The Churchill Globe is simply outstanding! If I had some more pocket change and a Living room that’s a little bigger it would be the first thing I’d buy... LOL. I admire your patience and commitment to your art-form. You are some of the most hardworking individuals I have ever seen and I sincerely applaud your craftsmanship. I hope you have the best future Bellerby and Company Globemakers!
I have a tailor-made Bellerby globe and it is a daily source of pleasure. I visited the workshop and was fortunate enough to meet Peter Bellerby in person. His team are also marvellous.
Hi John, thank you so much for taking the time to write on here. We were so glad you were able to visit the studio and happy your globe is still a daily source of pleasure. I will pass on the kind words to the makers and painters who worked on your globe! PS more cat photos always welcome ;) Best, Jade and Peter and team Globemakers
So beautiful, I love globes, and it's understandable what they go for in this guy's business given the time, artistry and dedication they put into each one.
Who doesn't love a beautifully made useful object. And these gorgeous globes epitomise that very thing. Bravo to you Mr Bellerby, for breathing life into an almost lost art. PS: Love the Bentley.
I am looking to buy a nice globe for my daughter, and ended up here. While a Churchill is out of my budget this year 😉, I can’t wait to show her this video so that she may see how much of an art they can be. She is on the autism spectrum and globe making is something I could imagine her enjoying. Please expect her CV in the next 5-10 years!! Bravo!!
Hi Ingrid, glad you found us and craft / the arts may really be something she would enjoy as a career! Desktop globes are a different ball park budget wise & the Albion very tactile with a great spin : bellerbyandco.com/product-category/base-model/desktop-globes/ or hope you find the perfect globe for your family whatever kind it may be! 🌍💕
They are using plastic gores on those, still great but different quality and mass produced identical. Ours are made by wetting and stretching paper gores and hand painted with watercolours.
Um no... No plastic in that video. The way they make is the same since 1492 as explained in the video. Thin layers of of paper over wooden spheres to create shells. 9 layers of plaster. Then a paper map glued on to the plaster. Followed by a spray of varnish. They just make it look easy because almost every employee has about 30 years of experience.
I saw it on BFI player at some point ages ago. I'm really hoping the huge Map exihibition that happened at The British Museum is repeated it was amazing.
Seriously, if I spend $80,000 on something, it must have either a rather powerful engine and four tires, or a roof and a basement. But if I had some extra piles of money sitting around, one of these beauties would look pretty sharp in my living room!
It must be quite a thing to figure out how those pieces fit together so everything lines up. Imagine if you put all the pieces on and there was a gap at the end?
Yes you have to re-make the globe again. With anything handmade there will always be human error which is the beauty of it. You just have to forgive yourself, learn from it and start again.
Good story! Building globes British Path does a fine story as well,...without all the American journalist crap....British,you don’t see the commentator....American,The commentator is always on camera.....as a matter of fact,it’s always over the top story telling,....just the facts ma’am!
The British Pathé film is from 1955... this broadcast is from 2017. British Television today is much different and more of your ‘American’ style. American Television from 1955 was very much like, if not the same, as British Pathé. Although Sunday Morning and British Pathé are in a similar medium, you are making an unfair comparison between Television from 1955 and 2017. Thanks, Harrell Bloc
Gen 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. Gen 1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. Gen 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
Yes the British Pathe video, they were not hand painted globes or traditionally handcrafted like ours - but still amazingly made and an important part of globe-making history!
@@tewstronge9173 Oh, but there are geological locations on mars that scientist have mapped out so you very well could make a globe of mars with those locations on it.
India wants Kashmir, Pakistan wants it, Kashmir itself wants to be independent. For years there have been terrorist attacks etc. That's the reason why he said that.
Because he can get in trouble by both India and Pakistan, if they mark the entire Kashmir region as being of part of one country, instead of leaving it disputed.
Nowadays 2 sheets of flat plastic are imprinted with a distorted image of a hemisphere. (For the northern and southern hemispheres.) Both of the flat plastic sheets are then separately moulded into a hemisphere (removing the distortion) in a heated mould... Both hemispheres are then trimmed and joined together to form the finished globe. Voila! A perfectly smooth globe with FAR superior imagery than found on any old fashioned handmade globe. 21st Century technology trumps 17th Century technology.
He stopped all food supplies to Bangal & was a major reason why 10 million people starved to death in Bengal famine. "It's (Indians) their own fault...for breeding like rabbits" :- Winston Churchill ( His views on Indians )
Well he lots of horrible views, that is why he lost the general election right after ww2. He did make it back in to power, but it was short lived. Time makes a hero, or villain out of people.
Exactly, we are making them in the same way they have been made for hundreds of years, that's the magic of it! Currently modern ones are otherwise made by machines for the most part.
@@Globemakers Just read about you this last Saturday (11/02/2019) in a magazine for kids. I would order a large globe with no other writings on it. But a year later I still lack the money... 😭😭😭😭😭
3:22 I thought she was gonna say 300,000 dollars and that is justified. How does he run a business like this ... 600 orders a year and one is 1300 how does he keep a business?
Very kind of you to say, we have not quite reached a $300,000 globe! We have many sizes and styles so pricing starts over $1,000 and goes up from there for the bigger sizes and more detailed globes.
I guess you did not google it then .. they proposed a 7 year jail sentence to start (see articles going back to 2016) ... and the 6 month one is still being stated as of 2024 .... google .. then comment?
Why would you not want it to be done by hand? We are keeping a tradition that goes back to the 1400's alive, employing people who enjoy working with their hands and creating, and our customers come to us as they don't want mass produced items. We create high quality globes and each is one of a kind. Like the difference between a hand painted work of art on your wall (a real painting) or a print out from your computer of a painting that anyone can print and have the same of. The quality and meaning would be totally different.
We make 3d globes which are accurate representations of our planet and not distorted. This is different than making flat maps. Flat maps are projections and you will often see differences in how the world is shown based on which projection is being used and who is making the map. There are a lot of interesting videos and articles written about this if you want to know more.
As amazing as this guy's work is, it in no way compares to the artistry of globe making from several hundred years ago. Why? Because he relies on computers
Intéressant! Mais pourquoi personne ne lui demande s'il connait d'autres cartes de la Terre? Des cartes interdites au public! Par exemple la réalisation d'une terre à partir des cartes comme celle de Piri Reis, ou bien d'autres encore soient disant fausses? Je suis sur que le résultat final serait très intéressant! Stéph. Interesting! But why doesn't anyone ask him if he knows any other maps of the Earth? Maps that are forbidden to the public! For example the realization of an earth from maps like the one of Piri Reis, or other so-called fake ones? I am sure that the final result would be very interesting! Stéph.
Bonjour Stéph, nous réalisons des cartes du monde modernes et à jour. C'est notre objectif. Cependant, nous prenons également des commandes de toutes sortes afin de créer des cartes fantastiques ou des recréations de différentes époques sur demande. Nous fabriquons également la Lune, Mars, les globes célestes et bien d'autres choses intéressantes.
@@Globemakers Alors là Chapeau bas! Mais il faudrait aussi les montrer dans vos vidéos! Stéph. So hats off to you! But you should also show them in your videos! Stéph.
People buy things because they like them, they perhaps don't want something mass produced and they want something high quality, handmade and personalised. Maybe they find one thing more beautiful than the other.. the style, colours, materials, design elements. You can say 'why bother buying one of these' about most things in the world .. but if everyones houses were filled with the exact same things and everyone had the same taste the world would be a very boring place.
Most people won't, because it's very expensive and not really compatible for an average consumer. If money is no object, then there would be no point in settling for anything less than premium. That's why these things are perfect for the rich elite, but the rest of us shouldn't feel bad, because it's just an expensive gimmick. I know several companies that make excellent globes for a much more affordable price, even if they're not 100% hand made.
When comparing products you have to look at the quality of materials and craftsmanship as well as the ethics of the company and how they treat their artists and makers.
I was scrolling down to see any indian ranting... You, the very first one and exactly on job. 😂 Living in denial isn't good for your mental health. Acknowledge the truth! And kill all of us at once.
When i say 'you' I meant to India, not you in person. You might be a fellow good human, I hope. Don't take the geopolitical issues so personal. A common men expect those who are under oppression, has nothing to do with these kind of disputes🙏
@@ajaz8765 Kashmir hum chahte nahi hai vo hamara hi hai. Bhakti hum karte hai tab hi to Pakistan ki phati padi hai. Aur jaha tak World ki baat hai duniya bhi maanti hai k kashmir Bharat ka part hai. Tuhe bhi agar kashmir chahiye to aajao border pr aur le lo. 🙏 Jay Shree Ram 🚩 Jay Hind 🇮🇳
Why don't you outsource to India or China, so we, the world's nothing more than the "standard and poor", can buy a Itsy bitsy teenie globe for, let's say, less than £300 :-) Anyway, what you do is wonderful.
Awww well we live in London and want to see every globe that is made to ensure the quality and craftsmanship of each, we are training the artists etc ... it can take years to train a Globemaker so we'd need to be there by their side every day. We like that we handcraft all right in our studio in London and pay proper wages etc ☺
Gabe Hey yes that is a theory I believe in. There are multiple suns that come out of the mddle at diffrent heights. That is how seasons work. Also the change positions. A doughnut shaped earth would be hard to explain without a image.
The Churchill Globe is simply outstanding! If I had some more pocket change and a Living room that’s a little bigger it would be the first thing I’d buy... LOL. I admire your patience and commitment to your art-form. You are some of the most hardworking individuals I have ever seen and I sincerely applaud your craftsmanship. I hope you have the best future Bellerby and Company Globemakers!
Thank you so much, very kind of you to say!
I have a tailor-made Bellerby globe and it is a daily source of pleasure. I visited the workshop and was fortunate enough to meet Peter Bellerby in person. His team are also marvellous.
Hi John, thank you so much for taking the time to write on here. We were so glad you were able to visit the studio and happy your globe is still a daily source of pleasure. I will pass on the kind words to the makers and painters who worked on your globe! PS more cat photos always welcome ;) Best, Jade and Peter and team Globemakers
Jeisus Chroist. I wanted to make one myself and ended up here, those are absolutely beautiful and what i was looking for.
So beautiful, I love globes, and it's understandable what they go for in this guy's business given the time, artistry and dedication they put into each one.
Very kind of you to say, thank you!
Who doesn't love a beautifully made useful object. And these gorgeous globes epitomise that very thing. Bravo to you Mr Bellerby, for breathing life into an almost lost art. PS: Love the Bentley.
Thank you Sue!
@Bellerby GLobemakers Do you also make old world map globes? This one could be yours >>> th-cam.com/video/zQD76tLKgaQ/w-d-xo.html Only joking.
2:54..... "how do u get the wrinkles out?"
"You don't make them in the first place"
*girl at back smiles*
I am looking to buy a nice globe for my daughter, and ended up here. While a Churchill is out of my budget this year 😉, I can’t wait to show her this video so that she may see how much of an art they can be. She is on the autism spectrum and globe making is something I could imagine her enjoying. Please expect her CV in the next 5-10 years!! Bravo!!
Hi Ingrid, glad you found us and craft / the arts may really be something she would enjoy as a career! Desktop globes are a different ball park budget wise & the Albion very tactile with a great spin : bellerbyandco.com/product-category/base-model/desktop-globes/ or hope you find the perfect globe for your family whatever kind it may be! 🌍💕
“You don’t make them in the first place” this man is a fucking WORKER and deserves everything he has and more. Absolute Legend
So kind thank you!
That Is Awesome - Beautiful Works of Art. It's nice to see that the old way of doing things hasn't died out.
amazing work and craftmanship. I am overwhelm by the commitment, patient and detailing.
Thank you so much for your kind words!
OR you can see this video :Globe Making: How the World is Made (1955) | British Pathé
its easy
Anti-Social I just saw that too. They make it look a lot easier than what he seems to be doing. Maybe he should take a look at that film.
I agree
They are using plastic gores on those, still great but different quality and mass produced identical. Ours are made by wetting and stretching paper gores and hand painted with watercolours.
Um no... No plastic in that video. The way they make is the same since 1492 as explained in the video. Thin layers of of paper over wooden spheres to create shells. 9 layers of plaster. Then a paper map glued on to the plaster. Followed by a spray of varnish. They just make it look easy because almost every employee has about 30 years of experience.
look at the upload date of the BP video, he started in 2008, I bet he kicked himself when he saw that vid, if he has indeed seen it.
There's a British Pathe film from 1954 showing how globes were made. The British exported globes all round the world.
I saw it on BFI player at some point ages ago. I'm really hoping the huge Map exihibition that happened at The British Museum is repeated it was amazing.
It's very beautiful Churchill globe!
2:08 it is so satisfying to watch him cut that line 😍
so beautiful, its making me emotional
This is what I call, world class!
Seriously, if I spend $80,000 on something, it must have either a rather powerful engine and four tires, or a roof and a basement. But if I had some extra piles of money sitting around, one of these beauties would look pretty sharp in my living room!
got one they are amazing quality. deserves all the success he can get.
Aww thank you so much!
It must be quite a thing to figure out how those pieces fit together so everything lines up. Imagine if you put all the pieces on and there was a gap at the end?
Yes you have to re-make the globe again. With anything handmade there will always be human error which is the beauty of it. You just have to forgive yourself, learn from it and start again.
If you had a big enough house and the spare cash the Churchill globe would make a very nice feature and talking point.
Simply marvellous
Put me down for a Churchill - when I win the lottery. :P
How do you get the wrinkles out ..You don't make it in the first place 😂😂
what happens if they hire someone that believes in a flat earth lol
Who'd be dumb enough to hire a flat earther?
Apart from another flat earther of course.
Ahahahahahah flat earthier lololollolololol so funny joke gahahahah
Then it becomes a poster which I’m guessing is way easier to make.
the earth is flat. man made globes. globetards are the dumbest people on the plane (t)
@@76remix25 Flat head
that big one glob.. amazing. I want it :)
Nice. I will move to London. Can I get the job? 😁
It´s amazing!
Good story! Building globes British Path does a fine story as well,...without all the American journalist crap....British,you don’t see the commentator....American,The commentator is always on camera.....as a matter of fact,it’s always over the top story telling,....just the facts ma’am!
The British Pathé film is from 1955... this broadcast is from 2017. British Television today is much different and more of your ‘American’ style. American Television from 1955 was very much like, if not the same, as British Pathé. Although Sunday Morning and British Pathé are in a similar medium, you are making an unfair comparison between Television from 1955 and 2017.
Thanks,
Harrell Bloc
It's outstanding🤩😘🤩😍
How do they perfectly scale the printed templates of the globe
Very very interesting! Amazing. Now a quick Qudstion: what do you call the Persian Gulf on your globes?
Quich response: Persian Gulf
Gen 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
Gen 1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
Gen 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
I just wouldn't sell it in countries where they will try ti arrest me for making a ball.
I appreciate you
Thank is so kind, thank you!
I just watch a short film on a British company in 1955 that made 60,000 globes a year all by hand like this company.
Yes the British Pathe video, they were not hand painted globes or traditionally handcrafted like ours - but still amazingly made and an important part of globe-making history!
I want one of Mars... Dear Santa! :-)
We've done a Mars!
Cool! Guess I need to save up some money :-)
That would be a pointless map because there’s no oceans and no country borders. It’s just different color rock.
@@tewstronge9173 Oh, but there are geological locations on mars that scientist have mapped out so you very well could make a globe of mars with those locations on it.
@@lonerider92 Exactly, the fact that Mars has some of the most interesting geological features in the solar system would be anything but pointless.
Brutal!
You could do a special offer - a free Pluto or Uranus with your next Earth globe.
We might have to double the price of the Earth globe to do that! Still the time & materials of two globes ;)
@@Globemakers :-) Yes and I expect NASA owns the copyright of all the details.
Was that richard hammond at the end
Nope
I didn’t know Le Chiffre made globes
Just your average genius
Where are the Oblate Spheroid pear-shaped "GLOBES"?
Whats that about kashmir? Why he say he can go to prison if he labels it incorrectly?
India wants Kashmir, Pakistan wants it, Kashmir itself wants to be independent. For years there have been terrorist attacks etc. That's the reason why he said that.
Because he can get in trouble by both India and Pakistan, if they mark the entire Kashmir region as being of part of one country, instead of leaving it disputed.
OK I want one of those 40 Church Hills but only have 1400
how to make a map design on paper ?
That could be a whole different video!
Nowadays 2 sheets of flat plastic are imprinted with a distorted image of a hemisphere. (For the northern and southern hemispheres.)
Both of the flat plastic sheets are then separately moulded into a hemisphere (removing the distortion) in a heated mould... Both hemispheres are then trimmed and joined together to form the finished globe. Voila! A perfectly smooth globe with FAR superior imagery than found on any old fashioned handmade globe.
21st Century technology trumps 17th Century technology.
P.S. If you are not rich you can still buy superb seamless globes for less than $50 if you browse around the usual online shops.
He stopped all food supplies to Bangal & was a major reason why 10 million people starved to death in Bengal famine.
"It's (Indians) their own fault...for breeding like rabbits"
:- Winston Churchill
( His views on Indians )
Well he lots of horrible views, that is why he lost the general election right after ww2. He did make it back in to power, but it was short lived. Time makes a hero, or villain out of people.
We need to take in to question that the famine happened in the middle of WW2.
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are Flat-Earthers
I love GLOBES
2:33 oops 😂😂
If only I didn't live on a budget!
If only the Earth was flat!. It would be so much easier! ;)
It is flat and stationary.
0:28 Madagascerr
So how were they made previously? By robots? lol Globes have always been made by hand, even the cheapest ones. These are nice Globes though ;-)
Exactly, we are making them in the same way they have been made for hundreds of years, that's the magic of it! Currently modern ones are otherwise made by machines for the most part.
Humans are an anachronism.
More than "nice" - stunningly beautiful!
For this amount of money you can buy a new one 🤓
Frivolous things for people with too much money.
👍❤️🇹🇳
If I had the money...
Thanks glad you like what we are doing!
@@Globemakers Just read about you this last Saturday (11/02/2019) in a magazine for kids.
I would order a large globe with no other writings on it. But a year later I still lack the money... 😭😭😭😭😭
Earth has always been a stationary PLANE!
Please explain why people in Australia can not see Polaris
00:31
Do they do flat ones
The globe is a projection of the flat earth. They literally show you they are paying flat maps onto a ball. Lol.
God also worked in your company, He made one with living creatures on it.😅
3:22 I thought she was gonna say 300,000 dollars and that is justified. How does he run a business like this ... 600 orders a year and one is 1300 how does he keep a business?
Very kind of you to say, we have not quite reached a $300,000 globe! We have many sizes and styles so pricing starts over $1,000 and goes up from there for the bigger sizes and more detailed globes.
Until the 60s globe were all hand made.
I'm going to have to call "BS" on the 6 month prison statement.
I guess you did not google it then .. they proposed a 7 year jail sentence to start (see articles going back to 2016) ... and the 6 month one is still being stated as of 2024 .... google .. then comment?
@@Globemakers
Google lies.
The 🌎 Australia Asia Europe Africa America
Why does it all have to be done by hand? Why not by a machine?
Why would you not want it to be done by hand? We are keeping a tradition that goes back to the 1400's alive, employing people who enjoy working with their hands and creating, and our customers come to us as they don't want mass produced items. We create high quality globes and each is one of a kind. Like the difference between a hand painted work of art on your wall (a real painting) or a print out from your computer of a painting that anyone can print and have the same of. The quality and meaning would be totally different.
It's the difference between a Honda and a Lamborghini
Do you sell ones uneffected by the mandela effect geography changes ??
We make 3d globes which are accurate representations of our planet and not distorted. This is different than making flat maps. Flat maps are projections and you will often see differences in how the world is shown based on which projection is being used and who is making the map. There are a lot of interesting videos and articles written about this if you want to know more.
@@Globemakers yes but do you remember a time when south america was below north america?
@@Globemakers I think you guys don't understand what the Mandela effect is all about. 😂
@@stonebender4183 Nope, it's never been that way.
@@StardustLegacyFighter i can tell by your answer it you who dont now😂😂😂
As amazing as this guy's work is, it in no way compares to the artistry of globe making from several hundred years ago.
Why?
Because he relies on computers
Intéressant! Mais pourquoi personne ne lui demande s'il connait d'autres cartes de la Terre? Des cartes interdites au public! Par exemple la réalisation d'une terre à partir des cartes comme celle de Piri Reis, ou bien d'autres encore soient disant fausses? Je suis sur que le résultat final serait très intéressant! Stéph.
Interesting! But why doesn't anyone ask him if he knows any other maps of the Earth? Maps that are forbidden to the public! For example the realization of an earth from maps like the one of Piri Reis, or other so-called fake ones? I am sure that the final result would be very interesting! Stéph.
Bonjour Stéph, nous réalisons des cartes du monde modernes et à jour. C'est notre objectif. Cependant, nous prenons également des commandes de toutes sortes afin de créer des cartes fantastiques ou des recréations de différentes époques sur demande. Nous fabriquons également la Lune, Mars, les globes célestes et bien d'autres choses intéressantes.
@@Globemakers Alors là Chapeau bas! Mais il faudrait aussi les montrer dans vos vidéos! Stéph.
So hats off to you! But you should also show them in your videos! Stéph.
It should be able to be done digitally using a printer..
They want to preserve the craftsmanship
Why bother buying one of these?, ... why not buy a Replogle globe instead?!?, ... such as a Diplomat or President model.
People buy things because they like them, they perhaps don't want something mass produced and they want something high quality, handmade and personalised. Maybe they find one thing more beautiful than the other.. the style, colours, materials, design elements. You can say 'why bother buying one of these' about most things in the world .. but if everyones houses were filled with the exact same things and everyone had the same taste the world would be a very boring place.
Most people won't, because it's very expensive and not really compatible for an average consumer. If money is no object, then there would be no point in settling for anything less than premium.
That's why these things are perfect for the rich elite, but the rest of us shouldn't feel bad, because it's just an expensive gimmick. I know several companies that make excellent globes for a much more affordable price, even if they're not 100% hand made.
My grandmother was a live-in maid at the mansion of some very rich people. There was a globe, but it was definitely not a Replogle!
how the Chinese do it so easily and cheaply
Simple, they don't get paid.
When comparing products you have to look at the quality of materials and craftsmanship as well as the ethics of the company and how they treat their artists and makers.
Well Kashmir is an integral part of INDIA...You shouldn't be afraid of inculcating it as India's territory
I was scrolling down to see any indian ranting... You, the very first one and exactly on job. 😂
Living in denial isn't good for your mental health. Acknowledge the truth! And kill all of us at once.
When i say 'you' I meant to India, not you in person.
You might be a fellow good human, I hope. Don't take the geopolitical issues so personal. A common men expect those who are under oppression, has nothing to do with these kind of disputes🙏
Kashmir is a part of India. 🙏 🇮🇳
Of course it is but they'll never show that on a globe or world map, because it will cause a huge controversy.
Tumhre chillane se kuch nhi hoga... Not everyone in the world is bhakt. World live with facts and everyone knows Kashmir isn't indian territory.
@@ajaz8765 Kashmir hum chahte nahi hai vo hamara hi hai. Bhakti hum karte hai tab hi to Pakistan ki phati padi hai. Aur jaha tak World ki baat hai duniya bhi maanti hai k kashmir Bharat ka part hai. Tuhe bhi agar kashmir chahiye to aajao border pr aur le lo. 🙏 Jay Shree Ram 🚩 Jay Hind 🇮🇳
Why don't you outsource to India or China, so we, the world's nothing more than the "standard and poor", can buy a Itsy bitsy teenie globe for, let's say, less than £300 :-)
Anyway, what you do is wonderful.
Awww well we live in London and want to see every globe that is made to ensure the quality and craftsmanship of each, we are training the artists etc ... it can take years to train a Globemaker so we'd need to be there by their side every day. We like that we handcraft all right in our studio in London and pay proper wages etc ☺
The 36 people who down voted this video, want him to build a flat earth plate... Read more
Google earth makes the best globe.
it's flat....that's why flight times are almost the same west to east and east to west despite the earth spinning 1000 mile per hour.
Google earth .. costs nothing
Slightly a different purpose and meaning ... don't see one as replacing the other
Google Earth needs a battery
I dont think that this handcraftmanship is making sense . . . maybe elswere but not there, just like a made in China one, maybe bigger
What?
Your comment doesn't make any sense.
THE EARTH IS FLAT.
Pff... You believe in the Earth?
Like your skull.
It’s a donut
Gabe Hey yes that is a theory I believe in. There are multiple suns that come out of the mddle at diffrent heights. That is how seasons work. Also the change positions. A doughnut shaped earth would be hard to explain without a image.