That was pure hypocrisy, I knew the moment I saw it. "We had it rough" Doing what? Counting money and deleting feedback? Yeah that sure gotta put strain on your poor fingers.
They deserve all the hate in the world. They ignored the community since the beginning. Every feedback, every survey, they just don't care, all they care is making money, no matter how bad the player experience is. Genshin will never change and I hope more and people realize that it's not worth wasting your time on genshit, especially since nothing is improving and when there are so many other games that are much much better and the devs have different priorities, player experience 1st and gatcha 2nd. Wuthering Waves keep it up, you're the best.
You dont need to play you know....people have diffrent opinion i believe Natlan Was peak genshin and is far better then Star Rail whos Power Creep is insane. Same with mavuika all hated on her but im Sure EVERYONE still got her.
Your comment is a gold mine for genshin haters. With that being said they do need to increase resin regeneration and fix the artifact system as well, you can spend 3 months straight leveling up artifacts that have crit% rate / crit DMG ratio yet it’ll level up def% or some other irrelevant stat the entire 4 times.
@@Daraen1992 I agree I don’t play star rail so I can’t judge but to me natlan had me engaged in the exploration and I love its OST’s I haven’t enjoyed exploring like that since liyue/mondstat days. I honestly thought I was going to hate it, because before I started all I saw was fake criticism and hate from people who haven’t even started natlan yet 💀.
@@Not_obligated2care if you just get good artefact with 6 runs everyone would stop playing bevause thats rndgame in basically every gatcha game the Grind never stops. I would love to habe more resin too but i have no Problem to het my chars leveled up AND Farm good atrefact maybe the others havent a good resin efficency
Hoyo released the biggest scam in this patch, with locking rewards and new limited units behind different phases, and yet hoyoshills are still celebrating their revenue. Truly, the worst community in gacha gaming, lol.
@@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 I mean, Mavuika is an archon, and Citlali is her BiS, as well as one of the best characters in the game, very popular on her own, too. Of course people want both of them.
It's likely the people celebrating the revenue are F2P. It's the ideal situation for them. If they are in love with the game, enjoying it for free, and it's doing well financially, it's reasonable they'd be the most ferocious in defending it. People that actually make up the revenue are more likely to be disappointed with what they get out of it.
@@alreadyd1d It's a massive shame that Mavuika, and the Natlan Archon Quest, is horribly-written with all the contrived conveniences for her, as well as how completely out of place she is (everything in Natlan is completely out of place). She's just TERRIBLE in writing, design, and tone. Citlali, I don't know much on her.
even if u 100% the map its barely able for a 1 or even 10 pull per region. they're so stingy with the primogems from chests coupled with the painstaking exploration
Bro I stop doing exploration in GI, the experience is fckin awful and the reward is horrendous especially after playing Wuwa, so much more fun and smoother while giving more reward, you can easily open enough chest in an area in a few minutes to get one pull, GI gives measly 2 primo on common chest and 5 on normal chest and they are so far apart/behind annoying puzzle that take forever. It might took hours to get a few pull if you are lucky
The island and the underwater region before Natlan was very well implemented - good enough dialogues, many cutscenes, minimal blackscreen time, beautiful environment, a lot (I mean x3) rewards from almost every chest, very easy to navigate and 100% clear, in-region taxi. It was the best and after it - the worst - the unskippable endless dialogues in a time-limited region that is still small, but quite frustrating to explore. Dialogues can randomly start at any point without warning - WHY?? In the latest patch they added more unskippable randomly starting during exploration quests. This was too much for me
@@zeromailssIf any Genhin players thought your lying here’s my 3 month F2P account looks like. I started on the Jiyan rerun patch so I have Jiyan, Camellya and her weapon, Yinlin and her weapon, Carlotta and her weapon, Zhezhi and finally Jinshi and her weapon. I’m pretty lucky losing only 2 50/50 but I’m only able to pull this much because Kuro just gave out that many pull. If any people think I’m lying I can post my UID here.
@@Taz-111 pretty much got the same as you and the only time losing a 50 50 was Roccia but I still managed to get her and her weapon. From 20k astrite down to 3k but slowly recovering from doing events and dailies Probably wouldn't get Phoebe and Brant I'll just farm more for Zani and Cartethyia
Overflow is litteraly just a cap increase. It needs a regen rate buff instead. There's like a 440 overflow waveplate cap. Add that to 240 and you get 680 waveplate cap. It's much bigger but what's better is the 5 min regen instead of 8.
@@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 does wuwa get 10 pulls every patch? just asking kinda new to game And it has 480 overflow cap i think regenerating every 12 mins
@@AmethystArctik actually nah. It gets some for weapon, some for character, and some for standard. So it's more then 10 if you add them together i think.
@@AmethystArctik Yes but not directly. You got 5 limited + 5 standard from login, and then another 7 each from shop, so In total you get 12 character pulls, 7 weapon pulls and 12 standard pulls per patch from those two. Compared to HSR you get 10 limited from login + ~7.5 limited and standard pulls from shop resets. So in total you get about 2 more limited pulls but 7 are restricted to weapon banner, with lower pity and guarantee on weapon banner those are worth slightly more though. It also means you get a standard 5star weapon of your choice every 3-4 patches.
Honestly I can forgive this game many things - because of good memories of the past - but there is one thing I find disgusting: they made exploration boring and annoying. And if you want better experience be ready to pull new characters Very disappointing 😔
Even with new character, your are locked to them then, most people have favorite character and their best team usually suck at exploration and even with the new character, the exploration is worst than Wuwa by a miles
even with all new characters it is still boring. I was enjoying climbing mountains in Monstadt more than wastelands of Natlan with Xilonen, Mavuika and Mualani
I mean... Personally, *I* really enjoyed exploration in Natlan (completed it over 90%), and I don't have any Natlan characters, just Wanderer, and him and the saurians are *more* than enough, even though they wanted to sell the Natlan characters... When it comes to exploring, I just enjoy the puzzles and mechanics and it's *very* rare that I find something annoying in that regard, usually just long, drawn out World Quests, hence why Inazuma and the forest in Sumeru likely had the lowest exploration in my map for a while... My point is, if you truly like exploration, you'll simply enjoy exploration, OFC, you'd prefer ways to make it easier overall, but if you really *do* like exploring in general, you shouldn't let that hold you back from having fun
Each region feels as connected to me as the (Non-Avengers) Marvel movies. Where its just small things that hint at a connection like Tony flipping through his dad's notes and seeing mentions of Captain America. In Genshin's case it would be like if Tony never interacted with Cap beyond said notes and just repeatedly heard mentions of what he did. IDK if that makes sense
What really sucks is that as a BOTW player, who played Genshin during the pandemic due to its similarities, is that I stopped playing it because they took all the things that BOTW has and did not improve on it. Genshin's only saving grace was its lore and overworld but then it got downgraded as time goes by. WuWa on the other hand reminds me of Nier:Automata and how they took inspiration from it and did not copy it like Genshin did with BOTW. The Kuro Devs always improve on their game from their own experience and listening to the player base until they got their own identity. What also sucks is that BOTW also has a parry but Genshin doesn't and only then it was from an event or limited from the overworld.
To add on the "lore" issue. Story, lore and writing are different sides. Not only do they give a very thin slice of lore 3-4 times per year - like a few names, a 2 word description and the party they are a part of, they aren't even complete. And the cherry on top, they are limited time events when we beg for 4 years to be able to replay them. Genshin doesn't know if it should be a game or just an anime. After a year, all you get from wishes are worthless c7 copies when your cutie trashy Amber you still love so much is only c1 (half the reason why chests feel so unrewarding). Writing and dialogue are bad and drawn out. The Mavuika quest was about preparing an important event, and you go with her to micromanage every party "is everything ready?" "good" in order to "build anticipation". And to not forget Paimon, they had a good joke once at the beginning with her and since then they remind us how funny they are and how important Paimon is.
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Kuro devs are NieR fans from what I know. And what im sure of is NieR is truly PEAK!!!
They literally didn’t do this shit a year ago. Furina has 100% uptime when walking on water. You can do it as long as you want in any region. The Natlan characters’ exploration mechanics being limited to Natlan is very stupid
Things that would have made Genshin better: 1- Skip button(At least for side quests...) 2- Not waiting 800+ days for a rerun character/weapon (PrimordialJadeCutter, Eula, Shenhe, Ganyu, kokomi) 3- Giving 5* to characters that aren't in the main story, weak with no battle experience or random filler characters(Sigewine, Nilou, klee, chiori, emile, mizuki, qiqi) And 4* that should have been a 5* : ⚪The governor of Liyue "Ningguang" ⚪Fatui with a rough past and trained by arlechinno "Lynette" ⚪A general of the Watatsumi Army "Gorou" ⚪The captain of the crux "Beido" ⚪One of the 5 heroes of natlan "Ororon" 4- Improving QoL movement in the over world for all characters and revisiting extremely powercreped characters 5- Instead of random NPC, make events with characters/friends that we know. 6- Resin storage and unlock material domain dates. (7 days a week not the Tuesday, Saturday, Sunday BS) 7- Add another Endgame where we can use our built characters instead of adding barbie balatro mickey fun house content. 8- If hoyo didn't put our feedback into a shredder.
I would personally add removing the chronicled wish banner in favor of multiple banner runs. (or at least changing how the banner works) The chronicled wish banner is such a scam its like a way of the devs saying "oh we gave them a rerun though!!!" without actually giving them a rerun by using that scam banner. No pity carry over to the character event banners, still has a 50/50, and has STANDARD CHARACTERS ON IT.
honestly ningguang actually was supposed to be a 5* but since it was still early in the game you only had noelle as a 4* geo so they downgraded ningguang 💀
I still play Genshin, but it honestly feels like a chore now. I just do dailies, claim primos, maybe do some event mini games then poof. I really don't understand the hoyoshills sometimes, they're somehow blinded by the fact that the game is in the bad state now. I really love the game but it's becoming more and more disappointing. I was hoping 5.4 could have some good quality of life updates but we got Aether harem in a hot spring instead. Devs probably realized how childish Natlan's power of friendship is so they made a plan B for the gooners lol. I still believe Genshin will improve tho hopefully before 6.x comes.
@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 I still got some areas to explore but even exploration in Genshin feels like a chore for me. Some areas are locked behind quests, the stamina consumption, and climbing sucks. I even resorted to getting Natlan characters just to make my exploration experience good. Even that, there's just nothing much to do in the game for me.
Bro a game shouldn't feel like a chore, it should be a fun thing to do. A fun and different way to spend your time, you already have chores irl so why having more with a game? At least thats my opinion 🤷🤷
Eh. It's a mid game but so many people acting like WuWa is so much better, and for me it wasn't. If anything, WuWa highlighted the fact that I didn't need another "better" Genshin in the first place; I just don't care for another chore simulator like that again. Genshin gave me exactly what I was looking for at the time - a Zelda-like colorful world to relax to. Sure, after some time it all turned into a routine, but that was inevitable disregarding how devs treat their product and the playerbase. You won't stick to a single gacha game if you only care for the best experience possible, as new better games are bound to come out, you stick to what give you the best of an aspect you care about the most, and for a long time it was the world design for me. I absolutely loved Inazuma, especially Enkanomiya. At the end of the day, I'm glad I dropped both GI and WuWa, and I'm on a verge of dropping HSR and ZZZ too. After I do, I won't touch any gacha again, as my problems with all these games stem not from how devs treat their playerbase or how actively they add QoL features, but from the way gachas are designed in general. Feels good to be free.
with how absurdly fast the phlogiston bar depletes when u use the 2nd stage natlan special traversals its just so bad, especially when it involves vertical movement. they hate players zooming around so bad, but then places culuses so far up on top of every highest point available
Dude yes!!! Why is it soooo hard to put permanent mounts. I have Mauvika and I love her bike...for like 10 seconds...its sad. Just started Wuwa 2 days ago and let me tell you, traversal is 100x better.
Honestly, i like the stamina system, because it makes me think of managing my resources efficiently The feeling we had in mondstad, finally climbing a hill after x attempt was way more satisfying than just infinite phlogiston It's just my opinion ofc
@ look, i dont care about ur silly satisfaction, but at the very least they should have increased the stamina cap. literally zero effort whatsoever on their end
Staying with Genshin Impact felt like being in a domestically abusive relationship. I'm moving on now because I love myself and I don't deserve to be heartbroken again and again by Hoyoverse, even after all the time, effort, and money I've invested. Goodbye, Genshin.
I'd love to play this game again if they add skip button and an option to mute paimon, it's like they don't respect player's time, I still love the exploration and puzzles despite low mobility, just let me skip the story
Paimon isn't even the issue, it's the writing that's the problem. It's like Hoyo doesn't understand how to write a human being anymore. It's just yap for ages to say what could be summarized in a single sentence, like Natlan had an utterly useless flashback that you had to play through...why? It added literally nothing and only served to pad out the already trash story.
I love how you spoke straight facts while still maintaining an objective standpoint. I'm also glad that you wish the game a better future ahead rather than trashtalking about it.
Well most of genshin is the devs just milking u for money when have explored like 70-80% percent of the world getting primogems is very hard and they do not even make the experience enjoyable they also put newer characters (as he said) side by side like mavuika and citali, and wrio and furina in the later banner which makes it impossible to pull chars which we like If this keeps on going they might start running out of players sooner than expected! !
So? As a f2p all you can do is save. All characters do rerun eventually. So save for who you want. However long it takes. Keep in mind Genshin now has a pity system for 50/50 losses and WuWa doesn't. So since "devs listen" maybe ask the devs to add it in? What I personaly want is more team slots. Sucks you can't have 1 for every element.
@@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 More team slots will just make the mechanics more complicated And for saving primogems I am taking about pulling for characters that u like I really wanted mavuika and got her. But I also like furina. That doesnot mean that I have to skip one to get another. I am just saying that if they gave the rewards more efficiently. like the 10 pulls we got in the second part of 5.3 could have saved me a lot when pulling for mavuika. And if u want to pull for the weapon banner u have to take the chance of getting the wrong one. I am not saying that wuwa is perfect But genshin could do better
@@AmethystArctik 1. We only need 1 team slot (Party in Genshin has 15) to cover all elements. I'm thinking doubling it to 10 would be good. There is space for it in the menu. 2. I was saving for Furina but i really wanted Arlecchino even though I had Hu Tao (i still don't use her. I used Yanfei instead). Got her very early (i risk my 50/50's so i only have to save for 90) at 9 pity on guarentee. Then i lose trying to complete the family collection with lyney at around 30 pity. From there i just keep saving till Furina's first rerun. You take risks or don't. It'll take a long while to accumulate limited characters. I have 12 now and i've been off and on the game with burn outs since 1.6. 3. I never touched the weapon banner. I prefer characters. I'm still doing that in WuWa. 4. Capturing radiance is so nice. Helps with saving.
Yeah I don't care for exploration either lol, unless it's something like NiER Automata. Some characters aren't even gonna have reruns due to chronicled wish banners being a thing. . (I got Shenhe with Baizhu being my 50/50 loss, but got Prime Jadecutter anyway with the free 10 pulls they gave me) . Even though it's all down to preference I only play gacha games for the female characters anyway, so I'm gonna pull for said females even if they're going to standard banner.
I’ve never played a game where the devs sabotage the MC as hard as they do in Genshin. That ruins the immersion for me. I’m convinced that dendro MC being pretty decent was an accident. And this crap they pulled with pyro traveler being awesome only in one specific boss battle just shows you how far the devs will go to make you open those wallets.
Afer all these years Genshin still can't switch between keyboard/mouse and controller in game, but somehow can use mouse in special event tab, and use keyboard when changing the team name. This means it's not a technical limitation. It's just pure laziness.
The only technical problem in genshin is the outdated engine dat makes every character’s model shitty, other than dat, theres no such thing as technical issues, but their willingness to apply it🤣
Let’s not forget Genshin is the only hoyo game that doesn’t have android controller support for some unknown reason they never bothered to implement it. Yet hsr and zzz has it. 🤔
Wuwa gives out 5 limited and standard wishes each patch, standard wishes should be more common than limited pulls because yk THEYRE STANDARD PULLS, and it really is a good thing they give standard wishes out because of the existence of the standard weapon banner.
0:38 The reason why they don't invest back into their games to improve them after getting player feedback is because it's more profitable to invest into a new game instead and potentially grabbing the already existing player base + new players. It's an incredibly scummy and greedy practice, but yea, financially it does make sense. What it resulted in, and what they rolled the dice on, is that it pisses off a lot of their original core player base and I know some (myself included) who are unwilling to try any other games made by this company because of this.
Genshin is dead, seriously. The only people playing it are the ones that are already way too drown in the sunk cost to be able to quit it. I tried playing again recently to see if i could get mavuika, after quitting 2 years ago. And ngl, the game felt even worse than when i decided to drop it. I guess we didn't knew better back then
So basically because you couldn’t get her it’s dead? 💀 bro im sorry to tell you this but genshin is more popular now than back then. It’s constantly getting new players every single week. I used to think genshin leak channels would just simply die out and that people would stop playing genshin but surprisingly the community and those channels and banner sales are STILL going STRONG. People just want it to die so bad so they come to places like this where they can attract others who feel mutual about it hence why u got 31+ likes for saying it dead when it definitely isn’t.
@@Not_obligated2carebanner sales r doing great? Ye dats y they chose to put mavuika n citlali tgt on the same banner 🤣theres legit proofs for how the dev r endagered by the dropping sales n u plyrs still chose to deny it lmao
After playing Wuthering Waves, I will never play another gacha game with developers that treat their customers like shit. Hoyo will never see another dime from me until they shape up and actually start caring. Take a note from Kuro games.
I don't think Genshin's team will ever change... they have way too many brainwashed fans, that's why it keeps generating millions even while being the weakest gacha in terms of user experience.
What’s even worst is Genshin devs are targeting CC who plays wuthering waves even if they don’t have any affiliation with them. Going so far as threatening to take down their channels and livelihoods. Absolutely despicable Source : Ryuuku Sensei TH-cam Channel.
@@theunknownone2331 according to tectone, Mrpokke got his TH-cam account held hostage for 48 hours after he plays wuthering waves and criticise Genshin QOL compared to wuthering waves
@@MundaneCat idk man people who trust anything tectone says are a massive red flag to me, I thought people left that guy back in 2022 💀 literally only brainless NPC’s who can’t think for their selves watch that guy…
@ let's be honest there's no way to satisfy the player base even if they gave us 80 wishes right now a good amount of people will complain they lost their 50/50 another good amount are gonna complain about the characters on banner like there isn't 40+ characters and each patch can only have 4 5 stars and 6 4 stars they could double explorations rewards people would still complain the fact that I'm defending a billion dollar company lets me know how bad the other side is
@@Vynter98 It would be pretty damn generous since a resin free weekend would give you 48 hours of unlimited material and artifact farming. You could build every character in the game if you played nonstop. I'd take it. lol
*How Genshin Impact Keeps Disappointing MANY Players in 2025 I'm not disappointed. Don't put things in my mouth. I'm not saying your video is bad, I'm NOT defending Hoyo, but I hate it when titles are written generalized just because it sounds better.
If you are an adult when first touching genshin you are saved. But if you are underage when first touching genshin you are around uni or adult, whereyour core memory is doing genshin everyday. These chuldren raised by genshin, and will defend their game to the last blood lol.
The first phase of 5.4 is DoA. Other than whales will whale on Mizuki a lot of people skip and wait for 6.0 for a free one. Also Sigewinne will probably be an instant skip as well. The only people will pull for her is whales or people who love her character. Some are saying that it’s for players to recover primogems but this will be the lowest revenue they get on this patch. If they think Furina will save the day they’re insane. Hoyo is in a rude awakening for the rest of new 5.x character other than Skirk, it’s rumored she’s going to an insane Cryo dps. I could go on with Iansan coming out later than she should’ve or Capitano is a sacrifice for Skirk but I don’t want to write all day.
I'm still waiting for a Geo character that lives in Sumeru's desert area. Female Catalyst like Ningguang or Female Bow user since Gorou is the only Geo unit with a bow. Still hasn't happened yet & I doubt it ever will...😔
*When exploration is slow, boring on Genshin:* *Devs:* "BRO, DID YOU SEE THIS NEW CHARACTER? THEY'RE INSANE! SAY GOODBYE TO CLIMBING, THAT'S BORING... EXPLORING IS SO MUCH FUN WITH THIS NEW CHARACTER, YOU MUST PULL THEM NOW!" *Genshin Players who play with skin mods and the no-transparency shader:* "Nah, I'll stick to climbing. At least I can enjoy the view :v"
Not to defend genshin but I like the capturing radiance because it prevents you from losing the 50/50 more than three times in a row. I got a guarantee Citlali just because I knew I’d get capturing radiance as I lost my last three. Now I’m playing her and lost six 50/50s in a row and wishing I had it there. I hope it comes there
My guy you have to try out other gachas that arent FGO and Genshin, thats the most scamming system ever made and they make you think its incredible until try another game
dude losing 3 times in a row is robery at daylight, capturing radiance didnt solve anything, is just a placebo. what they need to do is increase the % to 60/40 in new characters and 80/20 for old ones. a sane person would be very dissapointed losing 3 times in a row or you just have really low standars 🤷♂
This patch is a clear indication that Hoyo clearly still don't care about us They only care about milking the player, or else they won't do the banner this way
It always amusing watching these videos. People always complain and say Genshin is dying and yet Genshin is still alive despite dying for more than 4 years and still successful. Maybe the issue isn't Genshin, disappointing, may the issue is that there is a vocal minority of supposedly 'hardcore' gamers who want a more 'let's say dedicated game experience than the casual, fun, cozy experience the bigger majority has. Like in my opinion genshin is a fun game, with very low power creep that doesn't really incentive you to pull characters for its endgame content but rather because you actually enjoy them for story. Its a game that if its honestly treated as a single player game where you aren't expecting to compete with the imaginary standard of clearing the abyss with 36 stars eachs time, you can enjoy yourself without burning yourself outgrinding cause you want to do big dmg. Its like pokemon in a sense. Yes I can probably go and catch and use ou pokemon for a playthrough and steam roll the game, but then again I can just use a team of pokemon I like instead. It may be difficult or more annoying but its still something I can enjoy doing. There is also the fact some people like a majority of casuals who only ever play genshin and no other gacha...just don't care about all these suggestions about what other gachas have. Some people don't care about the rewards not being the same as other games because they are simply not playing other games to even care about. A guy who plays only Mario isn't gonna give a crap if the new sonic game has shadow as a free DLC and extra stages, etc. Maybe just maybe....Genshin is a good game and the majority of the community just sees it as such. After all....why else would it have remained alive despite all the 'disappointments' why else is it still here despite not doing everything the supposed 'superior, more generous games' do.
Because Genshin has the most braindead community ever filled with brainless idiots spending fortunes on it and stupid kids who defend this game like if their life depends on it... That's why Genshin is what it is today.
Bait title ✅ Low quality CC ✅ AI generated script ✅Glazing Wuwa ✅ No proof of decline ✅ CCs of certain game really can't stop doom posting, doing it all free too 😆
The best thing about playing Genshin for me now in days is logging out and jumping on WuWa. But what's just genuinly the saddest part is knowing that it wont change and it won't get better. Hoyo has shown for 5 years now that they don't care, it doesent matter what you think becouse they won't care anyways.
It's funny you say that, I felt the opposite on my first 2 months of playing WuWa. I couldn't wait to log out of WuWa's shit dailies, fighting, boring world, to go and do Genshin ones. And then I quit WuWa because it was boring, and the only thing it had going for it (combat), was too easy to be the only core part of the game. Genshin is easy but it has so many different sides to it.
Nope I have it installed but haven't touched in a long while. You have better odds in gambling then getting the stats you want on an artifact and that alone puts me off playing.
I'm just a casual player and love the vibrant design and unique themes of the nations in the game. I will keep playing to experience the story and see more corners of the world. Til I'm not really interested into any endgame-content I had no reason to complain about the mistreatment as of now but ofc I'm aware that they should be more generous to those who spend even more time and especially money for the game. There will be a lot of other gacha to play in 2k25 so there was no use for me personally complaining about a game that is only one out of a bunch. As long as the story and aesthetic is appealing I'm pleased.
They won't change it unless the Chinese community asks for such changes since it's their top revenue market. Why would they care about the voices of the minority when they don't earn much from them? Just like what happened to Neuvilette, Hoyo reverted back the changes then compensated us with 10 free pulls because the Chinese community had the option to file a complaint in the Chinese government. In conclusion, if the Chinese community voices out their needs, Hoyo will make changes but since they won't, Hoyo assumes it to be fine so they won't change.
They dont even listen to chinese players anymore, the last time they did were due to nerfing neuvillette so people would pull for mualani, but the chineses were going to show hoyo's dirty trick to government and they went back
@@Onigumo. they still listen but the Chinese community doesn't have complaints, and even fine the 5.4 Livestream to be good, same as Japan, they like the design so they're having fun.
@@Aetherlali chineses dont complain much cuz they get a lot of stuff like special arts from bdays and free primogems, hoyo is stingy to global players and most people dont know the existence of such special rewards
@@Onigumo. That's my point. Since they don't complain, they won't change. It's business. Any company will focus on giving the needs of their huge market which is from China because they have a billion population there compared to western areas.
pretty much my thoughts. as much as people hate the wuwa vs genshin comparison, i will never spend on genshin again, though i may play because im already invested in the story and characters. i do however plan on spending in wuwa and actively supporting the devs simply because they listen
at this point I really don't understand what is going on inside Genshin players' head when they keep boasting up about their 'beloved game' revenue being the top 5 every month, yet the quality they got from such a huge amount of money they have donated to Hoyo is not getting better.
They boast because people keep saying the game is dead when their revenue speaks otherwise . It's just to prove a point and not necessarily to gloat about their spending habits. They are just annoyed because people like you can't stop hating the game to the point where you want it dead and that's why they make fun by saying stuff like " oh no genshin didn't make 100 million it's going eos very soon".
@@ahmedmubarak751 wow, bold of you to assume me as a hater that wants Genshin to be dead, despite the fact that I'm actually a day two player. But seriously, after I find out that hoyo only makes characters model with perfect lip-sync only for CN dub, making the rest (JN, EN, KR) feels weird because the lips have stopped moving but the voice line is still playing, it makes me realize how bad hoyo has treated its player by giving them not as much as the player have given to them. I once was a Genshin defender back then, always try to debunk every false theory thrown by haters, but now my eyes have been finally opened to the fact that Hoyo just cares about your wallet and not your experience while playing the game. it's been 4 years, yet they still can't make character model with perfect lip-sync for others dubs, despite billion of dollars the have earned compared to their competitors. Why would I be proud of a game that has the highest revenue but treats its players as milking cows.
Speaking of NPC designs, I just remember when I was collecting HIA coins. There's this troubled NPC named Belf in Lumina Square, her expressions and gestures are one example of good design. She really looked and felt troubled by something. On-spot portrayal of someone in dillema. Small things like that, when done right, adds up to a great emersive experience.
simply because we complain, but no one actually stop playing and buying characters, as long as the game is making money, they will never change anything.
Its because they not afraid of losing any player. No matter what they do, their MASSIVE devoted player will accept it with with no resistence. Some are loud, but it have no effect if there are ppl who just accept or dont care what the company do as long as they can play the game. So they just do the bare minimun and kept the cost low. TBH not a bad stratergy in a business perspective. Weed out the loud one who are unhappy. Keep the happy one with the least effort. They can do this because of how many player they have.
These day I didn't do daily or anything all I do is wait for the last day of event finish everything and claim the reward and logout wait for the next event last day 😮💨
As long as people keep whaling on Genshin, nothing will change. A player who pays gives the impression that they like the game however it is. And the whales won't stop whaling. Genshin's revenue needs to drop significantly in order for the devs to wake up, but it's only rising.
Wuthering waves and even other games from hoyoverse all have something that is better than genshin. the only thing really keeping me going is the story of the characters and the music. Lantern rite story was great for one, at least for me. So my strategy in order to just enjoy the game is to fucking just enjoy the game when I can, and THEN play other games.
You are saying this as if Genshin doesn't have something better than all these 3 games too. Genshin has superior character design, world building, music and exploration to WuWa. Exploration/additional gameplay mechanics to HSR and ZZZ. The only thing all these games beat genshin in is slightly better combat (debatable depending on your personal preferences).
The issue with genshin is that every thing they give is so less,like at least make 1 certain limited banner character choice for every birth day 😭 some games does this plz hoyo
At least before, you didn’t need Kazuha or Venti to explore, they just made it more convenient. Without the Natlan characters you’re glued to the lil dinos or else some puzzles, chests and oculi are impossible.
@@EclipticRaisinI don't quite get your point. You're saying that before, characters like Venti or Kazuha weren’t necessary for exploration, just convenient-yet for Natlan, you're saying the same thing? Wouldn't getting little dinos for exploration, rather than Natlan characters with similar convenience but no necessity, be a net positive going by your logic?
Played Genshin off and on for about 2 years, but pulled away from it fully way before Natlan came out. I was curious how well it was doing and I'm not surprised it's still raking in cash while at the same time still being stingy and lacking in quality compared to other newer options. While I didn't play Wuthering Waves as long as I did Genshin, I still had far more fun in that game and wish it the best. In fact sometimes get the desire to hop back in, but when I leave a gacha it's usually for good since I've already missed so many events and characters. I don't like juggling gacha games, so when Zenless came out I had to make a choice and eventually went with that one. It really astounds me how vastly different Zenless is compared to Genshin. You can 100% tell the devs absolutely love their game and their playerbase. There's even a fun little easter egg in one of the missions that has the developers literally thanking you for playing their game. I think Genshin's dev team just needs some new blood. Hoyoverse really should put all that money back into the game that practically made the open world gacha genre. But as the saying goes - don't fix what isn't broke. So long as the playerbase continues to throw money at them, it doesn't matter how many complain while they do it. Nothing will change.
im still playing genshin, mainly because i spent way to much money on the game early on. i enjoy the story, but when the "end game" can be done with all F2P characters, and the world is boring, the game doesnt deserve as much effort as WUWA
Maybe the Mihoyo parameter is the revenue they made. Well in 2024 their revenue hit hard compared to 2023 so if this keeps happening then they might change eventually. We will see the effect on 2026 as 2025 is just start
bro just said hsr cares about its players in the first 30 seconds oof Nah man there is no way you have laid eyes upon star rail in the last 2 months with what you are saying about it
You guys can give this game hate all you want but I won't ya it does get annoying doing the same thing over and over but I play 24hours every single day so you haters can go where the trash is your probably all wuwa fans and honkai starrail and tower of fantasy so instead of giving the game hate go grow up and play a different game also you can comment and this and be rude but I won't care because I don't need to listen to haters or kids or teenagers
They don't give 10 pull every patch bc otherwise it would be meaningless to give same 10 pull every anniversary or Lantern Rite. "Be happy we give you these 10 pulls as a reward twice a year! Better than 3 pulls anyway, right?". But on the other side, they count every primogem they give us. And bc they're stingy like that, giving us a free 10 pull every patch, will lead to decreasing amount of gems we will get that patch. Either no region to explore or less chests, or more common chest instead. I remember how happy i was when they said that Archon quest will give 500 primos now. But when i logged into the game and saw that that rewards was time limited i was disappointed yet again. It wrong of me to get my expectations from this company, really. Did i do the quest? No. Did i miss 2k primos from it? Yes. Why? Bc i don't like to be forced to speedrun the permanent content. It's fine if the Archon quest was limited as well, but it's not. So why the heck rewards for it are limited? To pressure my FOMO?! That's an illegal manipulation and i won't fall for it. My mental health is more important to me, than some primos. Hate the company for doing this bs! Really!
after of what they did on phase 1 which is two new characters in single phase i quickly migrated away from genshin to nikke because they are listening to their players
I will say this again.. if they don't want us to skip dialogue/cutscene. At least make the clickable dialogue text faster.. And I need artifact strongbox to be able to choose 'piece' I need to get instead of randomizing it with either flower, feather etc
@krumi_hazuki1440 ik, it's not about the sanctifying elixir. It's the strongbox options to choose specific piece i wanted. Let's just say i need Time Sand piece on HoD, i don't mind RNG/Gamba the mainstat substat, i just need more chance to get that specific Time Sand piece. Just like how HSR does with Relic Remains
@@jacktheripper7935 Idk what kind of community you think you're talking about but the people you see on twitter are not the entire 60 million genshin players . Alot of the genshin community are pretty chill and don't engage in whatever tribal wars you people are participating in and even more of those people don't even follow gacha games social media and are just playing the game because they like cute anime characters in a big explorable world heck most of them don't even know what meta is . So just try to broaden your horizon and don't get stuck in the social media brainrot since it's not good for your health and just play and enjoy what you wanna play .
Opinion-wise, I am not surprised Genshin is not doing too well, I am disappointed I am led to believe that people are waiting for Genshin to fall. After 4 years of playing this game, I still enjoy it every moment, and I am waiting for it to rise again.
With genshin, it's even worse than just them being out of touch, because that imply if they're in touch they will do something but no, they're keeping an eye on the community VERY closely and watch EVERYTHING that happen, whatever they're doing right now is them ACTIVELY choose to do it, they don't do QoL because they choose not to do it, not because they don't know it's an issue. Better yet, they will ONLY do any QoL once they have found a way to monetize it first, any QoL that has not been done yet because they have yet to find a way to sell you for it. For example, Why do you think the new Artifact Elixir thing is this bad ? Because they hide those elixir in the open world, and guess what happen when you do the exploration ? You feel bad because it suck, and guess which type of character they're selling in Natlan ? Exploration character, now you're more likely to go there and buy the character. I bet my own ass on it, if they find a way to monetize the fucking loadout in the game they WILL do it, in 1 day with all 3 devs team working at the same time to make it happen
Genshin shills will always find a way to glaze and praise the game and would go out of their way to call you a "hater" or a "kuro bot." they deserve the treatment that hoyo gives them.
Genshin shills kind of deserve it at this point. Imagine being exploited to the point where you praise corporate greed that tricked into paying more and yet celebrating the company's revenue like it's your own achievement. That's just sad, man. LMAO.
I'm so glad I quit that game in 2022, It was so boring exploring even back then and the exploration was so annoying to deal with where you had to look up guides to 100% places because aside from a trash compass that had a cooldown for no reason, you had nothing that would help you find what you were looking for and some chests were locked behind hidden puzzles you had to find on your own. The end game was just a dps check and the characters that I liked in the 1.0 patch like diluc weren't good outside otherworld exploration and the artifact dungeons, the artifacts were always disappointing like coming back to the same dungeon to effectively farm them and eat shit when your pieces rolled into flat stats every day. Felt like I was overall wasting time instead of having fun. Wuwa showed me what it's like to have a game that is meant for players to have fun in, adding new content every patch that is actually letting you play the game instead of playing minigames like a little QA specialist and give them feedback for it. From the whole story skipping mechanic that wouldn't force you to sit through the dialogue to a thing I asked genshit for years to add which is a roguelike mode that is in Illusive realm, I started playing in 2020 first day and I saw so much potential, slowly getting more and more frustrated with the company behavior towards their product. I'll never touch any hoyoverse titles, nor will I ever interact with that company in any way. I'm pissed I got that Diluc skin, I didn't even get to see it most of the time because he wasn't meta in the abyss.
Tbh, HSR disappoint even more. Power creep there is insane. And storytelling in 3.0 is so bad. I started lantern rite, had 1st dialogue and Ellie I saw more animations in 1 dialogue than in 10 hour story. I don’t even know what is worse: have low rewards but also have characters, who are relevant for next 2 years at least or have a lot of rewards, but being forced to pull new unit bcs I would have so much struggle to clear endgame. Even if my old characters have insane builds
I’m mostly just a bit sad about all this. I absolutely still love genshin and it just hurts me sometimes even if those facts are all true. I play all the popular anime gaccha games and enjoy them all but genshin is still the one I enjoy the most to this day and the only thing that I don’t like about it right now is a few of the character designs and that our we can’t make more condensed resin. And i dont see any wrong with genshin players enjoying other games more because through genshin, other games are able to shine with the things that genshin lacks and that’s something good for these games and the players that don’t enjoy genshin anymore. When it comes to quality and fairness, in my opinion, Honkai star rail does mug worse than genshin. In my opinion, the best quality anime gaccha game right now is Zenless zone zero because it just does everything right. And Wuwa does an awesome job aswell and is perfect for people that get tired of Genshin and want something new and fulfilling. I don’t even know why I write this comment honestly. But right now my personal enjoyment rating for those games 1.Genshin 2.Zenless zone zero 3. Wuthering waves 4.HS But I’m also someone who is very emotional when it comes to comfort and characters. I’ve loved these characters in genshin for years now and I’m everyday looking forward to playing mostly because of them and I don’t even really care about the downsides genshin has at the moment. I would like to hear others feeling about the gaccha games at the moment
That exploration part is off base. Players have the options for saurians, and also, there are available exploration mechanics in every region, and there have been exploration mechanics in characters kits since the beginning. Natlan's exploration isn't an issue. Also, natlan has the most unique npcs in the game. I don't know why that wasn't mentioned. I understand this is a criticism video but not acknowledging both sides of the coin of what Genshin has and hasn't done feels a bit disingenuously framed to a certain extent. Utter than that I agree with most of these points.
6:58 Now I'm thinking about this... Why didn't they add something similar to Torrent in ER? We have MC, we have Paimon (basically Melina but silly, infantilized and sometimes hella annoying). Hell, they could've just given us a magical hoverboard or whatever for that matter after completing Mondstadt's quest. But Hoyo will not do that as it will render Mualani and similar to her characters useless.
I really love genshin for everything it is. While i do wish that they gave more rewards it's still very enjoyable to me . The world exploration the art the characters the puzzles the world quests and especially the archon quests . Exploring mindlessly is just so much fun 😊 I also love saving and pulling for my favourite characters and love building them. I don't focus much on damage or pulling for meta . Genshin is just so beautiful...the map the places the view everything is just perfect .
I play Genshin and ZZZ, boiling it down, it really does feel cheaper to play ZZZ. I had built enough polychrome to get Miyabi. Then through all the daily login rewards and all the events, I had enough to get Astra without deciding to drop $30 to get enough polychrome to get her.
Oh yeah, so instead of criticizing something in hope to improve it, let's just abandon it... It's because we like it deep down that we complain. If it's to say s***, then say nothing, thanks.
@@jacktheripper7935 Do you actually like it or are you just having? Because these days there are alot of haters who love to wear the mask of "oh but I actually care and want the game to be better" when in reality alot of them wants the game to be dead just like a certain bald man .
@@ahmedmubarak751 I played the game for more than 3 years and deep down, I liked it and still do but what happened with Dehya was the last straw because I couldn't bear how much Hoyo spits on their players. And seeing people defending Hoyo's scummy practices, pisses me off even more. Because what I hate the most is not bad games, but those with wasted potential/corrupted by greed and those who defend it.
My account in Genshin is so bad that I have lost 92% 50-50 and it always go to hard pity. I got only Xilonen C0 in 250 pulls not even C1. After that in that much pulls you can atleast buy resonance chain from wishing game currency in WuWv but not in Genshin. That's why playing Genshin gacha feels much worse and is less rewarding in terms of the time we spent.
I'm sorry but how exactly the exploration gimmicks of Natlan characters become "useless" outside of Natlan? Their skills are being blocked or what? Valid criticism is one thing but this one needs to stop.
Life span of players are expected half a year to a year. Played genshin around nov 2020, and finished the game for 4months, so i stop playing in 2021. Just online every other year, when update comes. Right now, i went back last year, and already consume all contents (except tcg) and would go into hiatus again this month until next year. For me, its just a game of enjoyment where no attachment of feelings involved. I just love the music and reaction base combat. If i get bored, then, i close the game for a year, then check back.
Thank god i haven’t wasted a fortune on this game. In-game purchases are so pricey and not to mention I have lost many banner characters to 50/50. I might actually stop this game cuz: 1. The developers are SO lazy to upgrade the character animation. I would appreciate it if they add animation/poses every 5 new characters to add more depth & dimension to existing chars 2. Absolutely no character/lore development for old existing chars.
Lol if you hate the game dont like the game just leave it and play other games . Why are u making a fuss about this showing jealousy about a game success and for views . Everyone now are rage baiting and getting triggered as genshin got 100 M lol . The real genshin players like me and everyone whom i have coop with in the game all are quite satisfied with the game . For me i only want a skip button for world quest in genshin and rest everything is fine .
Dude if I hear Da Wei do another "We hear you" speech in the anniversary I'm gonna lose it
Oh he will I bet, complete with crocodile tears
@@Desolas_ yep, and the sad thing is that there will still be a lot of gullible hoyoshills who will believe those crocodile tears
More like "We hear you & we don't fucking care as long you gives us money"
That was pure hypocrisy, I knew the moment I saw it.
"We had it rough"
Doing what? Counting money and deleting feedback? Yeah that sure gotta put strain on your poor fingers.
@@guiscardaddams8745 "we had it rough"
Bro, you are at the head of one of the most profitable company, being the king in its own domain...
Like, wtf?
They deserve all the hate in the world. They ignored the community since the beginning. Every feedback, every survey, they just don't care, all they care is making money, no matter how bad the player experience is. Genshin will never change and I hope more and people realize that it's not worth wasting your time on genshit, especially since nothing is improving and when there are so many other games that are much much better and the devs have different priorities, player experience 1st and gatcha 2nd.
Wuthering Waves keep it up, you're the best.
You dont need to play you know....people have diffrent opinion i believe Natlan Was peak genshin and is far better then Star Rail whos Power Creep is insane.
Same with mavuika all hated on her but im Sure EVERYONE still got her.
Your comment is a gold mine for genshin haters.
With that being said they do need to increase resin regeneration and fix the artifact system as well, you can spend 3 months straight leveling up artifacts that have crit% rate / crit DMG ratio yet it’ll level up def% or some other irrelevant stat the entire 4 times.
@@Daraen1992 I agree I don’t play star rail so I can’t judge but to me natlan had me engaged in the exploration and I love its OST’s I haven’t enjoyed exploring like that since liyue/mondstat days. I honestly thought I was going to hate it, because before I started all I saw was fake criticism and hate from people who haven’t even started natlan yet 💀.
@@Not_obligated2care if you just get good artefact with 6 runs everyone would stop playing bevause thats rndgame in basically every gatcha game the Grind never stops. I would love to habe more resin too but i have no Problem to het my chars leveled up AND Farm good atrefact maybe the others havent a good resin efficency
@@Not_obligated2carei don't want good artifact easy to get, it is fun flexing my luck to other people 😂 , i have two cv 50 artifact 🎉
Hoyo released the biggest scam in this patch, with locking rewards and new limited units behind different phases, and yet hoyoshills are still celebrating their revenue. Truly, the worst community in gacha gaming, lol.
Going for new units instead of the ones you want is dumb. Unless ofc you want them.
@@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 I mean, Mavuika is an archon, and Citlali is her BiS, as well as one of the best characters in the game, very popular on her own, too. Of course people want both of them.
It's likely the people celebrating the revenue are F2P. It's the ideal situation for them. If they are in love with the game, enjoying it for free, and it's doing well financially, it's reasonable they'd be the most ferocious in defending it. People that actually make up the revenue are more likely to be disappointed with what they get out of it.
F them, that's what stupid sheep deserve, although it is sad for the ones who do want the game to improve.
@@alreadyd1d
It's a massive shame that Mavuika, and the Natlan Archon Quest, is horribly-written with all the contrived conveniences for her, as well as how completely out of place she is (everything in Natlan is completely out of place). She's just TERRIBLE in writing, design, and tone.
Citlali, I don't know much on her.
even if u 100% the map its barely able for a 1 or even 10 pull per region. they're so stingy with the primogems from chests coupled with the painstaking exploration
Bro I stop doing exploration in GI, the experience is fckin awful and the reward is horrendous especially after playing Wuwa, so much more fun and smoother while giving more reward, you can easily open enough chest in an area in a few minutes to get one pull, GI gives measly 2 primo on common chest and 5 on normal chest and they are so far apart/behind annoying puzzle that take forever. It might took hours to get a few pull if you are lucky
The island and the underwater region before Natlan was very well implemented - good enough dialogues, many cutscenes, minimal blackscreen time, beautiful environment, a lot (I mean x3) rewards from almost every chest, very easy to navigate and 100% clear, in-region taxi. It was the best and after it - the worst - the unskippable endless dialogues in a time-limited region that is still small, but quite frustrating to explore. Dialogues can randomly start at any point without warning - WHY?? In the latest patch they added more unskippable randomly starting during exploration quests. This was too much for me
@@zeromailssIf any Genhin players thought your lying here’s my 3 month F2P account looks like. I started on the Jiyan rerun patch so I have Jiyan, Camellya and her weapon, Yinlin and her weapon, Carlotta and her weapon, Zhezhi and finally Jinshi and her weapon. I’m pretty lucky losing only 2 50/50 but I’m only able to pull this much because Kuro just gave out that many pull.
If any people think I’m lying I can post my UID here.
@@Taz-111 pretty much got the same as you and the only time losing a 50 50 was Roccia but I still managed to get her and her weapon. From 20k astrite down to 3k but slowly recovering from doing events and dailies
Probably wouldn't get Phoebe and Brant I'll just farm more for Zani and Cartethyia
Sorry but we got like 40 pulls from exploring and doing side quests in like three weeks if that
We are ar 57 btw
They don't have overflow resin yet which is norm now and 10 free pulls every patch , which other gacha have
Overflow is litteraly just a cap increase. It needs a regen rate buff instead. There's like a 440 overflow waveplate cap. Add that to 240 and you get 680 waveplate cap. It's much bigger but what's better is the 5 min regen instead of 8.
@@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 does wuwa get 10 pulls every patch? just asking kinda new to game
And it has 480 overflow cap i think regenerating every 12 mins
@@AmethystArctik actually nah. It gets some for weapon, some for character, and some for standard. So it's more then 10 if you add them together i think.
@@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 o so 7 7 and 7 so 21 ah i see
@@AmethystArctik Yes but not directly. You got 5 limited + 5 standard from login, and then another 7 each from shop, so In total you get 12 character pulls, 7 weapon pulls and 12 standard pulls per patch from those two. Compared to HSR you get 10 limited from login + ~7.5 limited and standard pulls from shop resets. So in total you get about 2 more limited pulls but 7 are restricted to weapon banner, with lower pity and guarantee on weapon banner those are worth slightly more though. It also means you get a standard 5star weapon of your choice every 3-4 patches.
Honestly I can forgive this game many things - because of good memories of the past - but there is one thing I find disgusting: they made exploration boring and annoying. And if you want better experience be ready to pull new characters
Very disappointing 😔
Even with new character, your are locked to them then, most people have favorite character and their best team usually suck at exploration and even with the new character, the exploration is worst than Wuwa by a miles
even with all new characters it is still boring. I was enjoying climbing mountains in Monstadt more than wastelands of Natlan with Xilonen, Mavuika and Mualani
Having them is not enough
You need to maximize them
I mean... Personally, *I* really enjoyed exploration in Natlan (completed it over 90%), and I don't have any Natlan characters, just Wanderer, and him and the saurians are *more* than enough, even though they wanted to sell the Natlan characters... When it comes to exploring, I just enjoy the puzzles and mechanics and it's *very* rare that I find something annoying in that regard, usually just long, drawn out World Quests, hence why Inazuma and the forest in Sumeru likely had the lowest exploration in my map for a while... My point is, if you truly like exploration, you'll simply enjoy exploration, OFC, you'd prefer ways to make it easier overall, but if you really *do* like exploring in general, you shouldn't let that hold you back from having fun
The fact that u need to pull for specific characters to improve exploration only proves that u have to pay them first to be able to do so. 😂
I always said genshin is like an experiment game, they make maps they delete and every nation is made by a different team, so it feels disconnected
@@AruLily The player base should experiment on not giving them time and money then see what happens.
thier players just labdogs
Each region feels as connected to me as the (Non-Avengers) Marvel movies. Where its just small things that hint at a connection like Tony flipping through his dad's notes and seeing mentions of Captain America. In Genshin's case it would be like if Tony never interacted with Cap beyond said notes and just repeatedly heard mentions of what he did. IDK if that makes sense
What really sucks is that as a BOTW player, who played Genshin during the pandemic due to its similarities, is that I stopped playing it because they took all the things that BOTW has and did not improve on it. Genshin's only saving grace was its lore and overworld but then it got downgraded as time goes by. WuWa on the other hand reminds me of Nier:Automata and how they took inspiration from it and did not copy it like Genshin did with BOTW. The Kuro Devs always improve on their game from their own experience and listening to the player base until they got their own identity.
What also sucks is that BOTW also has a parry but Genshin doesn't and only then it was from an event or limited from the overworld.
To add on the "lore" issue. Story, lore and writing are different sides. Not only do they give a very thin slice of lore 3-4 times per year - like a few names, a 2 word description and the party they are a part of, they aren't even complete. And the cherry on top, they are limited time events when we beg for 4 years to be able to replay them.
Genshin doesn't know if it should be a game or just an anime.
After a year, all you get from wishes are worthless c7 copies when your cutie trashy Amber you still love so much is only c1 (half the reason why chests feel so unrewarding).
Writing and dialogue are bad and drawn out. The Mavuika quest was about preparing an important event, and you go with her to micromanage every party "is everything ready?" "good" in order to "build anticipation".
And to not forget Paimon, they had a good joke once at the beginning with her and since then they remind us how funny they are and how important Paimon is.
Kuro devs are NieR fans from what I know.
And what im sure of is NieR is truly PEAK!!!
They literally didn’t do this shit a year ago. Furina has 100% uptime when walking on water. You can do it as long as you want in any region. The Natlan characters’ exploration mechanics being limited to Natlan is very stupid
agreed! why they do that
Things that would have made Genshin better:
1- Skip button(At least for side quests...)
2- Not waiting 800+ days for a rerun character/weapon (PrimordialJadeCutter, Eula, Shenhe, Ganyu, kokomi)
3- Giving 5* to characters that aren't in the main story, weak with no battle experience or random filler characters(Sigewine, Nilou, klee, chiori, emile, mizuki, qiqi)
And 4* that should have been a 5* :
⚪The governor of Liyue "Ningguang"
⚪Fatui with a rough past and trained by arlechinno "Lynette"
⚪A general of the Watatsumi Army "Gorou"
⚪The captain of the crux "Beido"
⚪One of the 5 heroes of natlan "Ororon"
4- Improving QoL movement in the over world for all characters and revisiting extremely powercreped characters
5- Instead of random NPC, make events with characters/friends that we know.
6- Resin storage and unlock material domain dates. (7 days a week not the Tuesday, Saturday, Sunday BS)
7- Add another Endgame where we can use our built characters instead of adding barbie balatro mickey fun house content.
8- If hoyo didn't put our feedback into a shredder.
I would personally add removing the chronicled wish banner in favor of multiple banner runs. (or at least changing how the banner works) The chronicled wish banner is such a scam its like a way of the devs saying "oh we gave them a rerun though!!!" without actually giving them a rerun by using that scam banner. No pity carry over to the character event banners, still has a 50/50, and has STANDARD CHARACTERS ON IT.
honestly ningguang actually was supposed to be a 5* but since it was still early in the game you only had noelle as a 4* geo so they downgraded ningguang 💀
@@kirachandesuu so instead they made a zombie girl a 5 star
@@sanriokuu6557 the chronicled banner does have a pity carry over bruh
@@cerealwithwarmmilk To the next chronicled banner, not to another character event banner. I worded it wrong.
I still play Genshin, but it honestly feels like a chore now. I just do dailies, claim primos, maybe do some event mini games then poof. I really don't understand the hoyoshills sometimes, they're somehow blinded by the fact that the game is in the bad state now. I really love the game but it's becoming more and more disappointing. I was hoping 5.4 could have some good quality of life updates but we got Aether harem in a hot spring instead. Devs probably realized how childish Natlan's power of friendship is so they made a plan B for the gooners lol. I still believe Genshin will improve tho hopefully before 6.x comes.
So you 100%'d the game already?
@jex-the-notebook-guy1002
I still got some areas to explore but even exploration in Genshin feels like a chore for me. Some areas are locked behind quests, the stamina consumption, and climbing sucks. I even resorted to getting Natlan characters just to make my exploration experience good. Even that, there's just nothing much to do in the game for me.
Bro a game shouldn't feel like a chore, it should be a fun thing to do. A fun and different way to spend your time, you already have chores irl so why having more with a game?
At least thats my opinion 🤷🤷
@@bunnytokki_ keep on dreaming, genshit will never improve, why can't people see this even when it's in front of them.
I don't think Genshin is gonna improve
Eh. It's a mid game but so many people acting like WuWa is so much better, and for me it wasn't. If anything, WuWa highlighted the fact that I didn't need another "better" Genshin in the first place; I just don't care for another chore simulator like that again. Genshin gave me exactly what I was looking for at the time - a Zelda-like colorful world to relax to. Sure, after some time it all turned into a routine, but that was inevitable disregarding how devs treat their product and the playerbase. You won't stick to a single gacha game if you only care for the best experience possible, as new better games are bound to come out, you stick to what give you the best of an aspect you care about the most, and for a long time it was the world design for me. I absolutely loved Inazuma, especially Enkanomiya. At the end of the day, I'm glad I dropped both GI and WuWa, and I'm on a verge of dropping HSR and ZZZ too. After I do, I won't touch any gacha again, as my problems with all these games stem not from how devs treat their playerbase or how actively they add QoL features, but from the way gachas are designed in general. Feels good to be free.
with how absurdly fast the phlogiston bar depletes when u use the 2nd stage natlan special traversals its just so bad, especially when it involves vertical movement. they hate players zooming around so bad, but then places culuses so far up on top of every highest point available
Dude yes!!! Why is it soooo hard to put permanent mounts. I have Mauvika and I love her bike...for like 10 seconds...its sad. Just started Wuwa 2 days ago and let me tell you, traversal is 100x better.
@@Sora7d7 A bike that only lasts for a few seconds. Gotta be a shitty bike
Honestly, i like the stamina system, because it makes me think of managing my resources efficiently
The feeling we had in mondstad, finally climbing a hill after x attempt was way more satisfying than just infinite phlogiston
It's just my opinion ofc
@NewLink777 and this is why we dint have mounts...
@ look, i dont care about ur silly satisfaction, but at the very least they should have increased the stamina cap. literally zero effort whatsoever on their end
Staying with Genshin Impact felt like being in a domestically abusive relationship. I'm moving on now because I love myself and I don't deserve to be heartbroken again and again by Hoyoverse, even after all the time, effort, and money I've invested. Goodbye, Genshin.
Wuthering waves welcomes you
Wuwa is amazing, well... As long as you reach rinascita its where the game quality absolutely skyrockets
I'd love to play this game again if they add skip button and an option to mute paimon, it's like they don't respect player's time, I still love the exploration and puzzles despite low mobility, just let me skip the story
bro same that would be so goated and so simple :c
WuWa needs a proper skip too. None of this waiting for npc to move nonsense
Paimon isn't even the issue, it's the writing that's the problem.
It's like Hoyo doesn't understand how to write a human being anymore. It's just yap for ages to say what could be summarized in a single sentence, like Natlan had an utterly useless flashback that you had to play through...why? It added literally nothing and only served to pad out the already trash story.
@@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 lul u can skip like immediatly sorry but what do you mean exactly or are u just trolling?
@@Naugh20Fin there is a difference between pressing the skip button once and pressing it multiple times. I guess you never skipped the game.
I love how you spoke straight facts while still maintaining an objective standpoint. I'm also glad that you wish the game a better future ahead rather than trashtalking about it.
Well most of genshin is the devs just milking u for money
when have explored like 70-80% percent of the world getting primogems is very hard
and they do not even make the experience enjoyable
they also put newer characters (as he said) side by side like
mavuika and citali, and wrio and furina in the later banner which makes it impossible to pull chars which we like
If this keeps on going they might start running out of players sooner than expected!
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who would have expected milking your players dry without giving them relief was good? Hoyo i guess
So? As a f2p all you can do is save. All characters do rerun eventually. So save for who you want. However long it takes. Keep in mind Genshin now has a pity system for 50/50 losses and WuWa doesn't. So since "devs listen" maybe ask the devs to add it in? What I personaly want is more team slots. Sucks you can't have 1 for every element.
@@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 More team slots will just make the mechanics more complicated
And for saving primogems I am taking about pulling for characters that u like
I really wanted mavuika and got her. But I also like furina. That doesnot mean that I have to skip one to get another. I am just saying that if they gave the rewards more efficiently. like the 10 pulls we got in the second part of 5.3 could have saved me a lot when pulling for mavuika. And if u want to pull for the weapon banner u have to take the chance of getting the wrong one.
I am not saying that wuwa is perfect
But genshin could do better
@@AmethystArctik 1. We only need 1 team slot (Party in Genshin has 15) to cover all elements. I'm thinking doubling it to 10 would be good. There is space for it in the menu.
2. I was saving for Furina but i really wanted Arlecchino even though I had Hu Tao (i still don't use her. I used Yanfei instead). Got her very early (i risk my 50/50's so i only have to save for 90) at 9 pity on guarentee. Then i lose trying to complete the family collection with lyney at around 30 pity. From there i just keep saving till Furina's first rerun. You take risks or don't. It'll take a long while to accumulate limited characters. I have 12 now and i've been off and on the game with burn outs since 1.6.
3. I never touched the weapon banner. I prefer characters. I'm still doing that in WuWa.
4. Capturing radiance is so nice. Helps with saving.
Yeah I don't care for exploration either lol, unless it's something like NiER Automata. Some characters aren't even gonna have reruns due to chronicled wish banners being a thing.
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(I got Shenhe with Baizhu being my 50/50 loss, but got Prime Jadecutter anyway with the free 10 pulls they gave me)
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Even though it's all down to preference I only play gacha games for the female characters anyway, so I'm gonna pull for said females even if they're going to standard banner.
I’ve never played a game where the devs sabotage the MC as hard as they do in Genshin. That ruins the immersion for me. I’m convinced that dendro MC being pretty decent was an accident. And this crap they pulled with pyro traveler being awesome only in one specific boss battle just shows you how far the devs will go to make you open those wallets.
Should have been all trounce domains.
Afer all these years Genshin still can't switch between keyboard/mouse and controller in game, but somehow can use mouse in special event tab, and use keyboard when changing the team name. This means it's not a technical limitation. It's just pure laziness.
The only technical problem in genshin is the outdated engine dat makes every character’s model shitty, other than dat, theres no such thing as technical issues, but their willingness to apply it🤣
Let’s not forget Genshin is the only hoyo game that doesn’t have android controller support for some unknown reason they never bothered to implement it. Yet hsr and zzz has it. 🤔
Wuwa gives out 5 limited and standard wishes each patch, standard wishes should be more common than limited pulls because yk THEYRE STANDARD PULLS, and it really is a good thing they give standard wishes out because of the existence of the standard weapon banner.
And that's why they give so little. To get you to pull on the limited banner.
@@jex-the-notebook-guy1002at least they give I'm a contented f2p my genshin account only has like ten 5 star characters. Hawk thuii hoyo
@@Lelouch-Vi-Britannia- i'm at 12 plus 6 stamdard
0:25 nah HSR already going down the drain, ZZZ will follow the same path, maybe in a year, tbh already shows signs(enjoy while you can).
0:38 The reason why they don't invest back into their games to improve them after getting player feedback is because it's more profitable to invest into a new game instead and potentially grabbing the already existing player base + new players. It's an incredibly scummy and greedy practice, but yea, financially it does make sense. What it resulted in, and what they rolled the dice on, is that it pisses off a lot of their original core player base and I know some (myself included) who are unwilling to try any other games made by this company because of this.
Genshin is dead, seriously. The only people playing it are the ones that are already way too drown in the sunk cost to be able to quit it.
I tried playing again recently to see if i could get mavuika, after quitting 2 years ago. And ngl, the game felt even worse than when i decided to drop it. I guess we didn't knew better back then
that's what I thought like they not want to let it go because thy put too much money on the game
Genshin is more popular now than back then...
@@phones961O2 Yeah, that's why i tried to explain that by "dead" i wasn't talking about the number of players
So basically because you couldn’t get her it’s dead? 💀 bro im sorry to tell you this but genshin is more popular now than back then. It’s constantly getting new players every single week.
I used to think genshin leak channels would just simply die out and that people would stop playing genshin but surprisingly the community and those channels and banner sales are STILL going STRONG. People just want it to die so bad so they come to places like this where they can attract others who feel mutual about it hence why u got 31+ likes for saying it dead when it definitely isn’t.
@@Not_obligated2carebanner sales r doing great? Ye dats y they chose to put mavuika n citlali tgt on the same banner 🤣theres legit proofs for how the dev r endagered by the dropping sales n u plyrs still chose to deny it lmao
After playing Wuthering Waves, I will never play another gacha game with developers that treat their customers like shit. Hoyo will never see another dime from me until they shape up and actually start caring. Take a note from Kuro games.
Kuro care? Did they finally add more men to wuwa?
@@Daraenghwell hopefully, they did release a survey about our character preferences a month ago
this is definitely just a genshin specific issue lol. it probably has to do with the dev team. look at other hoyo games like zzz and hsr.
I don't think Genshin's team will ever change... they have way too many brainwashed fans, that's why it keeps generating millions even while being the weakest gacha in terms of user experience.
What’s even worst is Genshin devs are targeting CC who plays wuthering waves even if they don’t have any affiliation with them. Going so far as threatening to take down their channels and livelihoods. Absolutely despicable
Source : Ryuuku Sensei TH-cam Channel.
Is this real? Just to make sure tho
Source?
@@theunknownone2331 according to tectone, Mrpokke got his TH-cam account held hostage for 48 hours after he plays wuthering waves and criticise Genshin QOL compared to wuthering waves
@@MundaneCat idk man people who trust anything tectone says are a massive red flag to me, I thought people left that guy back in 2022 💀 literally only brainless NPC’s who can’t think for their selves watch that guy…
Is this the Neromeru incident?
If Hoyo wants people to stop crying just give 20 pulls and a resin free weekend i promise you won’t see a complaint for like 5 months
Or just make Dawei cry
20pulls n a rein free weekend? Oh my dat ‘so generous’
@ let's be honest there's no way to satisfy the player base even if they gave us 80 wishes right now a good amount of people will complain they lost their 50/50 another good amount are gonna complain about the characters on banner like there isn't 40+ characters and each patch can only have 4 5 stars and 6 4 stars they could double explorations rewards people would still complain the fact that I'm defending a billion dollar company lets me know how bad the other side is
@@Vynter98 It would be pretty damn generous since a resin free weekend would give you 48 hours of unlimited material and artifact farming. You could build every character in the game if you played nonstop. I'd take it. lol
Genshin “fans” will never stop crying, even if the devs do that. It’s all they do and they’re never satisfied
*How Genshin Impact Keeps Disappointing MANY Players in 2025
I'm not disappointed. Don't put things in my mouth. I'm not saying your video is bad, I'm NOT defending Hoyo, but I hate it when titles are written generalized just because it sounds better.
If you are an adult when first touching genshin you are saved.
But if you are underage when first touching genshin you are around uni or adult, whereyour core memory is doing genshin everyday.
These chuldren raised by genshin, and will defend their game to the last blood lol.
true, while genshin's biggest spenders are adults, its biggest defenders are kids
The first phase of 5.4 is DoA. Other than whales will whale on Mizuki a lot of people skip and wait for 6.0 for a free one. Also Sigewinne will probably be an instant skip as well. The only people will pull for her is whales or people who love her character. Some are saying that it’s for players to recover primogems but this will be the lowest revenue they get on this patch. If they think Furina will save the day they’re insane. Hoyo is in a rude awakening for the rest of new 5.x character other than Skirk, it’s rumored she’s going to an insane Cryo dps. I could go on with Iansan coming out later than she should’ve or Capitano is a sacrifice for Skirk but I don’t want to write all day.
I'm still waiting for a Geo character that lives in Sumeru's desert area. Female Catalyst like Ningguang or Female Bow user since Gorou is the only Geo unit with a bow. Still hasn't happened yet & I doubt it ever will...😔
*When exploration is slow, boring on Genshin:*
*Devs:* "BRO, DID YOU SEE THIS NEW CHARACTER? THEY'RE INSANE! SAY GOODBYE TO CLIMBING, THAT'S BORING... EXPLORING IS SO MUCH FUN WITH THIS NEW CHARACTER, YOU MUST PULL THEM NOW!"
*Genshin Players who play with skin mods and the no-transparency shader:* "Nah, I'll stick to climbing. At least I can enjoy the view :v"
What is a transparency shader?
Not to defend genshin but I like the capturing radiance because it prevents you from losing the 50/50 more than three times in a row. I got a guarantee Citlali just because I knew I’d get capturing radiance as I lost my last three. Now I’m playing her and lost six 50/50s in a row and wishing I had it there. I hope it comes there
Scam mechanic
So you lose 50/50 3 times in a row and thats good cuz radiant. U deserve better my guy.
PS. I lose 3 50/50 in a row in my 2 acc. Maybe Im crazy but since Fontaine I feel like its 25/75 acc.
My guy you have to try out other gachas that arent FGO and Genshin, thats the most scamming system ever made and they make you think its incredible until try another game
dude losing 3 times in a row is robery at daylight, capturing radiance didnt solve anything, is just a placebo.
what they need to do is increase the % to 60/40 in new characters and 80/20 for old ones.
a sane person would be very dissapointed losing 3 times in a row or you just have really low standars 🤷♂
This patch is a clear indication that Hoyo clearly still don't care about us
They only care about milking the player, or else they won't do the banner this way
It always amusing watching these videos. People always complain and say Genshin is dying and yet Genshin is still alive despite dying for more than 4 years and still successful. Maybe the issue isn't Genshin, disappointing, may the issue is that there is a vocal minority of supposedly 'hardcore' gamers who want a more 'let's say dedicated game experience than the casual, fun, cozy experience the bigger majority has.
Like in my opinion genshin is a fun game, with very low power creep that doesn't really incentive you to pull characters for its endgame content but rather because you actually enjoy them for story.
Its a game that if its honestly treated as a single player game where you aren't expecting to compete with the imaginary standard of clearing the abyss with 36 stars eachs time, you can enjoy yourself without burning yourself outgrinding cause you want to do big dmg.
Its like pokemon in a sense. Yes I can probably go and catch and use ou pokemon for a playthrough and steam roll the game, but then again I can just use a team of pokemon I like instead. It may be difficult or more annoying but its still something I can enjoy doing.
There is also the fact some people like a majority of casuals who only ever play genshin and no other gacha...just don't care about all these suggestions about what other gachas have.
Some people don't care about the rewards not being the same as other games because they are simply not playing other games to even care about.
A guy who plays only Mario isn't gonna give a crap if the new sonic game has shadow as a free DLC and extra stages, etc.
Maybe just maybe....Genshin is a good game and the majority of the community just sees it as such.
After all....why else would it have remained alive despite all the 'disappointments' why else is it still here despite not doing everything the supposed 'superior, more generous games' do.
Revenue goes down, Genshin is dying.
Revenue goes up, Genshin is scamming people.
We can't win against these guys.
Because Genshin has the most braindead community ever filled with brainless idiots spending fortunes on it and stupid kids who defend this game like if their life depends on it...
That's why Genshin is what it is today.
Bait title ✅ Low quality CC ✅ AI generated script ✅Glazing Wuwa ✅ No proof of decline ✅ CCs of certain game really can't stop doom posting, doing it all free too 😆
Hoyoshills protecting the multi-billion dollar company ✅
I love this new meta of people saying how disappointed and tired they are of genshin.
I felt that shit 3 years ago!
The best thing about playing Genshin for me now in days is logging out and jumping on WuWa. But what's just genuinly the saddest part is knowing that it wont change and it won't get better. Hoyo has shown for 5 years now that they don't care, it doesent matter what you think becouse they won't care anyways.
It's funny you say that, I felt the opposite on my first 2 months of playing WuWa. I couldn't wait to log out of WuWa's shit dailies, fighting, boring world, to go and do Genshin ones. And then I quit WuWa because it was boring, and the only thing it had going for it (combat), was too easy to be the only core part of the game.
Genshin is easy but it has so many different sides to it.
do u still play genshin? and how is it goin for you ?
The game never failed to disappoint me
no dropped it 2yrs ago. played other gachas and just watched it stagnate slowly. covid buff no more hehe
Nope I have it installed but haven't touched in a long while. You have better odds in gambling then getting the stats you want on an artifact and that alone puts me off playing.
I'm just a casual player and love the vibrant design and unique themes of the nations in the game. I will keep playing to experience the story and see more corners of the world.
Til I'm not really interested into any endgame-content I had no reason to complain about the mistreatment as of now but ofc I'm aware that they should be more generous to those who spend even more time and especially money for the game.
There will be a lot of other gacha to play in 2k25 so there was no use for me personally complaining about a game that is only one out of a bunch. As long as the story and aesthetic is appealing I'm pleased.
Im playing genshin impact but 90 % for the story not the game inself
They won't change it unless the Chinese community asks for such changes since it's their top revenue market. Why would they care about the voices of the minority when they don't earn much from them? Just like what happened to Neuvilette, Hoyo reverted back the changes then compensated us with 10 free pulls because the Chinese community had the option to file a complaint in the Chinese government.
In conclusion, if the Chinese community voices out their needs, Hoyo will make changes but since they won't, Hoyo assumes it to be fine so they won't change.
They dont even listen to chinese players anymore, the last time they did were due to nerfing neuvillette so people would pull for mualani, but the chineses were going to show hoyo's dirty trick to government and they went back
@@Onigumo. they still listen but the Chinese community doesn't have complaints, and even fine the 5.4 Livestream to be good, same as Japan, they like the design so they're having fun.
@@Aetherlali chineses dont complain much cuz they get a lot of stuff like special arts from bdays and free primogems, hoyo is stingy to global players and most people dont know the existence of such special rewards
@@Onigumo. That's my point. Since they don't complain, they won't change. It's business. Any company will focus on giving the needs of their huge market which is from China because they have a billion population there compared to western areas.
@@Aetherlali i see it now lol mb
pretty much my thoughts. as much as people hate the wuwa vs genshin comparison, i will never spend on genshin again, though i may play because im already invested in the story and characters. i do however plan on spending in wuwa and actively supporting the devs simply because they listen
at this point I really don't understand what is going on inside Genshin players' head when they keep boasting up about their 'beloved game' revenue being the top 5 every month, yet the quality they got from such a huge amount of money they have donated to Hoyo is not getting better.
They boast because people keep saying the game is dead when their revenue speaks otherwise . It's just to prove a point and not necessarily to gloat about their spending habits.
They are just annoyed because people like you can't stop hating the game to the point where you want it dead and that's why they make fun by saying stuff like " oh no genshin didn't make 100 million it's going eos very soon".
@@ahmedmubarak751 wow, bold of you to assume me as a hater that wants Genshin to be dead, despite the fact that I'm actually a day two player. But seriously, after I find out that hoyo only makes characters model with perfect lip-sync only for CN dub, making the rest (JN, EN, KR) feels weird because the lips have stopped moving but the voice line is still playing, it makes me realize how bad hoyo has treated its player by giving them not as much as the player have given to them. I once was a Genshin defender back then, always try to debunk every false theory thrown by haters, but now my eyes have been finally opened to the fact that Hoyo just cares about your wallet and not your experience while playing the game. it's been 4 years, yet they still can't make character model with perfect lip-sync for others dubs, despite billion of dollars the have earned compared to their competitors. Why would I be proud of a game that has the highest revenue but treats its players as milking cows.
The only reason we still play this crap is so we can see the story finish. When main story ends, there is gona be a huge genshin quitting.
They will make sure to extend it as hell
@@Disorder2312 Yeah... there is already some filler in next 2 patchs from leaks.
@@Bullminator And look at HI3rd.
oh boy, i sure hope they don't do something stupid like delay snezhnaya to extend the game with even more filler.
Speaking of NPC designs, I just remember when I was collecting HIA coins. There's this troubled NPC named Belf in Lumina Square, her expressions and gestures are one example of good design. She really looked and felt troubled by something. On-spot portrayal of someone in dillema. Small things like that, when done right, adds up to a great emersive experience.
simply because we complain, but no one actually stop playing and buying characters, as long as the game is making money, they will never change anything.
Its because they not afraid of losing any player. No matter what they do, their MASSIVE devoted player will accept it with with no resistence. Some are loud, but it have no effect if there are ppl who just accept or dont care what the company do as long as they can play the game. So they just do the bare minimun and kept the cost low. TBH not a bad stratergy in a business perspective. Weed out the loud one who are unhappy. Keep the happy one with the least effort. They can do this because of how many player they have.
How Genshin Players keep disappointing me in 2025.
A lot of characters are being overshadowed, and some people don't use them anymore.
These day I didn't do daily or anything all I do is wait for the last day of event finish everything and claim the reward and logout wait for the next event last day 😮💨
As long as people keep whaling on Genshin, nothing will change.
A player who pays gives the impression that they like the game however it is.
And the whales won't stop whaling.
Genshin's revenue needs to drop significantly in order for the devs to wake up, but it's only rising.
gee i wonder why. What can possbily be the reason a game company ends up making more money from its players than losing money?
@rushalias8511 because casuals enjoy what they are playing and won't let a few qol ruin what they enjoy ?
@ahmedmubarak751 I wouldn't say ruin more like they don't need it. They don't see the qol has anything big and ground breaking.
Wuthering waves and even other games from hoyoverse all have something that is better than genshin.
the only thing really keeping me going is the story of the characters and the music. Lantern rite story was great for one, at least for me. So my strategy in order to just enjoy the game is to fucking just enjoy the game when I can, and THEN play other games.
You are saying this as if Genshin doesn't have something better than all these 3 games too. Genshin has superior character design, world building, music and exploration to WuWa. Exploration/additional gameplay mechanics to HSR and ZZZ. The only thing all these games beat genshin in is slightly better combat (debatable depending on your personal preferences).
The issue with genshin is that every thing they give is so less,like at least make 1 certain limited banner character choice for every birth day 😭 some games does this plz hoyo
"Take my hand Genshin Players, walk with me as we leave this toxic world of Genshin and embark upon the journey to a better game"
Kazuha was pretty much a warning sign with locking QOL behind characters with giving him a double jump 😅
May I introduce Venti?
@@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 the game has rigged from the start...
At least before, you didn’t need Kazuha or Venti to explore, they just made it more convenient. Without the Natlan characters you’re glued to the lil dinos or else some puzzles, chests and oculi are impossible.
@@EclipticRaisin that's why they exist. To prevent you from being softlocked.
@@EclipticRaisinI don't quite get your point. You're saying that before, characters like Venti or Kazuha weren’t necessary for exploration, just convenient-yet for Natlan, you're saying the same thing? Wouldn't getting little dinos for exploration, rather than Natlan characters with similar convenience but no necessity, be a net positive going by your logic?
The biggest Dissapointment Genshin have is it's fandom who only complains.
don't forget lack of Natlan 5* tall male characters ((we hopefully Ifa will be 5* still questionable but people said he will be 4* like Ororon))
We are on version 5.X+ and still to get triple banners. As the game updates even further we will have to wait for reruns for over 3 years.
Crazy thing is this game still made 99 millions dollars in January
I feel like Genshin has improved in their rewards and events but hasn’t come close to other gacha games.
Billion doesn't mean good, but in this case, it means having a lot of Labdogs.
Played Genshin off and on for about 2 years, but pulled away from it fully way before Natlan came out. I was curious how well it was doing and I'm not surprised it's still raking in cash while at the same time still being stingy and lacking in quality compared to other newer options. While I didn't play Wuthering Waves as long as I did Genshin, I still had far more fun in that game and wish it the best. In fact sometimes get the desire to hop back in, but when I leave a gacha it's usually for good since I've already missed so many events and characters. I don't like juggling gacha games, so when Zenless came out I had to make a choice and eventually went with that one. It really astounds me how vastly different Zenless is compared to Genshin. You can 100% tell the devs absolutely love their game and their playerbase. There's even a fun little easter egg in one of the missions that has the developers literally thanking you for playing their game.
I think Genshin's dev team just needs some new blood. Hoyoverse really should put all that money back into the game that practically made the open world gacha genre. But as the saying goes - don't fix what isn't broke. So long as the playerbase continues to throw money at them, it doesn't matter how many complain while they do it. Nothing will change.
im still playing genshin, mainly because i spent way to much money on the game early on. i enjoy the story, but when the "end game" can be done with all F2P characters, and the world is boring, the game doesnt deserve as much effort as WUWA
Man I just need a skip button to skip the countless dialogues, I just want to play without wasting too much time every single quest!
Maybe the Mihoyo parameter is the revenue they made. Well in 2024 their revenue hit hard compared to 2023 so if this keeps happening then they might change eventually. We will see the effect on 2026 as 2025 is just start
i have a hot take, genshin is way better than hsr, and its way more f2p friendly.
Yes. That's why I left hsr faster than genshin
That's true
Tbh, you got a point. I don't think I'm going to come back to HSR for a long time
As much complains I have for Genshin, I agree With this.
Honkshit: Star Flop
bro just said hsr cares about its players in the first 30 seconds oof
Nah man there is no way you have laid eyes upon star rail in the last 2 months with what you are saying about it
they are doing this to only genshin because they want their player base to move to their new games
No, it's because their most braindead playerbase is in it and it brings easy money without any effort.
We all know what led to genshin's disappointment.. toxic positivity and sunk cost fallacy of no return
You guys can give this game hate all you want but I won't ya it does get annoying doing the same thing over and over but I play 24hours every single day so you haters can go where the trash is your probably all wuwa fans and honkai starrail and tower of fantasy so instead of giving the game hate go grow up and play a different game also you can comment and this and be rude but I won't care because I don't need to listen to haters or kids or teenagers
They don't give 10 pull every patch bc otherwise it would be meaningless to give same 10 pull every anniversary or Lantern Rite. "Be happy we give you these 10 pulls as a reward twice a year! Better than 3 pulls anyway, right?". But on the other side, they count every primogem they give us. And bc they're stingy like that, giving us a free 10 pull every patch, will lead to decreasing amount of gems we will get that patch. Either no region to explore or less chests, or more common chest instead.
I remember how happy i was when they said that Archon quest will give 500 primos now. But when i logged into the game and saw that that rewards was time limited i was disappointed yet again. It wrong of me to get my expectations from this company, really. Did i do the quest? No. Did i miss 2k primos from it? Yes. Why? Bc i don't like to be forced to speedrun the permanent content. It's fine if the Archon quest was limited as well, but it's not. So why the heck rewards for it are limited? To pressure my FOMO?! That's an illegal manipulation and i won't fall for it. My mental health is more important to me, than some primos. Hate the company for doing this bs! Really!
after of what they did on phase 1 which is two new characters in single phase i quickly migrated away from genshin to nikke because they are listening to their players
I will say this again.. if they don't want us to skip dialogue/cutscene. At least make the clickable dialogue text faster..
And I need artifact strongbox to be able to choose 'piece' I need to get instead of randomizing it with either flower, feather etc
The sanctify elixir exist, just need to go better
@krumi_hazuki1440 ik, it's not about the sanctifying elixir. It's the strongbox options to choose specific piece i wanted. Let's just say i need Time Sand piece on HoD, i don't mind RNG/Gamba the mainstat substat, i just need more chance to get that specific Time Sand piece. Just like how HSR does with Relic Remains
At this point, Genshin has become an example of how NOT to run a game for devs.
Idk they seem to be profiting alot in comparison to the devs that care lol
@ahmedmubarak751 money ≠ quality.
And for what? Having the worst community to exist? Lol
@@jacktheripper7935 Idk what kind of community you think you're talking about but the people you see on twitter are not the entire 60 million genshin players .
Alot of the genshin community are pretty chill and don't engage in whatever tribal wars you people are participating in and even more of those people don't even follow gacha games social media and are just playing the game because they like cute anime characters in a big explorable world heck most of them don't even know what meta is .
So just try to broaden your horizon and don't get stuck in the social media brainrot since it's not good for your health and just play and enjoy what you wanna play .
Pyro traveller's cons being irrelevant outside of that dragon fight is a huge SCAM
No! It is not even good in Natlan. Try to get one Pyroculus wth Mavuika. The traversal still sucks.
Hoyo : "but now that you got Mavuika, it sucks LESS, am I right?"
Opinion-wise, I am not surprised Genshin is not doing too well, I am disappointed I am led to believe that people are waiting for Genshin to fall. After 4 years of playing this game, I still enjoy it every moment, and I am waiting for it to rise again.
With genshin, it's even worse than just them being out of touch, because that imply if they're in touch they will do something but no, they're keeping an eye on the community VERY closely and watch EVERYTHING that happen, whatever they're doing right now is them ACTIVELY choose to do it, they don't do QoL because they choose not to do it, not because they don't know it's an issue.
Better yet, they will ONLY do any QoL once they have found a way to monetize it first, any QoL that has not been done yet because they have yet to find a way to sell you for it. For example, Why do you think the new Artifact Elixir thing is this bad ? Because they hide those elixir in the open world, and guess what happen when you do the exploration ? You feel bad because it suck, and guess which type of character they're selling in Natlan ? Exploration character, now you're more likely to go there and buy the character.
I bet my own ass on it, if they find a way to monetize the fucking loadout in the game they WILL do it, in 1 day with all 3 devs team working at the same time to make it happen
Genshin shills will always find a way to glaze and praise the game and would go out of their way to call you a "hater" or a "kuro bot." they deserve the treatment that hoyo gives them.
Genshin shills kind of deserve it at this point. Imagine being exploited to the point where you praise corporate greed that tricked into paying more and yet celebrating the company's revenue like it's your own achievement. That's just sad, man. LMAO.
I'm so glad I quit that game in 2022, It was so boring exploring even back then and the exploration was so annoying to deal with where you had to look up guides to 100% places because aside from a trash compass that had a cooldown for no reason, you had nothing that would help you find what you were looking for and some chests were locked behind hidden puzzles you had to find on your own. The end game was just a dps check and the characters that I liked in the 1.0 patch like diluc weren't good outside otherworld exploration and the artifact dungeons, the artifacts were always disappointing like coming back to the same dungeon to effectively farm them and eat shit when your pieces rolled into flat stats every day. Felt like I was overall wasting time instead of having fun. Wuwa showed me what it's like to have a game that is meant for players to have fun in, adding new content every patch that is actually letting you play the game instead of playing minigames like a little QA specialist and give them feedback for it. From the whole story skipping mechanic that wouldn't force you to sit through the dialogue to a thing I asked genshit for years to add which is a roguelike mode that is in Illusive realm, I started playing in 2020 first day and I saw so much potential, slowly getting more and more frustrated with the company behavior towards their product. I'll never touch any hoyoverse titles, nor will I ever interact with that company in any way. I'm pissed I got that Diluc skin, I didn't even get to see it most of the time because he wasn't meta in the abyss.
Tbh, HSR disappoint even more. Power creep there is insane. And storytelling in 3.0 is so bad. I started lantern rite, had 1st dialogue and Ellie I saw more animations in 1 dialogue than in 10 hour story.
I don’t even know what is worse: have low rewards but also have characters, who are relevant for next 2 years at least or have a lot of rewards, but being forced to pull new unit bcs I would have so much struggle to clear endgame. Even if my old characters have insane builds
Hoyo is scamming me of the need to pull newer characters by still making the likes of Bennet and Xiangling usable in 2025.
1.0 4 stars are a mistake 😆
Why people don't like Natlan? I think its cool and characters are amazing
I’m mostly just a bit sad about all this. I absolutely still love genshin and it just hurts me sometimes even if those facts are all true. I play all the popular anime gaccha games and enjoy them all but genshin is still the one I enjoy the most to this day and the only thing that I don’t like about it right now is a few of the character designs and that our we can’t make more condensed resin. And i dont see any wrong with genshin players enjoying other games more because through genshin, other games are able to shine with the things that genshin lacks and that’s something good for these games and the players that don’t enjoy genshin anymore.
When it comes to quality and fairness, in my opinion, Honkai star rail does mug worse than genshin. In my opinion, the best quality anime gaccha game right now is Zenless zone zero because it just does everything right.
And Wuwa does an awesome job aswell and is perfect for people that get tired of Genshin and want something new and fulfilling. I don’t even know why I write this comment honestly. But right now my personal enjoyment rating for those games
1.Genshin
2.Zenless zone zero
3. Wuthering waves
4.HS
But I’m also someone who is very emotional when it comes to comfort and characters. I’ve loved these characters in genshin for years now and I’m everyday looking forward to playing mostly because of them and I don’t even really care about the downsides genshin has at the moment.
I would like to hear others feeling about the gaccha games at the moment
That exploration part is off base.
Players have the options for saurians, and also, there are available exploration mechanics in every region, and there have been exploration mechanics in characters kits since the beginning.
Natlan's exploration isn't an issue.
Also, natlan has the most unique npcs in the game. I don't know why that wasn't mentioned.
I understand this is a criticism video but not acknowledging both sides of the coin of what Genshin has and hasn't done feels a bit disingenuously framed to a certain extent.
Utter than that I agree with most of these points.
6:58 Now I'm thinking about this... Why didn't they add something similar to Torrent in ER? We have MC, we have Paimon (basically Melina but silly, infantilized and sometimes hella annoying). Hell, they could've just given us a magical hoverboard or whatever for that matter after completing Mondstadt's quest. But Hoyo will not do that as it will render Mualani and similar to her characters useless.
They should've kept their original 5-year plan.
I really love genshin for everything it is. While i do wish that they gave more rewards it's still very enjoyable to me . The world exploration the art the characters the puzzles the world quests and especially the archon quests . Exploring mindlessly is just so much fun 😊 I also love saving and pulling for my favourite characters and love building them. I don't focus much on damage or pulling for meta . Genshin is just so beautiful...the map the places the view everything is just perfect .
I play Genshin and ZZZ, boiling it down, it really does feel cheaper to play ZZZ. I had built enough polychrome to get Miyabi. Then through all the daily login rewards and all the events, I had enough to get Astra without deciding to drop $30 to get enough polychrome to get her.
the Chinese players will never stop spending money on this game, 70% of their profits are there, they well never lesson
If you dont like just stop playing,western always complain
Oh yeah, so instead of criticizing something in hope to improve it, let's just abandon it...
It's because we like it deep down that we complain.
If it's to say s***, then say nothing, thanks.
@@jacktheripper7935
Do you actually like it or are you just having? Because these days there are alot of haters who love to wear the mask of "oh but I actually care and want the game to be better" when in reality alot of them wants the game to be dead just like a certain bald man .
@@ahmedmubarak751 I played the game for more than 3 years and deep down, I liked it and still do but what happened with Dehya was the last straw because I couldn't bear how much Hoyo spits on their players.
And seeing people defending Hoyo's scummy practices, pisses me off even more.
Because what I hate the most is not bad games, but those with wasted potential/corrupted by greed and those who defend it.
I want to say Please stop be an ungrateful player,this is f2p game,hoyo dont force you to buy/play this game,play at your own risk
I guess im not as pissed about genshin as i could be since i play HSR as well
My account in Genshin is so bad that I have lost 92% 50-50 and it always go to hard pity. I got only Xilonen C0 in 250 pulls not even C1. After that in that much pulls you can atleast buy resonance chain from wishing game currency in WuWv but not in Genshin. That's why playing Genshin gacha feels much worse and is less rewarding in terms of the time we spent.
I'm sorry but how exactly the exploration gimmicks of Natlan characters become "useless" outside of Natlan? Their skills are being blocked or what? Valid criticism is one thing but this one needs to stop.
Yall haters on Natlan, i like it😢
Genshin was made in a way that makes you spend as much time playing it as possible.
Life span of players are expected half a year to a year. Played genshin around nov 2020, and finished the game for 4months, so i stop playing in 2021. Just online every other year, when update comes. Right now, i went back last year, and already consume all contents (except tcg) and would go into hiatus again this month until next year. For me, its just a game of enjoyment where no attachment of feelings involved. I just love the music and reaction base combat. If i get bored, then, i close the game for a year, then check back.
Hot take I love genshin
Thank god i haven’t wasted a fortune on this game. In-game purchases are so pricey and not to mention I have lost many banner characters to 50/50. I might actually stop this game cuz: 1. The developers are SO lazy to upgrade the character animation. I would appreciate it if they add animation/poses every 5 new characters to add more depth & dimension to existing chars 2. Absolutely no character/lore development for old existing chars.
Lol if you hate the game dont like the game just leave it and play other games . Why are u making a fuss about this showing jealousy about a game success and for views . Everyone now are rage baiting and getting triggered as genshin got 100 M lol . The real genshin players like me and everyone whom i have coop with in the game all are quite satisfied with the game . For me i only want a skip button for world quest in genshin and rest everything is fine .
Genshin is a good game,but the amount of mistakes that can be easily fixed is a lot
Genshin isn't bad, but is a waste of potential.
They had record profits for Jan 2025. Did you not get the memo?