Installing a K-EDGE ROAD BIKE CHAIN KEEPER to Stop Chain Drops
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- If the chain falls off you can crash and it could damage the chain and frame. Here's how to fix chain dropping by installing a K-Edge chain keeper, also called a chain catcher. #JimLangley #BicycleAficionado #bicyclerepair
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0:00 - Why chains drop
0:28 - Bad things happen if your chain drops off
0:40 - About the K-Edge road chain keeper catcher
1:20 - How the chain keeper keeps the chain on
1:31 - Weight of the K-Edge chain keeper
1:43 - Types of front derailleurs the chain keeper works with
2:00 - Start by shifting to the small chainring and largest cog
2:15 - How to mount the K-Edge chain keeper
2:29 - Be sure to mark the front derailleur position
3:18 - Removing the front derailleur bolt and spacer
3:33 - The hex wrenches needed to install the chain keeper
3:47 - Installing the K-Edge spacer and bolt
4:16 - Putting on the K-Edge arm that keeps the chain on
4:37 - Adjusting the K-Edge chain keeper catcher
5:03 - Checking the front derailleur shifting
5:41 - Be sure to carry the 3mm hex wrench!
6:09 - Comment with any questions and I'll help
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The Deda Dog Fang is probably the most robust and best frame mount chain catcher. There are other similar products (3RD EYE CHAIN WATCHER) but they are more flexible and the chain can get by those sometimes. The Deda is solid enough that isn't likely to happen.
@@robertschlumpberger22 thanks a lot for watching and sharing your recommendations Rob, appreciate it 🙏❤️
Finally someone presents the installation properly
Thanks a lot for watching and the great comment, appreciate it! 🙏
I've been using these K-Edge Chainkeepers for a few years now. I dropped a chain in the middle of a busy intersection that left me standing in the middle of the road. I ordered one when I got home. I have since put one on all of my road bikes and TT bike. No more getting caught in the middle of intersections. It is a great product that works really well.
Thanks a lot for watching and for sharing how well the K-Edges have worked for you Robert, appreciate it 🙏
Great video! The tip about keeping a 3mm on hand is the chain drops during a crash is a great pick up. I had a commuter e-bike that had a chain keeper built in and when the chain dropped it was possible for the chain to get wedged in place and hard to remove without pulling things apart.
I'm happy you enjoyed the video and the tip on carrying the tool to move the keeper - and from first hand experience too! Thanks for watching and the great comment! 🙏
I don't ride anymore(bad wrists and thumbs have made it impossible to shift) but this would have been a great gadget to have, when I was riding ! Thanks for the video Jim !
Thanks a lot for watching and commenting George. Very sorry to hear about your wrists and thumbs. If you want to get back to biking you could try the electric shifters. They're expensive but the shifters work easily more like a computer mouse click. You still have to use your hands to hang onto the bars and brake though. Thanks again!
On some bikes, the chain can wedge and cause damage to the bottom bracket and the inner crank (especially on 3x) as well as the frame. K-Edge is a company that deserves more attention for their interesting products and our loyalty for manufacturing on shore. All the best to you both.
Appreciate you watching and commenting, Stan. Chain drops can definitely cause major damage and you can crash badly and get hurt because of it too. I agree that K-Edge deserves more attention for their excellent product. Thanks a lot!
Thanks Jim!
My pleasure Francesco! Thank you for watching and commenting 🙏
Good job as usual Jim!
My pleasure Denis! Thanks for watching and commenting, appreciate it!
Thank you Jim for this!
My pleasure Jerald. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Had it on my bike. Install and forget solution. Does its job and good thing to have on top of properly set up derailer.
Thanks for watching and commenting, Bikeo Matic! It's definitely an "install and forget" chain drop solution.. that's a great way to explain it, thanks!
Great video. Thank you!!!
My pleasure Jess, thanks for watching and commenting!
And, marking the mounting spacer was a great tip. Mine slipped but the mark was there!👍
My old voodoo used to suffer terribly from chain drops, it magically wedged the chain between the bb and chain ring every time - guaranteed oily hands and a few swear words...
This is a would have been awesome.
Thanks for watching and sharing your Voodoo chain drop problem C. P. These chain keepers definitely should have come along sooner 🙂
Merci!
❤️ Thanks very much Denis, appreciated it!!
Another preventative is to never go from biggie big to small big! Better to go to smallie small before entering the actual climb. Good little device, but steel could handle some mistreatment. Shift the front down first, then the back.
Appreciate you watching and sharing this great tip, David, you're exactly right that HOW you shift can cause chain drops too so you want to avoid making the shifts you mention. Thank you!
Jim
Personally, I would mark the up/down left/right center of the derailleur bolt rather than the contour of the original spacer because the provided K-Edge spacer might differ in size/shape relative to the bolt center from the original one.
By marking the height and angle (left/right) of the center of the bolt, you are sure that you front derailleur will remain in the same position no mater the discrepancies between the two spacers' size/shape.
Basically, you want the derailleur in the same position, not the top or side of the spacer.
Your thoughts?
Thanks for watching and the advice on marking the front derailleur position better Sylvain. I like your idea. Depending on the shape of the frame's mount for the ft. der. it can be challenging to find a place to mark. But I think you could put tape on the mount and mark the tape, that might work. I appreciate you suggesting other ways to do it, thank you!
Last year I had a similar problem on an old MTB converted to single speed using a tensioner. I may not have had the chain length adjusted properly, but after fixing that I still decided to add some extra protection. I searched for solutions and found the Jump Stop from N-Gear and it seems to have worked fine. Been over lots of rocky terrain and no more falling chain issues.
Thanks a lot for watching and sharing this tip Morry, appreciate it 👍 Here’s a link for anyone interested n-gear.com/ Thanks again!
Cool! Just a tip that he's not the fastest to respond to emails, but did eventually get back to me. Very happy with the transaction and product quality.
@@MorryB thanks a lot for sharing that, Morry - good to know!
Awesome video thank you! My bike came with an oem part that’s plastic and seems to do the same thing as the k edge part.. do you think it’s worth upgrading to the k edge?
Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed the vid ShredGeek. Usually the proprietary chain keepers the bike companies put on the bikes are there for a good reason - they're designed to fit onto the bike in a specific way that works for the frame. And they usually work really well. So I don't think you'd gain anything by going to the K Edge.
Thanks Jim! Just ordered this.. had my first drop this morning and scratched up the carbon a tiny bit but luckily no major damage. I checked FD H L limit screw settings and they were within spec of Shimano’s specs. The only thing that I did last night was I aligned the rear derailleur hanger and adjusted the b-tension screw not sure if those were factors. But I do tend to shift both front and rear derailleurs at the same time as I start the climb, the chain dropped when I did that this morning… any ideas?
Thanks so much Sam, appreciate it! Shifting both derailleurs at the same time does increase the chances of the chain dropping. As for adjustments, the angle of the cage is the biggest drop causer. If it’s not parallel but angled in it can push the chain too far. The chain dropper should stop the chain coming off but it’s worth checking the angle to see if it can be improved. Hope this helps. Let me know how the K Edge works. Thanks again!!
@@JimLangley1 thanks Jim. I got it installed per your instructions and it appears that it will do its job. Just a question though, the way that it’s designed, the top hole does not do anything in terms of fixing the catcher position in place and it’s the bottom bolt that’s fixing the catcher in place.. this design can potentially allow the catcher to move out of position but hopefully it’s been tested that it wouldn’t allow the chain to move the catcher given the bolt is sufficiently tight.
@@samguan5236 I haven’t talked to K Edge about this but I think it’s designed to move if something goes wrong like a stick in the rear derailleur bending the derailleur and chain and then the bent chain wouldn’t jam and throw you over the bars. I think that’s the idea, i.e. in an emergency it’s designed to move. When preventing chain drops it doesn’t get hit too hard by the chain. Lots of racers rely on them and trust them. I hope you like yours.
Thanks for covering this important topic. I love my carbon bike and will definitely be getting one. Prevention is better than cure.
You're welcome, Paul. Thanks a lot for watching. You're absolutely correct that prevention is better!
Seems like an absolute no brainer given its only 10 grams. Everyone with a carbon frame they care about should ride with one.
Thanks for watching and commenting! Yes, it's a frame-saver and it'll also prevent any possibility of crashing when the chain comes off, which happens a lot. Thanks!
Are there any good options for bikes with non braze on front derailleurs?
Thanks for watching and the question Amatilda. Please read my “pinned” comment - the first comment. I give a link to a chain keeper for clamp-on (band-type) front derailleurs. Let me know if you have any questions.
Thank you!
@@amatildaj you’re welcome!
Can u show us an installation of this chain catcher for SRAM AXS?
Thanks for watching and the question. I don't have an AXS derailleur to show. But here's SRAM's video on installation and adjustment of AXS front derailleurs. Once it's on and adjusted, the K-Edge chain catcher goes onto the AXS derailleur the same way I show on the Shimano Di2 derailleur. It's the same process and chain catcher adjustment. Hope this helps.
I just build my first ever carbon roadbike and i just saw this video and i might happen to me... so the chain can only fall when the chain is on the largest cog and smaller chainring?
@@emnico6063 congratulations on building your first carbon superbike! Actually the chain catcher is made to stop the chain falling to the inside on whatever cog you're on on the back. The chain doesn't usually fall off but when you shift the front derailleur from the large chainring to the small chainring, that's when things can go wrong - especially if you're pushing like in a race or event and you're trying to stay with other riders on a climb. For example, the chain might be bouncing around a little and you shift onto the small chainring and the chain might come off. If it comes off it can then jam between the frame and crankset sometimes. That's what the chain catcher is for - to add insurance so that if something goes wrong when you shift the chain can't come off. Okay? I hope that explains.
@@JimLangley1 Thanks a lot❤️
Just saw this item and was wondering wtf it did and litterally never have had this happen so i passing on it. Bike is heavy enough as it is.
That's some impressively disgusting bar tape 😂
Ha, ha 😁 thanks for the laugh R Dub-Yah - it is getting pretty bad. Thing is I really like to get my money’s worth out of stuff and it’s hardly worn out at all, just dirty. I do wash it but it doesn’t get it clean, that’s the problem with white tape. I promise I’ll rewrap it one of these days! Thanks for watching and the great comment!