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I've purchased a lot of tools over the last few years, and these 5 are the ones I regret the most! Let me know down in the comments what tools you regret buying. Each of those tools serve a purpose in a lot of situations, but for what I build at the moment, they haven't been much of a help. - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
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Pastrami I absolutely love my cordless brad nailer and I spent $300 on my Dewalt. I own my home so I am constantly finding ways to use it. I think you’ll use it much more often when you buy a place so don’t get rid of it. I also LOVE my sliding miter saw.
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I have a miter saw on a stand with wheels. It shows laser lines on both sides of cut. Can’t imagine going without it but it boils down to what works for you. I had a jointer but got rid of it and don’t miss it.
Pastrami! Based on the sanding tools you don’t like, I think you might be using pressure more than paper grit to do the sanding. If you’re having to press into the Rigid hard enough to stop the belt, you need a coarser grit belt and lighter pressure. It’s a balance.
Great video!
Right! They are for smoothing the edges on curves, not reshaping them. (hand rasps are great for what he was trying to do)
Get real close with a band saw or jigsaw, then finish with the spindle sander.
Pastrami! I think my biggest discussion point to add is that your tools should reflect the projects you're working on. You mention it on each tool the situations it works well in, but as a purchasing guide and overall philosophy, your projects should guide your purchases
I couldn’t agree more! When you NEED a tool for a project, you already KNOW it 😀. But we are all guilty of buying new tools because they’re shiny 🤣
@@SpencleyDesignCo i thought the reciprocating saw would be on this list
@@woodwizard259 Pastrami! nope, it’s a multi-use tool, bedroom attachments😂🎉😂🎉
Thank you and very well. Put that was really frustrating me. I would like to also add, learn how to use the tool properly. Also, don't show brands like they made a bad product just because you didn't buy the right tool.
@@SpencleyDesignCo what are you talking about… you’re a crow, I’m not a crow….. ooo shiny. I need it. Lol 😂
If you install any type of molding inside of a home, the cordless nail gun is a game changer. In the workshop I tend to use mind when building a quick jig for something, which it is way nicer to have a battery powered one vs charging the air compressor and dragging the cord across the shop.
That's why I bought mine. I put in a taller baseboard in my house and finished out some door openings and the cordless nail gun was a must. It saved so much time.
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The Ryobi misfires way too often to use on pieces that you don't want to cut again, namely all crown imo. It's also harder to place the nail exactly where you want it.
The SLIDING miter saw is the bomb. Vastly more useful than a regular chop saw. I would have limited use for a chop saw, but the slider is my go-to for a vast array of work. The slider allows all sorts of functional possibilities that go beyond simple chops, plus a vastly extended range and control over depths and placement of cuts. The slider is a hole different animal.
One of my early saws was a Craftsman 8-1/4" slider that is still super useful cutting all sorts of lumber (even 4x4 and 4x6) despite it's small size - because it slides. Of course it shines on trim too with a good blade. The slider is the only way to go for that style of saw.
I agree. I started with a regular miter saw and found it limited due to it's limited range. The sliding miter saw I replaced it with is much more useful.
Pastrami makes a wonderful sandwich to enjoy while taking a break during wood working. I considered a sliding compound miter saw when I updated to a 12" ... however, since I already own a radial arm saw, I opted to save some money and forgo the sliding feature. Since I have both saws built into the same bench, I find I use my miter saw often enough not to regret buying it.
Little late to the game here…but IMO you’re right about the miter saw. I personally have a very nice one (north of the price point you stated), and it still irritates me from time to time. Best thing I did was switch to full kerf blades for the miter saws. Made a world of difference in being able to move quickly while maintaining accuracy.
Pastrami! Great video. Couldn’t agree more with your point about a mitre saw stand with fence. I had my 10” slider on a table, but in my new shop, the first thing I built was a dedicated stand with fences. I use mine a lot, and this works fantastic for me. P.S. (I rarely use my belt sanders for the same reasons you pointed out) 😊
Pastrami.
The tool that surprised me the most was the brad nailer. I’d chalk that up to the type of work you do, but surprised it doesn’t come in handy for jigs and shop projects.
Love the content man!
Thanks, Zack! Yeah for what I build, it doesn’t doesn’t come into play. Once I get into home improvements I’ll use it a ton!
Pin nailer would be useful for his type of work
Pastrami :) I was like you, had a cheap used miter saw for about 5 seconds before I figured out it didn't do anything worth wasting that much space for. Then I found a deal on a nice sliding compound miter saw and it was life-changing. I use the heck out of it and I absolutely love what it does. I don't just use it for rough cuts, I have a sweet Diablo blade on it and use it for everything from melamine to fine trim work.
Air tools can also be a game changer, but only when you have space for a decent compressor. Air nailers, air sanders, so many great tools that are cheap because you're not buying a motor AND tool, but just the tool.
I totally agree about the battery operated sander, actually I'll extend that to say anything that I use for more than 5-10 minutes at a time is frustrating and near-useless as a battery-powered unit.
I also agree with your statement to not buy anything until you actually need it.
Seems like we are both on the same page 😀
I love watching your videos. I build mostly concrete forms and rough framing. “Sheds, houses and decks” Would love to build finish stuff like you. So my list of useless tools is different. My belt sanders and pneumatic nailers get used almost daily. Totally agree on the battery sander’s being almost useless.
OTOH, a belt sander is good for rough shaping of material. I build boats and there LOTS of non-square cuts, so "sneak up" on the line with the jig saw, then use the belt sander to fair the curves. I use mine a LOT (in fact, I've already burned one up).
Pastrami 👍🏼
I totally agree with the belt sander. Nearly F’d up a high end table top trying to save some time. I find the miter saw pretty useful, but then again, I’m using it to breakdown lengths pretty often - and in the process of building a dedicated table because I HATE moving it around. Love your content (across all mediums) keep it coming!
Thanks so much, Michael! I’ve also ruined a table top with a belt sander haha
Yep belt sanders are not for the faint hearted and need a fair amount of experience to know how and when to use a belt sander. I personally own a Festool BS75 belt sander set connected to a Festool shop vac. Powerful with with its attachment are excellent and dust is never a problem. Excellent for solid wood floors and large flattish surfaces. Coupled with a Festool Rotex as a finisher it’s excellent
Totally agree with your opinion in band sanders. Almost never use mine, for all the reasons you described! Random orbital sander is my go-to 90% of the time.
Pastrami, yes get a quality miter saw and the new portable stands have extension roller built in to hold longer wood. Plus portable and fold up really small with the saw on it and can store in a small area in your shop when not in use. Love my dewalt!
Pastrami! I 100% agree with you on the cordless sanders, despite not having bought one lol. Can't say I regret buying many of the tools I've bought thus far, except maybe for the cheap wood chisels I got, or any other cheap hand tool (specifically saws, planes and chisels).
Extra pastrami. As a woodworking newbie, all of your "you don't need this tool" advice is incredibly helpful. Can't thank you enough.
I’m glad to hear it was helpful, Ken!
Just remember that every piece of advise you get is from that person's perspective. For example, I couldn't live without my miter saw but he has a different experience and has learned to work around it. There are also some tools that I needed ONCE and bought them to do the job and now wish I didn't have them but they were a necessity at the time but some of my friends have been grateful that I bit the bullet and they could borrow it. We all end up with drawers of tools that we don't need :)
Pastrami- Thank you for sharing your opinions . I appreciate that you give your reasons why you do or don't need something. Being a retired mechanic I learned early on that going cheap on tools is never a good idea. I think that cheap mitre saw may have jaded you.
A friend of mine once told me "Buy CHEAP, buy TWICE", I totally agree with his comment,
Going cheap on tools may be a good idea when starting up. What breaks first is probably what you use the most so then will be replaced with a high quality tool. No need to go for high quality on tools you rarely use.
Pastrami. I love having my miter saw. I use it it for all kinds of home projects and it really saved my bacon when I built my backyard storage building. BUT, I did get a compatible portable station, which made it easy to move, kept it at the right height and gave me level surface on which to work.
Completely agree! My belt sander gets hardly any use now I have an electric hand planer for taking of large amounts of material. I bought a 10” sliding mitre saw and again I wish I’d seen this video earlier as I hardly ever use it for what I need it for. Much more hassle than it’s worth.
Pastrami! Totally agree with you on all 5 (ESPECIALLY the belt sander) -- but since I make a LOT of cutting boards, my Ridgid spindle/belt sander does get a fair amount of use.
For smaller stuff, that sander would be fantastic!
Pastrami!! I agree that it really depends on what your making and that using what you have until you really know that you need the new tools is a great idea. I think your spot on with the list except the miter saw. I got a really nice compound Delwalt before my table saw and was able to do a lot with it. I find that a better quality tool used is a good option then a lower quality tool new.
Thanks for watching kinu!
Totally agree on the cordless sander, I've got one and need to change the batteries a lot. Would much prefer a corded one. I do use a mitre saw though, it's great for bevelled crosscuts on trims.
pastrami !! I'm so glad you mention the problems with the rigid belt sander / spindle sander. I had been really wanting one thanks for bringing me back to reality
Pastrami! I'm happy that you share what you don't need and why. Personally, I absolutely LOVE my Ryobi random orbital sander. Unfortunately, when I tried to buy a backup/second one, every single one at Home Depot would not run at the same speed as my old one. But I use it on every single project nowadays. (Of course, I still consider myself in the beginner stage even after 2 years of building big [3X8' ] and small [15"x18"] planter boxes and other gardening stuff for my wife.). I also like my Ryobi nailer - it comes in so handy for building trellises. And since I do make a lot of cuts of long wood, the miter saw is a necessity - but I do dread having to build the station for it. I have.a question: Why do you use a jig saw to cut down long pieces of thick wood instead of a circular saw?
Pastrami - one of my favorite sandwiches! Excellent video about pros/cons of each tool.
1) You're right about belt sanders - tons of dust and yes they can easily destroy a project. Ask me how I know.
2) $130 for a battery powered nail gun is cheap. Most are a lot more expensive, which is why I bought a pneumatic one instead. If you don't use a nail gun that much then it's not worth it.
3) I have both a cordless and corded orbital sander. I use the corded one for longer sessions as you mentioned. The trick is getting good sandpaper like 3M's Cubitron line. Makes a HUGE difference. My battery powered sander is great for small jobs or when I need to get into a weird spot.
4) Your observation on miter saws reflects some of my experiences. I have a DeWalt 709 (older model but similar to the current ones) with a dedicated stand that allows for quick storage. They're great for cutting long lumber to length, but after reconditioning my dad's old table saw I find it easier to make cuts there instead, unless the lumber is too long. That Ryobi model you had is pretty much garbage. A jigsaw or a good circular saw would do a better job!
Go pastrami!!! I totally agree with your sandpaper comment. Nothing worse than cheap paper! I’m glad to find another person who has the same experience with a miter saw too 😀
I used to sand a lot, then I purchased a 10” planer. For furniture a planer is a must. Great channel.
Thanks for watching, Tom!
As a gardener, my shitty mitre saw is great for cutting up Hazel for firewood. Since hazel grows straight, it's the perfect size and shape for processing. Most awkward branches can be cut by moving the saw 45 degrees. Hazel can be coppiced / cut to the base, and it regenerates, it's a decent firewood.
There are many similar projects in Woodglut's plans.
I’ll check them out next time I’m getting a root canal 🦷
@@SpencleyDesignCo Awesome plans Jane
@@SpencleyDesignCo Awesome to hear that !
Pastrami: I have a very old miter that has issue with accurate angles. I also don't have a miter station. So I very rarely use it. I use my skill saw with a rail when breaking down lumber. I would like a new miter with a station as I think it would be used more then the one I have now.
I truly think both of us would love a good quality miter saw as long as we had a miter station. Only issue with miter stations is that they take up a lot of space. Maybe I’ll change my mind once I get that new miter saw 🤷♂️😀
@@SpencleyDesignCo space is always a concern for me, 1/3 of a one stall garage.
Oh then you can definitely utilize the space better than a massive miter station!
Pastrami! I love you channel. Very informational for someone looking to get started in a small shop area. Thanks!
Pastrami! Very interesting your perspective on useless tools. I have all the tools you mentioned and use them frequently. But...I do a lot of home repairs, rough framing type work (currently doing a bathroom remodel). Not a lot of fine furniture woodwork. So I get your point. BTW I really enjoy the fact that you're doing this out of a garage in an apartment! The only tool I rarely use is a set of circular saw guides for cutting large sheets of plywood. I recently purchased a track saw so they will be collecting dust forever now.
Thanks for this info. I think the most helpful aspect is your emphasis on project application. We all have different interests and goals so we need different tools. Two things: 1) buying inexpensive tools is generally a recipe for failure 2) I especially related to the sander info, from the problem with belt sanders (gouging and scratching) to the issue of battery power or corded versions. Lastly: I appreciated your willingness to recognize that YOUR preferences are yours. In each case you allowed for possibilities that might not match your own preferences. Big lesson for me: don’t just buy a tool because “everyone” has one in their shop.
Good stuff. I just found you but will subscribe and keep watching!
I couldn’t agree more! Thanks for the support, Bruce!
Pastrami (really a superior deli meat). Nice video! Having a miter saw yesterday helped me pivot to a different and keep working when my table saw died. Not the most precise but still useful.
Not sure how far you schedule out videos, but I’d love to see something similar about what tools you wish you spent more/ less on. There are definitely tools I’m glad I have but realize didn’t need to be as high quality as I assumed and visa-versa. Some guidance on that would probably be helpful (especially compared to all of the “10 essential tools” videos out there)
That is A FANTASTIC idea! I'm putting that on my idea list for video production and you are getting the credit. Thanks Patrick!
@@SpencleyDesignCo Thanks! Keep up the good work. I’m really learning a lot
I appreciate the support! I’ve got A LOT of older videos for you to learn from while you wait for my next one 😀
What about the gabagool?
Pastrami. Great video! I nervously watched and was relieved that I have not purchased any of the top five - except the miter saw which I use all the time. That said, I rarely use a miter saw for woodworking. That's why table saws and routers were invented. I use my miter saw for DYI projects when I need to trim really fast and get back to watching TV. For example, this past weekend I used my miter saw to trim down wall socket covers near the floor molding. I admit using a miter saw to cut the molding and a friend's nail gun to install the molding. But, the wall socket covers no longer fit and needed to be trimmed.
Pastrami, i greatly appreciate you saying "for you" and "for the type of work you do" in your video. I was doing allot of renos, and reframing rooms and found the miter saw indispensable, but yes I did have a proper stand so I could setup measure stops. I wish I had bought a Combination Miter saw as the extra cut width of the radial arm saw would have been very handy. for the wider moldings. good video. I enjoyed it.
That Ryobi airstrike is one of the best tools I've ever bought. BUT...I also do a lot of carpentry along with my woodworking and I've used it to build a buttload of cabinets. I also heard from MANY people that those spindle sanders are a major PITA. - PASTRAMI :)
I like the ryobi nailer better than my ridgid one. That sander is awful though haha
I agree re the Ryobi air strike. Built stairs in solid wood it proved to be indispensable. Also own a Ryobi cordless 30G pin-nailer and love it. No pipes and cords in the way.
Pastrami-
Just found your channel- good job- I had the Ryobi sliding 10 in miter saw, it was great till my gf knocked it off the table. It was never square after that. I sold it and bought the new Rigid sliding miter saw- has the arms instead of sliding. It’s very nice- Ryobi had a stand on sale rn for $50
Thanks for checking out the channel! I actually just posted a review of that saw too
@@SpencleyDesignCo wow you sure did! Haha about to watch it! Thanks for the response
Sure thing! I hope you enjoy that review. I’ve got hundreds of videos for you to catch up on 😀
Pastrami! I'm kinda newbie in woodworking, and I've mostly build classic furniture. I do own router table, bandsaw, drill press, jointer/plainer and a small CNC router, but so far, besides maybe a router table for making moldings, I just ended up using table saw and an array of electric/hand tools, so the others are just collecting dust. I mostly work with a pre finished lumber and laminated pine boards, and use wood dowels and glue, so that's probably one of the reason.
Ive helped frame a few houses and put up a lot of siding and you are spot on about the mitre saw, THAT is what its for. for woodworking in the shop use a skil saw and a table saw and your totally covered.
Disagree inside my shop the mitre saw gets then most use its probably the most versatile saw in the room....Having said that my favorite will always be the table saw.
Pastrami : my biggest regret is a cordless planer, difficult to control, keep square, too vicious! Much prefer a decent sharp hand planer. Great video btw, very surprised about the spindle sander, how do you finish tight curves and radii?
Thanks for checking out the video instead of eating bananas with monkeys 😜. I’ve never tried a cordless planer before, but what you’re saying makes sense! I do use the spindle sander for finishing curves, but I always have to do the final finishing by hand.
Once again. Electric planers are difficult to use in inexperienced hands. I own Borge the Festool electric planers (EHL 65 and 85) and with careful loop proper setup they perform brilliantly. Much faster and mostly smoother then hand planes
Pastrami
I've gone through the same thoughts about miter saws. I have a $200 one for homeowner stuff.
But for woodworking for square crosscutting? use your crosscut sled or miter gauge. The table saw has way better dust collection than ANY miter saw, any day. even a $1,200 festool.
I couldn’t agree more! Plus, the table saw is a lot easier to get good camera shots compared to the miter saw
Pastrami. I own a Bauer 12” miter saw from Harbor freight and I love it. After a couple of very minor adjustments I’m getting perfect miter cuts. I’m also a framer so that’s why I needed the 12” saw. I even bought the Bauer saw stand on sale for $99. Just a suggestion. Great videos. Thanks for the tips!
A lot of DIYers find themselves occasionally framing a room or storage area. A miter saw and nail gun or guns are extremely useful in these cases because the wood you are working with is long. And trimming the rooms -- there just is no substitute for a good miter saw (properly set up) for cutting all of your angles. And of course, the finish nail gun is a huge time saver here. So, as others have said, the tools need to match the job. For furniture, I can see a good rationale for your list. For building structures or adding to them, you wouldn't want to be without nail guns and miter saws. Great video. Keep 'em coming!
In regards to the small pastrami nail gun, and mitre saw, I get that it depends on your style of woodworking. Using nails means extra work for making a nice finish, but it will hold up better if you both nail and glue pieces together. Nice you say the part about the low cost saw when talking about the mitre saw tho. Must admit for most cuts I use a circular/jigsaw instead of mitre saw. But for very precise cuts, then the dewalt mitre saws are pretty damm good.
Pastrami - I do have a miter saw, but I got a stand with it. It’s nice that I can wheel it out and stow away, but it’s a lot of work each time. I quickly grab a battery powered circular more frequently. Great video!!
Thanks for watching!
Pastrami - I’ve used a DEWALT 12” mitre saw for the last 25 years. I use a very high-end crosscut blade, but you MUST check the saw regularly to make sure it’s perfectly square and plumb! I check mine before beginning any new project.
Pastrami - Good video! I'm an amateur woodworker, and I agree with only 2 of these -- The belt sander and the cordless sander. The others you mentioned are used quite often in my shop! I encourage you to give the miter saw a chance, but only if you're going to also build a stand for it and use the appropriate support system for the long cuts! A properly dialed in miter saw is very convenient!
Thanks for the feedback Russ
Pastrami - one Tool i definitly think is worth having for any homeworker is a multitool (the Oscilating ones) esp when working on alot things where there is little room to move tools around in ^^ and regarding Miter saws, they are awesome to use, but as u say, only when u have a workshop where u have a fixed place for it. for mobile work i think its better to just use Jigsaw or smth other. very interesting list. keep up the good work ^^
Pastrami :))
As a carpenter/roofer, I don't do any woodworking, but I always watch channels like yours as entertainment and as a source to expand my knowledge. For our job, I'd say that a gas chainsaw is imperative, then we use our impact drivers the most. Next one is the framing nailer, the drill driver and the router and the angle grinder. I chose carpentry and roofing over joinery because the initial investment you need is significantly lower, when you start your own business after apprenticeship.
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I felt the same way about miter saws also i had the harbor freight central machinery miter saw and hated it. But i did pick up a 15 Amp Corded 12 in. Dual Bevel Sliding Miter Saw and i absolutely loved it. The cuts are nice and straight. It cuts so wide i end up using that more than my table saw. It changed my whole woodworking experience.
I do think part of your point about cheap miter saws is really right, I had a cheap Ryobi one for a while and upgraded to an AEG sliding one which was around $600 aud and the difference is like night and day, it cuts straight and clean each time and adjustments are so much easier and more precise, I definitely should have just saved up and bought the expensive one in the first place as it is one of the tools where you just shouldn't scrimp with, I do feel that a sliding mitre saw is probably one of my more used tools
Pastrami... I bought a miter saw that was bigger than I should have done.
Also built a long table, which I just shortened to make room in the shop. The saw is useful, but only if it's super-well calibrated. I took hours with an engineer scale and feeler gauges to get mine in line. But, as you note, I could do with a skilsaw and a big square, or a jigsaw and a good miter gauge in the table saw. Thx.
Thanks for watching Brian!
Just my opinion, I think cordless palm sanders are really nice. The high school i go to has corded Dewalt ones, they suck are constantly having issues. My grandpa got me a 18v Makita and it is fantastic, I use it so much and love it. Only problem if I am doing a lot of sanding it gets heavier.
Pastrami - I personally use my mitre saw loads, but most of the other tools I would totally agree with apart from my nail gun, that was indispensable when making my workshop and is great for making quick jigs :) Loving the content please keep up the good work :)
20 years ago, I picked up a Harbor Freight sliding miter-box saw to cut baseboards for a remodeling project. That saw cost about $100 and with a manual and the ability to order replacement parts. Like yours, mine wasn't really square, but it was adjustable. After fiddling with it a bit, I was able to get it completely accurate. And I purchased a Ryobi saw stand to make it into a workstation. Since then I have used it to cut everything from dimensional lumber to furniture parts. I haven't even had to replace the motor brushes yet.
Pastrami - I use my miter saw a lot even when not doing crown molding. It helped immensely with a recent furniture project I had as well as bamboo flooring I installed. I simply have it set on a table. I use scrap wood to shim anything up. I would like a dedicated station of sorts that has built in features but I don't have the room at the moment.
Pastrami! I agree with and welcome your guidanceI.
I advocate building up your tool collection one at a time as each new job demands it. (I’m a photographer- the same is true for camera gear). When I relaid a solid wood parquet floor , a belt sander was great for sanding down each piece to match the next. Haven’t used it since but it saved so much time for the project.
Just bought a mitre saw for cutting engineered oak floor boards. It’s a great help - but as you say you need ti set up a work station and indoors dust extraction is essential (as I discovered too late!) Many thanks
Clamps, I have way too many clamps.....🤣
Pastrami:. I have to agree, I have four miter saws, only one on a dedicated table, which is the one I use the most, but almost always for rough lumber cut to length. I find that the table it's mounted to, is used way more often than the saw itself. It's really more of a convenience than a necessity. Keep up the good work!!!
Thanks so much daniel!
Pastrami just wanted to say I love your channel. I’m a handyman and I love my dewalt mitersaw because it’s on a mobile stand and I can use batteries and regular power when I go to jobs. I do a lot of trim jobs so for me it’s a must. I think the tool I use least is my bandsaw although I don’t want to get rid of it. On a rare occasion it comes in handy.
Some people use a table saw for everything. I use my dual bevel miter saw for almost everything. If i had the 4000 dollars for a cabinet table saw then I would have all the fancy jigs and pieces to make it the tool for most of my work. Instead I have a really nice 12 inch Bosch dual bevel sliding miter and I use it more than any other tool in my shop.
Agreed on the miter saw. I sold mine and replaced it with a Japanese pull saw. I had no room for an entire station, and I rarely used it any ways, as I just don't do projects that are too long to just crosscut on my table saw.
pastrami...My sliding miter saw got a workout during home remodleing (crown molding, baseboards, PVC, roof repairs, and more). I still use frequently for quick cuts and when two or more pieces need to be exactly the same length. The only tools I regret buying are the cheap versions of ANYthing.
pastrami...a cordless drill chuck does not hold the bit very tight. it loosens every time you release the trigger.
Pastrami I've just discovered your channel & love it. You don't preach & always say what works for you may not work for me & visa versa. keep up the good work . PS I'm watching you in Australia .
Pastrami, I love watching you work and you are inspiring me to go back into woodworking as a hobby. I’m looking seriously into your help and advice on tools to have, I understand that you use a table saw a lot and I think that the specialised adapters are a superb idea, I’m limited on space though and can only have a shed to build that would be about 12 x 13’ approximately do you think if this would be enough space for a table saw, a work bench, is there anything else you would recommend to have in my floor plan of my shed? Thank you for your time and keep on building, you’re very talented guy indeed. Phil. 🇬🇧
Pastrami!
thanks! i was thinking about buying a miter saw, but i dont have anywhere near enough space to put it, and i actually get a lot out of using my ryoba and kataba saws instead, especially for complicated cuts, the more complicated the greater the feeling of having done it well enough by hand!
I have that exact Ryobi brad nailer, and I've found it indispensable. For remodeling projects it's really handy. For other woodworking projects, I'm more of a casual DIY'er, and I made a decision to go brad nailer instead of investing way more than that amount of money on a heap of clamps. Better or worse...I don't know. A lot of times for outfitting a new shop, you make decisions and roll with them until new needs or projects demand something new.
Pastrami - I have a Rigid miter saw with rigid rolling stand and I can’t imagine projects without it. I use it more for home projects than fine woodworking but it has been indispensable. I will say although the lateral degrees have been rock solid, I do struggle sometimes keeping it square vertically when I need it to be precise. If I could spend money on one really nice tool right now, it would probably be a band saw.
Pastrami - As other have said - your tool set needs to follow your project needs. I have a sliding mitre saw but no table saw, mostly because I like my fingers quite a bit. But also in my case I rarely need to cut large sheets down, so a table saw would be a luxury anyway.
I turned my 4x24 hand-held belt sander into a stationary horizontal sanding station. I built a 90 degree flat table for it and find i use it way more that way.
I've got that same cordless Ryobi nailer and use it on Pastrami. I've also got a Porter Cable air powered one. The air nailer is much nicer for shop use because it fires a nail as soon as I pull the trigger. The Ryobi takes a while to think before it actually shoots a nail. However, it's really handy to not have to drag air hose all around so I use whichever is most appropriate for the task at hand.
I've actually got two (yes, two) 12" compound miter saws. I've used them both extensively and sometimes, I've used them both on the same project. It's nice to have one set to some odd-ball angle that you took a measurement from with an angle gauge, then have the other available for whatever angle the next cut calls for. Granted, a lot of the use for these is on construction projects around the house (building the garage & shed, fitting out the current bathroom addition, etc.), but I've used them a fair bit on woodworking projects, too. I really like the DeWalt 779 sliding compound saw. However, I'd suggest one of the ones with the parallelogram hinge or where the slide projects forward instead of rearward - it allows you to put it closer to the wall.
As others have noted - use the tools you need for your tasks and try not to get too caught up in "shiny new toy" syndrome.
Pastrami it is very true that the tools you use are guided by the work you do. Same goes for any set of tools in any profession, everyone told me I needed pipe wrenches as plumber, I think I used one once in five years, but I was also a med gas and hospital service plumber, so I used a whole different set of heavy tools.
I have a nice 12 inch miter saw and used to use it all the time when I had a cheap table saw. After upgrading the table saw and building some crosscut sleds, the miter saw sits on a shelf. Where it was indispensable is when I was doing molding around the house.
Pastrami! For me, my miter saw is worth every penny because we used it so heavy during our wood working projects. I have the Dewalt 12" sliding double miter attached to the Rigid saw stand you featured. Complete ease of access and able to handle any wood I am currently using for projects. I am also guilty of buying shiny tool that I still have in the box( drum sander, drill press). Really enjoy the content.
Pastrami...
Honestly, most of this was more "I bought the wrong tool for *my* workflow/style of work" than actual bad tools, maybe except for the spindle sander and the cheap mitre saw...
Having previously borrowed a couple of mitre saws, I knew a bit about what I wanted in one, so I went for a blue Bosch (i.e. their "Professional" series) one, including a folding stand which is indispensable for 80% of what I use the saw for, which is mostly construction/molding/flooring etc.
I also have the same Ryobi random orbital sander, and yes, it's heavier and more clumsy than corded ones, but compared to my previous one (think "Horror Fright" price/quality territory) it's pretty good, and the dust collection much better than anticipated. That said, it's not something I'd look forward to using on large areas.
In any case it's always interesting to see other people's take on various tools, so thanks for that 🙂
A belt sander is very useful for me, though I typically use it flipped over and as a grinding surface because my focus is on tiny "hobby" projects cause, like most people, I live in a tiny apartment and can't do larger things. The combo belt/ spindle would be a thing I'm eyeing as well, though yeah, motors are important.
Project size and type are a huge part of dictating tools.
I can't house a planer or jointer. Even the table saw and lathe have to remain in storage. I buy lumber having to make sure it's at least s3s in most cases unless it's a hand carving project and sawing is usually by hand or using a miter box.
Try the Dewalt cordless sander! Great dust collection and plenty of power. But you should probably have 2-3 batteries. I love mine!
Pastrami!!😋
Thanks for the info. Subscribed today, I'll be back. I'm just starting out.
I have a few pieces that my father gave me and I've bought a couple more. I'm seriously considering more time spent woodworking and just trying to get some more ideas/knowledge. I'm a 62 yr old truck driver that wants to get off the road, and looking for some side hacks. Keep up the good work. Thanks!!
Pastrami! A sliding mitre saw from Wickes, was the first power tool I bought. I bought it because I was going to be cutting up old decking and turning it into a storage box. It cost me £120 and I chose it over some other models because it was cheap, but also had the longest cut length I could find (310mm at 90 degrees) and it's also a compound, so it bevels (so I figured it would be useful going forward). It's smashed through everything I've wanted to do and I've used it for lots of stuff since.
I've never built a mitre station as I don't have a shop, so I'm just working outside on the floor. I've since bought a circular saw, for cutting up plywood sheets, but with some clever clamps and scraps, it's easy enough to set up a stop block for the mitre saw, so it makes repeatable cuts, so I always use it for cutting multiple things to length.
I'm sure it's not perfect, but for £120 it was accessible to a beginner and it's been great for me.
Pastrami.. I am a carpenter and I love my 12" Dewalt compound miter saw with bench and just installed 8" crown using it, although I couldn't cut it upright on a 45° I had to lay it flat and cut it at 31.6° miter and 33.9° bevel .. not a problem... I use it for every thing.
Pastrami- I have two things I regret buying. 1. Jet 16-32 drum sander. Can not seem to keep drum to table level. Tried everything- get it level, mount the sandpaper. Very light passes and once again out of level after about 6 passes. 2. Rikon 14” Bandsaw. Fence leveling is horrible - both vertical and horizontal.
I prefer a hand held planner vrs a belt sander.
Brad nailer is nice for small stuff like use your scapes to make small sellable stuff. Glue and Brad to hold and keep rocking.
Chop saw is one of my most used saw. I use a lot of pallet wood and to cut to size is great. I got the metabo 10". Got it on Amazon for $89 on sell. I use the Johnson level mag angel locator 2 button (digital) to fine tune all my saws for the perfect 45/90.
Pastrami- i think tools are specific to each person and greater. I have a circular saw and that works very well for what i need. Table saw to rip pieces and square off would be my next purchase- well after the house 🙂
Maybe instead of buying one- you could look at renting one and save the money. I did this for camping gear and very happy I did!
Pastrami. I have had a Hitachi radial arm saw (Not a drop saw ) with a 7 1/2 inch blade for 30 years. I bought this after a work colleague told me he built the timber frame and trim for a new home for himself. versatile for cross cutting wide timber either square or at an angle, rebates without a router or jigs. I have several nail guns including staple guns, all pneumatic. Renovating home's you can use a small pin t nail to fit architraves, requiring very small filling. Fixing or repairing fences or making timber frames for walls, the only substitute are self drill screws.
Pastrami! I have a miter saw on the rolling stand you showed. It’s not a daily use tool so a dedicated work station isn’t necessary for me, but it’s nice to be able to set up in just a few seconds. It does end up getting moved around from spot to spot to keep getting it out of the way, so it still takes up room folded up, just not nearly as much. (I should add, the saw was a free demo unit so I only have money in the station…)
My Ryobi nail gun is a game changer when renovating and building stuff for my house. Absolute no-brainer
I just subscribed to your channel. I agree with you on buying tools when you need them. I bought a belt sander to refinish my backyard cedar deck. That and sanding interior hard wood flooring is what it's best suited for. I bought a Ryobi miter saw last year to start remodeling our house. I use it for baseboards, door trim, and flooring. If I were to buy a miter saw for woodworking I would buy a Festool. It has zero deflection and I think that is extremely important in woodworking. Thank you for your videos, you're a great help!
Thanks for the support!
I have a saying I coined. "Buy them when you find them, not when you need them". If I did not follow this mantra, I would have bought a band saw I would have had to sell within a few months to buy the one I really needed. I took 2 years to buy a Laguna 14Twelve, caught it on sale and free shipping and I don't think I will ever need to upgrade. the same for my table saw, I used an old Porter Cable until I wlaked into a pawn shop and in the corner was a brand new Ridgid granite top 3512 table saw in the box. I didn't go there for that, but I bought it when I found it and that was almost 10 years ago. Still don't need an upgrade. Be patient.
Gotta love free shipping!
Agree on the belt sander. I call mine "the angry man of the shop"
Pastrami-for the nail gun I like what Brad nails do for a temporary hold, also very easy to cover blemishes.
For the miter saw, I really like Fischer’s miter saw station. Very functional, your gonna save a lot more time over using a jig saw, and you’ll get straighter cuts, if your saw is the right one like you said. Highly recommend Bosch miter saw.
Pastrami. I find your comments about the Brad nailer interesting. I used to clamp everything or use screws. Screws are a lot of work and difficult to hide and I always found clamping to be a mixed bag. I don't have a lot of clamps to do large pieces and I was finding my pieces tended to shift a little during drying due to the lubricating effect of the wet glue. I'd go out the next morning and my joint was permanently glued 1/16" crooked etc. Brad nails changed my life. You get the clamping force plus alignment in 1/4 second and so easy to conceal. That being said, I originally bought it for a ton of trim/finishing work I was doing. Using it for wood projects was an afterthought.
I also love my dual bevel miter saw. But I only really pull it out on large projects like building a deck or framing work. Occasionally trim work if I want my saw right in the work area. Otherwise I have a radial arm saw that I use for 99% of my small projects.
On rye....
I have most of the tools mentioned. I'm not a serious woodworker. "Wasted" is subjective. I use them a handful of times a year. I have middle-of-the-road stuff. You can tune and adjust most of them to fit my needs. Tolerances aren't a deal breaker for what I'm working on.
One (several) thing I regret buying is storage stuff/systems that you think will organize and declutter your shop when it (they) just add to the clutter.
I love having a cordless random orbital sander….as a matter of fact I use the two sanders you showed in your video. For 39.99 having that ryobi sander is great if I want to sand outside my shop with no dust collection on a nice day, also easy to chuck up into a vice for an impromptu disc sander 😂 but yes I use the makita mostly just how you described but having that portability for quick sanding is nice for the low price, and I honestly think it comes close to corded power with good paper attached.
Pastrami My very first job out of high school in early 1960's was as a floor sander in New Castle Pa. My boss was not only a an employer but a great teacher and work ethicist/philosopher. He told me that he would teach me to be a master , with the condition that if I ever left his employment, to please never work within a 100 mile radius of him. I have never been afraid of any kind of sanding. Crafts trades are sometimes refereed to as being in the builders trade. Building is the last and pretty part, removal of materials is the main and dirty but fun part part. If a tool doesn't do what you need that tool to do. than retool the tool. Never force tools to do more than they are designed to do, like you would never use a good wood chisel as a screw driver or pry bar.
By the way, the Ryobi cheap miter saw, is my favorite saw for cutting aluminum but yes it is a poor choice if you are doing fine wood work. The fence distorts within a few hours of heavy use.
I'm a fulltime cabinet maker who has been trying to raise my game over the past five years. The best money that I've spent over the past year is the 3M extract sander. It works twice as fast as my Makita and the paper lasts 4x longer (I'm saving lots of cash on sandpaper). Best money that I've spent in years. Thanks for your channel and advice!
Pastrami- I had to get a belt sander for getting varnish and other grime off of pine furniture from 1996! The varnish was gumming up the sanding pad.
The one tool for me is the Krieg pocket hole jig. I tend not get my pockets hole to either grab or they go through my other piece. I’ve checked at nausea the correct setting to screw size but when I screw it in it sucks.
Pastrami - You are right about one thing, buy the tools you need not what people tell you you need. When I down sized my shop, I focused on what I did the most. Cabinetry. So I don't have a table saw, a miter saw, a big drill press, fancy dust collection, or an air compressor anymore. I do have a Festool TS55 & and MFT/3 table, A small cross cut box for my Ryobi 6.5" saw, this allows me to cut trim when needed, plus I use that Ryobi 18gag battery nailer for attaching trim, and for building shop jigs. Wonderful little gun BTW. I mounted a 6" sanding disk to my small lathe which has rounded down a lot of corners. The biggest investment I've made is in buying routers, mostly cheep ones that I can dedicate to a certain function. One is for round overs, another is for doing shelf holes and grooves in the back of a cabinet, and another for doing loose tenon Domino type joints. For just about all the other power tools I use Ryobi battery tools except for my Bosh 12v drill which I'll keep forever, and my PC 5" random orbital sander.
Pastrami - I had to smile as I watched your video as I had bought 4 out of the 5 you mentioned (some different brands though) I bought the Ryobi belt sander but find I don't use it that often because it's heavy and hard work, I much prefer my random orbital sander. I bought the cordless nail gun and I love it, it comes in very handy for making jigs and giving a bit of holding power while glue dries etc. (I need more clamps!) I also have a spindle sander that I'm not overly impressed with , I do use it just not as often as I thought I would. The tool I regret buying is a jointer/planner, it is so loud and it makes way too much mess, for that reason I hardly ever use it.
I have that Ridgid tablesaw model you have in your shop. Bought mine about 10 years ago when they first started selling them with riving knives. It was a really nice tool - except for the power switch. The switch was horrible. It was literally the opposite of a safety switch. It was really easy to bump it and turn the saw on accidentally. It happened so much that I just expected it and took the danger into account. Then it failed, and I replaced it with a proper safety switch. It is no longer soft-start but is much safer.