I put a BRAND NEW (really) transmission in my Porsche 928! Porsche 928 Revival - Part 14
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- This has been a long time coming! HUGE HUGE HUGE transformation! We also did a lot of the electrics and even some of the suspension too! We are now WAY beyond spending anything that is within this car’s value!
Let me show you what we’ve done and how it drives now!
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Right choice sticking with the auto trans.
Thanks! This may prove to be the minority view but it’s the one I am happy with!
@@JAYREAD Maybe, but considering it;s a GT rather than a sports car, auto is just as appropriate as a manual trans, possibly more so as day to day driver. Look forward to the next vid.
Smart & wise decision not to pursue a manual conversion, which would’ve been very costly & much more complex.
I too explored the idea of going down this route many years ago, but after talking to a Porsche 928 specialist who quickly convinced me not to.
The 928 is a very complex, well engineered car & with the layout of the rear transaxle set up, there is a lot more work involved in such a conversion which = very expensive.
It would be best to sell & buy a manual 928, but they are quite few in between compared to the majority being the auto slug box. Although the torque from the V8 kinda suits the auto, but unless you’ve driven a manual 928, you will not know what you’re missing.
Performance wise, would recommend a nice custom free exhaust system including headers.
I learned a lot from you and the mechanics you visit on your videos thanks a lot
He definitely keeps his cars right and we’ll kept
No doubt a manual would be a great 928 driving experience, but no doubt about it, replacing the auto trans with a new unit was absolutely the smart move! ENJOY!
The passion felt by a car enthusiast and cost involved is hard to comprehend by those not into it. But that's okay, as we're in a world unto our own and that's fine. Keep on keeping on! 😁
Hear hear! Will do!
Amazing ! You look so happy in the video.. the journey of bringing an old car back is so much fun and rewarding 🎉
Precisely, my friend! Nailed it there on all fronts!
I have owned my 87 for almost 10 years now and @ 160K plus miles, have been fortunate enough to have purchased one without all the deferred maintenance, which is by far the number one criteria when looking for a 30 plus year old car. Spending that money up front for the will keep you from spending it chasing each and every issue. I have been able to enjoy mine from day one, with the only downtime being either for routine maintenance ( 2x tb/wp's) intake refresh, suspension, motor mounts, recent radiator swap (go with the CSF) a/c upgrade, alternator upgrade, super clamp and torque tube bearing replacement ( Black Sea Engineering like yours) tires, brakes, rotors, fuel lines (Greg Browns are best) and a host of other small repair items mostly age and wear related.
My wife and I have no issues driving daily or long distance in what is arguably one of the best designed/engineered Porsches ever made. I feel for you and can only say that once you finally iron out these "pre-existing" conditions the journey will be well worth it. It also help if you can DIY some things and save some $$'s.
Good luck and I will be following your progress.
Great post! I agree with you wholeheartedly except to say… there is value in the journey. This is a theme of my videos here insofar as the journey is more rewarding than the destination. I’m loving it and we are by no means done! Great post!
Awesome video Jay. Like my 1985 928, I've spent more than it will ever be worth. But, it's the joy of restoring a classic Porsche to driving condition. I have six other Porsches and this is still one of my favorites to drive. Probably because I've sorted so many issues and like you still have a few to more to address. Keep up the great videos I enjoy watching them. Your an inspiration to all of us 928 owners who have invested our time and money into these under appreciated cars! And they really do drive nice!
Thanks so much! I appreciate that! I am loving the journey with this car. I think I’ll be bereft if I ever finish it! Haha!
Agree. - the joy is in the journey. My 964 is in nice shape, but as time and budget allow I keep addressing the aging bits to keep it great to drive.
It's like we both have a feeling in our guts about "but... surely that's too much" when it comes to what we originally had in mind to invest. Yes, I definitely have a limit, and I've used your figures and others' when it comes to making my best guess. But my 928 S4 was my father's. And it might take awhile, and it might not be back to tip top shape. But it'll be in GOOD shape. And it'll have been worth it. And yours is too. Appreciate you bringing us along this journey.
Hey thanks Alex! My MG was my Dad’s. I know how you feel. ❤️
It's not cheap but consider what new cars cost. If you love the car it makes sense. Well done.
Thanks!
Matt must love you, as evidenced by the grin on his face. But the joy on your face is priceless. Show us sometime how the new transmission performs when you put it in “sport mode” and wind it out selecting your own gears.
Matt and I have been working together for a good few years now. He’s literally the greatest. Yes, we’ll get to that. Just taking it careful for the first few hundred miles. Luckily I have a road trip coming up down to Amelia Island and Radwood!
The S2 acceleration is really aggressive. Great to see you so pleased and experiencing the car as intended from the factory! Very few people did/do when they bought these cars cheap and neglected and then freaked out on the costs and work involved to bring them back to good health. Enjoy!
Thanks so much! ❤️
Truly enjoyed this - and you’re converting me into a 928 fan. There is nothing more automotively satisfying than bringing an old Porsche back to life. The underbody view of the new gearbox and control arms is terrific, and I am so glad you’re keeping the car as Porsche built it. Hope you have a great time with the 928 at Amelia.
Really happy to hear that! Thank you! The 928 is a fantasy! Truly wonderful vehicle!
Good to see you are finally spending some big money on your third porsche. You must really like this one. I subscribed.
You resubscribed? Where did I lose you?
@@JAYREAD when you sold your 996. But you caught my attention again with the 928.
Great update Jay and it was definitely worth it. Agreed about the deferred maintenance and they are so much better when all caught up.
Quite right, Mike! Did you see the bit at the end? You got a mention! Can’t wait for that part!
Bravo Jay ! Can’t wait to go for a spin together ! I think you made the right choice keeping it original !
Thanks mate!
I had a 1984 928S 5 speed, loved it... might have to get another 928!! Great video Jay!
Do it! Haha! Thanks very much!
Congrats!!! Really enjoying following the progress!!!!
Thank you! Happy to hear that!
Very pleased for you getting the car to a state where you can enjoy it
The bill may not go down well, but open it will driving
Exactly! It’s not about the money any more. Too late for that! Haha! ❤️
Hi Jay you are becoming Mr 928 in the UK. Following your experience I think I am going to do a Torque tube rebuild on both my cars. Hope you get a chance to post again soon although driving her is way more important!
Hey thanks John! Oh yes, more coming! Working on one now but it’s a slow burn because there’s much to do! Stay tuned!
Love the joy you had driving the car. Well done! Great to see you slowly but surely working through it.
Unfortunately, the videos have reaffirmed my doubts about buying one even though 928’s are great cars when not neglected!
Ha! Yes! Not for the faint of heart!
Well done, Jay!! Love seeing it get back to its former glory.
Thanks so much!
Bringing back great memories on the 1980 928 manual I had. At 86k on the odometer in 1992, was not many alternatives back then even with an independent shop…it was a Porsche part or a Porsche part$$$$. The transaxle synchronizer issue, a short in that wonderful foot tub panel…we parted company…but will never forget that driving experience nor the sound of that aluminum V8 howl…was not the fastest, but such a smooth driving experience…thank you and amazing efforts! Continued Good luck
The Porsche 928 is one of the few cars that is not dated. It still looks contemporary. I have a 2023 Ford Mustang GT 6 speed (black, chrome badging). I plan on staying on top of the maintenance and not letting it slide into decrepitude.
Great decision made on emo/ratio! 🎉🎉🎉 Cheers and enjoy Jay!!😃😃😃😃
Thanks! ❤️
Congratulations!!!
Hope to see you at RadWood!
Will you be at Werks Reunion as well?
Oh that’ll be great! Yes, I’ll be at both! See you there!
Great video! Have been really enjoying your 928 journey. Look forward to a cost of ownership video, as I am trying to decide between a 928 project or trading in my daily M240i for a new M2. I’m less than 8 years to retirement and I want a 928 before I die.
Thank you! Do the 928. The M2 is soulless (but reliable and with a warranty!) in comparison! Let me know what you decide! I’m over on Instagram.
Nice Jay, congrats!
Cheers Jaap!
Hi Jay. Well done to you for improving your car - and setting aside the cost compared to value of the car. I am on a similar journey with my XJ-S - I just love the car, don’t plan to sell it ever and enjoy “investing” in the car - the return being pleasure of ownership and the driving experience rather than financial. This is the first old car that I have renovated - the key thing that I have learnt is to be very selective about who works on the car and not to expect a single garage to be the best at repairing / improving all aspects of the car - I will probably end up with 4 or 5 specialists that I trust who will each attend to different aspects of the car. I have always liked the 928 - a great looking, iconic, powerful car of its era - and so I am glad to see your enthusiasm for looking after your car. Keep up the good work and I look forward to more videos. Peter
Oooh XJ-S. That’s on my list. My Dad had two of them and I adored them. I’d really love a manual conversion of one. Hmm. Maybe one day!
Funny I’m realizing I bought a Porsche 944s2 from last August. Great guy and family. Congrats on the work being completed!
He most definitely is! Thank you!
6 inch Porsche sunroof is the best because it’s ahead of your head, on an old 911 they are essential to demist on a winters morning
Good on you. I know the buzz. I have a 928s 1986.5 and it is my daily driver. I kick it over everyday around 5 times a day. Your gear changes sound clean. Engine sounds good too. Personally, I do not find 928s expensive, all cars are expensive. When you go to a mechanic, it is expensive. Next step air con. :)
Quite right! 💪
I’m with you on this. If you can afford it, it should be about what you want to do and enjoy. I’m in probably similar to you on my 1981 928s, but I enjoy getting back to the condition I want it to be. Love it!
Glad to see you stick with the auto trans, it really suits this car when it’s working. I had a similar problem with the rear hatch as you (hearing the actuator go off but hatch not unlocking). It turned out to be misaligned- mechanic realigned it properly and it started working. So hopefully yours is also something similar.
That’s very helpful actually, thanks! We’ll get it there!
Is great to see you again and so happy. A new transmission! Wao, has been a while. Love those 928 and is great you are restoring her. I recently sold my 911/996 and getting ready to pick up a 987.2 09 Cayman with very low miles in absolutely glorious condition. Got really lucky. As always great content. Julio
IMO the 987 Cayman is the best value Porsche on the market. 987.2 is the best one too! Congratulations!
Great video, Jay. You are going the path of the 928 with your eyes (financially) open and being very honest about it👍
I have a 997.1 C4S and in nine years spent twice of what I bought it for. In for a penny …
Thanks Dag! Yes, this isn’t about the money any more. This is now about the car and me. ❤️
Well done Jay. You've past the point of no return so keep it going. Well worth it in the end.
Cheers, Andrew! Yes. Past the point of no return. That’s it!
Hi Jay. Wow, an NOS gearbox was available! Congrats! Your face says it all! One thing I must emphasise. Make sure that you take progressive photos and keep receipts (which I'm sure that you are meticulous with) and try to increase the insurance value of your vehicle factoring your upgrades. I have recently had a no fault accident and my car was a total loss. Luckily I could have removed all the upgrades that I did (wheels, stereo etc), otherwise I would have taken a bigger loss. And ... no its not a 928 thank god! The car is looking beautiful! Looking forward to your next vid! Cheers
Yes! Very helpful and good advice!
Hi Jay,
Good timing re your progress on your 928✅
You hit the “nail on head” Re the Joy of driving the car,they are a true GT touring car,regardless of being a money pit,and it’s great you have a motivated mechanic
That helps heaps🥳
Thus far with my car it’s been problematic with finding someone motivated,and does the job properly,and that’s why I’m going the LS 6.0 conversion
Like yourself,I had considerable work carried out on the engine etc
Euro spec cams,msd headers etc,powder coated intake runners etc,and when the ran it boogied nicely ✅
Then it would stop(electrical gremlins)😩
No one has been able to sort it out,and we call it (it could be this or that)
Consequently the LS engine is where I’m at
The car is really a mint example for a 1981 110 miles from new,Platinum,full leather ( black) and a manual,on Cup rims and Nitto tyres
I have new Koni shocks,Springs,and it will sit an inch lower,which gives a nice stance✅
So will see where it goes Jay,one the major holdups for me,has been my health
Bi Lateral lung replacement!
Happy motoring Jay
Cheers
Frank
Frank, stay healthy, my friend! I really hope you will be OK! How did you find the MSDS headers? I think this is where I might go with mine next.
Good man…love it…respect.
Thanks!
I hope it works out for you
It was such a beautiful car.
Thank you!
An "NOS transmission"?!
I wouldn't have thought that was possible.
Yup! ❤️
I wanted one back in the eighties but they had the reputation of expense even then. I even passed on a 15k one owner five year old
Thanks for posting. Great progress. Do you know the brand and spec of the transmission fluid used?
Yes! Castrol Transmax Dex/Merc. Amazon has under pt #03520C and Auto Zone has under Pt #$159FCB.
Pretty cool having a new transmission in your 928. How did you come to find a new one all these years later?
Hey thanks! I was lucky to find someone with a stash! Man, it needed it though!
Your son's name is Lou Read??? Well done, Jay!
Yes! I’m not the only cool one in my family!
@@JAYREAD Taking a drive on the wild side, Jay!
While the firewall mod is true, the manual swap pays for itself many times over. No one is going to care it was an automatic with a manual swap, just give them all the automatic parts and they can change it back. I will tell you it's more than just the firewall though, you need a different crossmember for the gearbox along with a few other things. It's still a better car every day of the year as a manual, and you will get your money back several times as long as you don't get too ripped off buying a manual box (likely).
Too late now. I’m committed to an automatic life and I’m loving it! Perhaps I need a manual car AS WELL?!?! Haha!
SUPER! Great result. Interesting!
Thank you!
You are so lucky where you are !! In South Africa we had Carreira Motors and lucky for the owner he retired now as they were a workshop of scammers. I have a manual 1983 928S and I am thinking of taking the mechanical fuel injection out to convert it to electronic injection with spitronics. What do you think ?
I have no idea about that, I’m afraid! Couldn’t hurt though, right?! ❤️
Great video. Where can i buy the super-bearings?
Thanks! DM me on Insta and I will let you know. ‘Jayreadyoutube’
Did they check the torque tube drive shaft clamp at the flywheel end? I am sure you are aware of the problem.
Yes! They did and literally no wear at all! I am lucky!
Love it!
Hey thanks!
Brilliant! Where were you able to source a NOS 928 gearbox?
DM me on Insta and I’ll tell you!
Jay,
Great video. Could you give me some info on where you came up with the transmission, and the parts for the torque tube? And maybe how much that transmission was? I am planning on having my auto trans rebuilt as I'm doing an LS swap in front of it with 600 hp, but if there are more NOS transmissions out there, that might be a better way to go. I think I was quoted on the rebuild around 2,500.00. It's not to bad. A guy in California that does all the Mercedes transmissions. Thanks
Can you DM me on Insta? Happy to give you the full info, no worries. Look for jayreadyoutube
Did you do transmission mounts? That smooths things out a lot as do motor mounts
Certainly did!
So this is original Porsche transmission or some modern fitting box?
Original Porsche transmission.
I need a new gearbox also,,, mine shifts like crap. no kickdown car is a slug....where did you get the new transmission gear box from?
My kickdown had to be adjusted in order to work effectively. Perhaps yours does too? DM me on Insta if you want to chat it through.
Now just get the underside dry ice blasted and all of it will look new!
That’s not a bad idea at all actually! Hmmm. Hadn’t thought of that!
What’s the name of the shop? I’m located in CT as well.
Matt is Collector Car Services of Danbury, CT. He’s the BEST!
Jay, if you're running a sweep on latest costs I'm in @ 8,750 bucks! 😀
Hahahahahaha! WAAAAAAY low, John! Not even in the ballpark actually!
@@JAYREAD Sorry to hear that. Trying to be optimistic. What was the prize anyway?!!! 🙂
@@johnmcdonnell81 haha! It’s OK actually. As I said in the video, this is no longer about cost but love for the car and brining it back.
Did you keep the original automatic transmission?
It’s going back to the guy I bought the new one from so he can rebuild it.
So.... whats with the final reviews?? is it worh having as a ...mmm sort of refurbished owner???
I’ve over spent something like 50 grand. I don’t ever plan of selling it either.
Common Jay your lagging behind me.
I’m catching up! Haha!
I’m not far behind you. Initial cost of putting the car back on the road $AUS11,000.00, rear suspension $AUS 4,000.00, engine wiring loom, full front suspension rebuild and replacement engine fan $AUS13,000.00. Still more to go but car just keeps getting better to drive. 1994 GTS auto.
@@eddieselman8942 solidarity, brother!
Love it
Thanks!
My brain went " okay he bought a new car"
Ha! NOPE!
Yup, yup, yup… 😂
❤👍
Epic…
Yeeeahhh!
So you bought a “boat”.
I’m not the U-boat commander though! BOOM. ❤️
👍👍👍🦘🇦🇺🙃
Did you replace it with another 4 speed porsche transaxle or did you do a 6/7 speed corvette transaxle?