Beethoven: Symphony No.3, "Eroica"; Jarvi, DKB

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  • @tonyanderton3521
    @tonyanderton3521 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Genius in every way. Ludwig, you were taken too early from us, but your spirit lives on. God bless.

  • @gswhipkey1
    @gswhipkey1 9 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    My favorite interpretation of the Eroica. Jarvi is just about the only conductor I've found on TH-cam who gives the piece the brisk tempi that I think are crucial in order to convey the energy and urgency of the piece. ESPECIALLY in the glorious third movement - I find I'm no longer satisfied unless the third movement is played at least this tempo. Absolutely phenomenal.

    • @psalmtone2008
      @psalmtone2008 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Not just the tempi. It's the idea of the internal rhythms...the stressed hemiolas, the inner voices.

    • @maakmakmak
      @maakmakmak 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Charles Cornner Yes, but overall, the music has to be fast enough to bring out all of Beethoven’s what I call (random brilliance) where you never know what’s next.

    • @johnpeschke7723
      @johnpeschke7723 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      he has a sense of tempo for each movement and not just here, see his recording of Saint-Saens organ symphony...a marvelous interpretation of that work.

    • @andrewb9974
      @andrewb9974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      100% best Eroica, and I've heard hundreds including as a cellist myself...

    • @Ohsoaskarian
      @Ohsoaskarian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly. Even the 2nd movement. It’s a funeral (March) so it’s the perfect tempo here.

  • @scheepalicious
    @scheepalicious 11 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Now THIS is what a modern day orchestra should sound like! Brings tears to my eyes.

  • @Noe2-qr4mn
    @Noe2-qr4mn 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    There is no one quite like Beethoven. He had a style that was all his own. A top composer! This is a great orchestra too! Thank you for sharing...

  • @ricardoguzman114
    @ricardoguzman114 9 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    This rendition really captures those amazing ideas and quick musical intellect that Beethoven had overflowing in his mind.

  • @farid554
    @farid554 9 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    GREATEST PERFORMANCE OF EROICA I HAVE HEARD SO FAR. CAPTURED ALL OF THE ENERGY!

  • @jorgesuarez7077
    @jorgesuarez7077 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I cannot get enough of this video. The musicians in this orchestra play as if their lives depended on it. Just wonderful!

  • @talevita
    @talevita 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’ve never been able to decide if I like this more than Beethoven’s 6th or 7th and that’s okay because I have time to listen to all of them every day. I’m so glad.

  • @psalmtone2008
    @psalmtone2008 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The coda to the first movement is heaven, especially the cellos and basses towards the end.

    • @Lodovico-cy2kz
      @Lodovico-cy2kz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Concordo, il tema principale aperto sul si bemolle con tre timbri diversi, uniti al crescendo, fanno di quel passaggio qualcosa di davvero titanico. Love Beethoven

  • @johnpeschke7723
    @johnpeschke7723 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    jarvi know every note, who is supposed to be playing that note, and looks directly at each and every musician as he conducts. that kind of attention to and respect for your musicians will produce a stellar performance almost every time.

  • @GeoffreyLeather
    @GeoffreyLeather 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I agree with the other comments about this performance and he lets the musicians play naturally, not forced which maybe Beethoven intended it to be. Bravo again!!

  • @peaceharmony4115
    @peaceharmony4115 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Thank you so much for uploading these Beethoven symphonies, as directed by Jarvi, and performed by DKB! These are among the finest works of music ever written, and they are played wonderfully here.
    Un grand merci!

  • @dexternorman4136
    @dexternorman4136 8 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    That touch of "Quartet" in the Finale is very awesome

    • @caginn
      @caginn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree! @35:47 I wonder in which edition of this work it appears.

  • @anthonyhk
    @anthonyhk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The best beethoven cycle and the best eroica, from Jarvi and DKB

    • @haydnenthusiast
      @haydnenthusiast 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely true

    • @andrewb9974
      @andrewb9974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's floating in outer space...how on earth haven't people realized this is out of this world yet? The whole cycle, yes! But even #3 alone...the second mov is outrageously brilliant. The tempo...the timpani...the whole damn thing!!!!! I liken Jarvi as the newer Kleiber. Both just "get it" and his skills in conveying to the orchestra are similar.
      Forever grateful 🙏

  • @samuelfabian9737
    @samuelfabian9737 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    No matter how many times you may have heard the Eroica, this one is like hearing (and seeing) it for the first time. Congratulations to all concerned!

    • @allenhubbard7090
      @allenhubbard7090 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Correct. You always pick up on something new.

    • @samuelfabian9737
      @samuelfabian9737 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Finale starts at 34:25.

  • @tanaraci92
    @tanaraci92 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Crazy good interpretation obviously. Might even be the best. But the production values of the video itself is also very impressive. I don't think I've ever seen a symphony shot on film this well. Perfect (and musically informed) close-ups. Just enough conductor shots. Incredible work.

  • @johnries5593
    @johnries5593 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The camera work on this video is gorgeous.

  • @stjames3852
    @stjames3852 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    jarvi, always magnificent. very fast playing, very talented group. beautiful music.

  • @davidlis8756
    @davidlis8756 11 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    This symphony was first performed in Vienna around 1804 in a small room in front of noble dignitaries. Joseph Haydn heard about the casual premier of this symphony and arrived just as the 4th movement was beginning. He knew right away that Beethovan's style was different and unique. He didn't necessarily like it and actually called it "quite noisy", but he knew that the time had come for change and evolution of orchestral music and he accepted it. He stated that "from this day forward, marks a new beginning".

    • @zonto22
      @zonto22 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Source?

    • @davidlis8756
      @davidlis8756 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Riley Lovendale
      Watch the Movie "Eroica" here on YT. It's all spelled out historically and the actors did tremendous job in the movie.

    • @KenNickels
      @KenNickels 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +David Lis Papa Haydn was old enough to live out the maxim, Good. Better. Best. Bested.

    • @andymilsten9096
      @andymilsten9096 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      David Lis exactly! I watched that, and they were amazing actors. They really gave an idea to what the real first rehearsal was like in real life. Now of course in all Beethoven movies everything that happens is stuff that really happened when he was alive so they are very realistic.

    • @helmutschmid4841
      @helmutschmid4841 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Leonore Beethovens

  • @domenicogargiulo6218
    @domenicogargiulo6218 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Bellissimo! Interpretazione stupenda; andamento più celere rispetto a tutte le altre interpretazioni che conosco e un senso dell'agogica e un gusto nell'esporre le frasi superlativo. Eccezionale maestro. Tra le migliori se non la migliore interpretazione che io abbia mai sentito.

  •  8 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Beethoven+ Jarvi+ DKB = Soulgasm

  • @smitlag
    @smitlag 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I often get emotionally overwhelmed by the intensity of the development section. It is almost like Beethoven captured God holding man accountable and thus pointing out the incredible suffering of humanity by the hands of mankind and demanding an answer.

  • @alvarito45
    @alvarito45 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great great maestro Jarvi! Wonderful orchestra!

  • @zigleveit
    @zigleveit 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd love to hear this crew doing the other 8. The winds sound good, and so does the brass. It wants a bit of weight in the bass, but it is so difficult to convey the parts well in this format. The work done here is quite respectable. Damn, that recap in the first movement, and that coda, what an astounding work of art! Bravo!!

  • @ИванДмитриенко-х6г
    @ИванДмитриенко-х6г 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How it must be difficult to rethink and refresh the 200-year old Holy Graal of classical music. But Mr. Jarvi did it! I hear vastness of intellect in every phrase. Some decisions may sound even too alternative but overall it is a master's touch. Simply splendid.

  • @9UaYXxB
    @9UaYXxB 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Photography really focused upon what's going on inside the musicians and Jarvi rather than their fingerings... intriguing, I like this approach

  • @karsadkarsad
    @karsadkarsad 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The march and march-like parts are the best in this conduction. Well done horn gentlemen. Great!

  • @Schrodinger_
    @Schrodinger_ 7 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    39 people declared themselves emperor and Beethoven tore up his dedication of this song to them.

  • @saifulrimkeit296
    @saifulrimkeit296 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Such a majestic ending to this Symphony.
    I trust you are now composing for the Angels, wherever you are.

  • @drDamian91
    @drDamian91 9 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Wonderful violoncellist at 38:20 and on :D
    Great perfomance as well, beautiful ideas from Jaarvi.

  • @johntaylor1953
    @johntaylor1953 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Beautiful tempo. Not dragging like many other versions.Thank you!

  • @MirjaRiihimaki
    @MirjaRiihimaki 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Beethoven's music was my "first love"- it is sometime powerful and gentle

  • @johnries5593
    @johnries5593 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The story of Beethoven tearing up the dedication to Napoleon Bonaparte in a rage upon learning that he had crowned himself Emperor may well be apocryphal, but it is clear that Beethoven never forgave Napoleon for doing it; though a more astute political observer might have noted that the French state over which the latter had presided for the previous five years was a republic in name only. Beethoven wouldn't have been the first or last man to have turned a blind eye to a supposed hero's failings until they could no longer be ignored.
    I've long imagined that the funeral march in the second movement was for Napoleon himself.

    • @historicwine1283
      @historicwine1283 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Is that story apocryphal though? We still have the manuscript, which has a hole on the page where Napoleon's name was, because the composer's pen went through the paper as he was scribbling it out. Seems like some pretty ferocious scribbling.

  • @thejibberjabberwookiee8604
    @thejibberjabberwookiee8604 10 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Bitte sehr. Dies Musik ist sehr spannend und interessant. Ich liebe das Musik von Beethoven.

  • @amirkammona7480
    @amirkammona7480 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The louder drum beating at the part that starts from about 21:50 feels fantastic and I wish they were even louder at least as alternative rendition.

  • @XavFranz
    @XavFranz 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My favorite Beethoven symphony! Genius masterpiece! I think, It's final - 4 part is the most nice work for orchestra!)) I like exactly this performance! Very good interpretation!

  • @ささな-c1y
    @ささな-c1y 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It is my favorite❤️I love beethoven!

  • @humptydumpty-m8u
    @humptydumpty-m8u 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bravo! Sublime performance.🙏🏻

  • @Nizlopi01
    @Nizlopi01 11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yeah, it's fantastic. Never heard it like that before.

  • @MrDsmalls
    @MrDsmalls 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Absolutely magnificent! The tempi is exactly where it should be. The Chailly recording is similar and also excellent.

  • @fe2661
    @fe2661 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    When it comes to Beethoven symphony, Paavo Jarvi is the best

  • @happinessg1062
    @happinessg1062 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Intensive artistic feeling comunicates high-end intellectual power

  • @ThyAxeman
    @ThyAxeman 12 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Jarvi and the Deutsche Kammerphilharmonie Bremen, Beethoven himself would be proud

  • @alfredogomez5241
    @alfredogomez5241 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The first and second movements are excellent.

  • @MrGreekgeorge
    @MrGreekgeorge 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Happy 250th, Maestro!

  • @calebyoungconductor
    @calebyoungconductor 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The best I've heard. Amazing.

  • @XavFranz
    @XavFranz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    After 37:09 and till 37:54 - unreal magnificent and nice theme of this masterpiece!) But of course, all symphony is miracle!

  • @ferarista1
    @ferarista1 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    buena ejecución, el director hizo buen contraste entre lo rápido del 1 mov. y lo lento del 2º., claridad del trío de cornos en el 3ª mov. Buena orquesta. Gracias por compartir este vídeo.

  • @berthajackson7450
    @berthajackson7450 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Beethoven Symphony's No. 3, "Eroica" is beautiful. The instruments were skillfully played and the conductor was quite passionate. I didn't think that I would like Beethoven, but I was impressed. It is very relaxing and delightful. Bravo Beethoven!

    • @s695579
      @s695579 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The Eroica literally changed the way composers thought about music forever

  • @thgiLnooM001
    @thgiLnooM001 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's really wonderful.

  • @R_D_house
    @R_D_house 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    With your permission, I will put the video on my phone

  • @XavFranz
    @XavFranz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    -28:54 - is 3d part "Scherzo".
    -34:26 - is final part.

  • @treatb09
    @treatb09 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i can hear the eq compressing, its kinda like love how most people hide their true feelings long enough to create a facade.

  • @DerDon
    @DerDon 12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love the string quartet in the 4th movement!

  • @WilliamKroupaJr.
    @WilliamKroupaJr. 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Brilliant!

  • @inclaric
    @inclaric ปีที่แล้ว

    Great …. Powerful, heartfelt performance …. MUY BIEN ¡¡¡¡¡¡

  • @isoldehohne6893
    @isoldehohne6893 11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Es ist ein Vergnügen hautnah dabei zu sein, Die Bremer gehören für mich zu den besten Orchestern Deutschlands, wobei Paavo Järvi einen großen Anteil daran hat.

    • @verenaimgluck2010
      @verenaimgluck2010 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      wirklich sehr schön, mit viel Gefühl gespielt und super dirigiert, danke Isolde Höhne Grüässli von der Auslandschweizerin seit 1,5 Jahren am lago maggiore in bella italia lebend Verena Mäder

  • @gamajun2002us
    @gamajun2002us ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is great to live in time of the Jarvis family on Earth

  • @samboothbass
    @samboothbass 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bravo!

  • @lordmy308
    @lordmy308 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuv it so beautiful

  • @labemolmineur
    @labemolmineur 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yes, yes, yes! Been looking hard for a video featuring the horn-call in the third movement so I can use it for a lecture on the instruments on the orchestra, and this, only this, has the daring energy and excitement and joy that I have been craving! Anything less feels like an offense to Beethoven's music.

  • @gbisaga
    @gbisaga 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love concerts on video! This is up there with the Ninth Symphony from Berlin conducted by Bernstein right after the wall fell.

  • @BeingStupidStudios
    @BeingStupidStudios 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love Paavo Jarvi

  • @TheMaestro2005
    @TheMaestro2005 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I really like his interpretation, the second movement was a little to fast for my taste, but i love how he modernized the trumpet line a bit that really stuck out to me.

    • @andymilsten9096
      @andymilsten9096 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maestro Prodigy agreed! I’m glad he did that.

  • @volkermuller-mattheis7228
    @volkermuller-mattheis7228 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Simply great! Remembers me of Carlos Kleiber style!

  • @alexandrefenerich0405
    @alexandrefenerich0405 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the emphasis by the conductor/ Tonmeister on the Contrabass section - unusual on other versions.

  • @parakozm3927
    @parakozm3927 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jarvi does this symphony like no other and his version is superior

  • @MC-zg6yg
    @MC-zg6yg 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    1st movement Tempo is perfect for me. it's not too fast!! beginning tempo is exactly 60.

    • @Quotenwagnerianer
      @Quotenwagnerianer 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No. It is not twice that. It's a three quarter beat and Beethoven asks for exactly that tempo. One beat per bar, 60 per minute. So every bar takes a second. And this is exactly what Järvi is conducting.

  • @cyeric4x
    @cyeric4x 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing!

  • @maram1345
    @maram1345 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Beethoven the best

  • @XavFranz
    @XavFranz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Clarinetists and bassoonists - especial super masters at this orchestra!)

  • @RayReegs
    @RayReegs 12 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Difficult to believe this came from a human mind !

    • @andymilsten9096
      @andymilsten9096 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      RayReegs I know right! It’s just amazing how all of this was thought all up in Beethoven’s head! I take composing lessons and 8 have some really big pieces like this is mind for my future compositions!

    • @gilpinkas9672
      @gilpinkas9672 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      👍

    • @gilpinkas9672
      @gilpinkas9672 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agree

  • @javiervicedomartinez
    @javiervicedomartinez 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Al director Paavo Jarvi le vi en los videos de música clásica en un avión de Lufhansa de Pekin a Franfurt ,dirigia la Novena de Beetowen......no se la pierdan.Aire fresco ,ni mejor ni peor, otra cosa , creo que fué lo mejor de mi viaje a China.

  • @PurpleRevolutionMusic
    @PurpleRevolutionMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    fun little detail. I just watched Last Action Hero again and in the scene where Jack Slater's second cousin dies the main motif of the funeral march is quoted in the score

  • @allenhubbard7090
    @allenhubbard7090 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Beethoven's favorite until the Ninth.

  • @violin123456
    @violin123456 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Completely agree. This is still a very good performance, but it lacks the intensity of the earlier version (which I implore people to listen to!). In that recording, the music and musicians gain a life of their own, something impossible to describe but completely overwhelming. Made my hair stand on end.
    I think Jarvi and the DKB have become more legato in their playing, and seem to use more rubato - perhaps that is part of why this performance is less thrilling.

    • @ernstraedecker6174
      @ernstraedecker6174 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed. The other version (2006 I believe) is better, brisker, more transparent, although this performance is still very good.
      Honeck also excellent, apart from the finale.

  • @xxxx-gy1lr
    @xxxx-gy1lr 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bravooooooooo

  • @이동근-y6u
    @이동근-y6u 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    4th movement starts at 34:26

  • @victormunoz3284
    @victormunoz3284 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Victor Muñoz
    Brillante version de Jarvi no la conocia, sus tonalidades y sus cambios de ritmo agigantan la figura del mas grande compositor de todos los tiempos Beethoven.

  • @OlegGoncharenko
    @OlegGoncharenko 13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Danke! ;-)

  • @noemiserra3366
    @noemiserra3366 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    alati hea Pavo Järvi!

  • @PRHILL9696
    @PRHILL9696 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful!

  • @사마천원리적인식
    @사마천원리적인식 ปีที่แล้ว

    all time greatest symphony~!!!

  • @herbiecactus6687
    @herbiecactus6687 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice performance. The leaner orchestra fits the piece.

  • @kiaracastro8550
    @kiaracastro8550 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    0:05 1st theme
    7:12 Variation on 1st theme
    8:11 New theme in Development

  • @ismaelvalles1754
    @ismaelvalles1754 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Magnífica orquestra de Bremen, brillant director Paavo, inigualable compositor, la tercera simfonia ens porta certament l'heroisme. Ara a l'heroisme d'Ucraïna!

  • @wclasic2008
    @wclasic2008 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excelente orquesta y magistralmente conducida por el maestro Jarvi , solo tengo una inconformidad por la forma del manejo de las cámaras en estos vídeos ya que los cambios tan rápidos que hacen al enfocar cada sección resultan incómodos para disfrutar visualmente de la orquesta, me parece que sería mejor dedicarle algunos segundos más a cada sección instrumental o hacer tomas donde se apreciarán más de una sección a la vez en lugar de hacer movimientos tan rápidos que no nos permite deleitarnos de la gran ejecución de los músicos.

  • @mannfredharjung8926
    @mannfredharjung8926 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I listen to all the other great conductors, in this part of Beethoven he is the greatest

  • @muhammad_hilyah
    @muhammad_hilyah 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    38:25 - 39:05 this passage will always be my favourite

  • @adriancoltea9261
    @adriancoltea9261 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Final of Marcia Funebre really killed me.

  • @fatehserdouk5636
    @fatehserdouk5636 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    45.33 PERFECT FOR ME

  • @themanitoueatery1543
    @themanitoueatery1543 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This conductor conducts with his chii, among other things. 👌

  • @mostxianwuofyou
    @mostxianwuofyou 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What we do and what we think is right here.... OMG

  • @gladwellngqase2214
    @gladwellngqase2214 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Splendid.

  • @sunnymarky
    @sunnymarky 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice to see complete pieces on the Tube by the DKB rather than the Berlin Phil charging alot to watch on their website

  • @LeVilainCam
    @LeVilainCam 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    8:03 ... holy moly, that's heavy

    • @maakmakmak
      @maakmakmak 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      LeVilainCam just how Beethoven wanted it! Pound it out!!!

  • @jrhernandez2991
    @jrhernandez2991 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excelente interpretación de uno de los grandes genios de la música clásica como Beethoven, vi al maestro Paavo Jarvi en el canal de cultura 30 en México y quede maravillado con la fuerza y sentimiento que fue interpretada los sinfonías del maestro Beethoven, ojala en México hubiera mas cultura en lo popular de esta música tan bella e histrionica que nos trasporta a los mas sórdidos sentimientos.

  • @rootiveoportunity
    @rootiveoportunity 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    人類愛なるものを感じる瞬間があるとするならば、それはベートーベンを聴いている時に他ならない。バッハという耽美的拘泥からの偉大なる脱却である。

  • @parkergrosman
    @parkergrosman ปีที่แล้ว

    No doubt his best symphony

  • @jeff13340
    @jeff13340 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    going to the IV movement like a boss B-]