Corrections (Thank you to everyone pointing these out): At 1:42 I say that the spur line is not in use, it still is in use by the steelworks that currently occupy the site. At 3:25 Salisbury is spelt incorrectly. At 7:12 the Beenleigh and Tennyson lines met at South Coast Junction (Yeerongpilly) not Boggo Junction (Dutton Park), Boggo Junction is further north where the Wooloongabba branch split off from the line that goes to South Bank station. A few people pointed out that I am pronouncing Nyanda incorrectly as it is pronounced Nigh - anda not Nee - anda, apologies for this.
The spur line is also standard guage, which I always found very confusing until I learnt that it was specifically for the delivery of steel. Since that steel is coming from down south, having the spur be standard gauge saves having to transfer it to a narrow gauge train at Acacia Ridge for the sake of an additional few km of travel.
Well done. Your impression of Michael Berkman was spot on😆 The Tennyson line is useful - my train to Oxley has been diverted through there a couple of times over the years due to issues between the City and Corinda, but as you say, there isn't much of an argument for reopening the old station. I must admit I'd never heard of Gloucester Street, even though I've ridden past it many times. Excellent work - hope to see more Brisbane rail stuff from you in the future.
I thought this was Bloody Brilliant. Very well done. Informative and with a degree of comedic value. Personally I loved the Typo's or spelling glitches and assumed they were there to add a bit of humour to what could have been a boring Topic for some. If they weren't intentional then they were an unintended Bonus in my Eyes. The Skit about the Pollies, in particular about the Greens cracked me up, as I wasn't expecting it. You Guys really nailed the Greens Party response. I'm still PMSL thinking about it, and Kudos to the Actor who Played the Greenie. He should get an Oscar for his method acting prowess. In short, I would not change a thing about this Video, spelling or otherwise, and I hope you make many more just like it. It informed and amused all in a neat Package. God, I can't get the image of old mate pulling out the Bong out of my Head. SPMSL So kudos to all on a Job well done. Hope to see many more in the future just like it. Cheers
Good video, as a former nearby resident of the old Nyanda station and now the Tennyson station, it's cool to see some of the history put put there to the world. I definitely feel the most needed public transport in the Tennyson area would be a citycat, with stops at the tennis centre, the northern end of Yeronga and then to the UQ station, there is a hazard of rocks on the eastern banks near the Eleanor schonell bridge but the rest of the river down to the walter taylor bridge is deeper and wider than some of the other parts of the river serviced.
I was walking by the Nyandu station site just a couple weeks ago, was thinking I needed to look it up. Thanks for saving me the trouble 😁 Great video, glad to see QR finally getting the attention it deserves. Triumph of Narrow Gauge!
The Tennyson line was insanely useful on the off chance your Beenleigh or Ipswich line got routed through it during peak hour. I lived with a woman who was able to catch a train to work at Southbank without changing trains or going through the CBD.
I worked as a security guard on the suberban rail network. I was on the Tennyson line at one point, guarding unlocked doors, with no platform. Very interesting video. Thank you for this piece of history preserved.
Another interesting and entertaining video, with the production values going up a notch! You've reminded me of train drivers saying "Doboy.. Doboy station" years ago
It would cut so much time to have the Tennyson line operational for those going to Ipswich from Beenleigh. No more going all the way to Southbank/Roma to change over. It's annoying not having a direct station for the Tennis centre. I know other countries use a V shape track to allow trains into Tennyson and back to the City/Gold Coast line.
Actually there are triangles on both ends of the Tennyson line, allowing trains to move from either Moorooka or Yeerongpilly to Sherwood or Corinda and vice versa. Empty trains utilise these movements on a regular basis.
Tennyson station backs on to my family’s business, the log yard seen in your video is all ours haha. This was the reason why I chose to watch your video, great background!
Great video again. Well done guys. You made it interesting and you made some great points, AND you used the word "unique" correctly - awesome and unusual for your generation. The simulated interview? Now THAT was funny! Great job.
Having ridden the line from the Gold Coast to Brisbane for roughly 2 years to get to my classes at QUT, it's quite intriguing seeing all these unused stations & what became of them. I had my suspicions that there used to be a station beneath the overpass at Nyanda! EDIT: Your pronunciation of Beenleigh as "Binley" is a riot!
I was lucky to take the Tennyson loop when I was visiting a few months back due to track closures for CRR. A positive of not experiencing the full network functioning.
I seem to remember during Expo getting a direct service from Auchenflower to Vulture Street/South Brisbane via the Tennyson line. I could be making this up because I turned 18 that year and was pissed for most of it.
The WTT for the 1988 Expo (reports.oldstuff.online/tt/qld/ttq88WTTsuburban.pdf) indicates there were several services taking the route you described - seems to be 9:17am, 10:17am and 11:17am weekday departures from Central.
You are definitely correct I can assure you. There were regular services from Ipswich than ran via Corinda -Tennyson-Yeerongpilly to Expo. Even prior to the Expo, one direct service from Ipswich to Bowen Hills ran via Tennyson in the morning peak, while in the afternoon peak the "Ipswich via South Brisbane" train departed Central at 4.49pm each weekday.
9:17 the reason for the long distance EMU and the Silver Bullet was at the time they were the only option that allowed for a partial side disarm of the train doors. Quite often a standard EMU would fill in and as a school kid we always enjoyed opening the doors to no where in rear carriages.
Thanks for the video. I've ridden the Tennyson line a couple of times including by a 2000 set, and I'm pretty sure by the ICE with the most recent in 1999 when it was used for diverted Ipswich line services which happened to coincide with a visit to Brissy.. So keeping the line open is a vital link. Re-opening the station is another matter entirely.
I work near the Nyanda station, every time I drive past it I keep thinking it was a train platform for the old workshops or something from the early 1900’s but I had no idea it was an actual passenger station.
I remember when I was a child and way before the train bridge over the Brisbane River, the Exhibition train from the Cleveland line would divert out over to the Beenleigh line at Park Road Station, then onto the Tennyson line and along the Ipswich line and on into the exhibition. It was a bit of a long haul in those days and the train was very crowded but when you're a kid and excited about the EKKA it didn't matter at all. Those were the days.
Great video. Answered many of the questions I had after riding on the line for the first time a few months ago during south Brisbane track closures. Keep up the great work. Not a bad video yet
Thank you so much for this wonderful insight into Brisbane's rail network. History is fascinating to me. It creates a big picture for me as to how we all got to where we are today. Thanks again. See you on the next one. Take care 👍🏽.
Broooo!!! You are killing me!! How could you NOT include the abandoned Doboy (pronounced dough - boy) station!! It was in between Hemmant and Murrarie. It shut down in 1993 when the meatworks and tannery shut down. Also they're going to put in a line going from Salisbury to Beaudesert which will have stations going through Acacia Ridge, Algester, Flagstone, Browns Plains etc. Please do more videos on your channel, I love this sort of stuff!! There used to be stations after Ferny Grove going up to Mt Glorious too.
Don't forget, the Merivale bottleneck disappears with Cross River Rail - but you still have the three track bottleneck which causes all manner of issues.
I lived across the street from the Tennyson train station growing up in the late 90's, the station wasn't in use but everything remained powered and useable. Very nostalgic and fun times pranking the emergency box. My family then moved 2min from the Rocklea train station, always cool seeing the history of the station and the spur line that cuts off into the steel factory. I know they utilised the line before 2016 but no idea after that.
So… this is kinda perfect timing I recently went past Nyanda station two days ago, I did wonder what it was for or its history. The same goes for the third line, that extends all the way through to South Bank, I had no clue of its purpose as a dual gauge track. This video was really well made, and was an amazing look into some older stations. That’s a sub from me
I went to high school by steam train in the late 60’s. Nyanda was a platform without a station office or even waiting shed from memory. However when Salisbury State High had 1500 students there was an ocean of maroon shirted students heading south on that platform as there were no high schools down that way until you get to Beenleigh although I think Sunnybank High must have been opened by then. The Gloucester St station was also there between Vulture St (now called Southbank) and Park Road. It’s hard to see riding in the train now as it is hidden between two hills unless you remember it as it was but it was pretty cute even in those days.
At 1:42 I say that the spur line is not in use, it still is in use by the steelworks that currently occupy the site. ~ The siding is called Pradella Siding
There used to be a Thorroldtown station between Wooloowin and Eagle Junction. It got closed because those two stations are pretty close together, and another one in between was not needed.
Doboy station, a blast from the past. Used to have limited times to service part of meat works that is closed now. I did use it once or twice when I felt like having a wander around the cow paddocks :) I used to use Gloucester Street at one time, occasionally Tennyson, and once Pinkenba.
I’m not a spoon, but I’m really enjoying your channel - looking forward to when the next one comes out. So much so that I’m ringing the bell for the first time ever 😮😂
It’s also worth noting that part of the reason the Tennyson line closed was because other than low ridership, the shuttle train also did get in the way of freight trains coming in from out west which were going to the port.
The city network needs an aggressive overhaul, as I have frequented Sydney. They overhauled their own train network, 4 tracks, inner two are for station stopping and the outer two are for express. And they have only kept a couple of historical stations, where the rest have been knocked down with overhead station with stair and lift access. But what do you expect when it has been privatised with no competition, I can foresee an aggressive upgrade at the last minute to accommodate the Olympic visitors.
We need TransLink to actually start linking more towns with public transport. Places out past Rosewood have the lines (e.g., Gatton, Laidley, Helidon), but are only “serviced” twice per week by QLD Rail’s Westlander service, which is expensive compared to the 59c TransLink fares. Otherwise, residents have to catch the one bus line, which runs infrequently, to Rosewood in order to catch the train to Ipswich and further into Brisbane. I know MANY people who want to catch the train instead of driving, especially with the 50 cent fares now, but simply cannot because the service is so unreliable. Yet having large coal and transport trains come through those towns multiple times a day is perfectly fine and dandy - it really doesn’t make sense why the trains can’t service these slightly further out stations that have usable lines
With Tennyson, I think reopening the station isn't necessary. And there is actually room at Yeerongpilly, inbetween the most western track and the second most western there is room for one more platform, and the second most western track isn't used by the gold coast service as it directly goes into tennyson itself. So it is completely possible to reopen Tennyson, and due to short distance could come every 10 minutes and only demand one train. Meanwhile Corinda already has a platform specifically for it.
The Nyanda overpass was a level crossing elimination project that failed to eliminate the level crossing. And no mention of old Bowen Hills station? The Up platform and ramp up to Campbell Street are still mostly there.
i think tennyson could be used in the future if it was underground using an east west route or a city circle loop or a future metro system. Keep up the great work.
There was a period of time where I had to catch train from Springield Central to Moorooka, the Tennyson line would have been greatly appreciated as opposed to having to change to the Beenleigh line at Roma St.
Former Planner here, one of the primary reasons for the closure of Tennyson was to free up slots on the Ipswich line and the Beenleigh line, the Tennyson line took up much needed slots in order to boost the frequency on the Beenleigh and Ipswich lines (and Merivale Bridge), as turnback factors need to be taken into account.
Great effort. Lots of work in this video. Just so you know, "fair use" will satisfy TH-cam's decision makers when it comes to copyrighted material repurposed in your videos, as it's based on US copyright law, but Australian copyright law (among other countries') does not have such a thing. So while you shouldn't have issues with TH-cam, it's still possible to run into issues if someone has a problem with you using their intellectual property and the laws of the country they're based in don't have free use provisions. Of course you're absolutely unlikely to run into such issues, but it's good to be aware that there's always that risk.
Amazing video! However one thing you didn’t mention is that there is part of Mayne still left! As you go underneath the main road, look towards the yard before leaving whilst heading north and you can see a small platform just underneath. From what I presume this is either that of Mayne or an old Bowen Hills Platform, also the older Doomben station is still seen!
That bit that looked like a small platform is part of an old signalling shed and not Mayne station which is 20 metres north of the bit you're talking about. I also thought that it was part of Mayne station, but if you look at old aerial imagery you can see that the station and the signalling shed are different structures.
I think there's an assumption that this line would have to go into the city. Why not lean into its orbital nature, and send trains from Ipswich -> Tennyson -> Dutton Park -> Cleveland? For the people living in Tennyson this means they have to change trains to access the city but they get a fast and reliable train to Yeerongpilly rather than a slow and unreliable bus. But more importantly it would be useful for a whole bunch of people along the Ipswich, Springfield, Beenleigh and Cleveland lines who want to make those cross-suburban trips. And presumably there is less of an issue with capacity if you stay in the outer areas of the network and don't go anywhere near the South Brisbane bottleneck? You could also potentially send direct trains between the city and Tennyson when there's an event on at the Tennis Centre, as a special service, but it doesn't have to be an everyday thing (and most likely such a service would be running at off-peak times when the network's less crowded).
It's refreshing to see an enthusiast acknowledge that a random publically pushed proposal is far more complicated then it seems. Too often people seem to think you can just add more trains to an existing track and everything will be fine, but it is rarely that simple. In instance I saw a facebook commenter try to claim that the Longlea station relocation was a waste of money, and that the government could be reactivating the Beaudesert branch line for the same cost..... Just to expand on the quad track issue, this is something that simply has to be addressed when you look at the strategic long-term planning of the network, but even this doesn't make room for Tennyson. While there is no clear timeline, passanger services on the flagstone corridor is about as inevitable as the Redcliffe line. I mean that entirely unironically. It may be 10 years, 20 years, 50 years before we get there, but that's actually the reality of most major transit corridors (including major highways/motorways). They can exist conceptually for decades before serious planning occurs. Thing is, we're already running those 3 tracks to death, and once the flagstone line happens, that's a whole other service to add to the mix. And of course by the time we get that done, i am sure the expectation will be that Beenliegh and Gold Coast trains are even more frequent in the off peak time periods than they are now, so 3 tracks may not even be enough for the future of the current services. So its not really a case of adding a 4th track for Tennyson, because that hypotehtical 4th track is already needed for the hypothetical demands of more frequent existing services and potential future services to Flagstone. As for the shuttle option, yeah nah its just a bad idea. Here is a very simple litnus test for any rail proposal: could you achieve similar results with a bus? Thats not an endorsement of the current bus service, I dont think it's adequate. But if you were to run a set shuttle bus service, with 3 stop emulating the rail route, I believe you would achieve avout the same outcome as a shuttle train. I can see use in services that run beyond a shuttle set up, linking Ipswich to Beenleigh, or Beenleigh to the city via Indooroopilly, but if we're just doing a shuttle from Yeerongpilly to Corinda, you dont need a train for that.
One can only assume that with the construction of cross river rail and the realignment of the Gold Coast line to link with the Sunshine Coast utilising the new track that much of the bottle neck issues will no longer be relevant and this track can be utilised once more in some fashion.
Reopening and rebuilding or upgrading the Tennyson station at the tennis centre would make sense, especially during the tennis in January. Every January, It is confusing for people trying to get to the tennis centre via the city to Corinda and then transferring to buses from Corinda train station to the tennis centre in Tennyson (versus vice). Bloody nightmare for locals trying to get around Graceville, Corinda, and Oxley area while the tennis is on.
Really informative, love this video. Potential other videos (if you haven’t already) Has there ever been a suggestion to link Loganholme / Carbrook to Thornlands all the way to Chandler / Capalaba ? Also, expanding the Springfield line. Both regions have a nice allotment of land to build upon & are planned growth areas. If you build it, they will come.
When I went to the Tennis Centre at Tennyson I was astounded that the adjacent rail station was closed. Thousands of people had to walk kilometers while there is a train station at the venue. Just Queensland incompetence now the Olympics are being held there.
I used that station when I went to Salisbury high back in 1978 just before it got taken away, a lot of school students use to catch the train from there rather then Salisbury station.
great video dude, one tip I would recommend try and keep the mic at a steady distance from ya mouth and far enough away to not pick up your breathing, then when editing just boost ya audio to get the best from the voice. Also a fuzzy wind guard on the mic will help. Or just get a body mic.
Not too weird for train stations to be less than 600m apart if the area allows for foot traffic, which i assume, with the local factory, would have been a lot at the time. A good example is Tokyo, where Okachimachi Station and Ueno Station are ~450m apart from each other. In all honesty, Brisbane's train system is long due for an overhaul but the local government refuses to put in the work, and the local suburbs aren't very walkable with its wide streets and concrete/tar ground. It's too hot to walk anywhere due to little to no shading and the heat islands.
also, yes, please, Brisbane needs orbital lines. even the bus services are heavily radial and its a damn nightmare to go between two suburbs next to each other if they're not on the way to the city.
I went to Nyanda High School that was across the road from the station. I know the students from the high school and the TAFE near there would have liked the station to stay there rather than have to walk to Salisbury or Rocklea 😅
Corrections (Thank you to everyone pointing these out):
At 1:42 I say that the spur line is not in use, it still is in use by the steelworks that currently occupy the site.
At 3:25 Salisbury is spelt incorrectly.
At 7:12 the Beenleigh and Tennyson lines met at South Coast Junction (Yeerongpilly) not Boggo Junction (Dutton Park), Boggo Junction is further north where the Wooloongabba branch split off from the line that goes to South Bank station.
A few people pointed out that I am pronouncing Nyanda incorrectly as it is pronounced Nigh - anda not Nee - anda, apologies for this.
Also, Kuraby is NOT pronounced Kirby.
The spur line is also standard guage, which I always found very confusing until I learnt that it was specifically for the delivery of steel. Since that steel is coming from down south, having the spur be standard gauge saves having to transfer it to a narrow gauge train at Acacia Ridge for the sake of an additional few km of travel.
You say Beeeeeeeeenleigh really weird.
@@YeahNo Clearly just got a bit of an accent, calm yourself
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"I'm going to go home in the only way I can: my private automobile." Too real.
Very enjoyable video indeed. And thanks for the shoutout!
Well done. Your impression of Michael Berkman was spot on😆 The Tennyson line is useful - my train to Oxley has been diverted through there a couple of times over the years due to issues between the City and Corinda, but as you say, there isn't much of an argument for reopening the old station.
I must admit I'd never heard of Gloucester Street, even though I've ridden past it many times. Excellent work - hope to see more Brisbane rail stuff from you in the future.
You guys are awesome. Love the re-enactment of the greens mp.
Brilliant video gents
re-enactment? I thought it was found footage 😁🤣
My new favourite channel's second video and it's a good one again, you're 10 out of 10 so far. Nice work all :)
I absolutly love that your channel focuses on Queensland Railways, it is great to see educational videos about it, am definitely subscribing for more.
I thought this was Bloody Brilliant. Very well done. Informative and with a degree of comedic value. Personally I loved the Typo's or spelling glitches and assumed they were there to add a bit of humour to what could have been a boring Topic for some. If they weren't intentional then they were an unintended Bonus in my Eyes. The Skit about the Pollies, in particular about the Greens cracked me up, as I wasn't expecting it. You Guys really nailed the Greens Party response. I'm still PMSL thinking about it, and Kudos to the Actor who Played the Greenie. He should get an Oscar for his method acting prowess. In short, I would not change a thing about this Video, spelling or otherwise, and I hope you make many more just like it. It informed and amused all in a neat Package. God, I can't get the image of old mate pulling out the Bong out of my Head. SPMSL So kudos to all on a Job well done. Hope to see many more in the future just like it. Cheers
Good video, as a former nearby resident of the old Nyanda station and now the Tennyson station, it's cool to see some of the history put put there to the world. I definitely feel the most needed public transport in the Tennyson area would be a citycat, with stops at the tennis centre, the northern end of Yeronga and then to the UQ station, there is a hazard of rocks on the eastern banks near the Eleanor schonell bridge but the rest of the river down to the walter taylor bridge is deeper and wider than some of the other parts of the river serviced.
Seems crazy not to utilise the river when it’s right there.
I was walking by the Nyandu station site just a couple weeks ago, was thinking I needed to look it up. Thanks for saving me the trouble 😁
Great video, glad to see QR finally getting the attention it deserves. Triumph of Narrow Gauge!
The perfect combination of interesting, nerdy and funny while taking place in slightly eerie settings - my perfect comfort watch. Keep making videos!
The Tennyson line was insanely useful on the off chance your Beenleigh or Ipswich line got routed through it during peak hour. I lived with a woman who was able to catch a train to work at Southbank without changing trains or going through the CBD.
I worked as a security guard on the suberban rail network. I was on the Tennyson line at one point, guarding unlocked doors, with no platform. Very interesting video. Thank you for this piece of history preserved.
Great work on this video. Well researched and amusing little scenes and delivery are a great trademark for your films.
Another interesting and entertaining video, with the production values going up a notch!
You've reminded me of train drivers saying "Doboy.. Doboy station" years ago
You'd be flat out trying to find it now.
Another great video, good work fellas
It would cut so much time to have the Tennyson line operational for those going to Ipswich from Beenleigh. No more going all the way to Southbank/Roma to change over. It's annoying not having a direct station for the Tennis centre. I know other countries use a V shape track to allow trains into Tennyson and back to the City/Gold Coast line.
It would still save time if you would have to change at sherwood
Beenleigh-Ipswich "customers" do not pay lmao
Actually there are triangles on both ends of the Tennyson line, allowing trains to move from either Moorooka or Yeerongpilly to Sherwood or Corinda and vice versa. Empty trains utilise these movements on a regular basis.
Tennyson station backs on to my family’s business, the log yard seen in your video is all ours haha. This was the reason why I chose to watch your video, great background!
Great video again. Well done guys. You made it interesting and you made some great points, AND you used the word "unique" correctly - awesome and unusual for your generation. The simulated interview? Now THAT was funny! Great job.
It was a treat to learn about the city that I grew up in, good upload
Having ridden the line from the Gold Coast to Brisbane for roughly 2 years to get to my classes at QUT, it's quite intriguing seeing all these unused stations & what became of them. I had my suspicions that there used to be a station beneath the overpass at Nyanda!
EDIT: Your pronunciation of Beenleigh as "Binley" is a riot!
I was lucky to take the Tennyson loop when I was visiting a few months back due to track closures for CRR. A positive of not experiencing the full network functioning.
I seem to remember during Expo getting a direct service from Auchenflower to Vulture Street/South Brisbane via the Tennyson line. I could be making this up because I turned 18 that year and was pissed for most of it.
The WTT for the 1988 Expo (reports.oldstuff.online/tt/qld/ttq88WTTsuburban.pdf) indicates there were several services taking the route you described - seems to be 9:17am, 10:17am and 11:17am weekday departures from Central.
You are definitely correct I can assure you. There were regular services from Ipswich than ran via Corinda -Tennyson-Yeerongpilly to Expo. Even prior to the Expo, one direct service from Ipswich to Bowen Hills ran via Tennyson in the morning peak, while in the afternoon peak the "Ipswich via South Brisbane" train departed Central at 4.49pm each weekday.
9:17 the reason for the long distance EMU and the Silver Bullet was at the time they were the only option that allowed for a partial side disarm of the train doors. Quite often a standard EMU would fill in and as a school kid we always enjoyed opening the doors to no where in rear carriages.
Thanks for the video. I've ridden the Tennyson line a couple of times including by a 2000 set, and I'm pretty sure by the ICE with the most recent in 1999 when it was used for diverted Ipswich line services which happened to coincide with a visit to Brissy.. So keeping the line open is a vital link. Re-opening the station is another matter entirely.
The Nyanda siding is still in use. Orrcon steel has coils of steel delivered. Happens around 3am most week days
I work near the Nyanda station, every time I drive past it I keep thinking it was a train platform for the old workshops or something from the early 1900’s but I had no idea it was an actual passenger station.
I remember when I was a child and way before the train bridge over the Brisbane River, the Exhibition train from the Cleveland line would divert out over to the Beenleigh line at Park Road Station, then onto the Tennyson line and along the Ipswich line and on into the exhibition. It was a bit of a long haul in those days and the train was very crowded but when you're a kid and excited about the EKKA it didn't matter at all. Those were the days.
Glad to see I'm not the only one who thought about covering Brisbane's old rail stations. Consider me a new fan!
Great video. Answered many of the questions I had after riding on the line for the first time a few months ago during south Brisbane track closures. Keep up the great work. Not a bad video yet
Thank you so much for this wonderful insight into Brisbane's rail network. History is fascinating to me. It creates a big picture for me as to how we all got to where we are today. Thanks again.
See you on the next one. Take care 👍🏽.
This was a good watch, crazy to see how the rail lines have changed over the years. Very good!
Broooo!!! You are killing me!! How could you NOT include the abandoned Doboy (pronounced dough - boy) station!! It was in between Hemmant and Murrarie. It shut down in 1993 when the meatworks and tannery shut down. Also they're going to put in a line going from Salisbury to Beaudesert which will have stations going through Acacia Ridge, Algester, Flagstone, Browns Plains etc. Please do more videos on your channel, I love this sort of stuff!! There used to be stations after Ferny Grove going up to Mt Glorious too.
Love the videos boys! Keep them coming!
Awesome vid and LOL at the Greens MP! Great work guys!
Nice one! Just a little correction though, the spur at Nyanda is still in use by standard gauge trip trains accessing the Orrcon steelworks.
Cheers mate
That was very entertaining and informative. Very enjoyable to watch. Thank you
Don't forget, the Merivale bottleneck disappears with Cross River Rail - but you still have the three track bottleneck which causes all manner of issues.
I lived across the street from the Tennyson train station growing up in the late 90's, the station wasn't in use but everything remained powered and useable. Very nostalgic and fun times pranking the emergency box. My family then moved 2min from the Rocklea train station, always cool seeing the history of the station and the spur line that cuts off into the steel factory. I know they utilised the line before 2016 but no idea after that.
Was worried the first video was a one off. My relief to see a second is immense. Earned yourself a sub
Very good work, keep it up. Nice to see you educating people about Queensland Railways. Hope to see more in the future.
So… this is kinda perfect timing
I recently went past Nyanda station two days ago, I did wonder what it was for or its history.
The same goes for the third line, that extends all the way through to South Bank, I had no clue of its purpose as a dual gauge track.
This video was really well made, and was an amazing look into some older stations. That’s a sub from me
I went to high school by steam train in the late 60’s. Nyanda was a platform without a station office or even waiting shed from memory. However when Salisbury State High had 1500 students there was an ocean of maroon shirted students heading south on that platform as there were no high schools down that way until you get to Beenleigh although I think Sunnybank High must have been opened by then. The Gloucester St station was also there between Vulture St (now called Southbank) and Park Road. It’s hard to see riding in the train now as it is hidden between two hills unless you remember it as it was but it was pretty cute even in those days.
Cheers mateFerny Grove station just down the road from me looked so much different in 1980
I live super close to one of the stations in this video, it's so cool to know the history of a place that I see so often
Awesome ! Very informative. Love it . Also the statements from our re enacted politicians ..funny
At 1:42 I say that the spur line is not in use, it still is in use by the steelworks that currently occupy the site. ~ The siding is called Pradella Siding
Yep I've seen a loco on it before it's used by Qube
There used to be a Thorroldtown station between Wooloowin and Eagle Junction. It got closed because those two stations are pretty close together, and another one in between was not needed.
Awesome video! Only small nitpick I have is that it’s pronounced n-eye-Yan-dah but other than that the video was excellent
Doboy station, a blast from the past. Used to have limited times to service part of meat works that is closed now. I did use it once or twice when I felt like having a wander around the cow paddocks :)
I used to use Gloucester Street at one time, occasionally Tennyson, and once Pinkenba.
The old Doboy Station was a hold your nose as you went through section, and you hoped it did not stop too long there.
I’m not a spoon, but I’m really enjoying your channel - looking forward to when the next one comes out. So much so that I’m ringing the bell for the first time ever 😮😂
Nyanda station serviced the WW2 ammunition And associated workshops at Rocklea. Thousands worked there during the war.
It’s also worth noting that part of the reason the Tennyson line closed was because other than low ridership, the shuttle train also did get in the way of freight trains coming in from out west which were going to the port.
then why was Bindha reopened
@@nickfielding5685 bindha is on the shorncliffe line and has always been open. it used to serve workers and could become TOD in the future
@@nickfielding5685 im actually suprised bindha has somehow survived all the closures, considering its low usage.
The city network needs an aggressive overhaul, as I have frequented Sydney. They overhauled their own train network, 4 tracks, inner two are for station stopping and the outer two are for express. And they have only kept a couple of historical stations, where the rest have been knocked down with overhead station with stair and lift access. But what do you expect when it has been privatised with no competition, I can foresee an aggressive upgrade at the last minute to accommodate the Olympic visitors.
This is a fantastic video. Hello from bundy
This was enjoyable, good work. 11:05 got me.
We need TransLink to actually start linking more towns with public transport. Places out past Rosewood have the lines (e.g., Gatton, Laidley, Helidon), but are only “serviced” twice per week by QLD Rail’s Westlander service, which is expensive compared to the 59c TransLink fares. Otherwise, residents have to catch the one bus line, which runs infrequently, to Rosewood in order to catch the train to Ipswich and further into Brisbane. I know MANY people who want to catch the train instead of driving, especially with the 50 cent fares now, but simply cannot because the service is so unreliable. Yet having large coal and transport trains come through those towns multiple times a day is perfectly fine and dandy - it really doesn’t make sense why the trains can’t service these slightly further out stations that have usable lines
As someone who works as part of the public transport network this history lesson is so valuable! Thanks!
Great episode!
With Tennyson, I think reopening the station isn't necessary. And there is actually room at Yeerongpilly, inbetween the most western track and the second most western there is room for one more platform, and the second most western track isn't used by the gold coast service as it directly goes into tennyson itself. So it is completely possible to reopen Tennyson, and due to short distance could come every 10 minutes and only demand one train. Meanwhile Corinda already has a platform specifically for it.
I recommend it still be opened to help people who don't wanna go to central or fortitude valley for southern stations.
The siding at Nyanda is still in use.
Qube Logistics using that siding and PN doing shunts for them depends on the train
Saw a train in the siding a few months ago. The shiny rails indicated that the siding was being used.
Its used by orrcon steel for coil deliveries too.
Needed a video for breakfast and glad it’s this one
I like how this channel has a very simmilar style to map men
first video here. GREAT stuff guys
The Nyanda overpass was a level crossing elimination project that failed to eliminate the level crossing. And no mention of old Bowen Hills station? The Up platform and ramp up to Campbell Street are still mostly there.
i think tennyson could be used in the future if it was underground using an east west route or a city circle loop or a future metro system. Keep up the great work.
There was a period of time where I had to catch train from Springield Central to Moorooka, the Tennyson line would have been greatly appreciated as opposed to having to change to the Beenleigh line at Roma St.
cool video mate from an old Tagger from 90's on the B line
just found this channel already love it i'd love to see a video on old raillines that now are only used for freight
Former Planner here, one of the primary reasons for the closure of Tennyson was to free up slots on the Ipswich line and the Beenleigh line, the Tennyson line took up much needed slots in order to boost the frequency on the Beenleigh and Ipswich lines (and Merivale Bridge), as turnback factors need to be taken into account.
Interesting insight, thank you very much.
Love the video mate. The style of production reminds me of Jay Foreman’s videos haha
It's official I am the Jay Foreman of Brisbane. Watch out for "Brisbane's Unfinished Motorways" video lol.
Used to catch the Corinda train home from school every afternoon. I think it left Central around 3:30 and was half green and half red on the PIDs.
Really enjoyed it . Great work
Great effort. Lots of work in this video.
Just so you know, "fair use" will satisfy TH-cam's decision makers when it comes to copyrighted material repurposed in your videos, as it's based on US copyright law, but Australian copyright law (among other countries') does not have such a thing. So while you shouldn't have issues with TH-cam, it's still possible to run into issues if someone has a problem with you using their intellectual property and the laws of the country they're based in don't have free use provisions. Of course you're absolutely unlikely to run into such issues, but it's good to be aware that there's always that risk.
Thanks mate
I really enjoyed your video, thank you for the insights.
As a driver. Thank you for this bit of insight and video. I believe you were at bindo last week?
Great video, love it
Glad you enjoyed it!
Amazing video! However one thing you didn’t mention is that there is part of Mayne still left! As you go underneath the main road, look towards the yard before leaving whilst heading north and you can see a small platform just underneath. From what I presume this is either that of Mayne or an old Bowen Hills Platform, also the older Doomben station is still seen!
That bit that looked like a small platform is part of an old signalling shed and not Mayne station which is 20 metres north of the bit you're talking about. I also thought that it was part of Mayne station, but if you look at old aerial imagery you can see that the station and the signalling shed are different structures.
Thanks for taking the time to go on a massive tangent
I think there's an assumption that this line would have to go into the city. Why not lean into its orbital nature, and send trains from Ipswich -> Tennyson -> Dutton Park -> Cleveland? For the people living in Tennyson this means they have to change trains to access the city but they get a fast and reliable train to Yeerongpilly rather than a slow and unreliable bus. But more importantly it would be useful for a whole bunch of people along the Ipswich, Springfield, Beenleigh and Cleveland lines who want to make those cross-suburban trips. And presumably there is less of an issue with capacity if you stay in the outer areas of the network and don't go anywhere near the South Brisbane bottleneck?
You could also potentially send direct trains between the city and Tennyson when there's an event on at the Tennis Centre, as a special service, but it doesn't have to be an everyday thing (and most likely such a service would be running at off-peak times when the network's less crowded).
Very interesting! Cool to see these old places.
It's refreshing to see an enthusiast acknowledge that a random publically pushed proposal is far more complicated then it seems. Too often people seem to think you can just add more trains to an existing track and everything will be fine, but it is rarely that simple. In instance I saw a facebook commenter try to claim that the Longlea station relocation was a waste of money, and that the government could be reactivating the Beaudesert branch line for the same cost.....
Just to expand on the quad track issue, this is something that simply has to be addressed when you look at the strategic long-term planning of the network, but even this doesn't make room for Tennyson.
While there is no clear timeline, passanger services on the flagstone corridor is about as inevitable as the Redcliffe line. I mean that entirely unironically. It may be 10 years, 20 years, 50 years before we get there, but that's actually the reality of most major transit corridors (including major highways/motorways). They can exist conceptually for decades before serious planning occurs.
Thing is, we're already running those 3 tracks to death, and once the flagstone line happens, that's a whole other service to add to the mix. And of course by the time we get that done, i am sure the expectation will be that Beenliegh and Gold Coast trains are even more frequent in the off peak time periods than they are now, so 3 tracks may not even be enough for the future of the current services.
So its not really a case of adding a 4th track for Tennyson, because that hypotehtical 4th track is already needed for the hypothetical demands of more frequent existing services and potential future services to Flagstone.
As for the shuttle option, yeah nah its just a bad idea. Here is a very simple litnus test for any rail proposal: could you achieve similar results with a bus?
Thats not an endorsement of the current bus service, I dont think it's adequate. But if you were to run a set shuttle bus service, with 3 stop emulating the rail route, I believe you would achieve avout the same outcome as a shuttle train. I can see use in services that run beyond a shuttle set up, linking Ipswich to Beenleigh, or Beenleigh to the city via Indooroopilly, but if we're just doing a shuttle from Yeerongpilly to Corinda, you dont need a train for that.
Cool. Interesting, informative. The Tennyson line remains a tempting enigma of possibilities. Ta
Love that you skipped over Doboy. We always called it the ‘blink and you miss it’ station. 😂
One can only assume that with the construction of cross river rail and the realignment of the Gold Coast line to link with the Sunshine Coast utilising the new track that much of the bottle neck issues will no longer be relevant and this track can be utilised once more in some fashion.
Great video guys. Keep it up! Liked & subbed.
Reopening and rebuilding or upgrading the Tennyson station at the tennis centre would make sense, especially during the tennis in January. Every January, It is confusing for people trying to get to the tennis centre via the city to Corinda and then transferring to buses from Corinda train station to the tennis centre in Tennyson (versus vice). Bloody nightmare for locals trying to get around Graceville, Corinda, and Oxley area while the tennis is on.
there is a way to reopen tenson. Yenropily - Sherwood- Roma street -Ferny
Really informative, love this video.
Potential other videos (if you haven’t already)
Has there ever been a suggestion to link Loganholme / Carbrook to Thornlands all the way to Chandler / Capalaba ?
Also, expanding the Springfield line.
Both regions have a nice allotment of land to build upon & are planned growth areas.
If you build it, they will come.
There an abandoned station in Melbourne called General Motors where the Holden factory was between Dandenong and Hallam
Wow! Awesome video! Well researched!
Randomly stumbled apon this and loved it hope for more in the future as I'd love to learn more about this stuff
I remember when the tains were running, I went to school at Tennyson use to get the train from there almost everyday
very good and a excellent production , my husbands Great Uncle GC Willcocks and Grand Father R Willcocks were the builders of the Cleveland line ,
When I went to the Tennis Centre at Tennyson I was astounded that the adjacent rail station was closed. Thousands of people had to walk kilometers while there is a train station at the venue. Just Queensland incompetence now the Olympics are being held there.
I used that station when I went to Salisbury high back in 1978 just before it got taken away, a lot of school students use to catch the train from there rather then Salisbury station.
great video dude, one tip I would recommend try and keep the mic at a steady distance from ya mouth and far enough away to not pick up your breathing, then when editing just boost ya audio to get the best from the voice. Also a fuzzy wind guard on the mic will help. Or just get a body mic.
Interesting vid. Well done
Not too weird for train stations to be less than 600m apart if the area allows for foot traffic, which i assume, with the local factory, would have been a lot at the time. A good example is Tokyo, where Okachimachi Station and Ueno Station are ~450m apart from each other. In all honesty, Brisbane's train system is long due for an overhaul but the local government refuses to put in the work, and the local suburbs aren't very walkable with its wide streets and concrete/tar ground. It's too hot to walk anywhere due to little to no shading and the heat islands.
also, yes, please, Brisbane needs orbital lines. even the bus services are heavily radial and its a damn nightmare to go between two suburbs next to each other if they're not on the way to the city.
I went to Nyanda High School that was across the road from the station. I know the students from the high school and the TAFE near there would have liked the station to stay there rather than have to walk to Salisbury or Rocklea 😅
You certainly nailed the Greens🤣
Nyanda looks so weird, with the overpass pylon right in the middle of the platform