Zero Clearance Insert for Bosch Dual Bevel Glide Miter Saw
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- I finally got a new Miter saw, The Bosch CM10GD 10” Dual-Bevel Glide Saw. It’s a great saw right out of the box, but just to customize it a bit I’m adding a Zero Clearance Insert.
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Have had this for 4 + years. I do high end finish carpentry and with the Freud LU91R012 12-Inch 72 Tooth ATB Thin Kerf Sliding Miter Saw Blade it works great th-cam.com/users/postUgkxPeGkHOMe05FySypTOvYumxMn-xi39oRe . I've had many fellow carpenters make positive comments after borrowing it. Pluses; Sturdy fence, great capacity, low deflection, work lights (Not a gimmick), great dust collection, still as smooth as when i first got it, easy tilt. Minuses ; my digital readout is not accurate(don't use it anyway), heavy.
An OEM insert usually allows for zero clearance; the sloted screw holes in the insert allow you to move the insert inward to where they almost touch, then with a plunge of the blade you have a zero clearance cut. To do a bevel cut, loosen the screw, open the throat, make the bevel cut and then close up the insert again to go back to zero clearance. Thanks for your time
What a simple and effective idea. Loved the use of the tape to speed up the duplication process.
Jon I've had my Bosch CM12SD for about a year. You are very lucky to have your saw arrive square. It took me a great deal of patience trying to get the saw to square. The action of the saw once squared is great. Though I have 2 chief complaints that Bosch needs to work on. 1. Dust collection. When connecting my Dust Deputy to the sawdust port, it only gets about half the amount of sawdust. The catch behind the saw is too small in my opinion to effectively collect sawdust. There is a video out there to make a larger catch. I am going to build an enclosure like what @DIYMontreal did with hers. 2. No laser. I know a Zero Clearance Insert sort of resolves the need for a laser. However; I just feel the 2 combined together would make for more accurate cuts. The pros far outweigh the cons with this saw. Though I do regret getting rid of my Radial Arm Saw. While the Bosch can do this, I found keeping the RAS square a great deal simpler. Plus the vast majority of the cuts I've done so far really only call for a RAS/Chop saw. I built the Miter Saw Station that @FixThisBuildThat made. The modification I made to this is putting the CMS on a cart I can wheel in our out. This allows me to leverage the Miter station for a RAS or even a plainer. Giving me a great deal of surface to work with.
I don't have any background in woodworking and most of my tools are recent purchases as a newish homeowner doing DIY stuff. I was just looking for info on the Bosch miter saw since coming to regret the cheap Ryobi I bought, and I learned so much more by accident from watching your video! LOL! Thanks for this!
Eric R. Shelton Lol. I want to replace my ryobi too. It's not terrible, but it is just a chop saw.
Despicably Irascible Rapscallion every time I swing the Ryobi blade 45 degrees so it's no longer perpendicular to the horizon, there's enough play in it that my cuts are never square. Huge disappointment. Time to invest in something higher quality.
Eric R. Shelton I've heard some complaints about repeatability on the Bosch too, but apparently it's quite easy to tune in.
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I wish there was a website that did independent reviews of these tools. I love youtube, but it's hard to tell how unbiased some of these guys are.
This is the 3rd person I have seen on you tube that have got the same saw and been very happy with it except for the inset plate, Izzy sorted his with some tape that gives a zero gap but I like your method better. I hope you get lots of use and accurate cuts.
I used the tape as well on my miter and take saw. Just quick and easy.
John Fithian-Franks Hi
I’ve recently purchased a new Dewalt Flexvolt sliding mitre saw. Making test cuts, there appears to be no issue with tear out at all. I’ve tested the saw using pine, man made boards and oak. Can I suggest that tear out could be the result of a blunt blade and/or rushing the cut. I can appreciate that using a hardwood insert can really “sex up” the look of the saw but I don’t see any real practical advantage to making one. Of course, the disadvantage arises when you need to tilt the saw for angled cuts. You’d need to remove it every time to avoid damaging the insert. I did make up an auxiliary jig from MDF that can be attached to the fence. Hence, small off cuts can’t snag the blade or be thrown around the workshop. However, I fully accept it’s a case of each to his own.
Finally you got the saw. its a nice one. Cuts are straight for the most part and it looks like you don't have to buff a lot.
Jon,
Really like your videos and the no-nonsense approach to wood working. Keep up the good work. All the best from UK
I have the 12" version of your saw and I am going to make a insert like yours! Thank you so much for showing us how to do it!
The dream miter saw. Awesome !!
Great idea for the zero clearance insert. John Heisz has a solution to the sacrificial fence problem.
Good workmanship Jon, your projects & recommendations are very valuable
My mitre saw has a stop I can adjust that lets me adjust the depth the blade will drop. Used it a few days ago to cut cross halving joints in some 2x4
Thanks Jon. This inspires me to make a zero clearance insert for my DeWalt. Congratulations on 200k subscribers.
Simple, practical, do-able. Thanks...and the sacrificial fence - now I understand it’s value.
Jon sir from many vidio demosration u have given perfect idia for precise cuting i rajesh windo maker from mumbai
Nice to see your subscriber numbers climb. I used to wonder why it was so low, great content, thanks.
Jon you are going to like the Bosch.
Jon, great timing. I'm in the process of making my miter station using this saw. I'll make a pattern for this so I can make multiple inserts for easy replacement. .....Scott
You getting one of those too. Dang !! I have a station all designed out in sketchup from months ago. Just havent gotten the materials yet. Looking forward to your build. If you do video of it.
+David Bishop video may be latter but I am posting pictures on my FB page The 2 Car Garage Shop
Looks great Jon. Glad you like the saw. I made a similar insert to my saw only out of mdf. But I like the instruction you gave in making it out of ply.
God job Jon. Hey Jon I think you need to join those four guys from This old house, I think you and Tom Silva will make grate projects together like having the dream team....lol...keep up the good work...all the way from Dallas TX...
Nice saw. Congrats on hitting 200k! Well deserved Jon.
I'm really liking that new saw man it's real great and it's definitely a lot better than my old Dewalt saw where it's just not in such good condition! I've be looking for a new one for about 2 months now and so far i haven't seen something like that so if you would, please tell where you got it and I'll see if i can go out and find it for myself! I also liked ur video in general it was very helpful for my son because he is just getting into all this stuff and he said he would like it if you would give him a full demonstration on how to find the right tools and know how to take measurements! I'm completely ok with it. I hope you see this and have a great day thank you for much for all your help and demonstrations!
200,000 subscribers!!!! nice job! great video, I now use a sacrificial fence well all the time now too thanks to you
Really nice method you used to make that insert, Jon. I've had that on my list for my Dewalt for some time and I think I'll make one now.
I like the tape trick to make your insert template.
Great saw John wish I could afford one
A great idea, and so much more easy to cut straight. Thanks
I just watched this video (thumbs up), noticed the date, and am still wondering how come i just saw this saw a few months ago :-D the saw looks awesome from more than one side, the cuts out of the box seem to be top notch. fingers crossed!
Keep it up!
Heya Jon, I just gave this a try. It's working great, love it! Thanks for all your videos!
That was well timed I was playing with one of those at the tool shop yesterday. Might just push me over the edge to upgrade.
Me too but the relative cost in the UK is way higher than the US.
I know what you mean they are close to $1000 here, which at the current exchange rate is about 50 pounds :)
LOL. Hope all's well with you. Looking forward to seeing more videos from you. Cheers, Gary
Thanks Gary hope to be back in front of the camera this weekend.
Thanks! Made one for my old delta, nice clean cuts now!
Great idea Jon. I need to try that.
haha it didnt even dawn on me to use tape. i was making an insert yesterday out of some old oak i had. ran it through the drum sander and had everything perfect till i grabbed the wrong bit and punched a hole way to large throughthe insert. thank you so much for restarting my brain on this
congrats on 200k Jon!
Congrats on 200k and the saw!!
I would switch the zeroC out with the stock insert to do bevel cuts... that way you won't need to make new ones.
I drilled two countersinks for the nipples. Found that it helped in stability.
I have the Bosch 4410L sliding mitre/bevel saw and find when cutting off small ends these saws fire the cut off ends like bullets. Once a piece embedded itself into the drywall. To much space with the original fence that allows these small pieces to get caught by the blade effecting them out the back.
Thanks for the video on the Zero insert I am going to make a few.
Nice video and instructional Jon.
I have this same saw and i love it.
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Nice saw! Do you have a video on how to adjust the saw if it is not cutting square? Thanks!
looks like a nice saw
Have you seen Fast Cap's pvc zero clearance tape that you put over the slot? It's just $4 or $5 for five strips.
great video, Jon, as always. I noticed that you sometimes cut on the pull stroke. Do you need a special blade for that?
Just an idea.
Why not make a left and a right hand fence for your mitre cuts, using the the one required.
That way you wouldn’t have to make a new one every few weeks.
Nice work on the insert. Why not make it easy to repair instead of making a new one. Cut a dado down the center of your insert 3/4" wide by 1/8" deep. Rip a bunch of 1/8" masonite to fit. Stick a piece in the dado with double sided tape or a few dabs of hot glue. When it gets chewed up, slap a new piece in.
nice saw, Jon! very envious!
Hi Jon. If you do a follow -up Q&A type video to this, I wondered if you could briefly discuss your chop saw stroke technique?
Ive watched you many times score the material pulling the blade towards you and then plunging the blade and pushing away from you back through the material.
I have tried your method and never seem to get perfect results on deeper/longer cuts especially.
My Metabo saw is the only one i have ever owned and it has the slightest bit of play on the blade/motor head (though I have heard this is standard on most...if not all sliding mitre saws). So through adjustments and trial & error in cutting technique I can now achieve perfectly square cuts.....But this was something that took me some time to achieve. I just wondered if other people might be interested in this issue and you could share your thoughts? Thanks Jon.
I believe he does this for reducing tear out. It is the same stroke that I use. You have to imagine the angle at which the teeth are exiting the wood. The higher the angle of exit the more tear out.
Smart work
Nice video Jon, and I notice you have crossed the 200K mark in subscribers. Congratulations, and how did you convince Mama to let you buy a new saw w/o the other being dead? lol haha
God Bless my friend
Great video. What do you think about using a sacrificial board instead of the custom insert? I use a lot of bevels (and wouldn't want to replace the insert frequently) and wouldn't need the benefits of the custom insert for many cuts.
Pretty sweet.
Very well done! I have the 12" Dual-Bevel Glide Saw. I can't resist asking .. how much to have you make ship some inserts to Canada?
Hey Jon, great job. I liked your idea. I think I will make one Zero Clearance for my Dewalt MiterSaw. I need to make one Zero Clearance for my TableSaw too.
Congrats.
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Hi Jon. I heard that many people complain about inefficiency of the dust collection on this beauty. What is your view about that? Thanks for the upload.
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Felicidades, una sierra muy bonita
good job ,just need paint red the little table
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200 k great job man
Being in such a tight shop, have you though of making the extension table for the Bosch into a fold down leaf?
GREAT video, I am going to do this! Who even needs a laser anyhow?
Jon,👍!
3:03, ha, cool trick!
What was the point ? When you cut the 45s it will open up the same ?
Jon how are you enjoying the Bosch sliding miter saw? Holding up well and staying accurate?
Wanted one of these until I realized you have to swap them out to cut a bevel and I use my saw to cut bevels all the time so it would be a pain the arse lol
What blades are you using on your saws? and how often would you change them?
I want all those clamps.
Nice one! Thanks!
How deep is your work bench that the saw is on? I have a two foot work bench and wondering how well the saw will fit on it, or how far it would stick out in the front?
Does it take dado stack? Wouldn't that be cool?
Muy buena idea felicitaciones
I'm mystified. Maybe Bosch don't send the same spec saws to the US as to create zero clear insert all you do is undo the fixings and slide the two red pieces inwards??? Well that's all I did on mine. The idea being if you need to make a bevel cut you reverse the process and away you go.
Make sure you start the cut with the arm all the way extended and push it away from you as you finish the cut for safety reasons.
maxm7202 Negative, it would chew up the plywood just enough to piss you off. By pulling back slowly and carefully(just the one time for this project) the blade cuts down, leaving crisp edges. Be careful
How do safety nazis like you live? how do you cross the street without being hit by a bus? Please make a video so I can leave a comment about you not looking carefully in 6 directions.
It's a great tool … but $500 more expensive than the professional miter saw that I bought for a price.
Otherwise I would have bought this one : the zero clearance ability is certainly an excellent point.
Great vid and info...can u provide info on ur choice of machine square?
Yes John, I was going to ask the same thing.
Hi, I'm looking at getting this over the Festool and I was wondering what its like at cutting accurate bevels for box making?
Does it have a good positive stop at the 45 degree angle? Great vid by the way. Thanks for posting.
i know i am not the owner of the video but i bought this saw second hand from a guy who was downsizing his shop. the guy i got it from sold his festool to buy this bosch in 10 inch. he said the festool was great but he would buy this saw over and over again for how accurate the positive stops were. when i tested out all the stops to my digital angle finder everything was spot on. im sure the guy i bought it from dialed in everything before hand. i have had 0 issues myself with any of the angles and them not being spot on for the positive stops. i have used a festool before and i even have to say i probably wouldnt go away from using this over a festool. saved me a bunch of money to help my adventure of getting a new table saw
Hi my John brother good trick 💖💖💖👌👌🇮🇳🇮🇳
nice tool
merci beaucoup pour votre vidéo qui va beaucoup m'aider, je m'abonne, merci!!
Looks like a great saw! Sadly a little bit too pricy for my wallet :'(
Meu sonho
Hey Jon is this the 10" or the 12"?
Very Nice
Thanks
you never saw this commin, pun intended!
congrats on 200k subs tho :)
Hi Jon. Just a question for you. How do you like the saw? I have read so many reviews that says this saw does not track - cut true especially on wider boards. I really wanted to get this saw but I don't know what to think now. Any input would be appreciated and respected coming from you. Thanks for all you do!
I have the same saw in my cabinet shop. I returned the first one because the mitre table from factory was lower on one side, skewing both mitre and bevel cuts. Bosch sent me a perfect replacement saw and I've never had an issue. It has stayed calibrated for 5yrs now. Happy woodworking! 👍🏻🔨📐🗜
Thanks for the input. I appreciate it!
@@dannersmyers how about now three years later? I am wanting to buy this saw and your 8 year review will be very helpful. John has since posted he had trouble keeping his Bosch square and went with a kapex. I am not shelling out $1500 for a saw. I am a hobbyist and am sure you put this saw through more in one month than I will in my lifetime.
Thanks for the info - this is the saw I intend to buy.
Muy buen video. Very Good Video.
Great video. Have the same saw, what did you do on the dust collection...One of the poorest designs that is on a expensive saw
Thanks Dave... nothing yet and I’m actually thinking about getting the Kepex... I have a hard time keeping this saw square.
What was your old saw?
Hey :), wouldn't it have been a lot easier to go with the metric units instead of freedom length? I'm kinda sure Bosch used mm's when they build it in probably Homburg Germany..
Is there a reason you didn't just slap the tape straight down onto the plywood that you were going to use for the new insert, and then just cut around it? Could have saved having to measure things up
Aaaand I just got to the part of the video where you did actually put the tape on the plywood
I need this how many cost
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