That Travis Ochs facemask non-call was probably the most blatant missed call I have ever seen in college football. I remember Bob Griese screaming "facemask!!" and the replays that showed the official reaching for the flag and not throwing it. Just another chapter in "college football lore" as they say. That we still talk about it 10 years later validates its' place.
@kswildcats1 Agreed. It is about Thursday. But K-Staters seem incessantly bring their record vs Texas into the mix, or their 'more recent' Big 12 Championship. Congrats. On those things. Nebraska has a great tradition that has faltered somewhat in the last decade. If Nebraska doesn't win on Thursday I'll eat my words and say good game.
@f15054l Not going to lie, the team that finished with the most upswing after last season (aside from the Crimson Tide who'll be returning many starters from their national title team) is the Nebraska Cornhuskers. Bo Pellini's gotten that team and the Big Red faithful to believe.
I don't remember saying that we would have won the game. I'm saying that the opportunity to try and win the game was taken away by a bad ref. I've heard that guy has never reffed another college game...which is appropriate, given one of the worst missed calls in the history of college football.
This was a memorable day in college football for three reasons. One was the tackle at 5:44 - often dubbed the worst no-call in history. Hard to see with the low resolution but it was a facemask grab where Crouch's helmet literally was twisted 180º around as he was pulled to the ground backwards by only the facemask. Two was at 6:09 where KSU, up 34-30, scored to go up 40-30. Notice that's the final score. Why no extra point? Bill Snyder correctly realized Nebraska might get one lucky score, but couldn't possibly score twice in 4 seconds, so all he needed to do was have a 2-score lead. The *only* way he would fail to have a 2-score lead is if NU got a defensive 2-point conversion off a blocked kick or bad snap or something. So he kneeled the ball on the conversion to have a 100% chance instead of a 99.99% chance to win. The line was KSU by 10.5, so his decision swung the cover/no-cover in one of the most crazy betting moments in sports history. Three was that, at almost the exact same time that KSU scored that fumble return TD to go up 40-30, a more well-known fumble happened elsewhere - Clint Stoener of Arkansas slipped after taking the snap and put his hand out to stop his fall - that hand held the ball, and he lost control. The "Stumble And Fumble" as it was called, allowed Tennessee to recover and win the game, putting the Vols in the National Title Game. All three of those moments within 15 minutes or so of real time.
nice video, still one of the worst no calls of all time with the facemask, but what can ya do. the thursday night game this year should be a good one. Go Big Red!!!
KSU was so amped for this game that it took 1.5 quarters for them to settle and play to their potential. The yards were clearly in favor of the wildcats. They were a talented but streaky team, and Bishop was no genius. I was there. I was in St. Louis when they lost to A&M. It was the worst day of my life...and my father killed himself on my mother's birthday the year before.
back then it wasnt BILL SNYDER FAMILY STADIUM it was WAGNER FIELD, bill supposed to be getting a top 5 HB and a really good linebacker in 2011 football
We all know about the ACC. Even after the A&M loss KSU was #3 in the BCS, and sent to the alamo bowl. Think of what that would do to the mindset of a 21-year old kid: You're a 3rd and 26 away from the NC and suddenly in one play you're in San Antonio against an unranked Purdue. I wouldn't be surprised if they threw the game for $. Drew Brees was the sophomore QB that beat us, so either way I'm not ashamed.
The facemask was blatent but if you look at the video Crouch would have been corraled for a loss even if Ochs had let him go. NU had a great first drive, Crouch threw a great ball to Davidson (that could not have been defended better), and NU had another good drive in the 4th. 21 earned points. KSU dominated the line of scrimmage, and the match after NU scored their first 14.
I was always amused at how Nebraska Cornholers hang a 10 point loss on a missed facemask penalty on a 4th and 8 play from their own 32. Because of that one play, Nebraska claims they lost the game. One play.
Tell me you don't understand football without telling me you don't understand football.. I'll give you a hint....it was 34 to 30 at that point. The penalty if called gives an automatic first down and penalty yardage to Nebraska....with time to score... Did I explain it well enough for you to understand?
We were a great team. Great. We led the nation in scoring offense, defense, and special teams. We could have beaten the '03 or '07 LSU tigers, and the '10 Auburn tigers. If we would have won it all we would have gotten into a BCS bowl with our 1999 10-1 squad (a better defense). If our aforementioned coaches wouldn't have been raided by Bob Stoops we certainly would have done more damage in the following years.
@tbehmer7 You've convinced me, I am now a Fuskers fan and I am applying for a Nebraska driver's license as we speak. I am smart enough to know who to root for in the State because there only one school and no pro sports teams. It may be a little boring living there but I will quickly become brainwashed and not know how to think anymore. I hear Bo's brother has good taste in boosters' wifes however.
@KCUSA27 If by miserable you mean 'we will make your sides ache from laughter at our slow secondary' you are probably right. The only reason we wouldn't be safe in Manhattan is for fear of our tires getting slashed. Good game anyway.
@ssiedlik I read you CONVENIENTLY omit the 2 non fumbles by 'Cats; 1, going into the end zone by Bishop and 2, the Murphy non fumble at midfield the refs allowed to keep the cornholes in the game. I wonder what your program would be like if you weren't the ONLY game in the State.
I think we brought back snyder to stabilize the program, kind of like bringing back osborne to help. Once we get back on the right track snyder will step down to someone that he feels like is ready for the job. Both programs needed their architects to fix the huge callahan/prince mistakes.
Okay, let's be real: Kansas St was a better team than Nebraska in 1998. We (KSU) had an all around better coaching staff (Mike Stoops, Mark Mangino, Brent Venables), great players, and the home field. A fumble on NU's 1 (by Bishop, laying on his tackler-questionable but right), and another on NU's 40 (by Murphy, even more questionable but also probably correct, and returned for a touchdown), made the game closer than it should have been.
sorry, i need to change a few things QB = NU RB = NU - I don't know if patton and johnson can beat out lucky and glenn wr = MO PURIFY wr = Nunn OT = NU C = there's a guy by the name of brett byford...a really underrated center og = NU TE = KSU despite 3 balanced TEs for NU dline = edge KSU to start the year, but NU does reload at D-line LB = NU secondary = KSU, questions about Bowman and whether Jones and Murillo can step up special teams = KSU I see the Huskers winning in Lincoln
@dragonah2000 I am not a Nebraska fan like that I was stating a fact that another person ask why did they bring down the goal post like that. so just chill I like Neb, but I am not a diehard fan.
I remember this game and I remember being horrified by what I was watching. However, who the fuck was #80?! Maybe I had my face in my hands too long to notice.
Agreed. The next play was worse though ... a Matt Davison (I think it was Davison) was wide, wide, wide open because the corner had simply fallen. One split second and Frost gets that ball off and he might have scored. Ugh. What I do remember the most was the opening drive being interrupted by the Prez to tell me some bombing went on in Israel. Like I give a fuck at this moment. Tell me during Dateline.
Define relevance. You've won a conference championship? That's cute. We didn't have to make a DVD out of it whenever we did that. KSU will never be a perrenial power. Go Big Red.
@chaz6018 It's the color of royalty, and KSU is one of only a handful of schools to use a single pigment as their designated school color. We're unique and you're afraid. It's a common fear of simpletons.
K-State manhandled NU in this game. Only Bishop's manic play and turnovers kept NU in the game. No one who saw the game doubted who was the far superior team. Best team in the nation before Hickson's injury and the epic collapse in the Big XII title game. Ah, well. Life goes on.
Nonetheless, we weren't ready for a NC, like a physically mature young man not ready for an adult relationship. It wasn't in the cards. That's okay, we'll keep playing...at the table we began at, the Big 8. Whether it consists of Colorado, Nebraska, Missouri, Texas A&M, West Virginia, Tulsa, Arkansas State, or the University of Texas-Austin. It doesn't matter, because our spirit is true.
Are you still feeling this way about the Nebraska D? or did that go out the window with the whole Fire Cosgrove campaign? You may have good athletes, but you still have Calahan and Cosgrove coaching, and it's kind of hard to over come incompetent coaching.
that has to be the most bull sh*t play in sports when they didn't call a facemask on #50. I know he didn't intentionally do it so it wasn't a "dirty" play but the ref was right there and i hope he was fired after this game. it's amazing crouch was able to continue.
Tainted the game? There was a non-fumble that the refs called when K-State had the ball on Nebraska's half yard line. Then there was a second non-fumble called by the refs that Nebraska returned for a touchdown. Both those were shown not to be fumbles upon replay. Thats 14 points for Nebraska, due to the refs. I think K-State got the raw end of the deal from the refs, yet we still found a way to win.
@mmcgwire But would Davidson have been open on the next series if the facemask would have been called? We can all live in the past. What if Beasley's QB sneak against OU in 2000 would not have been blown dead? Maybe KSU wins that game, and momentum lifts them against TA&M, setting up a 1-loss total showdown w/ OU and KSU in 2000. Maybe OU still wins that game, and plays FSU in NC, leaving KSU to play Miami in Nawlins. Maybe split NC. Maybe you stay and fight? No...not like you...
When was the last time you won conference title? When was the last time you truly were nationally relevant in football. It's been awhile last I checked. It's funny, Nebraska fans were the best fans in the nation right up until the point where everyone in the North was getting payback. It's easy to act a "champion" when your beating up on everyone else, not so easy when your getting your asskickings returned.
I actually feel sorry for KSU. Their team goes down the drain so fans quit supporting them. Goes to show how true of fans Nebraska has. Even through the disasterous Callahan error, the fans never stopped supporting them. Shame on you KSU fans.
Yeah, Texas was going to drop the LHN. The PAC 12 didn't want the LHN. It worked out for both parties. This conference is still strong despite the predictions. If you haven't heard we're now allies of the SEC effectively putting the Big 12 in one of the top 4 conferences. At the end of the day, we are far better off without Nebraska. So really, it's not so big of a deal. We have more unity now that we've gotten the venom sucked out.
K-State... I'm sorry, I was wrong. Nebraska won by more than 21. Your own coach said you were slow. 6 straight to finish a lopsided rivalry. Not a bad way to end it.
i am responding to powercat2012's comments about nebraska running up the score on kstate from previous games. that's why i used the term moron, couldn't help it. look at the comment a little bit down the page. sorry, youtube's comments are very disorganized. anyways, in 2003, kstate was throwing the ball deep late in the game with their starters with a lead. i think that is the reason that some people made a stink about it. but it's no big deal and they probably should've kept their mouths shut.
@PVcat1 7-5 v Texas in Fball All time (6-2 vs Texas in Big XII Football, average difference of game: 13 points, avg margin of victory: 18.5 points, avg margin of loss: 3.5 points), 12-9 vs Texas Basketball (9-7 since Big XII began). WE OWN TEXAS. Refer to youtube video: "Texas 81 Kansas State 85 OT, Really Guys?", and a legitimate Texas fan will tell you what he thinks about Kansas State
They weren't perfect. The elite teams in the 1998 season were, in order, Ohio State, Tennessee, Florida State, Kansas State, Wisconsin, UCLA, and then it gets cloudy. Any of these teams could have beaten an other on any given day, but in all honesty...who knows. Nick Saban pulled off some magic and Michigan State upset Ohio State. If Florida State didn't play Florida, they wouldn't have had the s.o.s. to get into the Fiesta bowl.
@kswildcats1 doesn't really look that way, does it? looks as if I was a little low on the prediction... BTW... some KSU fan on ESPN is predicting NU to win the championship after that shellacking . Ksumurphy76 "Forget the Jackrabbits - that was a PLOY - a diversion. And they beat us by 35 and Martinez DID NOT PLAY IN THE 4TH QTR. Trust me, they beat Alabama by 17. There are no weaknesses - too many weapons -- more speed than a meth lab (on offense and defense)." he's silly though.
@PVcat1 I'm through with this little fun time. What I wrote was NOT ignorant, it was a fact. I didn't imply nubbs didn't win games in PAST. All people care about in the corn state is Nebraska football. They don't care about Creighton, Kearney State, etc. I didn't mean it LITERALLY! This forum doesn't allow for enuciating every parse and parcel for potential understanding on the hearer's part.. It seems most ku and NU fans are bandwagon since they didn't ever attend U. Did U go to U?
Our greatest football victory was winning the Big XII Championship in 2003. Nebraska was not a part of that. Everyone knows Nebraska is not as good as Oklahoma. Look at the winning percentages, you're behind. Beating Nebraska was a hump to get over like conquering virginity. It will eventually happen. By my recollection KSU beat Nebraska in Lincoln 38-9 that year. This was a milestone though.
Boy do I remember this game. I remember the first KSU scoring drive was interrupted by some fucking presidential announcement. I remember the facemask. I also remember that had that guy not hit Frost, someone had blown coverage terribly and Davison was all by himself. However, what I remember most is .... fucking hell do I already miss football.
Snyder's last three years have been non winning seasons. I don't think that will be changing anytime soon. Well maybe he can start beating the UL Laf's of the world.
Who sucks? Who beat who this year? Who had over 70 points scored against this "awesome defense" everyone heard about? Who went scoreless for over 30 minutes? I'll let you answer each of those. Hint: there's only 1 of 2 answers.
@KCUSA27 Keep it classy KSU. Just try scoring a touchdown before you start thumping your chest to hard. It has not even been competitive for 4-5 years and the talent is not even close b/w our teams. I think we will be fine.
5:44... biggest no call ever
That Travis Ochs facemask non-call was probably the most blatant missed call I have ever seen in college football. I remember Bob Griese screaming "facemask!!" and the replays that showed the official reaching for the flag and not throwing it. Just another chapter in "college football lore" as they say. That we still talk about it 10 years later validates its' place.
As a KSU alum and fan, that was a missed call. We’ll never know if it would have changed the outcome of the game, but it is what it is.
That option at 3:10 was a thing of beauty. Set up to get wide on purpose and Bishop needed to be super patient ... and he was.
most epic football game i have ever attended
Michael Bishop was Vince Young before Vince Young
the song is the main song from the movie requiem for a dream. the music in the movie is simply amazing. great job on the movie, it gave me chills.
2 great college qbs who didn't do squat on the NFL.
True
@gmjmac25 Not just a BCS bowl--but the national championship game itself!
@kswildcats1
Agreed. It is about Thursday. But K-Staters seem incessantly bring their record vs Texas into the mix, or their 'more recent' Big 12 Championship. Congrats. On those things. Nebraska has a great tradition that has faltered somewhat in the last decade. If Nebraska doesn't win on Thursday I'll eat my words and say good game.
25 years ago today
I was there, this video is a great reminder of what a hard grind that game was, for the players as well as us in section 15. Thanks.
i think the intro to this video is what makes this video one of the best of k-state youtube video's!
Probably the greatest day in the history of Kansas State football.
This game seems like a long time ago. And if you're a Purple Cat fan, I'll just bet this game seems like a LONG, LONG, LONG time ago.
@f15054l
Not going to lie, the team that finished with the most upswing after last season (aside from the Crimson Tide who'll be returning many starters from their national title team) is the Nebraska Cornhuskers. Bo Pellini's gotten that team and the Big Red faithful to believe.
This is my favorite video on this damn platform
Bill Snyder is a Genius.
I don't remember saying that we would have won the game. I'm saying that the opportunity to try and win the game was taken away by a bad ref. I've heard that guy has never reffed another college game...which is appropriate, given one of the worst missed calls in the history of college football.
This was a memorable day in college football for three reasons.
One was the tackle at 5:44 - often dubbed the worst no-call in history. Hard to see with the low resolution but it was a facemask grab where Crouch's helmet literally was twisted 180º around as he was pulled to the ground backwards by only the facemask.
Two was at 6:09 where KSU, up 34-30, scored to go up 40-30. Notice that's the final score. Why no extra point? Bill Snyder correctly realized Nebraska might get one lucky score, but couldn't possibly score twice in 4 seconds, so all he needed to do was have a 2-score lead. The *only* way he would fail to have a 2-score lead is if NU got a defensive 2-point conversion off a blocked kick or bad snap or something. So he kneeled the ball on the conversion to have a 100% chance instead of a 99.99% chance to win. The line was KSU by 10.5, so his decision swung the cover/no-cover in one of the most crazy betting moments in sports history.
Three was that, at almost the exact same time that KSU scored that fumble return TD to go up 40-30, a more well-known fumble happened elsewhere - Clint Stoener of Arkansas slipped after taking the snap and put his hand out to stop his fall - that hand held the ball, and he lost control. The "Stumble And Fumble" as it was called, allowed Tennessee to recover and win the game, putting the Vols in the National Title Game.
All three of those moments within 15 minutes or so of real time.
This is one of the best posts on TH-cam. Thanks for the reminder/lesson.
Huge waste of time you salty Nebraska fan we won stop crying
nice video, still one of the worst no calls of all time with the facemask, but what can ya do. the thursday night game this year should be a good one. Go Big Red!!!
@snakebandit Why don't you mention the 2 non fumbles by K-State in the game, Mr. Cornhole homer?
They're starting to shape up now...if anything at least we showed some resiliancy getting blown out then blowin out A&M.
KSU was so amped for this game that it took 1.5 quarters for them to settle and play to their potential. The yards were clearly in favor of the wildcats. They were a talented but streaky team, and Bishop was no genius. I was there. I was in St. Louis when they lost to A&M. It was the worst day of my life...and my father killed himself on my mother's birthday the year before.
back then it wasnt BILL SNYDER FAMILY STADIUM it was WAGNER FIELD, bill supposed to be getting a top 5 HB and a really good linebacker in 2011 football
Good game from both teams, when was the last time KSU beat Neb.? Not counting this year '98.??? Anyone?
Nice flying lariot ...too bad Ochs didnt go on to a wrestling career, he would've been one of the best
Awesome video. Chills.
@Schutzeman
Well, that's just like, you're opinon, man.
We all know about the ACC. Even after the A&M loss KSU was #3 in the BCS, and sent to the alamo bowl. Think of what that would do to the mindset of a 21-year old kid: You're a 3rd and 26 away from the NC and suddenly in one play you're in San Antonio against an unranked Purdue. I wouldn't be surprised if they threw the game for $. Drew Brees was the sophomore QB that beat us, so either way I'm not ashamed.
notice how this is in 98 and not present?
Hell, I'm a Husker fan and I think this video is fantastic. I may not like what the fuck it is depicting, but well done!
The facemask was blatent but if you look at the video Crouch would have been corraled for a loss even if Ochs had let him go. NU had a great first drive, Crouch threw a great ball to Davidson (that could not have been defended better), and NU had another good drive in the 4th. 21 earned points. KSU dominated the line of scrimmage, and the match after NU scored their first 14.
I was always amused at how Nebraska Cornholers hang a 10 point loss on a missed facemask penalty on a 4th and 8 play from their own 32.
Because of that one play, Nebraska claims they lost the game. One play.
Tell me you don't understand football without telling me you don't understand football..
I'll give you a hint....it was 34 to 30 at that point. The penalty if called gives an automatic first down and penalty yardage to Nebraska....with time to score...
Did I explain it well enough for you to understand?
The word you're looking for is Justice or Vengeance. Take your pick.
Eric Hickson started and Frank Murphy was 2nd string....
they tore down the post because that was the first time they beat big red in like 30 years or somthing like that
K-State will be back on top soon! The college football world doesnt know what coming! We will be back!!!!!! -ksu_34
We were a great team. Great. We led the nation in scoring offense, defense, and special teams. We could have beaten the '03 or '07 LSU tigers, and the '10 Auburn tigers. If we would have won it all we would have gotten into a BCS bowl with our 1999 10-1 squad (a better defense). If our aforementioned coaches wouldn't have been raided by Bob Stoops we certainly would have done more damage in the following years.
@tbehmer7 You've convinced me, I am now a Fuskers fan and I am applying for a Nebraska driver's license as we speak. I am smart enough to know who to root for in the State because there only one school and no pro sports teams. It may be a little boring living there but I will quickly become brainwashed and not know how to think anymore. I hear Bo's brother has good taste in boosters' wifes however.
@KCUSA27 If by miserable you mean 'we will make your sides ache from laughter at our slow secondary' you are probably right.
The only reason we wouldn't be safe in Manhattan is for fear of our tires getting slashed.
Good game anyway.
@usafutbol20
We tear down the goal posts whenever we damn well please. We don't need permission, we're a free state, by choice.
@ssiedlik I read you CONVENIENTLY omit the 2 non fumbles by 'Cats; 1, going into the end zone by Bishop and 2, the Murphy non fumble at midfield the refs allowed to keep the cornholes in the game. I wonder what your program would be like if you weren't the ONLY game in the State.
Keith Jackson nuff said
@Kkuncl10 correct that 95 Husker team was stacked!!! remember 4 Big 8 teams were in the top 10. ( KU, Ksu, CU, and NU) best season of Big 8 history.
1971 wasn't too bad for the Big 8. It had Nebraska #1, Oklahoma #2 and Colorado #3.
I think we brought back snyder to stabilize the program, kind of like bringing back osborne to help. Once we get back on the right track snyder will step down to someone that he feels like is ready for the job. Both programs needed their architects to fix the huge callahan/prince mistakes.
no, it was eric crouch.
Okay, let's be real: Kansas St was a better team than Nebraska in 1998. We (KSU) had an all around better coaching staff (Mike Stoops, Mark Mangino, Brent Venables), great players, and the home field. A fumble on NU's 1 (by Bishop, laying on his tackler-questionable but right), and another on NU's 40 (by Murphy, even more questionable but also probably correct, and returned for a touchdown), made the game closer than it should have been.
I think it was Rock Cartwright, but im not 100% sure.
sorry, i need to change a few things
QB = NU
RB = NU - I don't know if patton and johnson can beat out lucky and glenn
wr = MO PURIFY
wr = Nunn
OT = NU
C = there's a guy by the name of brett byford...a really underrated center
og = NU
TE = KSU despite 3 balanced TEs for NU
dline = edge KSU to start the year, but NU does reload at D-line
LB = NU
secondary = KSU, questions about Bowman and whether Jones and Murillo can step up
special teams = KSU
I see the Huskers winning in Lincoln
@dragonah2000 I am not a Nebraska fan like that I was stating a fact that another person ask why did they bring down the goal post like that. so just chill I like Neb, but I am not a diehard fan.
i feel sorry for the poor bastard who had to cover darnell mcdonald that game.
@tbehmer7 Sorry to disappoint(not really), the money is to be split evenly. Here and I thought we owed our live to the Nubbs!
I remember this game and I remember being horrified by what I was watching. However, who the fuck was #80?! Maybe I had my face in my hands too long to notice.
Why does this video stop at 3 seconds?
Agreed. The next play was worse though ... a Matt Davison (I think it was Davison) was wide, wide, wide open because the corner had simply fallen. One split second and Frost gets that ball off and he might have scored.
Ugh.
What I do remember the most was the opening drive being interrupted by the Prez to tell me some bombing went on in Israel. Like I give a fuck at this moment. Tell me during Dateline.
At least we've been relevant in the last 13 years, unlike Nebraska.
Define relevance. You've won a conference championship? That's cute. We didn't have to make a DVD out of it whenever we did that. KSU will never be a perrenial power. Go Big Red.
@chaz6018
It's the color of royalty, and KSU is one of only a handful of schools to use a single pigment as their designated school color. We're unique and you're afraid. It's a common fear of simpletons.
K-State manhandled NU in this game. Only Bishop's manic play and turnovers kept NU in the game. No one who saw the game doubted who was the far superior team. Best team in the nation before Hickson's injury and the epic collapse in the Big XII title game. Ah, well. Life goes on.
@TheGibby26 yeah and it was awesome.
@2110Darknight Its still Wagner Field. It was named KSU stadium back then.
Nonetheless, we weren't ready for a NC, like a physically mature young man not ready for an adult relationship. It wasn't in the cards. That's okay, we'll keep playing...at the table we began at, the Big 8. Whether it consists of Colorado, Nebraska, Missouri, Texas A&M, West Virginia, Tulsa, Arkansas State, or the University of Texas-Austin. It doesn't matter, because our spirit is true.
Are you still feeling this way about the Nebraska D? or did that go out the window with the whole Fire Cosgrove campaign? You may have good athletes, but you still have Calahan and Cosgrove coaching, and it's kind of hard to over come incompetent coaching.
@2110Darknight
Yep the Brown Brothers transferred back home.
that has to be the most bull sh*t play in sports when they didn't call a facemask on #50. I know he didn't intentionally do it so it wasn't a "dirty" play but the ref was right there and i hope he was fired after this game. it's amazing crouch was able to continue.
you said it 23smith23
Tainted the game? There was a non-fumble that the refs called when K-State had the ball on Nebraska's half yard line. Then there was a second non-fumble called by the refs that Nebraska returned for a touchdown. Both those were shown not to be fumbles upon replay. Thats 14 points for Nebraska, due to the refs. I think K-State got the raw end of the deal from the refs, yet we still found a way to win.
I wonder how many classes Bishop attended in his two years there. I wonder what degree he earned.
@mmcgwire
But would Davidson have been open on the next series if the facemask would have been called? We can all live in the past. What if Beasley's QB sneak against OU in 2000 would not have been blown dead? Maybe KSU wins that game, and momentum lifts them against TA&M, setting up a 1-loss total showdown w/ OU and KSU in 2000. Maybe OU still wins that game, and plays FSU in NC, leaving KSU to play Miami in Nawlins. Maybe split NC. Maybe you stay and fight? No...not like you...
I haven't seen a facemask like that since pop Warner!
Kstate cals Nebraska a rival? but yet they have a 18-74 record against Nebraska....LAme!!!!
Yeah,just like Caller-raw-dough...
You must be talking about back when nEbraska used to win games under oSborne. Then the cornholers became a juco team.
When was the last time you won conference title? When was the last time you truly were nationally relevant in football. It's been awhile last I checked. It's funny, Nebraska fans were the best fans in the nation right up until the point where everyone in the North was getting payback. It's easy to act a "champion" when your beating up on everyone else, not so easy when your getting your asskickings returned.
although if the huskers don't win by 3 scores i'll be surprised.
I wish you could post the whole game like someone did with the 2003 big 12 title game
The facemask was the only reason crouch even got tackled on that play. Biggest crock of shit Ive witnessed in a while.
I actually feel sorry for KSU. Their team goes down the drain so fans quit supporting them. Goes to show how true of fans Nebraska has. Even through the disasterous Callahan error, the fans never stopped supporting them. Shame on you KSU fans.
Yeah, Texas was going to drop the LHN. The PAC 12 didn't want the LHN. It worked out for both parties. This conference is still strong despite the predictions. If you haven't heard we're now allies of the SEC effectively putting the Big 12 in one of the top 4 conferences. At the end of the day, we are far better off without Nebraska. So really, it's not so big of a deal. We have more unity now that we've gotten the venom sucked out.
K-State... I'm sorry, I was wrong. Nebraska won by more than 21. Your own coach said you were slow. 6 straight to finish a lopsided rivalry. Not a bad way to end it.
i am responding to powercat2012's comments about nebraska running up the score on kstate from previous games. that's why i used the term moron, couldn't help it. look at the comment a little bit down the page. sorry, youtube's comments are very disorganized. anyways, in 2003, kstate was throwing the ball deep late in the game with their starters with a lead. i think that is the reason that some people made a stink about it. but it's no big deal and they probably should've kept their mouths shut.
@PVcat1
7-5 v Texas in Fball All time (6-2 vs Texas in Big XII Football, average difference of game: 13 points, avg margin of victory: 18.5 points, avg margin of loss: 3.5 points), 12-9 vs Texas Basketball (9-7 since Big XII began). WE OWN TEXAS. Refer to youtube video: "Texas 81 Kansas State 85 OT, Really Guys?", and a legitimate Texas fan will tell you what he thinks about Kansas State
They weren't perfect. The elite teams in the 1998 season were, in order, Ohio State, Tennessee, Florida State, Kansas State, Wisconsin, UCLA, and then it gets cloudy. Any of these teams could have beaten an other on any given day, but in all honesty...who knows. Nick Saban pulled off some magic and Michigan State upset Ohio State. If Florida State didn't play Florida, they wouldn't have had the s.o.s. to get into the Fiesta bowl.
@kswildcats1
doesn't really look that way, does it?
looks as if I was a little low on the prediction...
BTW... some KSU fan on ESPN is predicting NU to win the championship after that shellacking .
Ksumurphy76 "Forget the Jackrabbits - that was a PLOY - a diversion. And they beat us by 35 and Martinez DID NOT PLAY IN THE 4TH QTR.
Trust me, they beat Alabama by 17. There are no weaknesses - too many weapons -- more speed than a meth lab (on offense and defense)."
he's silly though.
@PVcat1 I'm through with this little fun time. What I wrote was NOT ignorant, it was a fact. I didn't imply nubbs didn't win games in PAST. All people care about in the corn state is Nebraska football. They don't care about Creighton, Kearney State, etc. I didn't mean it LITERALLY! This forum doesn't allow for enuciating every parse and parcel for potential understanding on the hearer's part.. It seems most ku and NU fans are bandwagon since they didn't ever attend U. Did U go to U?
@tbehmer7 Please read this and then rewrite so somebody can understand it. I know its your Nebraska education kicking in.
Our greatest football victory was winning the Big XII Championship in 2003. Nebraska was not a part of that. Everyone knows Nebraska is not as good as Oklahoma. Look at the winning percentages, you're behind. Beating Nebraska was a hump to get over like conquering virginity. It will eventually happen. By my recollection KSU beat Nebraska in Lincoln 38-9 that year. This was a milestone though.
you should have to forefet all of the trophies you ever won in the big 6, 8,and 12 conference
1:33 release german suplex
Forgive me, Crouch.
Boy do I remember this game. I remember the first KSU scoring drive was interrupted by some fucking presidential announcement. I remember the facemask. I also remember that had that guy not hit Frost, someone had blown coverage terribly and Davison was all by himself.
However, what I remember most is .... fucking hell do I already miss football.
That second to last play was a crazy obvious face mask by K-State. The defender nearly took the QB's head off.
It wasnt Rock, he wasnt even there yet.
Michael bishop was the best dual threat quarterback I had ever seen then, yes husker fans I watched Tommie Frazier, and bishop was the best..bar none.
@bufu261
If you ain't cheatin', you ain't trying. You know that, this ain't football 101. Look at the SEC.
Wow, you sound mighty tough behind that computer there, Chachi!
bishop is no tommie frazier
14 people who watched this were Nebraska fans.
mastertaebo that face mask tho
Snyder's last three years have been non winning seasons. I don't think that will be changing anytime soon. Well maybe he can start beating the UL Laf's of the world.
I see, so the "rules" of youtube is you're only supposed to post if you like what the vid is about?
That music leaves a lot to be desired
Who sucks? Who beat who this year? Who had over 70 points scored against this "awesome defense" everyone heard about? Who went scoreless for over 30 minutes?
I'll let you answer each of those. Hint: there's only 1 of 2 answers.
@KCUSA27 Keep it classy KSU. Just try scoring a touchdown before you start thumping your chest to hard. It has not even been competitive for 4-5 years and the talent is not even close b/w our teams. I think we will be fine.