Monitor: You can't change fate. Obey Oliver. Oliver Queen: Shoots Monitor and sacrifices himself therefore changing the future probably saving Barry and Kara :) Monitor: Damn
Mallory Newman what if by his choices there cause Kara to have to die as well and Barry? I have watched super girl since like season 2 and before season 2 ended I stopped so I’m not caught up on if she plays a bigger role due to the monitor visiting her previously
@@mixednarwhal the only time the monitor was is super girl was to test John(Martian man hunter) and to bring lex Luther back to life. Kara only ever interacted with her during elseworlds
@@mixednarwhal Probably because the Flash and Supergirl are not cancelled and also the whole future was changed when Oliver killed himself because that was not the original future that the Monitor saw when he informed Barry and Kara of their deaths earlier in their respective seasons . Plus the future has always been a fluid thing for the Arrowverse. I know that a lot of people are wanting a true adaptation of the Crises On Infinite Earths, but you have to keep in mind that the Arrowverse is a universe that will more than likely continue after this event is over , so I don't think that they will kill all three of their leads and keep them dead for any length of time more than a few episodes. Now it is my personal belief that the Flash will die in his series finale. You can only kill the same character a couple of times , my opinion on this limit is three before their death loses all meaning., like Rory from Doctor Who it got to the point where his death was a running joke and i feel that when Kara and Barry do die their deaths should be handled with a sense of permanency that I don't know if they would allow if that occurred now because their shows are still slated to continue. I am welcome to the other option happening but I feel like a hero's sacrifice is a big deal and it should be saved for the end. Let's face it we all know Oliver is probably going to come back via a parallel Earth version of him if I had to guess I would say Oliver Queen from Earth 16 the 2046 version, and will probably die in the way Monitor originally foresaw but I truly believe that version of Oliver the version of Oliver that we have watched grow over eight seasons died last night in the way that he lived sticking it to Authority and doing things his way for the benefit of the people and I think that is really beautiful and I think that powerful moment would be undercut if we were to see that version of Oliver again except in flashbacks. That's what I want for all the main characters in characters in general for any show. I want to get to the end of a character's Journey and feel like they got the character right and it makes sense. I don't want a beautifully written ending for us to be teased that a character is going to leave when we know they aren't because it doesn't make logistical sense and the actor hasn't expressed they are leaving yet or we see pictures of them onset and it's pretty clear that we've been lied to that makes up beautiful ending far less impactful if you are to watch it again after hearing that news because you know it's not the end that there's more it stop me from getting more emotionally invested in a character story and I hate that. I am not ashamed to say that last night I cried the death of Oliver Queen like I cried at Iron Man's death in endgame because we know that although we may see Robert Downey Junior again in a cameo capacity we will never again have an Iron Man movie because he is done and it is beautiful and I want that for everyone of the characters I watch and love to feel satisfied that with however their storing concludes knowing that my personal investment in them is not being used as a trick as a gotcha moment.
@@LiamCatterson It's okay. I am an empathic emotion junkie. I imagine a lot of us who watch reactors are? I felt more bad for you. Poor Oliver. I am scared now who else are they going to kill? Yikes!
Winn is going to appear in 3 episodes in the 2nd half of the season. Episode 11 and 12 are titled “Back From the Future” Part 1 and Part 2, so he’ll probably be in those. And probably the episode after since it’s the 100th.
Ps Oliver is the best part of anything arrow verse related at all. If they don’t pull some twist and have him do a more justifiable way to end his story it would honestly be a disgrace and slap in the face if that’s it simply
Yeah I've seen people not too happy with the way Oliver's story looks to have ended but to be honest, saving a billion lives is pretty heroic. And I know people should say that he should be the one to end it but honestly, the fact Barry in the comics only was a thorn in the Anti Monitor's side when he died brings Oliver's apparent demise similar feelings.
Ryan Freese agreed. No footage showing any of his epic final battle, really?! His death felt rushed and just tacked onto the end and what was really annoying me was people kept zapping into the room distracting me from the mood when Oliver was lying there DYING!!! Sure it’s cool that he saved all those people, but imho our Oliver deserved better😢I can’t even begin to imagine this universe without him as he has been the only reason I watch....
I never thought they would just do this to Green Arrow. I guess Oliver Queen died as he lived - over-extending himself to save people at the cost of his own wellbeing. Then again, as precedent with Black Canary, they can always just nonchalantly kill off the original and replace them with the one from another earth that we just met this episode(Yeah I am still not over that). Which I guess could be the post-crisis story for Arrow if the AU Oliver survives. Would certainly be ironic and fitting in meta sense for those two pillars of Green Arrow storyline to share that same fate. And yeah I guess the red lightning is a tease for possible negative speedforce storyline after Crisis from Rebirth.
It's funny you mention that, Marc recently came out with the fact he still, to this day, has no regrets for doing E1 Laurel dirty, stating her story was done and I cannot help but call bullshit on that one. Why bring E2 Laurel back? Heck, Flashpoint could've twisted her story and basically have the same impact with E2 Laurel, if Ralph can come back to life.
@@LiamCatterson It would have been SOOOO EASY to use time shenanigans or anything in Legends or even this crisis to basically fuse the characters or something. OR Laurel could have just gone off somewhere and returned month latter with pro-superhero skills like literally every other new superhero in arrowverse. It really feels like he is in denial, refusing to admit having made a mistake.
@@MyFeuerFrey Exactly my thoughts when he said this. It takes a bigger person to admit their mistakes, and if you were done with Laurel's story, you wouldn't have brought two incarnations of Laurel but hey...
First episode of Crisis was absolutely stunningly perfection 😭😢😭 the ending though Oliver saved a BILLION PEOPLE holy crap and it was 3 billion survived out of 7.53 billion they could cut most of Lena out for other stuff though but still was perfect
Yeah, I am convinced our Oliver will somehow be brought back to fulfil his duties to this Crisis. But it does make me think Earth 16 Oliver may be the one Felicity goes and sees
This was Phenomenal. Absolutely phenomenal first part to Crisis on Infinite Earths. Watched it this morning. Still reeling... Can’t wait for part 2. How are the red skies now in Durham?
Liam Catterson Yeah I started watching Arrow in 2012 I was 15 now at 23 this show has been in my life for so long that I am very attached to the characters. I am sure we will see him again maybe not alive but we will see him before it’s over.
Koram I cried more watching TH-cam than the actual episode. It all happened so fast live that I think I was in shock and now it’s hitting me....Oliver is really going to be gone.😢
Love the intro😁 So... I finally gave up and started watching Arrowvers again. And no... I didn't record my reactions, but I'm ok with that. This was an interesting experience. Looking forward to watching this too.
I'm guessing out of the 4billion who died. Those were people in like a Africa and middle east as it's in the other side of the world. I'm pretty sure all of USA was evacuated
I'd give you a massive hug if I was there, Liam buddy. I'm so angry right now, this is NOT how we were supposed to say goodbye to our big main hero boy Oliver, it was too rushed into and it's a big mess. So I don't blame you for feeling the way you are right now, man, those producers are forever now in my bad books. I'll be with you every step of the way, man
What you did in the beginning of the video is what I wish they did on the show. Just show one of the earths being our earth and the CW showrunners looking shocked and being destroyed. It would both be a nice joke as well as helping establish that this time, the characters have to do it themselves, without anyone telling them what to do.
spectacular. I have the bad luck that in Latin America not even Batwoman S1E1 started broadcasting, I don't know when the crossover will start here. meanwhile they transmit until chapter 6 or 7 of each series, except batwoman.
So let me guess: Nash unleashed the Anti-Monitor there, if Monitor knew Nash would do that ... why didn't he just say "The multiverse can be saved, stop Nash Wells."
I mean, I am sure the Anti Monitor would've been released later in some degree, possibly by some other force. Just Pariah made his release earlier than expected, like how Crisis rolled back to 2019.
"Earlier today I was looking at Sara... I realized something... one of these days it's going to be me. This life that I've chosen... it only ends one way." 3x02
Thank you :D What this episode did amplified it because I hadn't planned on the Earth listing segment but I felt like that just made what I planned better
They might bring Oliver to Nada Parbat and bring him back to life just for Crisis .... like Roy, Thea, Sara ... imaging Oliver with Blood lust for Crisis (wishful thinking) Or Martian Manhunter could give the Old man Oliver , the same memories as our Earth 1 Oliver 🤔
%%Crisis on infinite earths *SPOILERS*%% Don’t click read more if you don’t know what HAS *HAPPENED*!!! They could go back in time and use the monitors influence on the league of assassins and that timelines ras al goul to say this man the green arrow needs to use the lazurous pit to fulfill his destiny and have Oliver die when he was actually supposed to die and let the Oliver that comes out slightly more damaged that came back from death recover in the past so he is his own self when fighting in crisis
RIP Alura. She died doing what she loved: sending small children away in Kryptonian pods to Earth right before her planet's destruction.
Wow xD I mean, you're not wrong xD
She's coming back as lois lane Smallville tonight
Monitor: You can't change fate. Obey Oliver.
Oliver Queen: Shoots Monitor and sacrifices himself therefore changing the future probably saving Barry and Kara :)
Monitor: Damn
Mallory Newman what if by his choices there cause Kara to have to die as well and Barry?
I have watched super girl since like season 2 and before season 2 ended I stopped so I’m not caught up on if she plays a bigger role due to the monitor visiting her previously
@@mixednarwhal the only time the monitor was is super girl was to test John(Martian man hunter) and to bring lex Luther back to life. Kara only ever interacted with her during elseworlds
What makes you think we are erth prime we could be earth 2,3,4,5,6 so on
@@mixednarwhal Probably because the Flash and Supergirl are not cancelled and also the whole future was changed when Oliver killed himself because that was not the original future that the Monitor saw when he informed Barry and Kara of their deaths earlier in their respective seasons . Plus the future has always been a fluid thing for the Arrowverse. I know that a lot of people are wanting a true adaptation of the Crises On Infinite Earths, but you have to keep in mind that the Arrowverse is a universe that will more than likely continue after this event is over , so I don't think that they will kill all three of their leads and keep them dead for any length of time more than a few episodes. Now it is my personal belief that the Flash will die in his series finale. You can only kill the same character a couple of times , my opinion on this limit is three before their death loses all meaning., like Rory from Doctor Who it got to the point where his death was a running joke and i feel that when Kara and Barry do die their deaths should be handled with a sense of permanency that I don't know if they would allow if that occurred now because their shows are still slated to continue.
I am welcome to the other option happening but I feel like a hero's sacrifice is a big deal and it should be saved for the end. Let's face it we all know Oliver is probably going to come back via a parallel Earth version of him if I had to guess I would say Oliver Queen from Earth 16 the 2046 version, and will probably die in the way Monitor originally foresaw but I truly believe that version of Oliver the version of Oliver that we have watched grow over eight seasons died last night in the way that he lived sticking it to Authority and doing things his way for the benefit of the people and I think that is really beautiful and I think that powerful moment would be undercut if we were to see that version of Oliver again except in flashbacks. That's what I want for all the main characters in characters in general for any show. I want to get to the end of a character's Journey and feel like they got the character right and it makes sense. I don't want a beautifully written ending for us to be teased that a character is going to leave when we know they aren't because it doesn't make logistical sense and the actor hasn't expressed they are leaving yet or we see pictures of them onset and it's pretty clear that we've been lied to that makes up beautiful ending far less impactful if you are to watch it again after hearing that news because you know it's not the end that there's more it stop me from getting more emotionally invested in a character story and I hate that. I am not ashamed to say that last night I cried the death of Oliver Queen like I cried at Iron Man's death in endgame because we know that although we may see Robert Downey Junior again in a cameo capacity we will never again have an Iron Man movie because he is done and it is beautiful and I want that for everyone of the characters I watch and love to feel satisfied that with however their storing concludes knowing that my personal investment in them is not being used as a trick as a gotcha moment.
@@mallorynewman1696 arrow isnt cancelled. The show is ending on it's own terms
Oliver falls on the ground with his arrows. Oliver stands up, Arrows disappeared. They overlooked that during the editing hahahaha.
Side note: grant and Stephens acting is out of this world(s)
Damnit Catterson. I didn't even cry last night when I watched this, then I watch you react and I am sobbing. /hugs
Oh no :( Sorrrrryyyy
@@LiamCatterson It's okay. I am an empathic emotion junkie. I imagine a lot of us who watch reactors are? I felt more bad for you. Poor Oliver. I am scared now who else are they going to kill? Yikes!
R.I.P. to: M'gann, Ma'alefa'ak, Mon El, and WINN!!!
Lena: "Don't think this changes anything between us, Hoss."
You don't know that!
Winn is going to appear in 3 episodes in the 2nd half of the season. Episode 11 and 12 are titled “Back From the Future” Part 1 and Part 2, so he’ll probably be in those. And probably the episode after since it’s the 100th.
Ah shoot, I forgot them. But yeah, I heard Winn is going to appear in a few episodes time.
What about James though?
Oh honey! HUGS*** I had the same reaction. Also Barry holding on to Oliver's arm while putting his hand on mia's shoulder I'M FINE
Bar...My poor heart
Kryptonians need to learn to build bigger ships
WORD!!
I'm just watching all reaction videos and crying AF.
Sending all the virtual hugs to you, Liam. Wish I could give you one IRL after watching one of earth's warriors
I hope that, that is a fake Oliver death as I found it slightly underwhelming the fact that the “killing blows” happened off screen
He is in the synopsis in episode 3. Dunno if that's another version of Oliver or just a red herring, but I don't think he's dead
@@lewis0705 Also would we really get a part 4 on Arrow without Oliver Queen?
I ain’t accepting that’s how Oliver went out
Never seen your channel before. But that intro got my sub lol
Ps Oliver is the best part of anything arrow verse related at all. If they don’t pull some twist and have him do a more justifiable way to end his story it would honestly be a disgrace and slap in the face if that’s it simply
Yeah I've seen people not too happy with the way Oliver's story looks to have ended but to be honest, saving a billion lives is pretty heroic. And I know people should say that he should be the one to end it but honestly, the fact Barry in the comics only was a thorn in the Anti Monitor's side when he died brings Oliver's apparent demise similar feelings.
Ryan Freese agreed. No footage showing any of his epic final battle, really?! His death felt rushed and just tacked onto the end and what was really annoying me was people kept zapping into the room distracting me from the mood when Oliver was lying there DYING!!! Sure it’s cool that he saved all those people, but imho our Oliver deserved better😢I can’t even begin to imagine this universe without him as he has been the only reason I watch....
You made me subscribed with your intro dude, awesome
I never thought they would just do this to Green Arrow. I guess Oliver Queen died as he lived - over-extending himself to save people at the cost of his own wellbeing. Then again, as precedent with Black Canary, they can always just nonchalantly kill off the original and replace them with the one from another earth that we just met this episode(Yeah I am still not over that). Which I guess could be the post-crisis story for Arrow if the AU Oliver survives. Would certainly be ironic and fitting in meta sense for those two pillars of Green Arrow storyline to share that same fate.
And yeah I guess the red lightning is a tease for possible negative speedforce storyline after Crisis from Rebirth.
It's funny you mention that, Marc recently came out with the fact he still, to this day, has no regrets for doing E1 Laurel dirty, stating her story was done and I cannot help but call bullshit on that one. Why bring E2 Laurel back? Heck, Flashpoint could've twisted her story and basically have the same impact with E2 Laurel, if Ralph can come back to life.
@@LiamCatterson It would have been SOOOO EASY to use time shenanigans or anything in Legends or even this crisis to basically fuse the characters or something. OR Laurel could have just gone off somewhere and returned month latter with pro-superhero skills like literally every other new superhero in arrowverse.
It really feels like he is in denial, refusing to admit having made a mistake.
@@MyFeuerFrey Exactly my thoughts when he said this. It takes a bigger person to admit their mistakes, and if you were done with Laurel's story, you wouldn't have brought two incarnations of Laurel but hey...
@@MyFeuerFrey They made a bad choice by doing that mystery death grave plot. it was unnecessary. this is no GOT or the 100.
First episode of Crisis was absolutely stunningly perfection
😭😢😭 the ending though
Oliver saved a BILLION PEOPLE holy crap
and it was 3 billion survived out of 7.53 billion
they could cut most of Lena out for other stuff though but still was perfect
That is exactly what i said at the beginning , Barry had red lightning
Don't worry Liam.
He'll probably come back in any way or form.
Yeah, I am convinced our Oliver will somehow be brought back to fulfil his duties to this Crisis. But it does make me think Earth 16 Oliver may be the one Felicity goes and sees
This was Phenomenal. Absolutely phenomenal first part to Crisis on Infinite Earths.
Watched it this morning. Still reeling...
Can’t wait for part 2.
How are the red skies now in Durham?
I have been watching everyone’s reaction to this and I still cry every time Oliver dies.
It's something that is still raw :( The impact still stings so much. Hugggs
Liam Catterson Yeah I started watching Arrow in 2012 I was 15 now at 23 this show has been in my life for so long that I am very attached to the characters. I am sure we will see him again maybe not alive but we will see him before it’s over.
Koram I cried more watching TH-cam than the actual episode. It all happened so fast live that I think I was in shock and now it’s hitting me....Oliver is really going to be gone.😢
Love the intro😁 So... I finally gave up and started watching Arrowvers again. And no... I didn't record my reactions, but I'm ok with that. This was an interesting experience. Looking forward to watching this too.
Think it’s a red herring Oliver dying, he’s back in pt3 in some form
I just thought about this, James Olsen is dead
I'm guessing out of the 4billion who died. Those were people in like a Africa and middle east as it's in the other side of the world. I'm pretty sure all of USA was evacuated
Just as I thought I was past the sadness...
I'd give you a massive hug if I was there, Liam buddy. I'm so angry right now, this is NOT how we were supposed to say goodbye to our big main hero boy Oliver, it was too rushed into and it's a big mess. So I don't blame you for feeling the way you are right now, man, those producers are forever now in my bad books. I'll be with you every step of the way, man
Max Reed chill out. We still have 4 more episodes to conclude the crisis...I don’t think that’s actually how Oliver is gonna go out.
Max Reed I was disappointed as well. Oliver deserves better! Hopefully they fix it and he gets his epic send off!🤞
It's 2 years later, but I want to give you a big man hug. Hang in there (hope you did).
What you did in the beginning of the video is what I wish they did on the show. Just show one of the earths being our earth and the CW showrunners looking shocked and being destroyed. It would both be a nice joke as well as helping establish that this time, the characters have to do it themselves, without anyone telling them what to do.
What if John Constantine revives oliver
Shayaan Shamim What if I applauded you for your accuracy? 👏
spectacular. I have the bad luck that in Latin America not even Batwoman S1E1 started broadcasting, I don't know when the crossover will start here. meanwhile they transmit until chapter 6 or 7 of each series, except batwoman.
So let me guess: Nash unleashed the Anti-Monitor there, if Monitor knew Nash would do that ... why didn't he just say "The multiverse can be saved, stop Nash Wells."
I mean, I am sure the Anti Monitor would've been released later in some degree, possibly by some other force. Just Pariah made his release earlier than expected, like how Crisis rolled back to 2019.
Are Harbinger and Pariah in the same team
JashS4# Yusss
Hi!
Placing my hand on you and hugging you and saying my words“ i’m sorry truly I am”
like cap said in endgame”Let’s go get that sob”
"Earlier today I was looking at Sara... I realized something... one of these days it's going to be me. This life that I've chosen... it only ends one way." 3x02
The 2046 arrow will appear in the third episode
Maybe earth-16 arrow comes in
Loved your reactions when you saw titans 😂😂😂 love that show.
They caught me off-guard! Thank you xD
Are you going to react to the Legends of Tomorrow season 5 trailer that was just released?
legends Possibly not. I have stuff to get done shows wise before next week where I’m out all week pretty much
Gave you a thumbs up cause you sound like private from the penguins of madagascar lmao
liam catterson crisis is happening barry will still vanish in crisis
BlackPanther I have a theory and it relates to saving Oliver resulting in Barry’s demise
Liam Catterson oh don’t say that! Oliver would never stand for it lol!
The host of spectre is been cast.
Nice intro!
Thank you :D What this episode did amplified it because I hadn't planned on the Earth listing segment but I felt like that just made what I planned better
They might bring Oliver to Nada Parbat and bring him back to life just for Crisis .... like Roy, Thea, Sara ... imaging Oliver with Blood lust for Crisis (wishful thinking)
Or Martian Manhunter could give the Old man Oliver , the same memories as our Earth 1 Oliver 🤔
Teon Pierce nope, they can’t. Thea, Nyssa, and Roy destroyed all of the Lazarus pits
Natty Lite lol told u they would use Lazurus pit .😂 didn’t know they would make him Specter afterwards in this way tho
Teon Pierce yeah crazy! I didn’t even consider Lazarus pits on other earths!
%%Crisis on infinite earths *SPOILERS*%%
Don’t click read more if you don’t know what HAS *HAPPENED*!!!
They could go back in time and use the monitors influence on the league of assassins and that timelines ras al goul to say this man the green arrow needs to use the lazurous pit to fulfill his destiny and have Oliver die when he was actually supposed to die and let the Oliver that comes out slightly more damaged that came back from death recover in the past so he is his own self when fighting in crisis
Barry with the red lightning in the beginning was weird... that has to be intentional or something...???
Red lightning has been associated with negative speedforce so most likely foreshadowing for post-crisis storylines.