As an honorable mention, I think Silent Kill is also one of, if not the best, buff/debuff control variants in the entire game. Her huge 25% chance per hit to remove opponents buff and remove self debuff is unbelievably useful. Her only downside is weaker base attack, but her purpose has never been to be a sweeper, so she’s still an incredible variant to me
Pretty cool list. As a honourable mention of sorts, Claw & Order's ability to reset debuff timers makes her pretty darn useful, as Ms Fortune has quite a few debuffs in her kit that she likes to keep on. You can even pair her up with Red Velvet and eliminate the latter's main weakness of having an incredibly defensive stat spread, while constantly resetting the Hex, making most fights a breeze. You'd still have to watch out for Marquee Abilities and Signatures that can activate from other enemies on the bench though. (teams with double Model Leader/Rose Tinted for example)
@@w4270 It's less consistent, but yes, Shadow Puppet would also be a good alternative to that particular setup. Shadow Puppet has the advantage in that she can heal herself with Miasma while also not having to rely on crits for her to do her job.
love the list. I think Phantom Thread deserves her spot on the list as one of her best offensive variants. Personally I like Vaporwave Vixen over her as a better all-rounder character. Good defender, good offender, meter control for standing still. I just find myself using her lots. I think it doesn't deserve the spot, but Epic Sax is my first evolved diamond and I love his kit. I cannot wait to get Surgeon General!
Tier list amazing as always. Can't get enough of these beginner guides and feeling like a lvl30 player again ahaha! Personally I would include also Bloodbath. Probably, because I've grown such a big attachment to this variant (since she was my first gold). Countering bleeds along with removing and applying buffs makes her such a powerhouse. Not to mention her stats are aimed for attack... Although she's a great defender too, nothing better than forcing a fighter in Rift. Am I right? Wishing all people a good day
I would add Weekend Warrior and Silent Kill in main list and in Honorary Mentions: Diva Intervention, Bloodbath, Dread Locks, Claw n Order, That's All Folks, Untouchable and Poltergust.
It is really good list, but as an annie main I would add here timeless hero because she can gain buffs really easliy and endless starpower for me it is super op.
LOOL I had this feeling that I might be sending mixed messages. But I just had to HAHA. Defensive variants are generally not great early on to invest but I feel like I have to mention these two.
Definitely should try follow this up with another 10 or so Gold variants that are good. Because they're the most abundant class in the game, and all have some simple/available abilities to take advantage of. Two I can think of on the top of my head are Buzzkill and Princess Pride. They're actually pretty easy to use and don't depend on accuracy to activate their signature ability.
I'm surprised Dragon Brawler wasn't on here. I mean his SA1 gives you 5 stacks of precision whenever you enter hype mode. Not only that, but he also gives you 100% increased crit damage while in hype mode, which is huge for attacking. His SA2 gives you 50% blockbuster meter whenever you beat an opponent with one means Tier 3s happen a lot and you can steamroll easily.
Tbh I always feel like Rainbow blight is a little underrated Very nice atk stats for a double, ability to heal and increase damage as well as inflict solid debuffs makes her a great offense in my opinion The double prestige ability works best with her and Jawbreaker, and you have the marquee that only adds to the debuff power house For a new player that happens to pull her, they get not only a powerful offense, but also a way to cheese through the "inflict x debuffs" match challenges without doing anything For some people she is outdated, but I never felt that way and I'm happy with investing in her
I remember getting Surgeon General and wasted no time investing her I'm currently poor in the game rn so I haven't invest into her fully but she's proven to still be a powerhouse of a support and is currently the strongest Valentine I have rn
Great mix of attackers and defenders. But I must say Vaporwave Vixen Fukua > Phantom Threads Fukua. VV is a much stronger and reliable attacker AND defender.
I disagree, Phantom Threads attack is much better and she's an enrage gainer. Her attack is literally third highest among fukuas, without enrage stacks. And she's buff removal. Plus, with blessings and healing she's more reliable and can revive. Vaporwave Vixen? She easily gets miasma, which is good health drain cheesing tactic and meter control. And she's better defender, I only agree on that part.
I agree with better defender but attacker is just kek moments VV can’t remove buffs VV can cheese a lot of PFs with ease and do some rift nodes but she has little potential in rifts and a lot of the meta defenders and rift modifiers has buffs that are extremely annoying or force you to bring a buff remover
Didn’t know Surgeon General was that good, I never really used any of my Val’s due to not playing her in 2nd Encore but now that I know what she can do I’m glad I still kept my neglected shiny variant of her!
If that happens, I would probably see either one of these: Model Leader(Annie) Beast King(Beowulf) Stand Out(Eliza) Fly Trap(Painwheel) Neuromancer(Painwheel) Splitting Image(Fukua) Summer Salt(Parasoul) Overclocked(RoboFortune) Plot Twisted(Squigly) Love Crafted(Squigly) Tres Chic (Valentine) Assassin's Greed(Valentine)
Pretty neat list,though i must say i kinda feel weird for you to not just add an honorable mention,like y'know my girl Moonstruck,Persona Assistant,Poltergust,Diva,Bloodbath and such,but hey it is what it is :D
What would you say about Final Fang valentine? I personally love her because she can easily copy buffs from opponents and grants them curse, and if they have an active debuff already, she has a decently high chance of stacking up multiple if not tons of debuffs at once. Do you like Final fang?
And what about Blitz & Glamour? She have access to inverse polarity which can just burn enemy's HP down with heal. And also she can avoid debuffs with immunity. Also, as a Cerebella, she have access to armor break which can be really helpful. Definitely must invest.
When I began playing, my first shiny was Evergreen Evil. Later on I got a super early Surgeon General AND then I got a shiny Bioexorcist. That's a beginner kit!
I'm upset that Diva Intervention didn't make the list. She is a very very easy gold to use, constantly draining health and block buster meter with no effort at all.
Silent kill Should be on this list. Although her attack stat is slow her signature ability is probably the best in the game. She also makes up her low attack with a her kit having a ton of bleed moves. She is not only mandatory late game (like fiber and blue screen) for rifts but she's also pretty solid in prize fights.
@@llacrimosa depends on what you want. Surgeon prevents failure while silent kill rewards success. If you find yourself wanting immunity and final stand for your offensive fighters go surgeon, if you want buff removal, debuff cleansing, and Regen on self go silent kill.
Good list! Learned some new things today. I'd personally include Rainbow Blight, Vaporwave Vixen, or Epic Sax, but I do have some selection bias as I only pulled some of the variants on your list in late game and instead had these earlier on. I never get tired of these three buff-stackers.
I think mean one deserves an Honerable mention the ability to convert buffs to debuffs and easy access to enrage and great marquee ability the special moves one she is a force to be recond with
I think it's funny that both Primed and Princess Pride are like offense/healing versions of each other and they're both effective. But personally I still find it easier to use Black Ops and it's stupid how easy it is to shut down opponents buffs generating so even if she can't make them bleed, it makes it easy to prevent them gaining buffs so just basic combos are all you need. Mine is only 3k in score but I find it easy to kill 10k+ fighters so long as I can stack combos and tears. Primed is still stupidly strong though, enrage can be busted if you stack 5 enrages onto her.
Harlequin Phantom thread Immoral fiber Evergreen evil Red velvet Primed Mean one Blue Screen Bio Exorcist Surgeon general While I agree with this list, I believe claw and order should in fact be on this list probably over fiber. Claw on her own stands on her own with an asinine Signature ability. That being said. Mean One 110% should be on this list. There’s no question there. And Bio is incredible at any point. I got her after two years same with phantom bio still hasn’t fallen off
Yep she's pretty decent. All offensive non-Diamond Doubles pretty much relies on Chaos for the most part which is really powerful. Rainbow Blight is no different.
She’s pretty outdated Her kit revolves around changing element yet chaos wants double to keep being one element until no longer needed Her atk is also 10k
I love phantom but honestly I love vixen. Miasma doubles as meter control and helps you weather tougher enemies. From the perspective of enemies with high HP and I face annoying enemies such as assassin greed, model, res evil I'd chose vixen over phantom. Don't get me wrong tho, phantom is god
Hey Zeow!! I started Skullgirls not too long ago and I find you videos to be VERY informational and helpful for me! It would mean the world to me if I could be friends with you on Skullgirls and maybe play with you a bit? Even though you may not even see my comment- this is still worth a try ^^'
Ive been wondering what I could do to make my time thief perform to her best ability do u have any videos or recommendations for compatible teammates for her?
Unfortunately I do not have any videos on her. Time Thief's recovery ability is her main use. It can be used in Rift Battles against a lot of reflect damage fighters. It really comes down to skill to use her well.
I am level 17 and got phantom threads fukua and red velvet elizia both on same day from premiere relic i thought the game just gave you some weak gold in starting to keep you going 👀
im a starting player and i just wanted to ask, what are the differences between some variants? do some do more dmg, have diff kits or something like that? thanks :)
ik this is a 6 month old video but I think vaporwave vixen is also the best gold, im not sure if she's beginner friendly but I dont regret ever investing in her. I might diamond her when I get more gold fukuas.
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I honestly didn't expect him to ever make this video. It's good to see that he did!
Yep!
Memento Mori
As an honorable mention, I think Silent Kill is also one of, if not the best, buff/debuff control variants in the entire game. Her huge 25% chance per hit to remove opponents buff and remove self debuff is unbelievably useful. Her only downside is weaker base attack, but her purpose has never been to be a sweeper, so she’s still an incredible variant to me
Pretty cool list.
As a honourable mention of sorts, Claw & Order's ability to reset debuff timers makes her pretty darn useful, as Ms Fortune has quite a few debuffs in her kit that she likes to keep on. You can even pair her up with Red Velvet and eliminate the latter's main weakness of having an incredibly defensive stat spread, while constantly resetting the Hex, making most fights a breeze. You'd still have to watch out for Marquee Abilities and Signatures that can activate from other enemies on the bench though. (teams with double Model Leader/Rose Tinted for example)
Would shadow puppet work with that strategy as well? Although its only 5% chance from her signature ability
@@w4270 It's less consistent, but yes, Shadow Puppet would also be a good alternative to that particular setup. Shadow Puppet has the advantage in that she can heal herself with Miasma while also not having to rely on crits for her to do her job.
@@ninjakidkat12 That’s really good to hear. I’m currently investing in shadow rn and usually running sketchy in the backline to curse lock opponents
love the list. I think Phantom Thread deserves her spot on the list as one of her best offensive variants. Personally I like Vaporwave Vixen over her as a better all-rounder character. Good defender, good offender, meter control for standing still. I just find myself using her lots.
I think it doesn't deserve the spot, but Epic Sax is my first evolved diamond and I love his kit.
I cannot wait to get Surgeon General!
i have surgeon general but i building vaporwave rn
Have u gotten Surgeon General yet ?
A new ZeoW video? Yes please.
_I'm actually commenting without even seen the whole video, because that's how good the content is_
You make me cry 😭
I’ve been waiting for this one! 😌
Tier list amazing as always. Can't get enough of these beginner guides and feeling like a lvl30 player again ahaha!
Personally I would include also Bloodbath. Probably, because I've grown such a big attachment to this variant (since she was my first gold). Countering bleeds along with removing and applying buffs makes her such a powerhouse. Not to mention her stats are aimed for attack... Although she's a great defender too, nothing better than forcing a fighter in Rift. Am I right?
Wishing all people a good day
Thanks Sue!!
I would add Weekend Warrior and Silent Kill in main list and in Honorary Mentions: Diva Intervention, Bloodbath, Dread Locks, Claw n Order, That's All Folks, Untouchable and Poltergust.
It is really good list, but as an annie main I would add here timeless hero because she can gain buffs really easliy and endless starpower for me it is super op.
zeow : 10 golds to invest
also zeow : I do not recommend to invest in 2 of the mentioned
my man
LOOL I had this feeling that I might be sending mixed messages. But I just had to HAHA. Defensive variants are generally not great early on to invest but I feel like I have to mention these two.
Definitely should try follow this up with another 10 or so Gold variants that are good. Because they're the most abundant class in the game, and all have some simple/available abilities to take advantage of. Two I can think of on the top of my head are Buzzkill and Princess Pride. They're actually pretty easy to use and don't depend on accuracy to activate their signature ability.
I'm surprised Dragon Brawler wasn't on here. I mean his SA1 gives you 5 stacks of precision whenever you enter hype mode. Not only that, but he also gives you 100% increased crit damage while in hype mode, which is huge for attacking. His SA2 gives you 50% blockbuster meter whenever you beat an opponent with one means Tier 3s happen a lot and you can steamroll easily.
Wait "those" are his signatures? I might have to invest in one now
So happy this video dropped!!!
Phantom threads is a really fun character to play as.
Tbh I always feel like Rainbow blight is a little underrated
Very nice atk stats for a double, ability to heal and increase damage as well as inflict solid debuffs makes her a great offense in my opinion
The double prestige ability works best with her and Jawbreaker, and you have the marquee that only adds to the debuff power house
For a new player that happens to pull her, they get not only a powerful offense, but also a way to cheese through the "inflict x debuffs" match challenges without doing anything
For some people she is outdated, but I never felt that way and I'm happy with investing in her
i have rainbow blight and immoral fiber too which way is better?
@@mertcanesen5111 if you’re a beginner, Rainbow Blight
804 Relics? How?😭☠💀💀💀😭😭
Most of them probably daily or "take a break relic"
By... saving them? Wdym "how?"😭
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It's not. All of them are fighter relics. I don't think you can save daily and "take a break" relics like that.
@@Muddy-Goldfish72 you can. Well you could now take a break relic is gone
Chronic relic hoarding disorder
Yes my boy coming in with the clutch since im currently in mid game and im getting more and more gold
I was surprised that bloodbath wasn’t on this list
Was surprised to not see Silent Kill or Vaporwave Vixen on this list
I have pulled Bio exorcist, Primed, and surgeon general as a level 41, never been more proud
I literally have most of these, but I haven't tried using them yet, thank you for showing me how good they are.
Already invested in 7 of the 10 variants you named so far. Three more to go!
I remember getting Surgeon General and wasted no time investing her
I'm currently poor in the game rn so I haven't invest into her fully but she's proven to still be a powerhouse of a support and is currently the strongest Valentine I have rn
i was surprised to not see claw n order on this list, and vaporwave as well
I've been waiting for this
Great mix of attackers and defenders. But I must say Vaporwave Vixen Fukua > Phantom Threads Fukua. VV is a much stronger and reliable attacker AND defender.
Ooohh that is a tough one! Vixen is indeed very good! I do like Phantom's buff removal just a tad more myself
I disagree, Phantom Threads attack is much better and she's an enrage gainer. Her attack is literally third highest among fukuas, without enrage stacks. And she's buff removal. Plus, with blessings and healing she's more reliable and can revive. Vaporwave Vixen? She easily gets miasma, which is good health drain cheesing tactic and meter control. And she's better defender, I only agree on that part.
I agree with better defender but attacker is just kek moments
VV can’t remove buffs
VV can cheese a lot of PFs with ease and do some rift nodes but she has little potential in rifts and a lot of the meta defenders and rift modifiers has buffs that are extremely annoying or force you to bring a buff remover
Lol vaporwave attacker best how funny
VV is a goddess
Didn’t know Surgeon General was that good, I never really used any of my Val’s due to not playing her in 2nd Encore but now that I know what she can do I’m glad I still kept my neglected shiny variant of her!
Honorable mention would be silent kill as well
Thx bro, this video will help me a lot
I was wondering if you can make a "best diamonds to invest in" video, that would be awesome :)
Yep, yep. Next!
If that happens, I would probably see either one of these:
Model Leader(Annie)
Beast King(Beowulf)
Stand Out(Eliza)
Fly Trap(Painwheel)
Neuromancer(Painwheel)
Splitting Image(Fukua)
Summer Salt(Parasoul)
Overclocked(RoboFortune)
Plot Twisted(Squigly)
Love Crafted(Squigly)
Tres Chic (Valentine)
Assassin's Greed(Valentine)
Pretty neat list,though i must say i kinda feel weird for you to not just add an honorable mention,like y'know my girl Moonstruck,Persona Assistant,Poltergust,Diva,Bloodbath and such,but hey it is what it is :D
Love this list and it’s super helpful especially to new players
What would you say about Final Fang valentine? I personally love her because she can easily copy buffs from opponents and grants them curse, and if they have an active debuff already, she has a decently high chance of stacking up multiple if not tons of debuffs at once. Do you like Final fang?
And what about Blitz & Glamour? She have access to inverse polarity which can just burn enemy's HP down with heal. And also she can avoid debuffs with immunity. Also, as a Cerebella, she have access to armor break which can be really helpful. Definitely must invest.
Yea she's pretty good against certain matchups that has access to Regen
rip umbrella and annie
When I began playing, my first shiny was Evergreen Evil. Later on I got a super early Surgeon General AND then I got a shiny Bioexorcist. That's a beginner kit!
omg i really thought bio was weak and regreted investing her but this video made me so happy about investing her and surgeon general
i pulled surgeon general extremely early on, im so glad ive kept her since XD
I'm upset that Diva Intervention didn't make the list. She is a very very easy gold to use, constantly draining health and block buster meter with no effort at all.
Im kinda new in this game and i have half of them i never knew they could be this powerful
i know this is 2yrs ago but.. I have 500 immoral fiber..., what do i do now
Silent kill Should be on this list. Although her attack stat is slow her signature ability is probably the best in the game. She also makes up her low attack with a her kit having a ton of bleed moves. She is not only mandatory late game (like fiber and blue screen) for rifts but she's also pretty solid in prize fights.
Indeed. I think I'd replace Mean One.
Hey is silent kill or surgeon general good for offense?
@@llacrimosa depends on what you want. Surgeon prevents failure while silent kill rewards success. If you find yourself wanting immunity and final stand for your offensive fighters go surgeon, if you want buff removal, debuff cleansing, and Regen on self go silent kill.
@L1sas_Rose thanks, i just evolved surgeon to diamond
Red velvet. Nice call. So underrated. Evergreen too.
I once Sacrificed Bio exorcist Before but now it came back again :D but I'm still focusing on love crafted I say thanks to the vid
I think in this meta , gold char are good to invest is Windswept (because we got of stack evade and enrage and most i liked got permanent precision)
Shot I forgot to upload a video
Good list! Learned some new things today. I'd personally include Rainbow Blight, Vaporwave Vixen, or Epic Sax, but I do have some selection bias as I only pulled some of the variants on your list in late game and instead had these earlier on. I never get tired of these three buff-stackers.
Im surprised you didn't include bloodbath
me who deleted velvet and bio for Wunderkind:
Nice, I got the majority of these variants as diamond
Watched this video and realized i have none of them
Good start i suppose. I still enjoyed the video
Proud that Phantom Threads was my second gold and my first shiny💪💪
I think mean one deserves an Honerable mention the ability to convert buffs to debuffs and easy access to enrage and great marquee ability the special moves one she is a force to be recond with
Mean One is in the video
@@Hexitizethat's best fire variants
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@@Hexitizefuck mate you're right well uh this is akward
I'm a F2P acc and I've saved 40 gold keys just waiting for this video. Long wait payed off
and to think I was gonna get some advice from this video. im poor i only have one diamond and the worst luck
moonstruck honorable mention, one of if not the best gold variant.
Thanks bro
Thanks bro.... ,
Im so happy that i get surgeon general valentine in level 17
I think it's funny that both Primed and Princess Pride are like offense/healing versions of each other and they're both effective. But personally I still find it easier to use Black Ops and it's stupid how easy it is to shut down opponents buffs generating so even if she can't make them bleed, it makes it easy to prevent them gaining buffs so just basic combos are all you need. Mine is only 3k in score but I find it easy to kill 10k+ fighters so long as I can stack combos and tears. Primed is still stupidly strong though, enrage can be busted if you stack 5 enrages onto her.
Is space case umbrella worth investing to diamond?
Amazing video man i will start investing in golds, but i honestly can't focus bcs of your relic. Like how do you manage to save 800 relics bro💀
Preservation.
Got a shiny surgeon general when i first atarted shes a beast
I have Phantom Threads and i always use her cuz i have no good other vertians except plot twisted
Why nobody talking about corrosive agent?
someone pls tell me if claw and order fortune is good, i just got her
Hi thanks for the guide,a question about harlequin whats prize fight i get her?
What are your thoughts on dread locks? Not sure if I should evolve her
He Finally did it
@ me in the chat log talking about sacrificing my Oh Mai for exp 💀
i have a question.Which should i choose for head hunter?ddos or ping check
Ping Check
thats just what i need
Harlequin
Phantom thread
Immoral fiber
Evergreen evil
Red velvet
Primed
Mean one
Blue Screen
Bio Exorcist
Surgeon general
While I agree with this list, I believe claw and order should in fact be on this list probably over fiber. Claw on her own stands on her own with an asinine Signature ability. That being said. Mean One 110% should be on this list. There’s no question there. And Bio is incredible at any point. I got her after two years same with phantom bio still hasn’t fallen off
What do you think about rainbow blight is she good?
Yep she's pretty decent. All offensive non-Diamond Doubles pretty much relies on Chaos for the most part which is really powerful. Rainbow Blight is no different.
She’s pretty outdated
Her kit revolves around changing element yet chaos wants double to keep being one element until no longer needed
Her atk is also 10k
Rainbow is mostly used for hex. So if u are looking for a hexer, rainbow can do it for you.
I love phantom but honestly I love vixen. Miasma doubles as meter control and helps you weather tougher enemies. From the perspective of enemies with high HP and I face annoying enemies such as assassin greed, model, res evil I'd chose vixen over phantom. Don't get me wrong tho, phantom is god
is Creature of Evil Double good? I started playing today :)
Hey Zeow!! I started Skullgirls not too long ago and I find you videos to be VERY informational and helpful for me! It would mean the world to me if I could be friends with you on Skullgirls and maybe play with you a bit? Even though you may not even see my comment- this is still worth a try ^^'
804 relics, this is already insanity 0:16
Surgeon general was my first gold : D
Same, i abandoned her for 2 month until i saw a lot of people saying she's great
Is diva intervention good for rift?
i only have blue screen harlequin phantom treads and primed-
Very good list❤
Could you recommend 5 top strong gold defensive variants to invest？
I been waiting cause I have so much golds 😭
im scared none of the gold variants i invested in are in that list
Buzzkill can give Heavy bleed and Give herself Enrage, i overall think she should be in the tier list but its your opinion, not mine.
Ive been wondering what I could do to make my time thief perform to her best ability do u have any videos or recommendations for compatible teammates for her?
Unfortunately I do not have any videos on her. Time Thief's recovery ability is her main use. It can be used in Rift Battles against a lot of reflect damage fighters. It really comes down to skill to use her well.
@@ZeoW17 Ok thank you!
I am level 17 and got phantom threads fukua and red velvet elizia both on same day from premiere relic i thought the game just gave you some weak gold in starting to keep you going 👀
im a starting player and i just wanted to ask, what are the differences between some variants? do some do more dmg, have diff kits or something like that? thanks :)
Each variant has a different ability and stat distribution. Each character has a different kit and ability as well.
Im a beginner how do i get more fighters faster?
Bloodbath is my favorite Eliza variant
"Best offensive support"
-> Sketchy
True
Them legit chilling with 804 relics unopened
Is biting cold good?
Me when i got bio exorcist squiggly not knoeing she is the best squiggly gold variant:
ik this is a 6 month old video but I think vaporwave vixen is also the best gold, im not sure if she's beginner friendly but I dont regret ever investing in her. I might diamond her when I get more gold fukuas.
So basically is all annies other than model leader bad? But I love her so much 😭
Not meta is the better term.
which one is elizas command grab?
Weight of Anubis
@@ZeoW17 is it good enough to use? if so what other moves It can combo with
eliza is my fav char but never I used the anubis move :D
@@egecanesmer1232 watch my Inner Pieces video. Deny uses Anubis a lot in Rift.
I got bio-exorcist today is it good to use her now bc im lvl 26
Yes
Ok
I hot a friggin materia girl annie when i started, pain ;-;
Is untouchable good?