There comes a point where we need to stop blaming colonization. We give them too much power. It’s ashame we don’t love ourselves. It’s becoming pitiful and unattractive.
@@MargaretNdlovu-q5wprior to colonization there was evidence that people still liked folks of lighter skin tone, I’m talking about the BC era of African empires
No one cares about our skin color darker or lighter. Its not even what makes Eritreans look Eritrean. Majority of our features just have a Habesha look. You just know when you see it "Ah this person is a Habesha!". We just know honestly 95% of the time. Same applies to Cushites who look similar enough to get confused. If you are Nara or Kunama. Then most would know of these tribes as well. They are also distinct.
Blessings to you hawey. I had one grandmother was was literally the darkest woman I have known with Habesha features (literally the colour of many Sudanese and South Sudanese) despite being aboriginal Tigrigna blooded. My grandfather looked like a Yemeni Arab despite also being Habesha and loved her for her colour (and body/height). My other grandmother's mom was blond w White skin n coloured eyes...also Native to Eritrea not recently mixed within 7 or 8 gen from her, 6 gens of my maternal line is from Asmara and beyond is from the surroundings. We are proud of all shades n colours in my community and family...I have no idea what these people in the video are trying to do forcing a narrative which is not mainstream in our community to be the majority. The title is misleading.
@@Chatelaine0 When I get really tanned I can basically get really dark,. I think people forget that we have a nilotic base to our dna and sometimes it expresses itself more or less over your lifetime. My siblings are pretty light themselves and I'm brown sometimes I get darker. My brothers got a little bit darker as they got older not by tanning but just naturally, while I got a lighter over time naturally. It can be so random sometimes gene expression; photos of me as a kid vs teenager vs now as an adult have different skin tones. It's obvious people are trying to push a narrative as a way to place us beside White people or something. Most people don't really care about color or hair type as long as you at least have "Habesha facial features" which 99% of us have so you will be okay. Granted obviously loose hair and light skin is preferred as better due to eurocentric beauty standard but people exaggerate how you will be treated. If you are cushites people can tell since we don't look too different and if you are Nara, Rashiada & Kunama most people can tell. Thanks Hawey blessings to you as well. I was born in Asmara, my parents also met there. My grandmother had straight hair/light skin and my grandfather was dark brown very tall like 6ft+.
So let me understand this , she is Eritrean, but lived in Saudi Arabia most of her life , but I find it interesting 🤔 that she speaks broadly on a country she has spent not so much of her life in , I'd like to hear from someone born and raised and their perspective living in Ghana now..
I agree with you born n raised in Saudi 🇸🇦 so she can't say that much as an eritrean born n raised there I can only disagree for whatever she's saying.
Is she a saudi citizen?..or Eritean citizen?..most Eriteans in Europe and middle east dont consider themselves as africans!..they associate themselves with Arabs..they is nothing wrong with being africans..lets appreciate ourselves..
@@fatmahnoor3717who told you that? Isn’t Eritrea literally located in Africa.Are you Eritrean yourself? I have never heard or met Eritrean who don’t think they are African.
@ am sorry i dont want to be an Eritrean!..am happy and proud to be A KENYAN!..nodody told me anything!..i did Geography in SCHOOL!..i have map of Africa!.. Eritrea is Not in East Africa!..i did not say Eritea is NOT in Africa!..Go back to school and learn English!..clearly you dont understand Eglish…i met Eriteans in Dubai and UK!..they told me they are Arabs from Africa!..😂😂😂 met several Eriteans outside Africa!…who told me they ARE NOT AFRICANS!..Eriteans and Ethiopians call kenyans Africans!..because they believe they are Not Africans!..lets be honest here!..
Up the Irish! it's just programming. I grew up in the west, they feed it to you from day one from all angles. I get it why some get lost in the 'sauce' as the kids say.
Even to our hair, whether people except their Black hair. Our hair is versatile. We can do anything with our hair. Given to us by God himself. Be proud of your hair also.
Very interesting, informative, and cordial discussion!!! Let's have more of this kind of discussions. All three of you raise important issues gently. I am impressed.
The title is heavily misleading and wrong. It was applying a foreign problem as a blanket statement and forcing it on Eritreans. I think this is racist towards Eritreans!!! Just because we are lighter skinned than most Subsaharan and Saharan Africans...it doesn't mean we hate our colour the way they do!
The problem with Eritrean women is that a lot of them bleach their skin but people expect them to be light so no one questions their skin tone. Also you can't say the majority of Eritreans are light skin just look at Eritrean men. 80 percent if not more of Eritrean men have very dark skin. So when you say the majority are light are we talking about just the women? I am Eritrean and I have never seen a light skin Eritrean man and I know a lot of dark skin Eritrean women. She doesn't represent the majority of Eritreans. Eritreans comes in different shades. And why are women lighter than men ? I already answered the question. women tend to bleach their skin especially the very light one that's why every Eritrean man you will meet is very dark skin but the women aren't.
@@SaraAm91 skin whitening cream is used all across Africa Asia and the Caribbean’s. I’m not going to single them out. My point still remains. Love yourself fully!
@@SaraAm91 Nigeria is probably the biggest marketplace in the whole of Africa for skin lightening. I'd argue in the horn of africa it's less prevelant thing. The women already know they are beautiful, sure some might participate but it isn't seen as a necessity for beauty since they will find a man anyways. But in other countries it's seen as a necessity and many men might not want them at all if they are too dark.
@SaraAm91 false. Then why is their whole body the same tone. They'd have to bleach their arms, hands and legs on a daily basis which they wouldn't have the time or money. The complexion is smooth and even
I'd like to know as well ? Which issues? That comment is a representation of one of the destructions im referencing ... Destruction of the mind !! To make you believe they did no wrong was the most effective trick in the book.😢
@@msylvini Im sure it did but was it so much about wanting to be lighter? want thinner or curlier hair? Light colored eyes? Thinner lips? Saying that you don't look good if you're not mixed with Europeans, light colored Arabs or light colored Indians
This woman is completely divorced from reality. Within Eritrean society colorism is not an issue. However skin bleaching is an individual preference and it's more prevalent within Indian society.
Thats not true and if you lived within the community you would know. Being light skinned as measure of beauty is a common theory and is even present in many traditional songs. People make comments llike Tselam Gual isnt beautiful. Even in children so I think it is good to stay in touch in your community. I have also exprienced it myself.
Bro you must be a light skin Eritrean. I am a dark skinned Eritrean who has been called Tselim and Teqar. Colourism is problem. I am a man and it’s worse for women.
@@sesenmehari5404You must be Ethiopian...We have lots of Tigrigna songs praising dark skin and women who are indigenous...In the words of the late Yemane Baria..Tefetewi Hibri Afreqawi Qorbet (The most beloved colour is the African Colour)...which came in all shades but was particularly referencing Gual Hageru with the dark skin. I don't speak other Eri languages besides Tigrigna and Arabic some Italian so I can't comment about other tribes. I have family members including myself sometimes when its wintery who get called Sibhi or Hasema for being too light.. this is beyond qayih light and by the comparison to undesired foods I don't believe its a compliment so it goes both ways....Yet still its not no where to the level of calling it colorism or racism like u see it in other African countries or Asian countries. Our TV actors dont even wear makeup most of the time and in my opinion look darker then the average I see in my community. I have a grandmother who was dark as night and another great grandmother who was darn near blond n blue...Both my parents and all my grandparents are Muslim and Eritrean and have at least 500 years history in Eritrean soil. I have siblings who took upon my very dark grandmother and the rest are medium to light...I never heard of anyone saying anything ignorant to either range of colour. We had more of a problem w certain eye colours bec family members were called cat eyes for having coloured eyes and it was something that came up as our popular comebacks during arguments which shows that the standard for beauty esp among Habesha is to be Brown skinned w Brown Eyes...not lighter is better like colorism suggests. I actually blv we as a nation are proud of our diverse skin colours and the proof is..often darker skinned women are married with children but u see a lot of lighter skinned women (myself and many I know) not or marrying later past 30s and 40s often having few or no children.
I'm so tired of how we treat each other, both men and women. Every race talk about how we look, but yet they'll be baking in the sun trying to look like us. Even having surgery, adding butts, and as Black females we do it too. Everyone aren't given curves even if you're Black. Be who you are
It's called playing exotic. White girls sometimes want to look exotic to have a higher demand in the dating market, because exotic women are universal, they attract all races of men. But there is also a key factor in exoticism, these are Eurocentric facial features, this is the foundation. If you have exactly these features, then the skin tone, even if it is dark, will have an insignificant factor. Therefore, white women can easily play exotic - sunbathe, make their lips a little bigger, or something else.
No do not blame the men. Women are smart enough not to use products that could be cancerous. This Eritrean girl comes across as very smart. Just like Juanita. But please to my sisters out there do not change yourself to for what you think men want.
@@DPpl-nu6kmculture has historically came from your mother just like in Black America if I see my mother wearing nothing but white women's hair what am I going to be into when I get older
@stacycarlton2056 wrong.. the reason why the mother you mentioned in your example wore the white woman's hair is because the MEN dictated subconsciously or blatantly that they preferred females w that type of hair... So it made her feel desired n attractive and of higher value. Men set the standard...women r just the marionette puppies.
@@heruy8274 bro plenty of Eritrea are in Russia does it mean that's where the Eritrean diaspora is what's wrong with you guys, even the other Eritrean comments politeness and thanks while you are being misrepresented and insulted as thieves and prostitutes
The problem with Eritrean women is that a lot of them bleach their skin but people expect them to be light so no one questions their skin tone. Also you can't say the majority of Eritreans are light skin just look at Eritrean men. 80 percent if not more of Eritrean men have very dark skin. So when you say the majority are light are we talking about just the women? I am Eritrean and I have never seen a light skin Eritrean man and I know a lot of dark skin Eritrean women. She doesn't represent the majority of Eritreans. Eritreans comes in different shades. And why are women lighter than men ? I already answered the question. women tend to bleach their skin especially the very light one that's why every Eritrean man you will meet is very dark skin but the women aren't.
As a proud darker-skinned 100% Eritrean, I embrace my heritage and identity wholeheartedly. I believe we need to stop placing all blame on Europeans so called coloniser, especially when so many of us haven’t taken meaningful action beyond spreading hate. History is a complex, and if we are discussing injustices, let’s not overlook the role of Arabs, who enslaved and exploited Africans for centuries, often leaving generational trauma by impregnating by rapping African women and killing African men. So please, all Arabs have an African mother ancestors , if they like it or not but that requires intelligence and openers to want to know the truth. When it comes to light-skinned Eritrean who boast about their heritage, I think it’s fair to ask critical questions: did. their ancestors participate in harming their own people by enabling such atrocities ? 2) did they betray their homeland in pursuit of personal gain? For me, being unapologetically black and embracing our darker skin , represents a deeper pride-a pride in not being complicit in selling out our souls or people. It’s time to focus on unity and accountability rather than divisive narratives. Much love and God blessing you all
I'm an Eritrean who has been living abroad for quite some time now, but I originally come from Eritrea. What @kenganda hosts should realize is that Milca is quite different from the typical Eritrean mindset. There's a significant cultural gap between Eritreans raised abroad and those raised in the country. She's somewhat of an outsider to Eritrean culture due to her upbringing outside the country. While she made some valid points, there were a few mistakes in her representation of Eritreans raised in Eritrea (who make up the majority), especially regarding the Eritrean views on colorism and the Barya translation, among other things... but all in all, she's a bright young lady. Great job!
True most of Eriteans are beatiful..most of them are mixed Race italian and native Eriteans!..remember Eritea was colonized by Italians!..even djiboutiis are mixed raced French and native djiboutis..
This is a global problem, light skin african are treated with favortism and preference. She can say shes annoyed but dont believe she tells people not to treat her so nice
I am a dark-skinned Eritrean Canadian, born and raised in Eritrea. Eritrea is a multi-ethnic, multi-cultural, and multi-religious society, and we all come in different shades of skin color. Light skin is not the majority, despite what you might see on social media. Eritrea has its issues, but prejudice and discrimination based on skin color is not one of them. “However, this is true for some Eritrean immigrants or those born and raised overseas, due to exposure to Western standards of beauty.
This is the case With Eritrean Women outside of Eritrea, always frame our society based on Fabricated lie I grew up in Eritrea have never heard what she is talking about🤔 Yes there is preference as they are choosen Foreign men over their own men but Nobody is targeting them yet I think it is better for us to fight against these lies too even if they are Etitrean
@@fortunapuscale8676Tell me how. Have u seen our actors and musicians...most of them are much darker than the average Eritrean!!! Colorism they are talking about is being preferred in treatment and being worshipped for looking Whiter... like what u see in India and other African countries. In Eri communities Light skinned and Dark skinned are criticized the same. I've never seen a darker Eritrean being denied Salam bec their colour is offensive or being beat up or denied work for being from a different tribe known for their much darker colour!!!
@alamg39 this girl isn't speaking the truth, seriously; Eritreans do not have colorism issue there may be a few people, but ive never seen it or heard it; also the Italians were made fun of (half caste were made fun of)
Why not have the podcast last for 1 hour or more?? The podcast is short and getting shorter but the guests are amazing. It’s always ends abruptly which is so unfortunate. It should feel like a conversation but it feels like a chore. Great work though! Great guests! Just continue the conversation longer please.
It's worst problem in West Africa if you look by metrics. It's just most attention focused on East Africa. Because we have the wrong African features because of cushitic ancestry. Most people don't like that generally in our continent. If you aren't Bantu/West African = invader. Mentality.
Born and grown in foreign country, very unrealistic to represent Eritrea and its values. Of course, she is eritrean by blood, but remember guys values are imitated from where you grew and studied. Above all, she came from Saudi Arabia where racism is atop. Go to Eritrea and see the social cohesions despite diversities both ethnically and religious wise. Segregation is not only forbidden but also culturally unacceptable. It cannot be different when you're in Uganda or elsewhere. So, don't conclude based on her views as she knows little about the Eritrean values which are self-respect, and respecting others regardless their status in society. Eritreans keep low profile as a matter of respect for others. What she is talking about men and women is not unique to Eritrean man or woman. Just talking what is generally perceived by all nations and faiths. In Europe, normally they ask you about your nationality wherever you go. I use to say black African but for an European it was very difficult to accept my black identity. Can anyone tell me where blackness starts? No one! Can you tell me what blackness is in Uganda and the Gambia at the same time? Peace!
When I visited southern Morocco as tourist, I was impressed to find the Berbers quite proud of their melanin over the Arabs. So much so that they were vigorously promoting their language in competition with Arabic ,French and Spanish. Their present ruler, King Mohammed, is a hero to them because he gives support to this cause.
Great discussion! Ethiopians and Eritreans appear to both have been influenced by colonialists - Italians, Arabs, etc. Juanita is a beautiful woman, great facial symmetry and great smile! Just because a woman is light complexioned doesn't automatically make her a beautiful woman! I used to put Ethiopians and Eritreans on a pedestal but now have sincere love for myself and now more wise and would never put such women on a pedestal again! Thing is, many East African women prefer a White man before they would even talk and date a Black American man!
They are not mixed though with Arab or Italian blood that’s their phenotype: from Burundi 🇧🇮, Rwanda, Somali, Ethiopian 🇪🇹, Djibouti 🇩🇯, etc have similar features from dark skinned to light skinned. Same in west Africa: Mali, Mauritania 🇲🇷, Niger🇳🇪 , 🇹🇩 chad etc have l darker to lighter skinned black people with softer hair textures and softer face features
What the hell are you talking about about Ethiopian and eritrean women are very beautiful. And not every Ethiopian woman is light skin alot of dark skinned women are there too. I have been going to the Ethiopian village in Los Angeles for along time. And the beauty of it is they both love dancing in black American clubs they love seating down.
First of all Ethiopia 🇪🇹 is never colonized so where do you get that Ethiopia is influenced of colonization? Secondly even you do not see Italian influence on Eritrea because you can’t get Italian language speaking in Eritrea if you go today their culture religion their food everything exactly similar with Ethiopians so there is no such influence
This is why we should find our validation strength in Jesus Christ. Then nothing else matters. The best relationship any human can have in growth and wellness is simply just getting to know their Creator. He sent His Son so we can just simply know Him. Talk to Him anytime, even in doubt, He is there and He has got your back even when we aren't looking. Put that First, and everything flows. I wish everyone peace, good positive things, growth, life, love, faith, and hope. God Bless you all 💕💕 Hebrews 11:6
It is nice discussion, but the skin color doesn't matter. It is unity that makes a difference. Ethiopians defeat colonization by standing in unity. Africans need to have a mutual understanding and support each other. We are ONE after all.
The day Africans will be truly free is when we embrace our God-given identity. When we see our skin color and hair texture among other features as beautiful, we boost our confidence and self-esteem, and no one can tell us we are not good enough. If you're reading this and you are struggling to embrace your Africaness, I pray you find the strength within you to embrace your beauty. Only then can you really achieve peace of mind. Competing with shifting standards of beauty will leave you empty. What will you do when the standard of beauty is dark skin and coily hair? I don't think there's anti-bleach cream😅. Right now, many people go to tan their skin to appear darker and get butt lifts or lip fillers. The world is changing and only those who are content with the way God made them will be truly happy.
color is always an issue let no one lie to you.. but if you have your sh*t together, you can more than compensate. it really doesn't matter how dark your skin is.. what matters is the quality of life you live, not how fair your skin is - there are people who are light, literally white, yet they live miserable lives. some are pitch black and they are happy, healthy, wealthy and giddy all day, every day And men have absolutely no excuse when it comes to dating.. i have seen Ethiopian and Eritrean women, very light, with less than average very dark guys in Kenya.. very many of them; women think differently, your color doesn't matter that much if you have your sh*t together
Revelations:The Great Serpent that Olde Dragon also known as Satan deceived the WHOLE WORLD of Dark mankind. Islam as taught by the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad and Minister Louis Farrakhan comes after all else fails. Peace.
I am an Eritrean descent from North America, my Mamma TOLD me when I was a baby that there's NO such thing as racism BUT race cards. My Mamma didn't give 2 F***S about colour, AND she WAS married to a millionaire!😂
It is on you Ugandans in Uganda, not Eritreans. There should not be any colorism neither racism nor religious bigotry. It is your responsibilities to do check and balance. If the Orthodox church members don't want you to come in, tomorrow the clergies will try to impose some dictatorial rules and oppress the whole people in your own country. Just beware and defend the freedom of worship that you may have in Uganda today, protect your human dignities for all Ugandans. Remember that Eritreans in Eritrea is not responsible for anything that happens in Uganda. Peace be among common people of all Uganda and those who migrate there.
@kengada do you mind next time bring Eritreans who can give as good information of the eritrea 🇪🇷 society's dont just bring anyone who has no deepth of their country's culture and knowledge .
She was being diplomatic to speak about the Eritrean situation in uganda not to hurt ugandan feelings while all this misinformation is attacking her people, but she doesn't mind bringing the most unrepresentative topics and wrong info about Eritreans adding to the misinformation thats putting them in danger, maybe her life is different from the rest of Eritreans but it doesn't give her the right to deny it while she's seeing a report calling her people prostitute workers and theives out of control
I'm honestly intrigued as to what kind of experiences this "Eritrean guest" has had in her life or what kind of stories she has heard to be blowing things out of proportion the way she is on this show. Eritreans barely have any issue with "colorism". The term "barya" is also used as a term of endearment. I recommend the music of our pop legend Yemane Ghebremichael.
Under what circumstances do u call someone barya for endearment when it translates to slave ? It’s been used so causally that for most Eritreans it seems like their brains can’t even register what it actually means it’s delusional to even deny the actually meaning of the word because it’s become so normal when u see some one dark and want to call them barya ask what it means to any Eritrean ? Eritreans have a colorism problem lighter is always perceived better inside ur homes there is pictures of white jesus and virgin Mary that is held in the highest esteem but the devil is painted as black or darker …why ? Because That is what the standard has been set up on and if you can’t believe or if you all can’t see it it’s because you are all trapped in that delusional setup
It definitely is.. that is not honest. As an Eritrea myself , I have witnessed ppl speaking negatively about ppl that are darker or the comments about you have “good” hair unlike others with non European hair. Eritreans and African really need to have an honest conversation.
Stop the lies😂 colorism is in every community unfortunately, so why act like your community is perfect. The light Eritreans are at the top of the social hierachy while dark skin is looked down just like how it is all over the world, so stop lying!
@@totodada4441Thats just personal and traditional preference and many Eritreans have light skin so its not a problem. Eritrea's problems is lack of rule of law, democratic government, citizen rights etc.
@@lightintheworld5690 I don't agree as a dark skin Eritrean born and raised in Eritrea I never experienced or witnessed discrimination because of my skin color however do people speak about color yes just like we speak about someone being too short too fat or too skinny I am married to a very light skinned man on the other hand one of my sister-in-law who is very light skinned long straight hair but very short everyone in the family calls her duka and they call me scura (Etalian dark)😀 it doesn't bother us at all so being dark skin in Eritrea is not an issue
Generations of Habasa people have been lost and disconnected from their own ethnicity and culture due to Shabia culture of immigration. Look at it from the big picture.
If there are a few things I've noticed about the average woman from the Horn of Africa, it's the prominent forehead, oblong face, relatively lighter skin, and wooly or loosely-curled hair. And this lady fits that description. Similar to Wongel Zelalem.
@@Abel-u8x yeah we are different groups. Even our paternal haplogroups are different from Nilotes. But its obvious we share a connection in some way or another. Some Horn Africans get the A haplogroup sometimes. Nilotes is A and Horners is E1b1b. E & E1B1B originated in the Horn of Africa originally most believe.
It's not because of colour, it's because of beauty, any beautiful woman in Uganda will receive special treatment plus rich and well dressed men, i receive special treatment because of my dressing style
The association of black skin and "negro" physiognomy with slavery predate European colonialism. Not saying its morally right but understand that Eritreans and people from that general region are not your kinsmen. So dont project your pathology unto others.
@@heruy8274bro the lady was completely wrong and misrepresented Eritreans, to present it as if its a cultural norm of how Eritreans interact with people is sad with the type of culture of respect there is , upon that she didn't bring the historical background and what it actually refers to instead painted it with foreign racist hate narrative
the word she used as a nickname is used for Eritreans themselves among each other even in the same family and not in a hate discriminatory intention , the real history is that the Feudal Lords during raids used to have war captives who get enslaved from farther tribes that happen to have darker shade that's the reference the most respected Eritrean singer Yemane has that nickname nothing to do with superiority inferiority,Eritreans refer to themselves and every other African as Black earthy or Brown and Red for the guests colour, white is specifically used only for Europeans , she misrepresented even if unintentionally it has its own background and reality that doesn't need to be forced to western arab Asian other African countries background
the word slave is another word (gila)which is never used in colour context, the nickname is a reference directly to the captives in particular and their distinguishing feature was a darker shade , again I'm commenting on the use of the nickname and not Eritrean culture because that is the least and not representative of what actually consumes Eritrean culture and their interactions with people
The worst representation of the lived experience of color dynamics in Eritrea. Whatever she is talking about is based on what she thinks might be the case. The preference for looking lighter exists, but it is not for looking like a white person, which most contemporary Eritreans haven’t seen in person. Instead, it is more of a status thing. People from underprivileged backgrounds have to work outdoors, exposed to the sun, wind...etc; life is hard, and this can be seen in their skin due to lack of time and resources for self-care. The opposite is the case for women from well-off family backgrounds. You can see a stark difference in the skin tone of members of the same family who live in Eritrea and those who are in Europe. As for the nickname word for a very dark-skinned person, it indeed exists; it is the name they used to call a slave in the old days. However, the thing she said that the people used to own slaves was wrong. Owning a slave, at that time, was the habit of the feudal of the Amhara. Being Christians, they were not able to enslave fellow citizens; as a result, they used to get people from the non-Christian population of the now central and south Ethiopia. And those people happened to be dark-skinned people, and their name was used to refer to slaves. By the way, for thousands of years, the light-skinned Christian Eritreans were being enslaved by the Arab Muslims because they could not enslave fellow Muslims Arabs even if they were poor. Finally, I want to point out that there is also a nickname that the Eritreans use, in an insulting way, for people who are an extremely light-skinned person. So, it is very wrong to assume there is a firmly held objective preference for a light-skinned person in the people living in Eritrea.
Though she tried to give you some idea about us, Eritreans and our culture. She has no idea about the culture, how strict and tyrant the government is, and how conservative the culture is. You better bring someone who was born and raised in eritrea, so that you can have the real idea of Eritrea.
@@Huhn-Bruh She looks like few african americans but not most just like there are a few west african and southern african that looks like her but not most.The average african american looks like the groups they come from in africa most come from west africa.
Black Africans have the most diverse look on earth from phenotype to skin tone and size.Real life and not real life talk below. Note- In real life some black or african americans just like white americans do not have any other race admixture. Well most black americans may have european dna but it still not significant enough.For it to be significant and impact phenotype it needs to be 25% or up and that is not always the case for some. Having 1% asian or native american dna is really small and not significant as well and does not impact phenotype as well. Most white americans have other race admixture as well but tends to be smaller on average then the average black american real life race admixture but they have race admixture and for most of them too it's insignificant. African americans look like the ethnic groups they come from in africa anyway. Africans vary from all types of looks. In africa you could see africans(depending on the ethnic group and individuals) that look more like african americans.I should say african americans look more like the africans they come from. Okay the above is real life by the way but when comes to american sci-fi/fantasy superhero comics it's a different story/different universes,laws,history etc.. and most african americans and white americans for example do not have any other race admixture at all. In comicbook superhero stories,shows,movies etc.. most white and black americans do not have any other race admixture and when a few do it's simplified. So the person is either 100% black or white,50% or 75% etc.. By way most latino/hispanic americans in comics are not white and are not classified as white,while in real life most are classified as white. Note-in superhero sci-fi- fantasy comics most african americans are unmixed blacks, racism is less then in the real world and alot more blacks live in north africa then they do in the real world but those are different universes,with alot of different history,more advance technological achievements etc.. Of course writers jobs is to focus on superhero stories and not bring in to much real world stories,politics,dna stuff etc.. in comics.Besides the comic industry and many of the characters were created before most folks knew anything about dna etc..,so writers in the past and today still keep simple as possible when it comes to background, history etc.. By the way i saw some statistics saying that most black american before 1890’s were unmixed. The black population that had some form admixture out grew that black american population that were unmixed,and it happen over time in 1800’s and more so the 1900’s.There could be varied reasons for that but in terms of raw numbers for example the unmixed black population was almost close in size to the black population in the 1930’s for example but that gap got wider faster i think in 1950’s or 60’s i think.
I liked this program because she was sincere with most of her information. However, she was very easy on her Eriterean and Ethiopian men. She seems to have found it easier, to blame the Eriterean/Ethiopian women for internalized White racism towards Dark Skinned Black people!! Could it be because she is afraid of the repercussions from the Eriterean/Ethiopian men?!! I am a selfrespecting Indigenious Ugandan man who lives in the USA. I have lived and traveled through a number of African countries including Ethiopia. That is why I find it difficult as to why she didn't say that the Eriterean/Ethiopian men are responsible for the racism towards Dark skinned Black people. Yet Kenganda was able to say that Ugandan men have internalized White racism and prefer lightskinned women!! In Ethiopia, Ethiopian and Eriterean men call Black men slaves (Bariya) and don't like it when their women date what they call Black (Bariya) slave men!! I was even attacked on the street for walking with an Ethiopian/Eriterean woman in 1974 Addis Ababa!! Hence I will say it from my own lived experience, that it is the Eriterean/Ethiopian men who practice racism against Darkskinned Black people. The women are usually acting according to what their men have influenced them to think and even force them to think!! The women are insulted and can even be physically attacked for dating another Black African or none Nilo/Cushitic Hamite looking men. In Ethiopia, Eriterea and Somali Bantu Negros, and Nilotic/ South Sudanese looking native Ethiopians, are all called Bariyas and discriminated against!! They didn't allow them education. In fact when I was in Addis Ababa, I was always asked if I was from Gambela. You hardly could see the Native Black Ethiopians in schools or jobs!! All you saw were the lightskinned Ethiopians who call themselves Abeshas from the name Abysinia/Abysinians which meant Mixed race. Ethiopia was a name which refered to Central, East and parts of Southern Africa but generally it was a name used by the Greeks, to describe all Black people. The name Ethiopia was appropriated by the Abysinians after they joined the Greco Roman armies to defeat the Black African armies, and the Abysinian King Ezana turned Abysinia into a Greek Orthodox Christian country in 325 AD!! To prove this point, the ocean right next to Congo, Angola and West Africa was called the Ethiopic Ocean which was intentionally changed to the Atlantic Ocean!!
Interesting insight! Have heard and read about the Ethiopian and Eritrean men who call darker skinned Black men "Bantu" and "slave" while also not being amenable to their women dating African American men or other non-Ethiopan/non-Eritrean men. But, here is the thing, I have no fear whatsoever and if I wanted to data an Ethiopian/Eritrean woman then I would. But, I would not put a Ethiopian/Eritrean woman on a pedestal or a non-Black woman over a Black woman who is from another part of Africa! As previously stated, I have seen many Ethiopian/Eritrean women idolizing White men and some would blatantly do so. There appeared to be a degree of intentionality on the Ethiopian/Eritrean women's part to breed out and have mulatto children. In fact, many of the light complexioned women in many parts of America and the Caribbean have the same mindset!
Well as an eritrean born and raised In eritrea shocked to read some of people's opinions and what they call knowledge. And I'm wondering Milka is a diaspora born and raised woman from all the eritreans in kampala you think she's the only person to represent or discuss issues of Eritreans ? As for me I can never buy what ever she says cos she has never ever been born and raised with in my own society so I can say she's not anyone who can tell anything about my own people.I wonder why they only bring those Saudi grown eritreans what is it they really knw about us as society and as a country.its like you bring a ugandan citizen who grow up in usa to tell you about life and ugandan culture. Anyways you all chill .❤ all ugandan people.
Do you speak any Habesha languages? No you don't, so how do you know Habesha means "mixed race". Stop lying it does not mean mixed race. Ethiopia is the greek word found in the bible meaning cushite. Bantus are not Cushite so therefore they aint Ethiopians. White people think every black african is ham/cush and might out of ignorance labeled you as such but we all know Biblical hamites does not have relate to negroids
The fact that she was born and raised outside of Eritrea showed a little bit of exaggeration bc she never lived and felt Eritrea from inside. If she also was born in conservative and racist countries like Saudi it's normal that she can have that. I suggest you also chat with a woman who was born and raised in Eritrea(until maturity) then you can balance between the two.
In Somali culture, beauty is intricately tied to features that convey strength, elegance, and character rather than solely focusing on skin tone. The ideal of beauty centers on the grace and symmetry of facial structure, emphasizing qualities such as a well-proportioned face, distinctive bone structure, a slender, elegant neck, and a refined nose. These attributes are cherished as markers of both physical beauty and a person's presence and poise. The Somali perspective on beauty values inner character alongside outward appearance. Qualities like integrity, good faith, and kindness are seen as enhancing a person’s allure, creating a balanced ideal where personality and physical presence are harmonized. This philosophy reflects a deep-seated cultural understanding that beauty is a blend of physical form and inner virtue, with no emphasis on skin color or complexion. In this view, the Somali people celebrate diversity within their communities, valuing each person’s unique attributes and rejecting the idea that beauty should be limited to certain shades or hues.
All I can say to you is that take this complaint seriously! Ugandans are tolerant people but they can be vicious when provoked. So just work on your problem of civilisation
As I am listening. I feel people aren't being honest in these conversations. True, you can think you are beautiful all day, but if you are a heterosexual woman and you are not getting approached by men or your beauty validated, it will take a toll on you. So it is the men. We don't live in a bubble, a heterosexual woman wants to be desired by a man, so i don't fault women for conforming or acquesing to what men prefer. Women want attention typically from men. It's natural, so the men need to be accountable for why women feel like lighter and being mixed looking is better. The Eritrean woman told the truth, but the other lady corrected her to appease the male audience.
Well, unfortunately, we live in a patriarchal society that centres everything around the male gaze. As women we need to move away from that, because we do not need a man's validation, we need to understand that beauty is greater than how you look but also the kind of person you are, otherwise you end up with a bunch of shallow people. Yes it is nice to be told you are beautiful, but beauty is much deeper than that. A man's preference is also determined by the society he is raised in because men in my community prefer their own women who are darker and richly melanated over a white or lighter woman. With that being said, most people like symmetrical faces, so it's not always about complexion and I have been amongst communities where colourism is rampant, yet they have complimented my features, my height and my complexion too. Some people can look past skin complexion and actually see features too. For us South Sudanese, we actually acknowledge richly melanated skin is part of our beauty.
I can said that she doesn’t know that much about Eritrean history or culture. I don’t know in what kind of family she grows up, it’s absolutely there is no colorism issue as she explains.
@DearBill we all know Saudi Arabia has long history of islamic colonialism and slavery but that dosen't deny that Eritreans have superior complex and racism towards their darker skin west and central Africans
I'm Eritrean I've all kinds of eritrean friends and family we all have differ colors light brown dark,chocolate very dark too even in my own family but we don't see color unfortunately this woman can never represent or talk the reality of my people ger knowledge is very limited cos she's a diaspora raised eritrean citizen .
Infact majority of my my people we are dark skinned incase you don't know and marriage preference in her house hold where she grew up in Saudi might have been by color sorry you all color is nothing what you should see is personality is she a wife material ...cos looks can never take you far.
@@TingTong2568 Just because we don't consider ourselves the same as you and don't want to be mixed out until we are unrecognisable as people isn't having a superiority complex. It's called trying to preserve our identity. We feel the same way about arabs generally as well. If you went into our communities you can hear people arguing we should kick them out of our countries before. They have a very negative rep in my country for an example, your lucky your people don't get half of the hate. Arab-African coastal relations right now are at their very worst, especially with what UAE is doing to our countries. We aren't exactly fond of either is my point. Our preference is usually our ethnic group, if not then at least someone from the country and if not at least from a neighboring horn african country.
The African need to know about the east African community specifically Ethiopia 🇪🇹 somalia and Eritrea 🇪🇷 even in their own family they look 👀 different too light skin , brown and dark skin too but others African most part they look unlike interms of skin colors
Not the dark knuckles!🤣 It's not the men it's "the Man", the man that taught the men. Prior to colonization and indoctrination were the men checking for lighter skinned women? Tastes can be influenced. The Modesto Brocos painting. Great reference.
Given the fact that this youg lady was born and raised outside Eritrea I do not want to judge her, but the truth is Eritrea's war for independence from Ethiopia for example was largely driven and motivated by the fact that unlike Ethiopians, they were colonized hence they fought to preserve their colonial past and legacy...their most sober argument to want to separate from Ethiopians has always been "colonial borders had to be respected".....To be brutally honest they felt more advanced than Ethiopians because they unlike Ethiopians lived under the more apartheid like but "advanced" Italians, despite the fact that they (Eritreans) actually speak the same language with people of northern Ethiopia and culturally no difference whatsoever in their cultural practice or values.....having said that I agree with here that there are social prejudice within both Eritrea and Ethiopia proper, but then so in Kenya, or even the relatively homogenous Somalia...again the honest truth about colorism is it is an African wide if not worldwide issue that needs to be addressed as such rather than sugarcoating and blaming it on long gone colonialists ..the root cause may be colonialism but our own self hate and desire to be what we are not is serious to the point it become political identity and a cause for destabilization of Africa !!!!!
my fellow habesha, this is not true. Eritreans didn't fight to preserve colonial borders. They fought to leave an oppressive empire. For 100s if not 1000s of years, Ethiopians always venture north to force Eritreans to pay tribute in grains or gold. As recently as the late 1800s, Ras Alula Abanega's invasion resulted in the genocide of 50-60% of the Nara population of Eritrea. This has been the history of both countries. Why would anyone fight 30 years to preserve "colonial boundaries" if being reunited with Ethiopia was such a great thing? The logical answer is obvious. Ethiopia was an empire of oppressed groups. Power traded between the Amhara and Tigray. With the rest of the population being trodden under. Even under the currently oppressive Eritrean govt, no one dreams of re-uniting with Ethiopia.
@TH-qk6ez You got it right, but there's no skin bleaching in Ethiopia, I have never heard of it. Ethiopia, there is not that much colorism. Eritrean hates to be confused with Ethiopianes, and they get very angry 😠 😡 if someone thinks 🤔 they look like Ethiopians 😀 😃but there's no difference between Ethiopia and Eritrean. We look the same. We eat the same food, the same culture.
The Eritrean Ethiopian war is mostly a geopolitical war.. first of all amhara exceptionalism made them mistreat and try to humiliate and subjugate tigrinya... The Arab and some European countries felt threatened by Ethiopia in what they considered their sphere of influence in the red Sea,mandeb straits and horn of Africa. Ethiopia itself was a brutal empire that enslaved indigenous Africans and expansionary in nature. Ethiopias future aggression had to be contained by blocking its access to the red Sea and dividing its borders. I know UK, USA, U@E want Ethiopia to annex Somalia and that's why Egypt and turkey are trying to prevent this
First are you an eritrean ? I have mo idea and you think eritreans felt more advanced than ethiopians hmmmmm I wonder .And you are talking about getting our independence please back of from our legacy and history .we have never been part of ethiopia and we will never ever be. It's like you are telling me kiswahili is shared by east africans even tribe wise they do so they have to be one country .Incase you didn't know there was no fixed borders before colonization in africa but ther also was invisible borders let's say cos we were ruled by kings and queens .By the way cos this girl grown up in Saudi I do judge her for the lack of knowledge as for me if I ve no idea about any society I can never speak saying may be its like that I think it's like dat no way you have to come with some fact knowledge cos you are introducing a society to other people you have to takecare not to mislead people.
I think colourism is everywhere, but people were already a different structure created spefically the Gods way. Lineage is more important than colour as far as my people's concerns.❤😅
Kenganda, I am afraid you are interviewing this deaspora kids. Who has no idea about Eritrean mind set, I ask you to do your research or interview some mature Eritreans , example google Abraha deboch & Zeray Deres
yeah she doesnt know what she's talking about! ive seen dark and light skin together ; I dont get where she's getting this from?? it sounds anecdotal to her own experiences or family but I have never heard this in Eritrean or Ethiopian communities; habesha people are proud of who they are and their appearance.
.. And also dont just assume that because a woman or man is light skinned that she or he is a good person.. people are people, dark or light some are bad, some are good judge people's character and how they treat others, not how they look
Eritrea consist of 9 different ethnic groups with different languages facial features like nose hair type body mass skin color differs some are black , dark , light brown ,brown, , Truly speaking when I first see Milka my assumption was that she's Kikuyu or mukamba and not Eritrea , The word milka used (barya) is an Amharic word and it's meaning is (slave) during that time all slaves have a black skin color. So even today people use that word (barya) to dark skin colored people , I think we Africans do lack a self conference and that's the reason why we look up to white people as the limit of everything, I think we should appreciate how we got created , I'm an Ethiopian traveled in east Africa so I've seen beautiful Kenyan ,Ugandan, sudanise congolise Rwandise Tanzanian, I think African if travelled all over they can find beautiful people, I was thinking Ethiopians are the most beautiful sadly not that what I learnt when travel out of Ethiopia.
****I was hoping you guys will touch on the Black woman and Arab man conjugation that created the Eritrians, Somalis and Ethiopians, similar to Dominican republic where they all have atleast 42% African dna.
Bredda. This is partly an assumption and depends what exact ethnic/tribal community you refer to in the Horn (Oromo, Saho, Kunama, Afar etc). Even AncestryDNA treats Ethiopia/Eritrea as a 'point of origin' not a mixture. Maybe some of the Sudanese 'Arab' tibes - yes. But remember the oldest woman (skeleton) found 'Lucy' was in the Horn. I don't think comparisons with Dominicans is right for the different ethnics groups in the Horn/East Africa.
@@ibnzak6145 Lucy is from Kenya. The biracial looking groups have either a Black man or Woman in mix with Arab. The Arabs were the worst slave traders and s*x was one of their weapon.
@@HoodsGlobal in Ethiopia and general the region aswell as in other parts of africa the victims of the Arabs, the whites and others were the darkskinned tribes who were no early followers of a monotheistic religion and they still remained dark, phenotype differ based on youre environment. The lighter ones live in colder climates and on mountains that were inaccessible to colonizers, africa is a continent with diverse indigenous populations. The Dominican Republic is a different case what you are saying about them is true but the mixing of the horn was not common and in the rare cases it happened that the children were rejected unless is was their father who decided to be with a foreign women because in tradition you only follow the fathers lineage. On the contrary, many people in southern Saudi Arabia or Yemen have East African grandfathers as they were inherited from northern Ethiopians and Eritreans at the time of the Kingdom of Axum.
We are Eritrean we have light and black colour we are African if some think we are not African please come tell us in our country don't hate us because our colour what the fuck is instead of working together to make dominant Africa .
Sad to hear that, why is the skin tone relevant to define the worth of a person, especially in Africa ??? That dark chocolate skin tone makes women very appealing....
Strange to hear Oshay say that Somalis are lighter skined than other Africans. We have lived with Somalis in Kenya all our lives and they are no lighter skinned than other Africans. Where did he get this view from?? Maybe he is seeing the skin bleaching and gets confused. Bleaching ones skin is just a manifestation of an inferiority complex. Another thing, the word Mzungu is acually derogatory. In classical kiswahili it comes from the word mizungu which in those days and also today does not connote white.
@@msylvini In classical Kiswahili the word "mzungu" means a phantasm, a mirage, a fib, a lie, a hoax. This must have been the reaction of the locals at the Eastern African coast when they first interacted with the whites who had landed at their coastline. Mzungu is singular and its plural is mizungu. The word simply got a totally different meaning over time.
@jc990jc-e6w If you read what I wrote, I talked about the Somalis I have interacted with throughout my life in Kenya. Africans will always have different shades of skin even among their own communities. And for your information the word "bantu" means people/ human beings. This was a misconception by the white colonisers who could hear different communites in parts of Africa describing themselves or "bantu", "abantu", "andu" etc. These colonisers then wrote history books describing certain groups of people as "bantu". We in Africa have accepted that word, without finding out how it came to be used to describe a whole group of people in Africa.. So, white people, Africans of all shades, Chinese, Indians, etc. are all bantu, abantu, andu etc. Also the number 100 is pronounce the same in the Kipsigis/kalenjin and the Kisomali languages. Also the numbers from five or six to number ten is the same as In the Kipsigis/Kalenjin and the Kisomali languages.The word for river in Gikuyu, is the same as it was in ancient Egypt. The word "asiis" or "asis" meaning goddess is the same in the Kipsigis/Kalenjin language as it was in acient Egypt. The word silanga meaning dam in Kikamba is the same as in the Kipsigis/Kalenjin languages. Sorry for diverting but it is important for Africans to research more about themselves rather than let others do it for them.
@jc990jc-e6w First remember I talked about similarities in languages. I did not talk about any DNA. or genetics. What you call light skin in somalis is just a nuance in African melanin skins. We see it everyday. Most Somalis I see everyday have African melanin skins as every other African. And what makes you think we do not know the history of ancient Egypt? Just because some of us don't blow our trumpets about being experts in anthropology or genetics or any other field, doesn't mean we don't know anything. And who are these people you keep referring to as bantus anyway. Can you describe to us what "bantu" is, because you describe yourself as a black American who knows more than we Africans on the continent. And who are Kikuyans?? Maybe you can enlighten us on the number and names of the different clans of Somalis , Luo, Dinka, Nuer, Kipsigis,Nandi, Gusii, Taita, Akamba, Gikuyu, Maasai and how they do their naming of new borns, age groups ,how they migrated and their numbering systems, without using the general term such as Nilotic,Nilo hamites, Afro asiatic, cushitic etc; since you are the epitome of intelligence. What makes you think we do not know anything about migrations on the African continent? Migrations happen all the time, even today they are happening. And who talked about pseudoscience?? Be carefull about blowing your trumpet.
@jc990jc-e6w You keep repeating yourself on DNA and migration and end up saying nothing new. And how sure are you the iphone was invented by the whiteman?? So the traffic lights were invented by a white too? Did you just suddenly come to the realisation that white colonisers did not invent science/genetics/history/antrhopology?? And which is this info or data that you say was collected?? Were you part of that collection team or you were just a beneficiary. And who is this afrocentrist hotep not rooted in science and antrhopology who would believe a narrative that all africans are all one group and so are their languages?? Why do you think you are the only one rooted in science and anthropology? You sure have a "Know it all attitude" Apart from Zulu and Khoisan, I have noted that you use general terms such as bantu,Southern Cushitics and Nilotics but barely use words that describe the Africa communities you are referring to. Borrowing of words from other communities is not rocket science. It happens all the time due to migration, but you have to go to the etymology of a word to know whether it was borrowed into a language or not.
It really is true. Human beings are very complicated. I'm here in America, a black man witnessing black people judging other black people who are not even light skinned- saying that they are not dark enough. The colorism goes both ways. We have a lot of black people that don't want to marry another black person if they are not dark enough ! Yes Yes Yes !... Other dark skin black people are considered not dark E N O U G H ! They have to be midnight.. dark blue.. purple-black ( which I S ! also beautiful ), to be considered " black ". We forget about the other side. Human beings are very complicated. Pray to God for all of our souls. May God have mercy on all of our souls. It's ! Not ! Black ! Or ! White !... It's ! Wrong ! Or ! Right !
Discrimination works in cycles, today it's, me tomorrow it's you. Which means, you treat me in a certain way, then I grow the passion to do the same to you. Before it was like that , dark skin was not desired, and now dark skinned people grew same passion for non dark skinned people.
@@Kenganda it's was a good video but she misrepresented the colorism part, the word she used as a nickname is used for Eritreans themselves among each other even in the same family and not in a hate discriminatory intention , the real history is that the Feudal Lords during raids used to have war captives who get enslaved from farther tribes that happen to have darker shade that's the reference the most respected Eritrean singer Yemane has that nickname nothing to do with superiority inferiority,Eritreans refer to themselves and every other African as Black earthy or Brown and Red for the guests colour, white is specifically used only for Europeans , she misrepresented even if unintentionally it has its own background and reality that doesn't need to be forced to western arab Asian other African countries background
It's interesting debate, but I think the Eritrean guest was very naive, although she is very well spoken, I think she failed to tell us the wealth & the have not. For instance in UK during Victorian era, there were a such thing, as " fair skin". So the desire to lighten skin is more of for " fair - skin " as fair skin associate with wealth and comfort. Yes we've as colouring with in as also in India, Pakistan, it's long long rooted, but as in Eritrea I can tell you in poetry, in estasism-desire: as for man it's dark, handsome, taller, strong nose... Etc. The same for woman tall brown, beautiful lips, eyes etc. As man in my late 40 I can tell you all the girls I fancy, or I loved : they were all chocolate, or dark skin, & I am a man can pass for Arab, or Morocco man😂
Colourism from colonisers may have some truth, but I think a little exaggerated. African colonialism was quite short, 1884 - 1960s compared to Latin America 1500s - present, various parts of Asia 100 - 400 years etc. If the black man was on top, they wouldn't be considered at the bottom and hence Africans wouldn't look up to outsiders.This is a problem that may persist until they catch up. As for slavery, it was widespread all over Africa long before the white man and Arabs got involved and there was quite some resistance from African chieftens to the British trying to end slavery in the early 1800s
There was also a major slave trade in Mali (Mali Empire & Transaharan slave trade) and Nigeria (Oyo Empire, Benin Empire e.g Dahomey etc etc). In South Africa you can find instances of Boers and Zulus hunting Khoisan people for amusement/entertainment as if they were animals. Go to Central Africa and you can find instances of cannibalization of indigenous Pygmy tribes and are considered lesser than human. Mali made alot of money from taking slaves from West Africa. Ghana still has slave castles till this very day also I'd like to mention. African Americans came back to Liberia and Ironically mistreated native liberians as well if you look at history. Placed them in Apartheid-like and slavery-like conditions until they revolted against them. This was after White Americans thought it would be a good idea to "send them Black Americans back home to Africa" and this project ended up failing instead. Also lets not forget British were the 2nd largest slave traders in history only to Portugal. Lets not act like they have some kind of higher morality compass than Africans when they did it in a larger scale than any group of people could ever imagine. They only ended slavery because they saw that they no longer needed the practice anymore since it was costing them more money than actually enriching themselves (hence why they didn't care when Italians were doing it) and when the industrial revolution took off slave labour became obselete meaning it became less efficent rather than just using machinery instead so they ended up wishing to divest from the slave trade. Post Industrialization clarity hit them hard.
@@thdoom81 Because most outside of our region are closely related to each other. The horn of Africa has always been very old & more isolated from the rest of the region for a multitude of factors (Language, culture and appearance). Or the seperation felt between Arabs and Europeans you can find the same thing even though typically both are seen as white by majority of people. Most people in the horn are remenants of surviving Nilotes and Cushites who have to essentially flee up North when majority of this continents indigenous habitants were assimulated through waves of migration. We are a minority so we are naturally going to be more protective & endogamous. That is how it works usually and we don't wish to lose our identities to a larger group. Otherwise you are pushing for us to mix ourselves out in favour for taking other peoples identities in Africa and we don't want that Had the roles been switched in terms of demographics where Bantus were a tiny minority, we would see an alternate reality where we are the ones complaining that Bantus aren't mixing with us and I'm the one making your comment. The entirety of the rest of sub-sahara africa has the possibility to ethnically replace all of us population wise, hence the otherness and the want to distance ourselves. It has nothing to do with skin color because Nilotes and other groups don't like this agenda as well & on average they are much darker than Bantus.
This is fair from truth we as Eritreans are always proud of who we are as people we respect our core values culture, society, heritage colorism is never an issue in our community generalizing us as having colorism issues is totally unacceptable. You are literally targeting blackmailing Eritreans for what they aren’t beyond fair part from truth you never discuss about Ethiopians, Somalians, Congolese, and others countries having colorism issues interracial marriage issues you just target Eritreans try to make your own narrative and assumptions. You keep bringing about Eritreans not marrying out their culture that’s who we are wanna continue our heritage our race believe that mix race over time erase your identity so we don’t like that.
We love our skin color. I dont love any other skin color the way I love the Habesha skin color. I love all skin tones but I love mine the best. My handsome man is Habesha. So what? Just love your own skin tone and leave us alone cuz we love our skin tone more. colorism? stop ism-ing everything. I love my color and yours is ok to me but I love my own. You can love your own like I heard some black guy saying he loves dark skin women. and we dont care if people are dark either. They just have to be Habesha. My sister has both this Eritrean girl's skin tone and my other sister has the Ugandan girl's skin tone. color is not the problem to us. We are a race. Habesha is as much a race as indian, Arab, Hispanic, black white etc. We are African but not black. And yea Arabs did enslave some Habesha and turned them muslim by force but we got over it. We are not Arab but we know we can grow without any of their influence. They have their country we have ours. I wouldnt marry an Arab either. They are racist against Habesha too but that doesnt make me black. I was oppressed as Habesha not black. We just resisted them. and I disagree with my Eritrean sister that we only want to be lighter. In our culture we say a beautiful dark Habesha is called Weyni meaning looking beautifully grape like. We have no color issues. we love our skin and we are brown. But it is more we like our race and identity not a difference of how dark someone is. My mom is light and my dad is dark but they are both Habesha. We love all our shades but it is my identity that I love and want to continue. We are different from Arabs, white, black, Somali, etc. we like our selves and we have a right to continue our race.
@@kilabob1200 the whole video was misinformation the guest completely misrepresented the culture and people whether bleaching colorism white preference black hate , its strange she was diplomatic not sharing what Eritreans suffer in Ug/sugar coating but went out of the way misinforming about the community adding to the injury
My humble question? Is there an identity so called " Black identity"? Are the Black people in Africa have any common identity, rather than similar skin color? 🤔
Can you interview someone who was born and raised in Eritrea so they will give us about their culture .
There comes a point where we need to stop blaming colonization. We give them too much power. It’s ashame we don’t love ourselves. It’s becoming pitiful and unattractive.
If you think colonization is over,then that means they've succeeded...
Light skin rules in all aspects of life. Truth
@@Jazz-fg2dmEast Africans have “Eurocentric “ features before yt ppl did. We are an ancient race . We are not mixed like ppl WANNA believe
@@MargaretNdlovu-q5wprior to colonization there was evidence that people still liked folks of lighter skin tone, I’m talking about the BC era of African empires
@@MargaretNdlovu-q5wSelf hatred in 2024 is a personal choice. Their mindset is the problem and we are responsible for our beliefs.
Am eritrean but darker than these Ugandans I see. I am proud of my darker skin color.
@@tedy-s9d Who told Ugandans are not proud? It's just that stupid dictator who's marginalising them thinking he can steal their country
No one cares about our skin color darker or lighter. Its not even what makes Eritreans look Eritrean.
Majority of our features just have a Habesha look. You just know when you see it "Ah this person is a Habesha!". We just know honestly 95% of the time. Same applies to Cushites who look similar enough to get confused.
If you are Nara or Kunama. Then most would know of these tribes as well. They are also distinct.
Blessings to you hawey. I had one grandmother was was literally the darkest woman I have known with Habesha features (literally the colour of many Sudanese and South Sudanese) despite being aboriginal Tigrigna blooded. My grandfather looked like a Yemeni Arab despite also being Habesha and loved her for her colour (and body/height). My other grandmother's mom was blond w White skin n coloured eyes...also Native to Eritrea not recently mixed within 7 or 8 gen from her, 6 gens of my maternal line is from Asmara and beyond is from the surroundings. We are proud of all shades n colours in my community and family...I have no idea what these people in the video are trying to do forcing a narrative which is not mainstream in our community to be the majority. The title is misleading.
@@Chatelaine0 When I get really tanned I can basically get really dark,. I think people forget that we have a nilotic base to our dna and sometimes it expresses itself more or less over your lifetime. My siblings are pretty light themselves and I'm brown sometimes I get darker. My brothers got a little bit darker as they got older not by tanning but just naturally, while I got a lighter over time naturally. It can be so random sometimes gene expression; photos of me as a kid vs teenager vs now as an adult have different skin tones.
It's obvious people are trying to push a narrative as a way to place us beside White people or something. Most people don't really care about color or hair type as long as you at least have "Habesha facial features" which 99% of us have so you will be okay. Granted obviously loose hair and light skin is preferred as better due to eurocentric beauty standard but people exaggerate how you will be treated. If you are cushites people can tell since we don't look too different and if you are Nara, Rashiada & Kunama most people can tell.
Thanks Hawey blessings to you as well. I was born in Asmara, my parents also met there. My grandmother had straight hair/light skin and my grandfather was dark brown very tall like 6ft+.
Me too.
So let me understand this , she is Eritrean, but lived in Saudi Arabia most of her life , but I find it interesting 🤔 that she speaks broadly on a country she has spent not so much of her life in , I'd like to hear from someone born and raised and their perspective living in Ghana now..
I agree with you born n raised in Saudi 🇸🇦 so she can't say that much as an eritrean born n raised there I can only disagree for whatever she's saying.
Is she a saudi citizen?..or Eritean citizen?..most Eriteans in Europe and middle east dont consider themselves as africans!..they associate themselves with Arabs..they is nothing wrong with being africans..lets appreciate ourselves..
@@fatmahnoor3717who told you that? Isn’t Eritrea literally located in Africa.Are you Eritrean yourself? I have never heard or met Eritrean who don’t think they are African.
@ am sorry i dont want to be an Eritrean!..am happy and proud to be A KENYAN!..nodody told me anything!..i did Geography in SCHOOL!..i have map of Africa!.. Eritrea is Not in East Africa!..i did not say Eritea is NOT in Africa!..Go back to school and learn English!..clearly you dont understand Eglish…i met Eriteans in Dubai and UK!..they told me they are Arabs from Africa!..😂😂😂 met several Eriteans outside Africa!…who told me they ARE NOT AFRICANS!..Eriteans and Ethiopians call kenyans Africans!..because they believe they are Not Africans!..lets be honest here!..
Absolutely she doesn’t even know Eritrea how come she open her mouth and talk about Eritrea
As an older White man from Ireland. I think that the 2 ladies are beautiful that are on the program no colour of skin is more beautiful than another ❤
Up the Irish! it's just programming. I grew up in the west, they feed it to you from day one from all angles. I get it why some get lost in the 'sauce' as the kids say.
Even to our hair, whether people except their Black hair. Our hair is versatile. We can do anything with our hair. Given to us by God himself. Be proud of your hair also.
Very interesting, informative, and cordial discussion!!! Let's have more of this kind of discussions. All three of you raise important issues gently. I am impressed.
The title is heavily misleading and wrong. It was applying a foreign problem as a blanket statement and forcing it on Eritreans. I think this is racist towards Eritreans!!! Just because we are lighter skinned than most Subsaharan and Saharan Africans...it doesn't mean we hate our colour the way they do!
This woman was born and raised in Saudi Arab and her knowledge about the Eritrean society is limited.
😂😂😂
Elaborate?
She mostly right.
If you don’t love you. No one else will. Black women of all complexions are beautiful.
To piggy back off your sentiment, if you don't love you, how can you genuinely love others.
The problem with Eritrean women is that a lot of them bleach their skin but people expect them to be light so no one questions their skin tone. Also you can't say the majority of Eritreans are light skin just look at Eritrean men. 80 percent if not more of Eritrean men have very dark skin. So when you say the majority are light are we talking about just the women? I am Eritrean and I have never seen a light skin Eritrean man and I know a lot of dark skin Eritrean women. She doesn't represent the majority of Eritreans. Eritreans comes in different shades. And why are women lighter than men ? I already answered the question. women tend to bleach their skin especially the very light one that's why every Eritrean man you will meet is very dark skin but the women aren't.
@@SaraAm91 skin whitening cream is used all across Africa Asia and the Caribbean’s. I’m not going to single them out. My point still remains. Love yourself fully!
@@SaraAm91 Nigeria is probably the biggest marketplace in the whole of Africa for skin lightening.
I'd argue in the horn of africa it's less prevelant thing. The women already know they are beautiful, sure some might participate but it isn't seen as a necessity for beauty since they will find a man anyways. But in other countries it's seen as a necessity and many men might not want them at all if they are too dark.
@SaraAm91 false. Then why is their whole body the same tone. They'd have to bleach their arms, hands and legs on a daily basis which they wouldn't have the time or money. The complexion is smooth and even
Informative! Thank you buddy!
There is no place that these colonizers have gone that they haven't created destruction on every level. As an African American this is so angering !
My friend, Africa had it's own issues before the "white colonizers" arrived. We just don't talk about it...
@@msylvini which issue
@@msylviniwhich issues?
I'd like to know as well ? Which issues? That comment is a representation of one of the destructions im referencing ... Destruction of the mind !! To make you believe they did no wrong was the most effective trick in the book.😢
@@msylvini Im sure it did but was it so much about wanting to be lighter? want thinner or curlier hair? Light colored eyes? Thinner lips? Saying that you don't look good if you're not mixed with Europeans, light colored Arabs or light colored Indians
This woman is completely divorced from reality. Within Eritrean society colorism is not an issue. However skin bleaching is an individual preference and it's more prevalent within Indian society.
Thats not true and if you lived within the community you would know. Being light skinned as measure of beauty is a common theory and is even present in many traditional songs. People make comments llike Tselam Gual isnt beautiful. Even in children so I think it is good to stay in touch in your community. I have also exprienced it myself.
@@sesenmehari5404 are you ethiopian?
Bro you must be a light skin Eritrean. I am a dark skinned Eritrean who has been called Tselim and Teqar. Colourism is problem. I am a man and it’s worse for women.
@@freebusta123If you are dark skinned than you are tselim. I have been called qäyih because I'm light skinned. Big deal.
@@sesenmehari5404You must be Ethiopian...We have lots of Tigrigna songs praising dark skin and women who are indigenous...In the words of the late Yemane Baria..Tefetewi Hibri Afreqawi Qorbet (The most beloved colour is the African Colour)...which came in all shades but was particularly referencing Gual Hageru with the dark skin. I don't speak other Eri languages besides Tigrigna and Arabic some Italian so I can't comment about other tribes. I have family members including myself sometimes when its wintery who get called Sibhi or Hasema for being too light.. this is beyond qayih light and by the comparison to undesired foods I don't believe its a compliment so it goes both ways....Yet still its not no where to the level of calling it colorism or racism like u see it in other African countries or Asian countries. Our TV actors dont even wear makeup most of the time and in my opinion look darker then the average I see in my community. I have a grandmother who was dark as night and another great grandmother who was darn near blond n blue...Both my parents and all my grandparents are Muslim and Eritrean and have at least 500 years history in Eritrean soil. I have siblings who took upon my very dark grandmother and the rest are medium to light...I never heard of anyone saying anything ignorant to either range of colour. We had more of a problem w certain eye colours bec family members were called cat eyes for having coloured eyes and it was something that came up as our popular comebacks during arguments which shows that the standard for beauty esp among Habesha is to be Brown skinned w Brown Eyes...not lighter is better like colorism suggests. I actually blv we as a nation are proud of our diverse skin colours and the proof is..often darker skinned women are married with children but u see a lot of lighter skinned women (myself and many I know) not or marrying later past 30s and 40s often having few or no children.
I'm so tired of how we treat each other, both men and women. Every race talk about how we look, but yet they'll be baking in the sun trying to look like us. Even having surgery, adding butts, and as Black females we do it too. Everyone aren't given curves even if you're Black. Be who you are
It's called playing exotic. White girls sometimes want to look exotic to have a higher demand in the dating market, because exotic women are universal, they attract all races of men. But there is also a key factor in exoticism, these are Eurocentric facial features, this is the foundation. If you have exactly these features, then the skin tone, even if it is dark, will have an insignificant factor. Therefore, white women can easily play exotic - sunbathe, make their lips a little bigger, or something else.
Black people need to wake up and used their good sense Joanita Maaya Oshay respect blessings 🇺🇬🙏
It's not just Eritrea. It's the whole world
eritreans dont even have colorism to that extent; I think she is exaggerating. Bleaching is not that common at all.
No do not blame the men. Women are smart enough not to use products that could be cancerous. This Eritrean girl comes across as very smart. Just like Juanita. But please to my sisters out there do not change yourself to for what you think men want.
As bm i agree with them. Culture is the masculine and community is the feminine essence aspects of any group of ppl.
@@DPpl-nu6kmculture has historically came from your mother just like in Black America if I see my mother wearing nothing but white women's hair what am I going to be into when I get older
@stacycarlton2056 wrong.. the reason why the mother you mentioned in your example wore the white woman's hair is because the MEN dictated subconsciously or blatantly that they preferred females w that type of hair... So it made her feel desired n attractive and of higher value. Men set the standard...women r just the marionette puppies.
1928 is 24 hrs ago. We Africans need to value each other. Respect to all Africans. Much love
Not many eritreans are light color as this woman. Interesting topic. As an eritrean never heard bleaching
@@tmichael9377 oh ok. Thanks for insight
Instead of it being an informative opportunity about Eritreans she added to the misinformation I don't understand
Actually, plenty are.
@@heruy8274 bro plenty of Eritrea are in Russia does it mean that's where the Eritrean diaspora is what's wrong with you guys, even the other Eritrean comments politeness and thanks while you are being misrepresented and insulted as thieves and prostitutes
The problem with Eritrean women is that a lot of them bleach their skin but people expect them to be light so no one questions their skin tone. Also you can't say the majority of Eritreans are light skin just look at Eritrean men. 80 percent if not more of Eritrean men have very dark skin. So when you say the majority are light are we talking about just the women? I am Eritrean and I have never seen a light skin Eritrean man and I know a lot of dark skin Eritrean women. She doesn't represent the majority of Eritreans. Eritreans comes in different shades. And why are women lighter than men ? I already answered the question. women tend to bleach their skin especially the very light one that's why every Eritrean man you will meet is very dark skin but the women aren't.
Great discussion
There can be colorism in the Eritrean community just like there's in the Ugandan community. That is the whole truth, people.
Very true
As a proud darker-skinned 100% Eritrean, I embrace my heritage and identity wholeheartedly. I believe we need to stop placing all blame on Europeans so called coloniser, especially when so many of us haven’t taken meaningful action beyond spreading hate. History is a complex, and if we are discussing injustices, let’s not overlook the role of Arabs, who enslaved and exploited Africans for centuries, often leaving generational trauma by impregnating by rapping African women and killing African men. So please, all Arabs have an African mother ancestors , if they like it or not but that requires intelligence and openers to want to know the truth.
When it comes to light-skinned Eritrean who boast about their heritage, I think it’s fair to ask critical questions: did. their ancestors participate in harming their own people by enabling such atrocities ?
2) did they betray their homeland in pursuit of personal gain?
For me, being unapologetically black and embracing our darker skin , represents a deeper pride-a pride in not being complicit in selling out our souls or people. It’s time to focus on unity and accountability rather than divisive narratives. Much love and God blessing you all
Great interview
YOU GIRL'S ARE VERY BEAUTIFUL AND VERY SMART
I'm an Eritrean who has been living abroad for quite some time now, but I originally come from Eritrea. What @kenganda hosts should realize is that Milca is quite different from the typical Eritrean mindset. There's a significant cultural gap between Eritreans raised abroad and those raised in the country. She's somewhat of an outsider to Eritrean culture due to her upbringing outside the country. While she made some valid points, there were a few mistakes in her representation of Eritreans raised in Eritrea (who make up the majority), especially regarding the Eritrean views on colorism and the Barya translation, among other things... but all in all, she's a bright young lady. Great job!
but isn't it true...ethiopians have and eritreans look down on blacks especially habeshas..they look down onthe blacks in the south
THEY ARE VERY BEAUTIFUL
@@Jazz-fg2dm yes we are awaiting this detailed breakdown lol
they're not special
True most of Eriteans are beatiful..most of them are mixed Race italian and native Eriteans!..remember Eritea was colonized by Italians!..even djiboutiis are mixed raced French and native djiboutis..
@@charlesmblakley3445 you seem to be suffering from a low esteem problem. Beauty comes in different ways.
@@fatmahnoor3717Ignorant comment. Eritreans dont have a single drop of Italian blood.
This is a global problem, light skin african are treated with favortism and preference. She can say shes annoyed but dont believe she tells people not to treat her so nice
I am a dark-skinned Eritrean Canadian, born and raised in Eritrea. Eritrea is a multi-ethnic, multi-cultural, and multi-religious society, and we all come in different shades of skin color. Light skin is not the majority, despite what you might see on social media. Eritrea has its issues, but prejudice and discrimination based on skin color is not one of them.
“However, this is true for some Eritrean immigrants or those born and raised overseas, due to exposure to Western standards of beauty.
I am Eritrean and This is not true for us
That's the reality my dear!!! I am Eritrean and this the truth in high percentage of people's mentality colourism between us.
This is the case With Eritrean Women outside of Eritrea, always frame our society based on Fabricated lie I grew up in Eritrea have never heard what she is talking about🤔 Yes there is preference as they are choosen Foreign men over their own men but Nobody is targeting them yet I think it is better for us to fight against these lies too even if they are Etitrean
@@fortunapuscale8676Tell me how. Have u seen our actors and musicians...most of them are much darker than the average Eritrean!!! Colorism they are talking about is being preferred in treatment and being worshipped for looking Whiter... like what u see in India and other African countries. In Eri communities Light skinned and Dark skinned are criticized the same. I've never seen a darker Eritrean being denied Salam bec their colour is offensive or being beat up or denied work for being from a different tribe known for their much darker colour!!!
@alamg39 this girl isn't speaking the truth, seriously; Eritreans do not have colorism issue there may be a few people, but ive never seen it or heard it; also the Italians were made fun of (half caste were made fun of)
Why not have the podcast last for 1 hour or more?? The podcast is short and getting shorter but the guests are amazing. It’s always ends abruptly which is so unfortunate. It should feel like a conversation but it feels like a chore. Great work though! Great guests! Just continue the conversation longer please.
Sadly colorism is a huge problem in East Africa. Openly and widely practiced
She is right, don't try to cover our communities ignorance.
It's worst problem in West Africa if you look by metrics.
It's just most attention focused on East Africa. Because we have the wrong African features because of cushitic ancestry. Most people don't like that generally in our continent.
If you aren't Bantu/West African = invader. Mentality.
Born and grown in foreign country, very unrealistic to represent Eritrea and its values. Of course, she is eritrean by blood, but remember guys values are imitated from where you grew and studied. Above all, she came from Saudi Arabia where racism is atop. Go to Eritrea and see the social cohesions despite diversities both ethnically and religious wise. Segregation is not only forbidden but also culturally unacceptable. It cannot be different when you're in Uganda or elsewhere. So, don't conclude based on her views as she knows little about the Eritrean values which are self-respect, and respecting others regardless their status in society. Eritreans keep low profile as a matter of respect for others. What she is talking about men and women is not unique to Eritrean man or woman. Just talking what is generally perceived by all nations and faiths.
In Europe, normally they ask you about your nationality wherever you go. I use to say black African but for an European it was very difficult to accept my black identity. Can anyone tell me where blackness starts? No one! Can you tell me what blackness is in Uganda and the Gambia at the same time? Peace!
I was born and raised in Eritrea. I would definitely accept your comments more than hers.
Am Glad you guys when too deep on this matter especially milca... I really relate with this matter as a black Eritrean! Much Love to Ugandans ❤
When I visited southern Morocco as tourist, I was impressed to find the Berbers quite proud of their melanin over the Arabs. So much so that they were vigorously promoting their language in competition with Arabic ,French and Spanish. Their present ruler, King Mohammed, is a hero to them because he gives support to this cause.
Great discussion!
Ethiopians and Eritreans appear to both have been influenced by colonialists - Italians, Arabs, etc.
Juanita is a beautiful woman, great facial symmetry and great smile!
Just because a woman is light complexioned doesn't automatically make her a beautiful woman!
I used to put Ethiopians and Eritreans on a pedestal but now have sincere love for myself and now more wise and would never put such women on a pedestal again!
Thing is, many East African women prefer a White man before they would even talk and date a Black American man!
They are not mixed though with Arab or Italian blood that’s their phenotype: from Burundi 🇧🇮, Rwanda, Somali, Ethiopian 🇪🇹, Djibouti 🇩🇯, etc have similar features from dark skinned to light skinned.
Same in west Africa: Mali, Mauritania 🇲🇷, Niger🇳🇪 , 🇹🇩 chad etc have l darker to lighter skinned black people with softer hair textures and softer face features
What the hell are you talking about about Ethiopian and eritrean women are very beautiful. And not every Ethiopian woman is light skin alot of dark skinned women are there too. I have been going to the Ethiopian village in Los Angeles for along time. And the beauty of it is they both love dancing in black American clubs they love seating down.
First of all Ethiopia 🇪🇹 is never colonized so where do you get that Ethiopia is influenced of colonization? Secondly even you do not see Italian influence on Eritrea because you can’t get Italian language speaking in Eritrea if you go today their culture religion their food everything exactly similar with Ethiopians so there is no such influence
@@Lionk-c4z liars
I am east African Somali. This is true. We prefer to go for white than other black African/African american
This is why we should find our validation strength in Jesus Christ. Then nothing else matters. The best relationship any human can have in growth and wellness is simply just getting to know their Creator. He sent His Son so we can just simply know Him. Talk to Him anytime, even in doubt, He is there and He has got your back even when we aren't looking. Put that First, and everything flows. I wish everyone peace, good positive things, growth, life, love, faith, and hope. God Bless you all 💕💕 Hebrews 11:6
This lady has exposed us so much yet I feel so ashamed of those things 😔
This colorism complex does not apply to all Ugandans. In western and northern Uganda, dark skin is prefered over light skin.
It is nice discussion, but the skin color doesn't matter. It is unity that makes a difference. Ethiopians defeat colonization by standing in unity. Africans need to have a mutual understanding and support each other.
We are ONE after all.
The day Africans will be truly free is when we embrace our God-given identity. When we see our skin color and hair texture among other features as beautiful, we boost our confidence and self-esteem, and no one can tell us we are not good enough. If you're reading this and you are struggling to embrace your Africaness, I pray you find the strength within you to embrace your beauty. Only then can you really achieve peace of mind. Competing with shifting standards of beauty will leave you empty. What will you do when the standard of beauty is dark skin and coily hair? I don't think there's anti-bleach cream😅. Right now, many people go to tan their skin to appear darker and get butt lifts or lip fillers. The world is changing and only those who are content with the way God made them will be truly happy.
WE ALREADY DO, THESE ARE OUTLIERS!!
color is always an issue let no one lie to you.. but if you have your sh*t together, you can more than compensate. it really doesn't matter how dark your skin is.. what matters is the quality of life you live, not how fair your skin is - there are people who are light, literally white, yet they live miserable lives. some are pitch black and they are happy, healthy, wealthy and giddy all day, every day
And men have absolutely no excuse when it comes to dating.. i have seen Ethiopian and Eritrean women, very light, with less than average very dark guys in Kenya.. very many of them; women think differently, your color doesn't matter that much if you have your sh*t together
Like me now, am dark skinned ( Nilotic) and am mostly attracted to dark skinned women.
True. In Jamaica even the baby soap has a bleaching elements in it.
I am Eritrean and proud
Colorism has effected the entire world 🌍
Revelations:The Great Serpent that Olde Dragon also known as Satan deceived the WHOLE WORLD of Dark mankind. Islam as taught by the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad and Minister Louis Farrakhan comes after all else fails. Peace.
Are there anti bleaching campaigns in Uganda.
It's really common
Especially from Congolese but men in Uganda don't bleach like nigerians
Big up the original people of Eritrea.. KUNAMA PEOPLE ✊🏾 #Originals
What do you mean by original? Either any fake people in Eritrea 🇪🇷? Where do you get original and fake human beings?
@ Kunama are known to be the first tribe in Eritrea before the rest even existed. If you are an Eritrean you would know that.
I am an Eritrean descent from North America, my Mamma TOLD me when I was a baby that there's NO such thing as racism BUT race cards.
My Mamma didn't give 2 F***S about colour, AND she WAS married to a millionaire!😂
She is representing
It is on you Ugandans in Uganda, not Eritreans. There should not be any colorism neither racism nor religious bigotry. It is your responsibilities to do check and balance. If the Orthodox church members don't want you to come in, tomorrow the clergies will try to impose some dictatorial rules and oppress the whole people in your own country. Just beware and defend the freedom of worship that you may have in Uganda today, protect your human dignities for all Ugandans. Remember that Eritreans in Eritrea is not responsible for anything that happens in Uganda.
Peace be among common people of all Uganda and those who migrate there.
just say the truth you guys are racist
@@thdoom81
the truth Eritrean is just like everyone else in the world
@@thdoom81
Africa and Europe, Asia,....all need Jesus. There is no racism in Christ
I'm glad Janita is back
@kengada do you mind next time bring Eritreans who can give as good information of the eritrea 🇪🇷 society's dont just bring anyone who has no deepth of their country's culture and knowledge .
She was being diplomatic to speak about the Eritrean situation in uganda not to hurt ugandan feelings while all this misinformation is attacking her people, but she doesn't mind bringing the most unrepresentative topics and wrong info about Eritreans adding to the misinformation thats putting them in danger, maybe her life is different from the rest of Eritreans but it doesn't give her the right to deny it while she's seeing a report calling her people prostitute workers and theives out of control
I'm honestly intrigued as to what kind of experiences this "Eritrean guest" has had in her life or what kind of stories she has heard to be blowing things out of proportion the way she is on this show. Eritreans barely have any issue with "colorism". The term "barya" is also used as a term of endearment. I recommend the music of our pop legend Yemane Ghebremichael.
Maybe one of those fake Eris
Under what circumstances do u call someone barya for endearment when it translates to slave ? It’s been used so causally that for most Eritreans it seems like their brains can’t even register what it actually means it’s delusional to even deny the actually meaning of the word because it’s become so normal when u see some one dark and want to call them barya ask what it means to any Eritrean ? Eritreans have a colorism problem lighter is always perceived better inside ur homes there is pictures of white jesus and virgin Mary that is held in the highest esteem but the devil is painted as black or darker …why ? Because That is what the standard has been set up on and if you can’t believe or if you all can’t see it it’s because you are all trapped in that delusional setup
Colorism within the Eritrean community is not an issue.
I agree
It definitely is.. that is not honest. As an Eritrea myself , I have witnessed ppl speaking negatively about ppl that are darker or the comments about you have “good” hair unlike others with non European hair. Eritreans and African really need to have an honest conversation.
Stop the lies😂 colorism is in every community unfortunately, so why act like your community is perfect. The light Eritreans are at the top of the social hierachy while dark skin is looked down just like how it is all over the world, so stop lying!
@@totodada4441Thats just personal and traditional preference and many Eritreans have light skin so its not a problem. Eritrea's problems is lack of rule of law, democratic government, citizen rights etc.
@@lightintheworld5690
I don't agree as a dark skin Eritrean born and raised in Eritrea I never experienced or witnessed discrimination because of my skin color however do people speak about color yes just like we speak about someone being too short too fat or too skinny I am married to a very light skinned man on the other hand one of my sister-in-law who is very light skinned long straight hair but very short everyone in the family calls her duka and they call me scura (Etalian dark)😀 it doesn't bother us at all so being dark skin in Eritrea is not an issue
Happy holidayz t' ya' all! 😂
The blaming the men is crazy when you have video of African women saying they want mixed babies or want babies with good hair.
OShay heard "BBLs" and said "BBLs in SAUDI?"😂
This girl is lost. Identity is lost from being born and raised in a completely different society, Saudi
Generations of Habasa people have been lost and disconnected from their own ethnicity and culture due to Shabia culture of immigration. Look at it from the big picture.
If there are a few things I've noticed about the average woman from the Horn of Africa, it's the prominent forehead, oblong face, relatively lighter skin, and wooly or loosely-curled hair. And this lady fits that description. Similar to Wongel Zelalem.
@jc990jc-e6w Yes. And the fairly pointed nose.
@jc990jc-e6w our features are not nilotic
@@Abel-u8xArabs don’t look like this either what a beg friend
They have arabe and italian blood. Plus most of them straighten their hair. They have curly and wooly hair
@@Abel-u8x yeah we are different groups. Even our paternal haplogroups are different from Nilotes. But its obvious we share a connection in some way or another. Some Horn Africans get the A haplogroup sometimes.
Nilotes is A and Horners is E1b1b. E & E1B1B originated in the Horn of Africa originally most believe.
It's not because of colour, it's because of beauty, any beautiful woman in Uganda will receive special treatment plus rich and well dressed men, i receive special treatment because of my dressing style
14:32 Eritreans will call a person a slave because the person's skin is rich in melanin... if that's not a colonized mind I don't know what is.
The association of black skin and "negro" physiognomy with slavery predate European colonialism. Not saying its morally right but understand that Eritreans and people from that general region are not your kinsmen. So dont project your pathology unto others.
@@heruy8274bro the lady was completely wrong and misrepresented Eritreans, to present it as if its a cultural norm of how Eritreans interact with people is sad with the type of culture of respect there is , upon that she didn't bring the historical background and what it actually refers to instead painted it with foreign racist hate narrative
the word she used as a nickname is used for Eritreans themselves among each other even in the same family and not in a hate discriminatory intention , the real history is that the Feudal Lords during raids used to have war captives who get enslaved from farther tribes that happen to have darker shade that's the reference the most respected Eritrean singer Yemane has that nickname nothing to do with superiority inferiority,Eritreans refer to themselves and every other African as Black earthy or Brown and Red for the guests colour, white is specifically used only for Europeans , she misrepresented even if unintentionally it has its own background and reality that doesn't need to be forced to western arab Asian other African countries background
the word slave is another word (gila)which is never used in colour context, the nickname is a reference directly to the captives in particular and their distinguishing feature was a darker shade , again I'm commenting on the use of the nickname and not Eritrean culture because that is the least and not representative of what actually consumes Eritrean culture and their interactions with people
@@heruy8274unfortunately everyone watching this now has the worst misrepresented picture of an amazing culture
The worst representation of the lived experience of color dynamics in Eritrea. Whatever she is talking about is based on what she thinks might be the case. The preference for looking lighter exists, but it is not for looking like a white person, which most contemporary Eritreans haven’t seen in person. Instead, it is more of a status thing. People from underprivileged backgrounds have to work outdoors, exposed to the sun, wind...etc; life is hard, and this can be seen in their skin due to lack of time and resources for self-care. The opposite is the case for women from well-off family backgrounds. You can see a stark difference in the skin tone of members of the same family who live in Eritrea and those who are in Europe.
As for the nickname word for a very dark-skinned person, it indeed exists; it is the name they used to call a slave in the old days. However, the thing she said that the people used to own slaves was wrong. Owning a slave, at that time, was the habit of the feudal of the Amhara. Being Christians, they were not able to enslave fellow citizens; as a result, they used to get people from the non-Christian population of the now central and south Ethiopia. And those people happened to be dark-skinned people, and their name was used to refer to slaves. By the way, for thousands of years, the light-skinned Christian Eritreans were being enslaved by the Arab Muslims because they could not enslave fellow Muslims Arabs even if they were poor.
Finally, I want to point out that there is also a nickname that the Eritreans use, in an insulting way, for people who are an extremely light-skinned person. So, it is very wrong to assume there is a firmly held objective preference for a light-skinned person in the people living in Eritrea.
Though she tried to give you some idea about us, Eritreans and our culture.
She has no idea about the culture, how strict and tyrant the government is, and how conservative the culture is. You better bring someone who was born and raised in eritrea, so that you can have the real idea of Eritrea.
My dad is way way darker than these two gorgeous girls but still proud Eritrean and black African
I did appreciate the openness about the colorism conversation.
Milka looks more west African than Habesha people tbh. Except that she is light skin. She looks like a Nigerian who bleaches her skin
No she don’t look west African 😂
She could definitely pass for African American
She looks South African
@@Huhn-Bruh She looks like few african americans but not most just like there are a few west african and southern african that looks like her but not most.The average african american looks like the groups they come from in africa most come from west africa.
Black Africans have the most diverse look on earth from phenotype to skin tone and size.Real life and not real life talk below.
Note- In real life some black or african americans just like white americans do not have any other race admixture.
Well most black americans may have european dna but it still not significant enough.For it to be significant and impact phenotype it needs to be 25% or up and that is not always the case for some. Having 1% asian or native american dna is really small and not significant as well and does not impact phenotype as well. Most white americans have other race admixture as well but tends to be smaller on average then the average black american real life race admixture but they have race admixture and for most of them too it's insignificant.
African americans look like the ethnic groups they come from in africa anyway.
Africans vary from all types of looks. In africa you could see africans(depending on the ethnic group and individuals) that look more like african americans.I should say african americans look more like the africans they come from.
Okay the above is real life by the way but when comes to american sci-fi/fantasy superhero comics it's a different story/different universes,laws,history etc.. and most african americans and white americans for example do not have any other race admixture at all. In comicbook superhero stories,shows,movies etc.. most white and black americans do not have any other race admixture and when a few do it's simplified. So the person is either 100% black or white,50% or 75% etc..
By way most latino/hispanic americans in comics are not white and are not classified as white,while in real life most are classified as white.
Note-in superhero sci-fi- fantasy comics most african americans are unmixed blacks, racism is less then in the real world and alot more blacks live in north africa then they do in the real world but those are different universes,with alot of different history,more advance technological achievements etc..
Of course writers jobs is to focus on superhero stories and not bring in to much real world stories,politics,dna stuff etc.. in comics.Besides the comic industry and many of the characters were created before most folks knew anything about dna etc..,so writers in the past and today still keep simple as possible when it comes to background, history etc..
By the way i saw some statistics saying that most black american before 1890’s were unmixed.
The black population that had some form admixture out grew that black american population that were unmixed,and it happen over time in 1800’s and more so the 1900’s.There could be varied reasons for that but in terms of raw numbers for example the unmixed black population was almost close in size to the black population in the 1930’s for example but that gap got wider faster i think in 1950’s or 60’s i think.
I liked this program because she was sincere with most of her information. However, she was very easy on her Eriterean and Ethiopian men. She seems to have found it easier, to blame the Eriterean/Ethiopian women for internalized White racism towards Dark Skinned Black people!! Could it be because she is afraid of the repercussions from the Eriterean/Ethiopian men?!!
I am a selfrespecting Indigenious Ugandan man who lives in the USA. I have lived and traveled through a number of African countries including Ethiopia. That is why I find it difficult as to why she didn't say that the Eriterean/Ethiopian men are responsible for the racism towards Dark skinned Black people. Yet Kenganda was able to say that Ugandan men have internalized White racism and prefer lightskinned women!!
In Ethiopia, Ethiopian and Eriterean men call Black men slaves (Bariya) and don't like it when their women date what they call Black (Bariya) slave men!! I was even attacked on the street for walking with an Ethiopian/Eriterean woman in 1974 Addis Ababa!! Hence I will say it from my own lived experience, that it is the Eriterean/Ethiopian men who practice racism against Darkskinned Black people. The women are usually acting according to what their men have influenced them to think and even force them to think!!
The women are insulted and can even be physically attacked for dating another Black African or none Nilo/Cushitic Hamite looking men. In Ethiopia, Eriterea and Somali Bantu Negros, and Nilotic/ South Sudanese looking native Ethiopians, are all called Bariyas and discriminated against!! They didn't allow them education. In fact when I was in Addis Ababa, I was always asked if I was from Gambela. You hardly could see the Native Black Ethiopians in schools or jobs!! All you saw were the lightskinned Ethiopians who call themselves Abeshas from the name Abysinia/Abysinians which meant Mixed race. Ethiopia was a name which refered to Central, East and parts of Southern Africa but generally it was a name used by the Greeks, to describe all Black people. The name Ethiopia was appropriated by the Abysinians after they joined the Greco Roman armies to defeat the Black African armies, and the Abysinian King Ezana turned Abysinia into a Greek Orthodox Christian country in 325 AD!! To prove this point, the ocean right next to Congo, Angola and West Africa was called the Ethiopic Ocean which was intentionally changed to the Atlantic Ocean!!
Interesting insight!
Have heard and read about the Ethiopian and Eritrean men who call darker skinned Black men "Bantu" and "slave" while also not being amenable to their women dating African American men or other non-Ethiopan/non-Eritrean men.
But, here is the thing, I have no fear whatsoever and if I wanted to data an Ethiopian/Eritrean woman then I would.
But, I would not put a Ethiopian/Eritrean woman on a pedestal or a non-Black woman over a Black woman who is from another part of Africa!
As previously stated, I have seen many Ethiopian/Eritrean women idolizing White men and some would blatantly do so.
There appeared to be a degree of intentionality on the Ethiopian/Eritrean women's part to breed out and have mulatto children.
In fact, many of the light complexioned women in many parts of America and the Caribbean have the same mindset!
Thank you for the great history explanation 😊
Well as an eritrean born and raised In eritrea shocked to read some of people's opinions and what they call knowledge. And I'm wondering Milka is a diaspora born and raised woman from all the eritreans in kampala you think she's the only person to represent or discuss issues of Eritreans ? As for me I can never buy what ever she says cos she has never ever been born and raised with in my own society so I can say she's not anyone who can tell anything about my own people.I wonder why they only bring those Saudi grown eritreans what is it they really knw about us as society and as a country.its like you bring a ugandan citizen who grow up in usa to tell you about life and ugandan culture. Anyways you all chill .❤ all ugandan people.
Do you speak any Habesha languages? No you don't, so how do you know Habesha means "mixed race". Stop lying it does not mean mixed race. Ethiopia is the greek word found in the bible meaning cushite. Bantus are not Cushite so therefore they aint Ethiopians. White people think every black african is ham/cush and might out of ignorance labeled you as such but we all know Biblical hamites does not have relate to negroids
@@juliamccarthy6695 He didnt spit any facts just lies. What "Black african" armies fought greco-romans? lmfao
Skin bleaching is an individual choice but colorism should stop into any colored communities.
The fact that she was born and raised outside of Eritrea showed a little bit of exaggeration bc she never lived and felt Eritrea from inside. If she also was born in conservative and racist countries like Saudi it's normal that she can have that. I suggest you also chat with a woman who was born and raised in Eritrea(until maturity) then you can balance between the two.
In Somali culture, beauty is intricately tied to features that convey strength, elegance, and character rather than solely focusing on skin tone. The ideal of beauty centers on the grace and symmetry of facial structure, emphasizing qualities such as a well-proportioned face, distinctive bone structure, a slender, elegant neck, and a refined nose. These attributes are cherished as markers of both physical beauty and a person's presence and poise.
The Somali perspective on beauty values inner character alongside outward appearance. Qualities like integrity, good faith, and kindness are seen as enhancing a person’s allure, creating a balanced ideal where personality and physical presence are harmonized. This philosophy reflects a deep-seated cultural understanding that beauty is a blend of physical form and inner virtue, with no emphasis on skin color or complexion. In this view, the Somali people celebrate diversity within their communities, valuing each person’s unique attributes and rejecting the idea that beauty should be limited to certain shades or hues.
aka racism
All I can say to you is that take this complaint seriously! Ugandans are tolerant people but they can be vicious when provoked. So just work on your problem of civilisation
As I am listening. I feel people aren't being honest in these conversations. True, you can think you are beautiful all day, but if you are a heterosexual woman and you are not getting approached by men or your beauty validated, it will take a toll on you. So it is the men. We don't live in a bubble, a heterosexual woman wants to be desired by a man, so i don't fault women for conforming or acquesing to what men prefer. Women want attention typically from men. It's natural, so the men need to be accountable for why women feel like lighter and being mixed looking is better. The Eritrean woman told the truth, but the other lady corrected her to appease the male audience.
Well, unfortunately, we live in a patriarchal society that centres everything around the male gaze. As women we need to move away from that, because we do not need a man's validation, we need to understand that beauty is greater than how you look but also the kind of person you are, otherwise you end up with a bunch of shallow people. Yes it is nice to be told you are beautiful, but beauty is much deeper than that. A man's preference is also determined by the society he is raised in because men in my community prefer their own women who are darker and richly melanated over a white or lighter woman. With that being said, most people like symmetrical faces, so it's not always about complexion and I have been amongst communities where colourism is rampant, yet they have complimented my features, my height and my complexion too. Some people can look past skin complexion and actually see features too. For us South Sudanese, we actually acknowledge richly melanated skin is part of our beauty.
I can said that she doesn’t know that much about Eritrean history or culture. I don’t know in what kind of family she grows up, it’s absolutely there is no colorism issue as she explains.
Oshay, you must be struggling in your soul about some of these revelations you encountered daily in Africa. #Africans freedom isn't anytime soon.
She's a big liar. Blaming colonizers instead of addressing the colorism mentality of Eritrean itself
Not. Saudi Arabia have a long history with colonialism and slavery , even when they were polytheist / pagan , middle eastern enslaved black people.
@DearBill we all know Saudi Arabia has long history of islamic colonialism and slavery but that dosen't deny that Eritreans have superior complex and racism towards their darker skin west and central Africans
I'm Eritrean I've all kinds of eritrean friends and family we all have differ colors light brown dark,chocolate very dark too even in my own family but we don't see color unfortunately this woman can never represent or talk the reality of my people ger knowledge is very limited cos she's a diaspora raised eritrean citizen .
Infact majority of my my people we are dark skinned incase you don't know and marriage preference in her house hold where she grew up in Saudi might have been by color sorry you all color is nothing what you should see is personality is she a wife material ...cos looks can never take you far.
@@TingTong2568 Just because we don't consider ourselves the same as you and don't want to be mixed out until we are unrecognisable as people isn't having a superiority complex. It's called trying to preserve our identity.
We feel the same way about arabs generally as well. If you went into our communities you can hear people arguing we should kick them out of our countries before. They have a very negative rep in my country for an example, your lucky your people don't get half of the hate. Arab-African coastal relations right now are at their very worst, especially with what UAE is doing to our countries.
We aren't exactly fond of either is my point. Our preference is usually our ethnic group, if not then at least someone from the country and if not at least from a neighboring horn african country.
I have never heard of Eritrean women bleaching their skin.
The African need to know about the east African community specifically Ethiopia 🇪🇹 somalia and Eritrea 🇪🇷 even in their own family they look 👀 different too light skin , brown and dark skin too but others African most part they look unlike interms of skin colors
Not the dark knuckles!🤣
It's not the men it's "the Man", the man that taught the men. Prior to colonization and indoctrination were the men checking for lighter skinned women? Tastes can be influenced.
The Modesto Brocos painting. Great reference.
To the Eritrean girl: beta'mi hamiqki beti zhabkiyo ri'ito.
Given the fact that this youg lady was born and raised outside Eritrea I do not want to judge her, but the truth is Eritrea's war for independence from Ethiopia for example was largely driven and motivated by the fact that unlike Ethiopians, they were colonized hence they fought to preserve their colonial past and legacy...their most sober argument to want to separate from Ethiopians has always been "colonial borders had to be respected".....To be brutally honest they felt more advanced than Ethiopians because they unlike Ethiopians lived under the more apartheid like but "advanced" Italians, despite the fact that they (Eritreans) actually speak the same language with people of northern Ethiopia and culturally no difference whatsoever in their cultural practice or values.....having said that I agree with here that there are social prejudice within both Eritrea and Ethiopia proper, but then so in Kenya, or even the relatively homogenous Somalia...again the honest truth about colorism is it is an African wide if not worldwide issue that needs to be addressed as such rather than sugarcoating and blaming it on long gone colonialists ..the root cause may be colonialism but our own self hate and desire to be what we are not is serious to the point it become political identity and a cause for destabilization of Africa !!!!!
my fellow habesha, this is not true. Eritreans didn't fight to preserve colonial borders. They fought to leave an oppressive empire. For 100s if not 1000s of years, Ethiopians always venture north to force Eritreans to pay tribute in grains or gold. As recently as the late 1800s, Ras Alula Abanega's invasion resulted in the genocide of 50-60% of the Nara population of Eritrea. This has been the history of both countries. Why would anyone fight 30 years to preserve "colonial boundaries" if being reunited with Ethiopia was such a great thing? The logical answer is obvious. Ethiopia was an empire of oppressed groups. Power traded between the Amhara and Tigray. With the rest of the population being trodden under. Even under the currently oppressive Eritrean govt, no one dreams of re-uniting with Ethiopia.
@TH-qk6ez You got it right, but there's no skin bleaching in Ethiopia, I have never heard of it. Ethiopia, there is not that much colorism. Eritrean hates to be confused with Ethiopianes, and they get very angry 😠 😡 if someone thinks 🤔 they look like Ethiopians 😀 😃but there's no difference between Ethiopia and Eritrean. We look the same. We eat the same food, the same culture.
The Eritrean Ethiopian war is mostly a geopolitical war.. first of all amhara exceptionalism made them mistreat and try to humiliate and subjugate tigrinya... The Arab and some European countries felt threatened by Ethiopia in what they considered their sphere of influence in the red Sea,mandeb straits and horn of Africa. Ethiopia itself was a brutal empire that enslaved indigenous Africans and expansionary in nature.
Ethiopias future aggression had to be contained by blocking its access to the red Sea and dividing its borders.
I know UK, USA, U@E want Ethiopia to annex Somalia and that's why Egypt and turkey are trying to prevent this
First are you an eritrean ? I have mo idea and you think eritreans felt more advanced than ethiopians hmmmmm I wonder .And you are talking about getting our independence please back of from our legacy and history .we have never been part of ethiopia and we will never ever be. It's like you are telling me kiswahili is shared by east africans even tribe wise they do so they have to be one country .Incase you didn't know there was no fixed borders before colonization in africa but ther also was invisible borders let's say cos we were ruled by kings and queens .By the way cos this girl grown up in Saudi I do judge her for the lack of knowledge as for me if I ve no idea about any society I can never speak saying may be its like that I think it's like dat no way you have to come with some fact knowledge cos you are introducing a society to other people you have to takecare not to mislead people.
+ignorant people who dont know our history talking about our country like they are experts
I think colourism is everywhere, but people were already a different structure created spefically the Gods way.
Lineage is more important than colour as far as my people's concerns.❤😅
Kenganda, I am afraid you are interviewing this deaspora kids. Who has no idea about Eritrean mind set, I ask you to do your research or interview some mature Eritreans , example google Abraha deboch & Zeray Deres
yeah she doesnt know what she's talking about! ive seen dark and light skin together ; I dont get where she's getting this from?? it sounds anecdotal to her own experiences or family but I have never heard this in Eritrean or Ethiopian communities; habesha people are proud of who they are and their appearance.
The notion that all Eritrean have lighter skin color is just a myth. Eritreans come in every skin shade and physical appearance.
right the girl doesnt know what she's talking about
.. And also dont just assume that because a woman or man is light skinned that she or he is a good person.. people are people, dark or light some are bad, some are good
judge people's character and how they treat others, not how they look
Eritrea consist of 9 different ethnic groups with different languages facial features like nose hair type body mass skin color differs some are black , dark , light brown ,brown, ,
Truly speaking when I first see Milka my assumption was that she's Kikuyu or mukamba and not Eritrea ,
The word milka used (barya) is an Amharic word and it's meaning is (slave) during that time all slaves have a black skin color. So even today people use that word (barya) to dark skin colored people ,
I think we Africans do lack a self conference and that's the reason why we look up to white people as the limit of everything, I think we should appreciate how we got created , I'm an Ethiopian traveled in east Africa so I've seen beautiful Kenyan ,Ugandan, sudanise congolise Rwandise Tanzanian, I think African if travelled all over they can find beautiful people, I was thinking Ethiopians are the most beautiful sadly not that what I learnt when travel out of Ethiopia.
****I was hoping you guys will touch on the Black woman and Arab man conjugation that created the Eritrians, Somalis and Ethiopians, similar to Dominican republic where they all have atleast 42% African dna.
Bredda. This is partly an assumption and depends what exact ethnic/tribal community you refer to in the Horn (Oromo, Saho, Kunama, Afar etc). Even AncestryDNA treats Ethiopia/Eritrea as a 'point of origin' not a mixture. Maybe some of the Sudanese 'Arab' tibes - yes. But remember the oldest woman (skeleton) found 'Lucy' was in the Horn. I don't think comparisons with Dominicans is right for the different ethnics groups in the Horn/East Africa.
@@ibnzak6145 Lucy is from Kenya. The biracial looking groups have either a Black man or Woman in mix with Arab. The Arabs were the worst slave traders and s*x was one of their weapon.
@@ibnzak6145 Not really Lucy was found in Kenya, and koisan and Nilotic are older than Cushitic.
@@HoodsGlobal in Ethiopia and general the region aswell as in other parts of africa the victims of the Arabs, the whites and others were the darkskinned tribes who were no early followers of a monotheistic religion and they still remained dark, phenotype differ based on youre environment. The lighter ones live in colder climates and on mountains that were inaccessible to colonizers, africa is a continent with diverse indigenous populations. The Dominican Republic is a different case what you are saying about them is true but the mixing of the horn was not common and in the rare cases it happened that the children were rejected unless is was their father who decided to be with a foreign women because in tradition you only follow the fathers lineage. On the contrary, many people in southern Saudi Arabia or Yemen have East African grandfathers as they were inherited from northern Ethiopians and Eritreans at the time of the Kingdom of Axum.
It's fiction scientifically historically the flow of people is from the horn outside, they are Africans cushites and that's their features,
I’m Ugandan my I deal Man is dark skin and tall
We are Eritrean we have light and black colour we are African if some think we are not African please come tell us in our country don't hate us because our colour what the fuck is instead of working together to make dominant Africa .
In Eritrea we don't treat people nicer because of their skin lighter , wtf i don't understand talking about skin
seriously! where did she get this from???
Sad to hear that, why is the skin tone relevant to define the worth of a person, especially in Africa ??? That dark chocolate skin tone makes women very appealing....
Strange to hear Oshay say that Somalis are lighter skined than other Africans. We have lived with Somalis in Kenya all our lives and they are no lighter skinned than other Africans. Where did he get this view from?? Maybe he is seeing the skin bleaching and gets confused. Bleaching ones skin is just a manifestation of an inferiority complex. Another thing, the word Mzungu is acually derogatory. In classical kiswahili it comes from the word mizungu which in those days and also today does not connote white.
what does mizungu mean originally that makes it derogatory?
@@msylvini In classical Kiswahili the word "mzungu" means a phantasm, a mirage, a fib, a lie, a hoax. This must have been the reaction of the locals at the Eastern African coast when they first interacted with the whites who had landed at their coastline. Mzungu is singular and its plural is mizungu. The word simply got a totally different meaning over time.
@jc990jc-e6w If you read what I wrote, I talked about the Somalis I have interacted with throughout my life in Kenya. Africans will always have different shades of skin even among their own communities. And for your information the word "bantu" means people/ human beings. This was a misconception by the white colonisers who could hear different communites in parts of Africa describing themselves or "bantu", "abantu", "andu" etc. These colonisers then wrote history books describing certain groups of people as "bantu". We in Africa have accepted that word, without finding out how it came to be used to describe a whole group of people in Africa.. So, white people, Africans of all shades, Chinese, Indians, etc. are all bantu, abantu, andu etc. Also the number 100 is pronounce the same in the Kipsigis/kalenjin and the Kisomali languages. Also the numbers from five or six to number ten is the same as In the Kipsigis/Kalenjin and the Kisomali languages.The word for river in Gikuyu, is the same as it was in ancient Egypt. The word "asiis" or "asis" meaning goddess is the same in the Kipsigis/Kalenjin language as it was in acient Egypt. The word silanga meaning dam in Kikamba is the same as in the Kipsigis/Kalenjin languages. Sorry for diverting but it is important for Africans to research more about themselves rather than let others do it for them.
@jc990jc-e6w First remember I talked about similarities in languages. I did not talk about any DNA. or genetics. What you call light skin in somalis is just a nuance in African melanin skins. We see it everyday. Most Somalis I see everyday have African melanin skins as every other African. And what makes you think we do not know the history of ancient Egypt? Just because some of us don't blow our trumpets about being experts in anthropology or genetics or any other field, doesn't mean we don't know anything. And who are these people you keep referring to as bantus anyway. Can you describe to us what "bantu" is, because you describe yourself as a black American who knows more than we Africans on the continent. And who are Kikuyans?? Maybe you can enlighten us on the number and names of the different clans of Somalis , Luo, Dinka, Nuer, Kipsigis,Nandi, Gusii, Taita, Akamba, Gikuyu, Maasai and how they do their naming of new borns, age groups ,how they migrated and their numbering systems, without using the general term such as Nilotic,Nilo hamites, Afro asiatic, cushitic etc; since you are the epitome of intelligence. What makes you think we do not know anything about migrations on the African continent? Migrations happen all the time, even today they are happening. And who talked about pseudoscience?? Be carefull about blowing your trumpet.
@jc990jc-e6w You keep repeating yourself on DNA and migration and end up saying nothing new. And how sure are you the iphone was invented by the whiteman?? So the traffic lights were invented by a white too? Did you just suddenly come to the realisation that white colonisers did not invent science/genetics/history/antrhopology?? And which is this info or data that you say was collected?? Were you part of that collection team or you were just a beneficiary. And who is this afrocentrist hotep not rooted in science and antrhopology who would believe a narrative that all africans are all one group and so are their languages?? Why do you think you are the only one rooted in science and anthropology? You sure have a "Know it all attitude" Apart from Zulu and Khoisan, I have noted that you use general terms such as bantu,Southern Cushitics and Nilotics but barely use words that describe the Africa communities you are referring to. Borrowing of words from other communities is not rocket science. It happens all the time due to migration, but you have to go to the etymology of a word to know whether it was borrowed into a language or not.
There ARE Eritreans that are REALLY dark skinned, I believe they're called the KUNAMA tribe.
Check history books...text books or so.
It really is true. Human beings are very complicated. I'm here in America, a black man witnessing black people judging other black people who are not even light skinned- saying that they are not dark enough. The colorism goes both ways. We have a lot of black people that don't want to marry another black person if they are not dark enough ! Yes Yes Yes !... Other dark skin black people are considered not dark
E N O U G H ! They have to be midnight..
dark blue..
purple-black ( which I S ! also beautiful ), to be considered
" black ". We forget about the other side. Human beings are very complicated. Pray to God for all of our souls. May God have mercy on all of our souls.
It's ! Not ! Black ! Or ! White !...
It's ! Wrong ! Or ! Right !
Discrimination works in cycles, today it's, me tomorrow it's you. Which means, you treat me in a certain way, then I grow the passion to do the same to you. Before it was like that , dark skin was not desired, and now dark skinned people grew same passion for non dark skinned people.
In the whole of animal kingdom only humans discriminate others cos of their skin colour.That goes to show how vain n primitive they really are
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blue as in that cartoon girl on the Proud Family
Oshay needs a stylist badly
im truly dusty
@ least your honest lol not to mock just the big sneakers and the tracksuit bottoms need to go 😂
Why? Because you need to dress him. Go find something to do.
😂@@Kenganda
@@Kenganda it's was a good video but she misrepresented the colorism part, the word she used as a nickname is used for Eritreans themselves among each other even in the same family and not in a hate discriminatory intention , the real history is that the Feudal Lords during raids used to have war captives who get enslaved from farther tribes that happen to have darker shade that's the reference the most respected Eritrean singer Yemane has that nickname nothing to do with superiority inferiority,Eritreans refer to themselves and every other African as Black earthy or Brown and Red for the guests colour, white is specifically used only for Europeans , she misrepresented even if unintentionally it has its own background and reality that doesn't need to be forced to western arab Asian other African countries background
It's interesting debate, but I think the Eritrean guest was very naive, although she is very well spoken, I think she failed to tell us the wealth & the have not. For instance in UK during Victorian era, there were a such thing, as " fair skin". So the desire to lighten skin is more of for " fair - skin " as fair skin associate with wealth and comfort. Yes we've as colouring with in as also in India, Pakistan, it's long long rooted, but as in Eritrea I can tell you in poetry, in estasism-desire: as for man it's dark, handsome, taller, strong nose... Etc. The same for woman tall brown, beautiful lips, eyes etc. As man in my late 40 I can tell you all the girls I fancy, or I loved : they were all chocolate, or dark skin, & I am a man can pass for Arab, or Morocco man😂
She doesnt know history...barya is a tribe..and they are darker.
right, bray was more for people who were nonhabesha! She is really ignorant of her people and culture.
Colourism from colonisers may have some truth, but I think a little exaggerated. African colonialism was quite short, 1884 - 1960s compared to Latin America 1500s - present, various parts of Asia 100 - 400 years etc.
If the black man was on top, they wouldn't be considered at the bottom and hence Africans wouldn't look up to outsiders.This is a problem that may persist until they catch up. As for slavery, it was widespread all over Africa long before the white man and Arabs got involved and there was quite some resistance from African chieftens to the British trying to end slavery in the early 1800s
There was a major slave trade and practice of slavery in Eritrea and Ethiopia until British influence ended the practice in early 20th century
There was also a major slave trade in Mali (Mali Empire & Transaharan slave trade) and Nigeria (Oyo Empire, Benin Empire e.g Dahomey etc etc). In South Africa you can find instances of Boers and Zulus hunting Khoisan people for amusement/entertainment as if they were animals. Go to Central Africa and you can find instances of cannibalization of indigenous Pygmy tribes and are considered lesser than human.
Mali made alot of money from taking slaves from West Africa. Ghana still has slave castles till this very day also I'd like to mention.
African Americans came back to Liberia and Ironically mistreated native liberians as well if you look at history. Placed them in Apartheid-like and slavery-like conditions until they revolted against them. This was after White Americans thought it would be a good idea to "send them Black Americans back home to Africa" and this project ended up failing instead.
Also lets not forget British were the 2nd largest slave traders in history only to Portugal. Lets not act like they have some kind of higher morality compass than Africans when they did it in a larger scale than any group of people could ever imagine. They only ended slavery because they saw that they no longer needed the practice anymore since it was costing them more money than actually enriching themselves (hence why they didn't care when Italians were doing it) and when the industrial revolution took off slave labour became obselete meaning it became less efficent rather than just using machinery instead so they ended up wishing to divest from the slave trade. Post Industrialization clarity hit them hard.
@@keshi5541 but africans don't look at each other the way you guys do...
@@thdoom81 Because most outside of our region are closely related to each other. The horn of Africa has always been very old & more isolated from the rest of the region for a multitude of factors (Language, culture and appearance). Or the seperation felt between Arabs and Europeans you can find the same thing even though typically both are seen as white by majority of people.
Most people in the horn are remenants of surviving Nilotes and Cushites who have to essentially flee up North when majority of this continents indigenous habitants were assimulated through waves of migration. We are a minority so we are naturally going to be more protective & endogamous. That is how it works usually and we don't wish to lose our identities to a larger group. Otherwise you are pushing for us to mix ourselves out in favour for taking other peoples identities in Africa and we don't want that
Had the roles been switched in terms of demographics where Bantus were a tiny minority, we would see an alternate reality where we are the ones complaining that Bantus aren't mixing with us and I'm the one making your comment. The entirety of the rest of sub-sahara africa has the possibility to ethnically replace all of us population wise, hence the otherness and the want to distance ourselves. It has nothing to do with skin color because Nilotes and other groups don't like this agenda as well & on average they are much darker than Bantus.
This is fair from truth we as Eritreans are always proud of who we are as people we respect our core values culture, society, heritage colorism is never an issue in our community generalizing us as having colorism issues is totally unacceptable. You are literally targeting blackmailing Eritreans for what they aren’t beyond fair part from truth you never discuss about Ethiopians, Somalians, Congolese, and others countries having colorism issues interracial marriage issues you just target Eritreans try to make your own narrative and assumptions. You keep bringing about Eritreans not marrying out their culture that’s who we are wanna continue our heritage our race believe that mix race over time erase your identity so we don’t like that.
We love our skin color. I dont love any other skin color the way I love the Habesha skin color. I love all skin tones but I love mine the best. My handsome man is Habesha. So what? Just love your own skin tone and leave us alone cuz we love our skin tone more. colorism? stop ism-ing everything. I love my color and yours is ok to me but I love my own. You can love your own like I heard some black guy saying he loves dark skin women. and we dont care if people are dark either. They just have to be Habesha. My sister has both this Eritrean girl's skin tone and my other sister has the Ugandan girl's skin tone. color is not the problem to us. We are a race. Habesha is as much a race as indian, Arab, Hispanic, black white etc. We are African but not black. And yea Arabs did enslave some Habesha and turned them muslim by force but we got over it. We are not Arab but we know we can grow without any of their influence. They have their country we have ours. I wouldnt marry an Arab either. They are racist against Habesha too but that doesnt make me black. I was oppressed as Habesha not black. We just resisted them. and I disagree with my Eritrean sister that we only want to be lighter. In our culture we say a beautiful dark Habesha is called Weyni meaning looking beautifully grape like. We have no color issues. we love our skin and we are brown. But it is more we like our race and identity not a difference of how dark someone is. My mom is light and my dad is dark but they are both Habesha. We love all our shades but it is my identity that I love and want to continue. We are different from Arabs, white, black, Somali, etc. we like our selves and we have a right to continue our race.
Because you people have not been to nigeria go to market and you will see many people like who never even use cream
Really informative episode, guys!
thank u!
@@kilabob1200 u fetishizing them can also be a problem
@@Elisbaan I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
@@kilabob1200 the whole video was misinformation the guest completely misrepresented the culture and people whether bleaching colorism white preference black hate , its strange she was diplomatic not sharing what Eritreans suffer in Ug/sugar coating but went out of the way misinforming about the community adding to the injury
My humble question?
Is there an identity so called " Black identity"?
Are the Black people in Africa have any common identity, rather than similar skin color? 🤔