I love this so much! I have had similar intuitions around Thor and mushrooms and love hearing your perspective here. I have long thought about writing an essay about this and may do so soon.
Good to see you back! I thought you were strictly into music nowadays. Love this new video! Thanks man!!! I like mushrooms, especially the magic ones here in Colorado 🍄
Hello my friend! I never left TH-cam. There's been at least one video every week for almost 8 years. I only left some other social media networks. But indeed I'm also making music with my experimental solo music project VAR UMN 🤗 take care and be safe!
I could have sworn I saw an announcement of you leaving us for your music. You seemed distraught then. Well I’m tickled pink to hear you’re not leaving us! Love you man! Keep rocking!!!! If you ever make it to Colorado, I have a studio with all the equipment. I’d love to write a song with you, I sing and play drums. Here’s an old song from a band I was in several years ago. Enjoy th-cam.com/video/PaLMhewD-kw/w-d-xo.html
You have no idea how much this gave me clarity. Thank you so much Arith. You coming back to TH-cam to stream is truly divine timing. (Well at least for me) Hope to share with you one day. May the Gods bless you and keep you safe.
I always associated the use of entheogens with Odinn due to their use in the pursuit and acquisition of knowledge and exploration of the spiritual/magical realms. This is a fresh take and something definitely worth pondering.
In this sense, dancing for rain makes all sense just as the seasonal dancings and drum beatings because vibration stimulates not only the mycelia but also all sorts of critters living underground and providing a proper frame for plants to grow from and the water to come forth from above. Beautiful take that made me more inclined to study Thor, now decolonized of the ruling class prejudices. Obrigada por todos os 500 vídeos que me acompanham diariamente há alguns anos!
Fico muito agradecido pelo comentário! Thor é uma divindade fascinante e mais complexa do que parece à primeira vista. Muito ainda por explorar e acho que animismo e ciência têm muito por desvendar ainda, e é essencial uma combinação saudável das duas. Temos percebido muito do mundo através das duas vertentes que podem muito bem apoiar-se uma à outra. Tudo de bom para aí! Abraço!
This is a new idea for me. Thank you for introducing me to it. It's close but not identical to UPG I have and have always had about Thor in spite of finding nothing about it in the lore. I won't mention what it is. I'm just waiting for academics to discovering a couple associations I have with Thor that would make sense if he were a mushroom god. I'm just too afraid of the backlash I'll get online for sharing the UPG, so I won't. Congrats on the 500th video, btw. I really enjoy your channel.
I do understand what you mean, and the internet can really be a place that completely drains our energy, as there's a lot of people who take upon themselves to dictate what we should or should not think. Which is strange, as they are strangers who contribuite with nothing to our well-being. Also, I often make a separation between the academic and UPG, because the integrity of scientific work is fundamental to help us reach the truth as much as possible, and because UPG in terms of spirituality should not be limited to what academic work can show us. In our own spiritualities, our experiences are our own, and they are not invalid just because science is not capable of proving it. Besides, as someone once said to me: Every religion originates from UPG. I have a video on "The Importance of Unverified Personal Gnosis", and if you haven't watched it yet, I'll leave the link here: th-cam.com/video/u4Pe2l4nCm8/w-d-xo.html Best of luck in your spiritual endeavours! Some things have to be kept a secret. There's no need for the world to know everything that goes on in our private lives, and that's okay. Many blessings to you!
Wow! So much information that makes sense. Thank you Arith I will have to listen to this video again to take notes. Yes I have been neglecting Thor, thank you for reminding us. Much food for thought.
My wife, a San Carlos Apache woman, bought a book some time ago, Myth's and Tales of The White Mountain Apache. One of the stories in particular centered around a boy named Monster Slayer son of The Sun. In the story the boy is gifted with certain items from another entity to help protect him and he learns how to pray from them. This helps him while undergoing tests from his father, The Sun, who is quite literally trying to kill him through these tests. I was pretty astonished about the similarities between this story and the Nordic myths.
great video i loved the way that you wove it all together with the info on mushrooms I have always known about their way of sending their roots all throgh the forest how essential they are to the eco system but i never dreamed that they could make rain , it was a wonderful piece of info , many thanks kiddo !
The part about water and Thor crossing over the river to travel between worlds reminds me that two ways to make certain kinds of hallucinogenic mushrooms somewhat less toxic involve either removing the water (drying the mushrooms) or dissolving the fungal spirit in water (e.g. boiling the ground up mushrooms with a few drops of citric acid for 30 minutes before straining and adding milk/honey to taste).
You touched on in the beginning of the sexual relationship between the storm god and the primordial serpent, this can be further expressed through the view of many ancient cultures of mushrooms as phallic symbols; some cultures even believed mushrooms grew where lightning had struck
Indeed, and it's curious to see that the areas hit by lightning, are often associated with fertility in many cultures, or some sort of gift that is then used for fertility and magical purposes. Also, megalithic cultures have a great emphasis on phallic themes connected to the telluric forces, which is something that continued to be in the minds of many European farmers throughout the ages, even to this day, associating menhirs with the fertility of the soils. Throughout the 1900s many European farmers were struggling with several authorities due to the removal of menhirs to be displayed in museums. Most farmers did not want the menhirs to be removed, afraid that the soils would wither without them. In some cases, that's exactly what happened by the removal of such megalithic monuments.
Just guessing…I sense in you what I might call a rational mystic, having re earthed yourself recently, your fierce dedication to the world and the cats I see wandering all over you…. I don’t know you, of course. I feel a Kindred Spirit in your teaching. Thank you for being in the tangible world. Your clarity is informed by all of your intricate training; in this world, in the elemental world. May you always teach! Jenn Frykman , Portland, OR
Thank you for your words, my friend. I don't know about that, but I do know that it has been quite the struggle from 2018 to 2023. But this year, things have improved and I've learned quite a lot about myself. I'm trying to be more grounded on many aspects of life, especially psycologically speaking.
Arith! Last time I saw your video, you said It might be the last one. Good to see you back! And what's more great, right away video about my favourite god.
Well, I didn't stop making videos every week hehe. I just left some social media networks, because it was overwhelming. But the videos continue. Glad to see you around, be well!
I've become kind of an atheist over the years, but I still love Donnar. This whole time I never understood why the Hammer is only ever seen as a weapon, he's first presented in the Eddas as building walls for Asgard. The Hammer is a tool for building and maintaining :) anyway, Heath to you Arith!
Do you ever read the Wheel of Time series? We got an Odin-like trickster archetypical character, an Thor-like warrior dude, some Baldr and Tyr references on the protagonist and an entire ethnical group of peoplo who only uses tools as weapons (such as the bow, the spear, the knife), or small shields - the Aiel.
I think there's several different folk dieties that eventually culminated into a singular Odin. In my visions Odin, or what I call Odin, is a psychopomp in grey robes. Very much a Shamanic Being.
"Mycorrhizal fungi" also grow into the roots of plants and trees allowing for forests, and the trees help to create precipitation and more rain, which which the fungi love. The water also helps the fungi decompose a tree struck by lightning, or after a forest fire the fungi help to colonize the waste land and getting it growing against, turning the remains back into soil to recycle into the forest. So also of course farmers could not help but be aware of the mushrooms growing in their cow fields.
The nail in the coffin for understanding animism and the power of the 'gods' is giving them a human identity. Humans cherry pick States and traits for what they must look and behave like as humans. Humans have danced, cursed and prospered in regards to weather, sky, sea and land 'gods or devils' farmers, fisherman etc have a deep understanding of the weather and the earth. Thanks again Arith. 😊
I adore your animistic views on Thor. Truthfully, your channel is one of the reasons why my practices have switched to a more animistic angle than trying to be reconstructionist...because what are we really reconstructing? I have always seen Thor as a god of tenacity. He wasn't a war god, but he was who the gods sent to get things done. A finisher. I have always felt more drawn to his aspects as a god of the earth itself rather than an oaf with a hammer. I feel he, like Freyja, have been given a lot of disservice when it comes to how I feel they "really" are. Not to mix pantheons too much, but I have often felt them to be more akin to the Irish deities The Dagda and The Morrigan. Not to get too deep into the weeds, but a lot of the aspects I have found with my UPG paints both of them into a much more "of the earth and fertility" than Angry Dumb Guy Smashes Stuff and Pretty Lady Goddess Is Used As A Prize/Bargaining chip. Thank you as always, for your nuance, especially regarding one of the deities closest to my heart and practice.
Thank you very much for your words and feedback my friend. I do get what you are saying! If we tend to see the gods as persons, in the animistic sense of it, and as forces/energies, we do recognize the same sort of energy in others. In the end, in our practices, much of what we do is precisely working with such energies and how they are manifested in the world and through us, but also through the contact with such persons. An exchange of thought, which by itself is an exchange of energies.
I have always felt more of a connection with Donar. Wotan is an amazing God in every sense of the word and I do honor him. But Donar is the protector, he is the guardian, he is as a God what I aspire to be as a human. Donar is easier to connect with in my opinion. Great video as always and congrats on the milestone!
interesting as always. in etruscan religion, the very little we know of it, Tinia (a storm god analogous to zeus or Jupiter but the name atleast is thought linguistically to be uniquely etruscan) was apparently not the only god who could use the lightning bolt... also, one of the very few surviving examples of etruscan religious literature is the Brontoscopic calandar, basically Brontoscopy was the art of divining by observing thunder (or i guess lightning? confusingly bronto is greek for "thunder" and scopy literally translates as "to see"). the text as its come down to us (in the greek language) is surprisingly complete and details what auspicious or inauspicious effect might be divined from thunder on a particular day... eg 6th of September, as i write this, it says: " If in any way it should thunder, there shall be power among the women greater than [what is] appropriate to their nature." ...no joke where im at in england its been pissing down all day, i aint heard thunder yet but im avoiding all contact with women today just in case 🙅 sorry ladies... anyway yeah looks like etruscans put alot of importance in not just their storm god but the lightening bolt/thunder clap itself as a means of communicating divine intention or something, which i think is interesting...
Vision très intéressante. Merci pour ton exposé des faits. Je m'y retrouve un peu. Bon peut-être pas à dire que Thor est un champignon mais je comprends l'idée.👍
I’ve always felt the giants were more aligned with the chaotic forces of nature, or the destructive/devouring forces of nature. The Gods seem to be more aligned with creating/growing forces of nature. I dont know if that is exactly right but has always been a good way for me to get a basic explanation to people In a discussion. It seems to help make it click in their heads better
My recent ancestors were from the Westphalia area of present day Germany. They were farmers that migrated. This resonates with something deep……. Farmers are coupled to nature and weather like flowers are to the bee. They are one. 👁️👁️
Indeed, it is true. There seems to have been a great syncretism of deities into the figure of Odin, and not just Eurasian divine conceptions, and not just Scandinavian local ones. Odin has too many similarities with Hindu and Iranian deities. Even the presence of Wotan in Germanic belief sytems, and of Odin in Nordic ones, always give the impression of Odin being quite "foreigner" to the entire religious and divine conceptions of these geographical areas (which many modern Heathens consider Odin to be foreigner indeed). But no doubt, the shamanic themes of Odin fit well into circumpolar traditions such as Siberian and Saami, as well as into Classical Hellenistic and Latin conceptions.
@@ArithHärger there's algo the syncretism of Odysseus (the archetypical "greek")/Ulysses (the "bad" romanic version of the same dude) done by Snorri Sturluson with Odin/Wotan.
It's interesting to see that Thor, despite the great focus on fertility and as a storm deity related to the earth, isn't a Vanir, but he is not quite Aesir either. He ends up being a "threshold" deity, and as I've pointed out, being the only Nordic deity that can freely walk between the realm of the divine and the realm of humans (and other realms), much like Loki, the trickster spirit, and both coming together on many adventures. Thor is far more complex and interesting than just a brutish, impulsive farmer, hehehe.
hey brother, just watching this now, sophie strand is a wonderful author that has lots of fun in her book "the flowering wand". she plays/works with a rigorous eye to the wisdom carried by the stories she explores. if u do read into the book, please do a video reviewing/critiquing it! she also did a great interview with rune rasmussen, maybe you could get her on the channel too? would love to see a discussion between the two of you.
Wouldn't Odin fit more a role of mushroom guy? Odin associated with colour lightblue - colour of early dead body - death associated with underground/earth and with his constant Midgard travels, it all kinda seems more earthly related and similar in some aspects to Veles or Cernunos. I'll explain further. + I don't know if it's been proved or not, but I want to mention claims about berserks (odin cult) taking magic mushrooms during rituals. Also during cold and wet weathers mushrooms can also grow in and on dead bodies during first days, when body is still relatively pale, which could have been seen around post-battlefields. Týr was probably more of a sky diety, atleast once. Tiwaz - Teus - Zeus - Deus. But Odin being even maker of life, could have been present in or assosiacet with all of life. And fungi are our oldest relatives, older than plants. Odin/Life(Fungi) + Jord(Earth) = humidity = atmosphere = Thor(Storm) (KHOLDKHNT/SPITZBORG)
When you write fantasy, you should be able to express whatever you want. Any character is the freedom of your expression. They become whatever you want them to be. Although, if mushroom people have an individuality to themselves, perhaps some are good, some less good, and others bad and deadly. Just like mushrooms and all their diverse existence hehehe
@@ArithHärger 4 me: Ullr sort of built his self up. Embrace hard times and see positive in your challenge. Good deity 4 life & problem solving. Btw I'm archery ( longbow).
On the shamman podcast wovenegery this guy said dry trees release a chemical thing that when it reaches the clouds it forces the clouds to release rain so trees can talk to the sky
But the Sun element also impact our Earth actually in my land when we have 3 months of only hot sun our fields are burnt and our agriculture suffers.....
Personally I wouldn't read the rest of Sophie Strands mushroom-take on Thor. Thor simply represent the Orion Star Constellation where "he" is revolving and "fighting" all the other constellation figures with his also revolving hammar in his hand. Odin is of course a much larger figure in the night sky, A celestial figure which mythically constitutes the cultural omnipresent and all-knowing Alfather and Father Time in the night Sky. Omnipresent, because this Milky Way figure also revolves around the celestial Earth axis pole. There is nothing personal connected to these figures - it's only the human way of myth making which adds human like attributes to the celestial images.
Would you talk about the positive side of idol worship? I think it would help elaborate on animism. Also i just thiink of you as one of the most trustworthy people to break the internet ice on the topic outside the Abrahamic context. There is nothing online saying anything in depth positive about real veneration of objects. Just pearl clutching with no real explanation of why idols are so supposedly scandalous. And some Christian othodox rules. And some explanations of Hindu puja which isnt even idol worship.
"Thunder person". That was a struggle to hear 500 times in a row Edit: You probably should have read the whole book before titling a video Thor - God of Mushrooms then waffling on for 20+ minutes without mentioning anything to do with mushrooms
*CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR 500th VIDEO!!!* That's incredibly impressive! Sending blessings from New Zealand.
🎉👏👏👏
Many thanks my friend! All the best to you and yours! :D
Good idea to choose Thor's day for publishing a Thor video.
Thx a lot!
It's been 7 years and a half of videos every wednesday. Now it's time to change :D Thank you!
Odin also seems like a mushroom being. He wears a cloak and big hat. Mushroom architecture
Odin is the father God. Apollo is his son. And little known fact the Christian God Yahweh is the 70th son of Apollo
@@anonymouspatriotnetwork2740 the psychopomp is mercury not Apollo
You meet Odin AFTER taking the mushrooms, gotta get across the rainbow bridge!
@@anonymouspatriotnetwork2740 that sounds like some UPG to me
@@anonymouspatriotnetwork2740 Apollodorus ArrowOddr
I'm a simple other than human person:
I see arith video, I click
Thank you :D hehehe
Same here my dude
I love this so much! I have had similar intuitions around Thor and mushrooms and love hearing your perspective here. I have long thought about writing an essay about this and may do so soon.
Very, very, useful thanks Mr. Arith ❤
Good to see you back! I thought you were strictly into music nowadays. Love this new video! Thanks man!!! I like mushrooms, especially the magic ones here in Colorado 🍄
Hello my friend! I never left TH-cam. There's been at least one video every week for almost 8 years. I only left some other social media networks. But indeed I'm also making music with my experimental solo music project VAR UMN 🤗 take care and be safe!
I could have sworn I saw an announcement of you leaving us for your music. You seemed distraught then. Well I’m tickled pink to hear you’re not leaving us! Love you man!
Keep rocking!!!!
If you ever make it to Colorado, I have a studio with all the equipment. I’d love to write a song with you, I sing and play drums. Here’s an old song from a band I was in several years ago. Enjoy
th-cam.com/video/PaLMhewD-kw/w-d-xo.html
You have no idea how much this gave me clarity. Thank you so much Arith. You coming back to TH-cam to stream is truly divine timing. (Well at least for me) Hope to share with you one day. May the Gods bless you and keep you safe.
I'll be here for as long as it is possible, my friend. Thank you for watching and listening. Be well!
Always appreciate your thorough presentations. Great work.
I always associated the use of entheogens with Odinn due to their use in the pursuit and acquisition of knowledge and exploration of the spiritual/magical realms.
This is a fresh take and something definitely worth pondering.
As an Englishman, Thor is my prefered ancestor to worship.
In this sense, dancing for rain makes all sense just as the seasonal dancings and drum beatings because vibration stimulates not only the mycelia but also all sorts of critters living underground and providing a proper frame for plants to grow from and the water to come forth from above. Beautiful take that made me more inclined to study Thor, now decolonized of the ruling class prejudices. Obrigada por todos os 500 vídeos que me acompanham diariamente há alguns anos!
Are you familiar with Paul Stamets yet? I find his take on mycology quite the animistic one!
Fico muito agradecido pelo comentário! Thor é uma divindade fascinante e mais complexa do que parece à primeira vista. Muito ainda por explorar e acho que animismo e ciência têm muito por desvendar ainda, e é essencial uma combinação saudável das duas. Temos percebido muito do mundo através das duas vertentes que podem muito bem apoiar-se uma à outra. Tudo de bom para aí! Abraço!
@@michelevalent-gastroterapi4360 I'll have to take a look! Thank you!
This is a new idea for me. Thank you for introducing me to it. It's close but not identical to UPG I have and have always had about Thor in spite of finding nothing about it in the lore. I won't mention what it is. I'm just waiting for academics to discovering a couple associations I have with Thor that would make sense if he were a mushroom god. I'm just too afraid of the backlash I'll get online for sharing the UPG, so I won't. Congrats on the 500th video, btw. I really enjoy your channel.
I do understand what you mean, and the internet can really be a place that completely drains our energy, as there's a lot of people who take upon themselves to dictate what we should or should not think. Which is strange, as they are strangers who contribuite with nothing to our well-being. Also, I often make a separation between the academic and UPG, because the integrity of scientific work is fundamental to help us reach the truth as much as possible, and because UPG in terms of spirituality should not be limited to what academic work can show us. In our own spiritualities, our experiences are our own, and they are not invalid just because science is not capable of proving it. Besides, as someone once said to me: Every religion originates from UPG. I have a video on "The Importance of Unverified Personal Gnosis", and if you haven't watched it yet, I'll leave the link here:
th-cam.com/video/u4Pe2l4nCm8/w-d-xo.html
Best of luck in your spiritual endeavours! Some things have to be kept a secret. There's no need for the world to know everything that goes on in our private lives, and that's okay. Many blessings to you!
Wow! So much information that makes sense. Thank you Arith I will have to listen to this video again to take notes. Yes I have been neglecting Thor, thank you for reminding us. Much food for thought.
It's been a pleasure my good friend. Thank you so much for watching, as always. Be well and kind to yourself! :D
My wife, a San Carlos Apache woman, bought a book some time ago, Myth's and Tales of The White Mountain Apache. One of the stories in particular centered around a boy named Monster Slayer son of The Sun. In the story the boy is gifted with certain items from another entity to help protect him and he learns how to pray from them. This helps him while undergoing tests from his father, The Sun, who is quite literally trying to kill him through these tests.
I was pretty astonished about the similarities between this story and the Nordic myths.
Sempre esaustivo , spieghi tutto molto bene , grazie caro Arith ! ❤️
Hail and good tidings! ❤ lovely video analysis and understanding.
Thank you very much my friend!
Nice to see you again, cant wait for friday😗
Thank you Arith, always compelling.
Thank you for watching!
I like Thor, he's a good lad and this is a very interesting video, thank you for sharing Arith.
Congratulations on your 500th video! 🎉
Thank you my friend!!!
great video i loved the way that you wove it all together with the info on mushrooms I have always known about their way of sending their roots all throgh the forest how essential they are to the eco system but i never dreamed that they could make rain , it was a wonderful piece of info , many thanks kiddo !
The part about water and Thor crossing over the river to travel between worlds reminds me that two ways to make certain kinds of hallucinogenic mushrooms somewhat less toxic involve either removing the water (drying the mushrooms) or dissolving the fungal spirit in water (e.g. boiling the ground up mushrooms with a few drops of citric acid for 30 minutes before straining and adding milk/honey to taste).
Thank you for another informative video, Arith. Happy 500th video, too!! Congratulations, my dear friend 🖤
Thank you very much dearest!
This was so interesting, thank you! 🍄
You touched on in the beginning of the sexual relationship between the storm god and the primordial serpent, this can be further expressed through the view of many ancient cultures of mushrooms as phallic symbols; some cultures even believed mushrooms grew where lightning had struck
Indeed, and it's curious to see that the areas hit by lightning, are often associated with fertility in many cultures, or some sort of gift that is then used for fertility and magical purposes. Also, megalithic cultures have a great emphasis on phallic themes connected to the telluric forces, which is something that continued to be in the minds of many European farmers throughout the ages, even to this day, associating menhirs with the fertility of the soils. Throughout the 1900s many European farmers were struggling with several authorities due to the removal of menhirs to be displayed in museums. Most farmers did not want the menhirs to be removed, afraid that the soils would wither without them. In some cases, that's exactly what happened by the removal of such megalithic monuments.
Eu amei a aula. Isso explica muitas coisas rsrs. 🤘🤘🤘💜💜
Thank you…..I REALLY needed this today……Peace, my Brother ❤
Peace to you my friend, be well!
Interesting perspective.
Just guessing…I sense in you what I might call a rational mystic, having re earthed yourself recently, your fierce dedication to the world and the cats I see wandering all over you…. I don’t know you, of course. I feel a Kindred Spirit in your teaching. Thank you for being in the tangible world. Your clarity is informed by all of your intricate training; in this world, in the elemental world. May you always teach!
Jenn Frykman , Portland, OR
Thank you for your words, my friend. I don't know about that, but I do know that it has been quite the struggle from 2018 to 2023. But this year, things have improved and I've learned quite a lot about myself. I'm trying to be more grounded on many aspects of life, especially psycologically speaking.
Congratulations.....Love your stuff kick on love it ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜🤍💥
Excellent video, as always.
Arith! Last time I saw your video, you said It might be the last one. Good to see you back! And what's more great, right away video about my favourite god.
Well, I didn't stop making videos every week hehe. I just left some social media networks, because it was overwhelming. But the videos continue. Glad to see you around, be well!
@@ArithHärger oh, now I understand. Back then I thought that you're putting it down to do music.
Wow interesting a must-read 💚🌿🐾🙏🏼
Yes, your video is useful.
Thor is like Freya and other vans , is a nature God.
Interesting to discuss this connection with nature gods
Great video! Thanks from sacramento california
Thank you! Many blessings to you!
I've become kind of an atheist over the years, but I still love Donnar. This whole time I never understood why the Hammer is only ever seen as a weapon, he's first presented in the Eddas as building walls for Asgard. The Hammer is a tool for building and maintaining :) anyway, Heath to you Arith!
Do you ever read the Wheel of Time series? We got an Odin-like trickster archetypical character, an Thor-like warrior dude, some Baldr and Tyr references on the protagonist and an entire ethnical group of peoplo who only uses tools as weapons (such as the bow, the spear, the knife), or small shields - the Aiel.
Great vid👌
Brilliant insights 🔥
🌩 even looks like a 🍄
yes I've been reading it as well
I appreciate your thoughtful interpretation
Blessings,❤,😊.
Many blessings to you my friend!
Great video.
I think there's several different folk dieties that eventually culminated into a singular Odin.
In my visions Odin, or what I call Odin, is a psychopomp in grey robes. Very much a Shamanic Being.
you're a psychopomp lol
"Mycorrhizal fungi" also grow into the roots of plants and trees allowing for forests, and the trees help to create precipitation and more rain, which which the fungi love. The water also helps the fungi decompose a tree struck by lightning, or after a forest fire the fungi help to colonize the waste land and getting it growing against, turning the remains back into soil to recycle into the forest. So also of course farmers could not help but be aware of the mushrooms growing in their cow fields.
❤ what more can I say really
Great ❤
The nail in the coffin for understanding animism and the power of the 'gods' is giving them a human identity. Humans cherry pick States and traits for what they must look and behave like as humans. Humans have danced, cursed and prospered in regards to weather, sky, sea and land 'gods or devils' farmers, fisherman etc have a deep understanding of the weather and the earth. Thanks again Arith. 😊
I adore your animistic views on Thor. Truthfully, your channel is one of the reasons why my practices have switched to a more animistic angle than trying to be reconstructionist...because what are we really reconstructing?
I have always seen Thor as a god of tenacity. He wasn't a war god, but he was who the gods sent to get things done. A finisher. I have always felt more drawn to his aspects as a god of the earth itself rather than an oaf with a hammer. I feel he, like Freyja, have been given a lot of disservice when it comes to how I feel they "really" are.
Not to mix pantheons too much, but I have often felt them to be more akin to the Irish deities The Dagda and The Morrigan. Not to get too deep into the weeds, but a lot of the aspects I have found with my UPG paints both of them into a much more "of the earth and fertility" than Angry Dumb Guy Smashes Stuff and Pretty Lady Goddess Is Used As A Prize/Bargaining chip.
Thank you as always, for your nuance, especially regarding one of the deities closest to my heart and practice.
Thank you very much for your words and feedback my friend. I do get what you are saying! If we tend to see the gods as persons, in the animistic sense of it, and as forces/energies, we do recognize the same sort of energy in others. In the end, in our practices, much of what we do is precisely working with such energies and how they are manifested in the world and through us, but also through the contact with such persons. An exchange of thought, which by itself is an exchange of energies.
That was super interesting
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Muy interesante!
I have always felt more of a connection with Donar. Wotan is an amazing God in every sense of the word and I do honor him. But Donar is the protector, he is the guardian, he is as a God what I aspire to be as a human. Donar is easier to connect with in my opinion.
Great video as always and congrats on the milestone!
Awesome video, love the lecture ❤👍
Thank you for listening!
This is very interesting!
interesting as always. in etruscan religion, the very little we know of it, Tinia (a storm god analogous to zeus or Jupiter but the name atleast is thought linguistically to be uniquely etruscan) was apparently not the only god who could use the lightning bolt... also, one of the very few surviving examples of etruscan religious literature is the Brontoscopic calandar, basically Brontoscopy was the art of divining by observing thunder (or i guess lightning? confusingly bronto is greek for "thunder" and scopy literally translates as "to see"). the text as its come down to us (in the greek language) is surprisingly complete and details what auspicious or inauspicious effect might be divined from thunder on a particular day... eg 6th of September, as i write this, it says:
" If in any way it should thunder, there shall be power among the women greater than [what is] appropriate to their nature."
...no joke where im at in england its been pissing down all day, i aint heard thunder yet but im avoiding all contact with women today just in case 🙅 sorry ladies... anyway yeah looks like etruscans put alot of importance in not just their storm god but the lightening bolt/thunder clap itself as a means of communicating divine intention or something, which i think is interesting...
Vision très intéressante. Merci pour ton exposé des faits. Je m'y retrouve un peu. Bon peut-être pas à dire que Thor est un champignon mais je comprends l'idée.👍
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I’ve always felt the giants were more aligned with the chaotic forces of nature, or the destructive/devouring forces of nature. The Gods seem to be more aligned with creating/growing forces of nature. I dont know if that is exactly right but has always been a good way for me to get a basic explanation to people In a discussion. It seems to help make it click in their heads better
My recent ancestors were from the Westphalia area of present day Germany. They were farmers that migrated. This resonates with something deep……. Farmers are coupled to nature and weather like flowers are to the bee. They are one. 👁️👁️
Odin fits a Shamanic/psychopomp archetypes.
I think there's several different folk dieties that eventually culminated into a singular Odin.
Indeed, it is true. There seems to have been a great syncretism of deities into the figure of Odin, and not just Eurasian divine conceptions, and not just Scandinavian local ones. Odin has too many similarities with Hindu and Iranian deities. Even the presence of Wotan in Germanic belief sytems, and of Odin in Nordic ones, always give the impression of Odin being quite "foreigner" to the entire religious and divine conceptions of these geographical areas (which many modern Heathens consider Odin to be foreigner indeed). But no doubt, the shamanic themes of Odin fit well into circumpolar traditions such as Siberian and Saami, as well as into Classical Hellenistic and Latin conceptions.
@ArithHärger when I've met Odin in visions, he came as the Hermes mercurial psychomp figure. I have not witnessed the war archetypes... yet.
@@ArithHärger there's algo the syncretism of Odysseus (the archetypical "greek")/Ulysses (the "bad" romanic version of the same dude) done by Snorri Sturluson with Odin/Wotan.
i feel like the introduction sort of sums up why i like thor so much. he just feels so much more in line with my own egalitarianism and anti elitism
It's interesting to see that Thor, despite the great focus on fertility and as a storm deity related to the earth, isn't a Vanir, but he is not quite Aesir either. He ends up being a "threshold" deity, and as I've pointed out, being the only Nordic deity that can freely walk between the realm of the divine and the realm of humans (and other realms), much like Loki, the trickster spirit, and both coming together on many adventures. Thor is far more complex and interesting than just a brutish, impulsive farmer, hehehe.
Happy 500th video!!! 🎉
Hehe thank you!!!
hey brother, just watching this now, sophie strand is a wonderful author that has lots of fun in her book "the flowering wand". she plays/works with a rigorous eye to the wisdom carried by the stories she explores.
if u do read into the book, please do a video reviewing/critiquing it!
she also did a great interview with rune rasmussen, maybe you could get her on the channel too? would love to see a discussion between the two of you.
Wouldn't Odin fit more a role of mushroom guy? Odin associated with colour lightblue - colour of early dead body - death associated with underground/earth and with his constant Midgard travels, it all kinda seems more earthly related and similar in some aspects to Veles or Cernunos. I'll explain further. + I don't know if it's been proved or not, but I want to mention claims about berserks (odin cult) taking magic mushrooms during rituals. Also during cold and wet weathers mushrooms can also grow in and on dead bodies during first days, when body is still relatively pale, which could have been seen around post-battlefields. Týr was probably more of a sky diety, atleast once. Tiwaz - Teus - Zeus - Deus. But Odin being even maker of life, could have been present in or assosiacet with all of life. And fungi are our oldest relatives, older than plants. Odin/Life(Fungi) + Jord(Earth) = humidity = atmosphere = Thor(Storm)
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Greetings friend!
The lighting hammer can be a shroom being the psilocybin makes your body buzz like a electrical current running threw you.
While watching the original Godzilla movie - an Earthquake Giant! , like we have here in California- we don’t have Frost Giants though.
So if I write a fantasy book and want mushroom people would they be helpful good people who protect nature?
When you write fantasy, you should be able to express whatever you want. Any character is the freedom of your expression. They become whatever you want them to be. Although, if mushroom people have an individuality to themselves, perhaps some are good, some less good, and others bad and deadly. Just like mushrooms and all their diverse existence hehehe
Imma old soldier. Seen hardship. Odin & thor mighty, no doubt . I'm more closer to Ullr worship type of guy. Thank you for a pro heathen podcast.
Ullr can be quite the calming entity, in a very therapeutic way, of sorts. Many blessings to you!
@@ArithHärger 4 me: Ullr sort of built his self up. Embrace hard times and see positive in your challenge. Good deity 4 life & problem solving. Btw I'm archery ( longbow).
Archery ( longbow) my meditation (zen) .
On the shamman podcast wovenegery this guy said dry trees release a chemical thing that when it reaches the clouds it forces the clouds to release rain so trees can talk to the sky
Thor makes the lightning come down, and his hammer always comes back to em.... Thor is Gravity, i hear before.
Interesting. I still see the Annunaki connection hundred thousand years ago. I know that i know noting.
The "river" are the Red Ocean.
Jabha El Tor - Jabha El Moses - or Mt Sinai ,say nine.
I am a simple, neurodivergent, kinda queer pagan. I see mushrooms, I see Norse gods, I click.
Spoilers:
visit from the host's cat.
But the Sun element also impact our Earth actually in my land when we have 3 months of only hot sun our fields are burnt and our agriculture suffers.....
Personally I wouldn't read the rest of Sophie Strands mushroom-take on Thor.
Thor simply represent the Orion Star Constellation where "he" is revolving and "fighting" all the other constellation figures with his also revolving hammar in his hand.
Odin is of course a much larger figure in the night sky,
A celestial figure which mythically constitutes the cultural omnipresent and all-knowing Alfather and Father Time in the night Sky. Omnipresent, because this Milky Way figure also revolves around the celestial Earth axis pole.
There is nothing personal connected to these figures - it's only the human way of myth making which adds human like attributes to the celestial images.
Would you talk about the positive side of idol worship? I think it would help elaborate on animism. Also i just thiink of you as one of the most trustworthy people to break the internet ice on the topic outside the Abrahamic context. There is nothing online saying anything in depth positive about real veneration of objects. Just pearl clutching with no real explanation of why idols are so supposedly scandalous. And some Christian othodox rules. And some explanations of Hindu puja which isnt even idol worship.
"Thunder person". That was a struggle to hear 500 times in a row
Edit: You probably should have read the whole book before titling a video Thor - God of Mushrooms then waffling on for 20+ minutes without mentioning anything to do with mushrooms
Happy to see your life's struggles can easily be solved: just don't watch the video :V
If you’re gonna say “Theme” as “Deem” … say “Thunder” as “Dunder” … keep it consistent
Thank you for the hint! :D
Edit: Sorry, I should say "Dank you" ;D
Eu amei a aula. Isso explica muitas coisas rsrs. 🤘🤘🤘💜💜