He's desperately trying to pretend it's not the easiest role while showing himself playing Ana sitting a corner healing people while barely getting focused, Kirikos flanking him because they can freely do that thanks to suzu and teleport and he then constantly dies because he stupidly exposes himself. I sure wonder how someone this dumb and bad got to top 500.
@@_Xds_ Because the support role is mega busted. When support wasn't this broken he was Plat in OW1 he's actually a bad player and his takes show that. He needs to simp to keep support strong because they don't want to fall back to Plat.
If you only heal as ana you normally wouldn't climb that much. And if I would flank as a kiriko I just know my team will be dead while I do that because they can't stay alive for one second without me
This is how you know ranked is dead. I was high plat on support in ow1 and when ow2 came out the game boosted me all the way up to gm3. I had plenty of bad cards (when you needed 7 wins for a card) like between 7-7 and 7-10, and every single one of them ranked me up. Praying to the lord that season 9 fixes it but its very unlikely
@@genghiskhan6809 completely irrelevant… I swear support players are actually brain dead. I’ll help you out buddy, the point of his comment is that although he plays tank most of the time he can get the highest rank possibly, by accident, on support. I’m sure he’s a great player and that’s the biggest factor but I’d be willing to bet money he wouldn’t have as easy a time getting the highest rank as a dps.
@@ozylocz4078 Exactly lol. Same btw for me. I mostly play tank (gm2) n sometimes dps, hadn't played supp since start of ow2. Conclusion; I got my peak on support gm1, didn't grind 50 games but mostly got top500 lobbies. I don't even know how the role works.... The role is stupid man and I refuse to abuse this free SR token machine, giving GM to anyone that touches it once.
@@ozylocz4078 bro I try on DPS and struggle to keep high masters most of the time, and my tank is GM3 so it's not like I'm struggling there, I just have yet to climb past it.
Support takes less skill to play But therefore your game is more determined by your teammate's performance Support + queing with good players is free rank up
Not true, your game is more determined by your performance if you're on the role that has the most impact. Plenty more games are won/lost because of support play, not the other roles
@@luminen4051 You can heal a dummy all day and that won't help them aim or kill anything. You go do it yourself and not babysit, they die almost immediately. I like support but playing DPS is easier to win a match for me.
All roles have a high skill ceiling. Support is currently disproportionately impactful relative to skill. So, skilled supports can rank up a little faster, but they need the skill. Tanks, and even dps can feel at the mercy of their support players right now. That's a feeling that exists for various reasons but it's frequently voiced, and while support mains might not agree, it's tanks and dps that have that feeling and are unhappy with the state of the game. If you feel you can't create a win condition, but any mistake on your part creates a loss, playing is just stressful, not fun. The idea that supports give "free value" is dubious. Moira and Brig a little, but that's just the mechanical aspect, no support can carry without good game sense. The issue isn't free value, it's the disproportionate value a high skill can bring, mixed with the - justifiable - feeling that other roles have that even braindead use of support cooldowns shuts down everything they do. Personally, I'd say support may rank up a little faster, but if you want to improve your game sense faster, play dps - because the feedback there is so much clearer; and then you can transfer that sense back to support or tank later.
Every role has characterser that's easy that gets alot of value and I don't like how u put tanks at the bottom there I'm not saying it's the hardest but you can clearly tell what ur doing wrong. u don't need to play dps for that, support too hard disagree it does help to play other roles though if u only play 1 role for the experience
Ok but support does have way more sustain than other roles. Kiriko might be mechanically hard to do dmg with. But you don't have to do dmg. That's the whole issue. You can healbot on supp and just win. How you ask? Because of their broken abilities. Kiriko can healbot because of how good kitsune & tp, cleanse are. Ana can healbot as long as she uses nade, sleep correctly. You don't need as good positioning, you don't need as good game sense. As long as you use your abilities right, you win. Tank & dps do not have the luxury to play this way
@@vroy9170 this. im not arguing that any role is the hardest either. but i assume climbing on mercy would be the hardest support to climb on. she is so reliant on her team. she can valk at right time and maybe get a few picks on low hp targets, but what else could se do if her teammates overextend, or feed, waste ults, get ulted, etc. i actually would love to see a mercy player climb from low ranks because of this reason. or especially in season 9, i believer her value will go down and the best thing about her may just remain to be her rez ability.
Yeah I mean Mercy is a beam character. Even her ult just enables teammates. She has no skill ability or high risk high reward play making. This is why she's so hard to carry with. And it's how she should stay imo. It's a character for people who don't have aim
Why does anyone listen to this guy? He was hard stuck Plat/Metal ranks for 30 seasons in OW1. It wasn't until OW2 and the release of Kiri and the other buffs to make support broken where he actually climbed. Their still complete trash on both Tank and DPS its why their so against any support changes because don't belong in it and you can tell by everything spewed from his mouth. He says a lot without actually saying anything or answering any question he proposes. I know Sam pointed it out but Dafran was ahead of curve years ago as I saw it live on his stream when he made the list DPS are the most skilled players bar none in the game and support players being the worst. This guy legit proves it by being Plat for 900 years and all of a sudden climbing to GM.
I agree. As a support with multiple accounts I went 5-0, 5-2 in gm games then proceeded to go 5-5 or 5-6 in diamond games. However when I play tank, I either win hard or just lose if the other tank is better. Tank is easy to climb when you're better but you can have a smurf gm support and not even know it cause they have little impact at times.
As someone who plays all roles I kinda agree but disagree on the last part but I do understand, like sometimes ppl just don't swap to counter but if I'm tank of dps I can just do it myself so it feels helpless
The role might be hard but one ability can counter whole ults. A good nade can auto win the fight. Unless you're in t500 support is auto win if played properly. Tank or dps don't have an auto win. They don't have sustain. They don't live after making mistakes. They cannot afk healbot. They can't stay in 1 spot and be untouchable. (Even widow can't do that unless she's hard pocketed)
@@brunoandrea4846 you Don't know what your talking about tanks are more tankier than ever in ow2 and have mitigation abilities as well and even some DPS have some nice sustain abilities, so yes you can live after making mistakes, supps are always the first ones to get flanked so your not just sitting there healbotting
Support is the backbone of every team. If the supports are dead, there is little to no sustain for the team to make plays with. Tanks are also important to the team but they are bound to support for sustain. DPS have the least amount of utility on average compared to the other roles and they mostly do damage, which can be done by the other roles as well. I found support to be a lot easier in Overwatch 2, especially with the addition of Kiriko. You get so much value for free, but you can make plays for your team as well. For example, Bap ulting and insta ooming a DPS or support, assassinating an Ana in the backline as Kiriko, or Nading a tank at the perfect to time to kill them and snowball the fight. Solo plays can be done also because of the increased self-peeling of supports and the addition of the self-healing passive.
As someone who has never played support but had hit gm1 on both other roles, i went from low gm to rank 400 playing bap, kiri, ana with only 1 season. This role is BUSTED no matter how u wanna disguise it and cope. Having barely any hours on ana and kiri i have a 65% winrate on both. Stop lying to people, this role is easy and if people can't climb its their own fault.
I think Tank is the exception because the other two roles have partners to cover their short comings. Tank has to either be in sync with everyone, or make plays solo.
@@cameronsmith4932You mean the hero that stops providing value after a person leaves plat and then becomes hard to play because she provides no value in diamond and up? Exactly! Thanks for proving my point.
Something i find interesting about support is how unaware people are off plays you make. I ranked up an account to top 200 2 seasons ago and spent longer in some ranks then other but the whole way through not a single player commented on how i was playing. I think the award for easiest role is a close call between supp and tank right now.
You really think tank might be the easiest role in the game?Absolutely not. The tank role relies way too much on the other roles to win the game, for example, if a support on the enemy team picks ana, you are completely reliant on one of your supports to pick kiriko, if an enemy dps picks pharah, you are completely reliant on one of your dps to pick a hitscan hero to deal with her. The support role relies way less on the other roles to get impact as they can heal, do damage, have movement abilities, have the best passive, have imortality abilities, have get out of jail free cards, and can negate the value of the other roles by pressing a button.
Bro tank has to be the hardest or the second hardest role I don’t know what your yappin about. Support gets the most value without any fundamental game sense or idea and they don’t get punished for their mistakes
@@crystalization6764 I mean thanks for the good luck. Support is my second lowest ranked role with tank currently being my highest. In the current state of the game without a doubt i have found dps hardest as i am currently only gm2 on it. My experience is my experience.
I started playing ranked with both dmg and tank roles being low silver and my support being gold, now both my tank and dmg rank is diamond and support is still gold. Healing isn't hard, but healing a team that isn't good/worse than the other team often just delays the inevitable.
i really wanna see him react to all of these comments here, brother you did not think this through with these takes, after the new rank system drops you won’t be a T500 player anymore guaranteed
I play primarily hanzo, but also some support (zen and kiriko) and I’d say support has been much easier to climb, my hanzo has to be on point to diff the other dps, since most good dps are trading roughly 2 final blows to deaths, however at least at my rank (console low diamond/high plat) most support go heavily negative, some 1/2 or worse. Essentially even with out much heals dps usually do okay, they fight for position try to make plays and usually kill as much as they die, however the supports I’m up against rarely ever make plays, the only time they really fight is when pushed and consequently aren’t that good at it. Basically as kiriko as long as I am fighting other supports they don’t really heal their teammates, and because they aren’t fighting that much it’s fairly easy to diff them, the end result is that while my hanzo would more often than not beat my kiri/zen, my support is usually the more impactful character, since I only lose a little killing power in exchange for healing and an easier head to head. Essentially I’m saying support players, especially the exclusively support players are very passive and easy to dual whereas the average dps is aggressive and proactive. Maybe that changes in higher ranks but I’m not there yet
My guy I managed to hit Masters trolling as Lucio, now imagine if I were to play a busted character like Kiriko and take things a tiddy bit more serious. Support is the easiest role by FAR.
If value floor is the biggest that means that person with equal skill in all roles will get best sr on support, and in my experience most support players have best sr on support role, while tank and dps have almost the same sr on support as their main roles(idk why but i with gm and masters and since such skilled players have really good fundamentals that can skew the results) Also i agree with u on take that if u a very good player-best role to rank up is dps, until i remeber that raidboss(baptis) is support, kiriko is extremely good, and if u reach a certain skill freshold she becomes terrifying, illiari is a dps with mercy pocket. And chars that a noobstompers and ez to play -bastion,torb,ana will give u extra sr bc it so easy to play them to beat players until plat i guess, they will by defenition boost a person who doesn deserve a higher rank until he reaches people who can counter-play the bs devs made
Support easily has the lowest floor and the ceiling is probably just after tank for lowest (now that we are in 5v5 unfortunately). DPS is just forgotten minus the one OP flavor of the season. Right now Sojourn. I play in masters and the number of support players you see with diamond tank but gold/plat DPS is disturbing. So many free win buttons on support, even when poor plays are made by the support player. Regarding 8:15 I fully disagree with that analysis. Since DPS is the least impactful you have to play well above your rank to not get 50/50 overwatch games. If you only play slightly above your rank, supports/tank can int the fight at any point to instantly lose. 90% of your impact fully relies on your team to enable it to happen in the 1st place or else get punished by an enemy support/tank cooldown.
this whole video feels like gaslighting cause almost every point you've made genuinely makes no logical sense or is a "whataboutism" idk how you unironically made this video and thought it was a good rebuttal
fair point about ana nade but at the same time, you wont get far just based in nade if you are bad at the character itself. Plus, nade isn't automatically a free win a majority of the time if not timed properly. You can keep on nading the hog the entire game but if he wasn't low any of those times, he will never die. Also, every character has some kind of "easy" ability, that's not really the problem imho.
agreed. i was thinking of that, and the fact that your tank can just keep feeding ult charge or your dps can keep overextending. the best thing a support player can do there is overextend with them and hope not to get punished for it. because even if your in a good position and your team isnt you have to rotate according to their positioning which can put you in los of widow or dive or other heroes. so basically i believe it comes down to an an individuals understanding of the game (including the hero they are playing and their team and the enemies.) obviously tho some heroes are meta and undoubtedly it would be much easier to win with those heroes.
Wait, so the take is "support is least impactful and thats why its easy to rank up despite making mistakes" or "supports isnt the easiest role to rank up on"? Whats are you eveb trying to say
It is by far the easiest please stop spreading bullshit. I swear only playing support in this game actually rots your brain. This game is currently just a bunch of pawns being controlled by kiriko and ana.
I am one of the people that believes that support is the most impactful role aswell as being the most chill in the game. (I play junkrat in gm1 and recently i played a bit of brig in m1 with barely any experience. I also ended up gm2 with rein, but tank feels so bad to play...), and i'm going to answer to the takes of this video. So, support is the most impactful : you are the one that is able to enable your whole team to make plays, you can take/secure space (brig whipshot), you can get kills by yourself (ana shot sleep nade combo), you can make tank miserable, and the ults are very powerful. I've played 16 games on support, in almost all my games, i played well and won, and there are 3 i did not do that great on where i lost. I went 11-5. So, even if my team can make me lose or win the game, it's almost always my fault if we lost. Small note about ana nade : some tanks play around you wasting your nade, so yes, the play is to almost never use nade, forcing the enemy tank to give up space because of the fear of nade. The matchup is about who's going to missplay first, and nade takes some skill in that you need to recognise when nading someone is not worth it. You mention how metro "proves" that support is easier to rank up when you're bad, compared to ther roles... Sorry but no, because support players have so much to do that they do so many mistakes. That's why it can feel easy, the other supports often do these mistakes. You won't rank up if you only healbot and then blame your dps, because you're doing the mistake of not dealing damage, without realising it. It is a mistake i see many support players do, and the ones that balance healing and dpsing the best are often going to be the one that decides which player wins the game. (i'm excluding mercy and lifeweaver here) However if you do damage, you're now allowed to do other mistakes, which makes the role feel "chill" with how many mistakes you're allowed to do and still win, compared to dps and tank (especially tank), just look at the GetQuakedOn tweet. Your "boosted" point makes no sense... each role have some sort of impact... it's just that support has the most... dps is more impactful than support on sniper maps only, where healing does not matter as much and plays are so hard to make. Also, many mercy players are boosted, yes mercy is an exception, because some mercy only rely on teammates to win, and pocketing the best player just boosts them, because they are not very skilled. I've played with a few skilled mercy players, and oh my the skill difference is HUGE. Mercy pockets are a problem in itself and is an exception to the debate. It does not mean that support is not impactful. Lastly, i play dive rat. Killing a support is so impactful that it almost guarantees a teamfight win. And their cooldown are so strong that forcing stuff such as ana's both nade and sleep still has a 35% chance fight win (in a 4v5) for my team even if i died in the process. So, in conclusion to this comment, support is the most impactful role (it has the most impactful heroes) and is the "easiest"/most chill because you're allowed to do so many mistakes. Heal diff is something that wins or loses the game way more often than dps diff or tank diff (when i see that i have excellent supports, i know the game is already won). And finally, sometimes you have a shit dps, well on support you can dps instead. But if on dps you have a shit support, you're out of luck.
I know you probably aren’t going to read this since the comment section has a good shot of being absolutely rancid, but this was actually a really REALLY good video, especially when it came to pointing out the absolute absurdity of this debate. I’ve always thought this debate was dumb but could never put my finger on why until now, thanks!
it's not rancid he just came out here defending his favorite (and probably only high ranked role) with an obvious bias and some of the worst takes and reasonings imaginable, I didn't think the idea of support being the easiest least punishable role was news to people and thought everyone knew it was the easiest.
The debate is dumb because statistics already proved support is the easiest class. Not math, but statistics. DPS players have a 4x crossover rate in GM compared to support. You know what that means? It means that a GM DPS player is 4 TIMES MORE LIKELY to become GM in other roles than a support. A support GM is 4x LESS LIKELY to have translatable skill capability, and will usually rank several ranks below GM when transitioning to DPS. This isnt math, as I repeat, this is hard fact.
I have almost equal playtime on all roles and most heroes in the game. my tank is: m4 dps: is m5 and support is m1. Support is ez just play behind your team that doesn't change regardless of what the game's balance is.
Bro doesn’t understand any Overwatch fundamentals at all. Neither does he understand the argument. The fact this dude is top 500 is proof that support is the easiest role to rank up lmao 😭
in terms of amount of easy heros dps takes the cake, junkrat hanzo torb bastion etc are very easy to get value on, but in terms of easiest heros in the game support wins easily, mercy moira and lifeweaver almost entirely rely on their team meaning the skill of the player playing them is largely inconsequential.
You say the role doesn't have that much impact but the impact of the role is its uptime and sustain. It's very hard to kill supps but if they do die you basically auto win. If you feel like the better dps&tank win. It's probably because you're healbotting. Completely relying on your team to do well and carry you. Just enabling your team shouldn't be enough to get high rank but sadly it is. With heroes like kiriko and lifeweaver 100% encouraging and boosting players. But idrc I haven't played in a month this game is lost rn
Kiriko not really because you gotta land them headshots to bet good value out of her offensively as the rest of her kit has no direct offensive utility (other than her ult but to get that more often, you have to do damage which means landing headshots anyway). Lifeweaver is just bad in OW2 because he was made to cater to OW1 style healbot playstyles.
@@genghiskhan6809 healbotting on kiri farms ult pretty fast tho. Dont get me wrong I agree this is not the right way of playing kiri. But a lot of talentless players play this way. Like the guy in this vid (no h8). N they still get high rank
what season did u hit t500... u sound like ur new to OW and just abused kiriko with a hog / mauga this season. also ur calling mercy players "egirls" L
wrong. it's easier to rank up on for both teams. all support players are a rank or two higher than they should be. it's still fair, just the support players in a match are worse than everyone else on average.
You are comparing support to support that’s not what “support is the eziest role to rank on” means support vs tank and dps not support vs support that’s comparing the same role to itself the argument is about how well you need to play to rank up on. support requires the least skill to win in most cases you get t500 on tank you are going again ppl like apply and zebra dps your going against ppl like necros or hydron nobody really cares abt top 500 support players because they r not good enough to truly be worried about besides maybe ml7 and some of the owl ppl
how did u manage to say "dps role is the least impactful so all the dps players are boosted" while its literally the OPPOSITE? if a role is less impactful youre gonna need to put in much more effort to get the wins. because that role is LESS IMPACTFUL. meaning, its impacting LESS even if ur putting the same effort as everybody else. Literally tried to explain while breaking the whole sentence down but idk it will be enough to get through ur thick skull.
Another braindead take from this guy. No way he thinks support is equal to other roles when they heal over time, have insane abilities like immos and tps then they can also out dps half the heros in the game.
I think the idea that "If supports are the most impactful, than all DPS players are boosted" is incorrect, and the question of which role is easiest/hardest is more complicated than just "X role is harder". I think maybe you should make a video where you really dive deep into what "value" is in Overwatch, and how complicated it is to actually define. Support is both the easiest to create value, and the hardest to maximize value. (disclaimer: I am in gold. These may be low rank takes.) Support is a role that has the unique ability to heal their team. Healbotting is a strategy that most would agree is fairly braindead and very easy, but it still can create a lot of value. Prime Lifeweaver was incredibly powerful with his healing output, especially in lower ranks. Almost no other role can create this much value with this little risk, making it the easiest role to get a baseline value. Will the supports who healbot win most of their games? Probably not. However, in a lot of players heads, if you have high healing as a support, you did good. Some games are genuine "support diffs" because the other supports used their cooldowns better and created more value, but it still seems like a tank and DPS diff because the supports who were diffed had a lot of healing. Support is also one of the hardest roles because, to truly maximize your value, you need to balance your cooldowns, heal your team, and do meaningful damage all at the same time, all while most likely being the most targeted person by the enemy team. If you do all these things correctly, you will be the most impactful role in the fight. However, no one is perfect, and since support is so hard to actually maximize in value, your support players will often not be the fight winners. DPS can carry and not be "boosted" by supports by simply outplaying the other team, and capitalizing on mistakes, and that is especially true in lower ranks where lots of mistakes are made. Also, while support is the most impactful, their impact is not so substantially high that their value cannot be surpassed by someone playing well in their respective role. However, theoretically, once you get into higher ranks, supports will stop making quite as many mistakes, and their true impact will start to show. You've made it into high ranks, so you should know way better than me, but I've heard these sentiments echoed by Samito, SVB, Flats, and plenty of other T500 streamers. I'm curious to hear your opinion. Also, regarding the Metro video where he showed a bunch of clips of him being bad at the end. I saw the whole video when it came out, and I feel that even if his point was to show that you can be bad at support and still reach a high rank (metro is a troll), the video showed plenty of evidence of him being really good, getting many kills and outplaying other supports, and that Kiri is a bit overtuned (PLEASE DON'T KILL ME MR. AMATERASU I KNOW YOU LIKE KIRI), so I personally feel that it shows how forgiving Overwatch as a game is, where your playing well overall and making big plays matter more than your small mistakes.
I think this is really well explained, easy value = low carry potential, diffuclt value = high carry potential, since it takes less skill difference to be expressed as "value" for high skill ceilings, low skill floor heroes.
so this is why im always complaining about my dps players when im on tank and support especially on tank, if my dps aren't pressuring the enemy team, but the enemy dps are pressuring my team, i can play as well as i like but without that extra pressure on the enemy team im gonna get rolled same thing on support, if i switch to brig to shut down an enemy sombra tracer or genji, we often win because those dps arent applying pressure anymore
Very brave of you to come out and debate your points in a video, much respect has been gained from me. My tip however would be rather than argue against yourself, bring someone else in to debate against. There is no point saying something, then instantly contradicting it. Good video nonetheless!
I'm sorry but i find this complete bs, immos on supports are the easiest things in the game ever, throwing suzu, using bap immort, using lw pull, you can't counter these. any ability you can't counter shouldn't be in the game, the most gm ranked players are gm on support, followed by tank, followed by dps. having the ability to completely override every cooldown is very over powered. I'm master 3 tank, master 5 dps, gm 3 support. btw brig has a 55% winrate across all ranks, mauga even in his op broken state had a lower winrate at 53% compared to brig. i should not be in gm 3 for support if i'm master on the other 2 roles. brig should not have this much value. and half the supports i can get to gm on way easier than the other 2 roles. this was the most brainrot video i have ever watched. You can not be serious, if you are going to comment back or trash talk me please atleast counter my points and face them first. ESPECIALLY about brig. guys please don't think this guy is serious, this is clearly a troll video.
If u play Ana or Kiri then yes ur Support climbing journey is gonna be way easier than the other Supports , Ana nade is a fight winning ability, and Kiriko is broken . The other supp are not op , Moira imo is the weakest supp and one of the weakest heroes in the game , she needs utility, players been asking for this since OW1 , the tested the necrotic Orb, didn't work , then they forgot about Moira , meanwhile they gave Zen a superman kick which is a dumb and lazy idea , gave Brig a mega barrier in ult with the old stun .
This guy was shown up by such a degree over his baseless and nonsensical take that he had to make this video. No one should listen to him. The fact he claimed soldiers healing pad was insane, and that Metro helixing the ground was stupid, shows that he has no game sense for any other role apart from support. Your takes are rooted in falsehoods and lack the base intellect of a bronze player.
As a t500 player who got you in my games, lost with you and then won against you, you going 5-19 cost us the game because we had ANOTHER kiriko 1 trick, not the enemy tank going 10-19 because i gapped him. Before you make a video on how overtuned support is or not, try not to sound like an absolute idiot, and have atleast some game statistics to back it up and maybe get better at heroes not called kiriko (i bodied you on 4 accounts). If supports really werent that easy you wouldnt be in t500 using an overtuned dlc hero. 100% a 3100sr ow1 player get some real skill lil bro 💀💀🙏🙏
yeah there are so many douchebags from Samito's video. I watched before and after Samito's video, and despite there being takes that I don't agree with, Samito's community is being idiots right now.
Support is the easiest role because every support has the luxury of not needing to peek the enemy and still get value, while having very easy to hit heals, plus there is more agency in the support role with their passive, which everyone will have soon thankfully, but thats why its the easiest to rank up on, dps always have to put themselves at risk to get value, supports do not, and tank is easily the hardest of the three, so support is the easiest.
Hey man don't get discouraged keep working on your channel and wish you the best i think this takes will be better if you try to argue this with the opposite side so you can judge how good your takes are.
Bro I gotta disagree! support is the easiest role in game! I went from gold to GM on support just by runing Kiriko and bap they take no skill. Regardless of the players skill set like a tank gap we still won because of these characters being so easy, and broken😂! And then Ana nade being broken! You a funny guy! IT Leaves ana vulnerable! The only reason ana nade is easier to hit is because of the 5v5 format! Because there is no other tank to offset that! Because you and your duo were playing the wrong match up is the reason antinade is not skillful you a clown yo 🤡!
He's desperately trying to pretend it's not the easiest role while showing himself playing Ana sitting a corner healing people while barely getting focused, Kirikos flanking him because they can freely do that thanks to suzu and teleport and he then constantly dies because he stupidly exposes himself.
I sure wonder how someone this dumb and bad got to top 500.
Hes able to be horrible and still place top 500 because duhhh he's playing support lmfaoo
@@_Xds_ Because the support role is mega busted. When support wasn't this broken he was Plat in OW1 he's actually a bad player and his takes show that. He needs to simp to keep support strong because they don't want to fall back to Plat.
If you only heal as ana you normally wouldn't climb that much. And if I would flank as a kiriko I just know my team will be dead while I do that because they can't stay alive for one second without me
This is how you know ranked is dead. I was high plat on support in ow1 and when ow2 came out the game boosted me all the way up to gm3. I had plenty of bad cards (when you needed 7 wins for a card) like between 7-7 and 7-10, and every single one of them ranked me up. Praying to the lord that season 9 fixes it but its very unlikely
I thought this guy was plat 😂
Support propaganda fr
Lil bro said he was 'theory crafting' a fucking moira pick 🤣🤦♂🤡
bro really thought he was cooking with this one too 💀
I got to GM1 on support on accident. I can't keep my alt account out of GM on support. I main doomfist.
You answered your own question on why you can’t rank up on tank.
@@genghiskhan6809 I'm a flexible player I just have a pain character I pick, but my playtime is really evenly distributed
@@genghiskhan6809 completely irrelevant… I swear support players are actually brain dead. I’ll help you out buddy, the point of his comment is that although he plays tank most of the time he can get the highest rank possibly, by accident, on support. I’m sure he’s a great player and that’s the biggest factor but I’d be willing to bet money he wouldn’t have as easy a time getting the highest rank as a dps.
@@ozylocz4078 Exactly lol. Same btw for me. I mostly play tank (gm2) n sometimes dps, hadn't played supp since start of ow2.
Conclusion;
I got my peak on support gm1, didn't grind 50 games but mostly got top500 lobbies. I don't even know how the role works.... The role is stupid man and I refuse to abuse this free SR token machine, giving GM to anyone that touches it once.
@@ozylocz4078 bro I try on DPS and struggle to keep high masters most of the time, and my tank is GM3 so it's not like I'm struggling there, I just have yet to climb past it.
I love these videos because I can react to Sam cook the fuck out of it and it’s so funny lol
Samito owns you dog
This might be the worst take I have literally ever heard, and I have to listen to myself everyday.
a-GREED
Support takes less skill to play
But therefore your game is more determined by your teammate's performance
Support + queing with good players is free rank up
Not true, your game is more determined by your performance if you're on the role that has the most impact. Plenty more games are won/lost because of support play, not the other roles
@@luminen4051 You can heal a dummy all day and that won't help them aim or kill anything. You go do it yourself and not babysit, they die almost immediately. I like support but playing DPS is easier to win a match for me.
@@luminen4051 do you have a single fact to back that up or are you just a reddit parrot
@@SolidNitrox Support can do damage and kill people just like dps
@@luminen4051 they can kill sure, but some DPS entire kits are offensive. The killing potential is much higher for DPS.
Average Kiriko main takes
All roles have a high skill ceiling. Support is currently disproportionately impactful relative to skill. So, skilled supports can rank up a little faster, but they need the skill. Tanks, and even dps can feel at the mercy of their support players right now. That's a feeling that exists for various reasons but it's frequently voiced, and while support mains might not agree, it's tanks and dps that have that feeling and are unhappy with the state of the game. If you feel you can't create a win condition, but any mistake on your part creates a loss, playing is just stressful, not fun. The idea that supports give "free value" is dubious. Moira and Brig a little, but that's just the mechanical aspect, no support can carry without good game sense. The issue isn't free value, it's the disproportionate value a high skill can bring, mixed with the - justifiable - feeling that other roles have that even braindead use of support cooldowns shuts down everything they do. Personally, I'd say support may rank up a little faster, but if you want to improve your game sense faster, play dps - because the feedback there is so much clearer; and then you can transfer that sense back to support or tank later.
You cooked here man. I agree 100%
Every role has characterser that's easy that gets alot of value and I don't like how u put tanks at the bottom there I'm not saying it's the hardest but you can clearly tell what ur doing wrong. u don't need to play dps for that, support too hard disagree it does help to play other roles though if u only play 1 role for the experience
Ok but support does have way more sustain than other roles. Kiriko might be mechanically hard to do dmg with. But you don't have to do dmg. That's the whole issue. You can healbot on supp and just win. How you ask? Because of their broken abilities. Kiriko can healbot because of how good kitsune & tp, cleanse are. Ana can healbot as long as she uses nade, sleep correctly.
You don't need as good positioning, you don't need as good game sense. As long as you use your abilities right, you win. Tank & dps do not have the luxury to play this way
@@vroy9170 this. im not arguing that any role is the hardest either. but i assume climbing on mercy would be the hardest support to climb on. she is so reliant on her team. she can valk at right time and maybe get a few picks on low hp targets, but what else could se do if her teammates overextend, or feed, waste ults, get ulted, etc. i actually would love to see a mercy player climb from low ranks because of this reason. or especially in season 9, i believer her value will go down and the best thing about her may just remain to be her rez ability.
Yeah I mean Mercy is a beam character. Even her ult just enables teammates. She has no skill ability or high risk high reward play making. This is why she's so hard to carry with.
And it's how she should stay imo. It's a character for people who don't have aim
It should be illegal to think anti nade is the least skillful support ability.
Outta the kitchen bro you burning the soup rn
Why does anyone listen to this guy? He was hard stuck Plat/Metal ranks for 30 seasons in OW1. It wasn't until OW2 and the release of Kiri and the other buffs to make support broken where he actually climbed. Their still complete trash on both Tank and DPS its why their so against any support changes because don't belong in it and you can tell by everything spewed from his mouth. He says a lot without actually saying anything or answering any question he proposes. I know Sam pointed it out but Dafran was ahead of curve years ago as I saw it live on his stream when he made the list DPS are the most skilled players bar none in the game and support players being the worst. This guy legit proves it by being Plat for 900 years and all of a sudden climbing to GM.
4:43 *"Cartoon Slip - Sound Effect (HD)"*
Wow this guy is so good
Just curious… what’s your rank on DPS & Tank?
He's often in my games on dps and I'm currently around masters 3. Then again it could very much be someone else
Probably gold/plat 😂
Woah, hey, I'm feeling kinda funny. Must be a second-hand high from all that copium.
smartest overwatch player
Now that's a hot take
I agree. As a support with multiple accounts I went 5-0, 5-2 in gm games then proceeded to go 5-5 or 5-6 in diamond games. However when I play tank, I either win hard or just lose if the other tank is better. Tank is easy to climb when you're better but you can have a smurf gm support and not even know it cause they have little impact at times.
As someone who plays all roles I kinda agree but disagree on the last part but I do understand, like sometimes ppl just don't swap to counter but if I'm tank of dps I can just do it myself so it feels helpless
The role might be hard but one ability can counter whole ults. A good nade can auto win the fight. Unless you're in t500 support is auto win if played properly.
Tank or dps don't have an auto win. They don't have sustain. They don't live after making mistakes. They cannot afk healbot. They can't stay in 1 spot and be untouchable. (Even widow can't do that unless she's hard pocketed)
@@brunoandrea4846 you Don't know what your talking about tanks are more tankier than ever in ow2 and have mitigation abilities as well and even some DPS have some nice sustain abilities, so yes you can live after making mistakes, supps are always the first ones to get flanked so your not just sitting there healbotting
@@vroy9170 Im sorry but this is hard cope
@@brunoandrea4846 explain how? Or that's all you can say
is this satire?
I'm here because your logic is so garbage it can be seen as entertainment
Lol same.
HOLY plat brain
Support is the backbone of every team. If the supports are dead, there is little to no sustain for the team to make plays with. Tanks are also important to the team but they are bound to support for sustain. DPS have the least amount of utility on average compared to the other roles and they mostly do damage, which can be done by the other roles as well.
I found support to be a lot easier in Overwatch 2, especially with the addition of Kiriko. You get so much value for free, but you can make plays for your team as well. For example, Bap ulting and insta ooming a DPS or support, assassinating an Ana in the backline as Kiriko, or Nading a tank at the perfect to time to kill them and snowball the fight. Solo plays can be done also because of the increased self-peeling of supports and the addition of the self-healing passive.
this has to be satire 😭💀
As someone who has never played support but had hit gm1 on both other roles, i went from low gm to rank 400 playing bap, kiri, ana with only 1 season. This role is BUSTED no matter how u wanna disguise it and cope. Having barely any hours on ana and kiri i have a 65% winrate on both. Stop lying to people, this role is easy and if people can't climb its their own fault.
Support is the only role that I could reach masters on compared to diamond on the other roles.
I went 8-5 on support and ranked up 3 divisions
If I did that on tank or dps I would've gone down 2 or 3 divisions bro.
Every hero and every role is both hard and easy to play because each have to worry more or less about something than the others. It’s that simple.
I think Tank is the exception because the other two roles have partners to cover their short comings. Tank has to either be in sync with everyone, or make plays solo.
Moira
True every role has some cheesy stuff ow sucks at balancing and removing a tank didn't naturally make them better at it
@@cameronsmith4932You mean the hero that stops providing value after a person leaves plat and then becomes hard to play because she provides no value in diamond and up? Exactly! Thanks for proving my point.
@@_EXP626_ I was agreeing with you
Dps and tank are impossible to play. Every game is decided by the supports now
Something i find interesting about support is how unaware people are off plays you make. I ranked up an account to top 200 2 seasons ago and spent longer in some ranks then other but the whole way through not a single player commented on how i was playing. I think the award for easiest role is a close call between supp and tank right now.
You really think tank might be the easiest role in the game?Absolutely not.
The tank role relies way too much on the other roles to win the game, for example, if a support on the enemy team picks ana, you are completely reliant on one of your supports to pick kiriko, if an enemy dps picks pharah, you are completely reliant on one of your dps to pick a hitscan hero to deal with her.
The support role relies way less on the other roles to get impact as they can heal, do damage, have movement abilities, have the best passive, have imortality abilities, have get out of jail free cards, and can negate the value of the other roles by pressing a button.
Bro tank has to be the hardest or the second hardest role I don’t know what your yappin about. Support gets the most value without any fundamental game sense or idea and they don’t get punished for their mistakes
Tell me you're in the metal ranks without saying you are. Top 500 rank inflation doesn't mean anything gl in s9 lol
@@crystalization6764 I mean thanks for the good luck. Support is my second lowest ranked role with tank currently being my highest. In the current state of the game without a doubt i have found dps hardest as i am currently only gm2 on it. My experience is my experience.
I started playing ranked with both dmg and tank roles being low silver and my support being gold, now both my tank and dmg rank is diamond and support is still gold.
Healing isn't hard, but healing a team that isn't good/worse than the other team often just delays the inevitable.
i really wanna see him react to all of these comments here, brother you did not think this through with these takes, after the new rank system drops you won’t be a T500 player anymore guaranteed
Bro what are you smoking
I play primarily hanzo, but also some support (zen and kiriko) and I’d say support has been much easier to climb, my hanzo has to be on point to diff the other dps, since most good dps are trading roughly 2 final blows to deaths, however at least at my rank (console low diamond/high plat) most support go heavily negative, some 1/2 or worse. Essentially even with out much heals dps usually do okay, they fight for position try to make plays and usually kill as much as they die, however the supports I’m up against rarely ever make plays, the only time they really fight is when pushed and consequently aren’t that good at it. Basically as kiriko as long as I am fighting other supports they don’t really heal their teammates, and because they aren’t fighting that much it’s fairly easy to diff them, the end result is that while my hanzo would more often than not beat my kiri/zen, my support is usually the more impactful character, since I only lose a little killing power in exchange for healing and an easier head to head. Essentially I’m saying support players, especially the exclusively support players are very passive and easy to dual whereas the average dps is aggressive and proactive. Maybe that changes in higher ranks but I’m not there yet
Say it with me guys, support players are the worst at the game, and lots of them are stupid
-Yours sincerely, a support main
My guy I managed to hit Masters trolling as Lucio, now imagine if I were to play a busted character like Kiriko and take things a tiddy bit more serious. Support is the easiest role by FAR.
Never cook again.
If value floor is the biggest that means that person with equal skill in all roles will get best sr on support, and in my experience most support players have best sr on support role, while tank and dps have almost the same sr on support as their main roles(idk why but i with gm and masters and since such skilled players have really good fundamentals that can skew the results)
Also i agree with u on take that if u a very good player-best role to rank up is dps, until i remeber that raidboss(baptis) is support, kiriko is extremely good, and if u reach a certain skill freshold she becomes terrifying, illiari is a dps with mercy pocket.
And chars that a noobstompers and ez to play -bastion,torb,ana will give u extra sr bc it so easy to play them to beat players until plat i guess, they will by defenition boost a person who doesn deserve a higher rank until he reaches people who can counter-play the bs devs made
4:45 😂
Support easily has the lowest floor and the ceiling is probably just after tank for lowest (now that we are in 5v5 unfortunately). DPS is just forgotten minus the one OP flavor of the season. Right now Sojourn. I play in masters and the number of support players you see with diamond tank but gold/plat DPS is disturbing. So many free win buttons on support, even when poor plays are made by the support player. Regarding 8:15 I fully disagree with that analysis. Since DPS is the least impactful you have to play well above your rank to not get 50/50 overwatch games. If you only play slightly above your rank, supports/tank can int the fight at any point to instantly lose. 90% of your impact fully relies on your team to enable it to happen in the 1st place or else get punished by an enemy support/tank cooldown.
this whole video feels like gaslighting cause almost every point you've made genuinely makes no logical sense or is a "whataboutism" idk how you unironically made this video and thought it was a good rebuttal
fair point about ana nade but at the same time, you wont get far just based in nade if you are bad at the character itself. Plus, nade isn't automatically a free win a majority of the time if not timed properly. You can keep on nading the hog the entire game but if he wasn't low any of those times, he will never die. Also, every character has some kind of "easy" ability, that's not really the problem imho.
agreed. i was thinking of that, and the fact that your tank can just keep feeding ult charge or your dps can keep overextending. the best thing a support player can do there is overextend with them and hope not to get punished for it. because even if your in a good position and your team isnt you have to rotate according to their positioning which can put you in los of widow or dive or other heroes. so basically i believe it comes down to an an individuals understanding of the game (including the hero they are playing and their team and the enemies.) obviously tho some heroes are meta and undoubtedly it would be much easier to win with those heroes.
Wait, so the take is "support is least impactful and thats why its easy to rank up despite making mistakes" or "supports isnt the easiest role to rank up on"? Whats are you eveb trying to say
Funny seeing this after checking the bio..
It is by far the easiest please stop spreading bullshit. I swear only playing support in this game actually rots your brain. This game is currently just a bunch of pawns being controlled by kiriko and ana.
I am one of the people that believes that support is the most impactful role aswell as being the most chill in the game. (I play junkrat in gm1 and recently i played a bit of brig in m1 with barely any experience. I also ended up gm2 with rein, but tank feels so bad to play...), and i'm going to answer to the takes of this video.
So, support is the most impactful : you are the one that is able to enable your whole team to make plays, you can take/secure space (brig whipshot), you can get kills by yourself (ana shot sleep nade combo), you can make tank miserable, and the ults are very powerful. I've played 16 games on support, in almost all my games, i played well and won, and there are 3 i did not do that great on where i lost. I went 11-5. So, even if my team can make me lose or win the game, it's almost always my fault if we lost.
Small note about ana nade : some tanks play around you wasting your nade, so yes, the play is to almost never use nade, forcing the enemy tank to give up space because of the fear of nade. The matchup is about who's going to missplay first, and nade takes some skill in that you need to recognise when nading someone is not worth it.
You mention how metro "proves" that support is easier to rank up when you're bad, compared to ther roles... Sorry but no, because support players have so much to do that they do so many mistakes. That's why it can feel easy, the other supports often do these mistakes. You won't rank up if you only healbot and then blame your dps, because you're doing the mistake of not dealing damage, without realising it. It is a mistake i see many support players do, and the ones that balance healing and dpsing the best are often going to be the one that decides which player wins the game. (i'm excluding mercy and lifeweaver here) However if you do damage, you're now allowed to do other mistakes, which makes the role feel "chill" with how many mistakes you're allowed to do and still win, compared to dps and tank (especially tank), just look at the GetQuakedOn tweet.
Your "boosted" point makes no sense... each role have some sort of impact... it's just that support has the most...
dps is more impactful than support on sniper maps only, where healing does not matter as much and plays are so hard to make.
Also, many mercy players are boosted, yes mercy is an exception, because some mercy only rely on teammates to win, and pocketing the best player just boosts them, because they are not very skilled. I've played with a few skilled mercy players, and oh my the skill difference is HUGE. Mercy pockets are a problem in itself and is an exception to the debate. It does not mean that support is not impactful.
Lastly, i play dive rat. Killing a support is so impactful that it almost guarantees a teamfight win. And their cooldown are so strong that forcing stuff such as ana's both nade and sleep still has a 35% chance fight win (in a 4v5) for my team even if i died in the process.
So, in conclusion to this comment, support is the most impactful role (it has the most impactful heroes) and is the "easiest"/most chill because you're allowed to do so many mistakes. Heal diff is something that wins or loses the game way more often than dps diff or tank diff (when i see that i have excellent supports, i know the game is already won). And finally, sometimes you have a shit dps, well on support you can dps instead. But if on dps you have a shit support, you're out of luck.
Fax
@@brunoandrea4846 I actually just went from masters 2 to gm 1 as support in less than 30 games. This is actually too easy xd
I know you probably aren’t going to read this since the comment section has a good shot of being absolutely rancid, but this was actually a really REALLY good video, especially when it came to pointing out the absolute absurdity of this debate. I’ve always thought this debate was dumb but could never put my finger on why until now, thanks!
it's not rancid he just came out here defending his favorite (and probably only high ranked role) with an obvious bias and some of the worst takes and reasonings imaginable, I didn't think the idea of support being the easiest least punishable role was news to people and thought everyone knew it was the easiest.
The debate is dumb because statistics already proved support is the easiest class. Not math, but statistics. DPS players have a 4x crossover rate in GM compared to support. You know what that means? It means that a GM DPS player is 4 TIMES MORE LIKELY to become GM in other roles than a support. A support GM is 4x LESS LIKELY to have translatable skill capability, and will usually rank several ranks below GM when transitioning to DPS. This isnt math, as I repeat, this is hard fact.
Metro really didnt like this vid lmao
i can already see the video filled with dislikes, you're a brave soldier
I have almost equal playtime on all roles and most heroes in the game. my tank is: m4 dps: is m5 and support is m1. Support is ez just play behind your team that doesn't change regardless of what the game's balance is.
"new comp system"
I'ma stuck in the silver even after the "new system" drops.
And thats okay and you are valid.
What was your rank in overwatch 1?
Bro doesn’t understand any Overwatch fundamentals at all. Neither does he understand the argument. The fact this dude is top 500 is proof that support is the easiest role to rank up lmao 😭
in terms of amount of easy heros dps takes the cake, junkrat hanzo torb bastion etc are very easy to get value on, but in terms of easiest heros in the game support wins easily, mercy moira and lifeweaver almost entirely rely on their team meaning the skill of the player playing them is largely inconsequential.
You say the role doesn't have that much impact but the impact of the role is its uptime and sustain. It's very hard to kill supps but if they do die you basically auto win. If you feel like the better dps&tank win. It's probably because you're healbotting. Completely relying on your team to do well and carry you.
Just enabling your team shouldn't be enough to get high rank but sadly it is. With heroes like kiriko and lifeweaver 100% encouraging and boosting players.
But idrc I haven't played in a month this game is lost rn
Kiriko not really because you gotta land them headshots to bet good value out of her offensively as the rest of her kit has no direct offensive utility (other than her ult but to get that more often, you have to do damage which means landing headshots anyway). Lifeweaver is just bad in OW2 because he was made to cater to OW1 style healbot playstyles.
@@genghiskhan6809 healbotting on kiri farms ult pretty fast tho. Dont get me wrong I agree this is not the right way of playing kiri. But a lot of talentless players play this way. Like the guy in this vid (no h8). N they still get high rank
Support, is infact, the easiest class to play and rank up on....
what season did u hit t500... u sound like ur new to OW and just abused kiriko with a hog / mauga this season. also ur calling mercy players "egirls" L
Your arguments make no sense at all.
Guarantee if this man played ow1 he’d be plat there’s no way he’s in t500 I’m a t500 4600 peak support from ow1 and this is the easiest role 💀
Bro, stop repeating the same sentence over and over again. It's annoying to listen to
He has no argument, so that's all he can do.
wrong.
it's easier to rank up on for both teams. all support players are a rank or two higher than they should be. it's still fair, just the support players in a match are worse than everyone else on average.
You are comparing support to support that’s not what “support is the eziest role to rank on” means support vs tank and dps not support vs support that’s comparing the same role to itself the argument is about how well you need to play to rank up on. support requires the least skill to win in most cases you get t500 on tank you are going again ppl like apply and zebra dps your going against ppl like necros or hydron nobody really cares abt top 500 support players because they r not good enough to truly be worried about besides maybe ml7 and some of the owl ppl
No support is the easiest, as long as you arent braindead and know at the very least how to use your abilities, you can climb lol
Support is by far the easiest role in the game. This take is equally as bad as your take on Kiriko.
Support players try not to be delusional challenge (impossible)
I’ve seen some idiots in the overwatch community but I think you may just take the cake 💀
Hello Itachi!!! I love your OW vids because you have good takes but mostly that you play Pokemon music in the background. 🖤✌🏼
I can't tell if this is a bit 💀
how did u manage to say "dps role is the least impactful so all the dps players are boosted" while its literally the OPPOSITE? if a role is less impactful youre gonna need to put in much more effort to get the wins. because that role is LESS IMPACTFUL. meaning, its impacting LESS even if ur putting the same effort as everybody else. Literally tried to explain while breaking the whole sentence down but idk it will be enough to get through ur thick skull.
Another braindead take from this guy. No way he thinks support is equal to other roles when they heal over time, have insane abilities like immos and tps then they can also out dps half the heros in the game.
I think the idea that "If supports are the most impactful, than all DPS players are boosted" is incorrect, and the question of which role is easiest/hardest is more complicated than just "X role is harder". I think maybe you should make a video where you really dive deep into what "value" is in Overwatch, and how complicated it is to actually define.
Support is both the easiest to create value, and the hardest to maximize value.
(disclaimer: I am in gold. These may be low rank takes.)
Support is a role that has the unique ability to heal their team. Healbotting is a strategy that most would agree is fairly braindead and very easy, but it still can create a lot of value. Prime Lifeweaver was incredibly powerful with his healing output, especially in lower ranks. Almost no other role can create this much value with this little risk, making it the easiest role to get a baseline value.
Will the supports who healbot win most of their games? Probably not. However, in a lot of players heads, if you have high healing as a support, you did good. Some games are genuine "support diffs" because the other supports used their cooldowns better and created more value, but it still seems like a tank and DPS diff because the supports who were diffed had a lot of healing.
Support is also one of the hardest roles because, to truly maximize your value, you need to balance your cooldowns, heal your team, and do meaningful damage all at the same time, all while most likely being the most targeted person by the enemy team. If you do all these things correctly, you will be the most impactful role in the fight.
However, no one is perfect, and since support is so hard to actually maximize in value, your support players will often not be the fight winners. DPS can carry and not be "boosted" by supports by simply outplaying the other team, and capitalizing on mistakes, and that is especially true in lower ranks where lots of mistakes are made. Also, while support is the most impactful, their impact is not so substantially high that their value cannot be surpassed by someone playing well in their respective role. However, theoretically, once you get into higher ranks, supports will stop making quite as many mistakes, and their true impact will start to show. You've made it into high ranks, so you should know way better than me, but I've heard these sentiments echoed by Samito, SVB, Flats, and plenty of other T500 streamers. I'm curious to hear your opinion.
Also, regarding the Metro video where he showed a bunch of clips of him being bad at the end. I saw the whole video when it came out, and I feel that even if his point was to show that you can be bad at support and still reach a high rank (metro is a troll), the video showed plenty of evidence of him being really good, getting many kills and outplaying other supports, and that Kiri is a bit overtuned (PLEASE DON'T KILL ME MR. AMATERASU I KNOW YOU LIKE KIRI), so I personally feel that it shows how forgiving Overwatch as a game is, where your playing well overall and making big plays matter more than your small mistakes.
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I think this is really well explained, easy value = low carry potential, diffuclt value = high carry potential, since it takes less skill difference to be expressed as "value" for high skill ceilings, low skill floor heroes.
so this is why im always complaining about my dps players when im on tank and support
especially on tank, if my dps aren't pressuring the enemy team, but the enemy dps are pressuring my team, i can play as well as i like but without that extra pressure on the enemy team im gonna get rolled
same thing on support, if i switch to brig to shut down an enemy sombra tracer or genji, we often win because those dps arent applying pressure anymore
For me I’m getting weak support combos like zen Ana or Ana Lucio I wish they would switch but they dont
Very brave of you to come out and debate your points in a video, much respect has been gained from me. My tip however would be rather than argue against yourself, bring someone else in to debate against. There is no point saying something, then instantly contradicting it. Good video nonetheless!
I'm sorry but i find this complete bs, immos on supports are the easiest things in the game ever, throwing suzu, using bap immort, using lw pull, you can't counter these. any ability you can't counter shouldn't be in the game, the most gm ranked players are gm on support, followed by tank, followed by dps. having the ability to completely override every cooldown is very over powered. I'm master 3 tank, master 5 dps, gm 3 support. btw brig has a 55% winrate across all ranks, mauga even in his op broken state had a lower winrate at 53% compared to brig. i should not be in gm 3 for support if i'm master on the other 2 roles. brig should not have this much value. and half the supports i can get to gm on way easier than the other 2 roles. this was the most brainrot video i have ever watched. You can not be serious, if you are going to comment back or trash talk me please atleast counter my points and face them first. ESPECIALLY about brig. guys please don't think this guy is serious, this is clearly a troll video.
This nasily voice dude has no idea how the game works
If u play Ana or Kiri then yes ur Support climbing journey is gonna be way easier than the other Supports , Ana nade is a fight winning ability, and Kiriko is broken .
The other supp are not op , Moira imo is the weakest supp and one of the weakest heroes in the game , she needs utility, players been asking for this since OW1 , the tested the necrotic Orb, didn't work , then they forgot about Moira , meanwhile they gave Zen a superman kick which is a dumb and lazy idea , gave Brig a mega barrier in ult with the old stun .
This guy was shown up by such a degree over his baseless and nonsensical take that he had to make this video. No one should listen to him. The fact he claimed soldiers healing pad was insane, and that Metro helixing the ground was stupid, shows that he has no game sense for any other role apart from support. Your takes are rooted in falsehoods and lack the base intellect of a bronze player.
You gotta stay outta the kitchen man....
Just stop. Samito is farming you fr
Great video man! :)
As a t500 player who got you in my games, lost with you and then won against you, you going 5-19 cost us the game because we had ANOTHER kiriko 1 trick, not the enemy tank going 10-19 because i gapped him. Before you make a video on how overtuned support is or not, try not to sound like an absolute idiot, and have atleast some game statistics to back it up and maybe get better at heroes not called kiriko (i bodied you on 4 accounts). If supports really werent that easy you wouldnt be in t500 using an overtuned dlc hero. 100% a 3100sr ow1 player get some real skill lil bro 💀💀🙏🙏
Support IS the easiest hero.
i am from the samito community and he just reacted to this video for fun, if anyone is being a douche send their names to samito for a slap.
yeah there are so many douchebags from Samito's video. I watched before and after Samito's video, and despite there being takes that I don't agree with, Samito's community is being idiots right now.
Support is the easiest role because every support has the luxury of not needing to peek the enemy and still get value, while having very easy to hit heals, plus there is more agency in the support role with their passive, which everyone will have soon thankfully, but thats why its the easiest to rank up on, dps always have to put themselves at risk to get value, supports do not, and tank is easily the hardest of the three, so support is the easiest.
Dum dum
For me tank had been easy to rank up on since theres so few tanks the skill of a gold tank is below the skill of a gold dps/support
ur boosted af
i think you're trolling. your points wouldn't even make sense if the logic was applied to other things outside of overwatch.
Hey man don't get discouraged keep working on your channel and wish you the best i think this takes will be better if you try to argue this with the opposite side so you can judge how good your takes are.
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Yo lets stop the take videos these always miss I dont think youve had a single good take
A channel with back to back trash takes. All set🤢👌🏾
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Bro I gotta disagree! support is the easiest role in game! I went from gold to GM on support just by runing Kiriko and bap they take no skill. Regardless of the players skill set like a tank gap we still won because of these characters being so easy, and broken😂! And then Ana nade being broken! You a funny guy! IT Leaves ana vulnerable! The only reason ana nade is easier to hit is because of the 5v5 format! Because there is no other tank to offset that! Because you and your duo were playing the wrong match up is the reason antinade is not skillful you a clown yo 🤡!
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I fell like I got my third eye opened. The game is just feels ass.