing but they all complement each other musically. 😉
The problem (or should I say good thing?) is that these musicians are so talented, skillful, good and disciplined that the "overplay" they demonstrated is not the real "overplay" we so often see or hear. They were still showing restraint during the overplay. That's the reason some of you say you like it.
Yep, that's the hard thing about using tasteful musicians as the example. Their overplaying was actually pretty great. I know what Don is talking about, the people who solo over every phrase and don't play to the song. If anything, in general, most musicians I've played with tend to just play ALL THE TIME with no dynamics in worship. It takes a while to develop taste and technique. I'm not going to go as far as saying to sit someone out of a band like he recommends, but it does take time to develop a band that worships and plays well together. It's definitely not easy.
You're right
The talent and the discipline they showcase in the video is just so good. So far away from the overplaying by I myself. Haha. Great video tho.
Sure, but then they're UNDERPLAYING in the "correct version".
Jedediyah Aaron Yisrael Omg. the type of overplay happening in some churches is way more than this example but point taken.
I remember my late Dad could alway kneel down and lift hands in our living room as he listened to Dons songs
I had watched this in 2016 and almst 6 years later, am part of the band that is playing it over the weekend...this is beautiful! God bless you Don!
Oh! That guitar tone is great!!!
Aksel Belibagli man that guitar player is insane!!! Loved his phrasing!!
Aksel Belibagli indeed
Yeah love his tone!!
It's beautiful
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The bass is straight FIRE!!
Neftali aw thanks! God bless 🙏🏾
Even as they overplay, they still hit the right notes and come up with cool lines... Thank you for this material! Very helpful!!!
I just keep coming back here
The bass guitar is killing it! God Bless
I think everyone in this comment section is missing the point of this video, he’s not saying don’t over play and add in extra niceties, he’s just explaining that if you have an entire band doing the extras all at the same time it makes the song messy, he’s not writing it off, he’s just stating that you need to find the right moments for these extras!
its fully illustrated when they all overplay together. they're playing on top of each other and it sounds like a mess. theres room for more than what the song calls for, but only if everyone works together and gives each other space.
I agree..
I agree with you
I marked him say "overplay all the time" hence you can overplay but not over do it.
your got it right
The combo when they all overplayed was 🔥🔥🔥
That bass tho sheeesshh 🔥🔥🔥
My wife and I started going to a church and the worship there was really good excellent vocals and very competent musicians. Being a piano player myself with many years experience I was soon playing with them. The team talked a lot about being careful not to be a show off and to be humble in your playing. The team being very talented was actually very young. My playing was a little more free that they're I play and allow the Holy Spirit to lead me as often as I can., So, I played my way and before long I was getting a lot of compliments from the congregation and then it was as if when they saw that I didn't cause a problem they began to venture out remember I said they were very talented. A couple of months latter the pastor came to me and the worship leader and he actually said. "Thank God He Sent Robby here because you have all come out of your shell and are sounding a lot more full and worshipful. Every situation is different but there is a lot of false humility our there and legalistic attitudes out there. Often in the New Testament especially they are warning about falling back into that legalsitic atmosphere. Personally l say let the Spirit of God lead the way and deal with specific problems as they arise. Overly strict rules for the team stifle creativity and talent. Read the comments below most people liked that overplaying and I would love to hear what Don has to say about that. Don cut those guys lose you might actually start enjoying yourself.l God Bless You and Be not weary in doing good
I appreciate the wisdom and fairness in this comment. I've been a minister of music for a long time and this type of wisdom comes from the LORD alone brother. Thank you.
I have a similar experience as you, where the congregation made direct compliments. I also rearranged one of their songs which received a lot of compliments from the congregation. Months later, I was rudely and abruptly “fired” from this church and I still can’t bring myself to touching any CCM anymore. Enough with the bad advice. It really isn’t about making it about someone. It was never about me. I just wanted to create something better for God.
@@StevoE7 Steven I wish I had seen your comment sooner. I started a second band at a church I was attending and after playing once the people started to say things like, "we would rather hear them and stuff like that. The worship leader for the main church team called a meeting and said my team "The Old Man Band" wouldn't play ever again and that if he could he would let us play in the main group sometimes and he came right out and said he didn't want people comparing us. This was a very young leader and he dealt with what he saw as a problem the best he could. I don't think it was the best choice for the church. I hope you weren't discouraged and especially hope your didn't stop leading worship. If you are like me leading worship is the joy of your heart. You may have to go to a different church but let The Lord be your guide and the joy of your heart. I will be praying for you and may God grant you the desires of your heart. Be not weary in doing the good and proper thing.
@@MrVbobby thanks for sharing. I’m out completely. Been turned off near completely. This was the last of many horrible experiences involving jealousy in the creative arts. I don’t consider myself to be a great musician by any stretch of the imagination. In fact, I don’t perform in public both in the secular and spiritual spheres anymore...and I have a bachelors degree in music. I have left the church entirely for a myriad of reasons both within and outside the creative arts and that’s just fine as it is.
@@StevoE7 I wish you well in all that you do. I am not a great musician either but I’ve always felt led of the spirit in my playing in turn I’ve always been told by people that my playing helps them to worship. I have been involved in worship for 35 years pastored a Calvary Chapel in Santa Ynez California for 6 years I’ve ran into that jealousy thing a lot and no how much it can hurt. I am sorry to hear that you are not in the church but I still feel a bind with you. Jesus will never leave you or forsake you my brother. God Bless You
I prefer this overplay bass and piano versions.
Because they fill the song well, and that organ wasn't too busy to be quite honest.
I think Everyone jus has different taste of music . But i prefer yeah overplay.
If you wanna hear real gospel go to pretty simple music or hear and play and music breakthrough . That’s where you learn to “overplay”
Absolutely
@@wesleydavis9160 Amen lol that's where you see real nasty chords!!!
Thank you lord for those heavenly chops
This is teamwork at its best. You can see how much they feel each other. Good blessed, humble people.
Love Le Blanc
Overplayed still sounding disciplined...oh lord I really want to be this disciplined
Still waiting on that overplaying album! Straight fire!!
that little bit overplay from the pianist has sold me to him, he is a great piano player, wud love to see more of his playing.
My band leader always tells us to just have fun with it
I forgot that verse where David played fearfully and hesitantly before the lord?
Mind giving some verses to support this?
I kinda feel like there's a middleground that's being unexplored here, and while sure you don't wanna be shredding the whole time, I feel like some level of expression is worshipful.
Perhaps less isn't more. More is more. Less is less.
Taste is key.
Those are refined musicians, no wonder their "overplaying" is definitely tasty
Come on! Preach it!!
SOMETIMES less is more. Sometimes less is, well, just less, just as sometimes more is too much.
@@willbarnz6960
I think we're in agreement here.
Yeah heres the think I'd sing thank you like this if I was saying thank you to my wife for getting me a birthday present...but if I was singing thank you to the lord of all, the king of kings, father, the highest above...then I'd be SHOUTING FROM THE ROOFTOPS I'd be thanking him with so much passion that my singing and playing would welcome a spirit of thankfulness that hits you and changes your heart because of the anointing but too bad nowadays Christian music limits the annointing...its the same spirit back in the day where people said guitars are evil and of the devil...now it's just if its distorted and play over 60 bpm it's of the devil. It's the same religious spirit limiting the annointing just in a slightly more relaxed fashion. Its gotta stop, christian music aka worship aka WARFARE MUSIC needs to step up finally.
Hi sir... I really think you should record the overplayed version of this song. 😁
It's obviously going to sound too busy if EVERYONE is getting complex at the same time, but that doesn't mean the WHOLE song needs to be that basic and boring. We're supposed to express our joy and give our best in the service of the Lord.
I love this bassist ☺️😊😊☺️