This video was some of the first exposure to the Codex Dobringer and the Liechtenauer system. 8 years later I find myself starting my own HEMA school with my partner and teaching longsword basics to a new generation of fencers. Thank you so much for inspiring me to start out on this path so many years ago. Words cannot express how grateful I am that you took the time and effort to put this instruction out there and leave it here for people to find.
Christian Tobler, whose Zornhau class I had the pleasure of taking at Pennsic a couple years back, suggests that Zornhau should move to Langort (long point)/Sprechfenster, rather than Phlug, as you show it in your video. His argument is that in Longort, fuhlen is improved, allowing quicker transitions to duplieren or mutieren. The caveat here is that his earlier interpretations of Liechtenauer - and many other interpretations of Zornhau - do move to Pflug, so I'm not (and I doubt *he* would) say your interpretation is wrong; however, it is an interesting variation to move to Langort, and I find myself making use of Zornhaus that move to either one, depending on the circumstances.
Thanks, Jonathon Dingelstad. We are currently working on a project specifically aimed at people new to HEMA. I can't give any details yet, but you will see some announcements here and on Facebook in the near future.
+MarkDNF Feints are definitely one way. The goal is to react instantly to whatever my opponent does, and to react properly. My second attack should be a continuation of the first, and should take into account what my opponent is doing. Where is he strong; where is he open?
Thanks. That's good to know. Hmm, anything else? Such as in this presentation, you went from the zornhau to the ort and he pushed it to the side, in which you turned and cut at his open side because he committed to that push. Basically what could he do once that happens or before that happens to stop you?
+MarkDNF there's always something else. Every move has a counter, usually several. For instance, he could wind his sword into right Ochs to block my attack and to take control of the center line.
Hey I have been watching your techniques series, and I feel like it would be very helpful to any beginners if you did a series on the bare basics, from the stance and grip to the five cuts with footwork.
Very good lesson dudes :D Just started sparring with a few pals and we are hodge podging our own style and techniques but we also use armour and run about acting daft. Subscribed.
hey great video helps a lot but could you make a video on the foundational principles for people like me who don't know them yet? Again very helpful video
Matt Hulan, thanks for the thoughts! I cut my teeth on Christian's books, and still use them sometimes. My biggest concern with cutting directly into Long Point is that I am not defending my openings as I attack or especially as I parry. This could just be my defensive mindset, though. I'm interested in how Feeling would be improved in Long Point. I've not heard or experienced that. I'm not convinced that Sprechenfenster is the same as Long Point. Dobringer seems to imply that Sprechenfenster is not a guard, but a technique done from the Upper or Lower Hangings, or Ochs and Pflug if you will. "Comment: here learn and know that there are two hangings each side, one Unterhängen (lower hanging) and one Oberhängen (upper hanging) with which you can get at his sword well, because these come from the Oberhau and Unterhau (high strike and low strike). If it now happens that you bind with your opponent on purpose or without so you should well stay at the sword and use the winding. So you can stand happily with relaxed mind and without fear at the sword and see, notice and wait for what he tries to do next; and what his plan is he intends to execute. And the standing at the sword is called the Sprechfenser (speaking window) by Liechtenauer." Thanks again for the comment. I appreciate opinions different to my own.
3:42 I would go for a pommel strike 9 out of 10 times in this situation, stepping around the opponent's blade is risky (and unnecessary IMO) as they only need to turn to face you, which is a smaller movement. Still it was an interesting interpretation and clearly explained.
Intresting how people argue about Italian/German longsword on minor differences but fail to see the similarities sometimes. for example the zorn-ort is pretty similar to Fiore's first play in wide play. (you defend yourself from the incoming attack/make a cross/bind and thrust to the face/throat/chest. thats basicly a Zorn-ort just under a different name, with minor differences.) Another example is that Fiore mentions that you could/should cut the Middle height cuts like the right is with the true edge and the left is with the false, which is kinda similar to a Zwerchau (i know they are not the same without the thumbs up grip, but they do pretty similar things just a bit differently). Even the guards, they look different a bit but they do the same thing. Posta di donna is basicly Vom Tag, Posta Breve is pflug just without the side changes, posta finestra is a mix of a key and an ochs, poste di bicorno is a middle version of the key guard, longpoint longort without any changes, Porta di ferro mazzana is alber without any changes, now boar's tusk and tutta ferro are intresting ones, cause i think they look different but have the same "reason" to exist as schrankhut and weschel, and posta di coda longa has some similarities nebenhut i think. So all in all, humans move in a certain way, we have similar bodymechanics and we are talking about kinda similar weapons aswell, so there always will be large amount of overlap in different fencing systems i think as well as differences but they will mainly be in the "mentality" part, like the princepal of attacking from the right vs learn to attack from the left, or the mastercuts vs keep yourself safe and repost etc....all works pretty well, but these are minor differences compered to the similarities in my oppinion.
Johannes Sigiward Fechter, thanks for commenting with your thoughts. I agree that the other side refers to the sword. The text is talking about Abnehmen, of which the Zucken is but a specific example. Don't limit yourself if the text does not. The Zucken is great to do, though I don't believe it says to never step with the Zucken, but is certainly not the only option. "This is possible because as it's described in the text, you do not step and Zornhau at the same..." The text does NOT speak of the timing of stepping in regards to striking the Zornhau and thrusting the Ort. You are adding your own ideas, or the ideas of others, to the text. Stay open-minded.
***** Oh my God! I'm sorry that I had not seen this until now. I apologize if you thought that I deleted such a gem. You are welcome to come test my art any time you like. I am sorry that you feel that way, but I have tried to be nothing but professional to you, something that you have failed to do. I have been open to your ideas, agreeing with some and disagreeing with others. You have not returned the courtesy, showing your own closed mind and limited understanding. God bless.
Very nice. For me I find interpretive inspiration in Fiore's First Largo Master, whose plays pretty much mimic the Zornhaw and its follow ups (thrust to the face if you win the bind and he is "soft", strike over and around if he wins the bind and is "hard"). Coincidentally, there is no step mentioned in these plays just as there is no step mentioned in some of the German glosses as well; at the most you merely advance the left foot forward for the thrust or to the left for the abnehmen. Ive seen some purely German clubs interpret it this way too. Interesting. Thanks for sharing this video! :) Keep up the good work.
I've also done it without a step. That may be correct. Everything preceding this play, at least in MS 3227a, drives home the point of taking steps with the attacks, so I'm hesitant to assume that not mentioning steps means not stepping. Perhaps the step is only necessary at certain ranges? Thanks for the thoughts!
Sword Carolina Hi, from my experience when you need to do backward step while doing zornhaw your distance is incorrect - the one who is attacking is too close and vulnerable to attacks in vor to hands. Also we don't use zornhaw as offensive action, basic vorschlag is better for this, no point to attack with cut which is not targeted on the opponent.
Daniel Mattas Thanks for the thoughts; I appreciate them. I don't follow all of what you are saying, but I know people have different opinions about the techniques. I'm cool with that. I would say that there is not only one distance that you would find yourself fighting from. Reality is variety. We don't pigeonhole ourselves into only one stylized version of a drill. Were you in an actual fight, you will find yourself at different ranges based on the style of fencing your opponent is using and what he is intending on doing next. You can't rely on your opponent to cooperate with you. If I am fencing in the Nach, having different footwork at my disposal allows me to control the range, not just mindlessly step with forward passing steps for every technique, for instance. The Codex Dobringer does seem to say that the Zornhau can be used in the Vor to set up the thrust to your opponent, so I'll go with that. But obviously, no one has to use it this way. I don't understand saying that the Zornhau does not target the opponent. Isn't that the point of the Zornhau, literally? There is more than one interpretation to this and to every technique in HEMA. I do appreciate you sharing your opinion.
Always cut to the man; never the sword. Cut to his weapon, and he will defeat you easily with durchweseln, or any other technique he likes. Dobringer specifically states this, and it is a martial concept present in other martial arts I have done, such as Wing Chun, where we are always reminded "never to chase hands" but rather to "occupy the lines by which we can attack the opponent, and the opponent can attack us;" fencing theory is no different. Lines of attack are subtle, and you can attack your opponent directly whilst still covering yourself. The advantage is, if your weapon is a threat to him, he must bind. If your weapon is not an immediate a threat to him, he may move it and attack you elsewhere as he pleases, denying you that initial bind, as you have merely cut at his sword -- which can move quickly -- and not his body.
Thanks for the comment! You bring up a good point, one I really should have mentioned here. Thanks for filling in the gap. I do cover this concept in the Lesson 3 video. I agree with you in principle, but I think that this is a general rule, not necessarily true in every single case, particularly when fencing in the Nach. (Though I always admit that I could be wrong, and ask others to join me in that sentiment.) Dobringer says in the Zornhau section "And if it happened, that the adversary got the Vorschlag (first strike) so he should be well practiced and quick with the Abwenden (turning-off) and as soon as he has turned off the (attacks of) the adversary, he should move quickly as soon as possible, and his point should always aim for the chest as you will hear now." Again in the Zornhau section, talking about the Oberhau and Unterhau, "And from the same strikes come the four displacements from both sides, with these you break and defeat all strikes thrusts or guards and these also lead to the hangings which can be very well be used for artful techniques as you will hear later." And earlier in the general comment, "It may happen that one has to defend the adversary´s Vorschlag. So he would defend it by getting at his sword - and if he is a little slow or indecisive so he would want to stay at the sword and use the winden and feel if the adversary wants to pull back from the bind or not." Yes, ideally you would want to cover your line while striking him at the same time with the Zornhau. This can be difficult and dangerous, especially if your opponent has stepped toward your flank in the attack. Self-preservation is more important than opponent-destruction. If I hit him while he hits me, I have failed. As you stated, "if your weapon is a threat to him, he must bind." I agree. That goes both ways. If his weapon is a threat to you, you must bind. Thanks!
Nick, I do find it hard to do the high guard indoors (and we have busted a few lights). Luckily for me, I do not personally like fencing from a high guard. I much prefer Vom Tag on the shoulder. Both are correct, but my personal preference is to keep my arms tight to my body unless attacking.
Jonathan Allen Interesting thought. What is the benefit of leaning forward vs. standing upright; how would it be more effective? I have no experience in armored combat. But even unarmored, I prefer keeping my balance, as the art is founded on wrestling, and we may fall into grappling at any moment.
vorn tag should be held above the head when fencing in earnest - holding at the shoulder is a training guard - to give your training partner the courtesy of showing where the strike is coming from and leaves the forearms exposed when fencing. All cuts can be thrown from the roof when held correctly above the head, without telegraphing the movement to your opponent. Just my 2 pence on the matter
Thanks for the thought, but what sources are you using to make this point? I'm not an expert in all KDF manuscripts, but I've never come across this in the ones we use (Döbringer, von Danzig, and Ringeck). I would respectfully disagree with the points you make, but I am glad that you shared them. I try to always be open to new ideas.
andrew milburn I will have to disagree. I find that holding tag as it shows in the Ringeck manuscript ensures that you are relaxed and ready to strike. I have so far had no issue with striking with speed and power from that position. You may say that the opponent knows that you will strike from your strong side, however Ringeck specifically warns against striking the first blow from your weak side.
What would you guys recomend for a good target. I've tried hitting trees but they don't work very well :) and I am the only one with a sword so I can't fight any one so I would like to find out what be good Thanks! - May the art of the sword live on!
Yeah, trees aren't very forgiving. I made a pell that works well for us. It is made of 2x4s standing about 6' tall with four legs about 3' long. Then we wrapped it in cardboard and duct tape. It is solid enough when striking, but can move enough that you do not shock your hands and wrists too much. Another option would be a punching bag, though they can be expensive, especially should you damage them. Hope that helps!
Sword Carolina Thanks! I might try that. I just got a celtic broad sword and am really excited about trying to use it as I am a fantasy medieval finatic!
As a left-hander, it doesn't seem like zornhau-ort will be much of a go to for me, unless there is a variant for people with mirror vom tags or similar.
Great video. It's hard to tell in the video, but do you find it hard to do High guard indoors? My sparring partner and I have a hard time finding anywhere to train indoors because all the ceilings are too low.
Congrats on getting started! I'm glad you found us. I don't have any videos addressing it specifically. I do have a video where I go through the order of cuts, but add thrusts as well. It might be a bit advanced, but could give you the idea. th-cam.com/video/CR9KbI86xKs/w-d-xo.html
I understand. In this video we are using hockey gloves. It is easiest to order them online. Lacrosse gloves will also work. Now, these are for our practices. When we are competing, we use HEMA specific gloves, as those available online at Purpleheart Armoury.
+Sword Carolina be safe. It only takes a single time to make a permanent change in someone else's life. Pros will always be mindful of taking appropriate safety steps since they know they are an example to others. Just want you guys to be safe and keep providing us all with great videos!
This video was some of the first exposure to the Codex Dobringer and the Liechtenauer system. 8 years later I find myself starting my own HEMA school with my partner and teaching longsword basics to a new generation of fencers.
Thank you so much for inspiring me to start out on this path so many years ago. Words cannot express how grateful I am that you took the time and effort to put this instruction out there and leave it here for people to find.
Awesome to see that there are even people in South Carolina doing HEMA! I left a subscription. Greetings from Germany to you, guys!
Mountainlove Thanks!
Christian Tobler, whose Zornhau class I had the pleasure of taking at Pennsic a couple years back, suggests that Zornhau should move to Langort (long point)/Sprechfenster, rather than Phlug, as you show it in your video. His argument is that in Longort, fuhlen is improved, allowing quicker transitions to duplieren or mutieren.
The caveat here is that his earlier interpretations of Liechtenauer - and many other interpretations of Zornhau - do move to Pflug, so I'm not (and I doubt *he* would) say your interpretation is wrong; however, it is an interesting variation to move to Langort, and I find myself making use of Zornhaus that move to either one, depending on the circumstances.
this was awesome, novice hema fencer here (6 months), this technique looks really useful, thanks for sharing your interpretation.
+Eric Nesbitt Glad that we can help! Please check out our other videos and Sword Carolina Online if you are interested in more in-depth study. Thanks!
Thanks, Jonathon Dingelstad. We are currently working on a project specifically aimed at people new to HEMA. I can't give any details yet, but you will see some announcements here and on Facebook in the near future.
+Sword Carolina So can I ask... How do you appraoch someone and attack without getting countered and killed? Feints?
+MarkDNF Feints are definitely one way. The goal is to react instantly to whatever my opponent does, and to react properly. My second attack should be a continuation of the first, and should take into account what my opponent is doing. Where is he strong; where is he open?
Thanks. That's good to know. Hmm, anything else? Such as in this presentation, you went from the zornhau to the ort and he pushed it to the side, in which you turned and cut at his open side because he committed to that push.
Basically what could he do once that happens or before that happens to stop you?
+MarkDNF there's always something else. Every move has a counter, usually several. For instance, he could wind his sword into right Ochs to block my attack and to take control of the center line.
Sword Carolina Thank you again, I'm extremely new so i can't see everything but thank you for the info, i'll keep it in mind.
Woow, that's a great initiative! I was looking for something like this for sooo long! Thank you guys, please, keep on with the good work!
I just realized that this was uploaded some time ago... oh well
Hey, it's new to you!
Yeah, you got a point. Thank you guys :)
Nicely done. Looking forward to seeing more!
Thanks!
thank you very much for these lessons, if i could afford I would buy lessons.
Hey I have been watching your techniques series, and I feel like it would be very helpful to any beginners if you did a series on the bare basics, from the stance and grip to the five cuts with footwork.
Taimu Thank you for the suggestion. We will be coming out with many more videos. I am sure we will tackle the basics as well. Stay tuned.
Thank you very much. Footwork especially would be nice.
Hi guys! I just rewatched this video and it's amazing to see how much your quality has improved over time. Great work :)
+N3RD1NS1D3 Thanks for noticing! I'm glad that we invested the money in better equipment.
Very good lesson dudes :D Just started sparring with a few pals and we are hodge podging our own style and techniques but we also use armour and run about acting daft.
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hey great video helps a lot but could you make a video on the foundational principles for people like me who don't know them yet? Again very helpful video
Matt Hulan, thanks for the thoughts! I cut my teeth on Christian's books, and still use them sometimes. My biggest concern with cutting directly into Long Point is that I am not defending my openings as I attack or especially as I parry. This could just be my defensive mindset, though. I'm interested in how Feeling would be improved in Long Point. I've not heard or experienced that. I'm not convinced that Sprechenfenster is the same as Long Point. Dobringer seems to imply that Sprechenfenster is not a guard, but a technique done from the Upper or Lower Hangings, or Ochs and Pflug if you will.
"Comment: here learn and know that there are two hangings each side, one Unterhängen (lower hanging) and one Oberhängen (upper hanging) with which you can get at his sword well, because these come from the Oberhau and Unterhau (high strike and low strike). If it now happens that you bind with your opponent on purpose or without so you should well stay at the sword and use the winding. So you can stand happily with relaxed mind and without fear at the sword and see, notice and wait for what he tries to do next; and what his plan is he intends to execute. And the standing at the sword is called the Sprechfenser (speaking window) by Liechtenauer."
Thanks again for the comment. I appreciate opinions different to my own.
Awesome stuff... love this channel.
3:42 I would go for a pommel strike 9 out of 10 times in this situation, stepping around the opponent's blade is risky (and unnecessary IMO) as they only need to turn to face you, which is a smaller movement. Still it was an interesting interpretation and clearly explained.
Intresting how people argue about Italian/German longsword on minor differences but fail to see the similarities sometimes. for example the zorn-ort is pretty similar to Fiore's first play in wide play. (you defend yourself from the incoming attack/make a cross/bind and thrust to the face/throat/chest. thats basicly a Zorn-ort just under a different name, with minor differences.) Another example is that Fiore mentions that you could/should cut the Middle height cuts like the right is with the true edge and the left is with the false, which is kinda similar to a Zwerchau (i know they are not the same without the thumbs up grip, but they do pretty similar things just a bit differently). Even the guards, they look different a bit but they do the same thing. Posta di donna is basicly Vom Tag, Posta Breve is pflug just without the side changes, posta finestra is a mix of a key and an ochs, poste di bicorno is a middle version of the key guard, longpoint longort without any changes, Porta di ferro mazzana is alber without any changes, now boar's tusk and tutta ferro are intresting ones, cause i think they look different but have the same "reason" to exist as schrankhut and weschel, and posta di coda longa has some similarities nebenhut i think.
So all in all, humans move in a certain way, we have similar bodymechanics and we are talking about kinda similar weapons aswell, so there always will be large amount of overlap in different fencing systems i think as well as differences but they will mainly be in the "mentality" part, like the princepal of attacking from the right vs learn to attack from the left, or the mastercuts vs keep yourself safe and repost etc....all works pretty well, but these are minor differences compered to the similarities in my oppinion.
Johannes Sigiward Fechter, thanks for commenting with your thoughts. I agree that the other side refers to the sword. The text is talking about Abnehmen, of which the Zucken is but a specific example. Don't limit yourself if the text does not. The Zucken is great to do, though I don't believe it says to never step with the Zucken, but is certainly not the only option.
"This is possible because as it's described in the text, you do not step and Zornhau at the same..." The text does NOT speak of the timing of stepping in regards to striking the Zornhau and thrusting the Ort. You are adding your own ideas, or the ideas of others, to the text. Stay open-minded.
We are always open to other interpretations. You clearly are not, whoever you are.
***** Oh my God! I'm sorry that I had not seen this until now. I apologize if you thought that I deleted such a gem. You are welcome to come test my art any time you like. I am sorry that you feel that way, but I have tried to be nothing but professional to you, something that you have failed to do. I have been open to your ideas, agreeing with some and disagreeing with others. You have not returned the courtesy, showing your own closed mind and limited understanding. God bless.
Very nice. For me I find interpretive inspiration in Fiore's First Largo Master, whose plays pretty much mimic the Zornhaw and its follow ups (thrust to the face if you win the bind and he is "soft", strike over and around if he wins the bind and is "hard"). Coincidentally, there is no step mentioned in these plays just as there is no step mentioned in some of the German glosses as well; at the most you merely advance the left foot forward for the thrust or to the left for the abnehmen. Ive seen some purely German clubs interpret it this way too. Interesting. Thanks for sharing this video! :) Keep up the good work.
I've also done it without a step. That may be correct. Everything preceding this play, at least in MS 3227a, drives home the point of taking steps with the attacks, so I'm hesitant to assume that not mentioning steps means not stepping. Perhaps the step is only necessary at certain ranges? Thanks for the thoughts!
Sword Carolina Hi, from my experience when you need to do backward step while doing zornhaw your distance is incorrect - the one who is attacking is too close and vulnerable to attacks in vor to hands. Also we don't use zornhaw as offensive action, basic vorschlag is better for this, no point to attack with cut which is not targeted on the opponent.
Daniel Mattas Thanks for the thoughts; I appreciate them. I don't follow all of what you are saying, but I know people have different opinions about the techniques. I'm cool with that.
I would say that there is not only one distance that you would find yourself fighting from. Reality is variety. We don't pigeonhole ourselves into only one stylized version of a drill. Were you in an actual fight, you will find yourself at different ranges based on the style of fencing your opponent is using and what he is intending on doing next. You can't rely on your opponent to cooperate with you. If I am fencing in the Nach, having different footwork at my disposal allows me to control the range, not just mindlessly step with forward passing steps for every technique, for instance.
The Codex Dobringer does seem to say that the Zornhau can be used in the Vor to set up the thrust to your opponent, so I'll go with that. But obviously, no one has to use it this way. I don't understand saying that the Zornhau does not target the opponent. Isn't that the point of the Zornhau, literally?
There is more than one interpretation to this and to every technique in HEMA. I do appreciate you sharing your opinion.
Always cut to the man; never the sword. Cut to his weapon, and he will defeat you easily with durchweseln, or any other technique he likes. Dobringer specifically states this, and it is a martial concept present in other martial arts I have done, such as Wing Chun, where we are always reminded "never to chase hands" but rather to "occupy the lines by which we can attack the opponent, and the opponent can attack us;" fencing theory is no different. Lines of attack are subtle, and you can attack your opponent directly whilst still covering yourself. The advantage is, if your weapon is a threat to him, he must bind. If your weapon is not an immediate a threat to him, he may move it and attack you elsewhere as he pleases, denying you that initial bind, as you have merely cut at his sword -- which can move quickly -- and not his body.
durchwechsel*
Thanks for the comment! You bring up a good point, one I really should have mentioned here. Thanks for filling in the gap. I do cover this concept in the Lesson 3 video. I agree with you in principle, but I think that this is a general rule, not necessarily true in every single case, particularly when fencing in the Nach. (Though I always admit that I could be wrong, and ask others to join me in that sentiment.)
Dobringer says in the Zornhau section "And if it happened, that the adversary got the Vorschlag (first strike) so he should be well practiced and quick with the Abwenden (turning-off) and as soon as he has turned off the (attacks of) the adversary, he should move quickly as soon as possible, and his point should always aim for the chest as you will hear now."
Again in the Zornhau section, talking about the Oberhau and Unterhau, "And from the same strikes come the four displacements from both sides, with these you break and defeat all strikes thrusts or guards and these also lead to the hangings which can be very well be used for artful techniques as you will hear later."
And earlier in the general comment, "It may happen that one has to defend the adversary´s Vorschlag. So he would defend it by getting at his sword - and if he is a little slow or indecisive so he would want to stay at the sword and use the winden and feel if the adversary wants to pull back from the bind or not."
Yes, ideally you would want to cover your line while striking him at the same time with the Zornhau. This can be difficult and dangerous, especially if your opponent has stepped toward your flank in the attack. Self-preservation is more important than opponent-destruction. If I hit him while he hits me, I have failed. As you stated, "if your weapon is a threat to him, he must bind." I agree. That goes both ways. If his weapon is a threat to you, you must bind.
Thanks!
Nick, I do find it hard to do the high guard indoors (and we have busted a few lights). Luckily for me, I do not personally like fencing from a high guard. I much prefer Vom Tag on the shoulder. Both are correct, but my personal preference is to keep my arms tight to my body unless attacking.
Jonathan Allen Interesting thought. What is the benefit of leaning forward vs. standing upright; how would it be more effective? I have no experience in armored combat. But even unarmored, I prefer keeping my balance, as the art is founded on wrestling, and we may fall into grappling at any moment.
vorn tag should be held above the head when fencing in earnest - holding at the shoulder is a training guard - to give your training partner the courtesy of showing where the strike is coming from and leaves the forearms exposed when fencing. All cuts can be thrown from the roof when held correctly above the head, without telegraphing the movement to your opponent. Just my 2 pence on the matter
Thanks for the thought, but what sources are you using to make this point? I'm not an expert in all KDF manuscripts, but I've never come across this in the ones we use (Döbringer, von Danzig, and Ringeck). I would respectfully disagree with the points you make, but I am glad that you shared them. I try to always be open to new ideas.
andrew milburn I will have to disagree. I find that holding tag as it shows in the Ringeck manuscript ensures that you are relaxed and ready to strike. I have so far had no issue with striking with speed and power from that position. You may say that the opponent knows that you will strike from your strong side, however Ringeck specifically warns against striking the first blow from your weak side.
What would you guys recomend for a good target. I've tried hitting trees but they don't work very well :) and I am the only one with a sword so I can't fight any one so I would like to find out what be good
Thanks! - May the art of the sword live on!
Yeah, trees aren't very forgiving. I made a pell that works well for us. It is made of 2x4s standing about 6' tall with four legs about 3' long. Then we wrapped it in cardboard and duct tape. It is solid enough when striking, but can move enough that you do not shock your hands and wrists too much. Another option would be a punching bag, though they can be expensive, especially should you damage them. Hope that helps!
Sword Carolina Thanks! I might try that. I just got a celtic broad sword and am really excited about trying to use it as I am a fantasy medieval finatic!
As a left-hander, it doesn't seem like zornhau-ort will be much of a go to for me, unless there is a variant for people with mirror vom tags or similar.
Nice hockey gloves!
Shouldnt he push his left hand against the pommel to create additional velocity to make the final cut faster?
Great video. It's hard to tell in the video, but do you find it hard to do High guard indoors? My sparring partner and I have a hard time finding anywhere to train indoors because all the ceilings are too low.
good day,
why do you take a whole step back with this technique?
Why don't you stay in place without moving?
Something that I kept meaning to ask about as I watched your videos, out of curiosity more than anything. Why the Dobringer manuscript?
Will nonya It is my personal favorite, and it does not seem to get as much love as some of the others.
Do you have any videos on meyers cross. All 4? I'm just beginning.
Congrats on getting started! I'm glad you found us. I don't have any videos addressing it specifically. I do have a video where I go through the order of cuts, but add thrusts as well. It might be a bit advanced, but could give you the idea. th-cam.com/video/CR9KbI86xKs/w-d-xo.html
Ok thanks I appreciate it
Hey guys what are the gloves you are using called and where can I get some because my knuckled a cut to pieces
I understand. In this video we are using hockey gloves. It is easiest to order them online. Lacrosse gloves will also work. Now, these are for our practices. When we are competing, we use HEMA specific gloves, as those available online at Purpleheart Armoury.
thank you :) our practices are basically just full on brawls with big swords so we need some armour
It's really nervous seeing them handling swords without protective masks for the face during the explanation. Eyes are too precious my friends.
where do you get your feders?
We got them from HEMA Supplies. Check out their Facebook Page, great prices and service.
facebook.com/HEMASupplies
It's looks like zornhau,but just diagnal oberhau only
You mad bastards, training without masks :') You're a lot braver than me!
At teaching speeds we sometimes work without masks. But don't worry; there's a reason we begin and end the videos with them on.
+Sword Carolina be safe. It only takes a single time to make a permanent change in someone else's life. Pros will always be mindful of taking appropriate safety steps since they know they are an example to others. Just want you guys to be safe and keep providing us all with great videos!
You guys look like twins.