It's a shame but it's not an option for many people. I was so fortunate to have parents who supported me while I chased my musical dreams. I know there are people with far more potential than me, who will never have a chance to achieve it.
It's almost always an option. The question is if you are willing to endure some discomfort and insecurity for awhile. I've been homeless and hungry for extended periods of my life because I was not willing to put a harness around my neck. I survived doing what I like to do, and am good at. (Building and fixing things....) but I do it on MY terms.
Not a lot of people want to create and do things when they can barely survive working 40-60 hours plus a week. It's exhausting... energy, creativity and mental stamina are almost diminished. We should not be working this much for so little. So much talent is wasted that could be bringing us together and advancing society culturally and in other ways. What he says really hits home for me because being around creative people and doing creative things are exactly how i want to live my life but it's just not that easy...
itdies2dayyo I was working a lot for so little then I decided I'm going to give this art thing a go or just join the "real" work force (i.e. some shitty office job) so I started working just 2 days a week, and began making art and booking shows and within six months I was making almost twice as much as had been as a full-time barista/supervisor from my art alone. It was not a ton of money mind you, but a sustainable wage to pay my bills car and spending cash. And what came with it was a peace of mind like you couldn't believe like I would have never thought possible. Something akin to what born again people talk about when they receive god only it was because I started doing what I was supposed to do. Like a baptism of divine satisfaction It's scary to let go because it goes against everything society tells you to do, but once you do it's like entering a new part of the game it feels like cheating, you wonder why everyone doesn't do it, I should have done it years ago.
You are so, so right, itdies2dayyo. We grownups are (many of us anyway) a bunch of sleep deprived, on-edge exhausted people. I'm old enough to remember learning in school decades ago that in the 21st century, people would struggle to find something to do with themselves after finishing their 8 hour work weeks (!) Technology was supposed to free us . . . but now I realize I'm whining and self-pity is deeply unattractive. I've got to get back to work marking papers and I must try to ignore my guitars . . . (sniff, teardrop . . .)
I find the long yawning gaps in between being able to get things done really hard going - waiting for the magic moment when everyone’s schedule lines up just to be able to get in a room and rehearse - once! This is what stops art flourishing in the ‘day job’ world.
Eno, like Wilde, is speaking ideally. In fact, to try to be creative while working 40 hours+ a week is probably detrimental to health (and creativity), but in an ideal world... If mankind was freed from the chains of dull repetitive work.... How creative we might be? And what profusion of ideas, should we share our skills and creative time with each other. Sadly, present society inhibits such general proliferation. It's the idle rich or very fortunate who seem to be the artistic type...only because they have the time to indulge. We are all capable of creativity, given time and energy.
Dude, what?! Okay, so he basically promoted a socialist system, which you cheer for. But in what system was a concious society, individuals, individualism and individual's art (which is the ultimate expression of a conscious individual's creativity) more undermined, restricted and suppressed than in our today's society? Oh right, it was SOCIALISM!! (and National Socialism). You kids have no clue what you are talking about! All these test runs and studies of universal income in Skandinavia showed that it does NOT have the outcome the left wishes it would have. No matter how the media tried to twist this narrative in the past. These studies speak a different language. How can you all be so receptive to this blatant nonsense and not be able to critically think and apply historical knowledge to your thought process. Some pseudo-intellectual artist says something in front of some students and you go "wow" but you don't understand ANYTHING he said or in what cultural/historical relation that stands and how it is to be evaluated. It is sad, very sad!
@@MikaelLewisify How the hell can we stop working like slaves? If you have dependants, you are totally fucked and have nothing but working to try and support families. All hopes and dreams are ruined and not allowed for us plebs. So what are you saying? If you give up working and have no money to back you. Then you end up begging for a living and have a cardboard box to sleep in
Is working 8 hours so tiring for you? what about the weekends? I think you need to manage your time better or work harder, if it was true that you can't do anything after working for 8 hours monday to friday then there would be no people that get an education as an adult, or that start a business while having a job, or go to the gym, etc.
Neither one of you is creative apparently. When you waste your brain power hitting keys on a computer or answering phones you hardly have any creative energy left. Creative energy is limited. Plus you have no clue what the persons job is.
I'm a writer and recently became disabled but my mind is more creative than ever at first it was sad but now i finally have time to create what i always wanted to
I feel oddly compelled to say to everyone that reads this: Good luck to you all with your journeys and I hope you all achieve everything you hope to achieve in your lives. Have a wonderful adventure and I wish you all the best.
Spot on. Worked my arse off all my life looking forward to retiring at 60 so I could paint and write again only to be told I've now got to work till 66. Wish I'd made a creative career for myself in the first place instead of being brainwashed into feeling like a waste of space if I don't work till I drop.
@@thugtrippin It hasn't just been Republicans in power this whole time, the left has had plenty of time behind the leavers of power, you're being ignorant.
@@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers this critique falls pretty flat when the person with money and influence is directly advocating for a future with more prosperous and equitable opportunities for everyone, not just folks like him who managed to become extremely successful. We should be asking the condescending billionaires who tell us to “pull ourselves up by our bootstraps” why they don’t have perspectives more like Eno’s.
@@overnoble Yep, fair point. I'm just saying that there are many people who _can't_ spare any time for creative activity or reducing their hours, as they're stuck on a relentless treadmill of poverty. Given the competitive nature of the music industry, quitting their job or going part-time to pursue a musical career might doom them and their family to homelessness.
After working for 40 years in IT during which I would be writing/recording music when I got home from the 9 to 5, I took early retirement last year. Not a huge pension but I get by. From that perspective, I totally get what Brian Eno is saying. Now I pretty much work everyday on music. Not for financial gain, just because I love doing it. If other people like it too, well that's an added bonus. I've worked on some 'Remote' collaborations during lock down too which is a very rewarding thing to do.
I'm doing that right now, 5 years into my career. A part of me wants to leave it, at least until I can bang out this album and then let that sink or swim. Just to say I gave it a proper go more than anything. Another part of me thinks that even though the work is exhausting and full time, the regularity of it allows me plan more than the shift workers in the project. Practices, gigs, and everything else are all easiest for the nine-to-fivers because we know where we'll be for the next week, month, and decade
It took me a while to get there, but now I'm moving in the same direction. Going to spend as long as I can without a job and working on creative endeavors like writing music and throwing diy shows. Such an inspirational speech.
Best creative periods of my life were when I didn't have a job. But I have two jobs now and I'm still pretty creative. I think the difficult thing when you are young is you don't know how to manage your energy. Jobs are vampires, it takes time to learn how to preserve a bit of blood for your own use.
"no job" translates into more time for introspection, which means knowing ourselves better and therefore being better people, creating a better society, more empathetic and with solid moral values 🙂
@@TheDionysianFields Insight! Understanding is a great reward. Understanding yourself helps to avoid stupid conflicts and gives opportunities to make new choices. I've only worked halftime most of my life, and supported myself on that. I'm still poor, and maybe I should have worked more. Had I had any encouragement from family, instead of having to raise myself, maybe I'd have found a good place in the world for me. Still trying. We're sentient, not insects, so we really use try to use our minds more - lol.
I am 37 and l quit my old job after 15 years due to COVID polices . Now l am studying programming, l am living with my parents that supports me, thank God l have no wife or children to take care of and I can concentrate into studying. Though, it's not easy, I completely isolated myself, as nowadays anywhere you go or anything you do, money is pretty much on the first line of the things to go. Wish me luck, as l do the same to all of you!
@@italiad1013 l can't say it's outdated or not, but l sure don't feel like bringing to life a newborn in this world! I say those having kids in a place like this must be mad, and l mean no offense.
The best advice for any artist is to have rich parents. Trust fund is the secret to any great artist, imagine just traveling the world and being cool on Instagram and never have to worry about paying rent or car payments?
@@THDYoung Thats bullshit, his parents were sending him money, how else would he afford wine and prostitutes? real poor people are long forgotten. You know how materialistic women are, they would not give him a minute if he didnt have money.
Brian, you are so right. We need to move away from a greed-based, money-driven, market society and cultivate a society that embraces the artistic creativity of the individual. Oh what a society that would be!!! My parents say that I was drawing from the time I could hold a pencil. I began playing the guitar at the age of 8. My first beginnings in oil painting was in the 6th grade. My first book was written in 8th grade. But I had no direction. At every turn, my artistic interests were thwarted. And so, upon graduating high school, I entered the 9 to 5, 40 hour a week, work force. And in a blink of an eye, the years were gone. I'm 53 now and hoping to make up for lost time. But most of my life is gone. Clearly there are more days behind me than in front of me. Oh, too bad more parents can't be like you.
Brain Eno ,I have lived my life by the principles you have just endorsed and recommended ....thanks! i may not have achieved my personal goals ( of writing a truly great song ) but i have written 100 songs and at leat 10 of them are commercial enough to have been successful ,yes i am a failure in my children's eyes and my X wife's too .but i made the ART,and thats all i need. your words have validated my course in life ...THANK YOU
It's nice to hear a person still giving radical advice like this for artists. And he's so damn right. Yeah it's an obstacle, but your best art comes from being a full-time artist. Worth trying at some point~
Or aiming for a job to pay for basic needs & enough free time/energy to pursue your passions. If successful, perhaps replace that job with income from your art.
Artie VanDelayo Yeah, this is maybe where there was a bit of ambiguity? I could actually relate more to what he was saying, if the idea is that more artists should start to consider whether they want their art to be based on a "job" vs. their free time. I got the sense that he's not opposed to the idea of getting some job that covers the basics, but that still leaves one with ample time to do their art. Perhaps not? Perhaps he meant "job" as in anything that's unrelated to the arts? I, personally, always thought that art as a profession was a bit of an oxymoron, lol.
I committed to working just enough to finance a period of creativity then go back and go again...all the while I hustle, make a little here and there....this led me into many jobs, some good, some bad, some well paid, some paid poorly...I met more people, increased the variety in my skill set....I never 'networked' just worked hard and did right by people...I am guided by intuition and a certain trust that even if things turn to shit, my experiences thus far will see me through...there have been some hairy times and a fair bit of stress but there's equally that in more linear life paths...I get to make music, carve, write, paint, think, build....it nourishes me and keeps me vital...a 9-5 career would've crushed me and I recognised this early in my life... When I die I will have few regrets, even if my creations are destined to be in the hole with me....I got to do it and to live an interesting life...I am grateful for that
@Brian Eno Hello Brian...I am quite cooked after 3 weeks of repairing an old stone building in Melbourne. The next two weeks are mine to do as I please with. This includes writing chapter two of the book in progress and further sonic excursions with my Deluge, a very powerful and nifty machine I'm sure you're aware of. Thanks for the music btw, if this is really you? If no, have a fine evening either way...
Since leaving art school i've been working in retail and its been the most soul destroying thing ever. I come from a very working class background. Hopefully one day this can inform some great art but I guess we will see. He is totally right. Governements dont seem to like artists much though.
governments only like people they can earn money off of, ie taxpayers, the very idea that people could feel happier not working for the man is a government's worst nightmare ...
Good luck out there! Try to apply to some fellowships. The US sucks when it comes to supporting artists. You may wanna try to get citizenship abroad if you can sometime in the future. Europe supports their artists.
In a market-driven society, such as the one most of us have to endure these days, “art” have become a very ambiguous and exploited term. This type of society doesn’t understand the natural need for artistic expression. Only if something that our artistic expression produce that can be sold and turned into monetary value can art be of value to someone cherishing current market slavery. It has come to a point now that artists are being called “entrepreneurs” by politicians and political commentators. This is an attempt by the ruling class to neutralize the rebellious nature of the artistic heart. They know that at the heart of creativity lies freedom and non-conformity, and they hate that attitude! Their view is that only if you are unique and ambitious enough, as an artist, you’re worthy of a small compensation and allowed to live a life outside the norms of workplace slavery. The system is set up such that only a handful of people are allowed to live a life as artists in this way. A few are picked out and put on pedestals as examples to show the world what a free-thinking and liberal society we have. But if we examine what these so-called artists are producing we find nothing rebellious or uplifting about what they do anymore. Once they have been chosen by the establishment they tend to only produce stuff that glorifies the ruling orders of society. The tragedy is that every human being is born with the innate drive for creativity. It is an universal part of being a conscious being. This potential we all have is being harnessed and “harvested” by society for many destructive purposes. Very early on in life our parents and teachers begin their systematic indoctrinating campaigns against the natural drives in the minds of the small children. Accepted traditions, religion, schooling systems and culture will all be instruments in the campaigns against the free spirit within the minds of our children. By the time we’re around 18-20 years old we should be sufficiently transformed into the type of robot that society wants you to be for the rest of your life. Bear this in mind next time you hear anyone propagating the freedoms of todays market economy. It only looks like a free society from the standpoint of a completed process of brainwashing. Many of us comfort ourselves with the idea that at least we have managed to create a family and reared a few children into this world. -At least we have managed to put food on the table for a few people during our lifetime. If this is your attitude, remember this; -who is really benefiting from your efforts to bring children to this world? If your efforts have been to bring as much benefit to your children, in accordance with their own inner drives and interests, then I applaud you! But if our efforts have just been to bring more slaves to the slaveowners to work their fields of useless activity until they grow old and die, what good will that have produced? Religion, the political establishment and the cooperate world all want just one thing from you; -full and complete surrender to a system that dictates why you have a life and what it is for. Your own inner drives must be abolished and eradicated. These institutions have set up a full spectrum of views and regulations that dictates what’s acceptable, and what’s not. Choosing a life as a free-spirited artist is to say NO to a life dictated by any authority. Choosing a life as an artist is to say YES to your own divine nature and a life as an free-spirited yogi. If there’s only one thing that we should never forget to do in our lives; -we should wake up every morning promising ourselves to honor our own divine right to be our own unique version of consciousness. Never let anyone else dictate the choices you make in life. As long as your choices do not harm others you’re free to express your own uniqueness any way you like! Never listen to anyone telling you that the only way to contribute to the welfare of others is to conform and participate in the money-game and market-oriented slavery that is ruling the planet at the moment.
"Try to live yourself in a position where you do the things you want to do with your time and where you take maximum advantage of your possibilities whatever they are"
First time I've watched this and, coincidentally, I'm doing exactly what he suggests. It's not easy... and it's not an unqualified success by any stretch... but it beats being the wage slave that I was.
Good for you. I did the same when I was younger. I would play in bands and be lucky to get enough for the petrol home. Being an artist of any kind is a full time occupation. We get ideas at all hours.
My take is this: I managed to do music full time, and basically never had a job. But the first 5 years were brutal. I had no money for pretty much the whole time. The two worst times were when 1) my electricity got cut one day and I had to go do random music side jobs in a Dunkin’ Donuts (lol) till I could afford to pay the bill. 2) The worst time was when for 5 months I lived in my recording studio that was next to a highway, in winter, alone, with no kitchen or bathroom. Was a tiny box of a studio. I really think I lost my mind there. I don’t think anyone should have to go through that. The music I made there got me signed, and I’m doing pretty well now, but most of me is reticent to tell people to just wing it, cause when it goes wrong it’s really rough. What Brian is saying is very idealistic, and honestly if that was possible and we could just all live off basic income and make music that would be great. But it seems like a fantasy at the moment. The issue is the other bad alternative (soul destroying jobs) is arguably just as bad so I think the key is you need to have rich parents lol. Or get lucky enough to have a job you love and do music on the side, or maybe have more talent than me and succeed in music way faster. Idk what the answer is but yea this stuff ain’t easy
I lived in my studio for a bit--had electric pots and kettles for my "kitchen," went to the YMCA to shower. It's not so bad. If you're not willing to sacrifice for what you want, what you want becomes the sacrifice. I'm glad you're doing well now. I think the start is tough for everyone, unless they were born rich.
@@educatorsincommon5355 hahah youre taking me back mate, I had an electric rice cooker where i cooked all my meals. You can do some crazy shit with a rice cooker. I was cooking entire fuckin chili con carnes in that shit 😂 didnt want to risk the electric stove lol
@@jcar93music No prob mate. After nearly a decade of making music, and 5 years full time, I now make enough to live decently enough. I make a living off of dj'ing, my music (royalties+pub), teaching music production and the occasional mix+master. I live in new york which is crazy expensive but i get by (just about). That being said my dj fee keeps climbing, so hopefully will be able to do that full time soon ! As for factors that helped me get there, 1) producing music constantly and pushing myself v hard 2) networking and connecting with people
@@Kamino I appreciate that insight man. Any advice for an artist wanting to move to the city with no money? Would you recommend it? Do you think it's important to be in a city, or do you think with hard work, you can make it from anywhere? I really wanna be in the city, it's just so expensive. I'm also curious if you feel like you still have autonomy as a musician who relies on that income to get by. Do you find yourself having to do jobs you aren't crazy about a lot? Are your gigs creatively satisfying for you or is it more about the money than anything else? I hope these questions aren't too probing...these are just things I grapple with and ponder as a musician, who wants to work, but doesn't want to feel boxed into doing something I don't really enjoy just to be a working musician. Maybe that's just me being naive? I certainly hope not
What Eno envisions as an ideal was basically the way societies were headed in the post WWII years (see "the Affluent Society," JK Galbraith, etc.). This was before the ideals of a rational, egalitarian (e.g. "middle-class) world were hi-jacked by the rich, anxious for revenge at the loss of the power and prestige they had enjoyed before the Great Depression. The Oligarchs are back, more powerful and psychotic than ever, and their madness is projected as the ideal state of human existence. Hence, we have a society where competition, struggle and acquisition are venerated, and the working oneself to death becomes the necessary, even desirable fate for members of the underclass. Eno is right-on here.
@@trydowave change is the escape. Only change disrupts ossified order. The war was such a change. In democracy no part should rule more than 1 or maximum 2 terms. If they do they become more and more authoritarian in their pursuit of staying in power longer. The same for corpos and the wealthy. Only disruption, or innovation can change things for the better. Old order suits the old brigade, and the old brigade does not want to fight another war, they want stability coz the are at the top ... Change, innovation and disruption are the tools we need.
It's almost impossible to never get a job for 98% of the people out there. However, you can over time learn to live a very simple life, a frugal life, and only work part-time. Your family and friends will be something you cherish, and draw inspiration from. If you are young you'll better understand this as you get older. Your time, as well as your mental fuel to work on what you want, is far, far more valuable than any paycheck from any job. And far more valuable than anything could could buy with a large income. I now live in a very small house. I don't have a TV. I don't have high speed internet. My furniture is very spartan. My old phone is my connection to the net, at $25 a month. I watch videos at 480p. I spend time outside hiking and riding my bike (free), and with friends and family. That's good enough. My life is not complicated at all. But I have more of my time. What time is left. A simple life is all one needs to aspire to in order to attain happiness.
@@danielbooth5035 I bought my house in a working poor income neighborhood 17 years ago. It was fairly expensive at the time (for me), and I did have to work full time. But over 10 years later I gave up my "career" and life in the rat race. I now work part-time, and make a small amount of side income. You would consider me to be working poor.
I love Brian eno. To be honest I haven’t listened to anything he’s made except the start up sound or windows 95 but just that is enough because I love that sound so much. When I hear it it touches a deep part of me
I'm working a .2 position as an art teacher, teaching one class a day at a public middle school. To compensate for this, I work as a Teacher's Assistant at the same school. I am highly over-qualified for this position and could be making double what I do now with a full-time position in a higher paying district. But honestly, what I do now is so enjoyable, and the freedom that I have after work every day is priceless. Please, don't fall into the vortex of chasing money. It doesn't last, it doesn't satisfy, it only makes your life more of a struggle. Enjoy this life! It's yours to enjoy.
Everyone is born equal. Our minds are equal socially always. No one decides value in others. We decide value in ourselves. The only human beings that have less value socially are those that are violent and/or aristocratic. We are not here to judge or to pick fights, but to love, share honesty, cooperate, and contribute. If an individual sees things differently, they are jealous and won’t admit it. What we do (showing off to impress others) and what our personalities are (the level of honesty we share) must be separate ideas, not one and the same. Human beings need to make a distinction between those two and keep it there always. There is no room for classism in an evolved society. It leads to mental illness, homelessness, religion, and violence. Focus on telepathy. Evolve the planet with empathy and compassion.
Life’s to short.. surround yourself with people with a great attitude and be kind & happy life’s too short not to.. so enjoy your time here on earth while you can 💜
True. Born with nothing. We make choices of our lives. Some people may leave school with no qualifications and still became successful. Some people who go to university, may end up being unemployed for years, or end up forming bands = Queen.
I’ve never heard a take like this before… Such immense wisdom and brilliance! Unfortunately, especially in today’s world, someone in the family needs to be the horse and go to work or else you’ll find yourself living on the streets… Not fair at all but such is life!
I moved into a RV to bring my living expenses down, As housing in Denver Colorado is extremely expensive. It allowed me to quit one of my part time jobs (waiting tables (20 years)) and play music busking on the street instead .. I still work pt time nites at ups for about 1/2 my income and medical and dental insurance.. I get 6-7 hours sleep instead of the 4 1/2 I was getting and am way happier .
stringsnare it varies so much .. location / day / other performers (drummers/bucket players/trumpet players encroaching .. I hate noise pollution so hard to play some popular spots.. I use two 50 watt amps with a deep cell battery and pure sine inverter to power my amps, looper and effects.. I made very little with just an acoustic guitar.. so I never play acoustic busking I’ve made as little as $20 for 3 hours on a cool cloudy windy day on the walking mall but I’ve also made that much in parks practicing with no tip jar out .. Usually $85-$125 for 4 hours before covid ... Most was $250 in 4 hours during zombie crawl.. An old guy wrote me a check for $250 a few weeks ago while I was practicing in a park.. I made $130 last Saturday in another park . That was unexpected.. hasn’t been the norm lately .. but I also attract occasional park rangers enforcing the no speaker rule.. then I move the speakers into my rv 😂 it’s worked.. I’ve got a few noise complaints where the cops have shut me down in the parks .. not so much on the sidewalks around town .. but covid has changed things
When I was younger I was very inspired by bohemian artists like Van Gogh who lived for creativity. He pretty much made no money from his own art during his own lifetime..but his legacy 100 years later is that the value of his dedication is huge, both financially and culturally to the world..however, I saw a documentary about art in the Netherlands: the government from I think the 1950s funded for about 30 years a living wage to anyone who called themselves an artist. During that period huge amounts of art was created, and the program showed a vast building filled with millions of paintings filed away..most of which were completely valueless and uninteresting..the policy ended in the 1980’s..I personally believe in a living wage for everyone, it’s something that the Green Party in the U.K. advocate, and I read that even in the USA there are trials running in some cities that provide a basic income…it will probably be the future for humans in an A.I.productive world. The spiritual guru Osho said something like “too much in this world is created, produced, invented..there’s too much stuff..why strive? Simply celebrate being alive and enjoy yourself”
Yes! Invest your time and energy in your work and on how you can interact with your community... that's the real deal, the ultimate prize. Thank you BE!
Sadly there's a little catch in this - the interaction itself. Levels of commitment (and mutual expectations, I believe) between people. There is always a push and pull kind of situation with it.
Ian Abrahão it is said the happiest are the poorest...they don't worry about all the haves, and keeping up with things, protecting, etc. they work and live together and share all resources as need and because it is right action. some times with choice there is misery...
Great thoughts from Brian. Wanted to add some from myself, over the years I came to realise how I hate this belief that pursuing a "creative career" is only for "hippies" or those lacking ambition, while "real jobs" are IT, finance, or anything non-creative... I personally felt this more than I should have, especially being from Eastern Europe, where this mindset have really grown into generations (resonates with the quote by Brian - "creative geniuses draw inspiration from creative communities"). I'm sure people from western Europe or North America are way more open-minded about this, but sadly many other people I know grew up being taught that art and creativity is a waste of time, and in reality, 9-5 jobs offer security, but little fulfillment. Scary thing that usually it's not the people's fault individually, but rather how society tells you to do. Someone already mentioned here in the comments it's hard to make it in arts and that's completely true, but it's a gift we all have and all must try to pursue, if not for financial gain, then for your own personal fulfillment or to build your confidence, or for contributing to our culture, cause at the end of the day we are all equally responsible for our way of life.
I liked Eno's talk, i have also watched Alan Watt's video "What if money wasnt an object". So we are given the opportunity to create. The topic has many layers, not everybody is a creator or they can be but creation is not only about an artistic practice. We are all trying to survive in this economy, with life's pressures. The challenge is trying to do it, regardless of the obstacles. I know its hard but its worth it, it requires discipline, strength, talent, passion and more but the most important thing imo is that i know it sounds easy than done but the key element is that once you do it, it will provide an immense satisfaction and especially meaning to you life and thats probably what Eno's intention was.
A big part the money and success Eno got was due to not falling into the traditional path. Many others just like him chose the traditional path (whether due to obligation, parental/children pressures or simply "surviving" by targeting a job to access food and shelter) and they lived fine lives. He never says "don't get a job or you will live an awful life". He also doesn't say "if you don't get a job you will be successful". He simply says try not to get a job". He is simplifying because we're supposed to be able to elaborate on the concept. So yes, millionaire Eno is telling you how he became successful. He didn't get a job. He hustled, created, learned and stiff-armed tradition and traditional routes of work. You can not like it and scream BS and bring politics into it, none of that changes his perspective or the route he took in life.
While I understand Brian’s point ( I know very well that to be creative, you need time) I really would like to know who supported him while he was being creative? Who went to work and paid for his home, his food, his clothes, and all the other expenses of normal life? You cannot survive without money to live on. Who couldn’t be creative because they had to get a job to not only support themselves but support him too? I wish this video had explained that.
My day job has wasted most of my prime hours of music creation, I struggled and did my music before work, during work (creating during lunch and every break, sometimes in the back of my car), and all night, and all weekends, while raising a family too. I'm tired, so tired now ... but still try to work on my craft even while exhausted, not to mention doing the work of 20 different careers in diy fashion (composing, practice and recording - playing all instruments, mixing, mastering, graphic artistry, promotion, all social media, website design, photography and video shooting and editing, thousands of hours of just secretarial work, cleaning, setting up, computer work, countless more which also contribute to hundreds of songs being left undone) - being an artist is difficult, and now I wish I had more money and help.
Brian wants to de-emphasize the genius in scenius in order to build a teamius for making art that trims the fat to keep it leanius, otherwise you work the office suppressing the screamius waiting to go home and drink Jim Beanius if you know what I meanius.
@RED PILL PORTAL Sounds like you need to cool it on the Qanon shit, buddy. You can't be a global elite who's opposed to free market enterprise. The global elites are the winners of free market enterprise, and as an artist, Brian Eno is certainly not among them. Nor does communism have literally anything to do with any of this.
@RED PILL PORTAL i dont think he thinks that... he means that people should try and work as little as possible so you can spend the rest of your time doing something you want to do, believe me i hate comunists but this isnt communism its just trying to balance your life better
I've been a working full time drummer for a couple years now, I would have NEVER gotten to where I am now if I didn't quit my part time labor intensive jobs. Sure it's a quick way to make a buck but it takes away the most important thing we have: TIME. Time you could be spending perfecting your craft, making connections with other people, and pursuing your artistic career as a whole, as well as how to make money from your art. Part time jobs only get in the way of your success.
Could I ask you more about this? I'm contemplating doing this rn, and even am making enough money to survive on music alone, but am scared to quit my now high-paying 4-day a week day job, since ive had a taste of money now. I lose time, to get strong enough in my craft to be able to succeed in my scene. But I gain money to be able to better advertise what i do - which is increasingly not good enough because of the time stolen from it by my day job for that money.
@@sp123 No dependents. I don't need much to live on. Handed in my notice last Friday. It's done now, either way haha! Estimating I'll be able to make 40% of what I've been making for the moment, hopefully bringing it up to 60/65% in 3-4 months. Regardless, I made the best call I could. Something felt wrong about being in there, and I couldn't even pretend anymore. Couldn't dial it in. I work from home, and without a whip cracked on me, nothing was even making me work anymore. I was beginning to waste these people's time and resources, and it didn't seem right to do that anymore. Going to spend a lot of time on my local street, where street musicians, if they're good, can make a decent living. It will be tough - but this is the path I've taken, and better believe I'm going to give it my everything.
I loved how he points out that labelling someone a genius "singles out" an individual when really they were in the middle of an active, thriving cultural scene and a product of that.
Eno is talking about the creative process and art. He is saying we are all part of a zeitgeist, and while we're moving through this time, there will people who can articulate what is happening in their immediate environment. These articulations will mark a period in history. From this standpoint, Eno is FAR FROM pompous because he is saying that his artistic input is ONE OF MANY. It also includes other equally articulate musicians AND also includes writers, inventors, filmmakers, etc. - any creator in that same zeitgeist. In this sense, everyone collectively lays the fertile groundwork from which creativity springs from. This is why you really shouldn't think too much of your individual work. Eno is really displaying humility by acknowledging the role his environment had on his success, and that he was merely a small part of that. And this creatively nurturing environment is what he thinks is lacking. Your conclusion is a little black and white, and quite frankly, hierarchal, and very much based on commercial success which is the wrong way to interpret what Eno said. Further, the idea of meritocracy is arbitrary and an ideological construct. If you don't believe this, consider artists who never achieved commercial success but should have because they were hugely influencial and created seismic changes in their field - people like Little Richard, Chuck Berry and every blues artist that came before them. If the world really functioned on merit, the prejudices of the times wouldn't have been been a factor in how they were treated.
Yep it is like Schwarzenegger said: "I dont believe in the concept of the Selfmade Man. Everybody is where he is because he had help of others around him" (for example parents, teachers, farmers ect)
You missed the point, just because someone is raised in the same environment doesnt mean they will make all the same life decisions. (Another black and white Conclusion on your part) Where you conclude that just because they had the "exact same upbringing " they should have lived identical lives. Although there are individuals who will be seen as pioneers or figure heads to every artistic endeavor there is no denying the fact that these individuals need a start that is nurturing to their growth just as a seed only will sprout with a sufficient water source. It only makes sense that many of the greatest or most well known artists are those surrounded by many artistic folk during their upbringing. Many people will make bad decisions but if they are never allowed to exist in an environment where they have the option to be creatives then no one will ever know just the capacity to which they can be artistic which I think eno is really trying to get at, and Not not that we must crush and beat down on anyone who stands out as exceptionally talented. @maxwellboyne2770
@maxwellboyne2770 Well - Schwarzenegger's quote says it all. He was probably fortunate to meet the right people at the right time. Don't get me wrong - hard work is extremely important, but it's just part of the equation of success. If it were the primary reason, there would be a hell of a lot more billionaires.
@maxwellboyne2770 This video was about art and obviously you're not an artist so what are you doing here anyway? BTW, simple minds hurl insults when they have nothing interesting to say. Good day.
The good things are for the rich and their offspring to enjoy. The rest of us can only hope to survive. There has never been so little money in music for most practioners. Only the rich can afford it now.
Brian Eno is such an important part of art and society and how they influence each other. I love his perspective and insight, so so inspiring! Scenius, just brilliant.
I think there is a balance you can reach in life. I was in college and overly stressed and depressed. My mental health had gotten worse than almost ever. I left school and work as a bartender now on some days so I can make music and follow my passions at night. I dont make much money but I've been lucky enough to find a cheap apartment and lessen my bills some.
i quit highschool and took a 3 year beak, in those 3 years i learnt more things than all the time before that. i became a quite proficient software engineer and won hacking competitions. i think, funilly enough we may have a more productive society if people didn't have to work and just did what they wanted to with no pressure to do so. if instead of making project with the goal of making money we made things with the goal of making something good regardless if it makes money or not. i had to work this last year, and i never felt so stuck in my life, the time sink that it was prevented me to work on my projects in a satisfying pace. well i'm unemployed right now and honestly i'm just trying to launch my own company now so that i can work on things i actually care about instead of meaningless hour crunching.
We should work 2 days per week MAXIMUM. The rest of the week should be spent being creative in some way. 2 day weeks will eliminate unemployment. A basic income in line with the cost of living should be a given for everyone. No debate at all. It’s time to take back our lives from corporate greed.
Brian Eno my man! Sometimes, it is such a pleasure to have your own opinions confirmed by the people you respect the most on matters that are completely different from the ones you know them by. I have personally had in my life periods of time with plenty of freedom and time to spend on my own things, as well as periods where the necessity of labor catches up and requires full attention. The difference is staggering... now I'm not exactly an audiophile, but let's say that I'm quite serious about music. At some point, work was eating so much of me that I couldn't even appreciate music anymore, you're just too tired and your mind is full of shit, of things you have to do the next days or things that have already happened but which leave a strong print... Appreciation of the arts need one's mind to be pure in a way, it's got to be empty, focused, clear. You just don't listen to music the same way when the best conditions are not met, and the difference is HUGE. It's like there are levels of depths in terms of perception. A lot of people won't like what I'm saying but that's the truth... If perception can come in such different levels depending on the circumstances, I can't even begin to fathom how much they influence creation.
I would like to out myself as someone who idealised this way of thinking because I didn't want to face people. I made music, and toyed with making gaming content too, but I could never shake the fact that I didn't connect to a crowd I sung to, and was in fact afraid of them. Maybe that lifestyle works for someone is lucky enough to have a lot to say (fuel for their art) and can make connections easily, but for me it was lonely, and, given that the only thing I did was make art and stay at home, I felt after time that it was existentially weird for me to expect people to relate to art that came from such a sheltered place. I will still probably make art as time goes by, but now I will have to get a job and face my anxiety and ineptitude. Had I been a more healthy and well rounded individual, maybe thongs would have been brighter.
Going through that right now. After all there isn't much to be said and most of the "problems" people sing about aren't really problems at all, so why bother writing songs about those things lol.
You have to network with other artists bro. Like the video says, great art is made in communities. You may meet another artists to bounce ideas off of and get better at art
Easy to say Mr Eno but most folk don't have that luxury. having said that, I ditched my full time job 14 years ago to work from home creating sounds and images to sell online. A good compromise for me with less money, but enough to live off, and more importantly, time to work on my own creative projects.
I’ve spent years fostering a healthier relationship with my family and it’s been a lot of work. But the whole time I’ve been allowed to live with them and essentially remain financially dependent on them but I feel no shame because I spend time creating things I love and spending time with people I love. Career and money mean nothing if you don’t have the reasons to pursue them.
I used to think that a guaranteed "basic income" would be great for society, but now I'm highly skeptical of it. Disregarding the very serious issue that basic income would have to be issued by an authority (your government) and that now you have essentially a captive population that only survives by the grace of their government (what the govt giveth the govt can also taketh away), an even bigger issue is that I now believe that genuine happiness can only come from having a deep sense of integration and purpose within society--and for most people, that means having a JOB. Even when we hate our jobs, we often take for granted how important a job is to experiencing genuine happiness. It's very easy to take for granted the economic algebra of need that pushes everyone to find a way to contribute and integrate with society. Remove that and the result may not be the utopia one might imagine. Furthermore, we experience life through contraries. Without experiencing the ying we can't comprehend the yang. Even for artists trying to break out from the system, the daily grind creates a ying that is the perfect counterpoint to the yang that artists chase after. Here you have this cage, and there you have freedom. How can we truly know and appreciate freedom without having also experienced the cage?
While true for men, most women have the option of having children which brings the same or even more genuine happiness and purpose, but when your society is against having children then that's a problem. You could also argue that raising children is a Job and a rewarding one at that.
i dont think you understand UBI Even when we hate our jobs, we often take for granted how important a job is to experiencing genuine happiness. - utter nonsense. Many people in jobs are suffering yet because of money are not free to pursue another more rewarding job
you have a lack of understanding of how basic income works. it does not cover every expense, it does not lift you out from poverty. It enables you to escape poverty by being able to afford tuition, by being able to buy food to live, instead of starving for the night because all your money went to rent. Just look at how people spent their covid money. 50 percent of people that received covid money in canada used it on education. Please actually do some research.
I’m always impressed by successful and affluent people who give trite and slightly offensive life advice like this. Because Brian Eno didn’t come from a middle class art school background at all, so he knows all about it.
Love the first part about "scenius". Highly underrated and precisely one of the reasons I stopped pursuing a career in arts. I love producing art, but the people you need to hang out with are unfortunately mostly just insufferable self-absorbed spoiled children. I have a job now and work with the most wonderful, reflecting people whilst doing amazingly fun projects. So the demonization of jobs for the benefit of some poorly-defined ideal of "community-based art jobs" is shallow to say the least. The best decision I've ever made in my life - which was also the most scary one - was to "abandon" my dream of making music professionally. I have never been happier and haven't looked back since.
An interesting spin on this topic. And I agree, artists can be insufferable egotists. But so can anyone in any profession--ESPECIALLY if it's a profession.
Frankly this is true. I was jobless for too long but God wanted to develop my talents which I have a lot. I sing play the piano and paint. I’m very artistic but then I question. God I need money too but it’s true if you wander off you never pay attention to all these creative ideas.
As I share this thoughts (and I'm super glad you shared / I found this video) I feel super relieved, for my feeling of guilt going away, whenever someone told me I am talented or sum... It was never ONLY ME, it was the internet, the time and space given to chill and practice, etc... weight has been lifted from my shoulders, and I'm better able to recognize properly other artists, knowing that they represent a context, set of conditions, HUGE history behind their ancestors and so on... dope, thanks.
Oscar Wilde suggested this very same idea in 'The Soul of Man under Socialism', that mankind's potential can be truly liberated if we free ourselves from the yoke of labour and soul destroying jobs. Oscar also suggested that Art, creative writing....and perhaps simply the process of 'thinking' (truly thinking) is a human beings ultimate goal. To think, and thus create, and to reflect upon what you, I, and all have created, and for such creations to further feed our minds, allowing the process of creativity and intellectual evolution grow.....and to free ourselves of the mundane process of utilitarian obligation.... how beautiful. Add to that the possibility that humans are on the brink of embarking upon an automated society via self-conscious computers and sophisticated robotics.... perhaps a century from now many many people may be given the gift of true freedom to think and create and grow as never before. Freedom however, in my experience, comes with the responsibility to learn and value how best to use your precious time.
Óscar A. Montiel Most compilations of Wilde's works will contain this essay. Another of my Wilde favourites that inspires me greatly is 'The Critic as Artist', in which Wilde proposes that in critiquing an artistic work, one may create something even greater via such analysis. Wilde & Eno, good company.
Have fun joining the over 200 MILLION people socialists killed in the last 100 years. So fucking stupid. You'll be dying in droves just as soon as they can get full control - same way they have been, ever since they started marching. Lazy, ignorant fools...enjoy the hurt, because you don't want to EARN your own money....just give your power away to politicians. You'll see.
i'm not quite sure why the right continues to push this long debunked point. there was never any concept of worker self-ownership, not in russia and certainly not in china. this continued perpetuation of what is really just ignorance isn't even perplexing, it's just annoying - nobody believes this, and no amount of repetition is going to make it believable.
The clothes on his back, the microphone he's speaking into, the transport that brought him there all exist due to jobs. He's living a privileged life thanks to other people's jobs!
Who doesn’t want to do art and not have to work a traditional job? We will always need folks to grow food, transport stuff, raise children, etc. I love art as much as much as the next person, but professional artists are far from essential. A better way to think about this is to instill the artistic/craftsman mentality in all citizens. Every job would benefit from this.
I think of all the time people put into constructive hobbies. things like gardening, crafts, programming, writing. this is work! I have stories that took me dozens of hours to write, edit, and polish. Not that these are worth selling, but I have gotten better, over the years. I like doing this work! I would do it more, if I had more free time. UBI could be a launchpad for artists, but also for slightly unprofitable craftsmen. never mind people who play esoteric musical instruments, what about the people who make those instruments? we could have more farmers specializing in heirloom crops, fabricworkers who can create custom clothes and alter outfits. More repair people! Nobody repairs electronics because the time it takes is not proportional to the money it makes. UBI can subsidize repair people, so we can quit throwing away our things, once they get a little crack or break. Imaging the legion of scientists, researchers, and historians this would unleash! people who can finally get paid to generate, curate, and pursue knowledge.
Quit my job cause I realized how soul sucking it was, and also realized how I could live without so many things I used to think I need. I am trying to give up material goods for something greater and go back to school. I am lucky cause I have the support of my family , if I was stubborn I’d try to work a job so I could be independent, but I know living on my own would isolate me from them, and then subsequently isolate me from everyone. I don’t know how much time my mother has left and I don’t want to be so busy working for shit I don’t need that I won’t be there for her before she’s gone. I don’t want to party or do things my family doesn’t approve of so bad that I am willing to risk the time I have left with them. I spent enough of my time working for someone else’s success, it’s time to work on building my own, and thriving in the wealth of time spent with loved ones. It’s scary and daunting, but my old life working as a wage slave is far worse, it took everything away from me.
My hero !! The amount of brilliant music this man gave to the world is staggering.. In the future he most likely will be held in te same regard as the famous classical composers.....
The way I think of 'money' today is like a 'token of gratitude,' meaning you're thanking and learning of those involved. I'm a financial mess, but each day, if you work on it, it becomes second-nature while your work becomes first-nature.
Though i agree with the idea here. That we should not have to earn money to maintain basic human functions(housing, healthcare,food). I feel like having a job or doing some sort of work that isnt direcfly related to the art you make will make you a better artist. Because it forces you into situations that might be uncomfortable or unaware. If art is subjective so is life and it feedsback on each other.
I can say all the thousands of hours I spent in a factory/warehouse I would have rather spent them on my guitar/DAW, def would have been better to make same money out of "art"
I've been creating self employed for decades and it's a roller coaster for sure I most admire the guys who pick up the trash in the back alley. What would we do without them?
Do not remove them, just give them a meaning, not: "i only do this job because i earn money,so i can support myself" but "I do this beacause I now the city is more clean and we will live better"
Rob Robi unfortunately, we’ve stopped recycling because it’s not financially viable. Getting rid if money as the sole metric of success must come first
I an so grateful that I work for myself in a creative profession for my living. I have grown to appreciate my lifestyle more and more as I continue to age. Nothing is more important than having the time and freedom to think.
Telling people to "Quit your job in order to do art" is an out of touch, rich person idea, completely disconnected from reality, he is advocating for taking money away from productive people to give it to unproductive people so dumbass unproductive artists can play guitar, which is an extremely dictatorial and violent position to have (and notice he doesn't redistribute his wealth for this cause he advocates for) The concept of "SCENIUS" is non-sense too, it's a communist idea made to detract from individual merit, which is something leftists hate, it's saying that people who are accomplished and that changed the world didn't actually did it, but that society did it, by this logic when a web developer makes a website he didn't make the website, society instead made the website, it's an insulting thing to say that no one with accomplishments and self awareness would admit too, by this logic when a Nobel prize winner in the United States changes society for the better with their discovery "society" as a whole did it, some dude playing video games all day and watching porn is just as important as that scientist, completely ridiculous collectivist non-sense made up to detract from individual merit. You think this is eloquent? you think these are good points? lol.
i always wanted to take a much more flexible/mobile, professional career (perhaps relating to nature/wildlife or technology) that i'm extremely interested or passionate over a standard non-professional jobs (ex. salesperson, food service workers, medical assistants, etc. ). i very much appreciate the enlightening advice from Maestro Eno 💯💚
I was in the fortunate position of having made an easy 60 grand and so I took 2 years off work: the first 3 months were AWESOME: the next 3 months not so good and after that the anxiety set in, worry, nerves, the worry about "what comes next?" Not doing anything constructive AND paid can kill you just the same as working 60-70 hours a week can. The middle ground is best: I don't mind working for somebody else's dream as long as they pay me well and the hours are not more than 35 a week, what the hell, if they treat me right II'll even make them a coffee and a sandwich.
That is what I battle for as a working class person and I am starting to make progress now in my 40s but also starting to be able to share that with others which I think is the key having struggled through myself I know helping others is the true way out for both the individual and the collective where as I have known many born with privilege who miss out because they do not want to risk giving up something but if you do not then you do not get the scene and that is the thing you really need
It's true. One of the most difficult ordeals in life is to be forced to do something you don't want to do. Such efforts lead nowhere and can even be disastrous.
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The reverb that you hear from his voice happened after his high amounts of ambient music exposure
lmao
scenius lmao
It's only natural
He is a singer after all
Lmao
A friend of mine used to work a three day week, when asked why he only works three days a week he replied " because I cant work two ".
and what is his living situation?
@@lethaldisq he;s still alive
Graham Wright hahah smartass
@@lethaldisq ha ha Sorry couldn't resist
how does he manage?
It's a shame but it's not an option for many people. I was so fortunate to have parents who supported me while I chased my musical dreams. I know there are people with far more potential than me, who will never have a chance to achieve it.
It's almost always an option. The question is if you are willing to endure some discomfort and insecurity for awhile. I've been homeless and hungry for extended periods of my life because I was not willing to put a harness around my neck. I survived doing what I like to do, and am good at. (Building and fixing things....) but I do it on MY terms.
And you are awful at music too. So sad.
@@theobserver9131 You are a real one! Keep following your dreams.
@@theobserver9131 aka punishment from the 'tribe.' Most people can't tolerate that. We have evolved to be this way.
You know I’ve wondered if we ever reached a Utopia, what would Artists actually have to draw inspiration from…
Not a lot of people want to create and do things when they can barely survive working 40-60 hours plus a week. It's exhausting... energy, creativity and mental stamina are almost diminished. We should not be working this much for so little. So much talent is wasted that could be bringing us together and advancing society culturally and in other ways.
What he says really hits home for me because being around creative people and doing creative things are exactly how i want to live my life but it's just not that easy...
itdies2dayyo I was working a lot for so little then I decided I'm going to give this art thing a go or just join the "real" work force (i.e. some shitty office job) so I started working just 2 days a week, and began making art and booking shows and within six months I was making almost twice as much as had been as a full-time barista/supervisor from my art alone. It was not a ton of money mind you, but a sustainable wage to pay my bills car and spending cash.
And what came with it was a peace of mind like you couldn't believe like I would have never thought possible. Something akin to what born again people talk about when they receive god only it was because I started doing what I was supposed to do. Like a baptism of divine satisfaction
It's scary to let go because it goes against everything society tells you to do, but once you do it's like entering a new part of the game it feels like cheating, you wonder why everyone doesn't do it, I should have done it years ago.
You are so, so right, itdies2dayyo. We grownups are (many of us anyway) a bunch of sleep deprived, on-edge exhausted people. I'm old enough to remember learning in school decades ago that in the 21st century, people would struggle to find something to do with themselves after finishing their 8 hour work weeks (!) Technology was supposed to free us . . . but now I realize I'm whining and self-pity is deeply unattractive. I've got to get back to work marking papers and I must try to ignore my guitars . . . (sniff, teardrop . . .)
I find the long yawning gaps in between being able to get things done really hard going - waiting for the magic moment when everyone’s schedule lines up just to be able to get in a room and rehearse - once! This is what stops art flourishing in the ‘day job’ world.
Eno, like Wilde, is speaking ideally. In fact, to try to be creative while working 40 hours+ a week is probably detrimental to health (and creativity), but in an ideal world... If mankind was freed from the chains of dull repetitive work.... How creative we might be? And what profusion of ideas, should we share our skills and creative time with each other. Sadly, present society inhibits such general proliferation. It's the idle rich or very fortunate who seem to be the artistic type...only because they have the time to indulge. We are all capable of creativity, given time and energy.
itdies2dayyo here here! Me too! Peace Christo 🎶🎶🎶👍🏻👍🏻👽👽🐕🐕✌🏻🙏🕺👏🏻🕺🛸🔦
"When I was young I was rich, and all my thoughts were of art and music. Now all my thoughts are of money" -Wally
Oof.
This goes hard.
Looked it up - it's from the movie "My Dinner with Andre"
@@SamAndrew27 I really need to watch that film.
LOVE My dinner with Andre!!
Such a good movie. I love when Andre starts going on about the new world order
this not only applies to artists or for creative individuals, it applies to everyone, this is the way to have a more conscious society
this paired with devotion will lead to great human beings
Did you know that food costs money
is common sense. Work for yourself. You cant blame anybody but yourself for your failures or achievements.
More like a lazy as shit society.
Dude, what?! Okay, so he basically promoted a socialist system, which you cheer for. But in what system was a concious society, individuals, individualism and individual's art (which is the ultimate expression of a conscious individual's creativity) more undermined, restricted and suppressed than in our today's society? Oh right, it was SOCIALISM!! (and National Socialism). You kids have no clue what you are talking about! All these test runs and studies of universal income in Skandinavia showed that it does NOT have the outcome the left wishes it would have. No matter how the media tried to twist this narrative in the past. These studies speak a different language. How can you all be so receptive to this blatant nonsense and not be able to critically think and apply historical knowledge to your thought process. Some pseudo-intellectual artist says something in front of some students and you go "wow" but you don't understand ANYTHING he said or in what cultural/historical relation that stands and how it is to be evaluated. It is sad, very sad!
I work 78 hours a week, i used to make music, have dreams, now i can only think of sleeping
Geezer noodles I hope you can change your situation noodles
So...stop doing that.
Sounds horrible
@@MikaelLewisify How the hell can we stop working like slaves? If you have dependants, you are totally fucked and have nothing but working to try and support families. All hopes and dreams are ruined and not allowed for us plebs. So what are you saying? If you give up working and have no money to back you. Then you end up begging for a living and have a cardboard box to sleep in
@@MikaelLewisify just get a better life 4head
Brian Eno is correct. When I get home from my job, I don't have much energy or time to be creative. And that is all.
I do, therefore he's incorrect (anecdotal evidence for the win).
Is working 8 hours so tiring for you? what about the weekends? I think you need to manage your time better or work harder, if it was true that you can't do anything after working for 8 hours monday to friday then there would be no people that get an education as an adult, or that start a business while having a job, or go to the gym, etc.
Neither one of you is creative apparently. When you waste your brain power hitting keys on a computer or answering phones you hardly have any creative energy left. Creative energy is limited. Plus you have no clue what the persons job is.
@@davedean2326 Thats literally an opinion dude, sorry your brain just doesnt have what it takes to stay creative lol but thats a you problem
@@382u3uuej all jobs are not created equal. Some jobs are super draining, some aren't.
I'm a writer and recently became disabled but my mind is more creative than ever at first it was sad but now i finally have time to create what i always wanted to
I feel oddly compelled to say to everyone that reads this: Good luck to you all with your journeys and I hope you all achieve everything you hope to achieve in your lives. Have a wonderful adventure and I wish you all the best.
backfootgrinder - Thanks dude, you too!
As it flows from you, it flows back
I needed so much your wishes. I wish you all the best from the bottom of my heart.
If there were more comments like this TH-cam would be a happier place
What a great fucking comment. Thanks pal, all the best to you too.
Spot on. Worked my arse off all my life looking forward to retiring at 60 so I could paint and write again only to be told I've now got to work till 66. Wish I'd made a creative career for myself in the first place instead of being brainwashed into feeling like a waste of space if I don't work till I drop.
Im sorry..
Read Prabhupada books asap mate. Good luck
i bet you still vote republican
@@thugtrippin It hasn't just been Republicans in power this whole time, the left has had plenty of time behind the leavers of power, you're being ignorant.
@@chronometer9931 If you consider Democrats "left" you haven't been paying attention.
Not only full of ideas, but empathy and humility. He is a great inspiration for many generations.
It's easy to say things like this when you have a net worth of 50 mil.
for real. utterly right!
@@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers this critique falls pretty flat when the person with money and influence is directly advocating for a future with more prosperous and equitable opportunities for everyone, not just folks like him who managed to become extremely successful. We should be asking the condescending billionaires who tell us to “pull ourselves up by our bootstraps” why they don’t have perspectives more like Eno’s.
@@overnoble Yep, fair point. I'm just saying that there are many people who _can't_ spare any time for creative activity or reducing their hours, as they're stuck on a relentless treadmill of poverty. Given the competitive nature of the music industry, quitting their job or going part-time to pursue a musical career might doom them and their family to homelessness.
@@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers That is why he's promoting universal basic income. To solve that problem.
"Here we are, stuck by this river...Failing to remember why we came."
-Brian Eno (also me, every time I clock-in to my cubicle)
Christ - you've just reminded me of a beautiful song. Off I go to listen to it. Thanks, mate!
@@tonybates7870 A certain song by Springsteen?
After working for 40 years in IT during which I would be writing/recording music when I got home from the 9 to 5, I took early retirement last year. Not a huge pension but I get by. From that perspective, I totally get what Brian Eno is saying. Now I pretty much work everyday on music. Not for financial gain, just because I love doing it. If other people like it too, well that's an added bonus. I've worked on some 'Remote' collaborations during lock down too which is a very rewarding thing to do.
I'm glad you get to do that now.
You have couple of decades leFt. Don't waste them.
@@aek12 Oh I can assure you I am not! 😁
I'm doing that right now, 5 years into my career. A part of me wants to leave it, at least until I can bang out this album and then let that sink or swim. Just to say I gave it a proper go more than anything. Another part of me thinks that even though the work is exhausting and full time, the regularity of it allows me plan more than the shift workers in the project. Practices, gigs, and everything else are all easiest for the nine-to-fivers because we know where we'll be for the next week, month, and decade
Cool. Now that you have time, maybe you can write childrens accompaniment music for drag queen story hour at your local library.
This applies to the arts, but also to so many other aspects of life as well. People aren't taught to seek a meaningful life, but a profitable one.
Me not paying the rent is way too ambient for my overlord, I mean landlord.
"this month's rent feels very minimalist to me. needs more bank notes"
you were right the first time
i dont think hes saying literally not to get a job , i think he is saying find out what you are good at and do that to make a living.
edinburghrw1982 - do that as much as you can no matter what that looks like so that your soul doesn't die.
only do a job if you enjoy it and gain satisfaction from it is my interpretation, and if it advances your creativity not hinders
I think what he's saying is that the expectation to give up your life for a job is a shame, and if possible, try your hardest not to.
get a passion which you make a career out of, not a job
That sounds suspiciously like a job...
Thanks Brian Eno, I’m feeling much better about being unemployed now!
me too!
@@thatbitch1111 me three!
@@91toinfinity secretly i never really felt bad about it tho 😂
Same 25yo and unemployed
It took me a while to get there, but now I'm moving in the same direction. Going to spend as long as I can without a job and working on creative endeavors like writing music and throwing diy shows. Such an inspirational speech.
Best creative periods of my life were when I didn't have a job.
But I have two jobs now and I'm still pretty creative.
I think the difficult thing when you are young is you don't know how to manage your energy. Jobs are vampires, it takes time to learn how to preserve a bit of blood for your own use.
"no job" translates into more time for introspection, which means knowing ourselves better and therefore being better people, creating a better society, more empathetic and with solid moral values 🙂
Better people, creating a better society, more empathetic and with solid moral values
That starve
Citation needed
and HOMELESS
But how many people will take the initiative to introspect? What's the incentive?
@@TheDionysianFields Insight! Understanding is a great reward. Understanding yourself helps to avoid stupid conflicts and gives opportunities to make new choices. I've only worked halftime most of my life, and supported myself on that. I'm still poor, and maybe I should have worked more. Had I had any encouragement from family, instead of having to raise myself, maybe I'd have found a good place in the world for me. Still trying. We're sentient, not insects, so we really use try to use our minds more - lol.
I am 37 and l quit my old job after 15 years due to COVID polices . Now l am studying programming, l am living with my parents that supports me, thank God l have no wife or children to take care of and I can concentrate into studying. Though, it's not easy, I completely isolated myself, as nowadays anywhere you go or anything you do, money is pretty much on the first line of the things to go. Wish me luck, as l do the same to all of you!
I’m with you buddy. Turned 36 living with the rents again and just trying to live a happier life. No wife and children either.
No wife no kids👍…no need for sure!!! Outdated thinking….also you come into this world alone and leave it the same so dont F it up in between👍
🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻Same. Getting certs and knowledge to apply towards IT.
good luck!
@@italiad1013 l can't say it's outdated or not, but l sure don't feel like bringing to life a newborn in this world! I say those having kids in a place like this must be mad, and l mean no offense.
The best advice for any artist is to have rich parents. Trust fund is the secret to any great artist, imagine just traveling the world and being cool on Instagram and never have to worry about paying rent or car payments?
i don't think Picasso's Dad was exactly rich btw
Picasso spent time being bloody hard up in Madrid & Paris as well
@@THDYoung Thats bullshit, his parents were sending him money, how else would he afford wine and prostitutes? real poor people are long forgotten. You know how materialistic women are, they would not give him a minute if he didnt have money.
@@THDYoung And that was without having to pay a Greedy Tory Poll or Council Tax for the Privilege!
Based. Or get picked up by CIA
100%
Brian, you are so right. We need to move away from a greed-based, money-driven, market society and cultivate a society that embraces the artistic creativity of the individual. Oh what a society that would be!!!
My parents say that I was drawing from the time I could hold a pencil. I began playing the guitar at the age of 8. My first beginnings in oil painting was in the 6th grade. My first book was written in 8th grade. But I had no direction. At every turn, my artistic interests were thwarted. And so, upon graduating high school, I entered the 9 to 5, 40 hour a week, work force. And in a blink of an eye, the years were gone. I'm 53 now and hoping to make up for lost time. But most of my life is gone. Clearly there are more days behind me than in front of me. Oh, too bad more parents can't be like you.
dead channel it's been a year, I hope you are a lil bit closer to where you should be, you still have a lot of years ahead of you....
Better late than never!
i agree dawg, we should move away from a money-based society & such- u want 2 cop me all ur money & property lol? ill take it off ur hands 4 u ;)
Art is an illusion. We need science, hard work and money. Greed is the greatest virtue, which drive us to work harder for money.
@@aek12 Greed is a vice
Brain Eno ,I have lived my life by the principles you have just endorsed and recommended ....thanks! i may not have achieved my personal goals ( of writing a truly great song ) but i have written 100 songs and at leat 10 of them are commercial enough to have been successful ,yes i am a failure in my children's eyes and my X wife's too .but i made the ART,and thats all i need. your words have validated my course in life ...THANK YOU
It's nice to hear a person still giving radical advice like this for artists. And he's so damn right. Yeah it's an obstacle, but your best art comes from being a full-time artist. Worth trying at some point~
rather a full-time liver, man
Ham Food best art comes from struggling with tribulations
Or aiming for a job to pay for basic needs & enough free time/energy to pursue your passions. If successful, perhaps replace that job with income from your art.
Artie VanDelayo Yeah, this is maybe where there was a bit of ambiguity? I could actually relate more to what he was saying, if the idea is that more artists should start to consider whether they want their art to be based on a "job" vs. their free time. I got the sense that he's not opposed to the idea of getting some job that covers the basics, but that still leaves one with ample time to do their art. Perhaps not? Perhaps he meant "job" as in anything that's unrelated to the arts? I, personally, always thought that art as a profession was a bit of an oxymoron, lol.
Cr8Tron Great point about oxymoron!
I committed to working just enough to finance a period of creativity then go back and go again...all the while I hustle, make a little here and there....this led me into many jobs, some good, some bad, some well paid, some paid poorly...I met more people, increased the variety in my skill set....I never 'networked' just worked hard and did right by people...I am guided by intuition and a certain trust that even if things turn to shit, my experiences thus far will see me through...there have been some hairy times and a fair bit of stress but there's equally that in more linear life paths...I get to make music, carve, write, paint, think, build....it nourishes me and keeps me vital...a 9-5 career would've crushed me and I recognised this early in my life...
When I die I will have few regrets, even if my creations are destined to be in the hole with me....I got to do it and to live an interesting life...I am grateful for that
@Brian Eno Hello Brian...I am quite cooked after 3 weeks of repairing an old stone building in Melbourne. The next two weeks are mine to do as I please with. This includes writing chapter two of the book in progress and further sonic excursions with my Deluge, a very powerful and nifty machine I'm sure you're aware of. Thanks for the music btw, if this is really you? If no, have a fine evening either way...
I do only seasonal job recently. Maybe is a way to have time for music but don't know if it's sustainable
@@PanosAnomioum It's getting harder and harder to do...I wish you all the best with it
I’m at that fork with my photography. Thank you for this.
@@Freddy_v Keep swingin' Ed...if you've got the light inside it's the only real choice
Since leaving art school i've been working in retail and its been the most soul destroying thing ever. I come from a very working class background. Hopefully one day this can inform some great art but I guess we will see. He is totally right. Governements dont seem to like artists much though.
governments only like people they can earn money off of, ie taxpayers, the very idea that people could feel happier not working for the man is a government's worst nightmare ...
In this world there's only slaves and their owners. We are the slaves and our only chance of freedom is death, which why I'm killing myself soon
People like Mr Eno would make wonderful patrons for budding artists. Most of the medieval artists had very rich patrons subsidizing them.
Good luck out there! Try to apply to some fellowships. The US sucks when it comes to supporting artists. You may wanna try to get citizenship abroad if you can sometime in the future. Europe supports their artists.
In a market-driven society, such as the one most of us have to endure these days, “art” have become a very ambiguous and exploited term. This type of society doesn’t understand the natural need for artistic expression. Only if something that our artistic expression produce that can be sold and turned into monetary value can art be of value to someone cherishing current market slavery. It has come to a point now that artists are being called “entrepreneurs” by politicians and political commentators. This is an attempt by the ruling class to neutralize the rebellious nature of the artistic heart. They know that at the heart of creativity lies freedom and non-conformity, and they hate that attitude! Their view is that only if you are unique and ambitious enough, as an artist, you’re worthy of a small compensation and allowed to live a life outside the norms of workplace slavery. The system is set up such that only a handful of people are allowed to live a life as artists in this way. A few are picked out and put on pedestals as examples to show the world what a free-thinking and liberal society we have. But if we examine what these so-called artists are producing we find nothing rebellious or uplifting about what they do anymore. Once they have been chosen by the establishment they tend to only produce stuff that glorifies the ruling orders of society.
The tragedy is that every human being is born with the innate drive for creativity. It is an universal part of being a conscious being. This potential we all have is being harnessed and “harvested” by society for many destructive purposes. Very early on in life our parents and teachers begin their systematic indoctrinating campaigns against the natural drives in the minds of the small children. Accepted traditions, religion, schooling systems and culture will all be instruments in the campaigns against the free spirit within the minds of our children. By the time we’re around 18-20 years old we should be sufficiently transformed into the type of robot that society wants you to be for the rest of your life. Bear this in mind next time you hear anyone propagating the freedoms of todays market economy. It only looks like a free society from the standpoint of a completed process of brainwashing.
Many of us comfort ourselves with the idea that at least we have managed to create a family and reared a few children into this world. -At least we have managed to put food on the table for a few people during our lifetime. If this is your attitude, remember this; -who is really benefiting from your efforts to bring children to this world? If your efforts have been to bring as much benefit to your children, in accordance with their own inner drives and interests, then I applaud you! But if our efforts have just been to bring more slaves to the slaveowners to work their fields of useless activity until they grow old and die, what good will that have produced? Religion, the political establishment and the cooperate world all want just one thing from you; -full and complete surrender to a system that dictates why you have a life and what it is for. Your own inner drives must be abolished and eradicated. These institutions have set up a full spectrum of views and regulations that dictates what’s acceptable, and what’s not. Choosing a life as a free-spirited artist is to say NO to a life dictated by any authority. Choosing a life as an artist is to say YES to your own divine nature and a life as an free-spirited yogi. If there’s only one thing that we should never forget to do in our lives; -we should wake up every morning promising ourselves to honor our own divine right to be our own unique version of consciousness. Never let anyone else dictate the choices you make in life. As long as your choices do not harm others you’re free to express your own uniqueness any way you like! Never listen to anyone telling you that the only way to contribute to the welfare of others is to conform and participate in the money-game and market-oriented slavery that is ruling the planet at the moment.
"Try to live yourself in a position where you do the things you want to do with your time and where you take maximum advantage of your possibilities whatever they are"
First time I've watched this and, coincidentally, I'm doing exactly what he suggests. It's not easy... and it's not an unqualified success by any stretch... but it beats being the wage slave that I was.
Good for you. I did the same when I was younger. I would play in bands and be lucky to get enough for the petrol home. Being an artist of any kind is a full time occupation. We get ideas at all hours.
How do you pay the bills? You living in your Mom's basement or do you panhandle? Nobody rides for free.
@@shitmandood Like I said, it's not an unqualified success and it's a battle to make film-making work financially. But that's what I'm trying to do.
My take is this: I managed to do music full time, and basically never had a job. But the first 5 years were brutal. I had no money for pretty much the whole time. The two worst times were when 1) my electricity got cut one day and I had to go do random music side jobs in a Dunkin’ Donuts (lol) till I could afford to pay the bill. 2) The worst time was when for 5 months I lived in my recording studio that was next to a highway, in winter, alone, with no kitchen or bathroom. Was a tiny box of a studio. I really think I lost my mind there. I don’t think anyone should have to go through that. The music I made there got me signed, and I’m doing pretty well now, but most of me is reticent to tell people to just wing it, cause when it goes wrong it’s really rough. What Brian is saying is very idealistic, and honestly if that was possible and we could just all live off basic income and make music that would be great. But it seems like a fantasy at the moment.
The issue is the other bad alternative (soul destroying jobs) is arguably just as bad so I think the key is you need to have rich parents lol. Or get lucky enough to have a job you love and do music on the side, or maybe have more talent than me and succeed in music way faster. Idk what the answer is but yea this stuff ain’t easy
This was good insight, thank you. What factors led you to finally break through? And what does “doing well” look like for you now?
I lived in my studio for a bit--had electric pots and kettles for my "kitchen," went to the YMCA to shower. It's not so bad. If you're not willing to sacrifice for what you want, what you want becomes the sacrifice. I'm glad you're doing well now. I think the start is tough for everyone, unless they were born rich.
@@educatorsincommon5355 hahah youre taking me back mate, I had an electric rice cooker where i cooked all my meals. You can do some crazy shit with a rice cooker. I was cooking entire fuckin chili con carnes in that shit 😂 didnt want to risk the electric stove lol
@@jcar93music No prob mate. After nearly a decade of making music, and 5 years full time, I now make enough to live decently enough. I make a living off of dj'ing, my music (royalties+pub), teaching music production and the occasional mix+master. I live in new york which is crazy expensive but i get by (just about). That being said my dj fee keeps climbing, so hopefully will be able to do that full time soon !
As for factors that helped me get there, 1) producing music constantly and pushing myself v hard 2) networking and connecting with people
@@Kamino I appreciate that insight man. Any advice for an artist wanting to move to the city with no money? Would you recommend it? Do you think it's important to be in a city, or do you think with hard work, you can make it from anywhere? I really wanna be in the city, it's just so expensive. I'm also curious if you feel like you still have autonomy as a musician who relies on that income to get by. Do you find yourself having to do jobs you aren't crazy about a lot? Are your gigs creatively satisfying for you or is it more about the money than anything else? I hope these questions aren't too probing...these are just things I grapple with and ponder as a musician, who wants to work, but doesn't want to feel boxed into doing something I don't really enjoy just to be a working musician. Maybe that's just me being naive? I certainly hope not
Spot on. As Chomsky, and probably others before him pointed out, wage labour is nothing but a form of modern slavery.
No it's not. Interest rates are slavery.
when you have to pay for half the population, yes you are a slave.
Ok so don't work. How are you going to pay rent or pay for your kids' college tuition, moron?
and Chomsky, BTW, is PAID by MIT. He isn't bumming around doing nothing.
Pat Robertson
You’re describing the problem, not refuting the argument.
What Eno envisions as an ideal was basically the way societies were headed in the post WWII years (see "the Affluent Society," JK Galbraith, etc.). This was before the ideals of a rational, egalitarian (e.g. "middle-class) world were hi-jacked by the rich, anxious for revenge at the loss of the power and prestige they had enjoyed before the Great Depression. The Oligarchs are back, more powerful and psychotic than ever, and their madness is projected as the ideal state of human existence. Hence, we have a society where competition, struggle and acquisition are venerated, and the working oneself to death becomes the necessary, even desirable fate for members of the underclass. Eno is right-on here.
How do we escape 😢
@@trydowave change is the escape. Only change disrupts ossified order. The war was such a change. In democracy no part should rule more than 1 or maximum 2 terms. If they do they become more and more authoritarian in their pursuit of staying in power longer. The same for corpos and the wealthy. Only disruption, or innovation can change things for the better. Old order suits the old brigade, and the old brigade does not want to fight another war, they want stability coz the are at the top ... Change, innovation and disruption are the tools we need.
@@trydowave national socialism.
It's almost impossible to never get a job for 98% of the people out there. However, you can over time learn to live a very simple life, a frugal life, and only work part-time. Your family and friends will be something you cherish, and draw inspiration from. If you are young you'll better understand this as you get older. Your time, as well as your mental fuel to work on what you want, is far, far more valuable than any paycheck from any job. And far more valuable than anything could could buy with a large income.
I now live in a very small house. I don't have a TV. I don't have high speed internet. My furniture is very spartan. My old phone is my connection to the net, at $25 a month. I watch videos at 480p. I spend time outside hiking and riding my bike (free), and with friends and family. That's good enough. My life is not complicated at all. But I have more of my time. What time is left.
A simple life is all one needs to aspire to in order to attain happiness.
where do you find a cheap house?
@@danielbooth5035 I bought my house in a working poor income neighborhood 17 years ago. It was fairly expensive at the time (for me), and I did have to work full time. But over 10 years later I gave up my "career" and life in the rat race. I now work part-time, and make a small amount of side income. You would consider me to be working poor.
Wish I could create and not have to worry about my financial obligations.
you can create with no money. Buy paper and a pencil done! duhhhh
Either this is some attempt at sarcasm or there is a flaw in your logic so amazing that I can't comprehend how somebody could actually believe it.
borrow or steal....route through skips for materials its easy
Yup! I know that one all too well.
you are able to create your financial obligations ;)
My dad used to say that if you have to work to stay alive, that is, 99,9% of us all, you're done for !!
I love Brian eno. To be honest I haven’t listened to anything he’s made except the start up sound or windows 95 but just that is enough because I love that sound so much. When I hear it it touches a deep part of me
I'm working a .2 position as an art teacher, teaching one class a day at a public middle school. To compensate for this, I work as a Teacher's Assistant at the same school. I am highly over-qualified for this position and could be making double what I do now with a full-time position in a higher paying district. But honestly, what I do now is so enjoyable, and the freedom that I have after work every day is priceless. Please, don't fall into the vortex of chasing money. It doesn't last, it doesn't satisfy, it only makes your life more of a struggle. Enjoy this life! It's yours to enjoy.
Everyone is born equal. Our minds are equal socially always. No one decides value in others. We decide value in ourselves. The only human beings that have less value socially are those that are violent and/or aristocratic. We are not here to judge or to pick fights, but to love, share honesty, cooperate, and contribute. If an individual sees things differently, they are jealous and won’t admit it. What we do (showing off to impress others) and what our personalities are (the level of honesty we share) must be separate ideas, not one and the same. Human beings need to make a distinction between those two and keep it there always. There is no room for classism in an evolved society. It leads to mental illness, homelessness, religion, and violence. Focus on telepathy. Evolve the planet with empathy and compassion.
u r brave and deep.
Life’s to short.. surround yourself with people with a great attitude and be kind & happy life’s too short not to.. so enjoy your time here on earth while you can 💜
True.
Born with nothing.
We make choices of our lives.
Some people may leave school with no qualifications and still became successful.
Some people who go to university, may end up being unemployed for years, or end up forming bands = Queen.
Say that to day labourer in africa.
I’ve never heard a take like this before… Such immense wisdom and brilliance! Unfortunately, especially in today’s world, someone in the family needs to be the horse and go to work or else you’ll find yourself living on the streets… Not fair at all but such is life!
I moved into a RV to bring my living expenses down, As housing in Denver Colorado is extremely expensive.
It allowed me to quit one of my part time jobs (waiting tables (20 years)) and play music busking on the street instead .. I still work pt time nites at ups for about 1/2 my income and medical and dental insurance..
I get 6-7 hours sleep instead of the 4 1/2 I was getting and am way happier .
I've just started doing this. any tips?
Well done
how much coin do you make busking?
stringsnare it varies so much .. location / day / other performers (drummers/bucket players/trumpet players encroaching .. I hate noise pollution so hard to play some popular spots.. I use two 50 watt amps with a deep cell battery and pure sine inverter to power my amps, looper and effects.. I made very little with just an acoustic guitar.. so I never play acoustic busking
I’ve made as little as $20 for 3 hours on a cool cloudy windy day on the walking mall but I’ve also made that much in parks practicing with no tip jar out ..
Usually $85-$125 for 4 hours before covid ...
Most was $250 in 4 hours during zombie crawl..
An old guy wrote me a check for $250 a few weeks ago while I was practicing in a park.. I made $130 last Saturday in another park . That was unexpected.. hasn’t been the norm lately .. but I also attract occasional park rangers enforcing the no speaker rule.. then I move the speakers into my rv 😂 it’s worked.. I’ve got a few noise complaints where the cops have shut me down in the parks .. not so much on the sidewalks around town .. but covid has changed things
@@kayakchrispy thats amazing, thanks so much, more incentive for me to practice more :):)
Thank you for telling me I'm doing the right thing. Everyone else says I'm not. Great speach.
When I was younger I was very inspired by bohemian artists like Van Gogh who lived for creativity. He pretty much made no money from his own art during his own lifetime..but his legacy 100 years later is that the value of his dedication is huge, both financially and culturally to the world..however, I saw a documentary about art in the Netherlands: the government from I think the 1950s funded for about 30 years a living wage to anyone who called themselves an artist. During that period huge amounts of art was created, and the program showed a vast building filled with millions of paintings filed away..most of which were completely valueless and uninteresting..the policy ended in the 1980’s..I personally believe in a living wage for everyone, it’s something that the Green Party in the U.K. advocate, and I read that even in the USA there are trials running in some cities that provide a basic income…it will probably be the future for humans in an A.I.productive world. The spiritual guru Osho said something like “too much in this world is created, produced, invented..there’s too much stuff..why strive? Simply celebrate being alive and enjoy yourself”
@br4n1g4n
But the idea is to create . That is the value.
🍻
Meanwhile the US has stripped all arts funding…
Yes! Invest your time and energy in your work and on how you can interact with your community... that's the real deal, the ultimate prize. Thank you BE!
Sadly there's a little catch in this - the interaction itself. Levels of commitment (and mutual expectations, I believe) between people. There is always a push and pull kind of situation with it.
josé freitascruz Too true, the real deal would be being here for eachother rather than the dollar sign, that would truely make a life
We need more caring economies!
I agree with him, but is very easy to say that living in a first world country
if u got some privilege living in 3rd world.. u can do it too
Ian Abrahão it is said the happiest are the poorest...they don't worry about all the haves, and keeping up with things, protecting, etc. they work and live together and share all resources as need and because it is right action. some times with choice there is misery...
@@jlande6 The get off the Internet.
EXACTLY. Completely different realities
What about living in a first world country makes you not have to work?
Great thoughts from Brian. Wanted to add some from myself, over the years I came to realise how I hate this belief that pursuing a "creative career" is only for "hippies" or those lacking ambition, while "real jobs" are IT, finance, or anything non-creative...
I personally felt this more than I should have, especially being from Eastern Europe, where this mindset have really grown into generations (resonates with the quote by Brian - "creative geniuses draw inspiration from creative communities").
I'm sure people from western Europe or North America are way more open-minded about this, but sadly many other people I know grew up being taught that art and creativity is a waste of time, and in reality, 9-5 jobs offer security, but little fulfillment.
Scary thing that usually it's not the people's fault individually, but rather how society tells you to do. Someone already mentioned here in the comments it's hard to make it in arts and that's completely true, but it's a gift we all have and all must try to pursue, if not for financial gain, then for your own personal fulfillment or to build your confidence, or for contributing to our culture, cause at the end of the day we are all equally responsible for our way of life.
I liked Eno's talk, i have also watched Alan Watt's video "What if money wasnt an object". So we are given the opportunity to create. The topic has many layers, not everybody is a creator or they can be but creation is not only about an artistic practice. We are all trying to survive in this economy, with life's pressures. The challenge is trying to do it, regardless of the obstacles. I know its hard but its worth it, it requires discipline, strength, talent, passion and more but the most important thing imo is that i know it sounds easy than done but the key element is that once you do it, it will provide an immense satisfaction and especially meaning to you life and thats probably what Eno's intention was.
A big part the money and success Eno got was due to not falling into the traditional path. Many others just like him chose the traditional path (whether due to obligation, parental/children pressures or simply "surviving" by targeting a job to access food and shelter) and they lived fine lives. He never says "don't get a job or you will live an awful life". He also doesn't say "if you don't get a job you will be successful". He simply says try not to get a job". He is simplifying because we're supposed to be able to elaborate on the concept. So yes, millionaire Eno is telling you how he became successful. He didn't get a job. He hustled, created, learned and stiff-armed tradition and traditional routes of work. You can not like it and scream BS and bring politics into it, none of that changes his perspective or the route he took in life.
yes and that's HIS individual genius! not many achieved what he did
Seeing as this is from a forum on basic universal income I hardly think it can be read as an apolitical success story.
While I understand Brian’s point ( I know very well that to be creative, you need time) I really would like to know who supported him while he was being creative? Who went to work and paid for his home, his food, his clothes, and all the other expenses of normal life? You cannot survive without money to live on. Who couldn’t be creative because they had to get a job to not only support themselves but support him too? I wish this video had explained that.
My day job has wasted most of my prime hours of music creation, I struggled and did my music before work, during work (creating during lunch and every break, sometimes in the back of my car), and all night, and all weekends, while raising a family too. I'm tired, so tired now ... but still try to work on my craft even while exhausted, not to mention doing the work of 20 different careers in diy fashion (composing, practice and recording - playing all instruments, mixing, mastering, graphic artistry, promotion, all social media, website design, photography and video shooting and editing, thousands of hours of just secretarial work, cleaning, setting up, computer work, countless more which also contribute to hundreds of songs being left undone) - being an artist is difficult, and now I wish I had more money and help.
Brian wants to de-emphasize the genius in scenius in order to build a teamius for making art that trims the fat to keep it leanius, otherwise you work the office suppressing the screamius waiting to go home and drink Jim Beanius if you know what I meanius.
Alex Hand it is quite handius
hell yeah brother
@RED PILL PORTAL Sounds like you need to cool it on the Qanon shit, buddy. You can't be a global elite who's opposed to free market enterprise. The global elites are the winners of free market enterprise, and as an artist, Brian Eno is certainly not among them. Nor does communism have literally anything to do with any of this.
@RED PILL PORTAL i dont think he thinks that... he means that people should try and work as little as possible so you can spend the rest of your time doing something you want to do, believe me i hate comunists but this isnt communism its just trying to balance your life better
Lmao sweetius
I've been a working full time drummer for a couple years now, I would have NEVER gotten to where I am now if I didn't quit my part time labor intensive jobs. Sure it's a quick way to make a buck but it takes away the most important thing we have: TIME. Time you could be spending perfecting your craft, making connections with other people, and pursuing your artistic career as a whole, as well as how to make money from your art. Part time jobs only get in the way of your success.
Could I ask you more about this? I'm contemplating doing this rn, and even am making enough money to survive on music alone, but am scared to quit my now high-paying 4-day a week day job, since ive had a taste of money now. I lose time, to get strong enough in my craft to be able to succeed in my scene. But I gain money to be able to better advertise what i do - which is increasingly not good enough because of the time stolen from it by my day job for that money.
@@dochasbeo5468 if you have any dependents relying on you then keep your job. Your family is more important than any dream
@@sp123 No dependents. I don't need much to live on. Handed in my notice last Friday. It's done now, either way haha! Estimating I'll be able to make 40% of what I've been making for the moment, hopefully bringing it up to 60/65% in 3-4 months. Regardless, I made the best call I could. Something felt wrong about being in there, and I couldn't even pretend anymore. Couldn't dial it in. I work from home, and without a whip cracked on me, nothing was even making me work anymore. I was beginning to waste these people's time and resources, and it didn't seem right to do that anymore. Going to spend a lot of time on my local street, where street musicians, if they're good, can make a decent living. It will be tough - but this is the path I've taken, and better believe I'm going to give it my everything.
I loved how he points out that labelling someone a genius "singles out" an individual when really they were in the middle of an active, thriving cultural scene and a product of that.
Eno is talking about the creative process and art. He is saying we are all part of a zeitgeist, and while we're moving through this time, there will people who can articulate what is happening in their immediate environment. These articulations will mark a period in history.
From this standpoint, Eno is FAR FROM pompous because he is saying that his artistic input is ONE OF MANY. It also includes other equally articulate musicians AND also includes writers, inventors, filmmakers, etc. - any creator in that same zeitgeist. In this sense, everyone collectively lays the fertile groundwork from which creativity springs from. This is why you really shouldn't think too much of your individual work.
Eno is really displaying humility by acknowledging the role his environment had on his success, and that he was merely a small part of that. And this creatively nurturing environment is what he thinks is lacking.
Your conclusion is a little black and white, and quite frankly, hierarchal, and very much based on commercial success which is the wrong way to interpret what Eno said. Further, the idea of meritocracy is arbitrary and an ideological construct. If you don't believe this, consider artists who never achieved commercial success but should have because they were hugely influencial and created seismic changes in their field - people like Little Richard, Chuck Berry and every blues artist that came before them. If the world really functioned on merit, the prejudices of the times wouldn't have been been a factor in how they were treated.
Yep it is like Schwarzenegger said:
"I dont believe in the concept of the Selfmade Man. Everybody is where he is because he had help of others around him"
(for example parents, teachers, farmers ect)
You missed the point, just because someone is raised in the same environment doesnt mean they will make all the same life decisions. (Another black and white Conclusion on your part) Where you conclude that just because they had the "exact same upbringing " they should have lived identical lives. Although there are individuals who will be seen as pioneers or figure heads to every artistic endeavor there is no denying the fact that these individuals need a start that is nurturing to their growth just as a seed only will sprout with a sufficient water source. It only makes sense that many of the greatest or most well known artists are those surrounded by many artistic folk during their upbringing. Many people will make bad decisions but if they are never allowed to exist in an environment where they have the option to be creatives then no one will ever know just the capacity to which they can be artistic which I think eno is really trying to get at, and Not not that we must crush and beat down on anyone who stands out as exceptionally talented. @maxwellboyne2770
@maxwellboyne2770 Well - Schwarzenegger's quote says it all. He was probably fortunate to meet the right people at the right time. Don't get me wrong - hard work is extremely important, but it's just part of the equation of success. If it were the primary reason, there would be a hell of a lot more billionaires.
@maxwellboyne2770 This video was about art and obviously you're not an artist so what are you doing here anyway? BTW, simple minds hurl insults when they have nothing interesting to say. Good day.
The good things are for the rich and their offspring to enjoy. The rest of us can only hope to survive. There has never been so little money in music for most practioners. Only the rich can afford it now.
It's also never been cheaper or easier for a single person to produce music. If it's good people reward you by paying.
Brian Eno is such an important part of art and society and how they influence each other.
I love his perspective and insight, so so inspiring! Scenius, just brilliant.
shame. negativland would have been better without eno's dick up their backside. fuckwit. "small craft on a sea of milk". very small craft.
Pretentious prick
Kelvin Smith are you calling the commenter pretentious or Eno?
@@classicpinball9873 Eno of course
Kelvin Smith Maybe his solo work is kinda dumb but he produced great albums like Heroes and Remain in Light
Spot bloody on. What a hero and inspiration Eno has been in my life.
Beanius: The creative intelligence of baked beans.
Burundi
Penious: the creative intelligence of the male sex organ (insert joke here)
🤣😂🤣😂
@@PatrickAlanMcL I refer to mine as weenius
@@PatrickAlanMcL that's what she said
I think there is a balance you can reach in life. I was in college and overly stressed and depressed. My mental health had gotten worse than almost ever. I left school and work as a bartender now on some days so I can make music and follow my passions at night. I dont make much money but I've been lucky enough to find a cheap apartment and lessen my bills some.
i quit highschool and took a 3 year beak, in those 3 years i learnt more things than all the time before that.
i became a quite proficient software engineer and won hacking competitions.
i think, funilly enough we may have a more productive society if people didn't have to work and just did what they wanted to with no pressure to do so.
if instead of making project with the goal of making money we made things with the goal of making something good regardless if it makes money or not.
i had to work this last year, and i never felt so stuck in my life, the time sink that it was prevented me to work on my projects in a satisfying pace.
well i'm unemployed right now and honestly i'm just trying to launch my own company now so that i can work on things i actually care about instead of meaningless hour crunching.
We should work 2 days per week MAXIMUM. The rest of the week should be spent being creative in some way. 2 day weeks will eliminate unemployment. A basic income in line with the cost of living should be a given for everyone. No debate at all. It’s time to take back our lives from corporate greed.
ice man for president
Not everybody is or wants to be creative. There's a world to be run too.
@@cigh7445 if you aren't being creative then the world is running you
Brian Eno my man! Sometimes, it is such a pleasure to have your own opinions confirmed by the people you respect the most on matters that are completely different from the ones you know them by.
I have personally had in my life periods of time with plenty of freedom and time to spend on my own things, as well as periods where the necessity of labor catches up and requires full attention. The difference is staggering... now I'm not exactly an audiophile, but let's say that I'm quite serious about music. At some point, work was eating so much of me that I couldn't even appreciate music anymore, you're just too tired and your mind is full of shit, of things you have to do the next days or things that have already happened but which leave a strong print... Appreciation of the arts need one's mind to be pure in a way, it's got to be empty, focused, clear. You just don't listen to music the same way when the best conditions are not met, and the difference is HUGE. It's like there are levels of depths in terms of perception. A lot of people won't like what I'm saying but that's the truth...
If perception can come in such different levels depending on the circumstances, I can't even begin to fathom how much they influence creation.
Every student in high school should see this. Plus we need universal basic income.
The essence of his message
Breathes life into our lives.
Thank you.
if only the world was this simple... meanwhile we're out here struggling.
id give anything to excel my music passion.
I am the worst at what I do best.
And for this gift I feel blessed.
I would like to out myself as someone who idealised this way of thinking because I didn't want to face people.
I made music, and toyed with making gaming content too, but I could never shake the fact that I didn't connect to a crowd I sung to, and was in fact afraid of them.
Maybe that lifestyle works for someone is lucky enough to have a lot to say (fuel for their art) and can make connections easily, but for me it was lonely, and, given that the only thing I did was make art and stay at home, I felt after time that it was existentially weird for me to expect people to relate to art that came from such a sheltered place.
I will still probably make art as time goes by, but now I will have to get a job and face my anxiety and ineptitude.
Had I been a more healthy and well rounded individual, maybe thongs would have been brighter.
Going through that right now. After all there isn't much to be said and most of the "problems" people sing about aren't really problems at all, so why bother writing songs about those things lol.
Out of curiosity, how old are you?
You have to network with other artists bro. Like the video says, great art is made in communities. You may meet another artists to bounce ideas off of and get better at art
Eno is such a great inspiration to higher thinking. I wish I could have heard his talk when I was in school.
Easy to say Mr Eno but most folk don't have that luxury. having said that, I ditched my full time job 14 years ago to work from home creating sounds and images to sell online. A good compromise for me with less money, but enough to live off, and more importantly, time to work on my own creative projects.
Sometimes you just have to go on creating regardless of circumstance. You might burn out but you can recharge and find some balance
Im trying to write a job application.
THis is not helping
Plan B should support Plan A
@@Lpearse and yet it never does. Unless your white
Hope you ripped up the application
@@kyffinjones8028 Nah, i got a job trough networking XD
I’ve spent years fostering a healthier relationship with my family and it’s been a lot of work. But the whole time I’ve been allowed to live with them and essentially remain financially dependent on them but I feel no shame because I spend time creating things I love and spending time with people I love. Career and money mean nothing if you don’t have the reasons to pursue them.
im pretty much the exact same as you in this regard
Very true ❤
"Everyone has a unique set of talents." Especially Liam Neeson.
I used to think that a guaranteed "basic income" would be great for society, but now I'm highly skeptical of it. Disregarding the very serious issue that basic income would have to be issued by an authority (your government) and that now you have essentially a captive population that only survives by the grace of their government (what the govt giveth the govt can also taketh away), an even bigger issue is that I now believe that genuine happiness can only come from having a deep sense of integration and purpose within society--and for most people, that means having a JOB.
Even when we hate our jobs, we often take for granted how important a job is to experiencing genuine happiness. It's very easy to take for granted the economic algebra of need that pushes everyone to find a way to contribute and integrate with society. Remove that and the result may not be the utopia one might imagine. Furthermore, we experience life through contraries. Without experiencing the ying we can't comprehend the yang. Even for artists trying to break out from the system, the daily grind creates a ying that is the perfect counterpoint to the yang that artists chase after. Here you have this cage, and there you have freedom. How can we truly know and appreciate freedom without having also experienced the cage?
While true for men, most women have the option of having children which brings the same or even more genuine happiness and purpose, but when your society is against having children then that's a problem. You could also argue that raising children is a Job and a rewarding one at that.
i dont think you understand UBI
Even when we hate our jobs, we often take for granted how important a job is to experiencing genuine happiness. - utter nonsense. Many people in jobs are suffering yet because of money are not free to pursue another more rewarding job
Most people shouldn’t be artists. At least, not as a vocation.
you have a lack of understanding of how basic income works. it does not cover every expense, it does not lift you out from poverty. It enables you to escape poverty by being able to afford tuition, by being able to buy food to live, instead of starving for the night because all your money went to rent. Just look at how people spent their covid money. 50 percent of people that received covid money in canada used it on education. Please actually do some research.
People have to work we're not privileged we had to work to pay our bills and survive you are so lucky if you do not have to work to eat to exist
I’m always impressed by successful and affluent people who give trite and slightly offensive life advice like this.
Because Brian Eno didn’t come from a middle class art school background at all, so he knows all about it.
it's slightly offensive reading your comment!
Love the first part about "scenius". Highly underrated and precisely one of the reasons I stopped pursuing a career in arts. I love producing art, but the people you need to hang out with are unfortunately mostly just insufferable self-absorbed spoiled children. I have a job now and work with the most wonderful, reflecting people whilst doing amazingly fun projects. So the demonization of jobs for the benefit of some poorly-defined ideal of "community-based art jobs" is shallow to say the least.
The best decision I've ever made in my life - which was also the most scary one - was to "abandon" my dream of making music professionally. I have never been happier and haven't looked back since.
An interesting spin on this topic. And I agree, artists can be insufferable egotists. But so can anyone in any profession--ESPECIALLY if it's a profession.
Frankly this is true. I was jobless for too long but God wanted to develop my talents which I have a lot. I sing play the piano and paint. I’m very artistic but then I question. God I need money too but it’s true if you wander off you never pay attention to all these creative ideas.
Everyone should have a basic income and the ability to do what makes them happy! ❤️
HAVE a basic income, or EARN a basic income?
@@seanm3226 working a couple hours per day should be enough to ensure an income for every single person on earth..
@@johnentwistle952 “a couple hours a day”? Man, do I feel overworked.
I have a “Workaholic” friend. Mention work and he starts drinking. 🍺😵
😂👍
I was a workaholic, for years I was hopelessly addicted to workahol
DAVID REYNOLDS Um. This is awkward, but, are you me? Some sort of “Fightclub” me? Damnit David, you’re drunk right now 😬
Must be an alcoholic too
As I share this thoughts (and I'm super glad you shared / I found this video) I feel super relieved, for my feeling of guilt going away, whenever someone told me I am talented or sum... It was never ONLY ME, it was the internet, the time and space given to chill and practice, etc... weight has been lifted from my shoulders, and I'm better able to recognize properly other artists, knowing that they represent a context, set of conditions, HUGE history behind their ancestors and so on... dope, thanks.
Oscar Wilde suggested this very same idea in 'The Soul of Man under Socialism', that mankind's potential can be truly liberated if we free ourselves from the yoke of labour and soul destroying jobs. Oscar also suggested that Art, creative writing....and perhaps simply the process of 'thinking' (truly thinking) is a human beings ultimate goal. To think, and thus create, and to reflect upon what you, I, and all have created, and for such creations to further feed our minds, allowing the process of creativity and intellectual evolution grow.....and to free ourselves of the mundane process of utilitarian obligation.... how beautiful.
Add to that the possibility that humans are on the brink of embarking upon an automated society via self-conscious computers and sophisticated robotics.... perhaps a century from now many many people may be given the gift of true freedom to think and create and grow as never before. Freedom however, in my experience, comes with the responsibility to learn and value how best to use your precious time.
great comment my friend, gonna seek that book!
Óscar A. Montiel
Most compilations of Wilde's works will contain this essay. Another of my Wilde favourites that inspires me greatly is 'The Critic as Artist', in which Wilde proposes that in critiquing an artistic work, one may create something even greater via such analysis. Wilde & Eno, good company.
wilde's essay is easily found using google, but if i post the link the bots will probably eat it. it's at the marxists dot org site, for sure.
Have fun joining the over 200 MILLION people socialists killed in the last 100 years. So fucking stupid. You'll be dying in droves just as soon as they can get full control - same way they have been, ever since they started marching. Lazy, ignorant fools...enjoy the hurt, because you don't want to EARN your own money....just give your power away to politicians. You'll see.
i'm not quite sure why the right continues to push this long debunked point.
there was never any concept of worker self-ownership, not in russia and certainly not in china. this continued perpetuation of what is really just ignorance isn't even perplexing, it's just annoying - nobody believes this, and no amount of repetition is going to make it believable.
The clothes on his back, the microphone he's speaking into, the transport that brought him there all exist due to jobs. He's living a privileged life thanks to other people's jobs!
True sir, yet he had to fight other things which we cannot fathom
Who doesn’t want to do art and not have to work a traditional job? We will always need folks to grow food, transport stuff, raise children, etc. I love art as much as much as the next person, but professional artists are far from essential. A better way to think about this is to instill the artistic/craftsman mentality in all citizens. Every job would benefit from this.
wow this video came at the right moment, thanks
I think of all the time people put into constructive hobbies. things like gardening, crafts, programming, writing. this is work! I have stories that took me dozens of hours to write, edit, and polish. Not that these are worth selling, but I have gotten better, over the years. I like doing this work! I would do it more, if I had more free time.
UBI could be a launchpad for artists, but also for slightly unprofitable craftsmen. never mind people who play esoteric musical instruments, what about the people who make those instruments? we could have more farmers specializing in heirloom crops, fabricworkers who can create custom clothes and alter outfits. More repair people! Nobody repairs electronics because the time it takes is not proportional to the money it makes. UBI can subsidize repair people, so we can quit throwing away our things, once they get a little crack or break. Imaging the legion of scientists, researchers, and historians this would unleash! people who can finally get paid to generate, curate, and pursue knowledge.
Such humility. Giving credit to the whole and not each person. Then saying the entire room knows more about earning. Both might be spot on though
Quit my job cause I realized how soul sucking it was, and also realized how I could live without so many things I used to think I need. I am trying to give up material goods for something greater and go back to school. I am lucky cause I have the support of my family , if I was stubborn I’d try to work a job so I could be independent, but I know living on my own would isolate me from them, and then subsequently isolate me from everyone. I don’t know how much time my mother has left and I don’t want to be so busy working for shit I don’t need that I won’t be there for her before she’s gone. I don’t want to party or do things my family doesn’t approve of so bad that I am willing to risk the time I have left with them. I spent enough of my time working for someone else’s success, it’s time to work on building my own, and thriving in the wealth of time spent with loved ones. It’s scary and daunting, but my old life working as a wage slave is far worse, it took everything away from me.
My hero !! The amount of brilliant music this man gave to the world is staggering..
In the future he most likely will be held in te same regard as the famous classical composers.....
True.
The way I think of 'money' today is like a 'token of gratitude,' meaning you're thanking and learning of those involved. I'm a financial mess, but each day, if you work on it, it becomes second-nature while your work becomes first-nature.
Someone have to pay the bills, always. Art is privilege, as all the good things in life.
Absolutely. Somebody has the lay the stones on the road, clean the streets. Robots ain't doing it yet.
it's easy say when you are a genius, we all are just simply mortals that need a job to Eat and buy Eno albums.
He is a genius because of his sceneius
find a job in the field you love dumbass
easy to say when you have millions in the bank...
@@prelude12341 He is talking about a political change to make it possible for everyone.
@@RasberrySkittle you assume everyone has the drive and the will to do what will make them happy.
Though i agree with the idea here. That we should not have to earn money to maintain basic human functions(housing, healthcare,food). I feel like having a job or doing some sort of work that isnt direcfly related to the art you make will make you a better artist. Because it forces you into situations that might be uncomfortable or unaware. If art is subjective so is life and it feedsback on each other.
I can say all the thousands of hours I spent in a factory/warehouse I would have rather spent them on my guitar/DAW, def would have been better to make same money out of "art"
I've been creating self employed for decades and it's a roller coaster for sure I most admire the guys who pick up the trash in the back alley.
What would we do without them?
@Matteo R , seems impossible. I think we should recycle 99% of trash.
Do not remove them, just give them a meaning, not: "i only do this job because i earn money,so i can support myself"
but
"I do this beacause I now the city is more clean and we will live better"
Rob Robi unfortunately, we’ve stopped recycling because it’s not financially viable. Getting rid if money as the sole metric of success must come first
@@profquad , money is nothing more than a promise. We won't be getting rid of promises. You don't exactly eat that paper do you.
🎯🎯🎯 "When it's good, it's really good, and when it's bad I go to pieces..." -- David Bowie
I an so grateful that I work for myself in a creative profession for my living. I have grown to appreciate my lifestyle more and more as I continue to age. Nothing is more important than having the time and freedom to think.
Brian Eno: Don't get a job
Me: Listens to Music for Airports while working
Universe:
This man is one of the most well-spoken musicians on our planet.
Serge Handfeld It sounds good but he's still chatting wham!
Telling people to "Quit your job in order to do art" is an out of touch, rich person idea, completely disconnected from reality, he is advocating for taking money away from productive people to give it to unproductive people so dumbass unproductive artists can play guitar, which is an extremely dictatorial and violent position to have (and notice he doesn't redistribute his wealth for this cause he advocates for)
The concept of "SCENIUS" is non-sense too, it's a communist idea made to detract from individual merit, which is something leftists hate, it's saying that people who are accomplished and that changed the world didn't actually did it, but that society did it, by this logic when a web developer makes a website he didn't make the website, society instead made the website, it's an insulting thing to say that no one with accomplishments and self awareness would admit too, by this logic when a Nobel prize winner in the United States changes society for the better with their discovery "society" as a whole did it, some dude playing video games all day and watching porn is just as important as that scientist, completely ridiculous collectivist non-sense made up to detract from individual merit.
You think this is eloquent? you think these are good points? lol.
i always wanted to take a much more flexible/mobile, professional career (perhaps relating to nature/wildlife or technology) that i'm extremely interested or passionate over a standard non-professional jobs (ex. salesperson, food service workers, medical assistants, etc. ).
i very much appreciate the enlightening advice from Maestro Eno 💯💚
Shit, okay guys we need to start a scene
Hit me up!
Simultaneously all across the world!?
I was in the fortunate position of having made an easy 60 grand and so I took 2 years off work: the first 3 months were AWESOME: the next 3 months not so good and after that the anxiety set in, worry, nerves, the worry about "what comes next?" Not doing anything constructive AND paid can kill you just the same as working 60-70 hours a week can. The middle ground is best: I don't mind working for somebody else's dream as long as they pay me well and the hours are not more than 35 a week, what the hell, if they treat me right II'll even make them a coffee and a sandwich.
Buddha chose the middle path.
@@asianharrypotter8984 with how overweight he was I doubt he chose anything middle
@@BigBootyBatmanhe was not overweight lol
That is what I battle for as a working class person and I am starting to make progress now in my 40s but also starting to be able to share that with others which I think is the key having struggled through myself I know helping others is the true way out for both the individual and the collective where as I have known many born with privilege who miss out because they do not want to risk giving up something but if you do not then you do not get the scene and that is the thing you really need
It's true. One of the most difficult ordeals in life is to be forced to do something you don't want to do. Such efforts lead nowhere and can even be disastrous.
It is what it is. We are born slave and die like slave. That is the curse of exustence. Think of the life of farmer. Isn't it brutal.
@@aek12 Yep. Once you get old enough, you realize that suffering and existence are one and the same.