amazing experience ! Despite more weight and no double clutch, gt350r can easily mess around with top end track cars. Perhaps the best value for money you can get.
@@joshtrackday yes, Porsche GT3 looks more like a Nintendo game, all is so easy, you just steer the wheel and press pedals. And gt350r seems to require more effort and is more rewarding. In terms of the price, presence, sound, cruising, motorsport, GT350R is unique.
@@uwriteme I believe you are correct, the GT3 on a track is easy to drive and drive fast. I can't compare to the GT350 as I've never driven one. But my neighbor recently sold his 458 Italia and bought a GT350R. Tells me it may be more exciting to drive.
@@vasili70 It's the feeling of the car that matters first. We are not paid for setting top times on the laps. For me what matters is afFORDability and feel. If a car is a great performer, then better. I'm thinking of buying 2014 5.0 GT, can't see a better deal for under 22K (V8+GT+muscle classic). PS. nice neighborhood you've got there
The GT350R is an awesome car but it actually can’t mess around with top end track cars it’s Nurburgring time is 7:32.19 while the GT3RS is 6:56.4. This is just an example of one driver being better than the other. Still a super awesome car though
Fantastic driving! Amazing what this car can do! I just bought a 2020 R and I’m hoping to get it on a track soon. The car is so visceral and raw and wants to rev. I only drive it once a month and every time I get out of the car my hands are shaking a bit from all the excitement🥰
Just wait to see how you feel after one session at the track and revving that thing to 8200rpm....if u can manage to go that high...seems unreal but it just wants to go and go and go...
Great Video Josh !! It is exhilarating to know that America still makes great sports cars that rival Europe's best. It's not the price of the car but how it performs !!
I'm pretty sure that the GT500 is for track and that the GT350R is for the drag race, I saw a video of the two drag racing and the GT 350R destroyed it.
The Shelby mustang gt 350 r will be the best sounding muscle cars ever made. I don't understand why Ford is discontinuing them no car (mustang) can replace this legend. This car handles awesome, sounds great ( the voodoo v8 is phenomenal) plus it has a six speed manual gearbox what could anyone possibly wish more for. Btw your driving skill is really great.
Super, je me demandais comment la Mustang se comporterait vis à vis la GT3 RS? Evidemment cela dépend beaucoup du pilote mais en tout cas en ligne droite la Mustang ne craint rien! Que faut-il débourser pour en acheter une en France? Il paraît que l'échappement n'est pas homologable?
Par rapport a une GT3 RS elle est moins agile car plus lourde et plus dur a conduire car boîte manuelle, nous sommes plus au niveau d'une GT3 standard. En revanche elle freine qu'une GT3 et a mon sens sont V8 est inégalable de plaisir auditif et de conduite. Les voitures restent proches en performance. Ils font compter environ 110 a 120k homologuée 😅 en effet pas simple a homologuée mais l'expert Ford Besson a Lyon maîtrise bien sont sujet !
@@joshtrackday Oui, on est au même prix qu'une Cayman GT4.C'est dommage vu le prix de base aux USA. D'un autre côté j'ai trouvé la GT4 assez décevante avec un moteur assez creux et une démultiplication très longue. J'ai eu l'occasion de comparer à Haute Saintonge à partir de ma NSX turbo. www.youtube.com/watch? v=aHKuHuUlyBo
For a blue collar working dude like myself, with the dollar comparison, one can get three GT350s for a Porsche but there is nothing like a Porsche and never will be. This dude is an excellent driver... only one shift mistake near the end when he missed third and put it in fifth for a second. Not bad for a long long demanding course. Great driving !!!
Your videos make me want to jump in my 2017 Gt350 and hit the mountain roads. Thank you. These cars are amazing and each time to drive it, it’s an event.
Awesome video man. Love it!! How'd you get the sound of the motor to be some prominent on the video? Did you have an exterior mic set up? I'd love to get my GT350 on video sounding like that. Nice job man!
can you go flat-shift on gt350? I mean switch gears without releasing gas, so the electronics adjust the rpm for you ? People have this on some WRX STI.
@@colesliva5751 rev matching is on downshift you Moron he's talking about flat foot upshifting where you don't need to release throttle to up shift dip shit
The guy driving the Mustang wasn’t even pushing it. The Porsche saw that it was a futile exercise and let him by. Probably tell his buddies, “ya I let him by, make him feel good.”😂
Dude - Do you drive professionally ? I saw your other video earlier and didn’t realize it was the same driver and car until I saw your line on a few corners. Good work man - damn! I need to learn how to drive from you.
@@joshtrackday Very impressive - keep it up. Someone finally driving this car the way it was meant to be. Maybe you can give me a few pointers to get the most out of my GT350 haha!
Another impressive drive! Obviously, the Porsche has the weight advantage should be much faster with similar horsepower. But, your driving skills really show'd up!
Feel sorry for the GT3 RS. Similar HP to the Shelby, yet it costs 3x more? Bet the owner of the GT3 wished they had 3x performance at that price. Josh, great job representing the USA.
I don’t. That’s only a very tunnel vision, 1 dimensional view point. Performance , they are close. Interior quality, not so much. The other is the intangible “feel” Also , after the ADM crap, it’s not even close to triple the cost.
@@claudehardy2649 belle histoire avec la Mustang ! Effectivement les nouveaux moteurs sont top surtout sur cette version gt350/ gt350r avec vilebrequin a plat !
@@joshtrackday Good question. I think manual was available that year. I know it is on the new one for 2022. Very good driving by you!! I’ve driven the North Loop. Might go back in October.
HOWEVER....ON AN OVERALL POINT.......Look at the racing F1 drivers of old...Jochen Rindt, Jackie Stewart, Cevert....they all raced in different cars and NOT just F1...they were ALL round drivers...and yes..some of the names mentioned are not with us anymore purely BECAUSE they were REAL race car drivers..with a buzz, a flair and a total love for the sport and game of “playing”
Just so you guys know that Porsche is 500 pounds lighter and it’s not even manual like this GT350R is,so this is just unbelievable,good fucking job ford
Yes the GT3 RS is better. It costs $188,000. The Ford costs $70,000. Seeing as 95% of people can't drive either of these cars to their fullest potential on the track, you decide which one you want.
My understanding is that you drive the GT350, but with higher priced European track cars are easier to drive because the computers do so many things for you
The GT3 driver is obviously not very experienced on the NOS, but the car itself is capable of much more. That said, I do not want to belittle the GT350R; it's just that especially on this track the driver makes most of the difference. You could have caught to this particular GT3 using a fast Golf with a decent driver.
Here is a two links to some interesting suspension and hood upgrades for the GT350 vorshlag-store.com/products/copy-of-spl-parts-titanium-series-front-lower-control-arms-s550-ford-mustang www.lmperformance.com/1064757/ac-hd15fdmu350-cr-dry-anderson-composites-mustang-gt350-dry-carbon-fiber-hood.html?gclid=Cj0KCQiA48j9BRC-ARIsAMQu3WRHW9wloYPhC3zHOYKUBdAVvzwlpkGjyFkuzb590J1RMsTf8B7JnjYaAnH_EALw_wcB
Hey I really enjoy your videos, I found a set of OEM GT350R wheels on ebay for $5900 a few months ago that I purchased for track tires for my 2017 GT350R and then spent time looking on ebay over a period of a few months and got a second set buying individual wheels from $900 up to $1500 for a total of $4900.00. I averaged $1225 per wheel. If I see any GT350R carbon OEM wheels for a good price I will send you the link to you if your interested Let me know. Hé j'apprécie vraiment vos vidéos, j'ai trouvé un ensemble de roues OEM GT350R sur ebay pour 5900 $ il y a quelques mois que j'ai acheté pour des pneus de piste pour ma GT350R 2017, puis j'ai passé du temps à chercher sur ebay sur une période de quelques mois et j'ai obtenu un deuxième ensemble d'achat de roues individuelles de 900 $ à 1500 $ pour un total de 4900,00 $. J'ai en moyenne 1225 $ par roue. Si je vois des roues OEM en carbone GT350R à un bon prix, je vous enverrai le lien si vous êtes intéressé Faites le moi savoir.
These Shelby’s are going to be priceless soon!!!
Hope you’re right. 😀
@@Chief_5 hope not
@@BorgWarnerKP39 for real. I wanna be able to buy one when I’m an adult
They always have been.
The used market has shot up the last 6 months
Oh the sound on this Shelby is amazing
pure awesomeness. both of you know this track well it seems. pls keep the content coming, great driving, great video...
yes i like and i know this track, i have alround 80 laps
nice run, made shelby owners proud
amazing experience ! Despite more weight and no double clutch, gt350r can easily mess around with top end track cars. Perhaps the best value for money you can get.
Yes the car is more difficult than a gt3 rs but very excinting !
@@joshtrackday yes, Porsche GT3 looks more like a Nintendo game, all is so easy, you just steer the wheel and press pedals. And gt350r seems to require more effort and is more rewarding. In terms of the price, presence, sound, cruising, motorsport, GT350R is unique.
@@uwriteme I believe you are correct, the GT3 on a track is easy to drive and drive fast. I can't compare to the GT350 as I've never driven one. But my neighbor recently sold his 458 Italia and bought a GT350R. Tells me it may be more exciting to drive.
@@vasili70 It's the feeling of the car that matters first. We are not paid for setting top times on the laps. For me what matters is afFORDability and feel. If a car is a great performer, then better. I'm thinking of buying 2014 5.0 GT, can't see a better deal for under 22K (V8+GT+muscle classic).
PS. nice neighborhood you've got there
The GT350R is an awesome car but it actually can’t mess around with top end track cars it’s Nurburgring time is 7:32.19 while the GT3RS is 6:56.4. This is just an example of one driver being better than the other. Still a super awesome car though
Fantastic driving! Amazing what this car can do! I just bought a 2020 R and I’m hoping to get it on a track soon. The car is so visceral and raw and wants to rev. I only drive it once a month and every time I get out of the car my hands are shaking a bit from all the excitement🥰
Just wait to see how you feel after one session at the track and revving that thing to 8200rpm....if u can manage to go that high...seems unreal but it just wants to go and go and go...
Great Video Josh !! It is exhilarating to know that America still makes great sports cars that rival Europe's best. It's not the price of the car but how it performs !!
America makes good cars for the track likes Viper Acr, Shelby gt350r, corvette Z and zr1, camarar 1le 😆
@@joshtrackday can vouche. The 1le is an insane track car. Even better than the 350r in the corners, albeit a little slower and no huge grin on face.
amazing driving from both cars but especially the heavier and front engine 6 speed manual gt350
Drive with manuel gear box on the Nordshleife is very difficult, in gt350r is higway to hell 😅
@@joshtrackday a green leafy hell lmao
This is where the Shelby 350 belongs and not at some drag race track!
I'm totally ok with you 😅
I'm pretty sure that the GT500 is for track and that the GT350R is for the drag race, I saw a video of the two drag racing and the GT 350R destroyed it.
th-cam.com/video/Hlj9KYMSwlY/w-d-xo.html
GT500 is the red 🔴 and the GT350R is blue 🔵
@@thecarguy7973 well the GT350R has a high reviewing engine with less torque than your typical high HP V8
Awesome driving....can't best the sound of American muscle and the superb handling of it....a whole different car.
The Shelby mustang gt 350 r will be the best sounding muscle cars ever made. I don't understand why Ford is discontinuing them no car (mustang) can replace this legend. This car handles awesome, sounds great ( the voodoo v8 is phenomenal) plus it has a six speed manual gearbox what could anyone possibly wish more for.
Btw your driving skill is really great.
Ford annonce a new V8 6.8l for the new mustang and the F150 😊
they always do short 5 year runs on shelbys, keeps exclusivity up.
@@joshtrackday 6.8? I hope it’s good
@@gbaby6774 Mustang Mach E gt350r ? 🤣
@Andrew V yes but with the gen3 we have less problems
Love your track vids! The Gt350 is glorious!! Can’t wait for winter to be over here so I can get mine out!
The winter is very long but the shelby received some upgrades!
Roger tthat1
😤🚬 the cobra 🐍 finds another victim. Awesome driving Josh!
Super, je me demandais comment la Mustang se comporterait vis à vis la GT3 RS?
Evidemment cela dépend beaucoup du pilote mais en tout cas en ligne droite la Mustang ne craint rien!
Que faut-il débourser pour en acheter une en France?
Il paraît que l'échappement n'est pas homologable?
Par rapport a une GT3 RS elle est moins agile car plus lourde et plus dur a conduire car boîte manuelle, nous sommes plus au niveau d'une GT3 standard. En revanche elle freine qu'une GT3 et a mon sens sont V8 est inégalable de plaisir auditif et de conduite. Les voitures restent proches en performance. Ils font compter environ 110 a 120k homologuée 😅 en effet pas simple a homologuée mais l'expert Ford Besson a Lyon maîtrise bien sont sujet !
@@joshtrackday
Oui, on est au même prix qu'une Cayman GT4.C'est dommage vu le prix de base aux USA. D'un autre côté j'ai trouvé la GT4 assez décevante avec un moteur assez creux et une démultiplication très longue.
J'ai eu l'occasion de comparer à Haute Saintonge à partir de ma NSX turbo.
www.youtube.com/watch?
v=aHKuHuUlyBo
@@nsxone123 elle marche bien cette NSX ! Elle est dorigine ?
Elle est équipée d'un turbo qui donne 400 CV aux roues AR et je l'ai pesée à 1301 kg en ordre de marche.
For a blue collar working dude like myself, with the dollar comparison, one can get three GT350s for a Porsche but there is nothing like a Porsche and never will be. This dude is an excellent driver... only one shift mistake near the end when he missed third and put it in fifth for a second. Not bad for a long long demanding course. Great driving !!!
Your videos make me want to jump in my 2017 Gt350 and hit the mountain roads. Thank you. These cars are amazing and each time to drive it, it’s an event.
Mustangs Have come so Far I went From not wanting one to I wish I had one..
Why does this R have three vents in the middle instead of the gauges?
It's radio delete package ! Must hardcore Mustang ever made
@@joshtrackday ah nice!
Both cars are about as raw as it gets. Has to a great track experience for both owners.
Awesome video man. Love it!! How'd you get the sound of the motor to be some prominent on the video? Did you have an exterior mic set up? I'd love to get my GT350 on video sounding like that. Nice job man!
Thanks man, the sound is recording by the microphone of the camera 😅
If you have the passenger window rolled down at least halfway my camera picks up incredible sound
can you go flat-shift on gt350? I mean switch gears without releasing gas, so the electronics adjust the rpm for you ? People have this on some WRX STI.
No. This is a pretty old-school car in its inputs. Feels old-school to drive as well, but in a great way. More mechanical and involved.
are you talking about rev matching?
@@colesliva5751 no ..
@@slaykay47 yes he is lmfao
@@colesliva5751 rev matching is on downshift you Moron he's talking about flat foot upshifting where you don't need to release throttle to up shift dip shit
i own gt350 my self this is awsome !
wow what a track day run on that gt350!!!
The guy driving the Mustang wasn’t even pushing it. The Porsche saw that it was a futile exercise and let him by. Probably tell his buddies, “ya I let him by, make him feel good.”😂
Nice to see a GT350 on the ring
More vidéo in 2021 !
Why only half of the ring?
you still got this car?
no problem with the sound ?
Respects for the Shelby, we know what Porsche can do.
J’ai lu ton interview dans Sport Auto ! Super voiture
Super ! La vidéo est une belle illustration ! Vivement 2021 ! Et merci du compliment !
Whatever you have to pay for this mustang, it's worth it. Your driving is almost crazy, yet good, very good.
What makes that Shelby GT350 so awesome is that flat plain voo-doo engine. It can rev all the way to 9000 rpms giving it that awesome sound.
Incredible footage. Whatta high that experience would bring. Thanks for sharing
Mustangs have always been a performance value weapon but this really drives the point home. (Punned it)
what do you think about supercharged gt350r like Hennessy 850 hp on a track? would it be safe to handle such power or aggravate the risk of accident ?
I dont know but the chassis of the gt350r have the potentiel for more 100hp easly !
@@joshtrackday it would be great to see someone pushing hard a supercharged GT350 on track.
To drive mine on that track would be amazing.
I confirmed, gt350r is very good on this track !
Pretty awesome driving!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dude - Do you drive professionally ?
I saw your other video earlier and didn’t realize it was the same driver and car until I saw your line on a few corners.
Good work man - damn! I need to learn how to drive from you.
Thanks man, no I'm not professional, just for pleasure 😉
@@joshtrackday Very impressive - keep it up. Someone finally driving this car the way it was meant to be. Maybe you can give me a few pointers to get the most out of my GT350 haha!
Another impressive drive! Obviously, the Porsche has the weight advantage should be much faster with similar horsepower. But, your driving skills really show'd up!
Sheeeeesh very nice race lol
are you on cup2 or other?
Trofeo R better than cup 2 but not than cup 2 R
These cars are so close now...it’s just down to the bottle of the “driver” to push that minutest limit...
Porsche 6c y Shelby v8 Porsche the best, ese 6 cilindros le mete la reata a ese v8
Feel sorry for the GT3 RS. Similar HP to the Shelby, yet it costs 3x more? Bet the owner of the GT3 wished they had 3x performance at that price. Josh, great job representing the USA.
USA on the ring with the big V8 ! I like this car !
I don’t. That’s only a very tunnel vision, 1 dimensional view point. Performance , they are close. Interior quality, not so much.
The other is the intangible “feel”
Also , after the ADM crap, it’s not even close to triple the cost.
@@TRZ0612 i agree. and i have a 350R
@@TRZ0612 I e bought two shelby no adm just have to call around. Also no one gives a shit about panel gaps at the track
@@TrackDayVideo They do if it’s not just a track rat car. I daily my performance cars
Cool !@
true track car...FORD took the GT350(R) back to its roots💙
Excellent driving 👍
JUST when he overtakes........hahaha
damn my palms are sweaty
sacré maitrise de cette mustang ! chapeau
Merci ! C'est une voiture passionnante !
@@joshtrackday oui je connais j'en suis à ma 7ème mais hélas jamais eu de shelby ! par contre le v8 de 2015 marche fort !
@@claudehardy2649 belle histoire avec la Mustang ! Effectivement les nouveaux moteurs sont top surtout sur cette version gt350/ gt350r avec vilebrequin a plat !
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Sehr geil!!!
bien joué coach..
Nous allons devoir mettre un logo ambition sur l'auto en 2021 pour le record 😅
That is impressive.
The Green Hell is crazy!
AS I find wheels I will send you the information. I have seen a set sell last week for $6800.00
How about you put Roger Rohrl in both and ask his opinion? Then you will really know where these 2 are at.
Wonder if the Porsche was manual or PDK? Big props to the Ford!
991 GT3 RS only with pdk I think ?!
@@joshtrackday Good question. I think manual was available that year. I know it is on the new one for 2022. Very good driving by you!! I’ve driven the North Loop. Might go back in October.
Once he started exiting those corners in a lower gear he was on that Porsche like a fly on shit.
haha je t'ai vu sur sport auto
HOWEVER....ON AN OVERALL POINT.......Look at the racing F1 drivers of old...Jochen Rindt, Jackie Stewart, Cevert....they all raced in different cars and NOT just F1...they were ALL round drivers...and yes..some of the names mentioned are not with us anymore purely BECAUSE they were REAL race car drivers..with a buzz, a flair and a total love for the sport and game of “playing”
GT3 RS PULLED OVER BEFORE HE GOT PASSED!
Just so you guys know that Porsche is 500 pounds lighter and it’s not even manual like this GT350R is,so this is just unbelievable,good fucking job ford
Yes the GT3 RS is better. It costs $188,000. The Ford costs $70,000.
Seeing as 95% of people can't drive either of these cars to their fullest potential on the track, you decide which one you want.
Gt3 is 6c and Ford V8
My understanding is that you drive the GT350, but with higher priced European track cars are easier to drive because the computers do so many things for you
I didn't any versus here. I saw a GT3 walk a mustang repeatedly until the Porsche got bored.
The GT3 driver is obviously not very experienced on the NOS, but the car itself is capable of much more. That said, I do not want to belittle the GT350R; it's just that especially on this track the driver makes most of the difference. You could have caught to this particular GT3 using a fast Golf with a decent driver.
Here is a two links to some interesting suspension and hood upgrades for the GT350 vorshlag-store.com/products/copy-of-spl-parts-titanium-series-front-lower-control-arms-s550-ford-mustang www.lmperformance.com/1064757/ac-hd15fdmu350-cr-dry-anderson-composites-mustang-gt350-dry-carbon-fiber-hood.html?gclid=Cj0KCQiA48j9BRC-ARIsAMQu3WRHW9wloYPhC3zHOYKUBdAVvzwlpkGjyFkuzb590J1RMsTf8B7JnjYaAnH_EALw_wcB
Ford Mustang GT
Amusing to this yank that one has to pay multiples of the price of a Shelby or Corvette C8 to get that kind of performance over there.
In France Shelby gt350 r cost average 110 000 euros
gt 350 the best mustang!!
Was there really a question... all that great noise for nothing...
GT3 just let him go
Hey I really enjoy your videos, I found a set of OEM GT350R wheels on ebay for $5900 a few months ago that I purchased for track tires for my 2017 GT350R and then spent time looking on ebay over a period of a few months and got a second set buying individual wheels from $900 up to $1500 for a total of $4900.00. I averaged $1225 per wheel. If I see any GT350R carbon OEM wheels for a good price I will send you the link to you if your interested Let me know.
Hé j'apprécie vraiment vos vidéos, j'ai trouvé un ensemble de roues OEM GT350R sur ebay pour 5900 $ il y a quelques mois que j'ai acheté pour des pneus de piste pour ma GT350R 2017, puis j'ai passé du temps à chercher sur ebay sur une période de quelques mois et j'ai obtenu un deuxième ensemble d'achat de roues individuelles de 900 $ à 1500 $ pour un total de 4900,00 $. J'ai en moyenne 1225 $ par roue. Si je vois des roues OEM en carbone GT350R à un bon prix, je vous enverrai le lien si vous êtes intéressé Faites le moi savoir.
I'am interested !
I’m interested as well, I own a 19 Gt350R. Can you contact me?
THE R is amazing....against a 200K plus car......i rather have the R ..i do..LOL just better all around
This Porsche driver just give up?
I think I drink and eat during the lap
Shelby is too heavy that’s why 760HP
Americans very good with pick up trucks that’s it.😂
Germans are best in cars piece of art
Shelby are so heavy? 🤣🤣🤣
That car should do 0 to 60 around 2.7 with that HP and over priced.
0 to 60 3.6 sec slow
@@jimakcelik6486 0 - 60 are not important for track used and this car make the same heavy of gt2 rs 991 ...
That Mustang only has 526hp and 429 lb ft of toqrue. The GT500 has 760hp, not this one.
Hahahahahaha I let you pass, I think he thought your car was damaged with that stupid noise
That motor screams out sex! Ford nailed that 110%