Constellation Episode 8: Who’s Vladimir & How Is Space Jo Alive?

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  • @thenextseason
    @thenextseason  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Hi everyone. The confusing dates were indeed errors, the creator of the show confirmed on an Instagram comment: "It takes place in 2021 and if there are any other dates on the screens then it’s a little mistake made very late at night by one of our incredibly hard working FX crew. Apologies!" Thought I would let you know!

    • @jammylynn4eva
      @jammylynn4eva 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      🫠

    • @OronoDiane
      @OronoDiane 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for the clarifying update!

  • @scubadawgy
    @scubadawgy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    Your right eye vs left eye theory is brilliant! I totally agree with it. I completely missed the pupil clue! Additionally, when she was being wheeled in on the stretcher, and saw the dead Irena, she sees her on her left side!

    • @kristineclevenger6705
      @kristineclevenger6705 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Good observation; I missed that. Now I want to go back to the episode & see that detail.

    • @thenextseason
      @thenextseason  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Thank you! Oh yeah she was on the left side!! I'll watch the episode again maybe there was something else I missed 🤔

    • @applezlady
      @applezlady 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      AGREE!! I’ve watched at least eight recap videos and you’re the only one I saw to bring this up. Amazing. Good job.!!!!

  • @scubadawgy
    @scubadawgy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Jo's womb is now Schrodinger's box! 😊 The baby is in superposition!

    • @kristineclevenger6705
      @kristineclevenger6705 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Did you read another reviewer's comment that the ultrasound date is 2010 ? Another curiosity that doesn't make sense to me. The channel host thinks it's an editing error.

    • @thenextseason
      @thenextseason  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I only think it's an editing error because I don't have any other idea how that could be possible 🤷‍♀️

  • @ChrisEOlive
    @ChrisEOlive 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Completely agree on Jo’s eye. We didn’t think it was dead/blind, that she somehow took on Blue Jo’s eye. But I think extending that into her seeing into both universes is absolutely correct. Great pickup!

  • @xXNekou
    @xXNekou 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    So sad this show got cancelled :((

  • @OronoDiane
    @OronoDiane 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Another terrific analysis video.
    Your videos on this show are the best- thank you for helping us detangle everything!

  • @warrick3w881
    @warrick3w881 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I like the eye theory 🤔 and since the cal is no longer in play maybe along with the pregnancy (baby being from both realities) she is actually Able to look into both realities. I would like to think there is a reason for the many different dates and time jumps rather than just a continuity error.
    But I strongly think there is something special about Alice

    • @kristineclevenger6705
      @kristineclevenger6705 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Both Alices are very special girls - problem solvers - willing to look more deeply - devoted to family. I love them both!

  • @Klayhamn
    @Klayhamn 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    it would be criminal if they don't renew this

    • @billbaggins1688
      @billbaggins1688 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Leave it be. I was happy with the ending.

    • @Klayhamn
      @Klayhamn 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@billbaggins1688 it clearly did not end. Henry does not belong in jail. Bud does belong in jail.
      And that's without even getting into Red Jo and Red Alice not reuniting.
      there is no closure and no conclusion to the story yet.

    • @rajeshranjan3199
      @rajeshranjan3199 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It would be criminal if they renew this.

    • @Klayhamn
      @Klayhamn 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rajeshranjan3199 why didn't you like it?

  • @kristineclevenger6705
    @kristineclevenger6705 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I very much enjoyed episode 8 & give Constellation a 9/10 rating. I support your theory about Jo's ability to see both realities, e.g. the deranged astronaut upstairs. It hadn't occurred to me that her left eye was still serving a purpose. Thanks for that insight! Seeing the mirror images, in the same room, of Blue Alice's & Red Alice's wardrobes was a revealing effect that the wardrobe conversations were happening at the same time. This is also true for Magnus sitting before his therapist. We see him as a double with different clothing, & he says "It feels like we're all floating in space." I was pleased to see Irena's understanding help to Jo, encouraging her to live because what's been done can't be undone. I don't know if that's completely true, but now Jo sees the wisdom in taking the pills so she can return home to Magnus & Alice with a baby in her womb. To me, both Alices are adorable. I loved Blue Alice's calm honesty with Jo - I need a mummy & Jo's reply that she needs an Alice. That was beautiful! At the end, Irena's conversation with Alice, on the stairs, revealed 2 details: friends call her Valya, which Alice quietly processed AND "down the rabbit hole with you, Alice." Alice will bear the task of sorting through whatever transpires in season 2.

    • @thenextseason
      @thenextseason  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I kind of got the impression that Jo won't try to return to her original world. But maybe if she learns new information she may think she has a chance.

    • @kristineclevenger6705
      @kristineclevenger6705 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@thenextseason I have the same impression - no returning to her previous self. Jo will conform. Did I mislead with what I first wrote?

    • @Radimunto
      @Radimunto 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@thenextseason If Jo tries to return to her original world, she's dead and the other Jo alive again.

    • @OronoDiane
      @OronoDiane 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I think Jo will try to return to her original Alice at some point. Mostly because of the "moral" or "message" of the story. If Jo remains in the wrong universe, the message we are left with is that people are interchangeable. Like Jo said to Alice," ... and I need an Alice..." She's saying she needs AN Alice, but I think over time she will miss HER Alice. A person's counterpart isn't them. Even, like we learned with Bud/ Henry though they have the same DNA. Our experiences make us different. And I think Jo is going to be haunted by that.

    • @kristineclevenger6705
      @kristineclevenger6705 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The shining star in this story is Alice. Jo realizes she’s unable to return to the family she knew, so she will accept the Magnus & Alice she’s able to share life with, even though memories are different. Together they will face life’s offerings. It seems the story writer is playing with the possibilities of the entanglement theory. I read that a 2022 Nobel prize was given to several physicists for their research on entanglement.

  • @hanzosiku
    @hanzosiku 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video and take on Jo's left eye as a window into the other dimension. Episode 8 was frustrating to watch but I really enjoyed the show.

  • @NadiaR-sm8mr
    @NadiaR-sm8mr 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You are right on! Glad to find your channel
    Thanks

  • @jayamo-addae415
    @jayamo-addae415 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You're really the best at this, Great breakdowns!!!!!

    • @thenextseason
      @thenextseason  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much 😊

  • @roccobruno8027
    @roccobruno8027 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    My issue with Jo smacking up against the glass and dying is the fact that it would take a full grown silverback gorilla charging at full speed to maybe just maybe put a crack in that glass...but hey. Other than that I thoroughly enjoyed the show and I thought that Rosie and Davina were awesome. Which Paul is it?

    • @marcuswarren8170
      @marcuswarren8170 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The hole was already there and why she got sucked there so hard. There wasn't gravity to make her fall. Just too bad she did get pulled ass first

    • @kordobachi
      @kordobachi 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think there is already a hole in the glass due to the debris that hit the ISS. I can see the cracks there even before she hit. Cant explain how wet wipes close the hole though 😅

  • @willmonetrenoir1420
    @willmonetrenoir1420 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bud decided to give him his flowers while he was still alive. Diabolical

  • @bab3947
    @bab3947 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great theory and analysis. Really has me thinking

  • @mojorocketman
    @mojorocketman 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The biggest problem I have is when Jo hits the window, there's no way glass in a space station would break so easily with her face and make a bullet hole. And sticking a baby wipe would prevent the leak??? A normal person in danger would use his or her hands and arms to protect themselves. I'm more on the side of Jo going through a mental breakdown because she's unhappy with her life and is imagining the whole parallel universe and how she believes that her family is in a different world yet there's nothing really that different about them. I noticed her claiming she now plays the piano but she never plays for anyone to prove it. I have a friend who goes through this similar mental state where she believes she can play the guitar, but can't and makes strange excuses. She gets this way when she uses meth and goes into psychosis. She'll think her mom is a replacement mom, and someone replaced her body parts with someone else's. No matter how I explain reality with logic, she will keep changing her narrative to perpetuate her delusions.

    • @JulieBarbara
      @JulieBarbara 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I get what you're saying but I think that scene with her eye making the hole and them plugging it with a baby wipe was just a weak point in the writing. I also noticed that made no sense. I do think the show is using a theme of mental illness, hence the lithium pills for "bipolar" astronauts and the seeming delusions. But in episode 8 we see both Alices interact without the presence of Jo or any astronaut who may be imagining things. They also saw each other at Jo's funeral in the red universe. Is Alice experiencing psychosis too? I don't think so and I don't think the show would cop out like that and give such a disappointing explanation for all this, that it's all just in Jo's head. Sadly we'll never get more answers now but I think the show did enough to get the message across that there are parallel universes with a liminal space in between.

    • @willscorner8423
      @willscorner8423 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JulieBarbarait’s not. Damages or holes on the iss are being covered with thin foil as well. So no, no weak point in writing. The ISS isn’t such a tough structure as people often think. It’s made of very thin and light materials - because you gotta get all the stuff up there, end every gramm more costs a lot. So the ISS can easily be fixed when it comes to damages or holes, as long as cables and so on aren’t irreparable damaged. Thin foil for example is more than enough.

  • @33donnally
    @33donnally 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I am even more confused after the finale! The main problem is not knowing if certain things are Easter eggs or continuity issues! The date on Jo’s ultra sound was 2020! The car in the “blue” universe has been a Volvo, but when Magnus goes to the sanitarium it is a VW Passat. Jo somehow has different clothes on when speaking to Magnus about the baby than she did when she spoke with Alice even though it’s supposedly mins later. I find it hard to believe that the show runners would have this many continuity issues so what is going on? I really really hope there is a season 2 because there is so much left unanswered!

    • @kristineclevenger6705
      @kristineclevenger6705 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My vision is too blurry to be sure, but others state the ultrasound has a 2010 date. I hadn't noticed the different car makes, but I did spot Jo's different clothing during the same Magnus/Alice visit. Outside the facility she's wearing what we've been seeing on her, & then inside, magically, she has on a different outfit. I didn't notice change with Magnus' clothing, but now I'm wondering. I love this series, as there's so much to decipher from shifting realities to who's who. I re-watch the episodes several times to see the changes & catch what other reviewers noticed.

    • @TangoNevada
      @TangoNevada 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You need to watch this show with a pad and pencil connecting all the dots as it progresses. Or the "Normal" persons corkboard with red yarn.

    • @Faustin_Ducasse
      @Faustin_Ducasse 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I work at a hospital operation theatre as a nurse and in isolated places or old almost run down government hospitals, staff including me aren't told to or compelled to keep the time and date up to date on machine's like these@@kristineclevenger6705

  • @THEREAL999WRLD
    @THEREAL999WRLD 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You’re the best at these. Very articulate. Deep thinking. Thank you very much! Have you watched Dark on Netflix? It’s my favorite show all time, followed by The Shield. I would love to watch your Dark recap. I think this is right up your alley.

    • @thenextseason
      @thenextseason  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you soo much! I did watch Dark and it's one of my favourite shows on Netflix. I think I watched it three times 🤗 Recap video is a good idea but I don't have a kind of following that would get me good views on videos like that, maybe in the future ❤️

  • @Alex_Greu_de_gasit
    @Alex_Greu_de_gasit 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Awesome video, thanks! I wonder, when did Jo's ability to simultaneously see both universes started? Because she never had it before. Was it because of the electroshocks that the received? Also, check out the date on the ultrasound - it's 01-02-2010, which in Russia would be February 1st, 2010...

    • @juanjoseleonvarea2495
      @juanjoseleonvarea2495 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Perhaps it is because the man is in the same state as her of alternating between universes. Just like her daughter who can see the other version of her and her mother who are in the blue Universe. Or the scene from a previous episode in which Herry sees from his office two Alices on the street, entering the garage one after the other, where one Alice sees how the other throws the stuffed animal to the ground and steps on it in the puddle.

    • @kristineclevenger6705
      @kristineclevenger6705 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Another reviewer, on another channel, had the same observation. My vision is too blurry to see the date. So what does that mean exactly? That's an 11 year difference - Alice's age.

    • @thenextseason
      @thenextseason  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for your comment. I didn't notice that date, to be honest. And it doesn't make sense at all. I'm starting to think that's a continuity error too. What other explanation could there be?

    • @Alex_Greu_de_gasit
      @Alex_Greu_de_gasit 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@thenextseason Well, an explanation would be that Russian nuns are not good at working out the settings on that machine :)

    • @darthgzuz
      @darthgzuz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Did we see the cabin scenes from previous episodes? Where Jo tried to put Alice in warm water n then runs off to save other Alice. She was seeing all this the day she returned home I think.

  • @ThisIsHolyJJ
    @ThisIsHolyJJ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video.
    I'm disappointed that Apple cancelled this show. I really hope that they do have a change of heart and give us a second season someday. Constellation was so much better than most other Apple shows like Invasion, which are mediocre, at best.

    • @thenextseason
      @thenextseason  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! And I agree with what you said. Apple TV always cancels the best shows :(

    • @AhmadFauziPurwandono
      @AhmadFauziPurwandono 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Is there any Series with same kind of genre like this? I always like movies/series about alternate or parallel universe.

  • @batmoto13
    @batmoto13 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Work of art, cancelled. Wasn’t reaching high enough viewership to satisfy Apple executives.

  • @FracturedReality
    @FracturedReality 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That was a good breakdown and explains most of the things, yes I agree with you that there is time dilation between both universes.
    Irene the director is coming to terms that her counterpart was killed in the alternate universe, she has been giving the astronaut lithium to keep their sanity presuming if they go into space it affecting their minds losing control of reality., She has a Eureka moment when she sees the ultrasound of the the fetus Image showing two overlapping BEC's connecting the CAL experiment. Joe when she goes upstairs and sees the first astronaut and his counterpart, is because the fetus BEC's is allowing her to see them, you have to remember that the CAL has been destroyed. And Henry thinks he can prove his innocence because he thinks he has traded places with this counterpart in a mirror universe showing a left hand helix., He does not realize that they switch consciousness, and not physically trading places with a mirror universe, thus reflecting a DNA of a right hand helix. Joe's counterpart was left on the ISS because she was dead I don't know why they even showed her holding the tablet., and how they're going to bring her back to life in the next season.

  • @Time2Fly74
    @Time2Fly74 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Enjoyed Constellation's debut season even though a lot of the universe swapping flies right over my head & take multiple watches to pick up all the finer details.

    • @thenextseason
      @thenextseason  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's normal. I had to rewatch certain episodes understand some stuff

  • @LeonBosset
    @LeonBosset 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Smart take on the episode!

  • @JulieBarbara
    @JulieBarbara 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Omg what fantastic theories and insights. Especially about the baby possibly being able to switch universes or maybe it'll be twins. Just makes me even more upset that this didn't get renewed for Season 2. 😭😭😭 I think it was because this show was so esoteric and didn't spoon feed the narrative to the viewer, so it went over people's heads and they weren't willing to do the work to understand. 😔

  • @veritysmart
    @veritysmart 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    From the very first episode the mirror universe was implied from the moment you saw Buds reflection. My first thought was this reminds me of Fringe (very good series if you’re interested, also has the concept of a mirror universe.)

    • @thenextseason
      @thenextseason  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Another commenter also recommended Fringe and it's on my watch list. I'll definitely watch it soon!!

  • @mdouet
    @mdouet 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'm ok with questions being left unanswered as long as we get a Season 2.

    • @thenextseason
      @thenextseason  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Fingers crossed

    • @kristineclevenger6705
      @kristineclevenger6705 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agreed! Questions left unanswered is fine.

  • @scubadawgy
    @scubadawgy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    How are there 3 (or 4) tape players!!? Bud/Henry finds one in the car and they don't show him putting it back. We also saw one burn/melt. Then at the end, each Alice still had theirs.

    • @kristineclevenger6705
      @kristineclevenger6705 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes, curious indeed. They are each in different realities, & we saw 1 tape player melt in the fire.

    • @thenextseason
      @thenextseason  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I think there are only 2? The burnt one was in a blue liminal space. The one that blonged to the real blue reality, Jo found it and left it in her car. Bud used that in episode 8. I assumed when he left it there, it must have been returned to Magnus & Alice with their other belongings. The one in the red reality was safe anyway. And Red Alice used that one

  • @josephphillips3985
    @josephphillips3985 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Holy smokes, i didn't catch the pupil reaction to light. Thats super interesting!

  • @CristiCroicu
    @CristiCroicu 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Here goes my theory: At some point in history, there was a divergence in the universe. The original timeline (the 3rd timeline where we saw JO and both Alice "meet") created 2 separate timelines. The reason for that is unknown at this moment. However, I presume that at some point (if this tv show will be continued) we will get more info about the 3rd timeline (the original one). Also, bear in mind, at some point in the show, Jo explained that time moves different for someone in space compared to someone that lives on earth. So, maybe, the answer is that sending Laika into space, made the Universe split into 3 timelines, and from that point onwards, there are crossings between them

  • @scubadawgy
    @scubadawgy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Mirrored realities: based on this 0:17, it looks like my theory that the gas and brake pedals are reversed/mirrored in the Blue universe is correct (a comment I made on your last video. 😊 :
    In ep. 7, when Jo slams on the brakes while driving on the lake (at 32:56), they show a closeup of her stomping in the right pedal. That's the accelerator, not the brake pedal, at least in our universe.

    • @thenextseason
      @thenextseason  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I would have never noticed that myself lol. Great catch!

  • @leejones3061
    @leejones3061 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love how people took a date off a screen and ran with it

  • @mattstone9364
    @mattstone9364 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like your “eye” theory.

  • @YannMetalhead
    @YannMetalhead 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video!

  • @carlosponchio1869
    @carlosponchio1869 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nooni Baby. Because of you I watched the whole 8 episodes. Have not understood S.

    • @thenextseason
      @thenextseason  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I understand where you're coming from. She's gorgeous.

  • @banaweekidane2630
    @banaweekidane2630 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your reallt smart, i actuslly have a degree in film studies and i missed the eye thing, odds are your correct
    I bet season 2 will prove you right

  • @gelasticseizure
    @gelasticseizure 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like your ideas. I think they are hinting that there is a third universe. One red, one blue, and one that is in between the two. Henry said as much in one of the early episodes.

  • @mugenamaterasu
    @mugenamaterasu 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    anyone noticed how jo shed tears one eye at a time?

  • @willmonetrenoir1420
    @willmonetrenoir1420 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    OMG!! So that is what happened in the end?? So there is a way to get back. Joan will not be able to get back however because then she will return to a body that is completely disfigured. This is great

  • @Stevensterni
    @Stevensterni 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I agree that Jo can see both realities, but there is only one Jo in one. That means that she must also be able to interact with other realities to see inside the other reality room

  • @itsbigcliff5178
    @itsbigcliff5178 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love your reviews....have you done one on the TV show SEVERANCE

    • @thenextseason
      @thenextseason  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No I haven't but I'm planning on doing for Season 2. I watched season 1 though and it became one of my favorite shows ever!!

  • @DARKSINNER-1
    @DARKSINNER-1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If in one reality Joe is dead ( presume dead left in space) and other reality she is alive, but in the father is not in shock to bring his daughter to see her (dead mother) in both reality Magnus isn’t surprised to see his wife. Even if she is suppose to be dead .

  • @TangoNevada
    @TangoNevada 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I guess the show runners are saying there are only 2 "universes", but that doesn't seem right, based on their own premise of the Observer Effect. There should be one that is Black, One that is white and one where it is both Black and White. It seems like most of the Black and White universes happen at the cabin, but not all. Like when Alice is talking to Alice, that is the Universe where it's both Black and White. My question is who is the observer that is effecting the outcome? Is it us the viewers of the show, or the characters in the show?

  • @viviana_kt
    @viviana_kt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Somehow I feel suspicious about the “timeline” theory that u have mentioned. My guess is time somehow stopped in one of the universe, so they stuck in 2021/2020. I’ve noticed that too when Paul talked about ‘the 9 years old girls’ with his daughter Wendy. I’ve always been bad at physics in school but my education in filmmaking makes me think we saw an anomaly like in one universe only people can move freely (3rd dimension) but time never, like something is weird with the 4th dimension (time). ‘Uni A Jo’ is not a timetraveller but came back to a ‘stucked’ reality. Alice can see the Valya corpse bc of it can exist regardless of time and 3D, and it speaks bc of the liminal space and observation effect. In earlier episodes Irena talks about how she always dreams of orbiting to Earth/floating in space. Time stopped for her too in the parallel universe. 🤓🤯🤔

    • @thenextseason
      @thenextseason  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You might be right but I'm not sure at all. All the time differences could be the most confusing thing about this series. I don't know if they did it intentionally and there's meaning behind it somehow or is it an error? I'm not sure. I have to watch the entire season perhaps to fully understand everything

  • @michaellalli7693
    @michaellalli7693 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just finished the series and was underwhelmed. Severance was much better. More interested in Severance season two than Constellation. Just my two cents. Thanks for the recap.

  • @ptcollura
    @ptcollura 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes. I understand what you mean. I understand quantum entanglement.

  • @elypearl826
    @elypearl826 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Quantum mechanics and its paradoxes, are beyond intuitive understanding. (The math works so we can use it. ) i didnt think it worked as a plot device. There are no rules, anything possible, and nothing will ever be resolved since it cant be understood etc. Does anyone else here get what i mean?

    • @thenextseason
      @thenextseason  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I understand you're saying but I think the show will create some in-universe rules about how all of this works there

  • @robrirk
    @robrirk 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So if there are only 2 worlds, last episode shows one of the tape players melting in the cabin fire. But this episode shows 2 tape players existing since red Alice try to communicate with blue Alice.

    • @thenextseason
      @thenextseason  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      2 worlds plus a liminal space where we saw people and objects from both worlds can coexist at the same. I gave this explanation in another comment. I'm not 100% sure about it but here's what I think: the burnt tape recorder was in the blue liminal space. The one that belonged to the real blue reality, Jo found it and left it in her car. Bud used that in episode 8. I assumed when he left it there, it must have been returned to Magnus & Alice with their other belongings. The one in the red reality was safe anyway. And Red Alice used that one.

    • @robrirk
      @robrirk 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thenextseason I thought about that but wasn’t the cabin in the liminal space not on fire?

    • @thenextseason
      @thenextseason  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have to go rewatch the episode now 😂

  • @KorhalKk
    @KorhalKk 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This liminal space could be right, but I'm sure that on episode 7 and 8, Joan and her husband try to find their different daughters and they are not in any of the houses while they are talking on the recorder. At that time there were 4 different realities.

  • @magnus33john
    @magnus33john 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The time isn't a editing mistake and it's hinted at very early on. When she getting the batteries things go crazy and when back on the station she says i lost time.

  • @danielmucha1100
    @danielmucha1100 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing insights! I thought I got everything by myself but no. However I wonder about Bud and Henry exchange. It seems this time they exchanged only conciousness through universes and no physical bodies somehow. Even the DNA remains the same (Henry asked the FBI). Maybe it's possible that they identical DNA but that doesn't make sense. The clothes remained the same during the exchange too.

    • @thenextseason
      @thenextseason  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, I think it's only the consciousness

  • @anastassiabnphotography
    @anastassiabnphotography 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How come nobody takks about why Alice sees her counterpart and also other participants (like dead astronaut?) - she wasn’t in space… was it because she observed the realities split?

  • @kristijan8518
    @kristijan8518 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How did Alice get involved with the liminal space? Everyone that was affected by it, went to space. She is the only one from Earth who can see glimpses of both universes.

    • @thenextseason
      @thenextseason  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Some say it was probably because she saw the CAL device while talking to her mother through the video call. Maybe there's another reason we don't know yet

    • @pete6705
      @pete6705 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Her teacher says she is 10 which is a liminal age. I thought maybe that was the explanation

  • @scubadawgy
    @scubadawgy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The ultrasound machine does say 2010 (01/02/10). Hopefully that's a continuity error.

    • @thenextseason
      @thenextseason  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah that was really confusing

    • @angelikafieseler741
      @angelikafieseler741 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@thenextseason 1 wonder if they were in 2010 and that was Alice ultrasound (she is 10 or 11 in 2021) and now they are2 Alice's so both Jo and Alie slipped realities Idont know just a random thought

  • @kibkaos
    @kibkaos 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think that the daughter(s) are dquantumly entangled and that although Jo is trying to make peace with the daughter in this reality she will continually be 'haunted by her original daughter.Can there be a transference between daughters>. They were abole to change realities at the funerals. so itis possible. This show is so wonderfully confusing!

  • @jm844
    @jm844 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    LoL, left eye . Nope, she saw them with both eyes, and the pain wasn't till after the electric shock treatment

  • @darthgzuz
    @darthgzuz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How Bud was able to switch his relaoties but not Jo or Irena or Paul.
    Will others be able to switch their relaties like Bud did but how he achieved that?

    • @azizzjr
      @azizzjr 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Death. He probably froze to death on the ice lake which caused him to swap, same thing with Paul. He got shot, died for a short time and his body was "inhabited" by the mirrored version - hence him looking at his arms with that scared expression on his face, he lost it in space. It appears that if you die, your "self" gets replaced with the dead version from the mirrored version.

    • @thenextseason
      @thenextseason  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I would say heightened emotional state & approximity to death have to do with it

    • @billbaggins1688
      @billbaggins1688 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thenextseason So what was the CAL for?

  • @clueless-lassi-joins-internet
    @clueless-lassi-joins-internet 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What If...! _The First Cosmonaut_ Is Jo's Son??
    Calling Her Mumma? Not Just Multiverse But Time travel too
    What If Jo's Twin Have The Same Capability Similar Or Greater Than That Of CAL Machine. What If They Can Travel Through Universes!
    I Want Jo To Reach Her Own Alice.

  • @billbaggins1688
    @billbaggins1688 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How did Paul swap? If his doppelganger was dead?

    • @thenextseason
      @thenextseason  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't think your counterpart is %100 dead as long as you're alive. That would be my explanation.

  • @itsbigcliff5178
    @itsbigcliff5178 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well to me, a liminal space would be a 3rd reality .. I mean, it's not reality red or reality Blue it's something else....a Shrodinger cat timeline ...imo?

    • @thenextseason
      @thenextseason  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's one way to look at it :)

  • @x2for10x
    @x2for10x 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Eye doesn't make sense.... She couldn't see Alice in the mirror...
    Whole season makes no sense...
    1. How does Alice know how to record with tapes in 2021... She's only 9 she doesn't even know what a tape is??
    Will dead Jo and dead Irena join forces?
    2. The tape player burned up in the fire . How did she get a new one????!

    • @gelfie2208
      @gelfie2208 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The show does not make sense, and a lot of it is continuity issues or plot holes. However:
      1. It's a children's toy, she's obviously been messing around with it since she was a toddler, so the concept of how to use and record a cassette is perfectly feasible.
      2. There is our reality, in which Jo was launched into space. There is a second reality, in which Joe returned to earth. And there is the superpositional state. Where both those realities are one and the same. This is the between, or liminal space they have been talking about. Jo, as we follow her, is predominately experiencing the second reality (with the blue car and the wrong Alice). But now and then she gets a peek into her original reality. And sometimes, as when she grabbed the disembodied arm, and saw the uninjured Paul, she experiences both at once.
      People coming back from space seem to be experiencing 2 states of being and a 3rd which is a combination of the two. The CAL could have somehow broken reality entirely and therefore this also explains Irena. Or it has nothing to do with the CAL at all. More likely: it's sloppy writing.

  • @Radimunto
    @Radimunto 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So you're sure that Paul is now the dead Paul living again and the other one is dead?

    • @thenextseason
      @thenextseason  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's what I got from that short scene of his

    • @Radimunto
      @Radimunto 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thenextseason Yeah, maybe.

  • @yyEthan
    @yyEthan 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Unless it is based on a finished book, don't continue for more. Otherwise it will be a trash show like all other American shows out of greedy

    • @S555.13
      @S555.13 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We are far from DARK with this show, it may end like LOST, the end is not clearly already written.
      Even the last episode was too much

  • @maricruzgarcia8337
    @maricruzgarcia8337 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the analysis, I had missed the detail of Jo´s pupil not contracting with the light. For me, it has been a very disappointing finale leaving many questions answered. The series remain me of shows like Lost, From or Raised by Wolves, that keep raising new riddles and questions but leave plots unsolved. There are several details that have been left uncommented:
    1) the "retired police officer" to whom Bud Caldera brings flowers; my guess is that this man is Bud´s love in his own past while, in Blue-car-universe Henry Caldera is predominantly heterosexual.
    2) t is not also clear why Jo from Red-car-universe can play the piano if she still does not have the consciousness of Blue-car-universe Jo.
    3) Why do the two Alice can send messages to each other (and understand those messages) through the FisherPrice recorder if the CAL has been destroyed?
    It seems that the Jo left in the International Space Station epitomises herself Schrödinger´s paradox as she is dead and alive at the same time? The final scene somehow infers that Dead-and-Alive Jo is the one who helped Paul and Red-Car-universe Jo to go back to Earth

    • @thenextseason
      @thenextseason  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The retired police officer was the conspiracy theorist Bud threw off the ship in the other universe. I don't think there's anything more than that

  • @diabeticaaron3463
    @diabeticaaron3463 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The two fetuses. One is in each universe. Twins are born a few minutes apart. One is born in one universe then later one is born in the other. The second will be born without a mother. It’s a play on immaculate conception. The father will receive the baby. Maybe the embryo is in the kissed school teacher.

  • @rajeshranjan3199
    @rajeshranjan3199 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hope it never get season 2.

  • @Christopher-rx3el
    @Christopher-rx3el 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The intro of this video was pointless if you've even tried to watch the show.

    • @thenextseason
      @thenextseason  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      You'd be surprised how many people didn't pick up on what was really going on. I think some needed to hear it as a confirmation even if you, personally, didn't.

    • @kristineclevenger6705
      @kristineclevenger6705 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I miss details often, so some repetition helps. Plus there’s lots to process. My daughter retains information far better than I do, & you must have good retention also. Lucky you!