Beethoven: Symphony No.3, "Eroica"; Jarvi, DKB
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- Beethoven: Symphony No.3 in E flat, Op.55, "Eroica"
Deutsche Kammerphilharmonie Bremen
Paavo Jarvi, dir.
0:01 I. Allegro con brio
16:00 II. Marcia funebre: Adagio assai
28:52 III. Scherzo: Allegro vivace - Trio
35:26 IV. Finale: Allegro molto - Poco andante - Presto
My favorite interpretation of the Eroica. Jarvi is just about the only conductor I've found on TH-cam who gives the piece the brisk tempi that I think are crucial in order to convey the energy and urgency of the piece. ESPECIALLY in the glorious third movement - I find I'm no longer satisfied unless the third movement is played at least this tempo. Absolutely phenomenal.
Not just the tempi. It's the idea of the internal rhythms...the stressed hemiolas, the inner voices.
Charles Cornner Yes, but overall, the music has to be fast enough to bring out all of Beethoven’s what I call (random brilliance) where you never know what’s next.
he has a sense of tempo for each movement and not just here, see his recording of Saint-Saens organ symphony...a marvelous interpretation of that work.
100% best Eroica, and I've heard hundreds including as a cellist myself...
Exactly. Even the 2nd movement. It’s a funeral (March) so it’s the perfect tempo here.
Crazy good interpretation obviously. Might even be the best. But the production values of the video itself is also very impressive. I don't think I've ever seen a symphony shot on film this well. Perfect (and musically informed) close-ups. Just enough conductor shots. Incredible work.
This rendition really captures those amazing ideas and quick musical intellect that Beethoven had overflowing in his mind.
No matter how many times you may have heard the Eroica, this one is like hearing (and seeing) it for the first time. Congratulations to all concerned!
Correct. You always pick up on something new.
The Finale starts at 34:25.
Now THIS is what a modern day orchestra should sound like! Brings tears to my eyes.
Yes
Yes again
me too.
I often get emotionally overwhelmed by the intensity of the development section. It is almost like Beethoven captured God holding man accountable and thus pointing out the incredible suffering of humanity by the hands of mankind and demanding an answer.
The best beethoven cycle and the best eroica, from Jarvi and DKB
Absolutely true
It's floating in outer space...how on earth haven't people realized this is out of this world yet? The whole cycle, yes! But even #3 alone...the second mov is outrageously brilliant. The tempo...the timpani...the whole damn thing!!!!! I liken Jarvi as the newer Kleiber. Both just "get it" and his skills in conveying to the orchestra are similar.
Forever grateful 🙏
That touch of "Quartet" in the Finale is very awesome
Agree! @35:47 I wonder in which edition of this work it appears.
Beethoven+ Jarvi+ DKB = Soulgasm
jarvi know every note, who is supposed to be playing that note, and looks directly at each and every musician as he conducts. that kind of attention to and respect for your musicians will produce a stellar performance almost every time.
This symphony was first performed in Vienna around 1804 in a small room in front of noble dignitaries. Joseph Haydn heard about the casual premier of this symphony and arrived just as the 4th movement was beginning. He knew right away that Beethovan's style was different and unique. He didn't necessarily like it and actually called it "quite noisy", but he knew that the time had come for change and evolution of orchestral music and he accepted it. He stated that "from this day forward, marks a new beginning".
Source?
Riley Lovendale
Watch the Movie "Eroica" here on YT. It's all spelled out historically and the actors did tremendous job in the movie.
+David Lis Papa Haydn was old enough to live out the maxim, Good. Better. Best. Bested.
David Lis exactly! I watched that, and they were amazing actors. They really gave an idea to what the real first rehearsal was like in real life. Now of course in all Beethoven movies everything that happens is stuff that really happened when he was alive so they are very realistic.
Leonore Beethovens
Wonderful violoncellist at 38:20 and on :D
Great perfomance as well, beautiful ideas from Jaarvi.
I’ve never been able to decide if I like this more than Beethoven’s 6th or 7th and that’s okay because I have time to listen to all of them every day. I’m so glad.
The camera work on this video is gorgeous.
GREATEST PERFORMANCE OF EROICA I HAVE HEARD SO FAR. CAPTURED ALL OF THE ENERGY!
Of course after the great karajan
It is great
@@jamasob Well, but Karajan was to soft
The story of Beethoven tearing up the dedication to Napoleon Bonaparte in a rage upon learning that he had crowned himself Emperor may well be apocryphal, but it is clear that Beethoven never forgave Napoleon for doing it; though a more astute political observer might have noted that the French state over which the latter had presided for the previous five years was a republic in name only. Beethoven wouldn't have been the first or last man to have turned a blind eye to a supposed hero's failings until they could no longer be ignored.
I've long imagined that the funeral march in the second movement was for Napoleon himself.
Is that story apocryphal though? We still have the manuscript, which has a hole on the page where Napoleon's name was, because the composer's pen went through the paper as he was scribbling it out. Seems like some pretty ferocious scribbling.
Jarvi and the Deutsche Kammerphilharmonie Bremen, Beethoven himself would be proud
Thank you so much for uploading these Beethoven symphonies, as directed by Jarvi, and performed by DKB! These are among the finest works of music ever written, and they are played wonderfully here.
Un grand merci!
Je t'en prie :)
Bellissimo! Interpretazione stupenda; andamento più celere rispetto a tutte le altre interpretazioni che conosco e un senso dell'agogica e un gusto nell'esporre le frasi superlativo. Eccezionale maestro. Tra le migliori se non la migliore interpretazione che io abbia mai sentito.
Difficult to believe this came from a human mind !
RayReegs I know right! It’s just amazing how all of this was thought all up in Beethoven’s head! I take composing lessons and 8 have some really big pieces like this is mind for my future compositions!
👍
Agree
39 people declared themselves emperor and Beethoven tore up his dedication of this song to them.
Photography really focused upon what's going on inside the musicians and Jarvi rather than their fingerings... intriguing, I like this approach
Elviswooden heart
I cannot get enough of this video. The musicians in this orchestra play as if their lives depended on it. Just wonderful!
Beethoven the best
Such a majestic ending to this Symphony.
I trust you are now composing for the Angels, wherever you are.
My favorite Beethoven symphony! Genius masterpiece! I think, It's final - 4 part is the most nice work for orchestra!)) I like exactly this performance! Very good interpretation!
I agree with the other comments about this performance and he lets the musicians play naturally, not forced which maybe Beethoven intended it to be. Bravo again!!
Es ist ein Vergnügen hautnah dabei zu sein, Die Bremer gehören für mich zu den besten Orchestern Deutschlands, wobei Paavo Järvi einen großen Anteil daran hat.
wirklich sehr schön, mit viel Gefühl gespielt und super dirigiert, danke Isolde Höhne Grüässli von der Auslandschweizerin seit 1,5 Jahren am lago maggiore in bella italia lebend Verena Mäder
Beautiful tempo. Not dragging like many other versions.Thank you!
I found a fake plastic peach in my basement. That's relevant here, right?
When it comes to Beethoven symphony, Paavo Jarvi is the best
1st movement Tempo is perfect for me. it's not too fast!! beginning tempo is exactly 60.
No. It is not twice that. It's a three quarter beat and Beethoven asks for exactly that tempo. One beat per bar, 60 per minute. So every bar takes a second. And this is exactly what Järvi is conducting.
Great great maestro Jarvi! Wonderful orchestra!
jarvi, always magnificent. very fast playing, very talented group. beautiful music.
Bitte sehr. Dies Musik ist sehr spannend und interessant. Ich liebe das Musik von Beethoven.
The march and march-like parts are the best in this conduction. Well done horn gentlemen. Great!
It is my favorite❤️I love beethoven!
My too
With your permission, I will put the video on my phone
Better than Barenboim
@@tklogan111809 Racist.
There is no one quite like Beethoven. He had a style that was all his own. A top composer! This is a great orchestra too! Thank you for sharing...
Besides, what I meant with my comment is the following:
Historical knowledge is a kind of knowledge which should be respected and cultivated as such - never overrated or petrified.
When historicists affirm a prescriptive judgement (like you did by saying "he SHOULD") I always feel a little unconfortable. Historical knowledge of perf practice does NOT give the right of prescribing how things SHOULD sound like, thanks god! It's only a hypothesis about how things were.
The coda to the first movement is heaven, especially the cellos and basses towards the end.
Concordo, il tema principale aperto sul si bemolle con tre timbri diversi, uniti al crescendo, fanno di quel passaggio qualcosa di davvero titanico. Love Beethoven
Yeah, it's fantastic. Never heard it like that before.
-28:54 - is 3d part "Scherzo".
-34:26 - is final part.
45.33 PERFECT FOR ME
It is great to live in time of the Jarvis family on Earth
After 37:09 and till 37:54 - unreal magnificent and nice theme of this masterpiece!) But of course, all symphony is miracle!
I don't know how anyone can listen to this with those obnoxious commercial interruptions
The louder drum beating at the part that starts from about 21:50 feels fantastic and I wish they were even louder at least as alternative rendition.
Jarvi does this symphony like no other and his version is superior
buena ejecución, el director hizo buen contraste entre lo rápido del 1 mov. y lo lento del 2º., claridad del trío de cornos en el 3ª mov. Buena orquesta. Gracias por compartir este vídeo.
Intensive artistic feeling comunicates high-end intellectual power
Yes, yes, yes! Been looking hard for a video featuring the horn-call in the third movement so I can use it for a lecture on the instruments on the orchestra, and this, only this, has the daring energy and excitement and joy that I have been craving! Anything less feels like an offense to Beethoven's music.
I love concerts on video! This is up there with the Ninth Symphony from Berlin conducted by Bernstein right after the wall fell.
Excelente orquesta y magistralmente conducida por el maestro Jarvi , solo tengo una inconformidad por la forma del manejo de las cámaras en estos vídeos ya que los cambios tan rápidos que hacen al enfocar cada sección resultan incómodos para disfrutar visualmente de la orquesta, me parece que sería mejor dedicarle algunos segundos más a cada sección instrumental o hacer tomas donde se apreciarán más de una sección a la vez en lugar de hacer movimientos tan rápidos que no nos permite deleitarnos de la gran ejecución de los músicos.
I'd love to hear this crew doing the other 8. The winds sound good, and so does the brass. It wants a bit of weight in the bass, but it is so difficult to convey the parts well in this format. The work done here is quite respectable. Damn, that recap in the first movement, and that coda, what an astounding work of art! Bravo!!
There's a place toward the end of the first movement where Beethoven cycles quickly through a couple key changes... I'm guessing it's not a metaphor for changing channels on a TV or trying different settings on some other appliance, but can't shake the feeling that it's a metaphor/musical joke that would have been recognized as...something, by someone in Beethoven's day. Can anyone speak to this?
maybe Beethoven was not satisfied with the 3rd， so he created the 5th.
Brilliant!
なんかよくわからんけど、厨二病的なコメントが多い。「すごい」じゃだめなのかな?
The first and second movements are excellent.
В партитуре метроном-такт 60'. Четверть-180' Ярви немного не дотягивает.
Bravo!
It's really wonderful.
I love Paavo Jarvi
Nice to see complete pieces on the Tube by the DKB rather than the Berlin Phil charging alot to watch on their website
Beethoven's music was my "first love"- it is sometime powerful and gentle
8:03 ... holy moly, that's heavy
LeVilainCam just how Beethoven wanted it! Pound it out!!!
How it must be difficult to rethink and refresh the 200-year old Holy Graal of classical music. But Mr. Jarvi did it! I hear vastness of intellect in every phrase. Some decisions may sound even too alternative but overall it is a master's touch. Simply splendid.
Al director Paavo Jarvi le vi en los videos de música clásica en un avión de Lufhansa de Pekin a Franfurt ,dirigia la Novena de Beetowen......no se la pierdan.Aire fresco ,ni mejor ni peor, otra cosa , creo que fué lo mejor de mi viaje a China.
38:25 - 39:05 this passage will always be my favourite
Быстрый темп и легкая игра С БОЛЬШИМ КОЛИЧЕСТВОМ ПИАНО.
I really like his interpretation, the second movement was a little to fast for my taste, but i love how he modernized the trumpet line a bit that really stuck out to me.
Maestro Prodigy agreed! I’m glad he did that.
Ads between movements are an abomination!
Cierto, no es Brüggen, algo mejor que Brüggen, sí.
No sé que criterio utiliza Järvi usando solo trompetas naturales y contrabajos con cuerdas de tripa como toque "historicista", creo que debería ir más allá. En esta sinfonía debería haber usado trompas naturales ya que por aquél entonces, 1803 no se había inventado los pistones. El fagot también debería ser del modo barroco, los perfeccionamientos datan a partir de 1820-30. Por lo demás, es GENIAL! Saludos y buena Música!
i can hear the eq compressing, its kinda like love how most people hide their true feelings long enough to create a facade.
I love the string quartet in the 4th movement!
I must say, I do rather like this faster version.
This interpretation is more perfect, is better developed that the of Japan.
4th movement starts at 34:26
54 people have no soul.
What we do and what we think is right here.... OMG
The best I've heard. Amazing.
Happy 250th, Maestro!
This conductor conducts with his chii, among other things. 👌
Bravo! Sublime performance.🙏🏻
I luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuv it so beautiful
Els sforzantos de Paavo Järvi són ÚNICS.
La resta de batutes no posen sforzantos, escolta la versió de Dudamel i és una simfonia plana!
going to the IV movement like a boss B-]
An interesting interpretation of the piece on Jarvi's part... A little too staccato for me
Completely agree. This is still a very good performance, but it lacks the intensity of the earlier version (which I implore people to listen to!). In that recording, the music and musicians gain a life of their own, something impossible to describe but completely overwhelming. Made my hair stand on end.
I think Jarvi and the DKB have become more legato in their playing, and seem to use more rubato - perhaps that is part of why this performance is less thrilling.
Indeed. The other version (2006 I believe) is better, brisker, more transparent, although this performance is still very good.
Honeck also excellent, apart from the finale.
Nice performance. The leaner orchestra fits the piece.
Heidegger's playing first violin.
人類愛なるものを感じる瞬間があるとするならば、それはベートーベンを聴いている時に他ならない。バッハという耽美的拘泥からの偉大なる脱却である。
Final of Marcia Funebre really killed me.
Bravooooooooo
Simply great! Remembers me of Carlos Kleiber style!
Beethoven's favorite until the Ninth.
Danke! ;-)
まさに疾風迅雷！ こんな「英雄」聴いたことない！。でもこのヤルヴィのアタックに大いなる拍手を送りたい。ブラボ！ヤルヴィ。