About the padding not that "pillow-ee", I must say that Winning changed their padding compare to what it was. I had 2 surgeries on my wrist 7 years ago and after that I had a pair of winning to continue boxing (only gloves that I can safely wear, no pain at all), 16oz laces. The padding was great, very soft, but also very protective, absorb the shock but you never felt the knuckles making contacts. For 6 years never had a pain in my hand, using the pair for sparring and bag. At that time you could clearly see the difference in padding between 14oz and lower, and 16oz and higher. 14 and lower were compact and dense, 16oz and higher, were "pillow-ee" and protective. Last year, my Winning were sadly done and I ordered a new pair, exactly the same, MS-600. But the padding was not the same (Winning I don't know when upgrade their products, changed a few things and the tag) and after 3months of usage, my wrist started to be painful because the shock absorption is not as good, even my other hand also started to be painful. The 16oz have now the same type of padding that the 14oz have, and there is no difference between the two. My sparring partner noticed the difference too, as their noses bleed way more and complain to me that my gloves feel like 12oz. Which made me laugh because most of them spars with Reyes 12 or 14oz, so they finally understood how it feel. The quality is still great, I'm not looking to say bad thing about Winning product, still the best quality gloves that you can find with a very special feeling, I have the winning headgear and it's amazing. But the famously "pillow-ee" padding is gone. If your hands are strong, I don't think you'll have any problem. But if you're like me and you hurt your hands a lot and with time they started to be fragile, Winning is maybe not the best brand anymore.
I had winning and I sold them. Yes they were perfect and the best gloves i ever owned. But it was too much for me. I am happy with my cleto reyes already.
I heard the punch surface for the glove so basically the entire back side of it is synthetic leather and the palm thumb and wrist is real leather but idk
@@richardyocum-qi7db is anything wrong with that? They don't feel any particular way really, since they're all way better than me, i haven't been in a fight yet, and most of them have
If your sparring partners are okay with it then do what you wanna do. In my experience not many want to get hit with a punchers glove like Reyes in sparring. @@danielakbari3447
@@danielakbari3447cleto Reyes are latex boxing gloves. They’re padding is usually very hard and firm so that’s why a lot of people don’t like sparring partners wearing them. Over time they also get extremely extreeemely soft to the point your knuckles go straight through. Cleto Reyes are not bad gloves though, they’re just controversial as a sparring glove because of their varying density depending on the use
Hey. Awesome video!! Do these gloves really observe/numb out the impact/punch on the heavy bag? Or can you feel great feedback when you hit hard enough on the bag? Please let me know thanks
Winning store usa online, the official retailer of the winning company, The 16oz lace up have a back order of 4 months but the the 18oz lace up in black only have a wait time of 1 month or less,(usually less!) so I’ll just order them from there and wait less then a month for them to arrive, I’ll post the link below
They're okay, not very consistent. Some are soft some are firm, some are super firm as if your punching a concrete wall. And the stitching rips after a while
Hi my friend, I want to know, if it’s possible, the difference between the 14s and the 16s oz winning gloves in the wrist area (specifically its circumference). Because I’m thinking about buying some, and I’m a boy with a fairly small wrist, and I wouldn’t want to stick with 16 oz ones and have the wrist area, with the laces completely tightened, be loose. My wrist measures 16 cm in circumference, I’m 1.72 m and 68 kilos, in case it helps!! Thank you so much!! Love your content
16 oz will be fine, I’m a short dude smaller than u in weight too, i use rdx lace to velcro converter and they work great, gloves stay tight around the wrist
Nice Vid bro🙏🏻💪🏻 if you compare the Fly Superlace X 18oz and the Winning MS600 in their size, would you say there is a big difference? I have MS400 for Bagwork and love them. Thinking about getting either Fly Superlace 18oz or MS600 as a new sparring glove and don’t know what will be better… I am 202 6’1 and heavy hitter, what do you think?
Honestly I felt like the gloves are a little overrated. I bought a pair of customs for like 700 but I definitely have pairs of gloves I prefer better that cost like 200 lol
Decent review but one piece of advice, learn to keep your mouth closed and breathe through your nose. An open mouth will get your jaw broken quick. Train with a mouth piece to learn to breathe through your nose.
About the padding not that "pillow-ee", I must say that Winning changed their padding compare to what it was. I had 2 surgeries on my wrist 7 years ago and after that I had a pair of winning to continue boxing (only gloves that I can safely wear, no pain at all), 16oz laces. The padding was great, very soft, but also very protective, absorb the shock but you never felt the knuckles making contacts. For 6 years never had a pain in my hand, using the pair for sparring and bag. At that time you could clearly see the difference in padding between 14oz and lower, and 16oz and higher. 14 and lower were compact and dense, 16oz and higher, were "pillow-ee" and protective.
Last year, my Winning were sadly done and I ordered a new pair, exactly the same, MS-600. But the padding was not the same (Winning I don't know when upgrade their products, changed a few things and the tag) and after 3months of usage, my wrist started to be painful because the shock absorption is not as good, even my other hand also started to be painful. The 16oz have now the same type of padding that the 14oz have, and there is no difference between the two. My sparring partner noticed the difference too, as their noses bleed way more and complain to me that my gloves feel like 12oz. Which made me laugh because most of them spars with Reyes 12 or 14oz, so they finally understood how it feel.
The quality is still great, I'm not looking to say bad thing about Winning product, still the best quality gloves that you can find with a very special feeling, I have the winning headgear and it's amazing. But the famously "pillow-ee" padding is gone. If your hands are strong, I don't think you'll have any problem. But if you're like me and you hurt your hands a lot and with time they started to be fragile, Winning is maybe not the best brand anymore.
Interesting to know. I just got a pair of 16s and they feel great but I did notice they appear smaller and more compact than I expected
@@joshuarivas442the 16 oz are smaller than which other 16 oz you’ve bad?
I had winning and I sold them. Yes they were perfect and the best gloves i ever owned. But it was too much for me.
I am happy with my cleto reyes already.
Yeah, Winnings aren’t cheap. Cletos are great, has a cool rawness to it
"Great gloves".... "barely use them"... gotcha. :P
😂
So now that you've used Winnings how do they compare to the Ring to Cage C-17's?
Very similarly in fit and padding. Winning uses higher quality materials though
First! I have a custom black/gold pair that I use for sparring. Definitely my go-to for sparring
Oh nice! Those are sweet!
Been waiting for this review, about time haha
I heard the punch surface for the glove so basically the entire back side of it is synthetic leather and the palm thumb and wrist is real leather but idk
I heard that before, and if that is the case, I definitely see that that in how the leather surface looks throughout the gloves
it seems like Winning's leather are the same to Fly superlace X leather (which it synthetic) imo
They do seem very similar
I tape the tips after washing them to have an easier time lacing them
even applying leather conditioner will make them last longer.
So that does work, is it easy to get the lace through the lace holes?
Do you use the winning cleaning kit?
@@ThatBoxingGuyno, I use armor all leather conditioner. Protects them but feels slippery on some bags. It’s like they become smooth like butter
Cool! Maybe i'll get these in 5 years when im actually a pro, i just got my first pair of sparring gloves, cleto reyes 16 oz training gloves :D
Sparring in Cleto Reyes huh? How do your sparring partners feel about this?
@@richardyocum-qi7db is anything wrong with that? They don't feel any particular way really, since they're all way better than me, i haven't been in a fight yet, and most of them have
If your sparring partners are okay with it then do what you wanna do. In my experience not many want to get hit with a punchers glove like Reyes in sparring. @@danielakbari3447
@@danielakbari3447cleto Reyes are latex boxing gloves. They’re padding is usually very hard and firm so that’s why a lot of people don’t like sparring partners wearing them. Over time they also get extremely extreeemely soft to the point your knuckles go straight through. Cleto Reyes are not bad gloves though, they’re just controversial as a sparring glove because of their varying density depending on the use
They have insanely dense foam padding on the front so they hit like a brick when you hit someone. Some gyms ban Cletos from being used for sparring.
Hi,
I want to buy a pair of fly superlace lightning. I weigh 176.4 lbs (80kg) should i go with 14 or 16oz for training and sparring?
16 oz should be good for you 👍🏼
Hey. Awesome video!! Do these gloves really observe/numb out the impact/punch on the heavy bag? Or can you feel great feedback when you hit hard enough on the bag? Please let me know thanks
Bro if you ever wanna sell them let me know. I'm just north of ya so I can make a drive to pick em up!
I’ll keep that in mind👍🏼
The king has returned
Haha thanks Bro. I pop my head out once in a while 😆
I own some Fly X 18s for sparring and I know you do as well. Is the price of Winning worth the experience?
How would you compare these to the ring to cage clones ?
I do see the similarities, but the main differences are the wrist, inner lining and quality. I’ll probably make a video comparing the two 👍🏼
@@ThatBoxingGuyplease do
@@ThatBoxingGuyyes pls
Have you try to wear twins lace up 16oz? Can you review twins 16oz lace up vs ms600 winning
Are these as protective as people say they are? If I use them for heavy bag work only will they last a good while?
Definitely very protective. I believe they should last long on the bag, I guess I’ll find out eventually
Awsome! I’m planning on getting an 18oz lace up in black for bag work, Thanks!
@jesusfonseca654 18 oz are hard to find, where do you plan on getting them?
Winning store usa online, the official retailer of the winning company, The 16oz lace up have a back order of 4 months but the the 18oz lace up in black only have a wait time of 1 month or less,(usually less!) so I’ll just order them from there and wait less then a month for them to arrive, I’ll post the link below
Do you find that the ringside bags are good, and would you recommend them.
They're okay, not very consistent. Some are soft some are firm, some are super firm as if your punching a concrete wall. And the stitching rips after a while
Thank you so much for the video! Based on your experience, what gloves you would consider more comfortable than winning? I have hand injury
Fly Premium Lightning and Hit n Move Balance are more comfortable in my opinion, but equally as protective
Hi my friend, I want to know, if it’s possible, the difference between the 14s and the 16s oz winning gloves in the wrist area (specifically its circumference). Because I’m thinking about buying some, and I’m a boy with a fairly small wrist, and I wouldn’t want to stick with 16 oz ones and have the wrist area, with the laces completely tightened, be loose.
My wrist measures 16 cm in circumference, I’m 1.72 m and 68 kilos, in case it helps!!
Thank you so much!! Love your content
I’ve never seen the 14 oz so I don’t really know the difference in sizes. Sorry
16 oz will be fine, I’m a short dude smaller than u in weight too, i use rdx lace to velcro converter and they work great, gloves stay tight around the wrist
Nice Vid bro🙏🏻💪🏻 if you compare the Fly Superlace X 18oz and the Winning MS600 in their size, would you say there is a big difference? I have MS400 for Bagwork and love them. Thinking about getting either Fly Superlace 18oz or MS600 as a new sparring glove and don’t know what will be better… I am 202 6’1 and heavy hitter, what do you think?
Honestly I felt like the gloves are a little overrated. I bought a pair of customs for like 700 but I definitely have pairs of gloves I prefer better that cost like 200 lol
I know what you mean. I feel they’re really highly rated based on their durability and protection despite being soft gloves
Just seen your channel great content, how would you put winnings to the flys
It’s a tough call. I really like both (I currently have the Fly Lightning). But compared to the Superlace X, I like the winnings a bit more
Did you get these from the winning website?
Bobs Fight Shop, if you sign up for email subscription you’ll get notified when in stock before they announce they’re stocked on social media
@@ThatBoxingGuy awesome thank you!
16 oz in sparring with your weight? Wtf
It’s Winnings, they’ll be fine 😅
Decent review but one piece of advice, learn to keep your mouth closed and breathe through your nose. An open mouth will get your jaw broken quick. Train with a mouth piece to learn to breathe through your nose.