@DoctorMike I send you a big hug for you also for dog bear and Roxy and when are you going to make a video again with bear, Roxy, your nephews and your sister You know I have you as my cell phone wallpaper and I tell you a secret you are my crush Secretly no oneknows And congratulations on your new puppy. ribbie dog. 🤓
Yeah it’s necessary for understand English languages otherwise we Could not get it as a foreigner what are you saying.....haha still I am saying wrong grammatical rules..
I can tell you, as a psychologist, there are numerous studies indicating that swearing does indeed increase pain tolerance. (Stephens, Et. al. 2009, Stephens Et. al. 2011, Robertson 2020, etc.)
@@VonSpyder yeah like I've heard so many times as someone who did martial arts that the point of exclamatives and yelling out while doing moves is that it makes you more focused and releases some of the tension, so i don't get that whole "you should say nice things" spiel that he said because like, you still need to release that tension caused by the pain somehow, and yes releasing tension is a way to control stress, which does modulate pain
and if i had to give a hypothesis, the adrenaline rush from saying "naughty" words combined with being a bigger distraction is what results in the pain relief.
As someone whos been through a hella lot of pain via competetive sports and being a moron growing up, swearing like a sailor works better than any over the counter pain med.
The thing about Mythbusters is that they test the actual plausibility of the myth first, then they ramp it up and check how far they have to go for the myth to actually be true. If the myth is that when you pee on an electric fence, you get a burned pp and they find that's not true, then they ramp it up and hook an array of 25 microwave transformers to the fence to see if they could actually get the pp to burn. I don't remember the sunscreen episode but I reckon what we saw was the "can we actually make it happen" stage of that experiment.
Yes, dr mike did not state that he watched the whole episode of each myth. He only showed small clips. It does not give all the information for each myth. I love dr Mike’s channel.
Good point! Like the AED test they probably also thought "Well let's crank up the voltage and place the pedals one centimeter from each other to get some result".
yeah I remember that being a thing cause soem myths were busted within like seconds. depending on how far they would have to go to make it happen also determined whether they said plausible or just strait up busted cause though some scenarios came up as unlikely there was a chance they COULD happen and that was all a myth needed to be plausable. like with the bra. its unlikely that the paddles would touch the underwire of a bra but in very rare circumstances it COULD happen.
Oh Dr. Mike. Most of the time when they say it's "plausible" is more of an "it can happen under a specific set of conditions". Loved this show growing up.
Adding to this, some myths, like with the mirror scene from The Mummy, have it Plausible but ludicrous, or Confirming a myth despite how impractical it actually is. For the Defibrillator myths, the Mythbusters essentially took a massive "what if" in the story because if there is any nugget of result that is actually connected to the myth itself, then it is plausible or busted at best.
@@marallenrondez2606 Yeah, besides, if it's a woman having a heart attack, it's the same as men. I'm sorry if it's your favorite bra or suit, it will end up cut, ripped or both. I need the space to put the patches properly.
@@SuiLagadema That's very true, the good Samaritan act is there in the event that someone tries to sue ya fer "Exposing" them, like, what, was I supposed to let ya die? Ya didn't have an DNR, so no, I wasn't.
@@CeirusAvalon the whole DNR thing is bogus to me anyway, what responder or specialist, or average joe is gonna check for a DNR when they see someone on the verge of dying? your mind is literally "I gotta try an save this person" and goes tunnel vision into that thought.
ER doc here. I had a patient who covered himself in bug spray while working outside and, shortly thereafter, ignited a bonfire. He had enough residual wet spray and was close enough that he caught fire and had about 30% TBSA burns. The fire risk with propellant spray is legit.
The perfect fringe case that Dr. Mike chooses to ignore. It's aaaaall a part of science. Hence why scientific research will never be fully complete and perfect and why we should have an open mind in all things science. Fringe cases will ALWAYS exist.
My job involves treating patients with problems you just can't make up. That said, my goal is not to bag on Dr. Mike, as he does a lot of good with education. My goal is to supplement his educational efforts with a different perspective based on my unique experiences working in the ER, which is just vastly different from his practice as a Family med doc. It's all good.
You should have Adam on your podcast to talk about these myths! That said, Adam has also gone on record to clarify that, while they did conduct their experiments as scientific as possible, they clearly don't have the time to do proper studies for concrete answers. Their "busted" and "confirmed" results are strictly if the topic is possible. Plus, whenever a myth is busted, they go all out to see if they can get the result they want by any means necessary - blowing stuff up is totally part of the entertainment factor lol 😂
>You should have Adam on your podcast to talk about these myths! That and his SFX background. there are plenty of toxic fumes in the materials used for the practical SFX (he was one of the ILM modellers in the shop, which many of the cast members are also from.)
Adam Savage has gone on record many times saying that the Mythbusters stand by the methodology behind how they conducted their tests but NOT the results. They always acknowledged that their sample sizes were too small to draw concrete conclusions from them. They were always very good at employing proper skepticism.
The whole show was proof-of-concept. Not about accuracy or finality. I.E. if someone wanted to do a multiyear peer-reviewed study with a hugely significant sample size, they are more than welcome to do so and prove the MBs wrong.
Big part of why they used plausible so liberally, if they can create circumstances with their limited test run and scenarios in which something close to the myth happened, then it happening over and over again in the real world means much better odds of it occurring at least once naturally.
His takes on this reaction video were just bad all around. Not only is he clearly not watching the full context of the episodes (or worse, make these bad takes on purpose because of how the video was edited to earn more clicks), he is also failing to give an ounce of credit to the team that they tried their best with the time, budget, and small sample sizes they use for entertainment television. Pig thing actually could happen, which i extrapolated upon in my own post. However short but possible answer is just a common human error such as the following: 4th of July > had too many beers (is drunk)>starts cooking> reapplies sunscreen before flipping meat on grill> doesn't give time to dry, flame is too high and presto... the drunk person's arm catches fire... (dumber things have happened to people in the past, that's not unrealistic in the slightest. Drunk people have been hurt much worse for much less than that.) The swearing thing has some studies behind them... so enough said on that... it's fair for myth-busters to come to the conclusion they did. They're not medical professionals. Touching bra wire... well that's also vaguely possible if the right measures aren't taken... if you're in an emergency and a woman is wearing an old worn-out bra with an exposed wire and you touch that wire with an electrical current in a way that connects it like shown in the video, then yeah it's going to spark... but Mike's a guy and I don't expect him to have any understanding of how long a woman might wear out a bra for, but underwires in bras can become exposed over time. Fabric wears, tears, stretches, and the wire sometimes pokes out a little... I'm not saying it's a common thing.. I'm just saying in an emergency situation, with a bunch of non-medical experts who don't have the right placement of the defibrillator, or worse leave clothing on when doing so, bad things are going to happen and people could realistically make accidents to cause a spark of a fire on a bra... Failing all of the above though, it's a show about busting myths... not running complicated, large, double blind scientific studies with peer review... and thus, his standards are just genuinely way too harsh this time around.
Mythbusters generally started with a myth that they would test and then slowly work towards more ridiculous circumstances to see if the strangest possible iteration is plausible. So some of the scene out of context will look really stupid.
@sogwatchman for instance tested thr myth they don't teach the 10 & 12 hand positions for driving anymore because the airbag can blow your thumbs off. First test resulted in some small cuts but nothing serious. So they ran it again with the thumbs extended, laceration but still intact. So they went to the ridiculous the hands in the 🖖 position gripping the wheel between the middle fingers. Deep laceration but it didn't get blown off. But who drives like that?
They did indeed go from the sublime to the ridiculous to see if, IN ANY MANNER, they could see if there was one iota of truth to a myth. That's why they had one of three outcomes: Confirmed, Busted, or Plausible. The last being if there was there was any possibility that the myth COULD be true.
Tbf the sun screen myth could totally be a kid. Kid's are f*cking stupid, and I could totally see a hyper kid getting doused by mom before darting off to keeping playing or whatever. Runs past an open flame like a fire ring or reaches over a candle on a birthday cake or something, and boom kid is suddenly on fire and screaming. People by and large should know not to spray silly string near flames and yet there's literally hundreds of videos of it happening. Aerosol sun screen is probably the less likely version for a similar scenario, and the pig grill thing is just testing the most extreme of perfect circumstances, which while rare are still possible. Out of context the show looks stupid especially to Mike who already understands that aerosol sunscreen has flammable propellants. But I guarantee that if you stopped and interviewed the average beach goer they would never think that their sunscreen is flammable until you pointed out the propellant. Could easily see a mom spraying her kid down while managing a billion other things and not anticipating that she's making her kid flammable for a handful of seconds until the propellants evaporate.
Adam has confirmed this on his podcast, but they generally did NOT have camera people on "site", they usually were in the next room so they didn't bias anything.
@@xmaracxit really wasn’t, I think you’re only thinking that because you like mythbuster so you’re being more sensitive than normal to what he’s saying. He was being pretty normal here Also he was completely right about how they were being ridiculous and kind of forced it to be true with the bra wire, by changing the conditions to something that wouldn’t happen. You’re not supposed to put the pads on over clothes
I don't know if this nuance is being missed, but Myth Busters often did a "busting the myth" segment, and then they did a "trying our damndest to make it happen" segment, which was great fun to watch. I suspect that some of the latter were included in this review 🤣
The thing to remember about these, especially the last one, is it's not about "Is this likely to happen?" It's all about "could this ever happen?" And of course, because television and ratings, then they ramp it up to "What does it take to make this happen?"
I think one of the best examples being the exploding water heater. They showed that water heaters have multiple fail safes that ensure they do not explode. But, if you disable every safety measure, seal it tight, and crank up the pressure, they can in fact launch like a freaking rocket right through your house and out the roof.
@@chrishubbard64 Which is plausible to happen in some cases. Who says that an old boiler, badly maintained and amateurishly patched up in an old house, WOULDN'T create exactly those circumstances. Its such fringe cases that spawn Myths.
@chrishubbard64 exactly, and a woman having sone of her underwire worn through her bra is very very plausible, I've had it happen to me a few times. Bras are expensive. And the thing to remember is, people do some dumb stuff and don't always check with others if they did too. Most major industrial accidents are like "this shouldn't have happened, but this precaution was broken while this precaution was down for maintenance and this precaution wasn't taken seriously, and this precaution had the corners cut to save money, etc, and the combination leads to the disaster.
@@viirinsoftworks1304 do you remember the blonde "punk" girl who substituted Carry for a few episodes because she has just come into labor? Well , she is also not alive.
To be fair, while I haven't seen the episode with the sunscreen, since they usually test *myths*, this might have been a simple case of "We heard a rumor that someone was BBQing in their backyard, used spray-on sunscreen and suddenly caught on fire". In this case, their setup seems reasonable since it tries to recreate a possible (however unlikely) scenario in which someone might end up "on fire because of sunscreen". They're not claiming "sunscreen is a highly flammable substance", they're just checking if it's theoretically possible that this could have happened to someone under these conditions.
IIRC, they were testing the scenario of dad by the grill, re-upping sunscreen and sort of forgetting their time and place and spraying the sunscreen next to the grill.
They normally tried the expected scenario and then if that doesn't work they would go to giving it the best possible scenario they can for the myth to be even remotely plausible.
@@darrowgoff3256 Yeah, like with the defibrillator. They tested the standard scenario (basically proving an arc to be impossible), but then moved onto the extremes of "what if" an inexperienced EMT or someone not paying attention slapped the paddles directly against the exposed metal. Then yes, it is /technically/ plausible even if it requires a very specific set of circumstances. Dr Mike in this episode seems a little....bitter. They aren't doing peer-reviewed studies under perfect lab conditions with thousands of subject participants. They are physicists/builders/mathematicians doing proof-of-concept experiments as best they can from a warehouse. Even if that means trying to recreate the most specific set of circumstances to 'prove' the possibility of a myth.
Agree, grabbing bits of the show without the whole context isn't fair. They always took the episode to the "too the max" conditions. Those cuts didn't represent the whole episode accurately.
@@samfisher6606 Yes! Also, part of what they had to test was if the sunscreen which was applied still contained enough off-gassing propellant to be highly flammable. Which isn't a given. They couldn't even consistently get a trail of gasoline to light when they tested that as part of a later myth because it wasn't evaporating quickly enough. And the thing about clothing being flammable is a thing that is already recognized as a danger (at least with synthetic fibers, most natural fibers are self-extinguishing). You shouldn't wear loose clothing near an open flame. They also were doing a similar thing with the elevator one. They had a specific, (oddly, especially for them) well-documented story that they were testing if the jump was what saved the guy. They ended up determining that it was some combination of safety mechanisms the elevator had.
@@thomasfplm It really shouldn't be hard to reasonably summarize the myth with cuts from each episode without losing the context. Key points from the opening intro for the particular myth, the key moments during the tests and a proper cut of the discussion at the end before deciding how to call the myth. They did that with first couple of myths, but it seemed like Dr Mike's editing crew just presented the experiment methodology completely void of those other two context clues for all the other ones, and with nothing at all about their concluding remarks. It's no wonder it seemed unscientific to him when they're just jumping into random tests for what seems like generic claims.
@@Wolf_man789 I normally like Dr Mike's videos, but this one was a miss. He did not watch any full episodes and so he did not have the necessary context to properly criticize their methods and conclusions. I'm not sure what the problem is with pointing that out. Dr. Mike does so himself all the time -- calling out others (rightfully so) for reaching conclusions without first doing proper research.
Ok then this seems like a misunderstanding I don’t see how he’s wrong but clearly you do which is okay because everyone has opinions now let’s both be the bigger person and stop arguing
I'm a little confused. Dr.Mike were you watching youtube clips of these test or the original full episodes. They Explain everything in the episodes, plus when it came to the ice test they did it on a wider selection of people. Everything you said in your video is accurate but the original show already explained everything.
Yeah, I remember they also specifically said in that episode that women who've been through labour had a much higher pain tolerance and used them as a separate group as well. it's a fascinating episode.
And the MythBusters used a larger sample size of volunteers, not just their own team, but that was left out of the video that Mike watched. They also did research at a pain center beforehand if I remember, but that was left out too.
Fun fact; This episode of MythBusters is actually based on that research. Keele University conducted this experiment in 2009. The MythBusters episode aired in 2010 and tried to duplicate the experiment. However, if you read the research (and others) it is expressed that it's only effective for some people, and it's also only effective for those who swear in moderation. Furthermore, the hypothesis on why cursing is effective is based on stress-induced analgesia (your fight or flight response) by triggering the release of adrenalin (something not everyone can do on command with curse words. It is also noteworthy that adrenaline has other effects such as increasing heart rate and blood flow, which may make a painful situation worse). Dr. Mike is correct. The experiment done at MythBusters wasn't valid (but the original was) and the conclusion found it's not the words themselves, it's your correlation to those words. He is also right that both hypnosis and meditation are research supported ways for some people to reduce pain, so if you do curse often you can try those methods.
@@ceu160193 My guess is it's probably a result of humans having evolved social behaviors. We tend to travel in groups, so there's value in screaming and letting other people know that you're hurt, and/or that there's something in the area that can hurt them. I'd imagine that we evolved an impulse to scream for that very reason, and thus screaming obscenities you'd only hear when when someone is hurt fulfills that impulse, reducing the stress of the pain. You could probably find similar behavior in monkeys or any other animal social animal that screams in response to pain or threats. Though I'm not sure how you could appropriately study that king of thing, especially in an ethical manner.
This is what the Mythbusters do. They test the myth in regular conditions and if it doesn't work, they make the conditions more extreme to see what it would take to actually have the result that the myth implies. Often times they have to amp the extreme conditions to totally ridiculous levels to actually achieve this, and that was the case with the sunscreen and the pig.
Like the water heater rocket myth. I think under regular conditions they busted that myth. But then they ramped it up by disabling every safety feature and showed that yes, under these highly unlikely circumstances, a water heater could turn into a rocket and shoot right through your house. I forget if they fully confirmed or busted the myth. It's been a while since I've seen it.
The myth busters were always candid about the absurdity of some of the scenarios. They’d typically try to bust/confirm the most reasonable take on the myth, then crank it up to an absurd level just for fun.
Mythbusters is a show that shows if a myth is plausible under extreme conditions that could theoretically possible. There are a lot of procedures and such that make things as sound as possible for a small TV show.
Mike should have reacted to the flu fiction episode where they experimented with different sneezing covering techniques. It was mythbusters that got sneezing into the elbow to be in people’s minds. Also their one on how far snot can spread and why being responsible will help prevent others being sick. Those episodes are pre COVID too
I think of that episode often and the episode where they see how much uh, waste matter.. accumulates on the tooth brush when a toilet is flushed.🤣 They’re the reason why I put my toilet lid down when I flush and I keep my toothbrush in the medicine cabinet 🤣☠️. Also, I’m one of the rare people who sneezes/ coughs into my shirt instead of my elbow. I feel like doing it into my shirt catches more of the “spray” vs sneezing into my arm. Although yes, many people are taught at a very young age to cover their coughs our sneezes, I can tell you many people as children and adults DO NOT follow those rules. Even after COVID.☠️ Yall don’t even want to know how many people I catch leaving the bathroom not washing their hands 😭☠️🤢🤮.
The best part about Mythbusters is that it isn't a killjoy show. If a myth is busted, they don't just go 'well, that's that'. They go 'yeah, it won't happen under normal circumstances, but is it possible to make it happen?'
For the defibrillator one: they did try the nipple piercings later in the episode, but results were essentially the same: when placed right no spark, no burns. When placed directly on the metal, you get a small burn.
Agree. At that point in the episode they moved onto the "what would it take to get the result" testing phase. Out of full context. Kari said plausible, not confirmed.
The myth they were busting was that people have been burned by bra wires and nipple piercings when the were being shocked with a defibrillator. I think their experiment showed that that was extremely unlikely to happen. They should have said the myth was busted, not plausible. The only think they showed as being plausible was that metal gets hot when you run electricity through it.
@billnicholson3173 They only used Busted when the myth was impossible, not just implausible. That's why most of these examples were Plausible instead, because even though the circumstances are EXTREMELY unlikely to occur in the wild, humans are strange and unpredictable (Untold Stories of the ER and Sex Sent Me to the ER taught me that...) so nothing was completely ruled Busted if they got the myth to work even under very specific circumstances.
@@DreamingBackToThis "They only used Busted when the myth was impossible, not just implausible. That's why most of these examples were Plausible" So by your own words you are saying that the called things plausible when they were actually implausible.
@billnicholson3173 I mean, if we want to argue vocabulary, sure. But the actual point is that they didn't USE Implausible as a ruling on the show. The myth was either 100% Busted meaning completely impossible no matter what they tried to do to make it happen, 100% Confirmed meaning they could recreate it under the conditions in the original myth, or Plausible meaning - much like the defibrillator burning skin or the sunscreen catching someone on fire - it could only happen under VERY specific circumstances. Would Implausible But Possible be better? Yes, probably, but that's not the vocabulary they used.
A lot of these made far more sense if you don't cut out the actual myth they were testing. I believe the sunscreen one had the person in the story catching fire after reapplying sunscreen by the grill. So, yeah, they needed to see which sunscreens might be flammable, then see if the fire spread.
In the case he showed, I think it was the propellant that was flammable rather than the actual sunscreen. You can get a similar flareup with canola spray (like Pam), which many, including myself, use to make the food stick to the rack less.
@@HariSeldon913 Yeah, but since you're spraying Pam away from yourself and not ONTO yourself, it's less likely you'd actually catch fire. The question was never "what might cause a flare over a grill?" Everyone knows aerosol cans are flammable, but if you're dumb enough to spray a ton of aerosolized sunscreen towards your body over an open flame (or even heavily cover yourself and then immediately approach an open flame, as with the pig) then the possibility exists the fire can spread to your body and set you on fire.
I'm glad that he's still around and as passionate as ever, was such a huge fan of him in my teens, now I'm nearing 30 and still a big fan! Crazy to think I've watched him for half my life 😊
This! I think Mike needs to get Adam on the podcast to talk about balancing entertainment with the scientific method... and maybe the dangers of reacting to a clip taken out of its original context.
Adam has some pretty interesting/wild medical stories (for one, he's an outspoken hearing aid advocate, having a congenital condition). I do think it'd be an interesting discussion. That said, it seems like the podcast leans toward controversial guests, and I think Adam would be the exact opposite of that.
With the bra myth, Mike, I don't know how familiar you are with the Mythbusters concept, but they do two stages: First, they test to see if the common story of a myth is plausible - not like, but possible. And then they also test to see what it would take to get the results, no matter how absurd. The bra thing, they even said in this clip, they were creating a supremely unlikely set of circumstances just to see of they could duplicate the results. So the "plausible" determination wasn't saying it was likely to happen, but that it COULD happen is exceptional circumstances. Edited to add: All of the above applies to the flammable sunscreen. They weren't saying it was going to be a common outcome, they were testing what it would take to duplicate the results.
This is one of the few rare times I didn’t enjoy the video, solely because i don’t think mike got the context of the myths in question… which actually made me sad since I grew up with mythbusters, they and bill nye and a few others got me into science :3
Unfortunately, this tends to happen a lot with his "reacts" videos, where he's not given enough context to understand what's really going on in the clips he's shown. For example, I remember where he reacted to the Scrubs rabies episode, and rather missed much of the point of the episode because he didn't get who Jill Tracy was and what the background was between her and JD,.
10:50 I have always thought it was not the swearing itself but the screaming that helps you. It seems to be pretty established among climbers. I think it English it is called "screaming point" or something like that. It might be another myth, of course... But surely I would focus on the "getting all your air out" as a coping mechanism. That would be interesting.
8:20 if you ever in an elevator and it starts to freefall, you’re supposed to lay on your back and it’s very unlikely that elevator is gonna be freefalling because I’m pretty sure there’s like five safety locks that’s gonna have to pass
For the defibrillator one: they did try the nipple piercings later in the episode, but results were essentially the same: when placed right no spark, no burns. When placed directly on the metal, you get a small burn..
Actually there are studies that suggests that swearing can sometimes increase pain tolerance by like 1/3. And the mythbusters motto was "if it's worth doing, it's worth overdoing" so that's why the pig got covered in flammable liquid whilst being cm away from a naked flame. I loved Mythbusters when I was a teenager. (R.I.P Grant).
@jamiefrontiera1671 as far as I know, realising dopamine can reduce pain/provide some pain relief. However I don't know enough about it to be 100% sure.
The mythbusters are not necessarily trying to just be scientific. Not all myths are logical. They are trying to see if a myth has any basis in reality and if so, under what circumstances might it be true. They try to bust, confirm (or find plausible) a myth under the stated or known conditions, and if they can’t confirm under those conditions they will exceed the conditions to see if there are any conditions under which the myth is plausible. It was a great, fun show!
Dr. Mike, first thing, the myths are not things the Mythbusters believe, iirc all those myths were submissions by audience members or written by production from anecdotes and all. The point of the show was to prove or disprove these myths, as stupid as they may sound, to the audience, on TV, to dispel misinformation being told in the way of those wives' tales you always hear. Second, Adam and Jamie do try to control for a lot of variables, like for example camera crew not interfering with the experiments, give them some credit, they're engineers iirc. Third, when myths that sound outrageous but fun don't work out, these two always try to ramp it up to see if there's any way that myth could ever be true, like for example I think there was one about cars exploding upon impact due to the gasoline in the tank that they proved that on normal circumstances it'd not be feasible, but they crafted a scenario that would somehow cause that to happen, and it was something like 200 mph car with leaking gasoline that would cause that to happen. So, in summary, ofc the sunscreen myth is bullshit, but I've heard people say that myth proudly to justify shaming me for using sunscreen "unnecessarily", and thus the Mythbusters show that no, in normal circumstances, you won't catch on fire from putting on sunscreen, only if something as stupid as someone spraying aerosol sunscreen next to an open flame happened that would be the case.
Grant Imahara was an electrical engineer, but none of the other team members were (from the original crew). Jamie has a degree in Russian Literature IIRC, and of course now I think all of them probably have a pile of honorary degrees. This show has probably done more for getting people into STEM than anyone on TV since Sagan.
The point of Myth Busters was for them to try and get the myth to happen regardless of circumstance. They would usually bust a myth and then try to replicate super humanly and it was great entertainment.
I watched a lot of the show when it was new. I enjoyed it for the wacky stuff they did, but their methods were always too unreliable for me to take seriously, and there were a few times where I found myself thinking "I hope no one takes this seriously and thinks they can/can't do something based on this show, alone."
@@Galiant2010 Then you also missed the point. They almost always start with the myth as stated (or as it is most likely to actually happen) and then ramp it up to an extreme to see if it's possible in a real world setting, and then if they still haven't gotten the result, ramp it up to an absurd level to see if the stated result is even possible.
I feel like Mike underestimates just how dumb/careless people can be. Putting AED pads on wrong is 100% something that can happen and people let their clothes get worn all the time, especially women and their favorite bras. I've seen, with my own eyes not on video, someone apply spray on sunscreen while having a lit cigarette and about as close to an open flame as the mannequin was to the grill. People in those situations aren't doing it on purpose but they will still do dumb stuff like that. Think of all the warnings on products; each one is there because someone somewhere did the thing they are warning you about. There was a trend a while back of putting flour in a blow dryer. A highly flammable substance when aerosolized in a device that will not only aerosolize it but also gets hot enough to ignite the dust. Agent K said it in Men in Black "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky animals..."
Indeed, the possibility of accidentally touching the edge of a bra seems quite plausible to me. Or just not thinking that it would make any difference.
I think that episode predates the widespread use of AEDs. Back then it was mostly still this big non-automated cart with the two irons they rub together to spread the lube thing and put on your chest.
Yeah, when a myth is plausible it means that they got it to work under a very specific but possible set of circumstances. An exposed under wire and someone touching it with a defibrillator is perfectly possible but possibly rare enough to not fully confirm the myth.
Embarrassingly so. Whoever showed him these clips left out all of the surrounding research and explanations, and the entire group of volunteers that were tested for the swearing myth. This was not a good video.
What is the point of mythbusters if not entertainment mixed in with some crude science experiments? This is a reaction video and he was simply commenting at the crudeness of the experiments and having fun. I think he did get it even though he was only seeing very limited clips.
Yeah this is how I felt. Seems like Dr. M didn't watch Myth Busters, which is fine. But this is a really poor selection of clips. I get that they have limited time and this is just a reaction video. But they always qualify on the show when they're going beyond what would likely ever happen and showing an extreme 0.0001% chance. I feel like that should have been explained, lol.
4:49 there was one case where an underwire bra did catch on fire during a defibrillation, but that was over 30 years ago when they used 600 joules of energy, twice as much as they do now.
I also have to wonder if they would even leave the bra on! About seventeen years ago now, my mom had a heart attack and unfortunately passed away, but the paramedics had cut/taken her shirt off so I got shy and waited in the other room. I don't think they would leave any fabric or metal in the way of saving a life!
Something tells me Dr Mike didn't understand what they were trying to do with the show. I mean I know it's silly and no one should ever consider Mythbusters science before entertainment, but the way this was edited to make it look like they were trying be a bunch of knuckleheads blowing stuff up rather than accommodating the crazy concepts that some people believe makes me wonder what else he is misrepresenting for that sweet sweet youtube algorithm. But hey, here I am making a comment so we'll done doc.
I'm surprised Mike hasn't learned of the multiple studies relating swearing to a decrease in pain. Especially in some things like martial arts you may be taught to exclaim or yell in order to be more focused and release tension and stiffness.
This brought back so many memories! And I watched every one of the episodes that you have featured here. The one about cursing, I think it’s more to the fact of if you are prone to cursing when things hurt, it may help you cope with the pain better. if you have to consciously sensor yourself. If you’re someone who does not curse, suddenly cursing is not gonna help.
Philologist here. Swearing is actually very often stored in the emotional part of the brain and not the language part. So swearing has to be natural to do anything, and then it's linked to emotions. That's why people with dementia usually can still swear even if they have aphasia (or that's what they taught us at the uni). To actually have any kind of effect on fighting pain, they would have to actually SWEAR swear, not use euphemisms, because it's the hardcore swearwords that are stored in our emotional center (like saying "ouch" or whatever language equivalent may there be for you) and not the euphemisms. Pretty fascinating stuff and, as far as I can tell, still not debunked from when I was studying :D
Unless you pre conditioned yourself to euphemisms. Because it's still not the words but their useage that makes them effective. I personally conditioned myself to curse "Alderaan" from pain/shock/suprise. Which people might look at me weird for, but they do that anyways, so I'll prefer to not actually curse by reflex in front of children. (Alderaan is the first planet destroyed by the first death star in Star Wars)
@@Robin93k Yes, absolutely, self-conditioning is the key here! Like you've said, if you condition yourself to swear with euphemisms, they will get coded into your brain to be used as such. I use some in a similar manner and YES also because I don't want anything to slip in front of kids. And Alderaan is such a great idea! It even sounds sophisticated when used in this way :D (As in, like a sophisticated curse)
I'm not sure if you've ever watched Mythbusters, but when they find something doesn't work, they will go to the extremes to find even the smallest, most unlikely cases where it might replicate the myth-like with the sunscreen-and still say it's Busted. The bra one with the paddle really should've been a Busted as well.
Hey Mike. Avid fan of Mythbusters here. I think what any person with common sense sees with the sunscreen test is that unless you had a moment of shear stupidity and sprayed yourself with an aerosol while next to an open flame, no your sunscreen doesn't make you more or less likely to catch yourself on fire.
I would argue you could be applying sunscreen while smoking a cigarette and catch fire that way but it's not necessarily the sunscreen and included chemical but the aerosol propellant.
It's so classic Mike that he sees Mythbusters not as a TV show about trying to recreate odd situations and see if they work, but as real world scientists gathering hard evidence for actual use. Besides, Mythbusters got myself and many others interested in science, pick your targets carefully Mike :P
hes not targeting anything lol hes just reacting to things people request. the whole point of his reactions is that he looks at it from a very "serious" standpoint as a doctor. also how is a person who never watched this supposed to know the full context of the show and the hosts intentions?
Complaining about their methodology, especially sample sizes, is just kind of silly. This is a television show. They can't afford, or have the time, to do a 5 year study with hundreds of test subjects for a single episode.
XKCD did a comic just for Mike here, number 397, titled "unscientific". One is complaining about how Mythbusters is not scientific, saying "they fail at basic rigor" and the response was this: "Ideas are tested by experiment. That is the _core_ of science. Everything else is bookkeeping. "By teaching people to hold their beliefs up to experiment, Mythbusters is doing more to drag humanity out of the unscientific darkness than a thousand lessons in rigor. "Show them some love."
Adam even says during the show at some point (I'm possibly paraphrasing here): "remember kids, the difference between dicking around and science is writing it down!" The point of the show was always about having fun, doing baseline proof-of-concept experiments, and taking things to the extreme. Never about fully rigorous, irrefutable, data-gathering studies.
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The Mythbusters never claimed to be scientific. Their general M.O. was to start by just setting the myth up as a reasonable person would and seeing if it worked as advertised (confirmed) or not, if it didn't work they'd go back and modify the conditions of the test to see if there was any possibility that it could potentially happen if the circumstances were right. If they were able to make it happen with that tweaking they'd declare it "plausible". as in if every goes exactly right it could happen, if they couldn't make it go they'd call it busted (except in rare cases where they couldn't reproduce it but had documented evidence of it happening, then they'd call it plausible). So for the defibrillator one they went to the fact they had to go through so much to make it work means they only called it Plausible, because it COULD happen, but 99% of the time it won't. They also aren't looking for the why, so for the cursing one they flagged it as confirmed because it did help, so it does what it says. They don't claim to know *why* it works, what specific factor causes it, but cursing did consistently help, so there's something there. The Pig was another one they flagged as "plausible". In the full myth they tested the pig at various times after application and various distances from the grill, but ultimately confirmed that if you dosed yourself with an alcohol based sunscreen and reached over the grill within 5 seconds you could catch yourself on fire. Not impossible so can't be completely busted, but so unlikely they can't really call it confirmed, so plausible.
That's the issue with most react channels, they're given out of context snippets but make conclusions from it. It's all for entertainment but a but annoying ngl
7:55 Spreading out on the floor as much as possible is excactly what you're supposed to do. It spreads out the energy as much as possible. Standing up would probably also be a good idea, it would probably break your legs, and maybe even more, but after all you're only trying to survive, not survive unscathed.
Came here to comment the same thing. My dad and grandpa are elevator mechanics so grew up around them but I’m terrified of man made heights specially. If you jump you’ll break your neck or cave your head in. Laying down helps displace weight as well as limits the movement of your body in relation to the cab. More flailing = more injury. Standing or bending your knees could snap your knees. You wouldn’t die for sure like jumping but keep in mind you got femoral arteries right above them you don’t want to bleed out from. Best bet is lay down and spread out.
@@Leahm725 standing up is bad in general whenever it comes to high velocity impacts because it means your head has more freedom of movement, and that is what you are trying to protect. i imagine some configuration similar the safety position for airplane emergency landings is your best bet for survival. you are compact, seated, with your head tucked in.
Elevators dropping like that is INCREDIBLY rare. They have several fail safes to avoid that happening, including emergency cables if the standard cables break.
@@OldManYellsAtClouds Which he still kinda fails to do in this episode. He isn't taking these as a talking-point. He could have used the pain one to discuss how pain works, which hormones affect it, the fact that numerous scientific studies have been published to prove that swearing /does/ impact pain tolerance...instead he just says "lol nah that's dumb and too many variables"
Ikr he's acting like it's research or a science study, very weird. Didn't enjoy the video much, very negative. Gave me redditor vibes "urmm atchually" 🤓
This Show was a childhood favourite of mine (even in the UK where it was shown too), and this was really cool to see you react to their Medial experiments! also, I love your medical breakdowns too!
Hi Dr. Mike! Can you please make a video on what to actually eat for a healthy weight loss and diet! I am starting my weight loss journey, but I am having a hard time on my diet as so many people on social media are doing different things. P.S. love you content so much as I find them very informative and enjoyable to watch! ❤
To be fair, nobody on Mythbusters is a medical professional. Jamie and Adam both have practical SFX artists. They have to use more scientific routes rather than medical
In mythbusters if they are doing something obvious, it's because the myth as claimed was clearly not going to work, so they take it to the most extreme version of that myth to entertain, cause it's TV.
For the elevator, your best bet would likely be to stand and do a parachute landing fall, basically falling down and to the side. Give yourself the most time for decelerating as possible. Laying flat would cause put all the impact force into your internals, and jumping is nearly impossible since you can't see when the ground is coming (and you'd jump into the ceiling). That said, an elevator freefalling is nearly impossible, and surviving one that does freefall is also nearly impossible since you have the impact and ceiling to worry about
A lot of Mythbusters came down to _what makes for good TV_ . When you step back and think about some of the myths that were being tested, the _myths_ were largely an excuse to blow something up, shoot guns, or set something on fire.
Truth, in fact many of their myths could be confirmed with just math on a notepad but watching someone do that is not particularly interesting. Case in point will getting shot with a gun make you go flying backwards like in movies.
I know in my first aid/AED training they said you don't have to worry about it. Being a electronics guy, as long as like Dr. Mike said, both defibrillator paddles aren't touching the (same) piercing, nothing will happen. It is resistance that generates heat, and because the piercing has lower resistance then skin, it will generate less heat then the skin that the piercing is attached to. The defibrillator is designed to not give enough current to cause burns. The reason the underwire gave a burn when both paddles were connected to it, is because the only resistance between the 2 paddles is the low resistance wire, so the defibrillator capacitors will discharge a whole lot more current then they would through skin, which will cause the wire to heat up, and that relatively minor burn.
Thats hilarious & i can see it now aha. Shows our age I guess. No one even knows the original book of wizard of oz or the original movie. They’re all too concerned with that Ariana girl
Mythbusters loved setting things on fire and blowing things up. That was their schtick. They know nobody would place electrodes directly on a bare underwire. I loved that show. Always wanted to see what they would blow up next!
8:29 the thing about this myth is that it sounds like a total nonsense, cuz your weight decreases/increases depending on if you go up or down. which means that if you free fall with the elevator, you have little to no weight left before the impact. so that would be essentially the same as free falling without the elevator.
Will he really come down? Or the gravitational pull will be cancelled out. By The pseudo Force and he will start floating at the position. And when the elevator comes down, he will collapse on the roof of the elevator. Just A CURIOUS DOUBT YOU MAY SAY
Being in pain after having a craniotomy a few days ago, I can assure you that speaking positively or saying nice things will absolutely not make my head stop hurting right now, Dr. Mike. In fact, only Vicodin has been effective at making the pain better, though nothing makes it go away completely.
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I think just the fact that swearing when you get hurt is an automatic response would indicate it's an effort for your brain to reduce that pain for you. It's not something you need taught to you to do. You just do it.
Thank you for these videos, I’m soon to be starting my paramedic classes. watching your videos to open my mind and understand more medical terminology and medical conditions is a great help thank you !
Mike obviously hasn't grown up with Mythbusters and doesn't know that they always try to replicate the result even if the myth is obviously busted in real world terms :)
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I can tell you, as a psychologist, there are numerous studies indicating that swearing does indeed increase pain tolerance. (Stephens, Et. al. 2009, Stephens Et. al. 2011, Robertson 2020, etc.)
@@VonSpyder yeah like I've heard so many times as someone who did martial arts that the point of exclamatives and yelling out while doing moves is that it makes you more focused and releases some of the tension, so i don't get that whole "you should say nice things" spiel that he said because like, you still need to release that tension caused by the pain somehow, and yes releasing tension is a way to control stress, which does modulate pain
Student majoring in psychology, and I can also confirm
and if i had to give a hypothesis, the adrenaline rush from saying "naughty" words combined with being a bigger distraction is what results in the pain relief.
Was just about to comment something along those lines. Wouldn't have been able to immediately cite sources tho, so thx :)
As someone whos been through a hella lot of pain via competetive sports and being a moron growing up, swearing like a sailor works better than any over the counter pain med.
The thing about Mythbusters is that they test the actual plausibility of the myth first, then they ramp it up and check how far they have to go for the myth to actually be true. If the myth is that when you pee on an electric fence, you get a burned pp and they find that's not true, then they ramp it up and hook an array of 25 microwave transformers to the fence to see if they could actually get the pp to burn. I don't remember the sunscreen episode but I reckon what we saw was the "can we actually make it happen" stage of that experiment.
Yes, dr mike did not state that he watched the whole episode of each myth. He only showed small clips. It does not give all the information for each myth. I love dr Mike’s channel.
I remember that episode and you are correct, they showed it was impossible under normal condition and then moved on to how can it happen.
Good point! Like the AED test they probably also thought "Well let's crank up the voltage and place the pedals one centimeter from each other to get some result".
Yeah, I think Dr. Mike might have been too critical of the Mythbusters in this video.
yeah I remember that being a thing cause soem myths were busted within like seconds. depending on how far they would have to go to make it happen also determined whether they said plausible or just strait up busted cause though some scenarios came up as unlikely there was a chance they COULD happen and that was all a myth needed to be plausable. like with the bra. its unlikely that the paddles would touch the underwire of a bra but in very rare circumstances it COULD happen.
Oh Dr. Mike. Most of the time when they say it's "plausible" is more of an "it can happen under a specific set of conditions". Loved this show growing up.
Adding to this, some myths, like with the mirror scene from The Mummy, have it Plausible but ludicrous, or Confirming a myth despite how impractical it actually is. For the Defibrillator myths, the Mythbusters essentially took a massive "what if" in the story because if there is any nugget of result that is actually connected to the myth itself, then it is plausible or busted at best.
@@marallenrondez2606 Yeah, besides, if it's a woman having a heart attack, it's the same as men. I'm sorry if it's your favorite bra or suit, it will end up cut, ripped or both. I need the space to put the patches properly.
@@SuiLagadema That's very true, the good Samaritan act is there in the event that someone tries to sue ya fer "Exposing" them, like, what, was I supposed to let ya die? Ya didn't have an DNR, so no, I wasn't.
@@CeirusAvalon the whole DNR thing is bogus to me anyway, what responder or specialist, or average joe is gonna check for a DNR when they see someone on the verge of dying? your mind is literally "I gotta try an save this person" and goes tunnel vision into that thought.
Exactly there are cases where it's basically possible if all the planets align on a Friday the 13th on at 1300 hours.
ER doc here. I had a patient who covered himself in bug spray while working outside and, shortly thereafter, ignited a bonfire. He had enough residual wet spray and was close enough that he caught fire and had about 30% TBSA burns. The fire risk with propellant spray is legit.
Dr. Mike really needs to revise this whole video.
The perfect fringe case that Dr. Mike chooses to ignore. It's aaaaall a part of science. Hence why scientific research will never be fully complete and perfect and why we should have an open mind in all things science. Fringe cases will ALWAYS exist.
My job involves treating patients with problems you just can't make up. That said, my goal is not to bag on Dr. Mike, as he does a lot of good with education. My goal is to supplement his educational efforts with a different perspective based on my unique experiences working in the ER, which is just vastly different from his practice as a Family med doc. It's all good.
Growing up, instead of bug sprays, we just have to wear long sleeved clothing. I guess better than bug sprays.
Pretty sure the can says flammable, so the problem really solves itself
You should have Adam on your podcast to talk about these myths!
That said, Adam has also gone on record to clarify that, while they did conduct their experiments as scientific as possible, they clearly don't have the time to do proper studies for concrete answers. Their "busted" and "confirmed" results are strictly if the topic is possible.
Plus, whenever a myth is busted, they go all out to see if they can get the result they want by any means necessary - blowing stuff up is totally part of the entertainment factor lol 😂
>You should have Adam on your podcast to talk about these myths!
That and his SFX background. there are plenty of toxic fumes in the materials used for the practical SFX (he was one of the ILM modellers in the shop, which many of the cast members are also from.)
Adam Savage has gone on record many times saying that the Mythbusters stand by the methodology behind how they conducted their tests but NOT the results. They always acknowledged that their sample sizes were too small to draw concrete conclusions from them. They were always very good at employing proper skepticism.
The whole show was proof-of-concept. Not about accuracy or finality. I.E. if someone wanted to do a multiyear peer-reviewed study with a hugely significant sample size, they are more than welcome to do so and prove the MBs wrong.
Big part of why they used plausible so liberally, if they can create circumstances with their limited test run and scenarios in which something close to the myth happened, then it happening over and over again in the real world means much better odds of it occurring at least once naturally.
A big part of MythBusters was the entertainment, too. If it was just a science documentary, it would not have been as successful.
I found the later seasons to use worse methodology as they upped the anti for entertainment purposes, which I found to be disappointing.
His takes on this reaction video were just bad all around. Not only is he clearly not watching the full context of the episodes (or worse, make these bad takes on purpose because of how the video was edited to earn more clicks), he is also failing to give an ounce of credit to the team that they tried their best with the time, budget, and small sample sizes they use for entertainment television.
Pig thing actually could happen, which i extrapolated upon in my own post. However short but possible answer is just a common human error such as the following: 4th of July > had too many beers (is drunk)>starts cooking> reapplies sunscreen before flipping meat on grill> doesn't give time to dry, flame is too high and presto... the drunk person's arm catches fire... (dumber things have happened to people in the past, that's not unrealistic in the slightest. Drunk people have been hurt much worse for much less than that.)
The swearing thing has some studies behind them... so enough said on that... it's fair for myth-busters to come to the conclusion they did. They're not medical professionals.
Touching bra wire... well that's also vaguely possible if the right measures aren't taken... if you're in an emergency and a woman is wearing an old worn-out bra with an exposed wire and you touch that wire with an electrical current in a way that connects it like shown in the video, then yeah it's going to spark... but Mike's a guy and I don't expect him to have any understanding of how long a woman might wear out a bra for, but underwires in bras can become exposed over time. Fabric wears, tears, stretches, and the wire sometimes pokes out a little... I'm not saying it's a common thing.. I'm just saying in an emergency situation, with a bunch of non-medical experts who don't have the right placement of the defibrillator, or worse leave clothing on when doing so, bad things are going to happen and people could realistically make accidents to cause a spark of a fire on a bra...
Failing all of the above though, it's a show about busting myths... not running complicated, large, double blind scientific studies with peer review... and thus, his standards are just genuinely way too harsh this time around.
Mythbusters generally started with a myth that they would test and then slowly work towards more ridiculous circumstances to see if the strangest possible iteration is plausible. So some of the scene out of context will look really stupid.
@sogwatchman for instance tested thr myth they don't teach the 10 & 12 hand positions for driving anymore because the airbag can blow your thumbs off. First test resulted in some small cuts but nothing serious. So they ran it again with the thumbs extended, laceration but still intact. So they went to the ridiculous the hands in the 🖖 position gripping the wheel between the middle fingers. Deep laceration but it didn't get blown off. But who drives like that?
They did indeed go from the sublime to the ridiculous to see if, IN ANY MANNER, they could see if there was one iota of truth to a myth. That's why they had one of three outcomes: Confirmed, Busted, or Plausible. The last being if there was there was any possibility that the myth COULD be true.
Tbf the sun screen myth could totally be a kid. Kid's are f*cking stupid, and I could totally see a hyper kid getting doused by mom before darting off to keeping playing or whatever. Runs past an open flame like a fire ring or reaches over a candle on a birthday cake or something, and boom kid is suddenly on fire and screaming. People by and large should know not to spray silly string near flames and yet there's literally hundreds of videos of it happening. Aerosol sun screen is probably the less likely version for a similar scenario, and the pig grill thing is just testing the most extreme of perfect circumstances, which while rare are still possible.
Out of context the show looks stupid especially to Mike who already understands that aerosol sunscreen has flammable propellants. But I guarantee that if you stopped and interviewed the average beach goer they would never think that their sunscreen is flammable until you pointed out the propellant. Could easily see a mom spraying her kid down while managing a billion other things and not anticipating that she's making her kid flammable for a handful of seconds until the propellants evaporate.
Adam has confirmed this on his podcast, but they generally did NOT have camera people on "site", they usually were in the next room so they didn't bias anything.
This entire episode was honestly much more unpleasant than any of the other reactions, not sure why hes so serious for this one.
He's not serious 😂@xmaracx
@@xmaracx uhhh felt like pretty standard doctor mike to me
@@xmaracxit really wasn’t, I think you’re only thinking that because you like mythbuster so you’re being more sensitive than normal to what he’s saying. He was being pretty normal here
Also he was completely right about how they were being ridiculous and kind of forced it to be true with the bra wire, by changing the conditions to something that wouldn’t happen.
You’re not supposed to put the pads on over clothes
I agree, he comes off as obnoxious. The point of many of these myths is to test the edge case, which is a valid scientific method.
Doctor Reacts To MYTHBUSTERS clips and highlight reels out of context.
So completely out of context without any of the parts where they allay all Mike's problems.
I don't know if this nuance is being missed, but Myth Busters often did a "busting the myth" segment, and then they did a "trying our damndest to make it happen" segment, which was great fun to watch. I suspect that some of the latter were included in this review 🤣
The thing to remember about these, especially the last one, is it's not about "Is this likely to happen?" It's all about "could this ever happen?" And of course, because television and ratings, then they ramp it up to "What does it take to make this happen?"
I think one of the best examples being the exploding water heater. They showed that water heaters have multiple fail safes that ensure they do not explode. But, if you disable every safety measure, seal it tight, and crank up the pressure, they can in fact launch like a freaking rocket right through your house and out the roof.
Hehe always ends with a big boom.
@@chrishubbard64 I was thinking of the same one while typing this.
@@chrishubbard64 Which is plausible to happen in some cases. Who says that an old boiler, badly maintained and amateurishly patched up in an old house, WOULDN'T create exactly those circumstances. Its such fringe cases that spawn Myths.
@chrishubbard64 exactly, and a woman having sone of her underwire worn through her bra is very very plausible, I've had it happen to me a few times. Bras are expensive.
And the thing to remember is, people do some dumb stuff and don't always check with others if they did too. Most major industrial accidents are like "this shouldn't have happened, but this precaution was broken while this precaution was down for maintenance and this precaution wasn't taken seriously, and this precaution had the corners cut to save money, etc, and the combination leads to the disaster.
RIP Grant Imahara. You are missed.
Wait, what? When did he pass?
Just looked it up. Man, I've been under a rock.
Grant is always, always missed. There are quite a few of my kids' childhood host people who are no longer with us. So sad.
@@viirinsoftworks1304 do you remember the blonde "punk" girl who substituted Carry for a few episodes because she has just come into labor? Well , she is also not alive.
RIP
Not by Dr. Mike, apparently.
To be fair, while I haven't seen the episode with the sunscreen, since they usually test *myths*, this might have been a simple case of "We heard a rumor that someone was BBQing in their backyard, used spray-on sunscreen and suddenly caught on fire".
In this case, their setup seems reasonable since it tries to recreate a possible (however unlikely) scenario in which someone might end up "on fire because of sunscreen". They're not claiming "sunscreen is a highly flammable substance", they're just checking if it's theoretically possible that this could have happened to someone under these conditions.
IIRC, they were testing the scenario of dad by the grill, re-upping sunscreen and sort of forgetting their time and place and spraying the sunscreen next to the grill.
They normally tried the expected scenario and then if that doesn't work they would go to giving it the best possible scenario they can for the myth to be even remotely plausible.
@@darrowgoff3256 Yeah, like with the defibrillator. They tested the standard scenario (basically proving an arc to be impossible), but then moved onto the extremes of "what if" an inexperienced EMT or someone not paying attention slapped the paddles directly against the exposed metal. Then yes, it is /technically/ plausible even if it requires a very specific set of circumstances.
Dr Mike in this episode seems a little....bitter. They aren't doing peer-reviewed studies under perfect lab conditions with thousands of subject participants. They are physicists/builders/mathematicians doing proof-of-concept experiments as best they can from a warehouse. Even if that means trying to recreate the most specific set of circumstances to 'prove' the possibility of a myth.
Agree, grabbing bits of the show without the whole context isn't fair. They always took the episode to the "too the max" conditions. Those cuts didn't represent the whole episode accurately.
@@samfisher6606 Yes! Also, part of what they had to test was if the sunscreen which was applied still contained enough off-gassing propellant to be highly flammable. Which isn't a given. They couldn't even consistently get a trail of gasoline to light when they tested that as part of a later myth because it wasn't evaporating quickly enough.
And the thing about clothing being flammable is a thing that is already recognized as a danger (at least with synthetic fibers, most natural fibers are self-extinguishing). You shouldn't wear loose clothing near an open flame.
They also were doing a similar thing with the elevator one. They had a specific, (oddly, especially for them) well-documented story that they were testing if the jump was what saved the guy. They ended up determining that it was some combination of safety mechanisms the elevator had.
So glad to see so many defending Mythbusters. Maybe Dr Mike should redo this after seeing the entire episodes
Or at least the entire part of the episodes that deal with those myths, considering that frequently there are multiple myths being tested in parallel.
@thomasfplm good point
@@thomasfplm It really shouldn't be hard to reasonably summarize the myth with cuts from each episode without losing the context. Key points from the opening intro for the particular myth, the key moments during the tests and a proper cut of the discussion at the end before deciding how to call the myth.
They did that with first couple of myths, but it seemed like Dr Mike's editing crew just presented the experiment methodology completely void of those other two context clues for all the other ones, and with nothing at all about their concluding remarks. It's no wonder it seemed unscientific to him when they're just jumping into random tests for what seems like generic claims.
This video is like watching someone complain about a book being too short and not detailed enough when all they read was the CliffsNotes version.
Your the one complaining lil bro
@@Wolf_man789 You're*. And I'm probably older than you.
@@dronhen sure ain’t acting like lt
@@Wolf_man789 I normally like Dr Mike's videos, but this one was a miss. He did not watch any full episodes and so he did not have the necessary context to properly criticize their methods and conclusions. I'm not sure what the problem is with pointing that out. Dr. Mike does so himself all the time -- calling out others (rightfully so) for reaching conclusions without first doing proper research.
Ok then this seems like a misunderstanding I don’t see how he’s wrong but clearly you do which is okay because everyone has opinions now let’s both be the bigger person and stop arguing
I'm a little confused.
Dr.Mike were you watching youtube clips of these test or the original full episodes. They Explain everything in the episodes, plus when it came to the ice test they did it on a wider selection of people. Everything you said in your video is accurate but the original show already explained everything.
He's a busy doctor... probably only watched clips.
Someone prepares clips for him, he sometimes even asks about if something happens or what happens in rest of the episode.
obviously he isnt going to spend hours watching 10+ full episodes of every show he reacts to.....
Yeah, I remember they also specifically said in that episode that women who've been through labour had a much higher pain tolerance and used them as a separate group as well. it's a fascinating episode.
@@hattarapilvi So his reactions are basically invalid because he's not reacting to the actual thing, but a summary of the thing.
The swearing and pain tolerance experiment has been confirmed many times, under properly strict conditions.
And the MythBusters used a larger sample size of volunteers, not just their own team, but that was left out of the video that Mike watched. They also did research at a pain center beforehand if I remember, but that was left out too.
Again… 10:32
Though it's unclear, why it works like that. How screaming bad words distracts brain from sensation of pain.
Fun fact; This episode of MythBusters is actually based on that research. Keele University conducted this experiment in 2009. The MythBusters episode aired in 2010 and tried to duplicate the experiment.
However, if you read the research (and others) it is expressed that it's only effective for some people, and it's also only effective for those who swear in moderation.
Furthermore, the hypothesis on why cursing is effective is based on stress-induced analgesia (your fight or flight response) by triggering the release of adrenalin (something not everyone can do on command with curse words. It is also noteworthy that adrenaline has other effects such as increasing heart rate and blood flow, which may make a painful situation worse).
Dr. Mike is correct. The experiment done at MythBusters wasn't valid (but the original was) and the conclusion found it's not the words themselves, it's your correlation to those words.
He is also right that both hypnosis and meditation are research supported ways for some people to reduce pain, so if you do curse often you can try those methods.
@@ceu160193 My guess is it's probably a result of humans having evolved social behaviors. We tend to travel in groups, so there's value in screaming and letting other people know that you're hurt, and/or that there's something in the area that can hurt them. I'd imagine that we evolved an impulse to scream for that very reason, and thus screaming obscenities you'd only hear when when someone is hurt fulfills that impulse, reducing the stress of the pain. You could probably find similar behavior in monkeys or any other animal social animal that screams in response to pain or threats. Though I'm not sure how you could appropriately study that king of thing, especially in an ethical manner.
This is what the Mythbusters do. They test the myth in regular conditions and if it doesn't work, they make the conditions more extreme to see what it would take to actually have the result that the myth implies. Often times they have to amp the extreme conditions to totally ridiculous levels to actually achieve this, and that was the case with the sunscreen and the pig.
Like the water heater rocket myth. I think under regular conditions they busted that myth. But then they ramped it up by disabling every safety feature and showed that yes, under these highly unlikely circumstances, a water heater could turn into a rocket and shoot right through your house. I forget if they fully confirmed or busted the myth. It's been a while since I've seen it.
The myth busters were always candid about the absurdity of some of the scenarios. They’d typically try to bust/confirm the most reasonable take on the myth, then crank it up to an absurd level just for fun.
Mythbusters is a show that shows if a myth is plausible under extreme conditions that could theoretically possible. There are a lot of procedures and such that make things as sound as possible for a small TV show.
Mike should have reacted to the flu fiction episode where they experimented with different sneezing covering techniques. It was mythbusters that got sneezing into the elbow to be in people’s minds. Also their one on how far snot can spread and why being responsible will help prevent others being sick. Those episodes are pre COVID too
Eh... not really. I was taught that during every training for volunteering and child care, my mom and sister as well, before it was released.
@@RainCheck797 Same, I was taught that in kindergarten which was years before Mythbusters even started.
I think of that episode often and the episode where they see how much uh, waste matter.. accumulates on the tooth brush when a toilet is flushed.🤣 They’re the reason why I put my toilet lid down when I flush and I keep my toothbrush in the medicine cabinet 🤣☠️. Also, I’m one of the rare people who sneezes/ coughs into my shirt instead of my elbow. I feel like doing it into my shirt catches more of the “spray” vs sneezing into my arm.
Although yes, many people are taught at a very young age to cover their coughs our sneezes, I can tell you many people as children and adults DO NOT follow those rules. Even after COVID.☠️
Yall don’t even want to know how many people I catch leaving the bathroom not washing their hands 😭☠️🤢🤮.
It certainly convinced me to elbow-sneeze every time. Also learned that being a germophobe is the best defence at a dinner party.
@@Shart-santha i never left the toilet lid open again after that episode 😂
Mythbusters is an ICONIC part of my childhood. Growing up with these guys and Bill Nye really made me love science.
BILL BILL BILL BILL NYE THE SCIENCE GUY
I don't live in America @@chaz10297
@@chaz10297 bill nye the science guy
Loved Mythbusters growing up, and seeing Grant there really makes me sad but also thankful for his contributions. Rest In Peace Grant!
RIP Grant.
Yes! That was one of the few celebrity deaths that I felt affected by. I grew up watching the show and my brother wanted to be Grant when he grew up.
I actually didn't know he passed away. Has to be something tragic because he was young. :(
The best part about Mythbusters is that it isn't a killjoy show. If a myth is busted, they don't just go 'well, that's that'. They go 'yeah, it won't happen under normal circumstances, but is it possible to make it happen?'
7:15 “I don’t have a turbo charged pogo stick installed into my pelvis” peak Mike gold XD
For the defibrillator one: they did try the nipple piercings later in the episode, but results were essentially the same: when placed right no spark, no burns. When placed directly on the metal, you get a small burn.
Agree. At that point in the episode they moved onto the "what would it take to get the result" testing phase. Out of full context. Kari said plausible, not confirmed.
The myth they were busting was that people have been burned by bra wires and nipple piercings when the were being shocked with a defibrillator. I think their experiment showed that that was extremely unlikely to happen. They should have said the myth was busted, not plausible. The only think they showed as being plausible was that metal gets hot when you run electricity through it.
@billnicholson3173 They only used Busted when the myth was impossible, not just implausible. That's why most of these examples were Plausible instead, because even though the circumstances are EXTREMELY unlikely to occur in the wild, humans are strange and unpredictable (Untold Stories of the ER and Sex Sent Me to the ER taught me that...) so nothing was completely ruled Busted if they got the myth to work even under very specific circumstances.
@@DreamingBackToThis "They only used Busted when the myth was impossible, not just implausible. That's why most of these examples were Plausible" So by your own words you are saying that the called things plausible when they were actually implausible.
@billnicholson3173 I mean, if we want to argue vocabulary, sure. But the actual point is that they didn't USE Implausible as a ruling on the show. The myth was either 100% Busted meaning completely impossible no matter what they tried to do to make it happen, 100% Confirmed meaning they could recreate it under the conditions in the original myth, or Plausible meaning - much like the defibrillator burning skin or the sunscreen catching someone on fire - it could only happen under VERY specific circumstances. Would Implausible But Possible be better? Yes, probably, but that's not the vocabulary they used.
It's painful that Dr. Mike fundamentally misunderstood the point of this show.
Truth. Did nobody tell him the concept of he’d never seen it or heard of it before?
Yeah, this was a cringy and half assed video tbh
What was the point of the show?
This happens to him with a lot of things lol
You're new here aren't you
A lot of these made far more sense if you don't cut out the actual myth they were testing.
I believe the sunscreen one had the person in the story catching fire after reapplying sunscreen by the grill.
So, yeah, they needed to see which sunscreens might be flammable, then see if the fire spread.
In the case he showed, I think it was the propellant that was flammable rather than the actual sunscreen. You can get a similar flareup with canola spray (like Pam), which many, including myself, use to make the food stick to the rack less.
@@HariSeldon913 Yeah, but since you're spraying Pam away from yourself and not ONTO yourself, it's less likely you'd actually catch fire. The question was never "what might cause a flare over a grill?"
Everyone knows aerosol cans are flammable, but if you're dumb enough to spray a ton of aerosolized sunscreen towards your body over an open flame (or even heavily cover yourself and then immediately approach an open flame, as with the pig) then the possibility exists the fire can spread to your body and set you on fire.
I love Dr Mike, and I love MythBusters.
Thanks, thumbs up, have a great day.
RIP Mike you were the good youtube doctor. Hope you will be happy whereever you are.❤
Dr. Mike, call Adam Savage over at the Tested youtube channel. I bet he'd love to talk with you about these!
I'm glad that he's still around and as passionate as ever, was such a huge fan of him in my teens, now I'm nearing 30 and still a big fan! Crazy to think I've watched him for half my life 😊
This! I think Mike needs to get Adam on the podcast to talk about balancing entertainment with the scientific method... and maybe the dangers of reacting to a clip taken out of its original context.
the collab i didn't know i needed!
Adam has some pretty interesting/wild medical stories (for one, he's an outspoken hearing aid advocate, having a congenital condition). I do think it'd be an interesting discussion.
That said, it seems like the podcast leans toward controversial guests, and I think Adam would be the exact opposite of that.
With the bra myth, Mike, I don't know how familiar you are with the Mythbusters concept, but they do two stages: First, they test to see if the common story of a myth is plausible - not like, but possible. And then they also test to see what it would take to get the results, no matter how absurd.
The bra thing, they even said in this clip, they were creating a supremely unlikely set of circumstances just to see of they could duplicate the results. So the "plausible" determination wasn't saying it was likely to happen, but that it COULD happen is exceptional circumstances.
Edited to add: All of the above applies to the flammable sunscreen. They weren't saying it was going to be a common outcome, they were testing what it would take to duplicate the results.
Plus, I think the defibrillator myth states that it touches the underwire or nipple piercing when it shocks.
This is one of the few rare times I didn’t enjoy the video, solely because i don’t think mike got the context of the myths in question… which actually made me sad since I grew up with mythbusters, they and bill nye and a few others got me into science :3
@@L1ghtWolfGaming Sameeee, I feel like he'd really like it and understand their approaches if he actually watched any context for the clips
Unfortunately, this tends to happen a lot with his "reacts" videos, where he's not given enough context to understand what's really going on in the clips he's shown. For example, I remember where he reacted to the Scrubs rabies episode, and rather missed much of the point of the episode because he didn't get who Jill Tracy was and what the background was between her and JD,.
It's too negative like he's reacting to a science study not entertainment. Very bad vibes
10:50 I have always thought it was not the swearing itself but the screaming that helps you. It seems to be pretty established among climbers. I think it English it is called "screaming point" or something like that. It might be another myth, of course... But surely I would focus on the "getting all your air out" as a coping mechanism. That would be interesting.
8:20 if you ever in an elevator and it starts to freefall, you’re supposed to lay on your back and it’s very unlikely that elevator is gonna be freefalling because I’m pretty sure there’s like five safety locks that’s gonna have to pass
I love Dr. Mike. I love Mythbusters. This video hurt me. Deeply.
For the defibrillator one: they did try the nipple piercings later in the episode, but results were essentially the same: when placed right no spark, no burns. When placed directly on the metal, you get a small burn..
Actually there are studies that suggests that swearing can sometimes increase pain tolerance by like 1/3. And the mythbusters motto was "if it's worth doing, it's worth overdoing" so that's why the pig got covered in flammable liquid whilst being cm away from a naked flame. I loved Mythbusters when I was a teenager.
(R.I.P Grant).
i thought the study was swearing decreases pain as it allows dopomine (is that the correct hormone for pain relief?) to be released in the body
@jamiefrontiera1671 as far as I know, realising dopamine can reduce pain/provide some pain relief. However I don't know enough about it to be 100% sure.
I actually did install a turbo charged pogo stick into my pelvis just recently. Very useful indeed.
The mythbusters are not necessarily trying to just be scientific. Not all myths are logical. They are trying to see if a myth has any basis in reality and if so, under what circumstances might it be true. They try to bust, confirm (or find plausible) a myth under the stated or known conditions, and if they can’t confirm under those conditions they will exceed the conditions to see if there are any conditions under which the myth is plausible.
It was a great, fun show!
7:25 “I don’t have a turbo charged pogo stick installed into my pelvis”
- The All Knowing Dr. Mike
That would be something better answered by one of his former girlfriends. 😺
Well, what you are waiting for? Install one right away!
No, but he has legs that can jump. Buster does not.
Dr. Mike, first thing, the myths are not things the Mythbusters believe, iirc all those myths were submissions by audience members or written by production from anecdotes and all. The point of the show was to prove or disprove these myths, as stupid as they may sound, to the audience, on TV, to dispel misinformation being told in the way of those wives' tales you always hear. Second, Adam and Jamie do try to control for a lot of variables, like for example camera crew not interfering with the experiments, give them some credit, they're engineers iirc. Third, when myths that sound outrageous but fun don't work out, these two always try to ramp it up to see if there's any way that myth could ever be true, like for example I think there was one about cars exploding upon impact due to the gasoline in the tank that they proved that on normal circumstances it'd not be feasible, but they crafted a scenario that would somehow cause that to happen, and it was something like 200 mph car with leaking gasoline that would cause that to happen. So, in summary, ofc the sunscreen myth is bullshit, but I've heard people say that myth proudly to justify shaming me for using sunscreen "unnecessarily", and thus the Mythbusters show that no, in normal circumstances, you won't catch on fire from putting on sunscreen, only if something as stupid as someone spraying aerosol sunscreen next to an open flame happened that would be the case.
Grant Imahara was an electrical engineer, but none of the other team members were (from the original crew).
Jamie has a degree in Russian Literature IIRC, and of course now I think all of them probably have a pile of honorary degrees. This show has probably done more for getting people into STEM than anyone on TV since Sagan.
The point of Myth Busters was for them to try and get the myth to happen regardless of circumstance. They would usually bust a myth and then try to replicate super humanly and it was great entertainment.
Mike absolutely going nuts with the sunscreen "experiment", lmao
This just brought back memories of my dad sharing this show with me. I wish it were still going (with the original cast)
Sorry Mike, but by not watching a lot more of the show, you're missing a great deal of their method.
Agree.. Mike is almost completely loosing the point here.
Or simply Mike just needed to talk with Adam Savage!
I watched a lot of the show when it was new. I enjoyed it for the wacky stuff they did, but their methods were always too unreliable for me to take seriously, and there were a few times where I found myself thinking "I hope no one takes this seriously and thinks they can/can't do something based on this show, alone."
@@mikcnmvedmsfonotekaI'd love for Adam to go on the checkup podcast if there was a context that made sense for both of them. lol
@@Galiant2010 Then you also missed the point. They almost always start with the myth as stated (or as it is most likely to actually happen) and then ramp it up to an extreme to see if it's possible in a real world setting, and then if they still haven't gotten the result, ramp it up to an absurd level to see if the stated result is even possible.
I feel like Mike underestimates just how dumb/careless people can be. Putting AED pads on wrong is 100% something that can happen and people let their clothes get worn all the time, especially women and their favorite bras. I've seen, with my own eyes not on video, someone apply spray on sunscreen while having a lit cigarette and about as close to an open flame as the mannequin was to the grill. People in those situations aren't doing it on purpose but they will still do dumb stuff like that. Think of all the warnings on products; each one is there because someone somewhere did the thing they are warning you about. There was a trend a while back of putting flour in a blow dryer. A highly flammable substance when aerosolized in a device that will not only aerosolize it but also gets hot enough to ignite the dust. Agent K said it in Men in Black "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky animals..."
Indeed, the possibility of accidentally touching the edge of a bra seems quite plausible to me. Or just not thinking that it would make any difference.
I think that episode predates the widespread use of AEDs. Back then it was mostly still this big non-automated cart with the two irons they rub together to spread the lube thing and put on your chest.
Yeah, when a myth is plausible it means that they got it to work under a very specific but possible set of circumstances. An exposed under wire and someone touching it with a defibrillator is perfectly possible but possibly rare enough to not fully confirm the myth.
I feel like you kinda missed the point of Mythbusters my guy 🤔
Embarrassingly so. Whoever showed him these clips left out all of the surrounding research and explanations, and the entire group of volunteers that were tested for the swearing myth. This was not a good video.
What is the point of mythbusters if not entertainment mixed in with some crude science experiments? This is a reaction video and he was simply commenting at the crudeness of the experiments and having fun. I think he did get it even though he was only seeing very limited clips.
I feel like your missing the point of this video my guy.
Yeah this is how I felt. Seems like Dr. M didn't watch Myth Busters, which is fine. But this is a really poor selection of clips. I get that they have limited time and this is just a reaction video. But they always qualify on the show when they're going beyond what would likely ever happen and showing an extreme 0.0001% chance. I feel like that should have been explained, lol.
@@AndrewMillward "I get that they have limited time and this is just a reaction video."
There's a level of irony there, lol.
IM SO HAPPY YOUR REACTING TO MYTHBUSTERS! I’m such a fan!!
4:49 there was one case where an underwire bra did catch on fire during a defibrillation, but that was over 30 years ago when they used 600 joules of energy, twice as much as they do now.
I also have to wonder if they would even leave the bra on! About seventeen years ago now, my mom had a heart attack and unfortunately passed away, but the paramedics had cut/taken her shirt off so I got shy and waited in the other room. I don't think they would leave any fabric or metal in the way of saving a life!
Something tells me Dr Mike didn't understand what they were trying to do with the show.
I mean I know it's silly and no one should ever consider Mythbusters science before entertainment, but the way this was edited to make it look like they were trying be a bunch of knuckleheads blowing stuff up rather than accommodating the crazy concepts that some people believe makes me wonder what else he is misrepresenting for that sweet sweet youtube algorithm. But hey, here I am making a comment so we'll done doc.
Hey Dr, Mike to quote the MythBusters “I reject your reality and substitute my own!”
I'm surprised Mike hasn't learned of the multiple studies relating swearing to a decrease in pain. Especially in some things like martial arts you may be taught to exclaim or yell in order to be more focused and release tension and stiffness.
This brought back so many memories! And I watched every one of the episodes that you have featured here. The one about cursing, I think it’s more to the fact of if you are prone to cursing when things hurt, it may help you cope with the pain better. if you have to consciously sensor yourself. If you’re someone who does not curse, suddenly cursing is not gonna help.
Philologist here. Swearing is actually very often stored in the emotional part of the brain and not the language part. So swearing has to be natural to do anything, and then it's linked to emotions. That's why people with dementia usually can still swear even if they have aphasia (or that's what they taught us at the uni). To actually have any kind of effect on fighting pain, they would have to actually SWEAR swear, not use euphemisms, because it's the hardcore swearwords that are stored in our emotional center (like saying "ouch" or whatever language equivalent may there be for you) and not the euphemisms.
Pretty fascinating stuff and, as far as I can tell, still not debunked from when I was studying :D
Unless you pre conditioned yourself to euphemisms. Because it's still not the words but their useage that makes them effective.
I personally conditioned myself to curse "Alderaan" from pain/shock/suprise.
Which people might look at me weird for, but they do that anyways, so I'll prefer to not actually curse by reflex in front of children.
(Alderaan is the first planet destroyed by the first death star in Star Wars)
@@Robin93k Yes, absolutely, self-conditioning is the key here! Like you've said, if you condition yourself to swear with euphemisms, they will get coded into your brain to be used as such. I use some in a similar manner and YES also because I don't want anything to slip in front of kids.
And Alderaan is such a great idea! It even sounds sophisticated when used in this way :D (As in, like a sophisticated curse)
I'm not sure if you've ever watched Mythbusters, but when they find something doesn't work, they will go to the extremes to find even the smallest, most unlikely cases where it might replicate the myth-like with the sunscreen-and still say it's Busted. The bra one with the paddle really should've been a Busted as well.
Though a noob could completely mess up the defibrillation and burn someone. Highly unlikely, but possible.
@@jii.That's why they said Is plausible
Hey Mike. Avid fan of Mythbusters here. I think what any person with common sense sees with the sunscreen test is that unless you had a moment of shear stupidity and sprayed yourself with an aerosol while next to an open flame, no your sunscreen doesn't make you more or less likely to catch yourself on fire.
I would argue you could be applying sunscreen while smoking a cigarette and catch fire that way but it's not necessarily the sunscreen and included chemical but the aerosol propellant.
It's so classic Mike that he sees Mythbusters not as a TV show about trying to recreate odd situations and see if they work, but as real world scientists gathering hard evidence for actual use.
Besides, Mythbusters got myself and many others interested in science, pick your targets carefully Mike :P
Obviously they could've been a lot more rigorous and still made as good TV.
hes not targeting anything lol hes just reacting to things people request. the whole point of his reactions is that he looks at it from a very "serious" standpoint as a doctor. also how is a person who never watched this supposed to know the full context of the show and the hosts intentions?
He definitely didn't hit the broadside of the farm in this one... too many contexts are either not given or just totally edited for rage value
This is why i love Doctor mikes channel
Mike did not understand the premise of the sun screen one lmao
Complaining about their methodology, especially sample sizes, is just kind of silly. This is a television show. They can't afford, or have the time, to do a 5 year study with hundreds of test subjects for a single episode.
mike annoyed me this episode WHY ARE WE YELLING 😭😭
XKCD did a comic just for Mike here, number 397, titled "unscientific". One is complaining about how Mythbusters is not scientific, saying "they fail at basic rigor" and the response was this:
"Ideas are tested by experiment. That is the _core_ of science. Everything else is bookkeeping.
"By teaching people to hold their beliefs up to experiment, Mythbusters is doing more to drag humanity out of the unscientific darkness than a thousand lessons in rigor.
"Show them some love."
Adam even says during the show at some point (I'm possibly paraphrasing here): "remember kids, the difference between dicking around and science is writing it down!"
The point of the show was always about having fun, doing baseline proof-of-concept experiments, and taking things to the extreme. Never about fully rigorous, irrefutable, data-gathering studies.
Getting kids to watch for the explosions, and then accidently learn how cool science is; invaluable!
Anyway, back to zombie stuff. I hunger for BRAAAAAIIINNS!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY DR MIKE!!!🥳🥳❤️❤️
Dr. Mike, I've been bed ridden in pain from an ankle sprain, and I will say in full confidence (my boot can back me up 😂) that your content has been keeping me distracted 😂😂
appreciating all of the healthcare workers, yall deserve more attention than yall get
The Mythbusters never claimed to be scientific. Their general M.O. was to start by just setting the myth up as a reasonable person would and seeing if it worked as advertised (confirmed) or not, if it didn't work they'd go back and modify the conditions of the test to see if there was any possibility that it could potentially happen if the circumstances were right. If they were able to make it happen with that tweaking they'd declare it "plausible". as in if every goes exactly right it could happen, if they couldn't make it go they'd call it busted (except in rare cases where they couldn't reproduce it but had documented evidence of it happening, then they'd call it plausible).
So for the defibrillator one they went to the fact they had to go through so much to make it work means they only called it Plausible, because it COULD happen, but 99% of the time it won't.
They also aren't looking for the why, so for the cursing one they flagged it as confirmed because it did help, so it does what it says. They don't claim to know *why* it works, what specific factor causes it, but cursing did consistently help, so there's something there.
The Pig was another one they flagged as "plausible". In the full myth they tested the pig at various times after application and various distances from the grill, but ultimately confirmed that if you dosed yourself with an alcohol based sunscreen and reached over the grill within 5 seconds you could catch yourself on fire. Not impossible so can't be completely busted, but so unlikely they can't really call it confirmed, so plausible.
Did he, like, not watch the entirety of these episodes? There's a lot of nuance ignored that is explained in the episodes...
That's the issue with most react channels, they're given out of context snippets but make conclusions from it. It's all for entertainment but a but annoying ngl
7:55 Spreading out on the floor as much as possible is excactly what you're supposed to do. It spreads out the energy as much as possible. Standing up would probably also be a good idea, it would probably break your legs, and maybe even more, but after all you're only trying to survive, not survive unscathed.
Came here to comment the same thing. My dad and grandpa are elevator mechanics so grew up around them but I’m terrified of man made heights specially. If you jump you’ll break your neck or cave your head in. Laying down helps displace weight as well as limits the movement of your body in relation to the cab. More flailing = more injury. Standing or bending your knees could snap your knees. You wouldn’t die for sure like jumping but keep in mind you got femoral arteries right above them you don’t want to bleed out from. Best bet is lay down and spread out.
@@Leahm725 standing up is bad in general whenever it comes to high velocity impacts because it means your head has more freedom of movement, and that is what you are trying to protect. i imagine some configuration similar the safety position for airplane emergency landings is your best bet for survival. you are compact, seated, with your head tucked in.
Doctor Mike over here acting like anyone thinks Mythbusters uses a rigorous scientific process 😂
I knew as soon as I saw the thumbnail that Dr. Mike was gonna get roasted for this! Haha still fun video though
Happy Birthday Mike! Hope you had the best day ever yesterday! 🎉🎂💕
Yesterday was his bday! No way! It was my sons as well!
Elevators dropping like that is INCREDIBLY rare. They have several fail safes to avoid that happening, including emergency cables if the standard cables break.
Fun fact, when the inventor of the modern elevator once took an ax and cut the elevator cable to proof that he wouldn't drop to his death.
Which the Mythbusters talked about in the episode. Including how they had to disable the safety features even on the abandoned elevator.
Don't most elevators operate with a large piston pushing them up and down rather than a cable suspending them in place?
@@astromonkey2 Depends on the type of elevator. Jared Owens did a video on how both types work.
@@needoriginalname Okay but did he die? Lol
Mike coming at this from a perspective that Mythbusters isn't an entertainment show is kind of bizarre.
@@OldManYellsAtClouds Which he still kinda fails to do in this episode. He isn't taking these as a talking-point. He could have used the pain one to discuss how pain works, which hormones affect it, the fact that numerous scientific studies have been published to prove that swearing /does/ impact pain tolerance...instead he just says "lol nah that's dumb and too many variables"
Ikr he's acting like it's research or a science study, very weird. Didn't enjoy the video much, very negative. Gave me redditor vibes "urmm atchually" 🤓
This Show was a childhood favourite of mine (even in the UK where it was shown too), and this was really cool to see you react to their Medial experiments! also, I love your medical breakdowns too!
Hi Dr. Mike! Can you please make a video on what to actually eat for a healthy weight loss and diet! I am starting my weight loss journey, but I am having a hard time on my diet as so many people on social media are doing different things.
P.S. love you content so much as I find them very informative and enjoyable to watch! ❤
Hey a message to everyone: keep going. You are doing great!
To be fair, nobody on Mythbusters is a medical professional. Jamie and Adam both have practical SFX artists. They have to use more scientific routes rather than medical
But his main criticism was that their experiments are NOT scientific, because indeed, they aren't.
Also the show is for entertainment purposes they probably know most of the times if it will work.
In mythbusters if they are doing something obvious, it's because the myth as claimed was clearly not going to work, so they take it to the most extreme version of that myth to entertain, cause it's TV.
The best way to survive a falling elevator is to lay flat, on you’re stomach, hands behind you’re head, hands interlocked.
For the elevator, your best bet would likely be to stand and do a parachute landing fall, basically falling down and to the side. Give yourself the most time for decelerating as possible. Laying flat would cause put all the impact force into your internals, and jumping is nearly impossible since you can't see when the ground is coming (and you'd jump into the ceiling). That said, an elevator freefalling is nearly impossible, and surviving one that does freefall is also nearly impossible since you have the impact and ceiling to worry about
A lot of Mythbusters came down to _what makes for good TV_ . When you step back and think about some of the myths that were being tested, the _myths_ were largely an excuse to blow something up, shoot guns, or set something on fire.
Truth, in fact many of their myths could be confirmed with just math on a notepad but watching someone do that is not particularly interesting. Case in point will getting shot with a gun make you go flying backwards like in movies.
Now I’m curious about the impact of nipple piercings on defibrillators 😂😂
I know in my first aid/AED training they said you don't have to worry about it.
Being a electronics guy, as long as like Dr. Mike said, both defibrillator paddles aren't touching the (same) piercing, nothing will happen. It is resistance that generates heat, and because the piercing has lower resistance then skin, it will generate less heat then the skin that the piercing is attached to. The defibrillator is designed to not give enough current to cause burns.
The reason the underwire gave a burn when both paddles were connected to it, is because the only resistance between the 2 paddles is the low resistance wire, so the defibrillator capacitors will discharge a whole lot more current then they would through skin, which will cause the wire to heat up, and that relatively minor burn.
I dont have a turbo charged pogo stick installed onto my pelvis
Almost like Mike has never seen Mythbusters before. They have to be entertaining, it is the only thing that kept them on air for so long
Hairstyle is givin The Lollipop Guild(if they had more hair) and munchkins vibes there Mike lol
BAHAHAHA you took the words out of my mouth 😂
Thats hilarious & i can see it now aha. Shows our age I guess. No one even knows the original book of wizard of oz or the original movie. They’re all too concerned with that Ariana girl
@@BootsiesTootieslmao right 🤦🏻💀
I was expecting a reaction to mythbusters injuries, like the time Adam burned his eyebrows off, or when the molten jaw breaker exploded
'Am I missing an eyebrow?' 🤣🤣
Mythbusters loved setting things on fire and blowing things up. That was their schtick. They know nobody would place electrodes directly on a bare underwire. I loved that show. Always wanted to see what they would blow up next!
it's important to remember that none of this is 'science' or 'studies' as much as it's a curious and creative form of entertainment
8:29 the thing about this myth is that it sounds like a total nonsense, cuz your weight decreases/increases depending on if you go up or down. which means that if you free fall with the elevator, you have little to no weight left before the impact. so that would be essentially the same as free falling without the elevator.
Will he really come down?
Or the gravitational pull will be cancelled out.
By The pseudo Force and he will start floating at the position. And when the elevator comes down, he will collapse on the roof of the elevator.
Just A CURIOUS DOUBT YOU MAY SAY
Being in pain after having a craniotomy a few days ago, I can assure you that speaking positively or saying nice things will absolutely not make my head stop hurting right now, Dr. Mike. In fact, only Vicodin has been effective at making the pain better, though nothing makes it go away completely.
Mike, my dude....look, grab the beverage of your choice, a snack, sit down, stay quiet....AND ENJOY THE *BLEEPY BLEEPBLEEP* SHOW!!! 🙃😂
See? I feel SO much better now. Thanks, Mythbusters!! RIP Grant 💖
If sneezing popped your eyes out if they were open, don’t you think you’d feel some force on your eyelids every time you sneezed haha
I think just the fact that swearing when you get hurt is an automatic response would indicate it's an effort for your brain to reduce that pain for you. It's not something you need taught to you to do. You just do it.
Thank you for these videos, I’m soon to be starting my paramedic classes. watching your videos to open my mind and understand more medical terminology and medical conditions is a great help thank you !
I love Mythbusters! Because they take the time to explain the science in a way that even non-science minded me can understand :D
11:23 it is because their is a part of the brain that holds all the "naughty" words, so when we say said words, we get a little adrenaline shot. 😀
Why would that give you an adrenaline rush?
@@hziebicki prob cuz when you get pain, you scream out those words so that would maybe give your body a bit adrenaline
"F-----------K!!!!"
«There is actually called mythbusters»
Damn i felt old hearing that
RIP Grant Imahara. I loved this show as a kid, it's sillier in hindsight
Mike obviously hasn't grown up with Mythbusters and doesn't know that they always try to replicate the result even if the myth is obviously busted in real world terms :)