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I have a seamaster non chronograph version. Would love to add in an omega speed master. I usually like to buy watches from different brands and do not repeat brands but with Omega both would look great side by side
I don't know why the Speedmaster was not the comparison watch. There is zero need for chronograph complications on a dive watch... just two more gaskets to fail.
Hoping and looking forward to when Omega makes this Chronograph in the previous 41.5 dimension. Along with these new pivoting end links, would LOVE to see Omega pull off a thickness of under 15mm in a new smaller version (frankly, under 14mm and it would sell very strong). Not certain if they shot themselves in the foot with this new movement and we are all stuck with the daunting task of wearing this as a daily with the over 17mm thickness(not for me). I believe the previous 41.5 Chrono was 16.8mm thick. Again, that is simply too thick for 98% of us. Oh well, we'll have to wait and see. There's always the 3 hander with a much more reasonable size/proportion. With a new 41.5 version, I would like to see this silver dial color mated with a black ceramic bezel and black sunken chrono dials.
First description says everything. It’s too big. It’s 17mm thick? It looks brilliant, but I could never wear it. Omega PO39 is one of the few they have, but I believe that too is thicker than a Big Mac.
If you want a thin Omega chrono you get a Speedy. The PO39(.5) is chunky but not absurdly so - still a full centimetre thinner than a Sea Dweller, for example.
Well, it's first and foremost a diver, so that's fine in my opinion. But it is true, the 9900 is not a slim movement itself, at 7.6mm, so there are no thin watches with this movement.
@@nilsklein6098 the omega divers have gotten too big. Rolex has never changed which is good and bad, but the rolex game and pricing shows its aiming for a Hermes style luxury item flex (veblen good), not focusing in watch making. Besides, the square lugs have put me off the sub for 10 years, just tried on the new 41mm and it seems so plain and did nothing for me. This has introduced me to Lange, leaps ahead. I will a wait for the right GS and GO as well. Until then I have my PO and 2 aqua terras (£6k total) that have prevented me from buying anything else for a decade. Can't find anything that I would enjoy past the honeymoon phase.
I've seen this exact same model in real life (someone I know owns one) and I think it's part of the zoomed in view. In real life it seems to have a better balance of fine and thick details and lines so that it doesn't look too busy when looking at it from any 'realistic' distance. Also the interesting case shape sells the whole thing. In the end it's always a matter of taste though.
@@stritlit the speedy is fine but too simple and not water resistant enough. I won't wash my hands while wearing the speedy. Daytona on the other hand can be wore if you even go for a swim. Omega doesnt have the heritage of Rolex but I'd still own a speedy along with a daytona
But Omega uses that gimmick as a selling point to give the watch that curiosity factor How many friends you know have a helium escape valve on their watch? It gives it the Mysterious special factor that rich people buy into
@@2011blueman yea if your a fool who doesn't care about quality. It's all on the stats sheet read it and weap yiu can't fake passion. It's as transparent as the truth.
Unfortunately I have to agree with you. And it is wierd that they didn't match it up with the Speedmaster. if I could see the Omega in the sort of "grey scale" tones of the recent Seemaster that comes on a factory NATO. Who knows, might look a bit better
Being an owner of both, there is no question about which watch I adore and cherish most. I'll give you a clue, the Rolex(es) have sat in their box in the safe for 20 plus years, bar perhaps
@@Bu-22 I think HODINKEE over-covers Rolex. With all the great brands and watches out there, you will see more Rolex content on their site than any other brand.
I worked with a 25 year old guy whose parents had bought him a nice Seiko solar chronograph for his 21st. When I asked him if he ever used the chronograph he gave me a blank look. I had to show him that it existed, and how to use it. So your point about the general public only buying chronographs because of the look of the dial is fairly spot on. Many don't care about the functionality and engineering, and some don't even know that you can have a stopwatch that's not digital.
I know what the chronograph is but I never used mine on watches that had it either. Same with the dive bezels on dive watches. Like pretty much everyone I bought it because it looks good. I got to thinking if I don't use the feature on a watch then I don't want it on the watch. I still like a watch to be waterproof to at least 100m but I don't need a dive bezel or a chronograph I'll never use. Just the standard 3 hands and maybe a date.
@@Kr0nicridah Sure. Start at the 15 second mark of the video and look at the uneven paint application on the 60 numeral of the subdial, there’s even what seems to be paint specks on the register itself. Then keep looking as the video moves on to the hand on the minute subdial, see the pitting and uneven paint? True, these are small flaws, but a Daytona is expensive at retail, and eye-wateringly expensive if you pay the massive premium over retail for a second hand piece, so it wouldn’t be unreasonable to expect a better level of finishing for your money. In fairness, Rolex aren’t the only offenders.
I love Omega. Have two: Speedmaster Pro and a vintage Constellation "pie pan" dial. But I loathe the wave dial. It's not visually arresting; it's busy and it compounds the cluttered look of this technically-superior, but aesthetically-challenged watch. I'd love to see Omega ditch the wave design altogether, and give the world a proper diver that is aesthetically on par with the magnificent, iconic, timeless Speedmaster Professional.
@@glenbuyer8738 I'm not sure where you think I misspoke. I indicated I hate the wave dial (which is on the Seamaster and the featured Omega for this video), and I hoped Omega would dump the wave dial and replace it with a new dial that was a great as the Speedmaster's dial.
That never happened because you don't have the money for a Cosmograph and the very idea that you would be bothered in the slightest by other people asking about your watch authenticity is telling that you won't pass a 5 minute conversation with an AD.
The Seamaster chrono is the watch of my dreams since i saw James Bond "Casino Royal" in 2006, especially the train scene with Eva Green when she asked : "Rolex ?" and James answered : "Omega" 😁
The key is to think what you want , not wonder what everyone else will think......i repeated to hear it over and over again...... the best words i had ever heard on ur channel.....u got my respect,my like,my subscription and definitely definitely my interest
It's a watch for you. If I buy a Daytona then I won't care what other people talk about me and my watch. I brought if for myself and not for show off. Also your clothes and car should go with the watch, If you drive a accord and wear a Rolex then the watch is probably fake.
As an omega owner , and not at all a rolex fanboy, I have to say Yes, this Rolex IS BETTER than the omega. A watchmaker’s prowess lies in the ability to engineer all the components in as compact a package as possible. I’m not impressed with all of omega’s blows and whistles if it is fitted in hockey puck on the wrist. Omega loses big time here on that premise alone. Omega needs to get back to the drawing board and start engineering and designing compact movements in compact wearable cases, and they have the ability to do so.
I bought this Omega and I freaking love this thing. Yes, its big, but I have a 7.5" wrist, so it fits well. It also wears smaller than you might think. I don't have a Rolex, but the GMT Master II that I like just changed the rotor to ceramic bearings and it sounds like a cheap Myota movement..really disappointing. I'd also rather have a Zenith El Primero over an El Primero Daytona...because Zenith made the movement..and happened to save Rolex by doing so! Now...the Rolex Platinum Daytona with the blue dial and brown bezel (don'tneed the diamond hour markers)....ok, that is a proper grail watch for me that I will have one day.
I always thought Omega was for people who wanted to own a nice watch. Rolex was for people that want others to know they have a nice watch. My introduction to luxury watches was from one of my first bosses, who when asked, showed me his custom 14k Deville, which he had received from retiring from a corporate restaurant chain. It pressed the Omega brand into my brain, for better or worse.
If by "age", you mean patina, then the Omega won't get it. It uses a ceramic dial which prevents a patina from developing. So in 20 years time, it'll still look new.
But the Speedmaster (profesional) movement is not really that impressive... and I am an omega fanboy myself. Any other co-axial speedmaster would win all day long imo
Based upon what exactly? The Speedmaster Professional is an iconic watch with a far inferior movement, unless you're talking about the caliber 321, than the Cosmograph Daytona. Your comment is based on pure subjective opinion. You are entitled to like the Omega over the Rolex, but not to assert quality of the former over the latter.
Omega destroyed their image for me with all the Limited Edition after Limited Edition after Limited Edition thing. Thats what i really hate about them. Thats why daytona wins for me
so frustrating as an omega fan boy that their design team can't get out of their thick skulls that hefty watches and helium escape valves are desirable by the general public...
Nah disagree 40mm is too small for a diver, the 42mm SMP is a pretty perfect size but the black ceramic 43.5 is also nice. I didn’t like the helium valve before I wore a seamaster but I’ve grown to like it, it doesn’t affect the way it wears at all
Which one would you choose? Seamaster chrono or speedmaster professional? I wanted a Daytona but I have been noticing that Daytonas aren’t as good as omega chronos.
I ordered the yellow gold version of the 300M Chronograph the day it was announced and waited 9 months to receive it, but regretted it almost immediately. The regular 300M is very comfortable but this was just too thick and top heavy. I've got a broad wrist and can wear 45mm Radiomirs fine, but this one felt just too thick and top heavy so I sold it and now I'm getting a Streamliner Chronograph. Still, the finishing was perfect and it's pretty much the only new watch I never found a single defect with, plus the accuracy was better than one second a day. But anyone considering this really needs to try one on first.
Great Video. It explains pretty much why I bought a Speedmaster instead of a Rolex (besides the price and availability). I would love to see a video about the Speedmaster Moonphase with the 9904 movement, I just bought. Beautiful watch.
Awesome review. Well spoken, clean clear and crisp. I came to the revelation almost a year ago before finding your videos, I started looking at Zenith and realizing the true value of a Zenith. Just 2 weeks ago I realized the Omegas provide exceptional value as they have started having in house movements. Anyway thanks for your well made views. And would you be kind to review the Aqua Terra Chronograph GMT 231.10.43.52.03.001 vs Daytona
If they can slim down the seamaster series they'd really have something on their hands. They need to look into tapering the bracelet as well as it's fairly thick on the wrist
Thank you for this great video. Even I am an omega owner, I still could not understand the purpose of some omega watches such as this one . Why omega produce this watch even they have speed master. I think it creates confusion for us. What is the real purpose of this watch. If you think that this is full allround watch, i kindly remind you that you had forgotten to add GMT function. Hahaha... Another example is current Railmaster. Aquaterra has all specifications of Railmaster. If I buy a Railmaster, what do I want to say to myself? What should be the main reason to buy a Railmaster ? Beside this Omega always compares itself with Rolex. As you mentioned that Rolex is benchmark. But why? Almost every watch of Omega have 15000 gauss magnetic resistance, how Rolex milgauss could be a benchmark ? Therefore marketing strategies and the target customer profile is pretty important. Kind Regards Levent
@@arbiterofreason2068 Well, try to make a bath in the sea (not speaking of diving...) with a Speedy and a Seamaster and you'll discover the difference ;)
It's unfortunate how these two watches are even compared side to side. The Omega Seamaster chronograph is the obvious technical winner, but the Rolex Daytona wins with its status quo... Just like other things in life. It simply sucks... but we have to live with it. Great video as usual.
is it not redundant or confusing to have 2 seconds hands showing 2 different seconds positions? In Breitling, the big seconds hand does not move in normal position.
For me the size was a deal breaker. Seamaster fit decently only on a rubber strap, bracelet - no. But you don’t want a watch you can wear only with one type of strap :/
Whatever people think of Rolex, it was the brand that got me interested in watches. At 21 i bought an old manual winding precision Rolex, all broken but i was, and still am, a proud owner of this watch. In the years ahead my collection grew and grew, some Omega’s, Panerai and Gerard Perregaux. This little Rolex precision, it runs now, gave me a love for life. A love for watches and for the people who make them.
Just remember that Rolex was the first wrist watch to be SCOC certified Patented the first waterproof watch. First self winding watch with a date feature First watch to break the sound barrier First dive watch Rated to the depth of 100M First watch to the Mariana Trench And the Beat goes on.
@@Tyde_Tv -First certified because it was the first that bothered. Still a pocket watch world at that point mostly. -First watch to ONLY have a date feature, however monumentally more complicated perpetual calendars existed with date. -They had to pay for the waterproof patent for their watch from the actual designers. -Mariana trench was a pointless publicity stunt. NASA actually had a need for a timepiece for its extreme environments. -The 100m is very useful and Chuck Yeager was a badass. Rolex is great but the fanboy shit is weird
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Even if I had all the money in the world, I would never buy a Rolex. It's a personal preference thing, nothing more. I have 2 Omegas and looking forward to adding Jaeger Le-Coultre and Breguet to my collection to pass on to my kids.
Great video. I will take the Seamaster Chronograph any day over the Rolex. I am glad this one is a 44 mm. I love big watches. This piece really is like wearing a fancy piece of furniture for the wrist
@@idontknow9862 No, therefore my question to you. As I've said, I find other brands much more appealing. So please explain to me, why you feel that Rolex is so special.
@@idontknow9862 you will understand the ego stroke? Some peiple want the nicest watch to them not the pick of those that have a particular name. I prefer the early 2000's omega, some of the Rolexs are nice but they carry a douchy rep and are clearly overpriced for a nice case. Lange preowned or even a VC overseas at Lolex prices
The point is that everyone wants Rolex. That the reason for a high price. Omega is trying to rise making great watch, technically better than Rolex and maybe even better looking, and sell those better watch for a lower price. It is pure marketing, supply and demand. And please do not forget that for a Patek Philippe chrono you need to pay more than 70k euro and those are all wort. I own both Rolex (Submariner) and Omega (Planet Ocean 600) and thr Planet Ocean is my favourite watch I wear everyday wherever I may go, even at a beach. But when I wear a suit I prefer Rolex, just because it is like a piece of a uniform, something that is aspected to be seen at the wrist kf somone wearing a suit. That's all.
@@nomansland120 barely anyone who wears divers actually dive. That is an irrelevant point. Remember we are talking about mechanical luxury watches here, it's a hobby. Go buy a Casio or use your smart phone if you actually care about technical details.
@@kronikinsomniak That's not the point. My point is that if someone wears a "dive watch" with a "suit" he clearly isn't capable of making logical decisions, hence I wouldn't take his advice. It's the equivalent of wearing a dress-watch when you go diving. Sure you could, but you really shouldn't.
I'm old enough to remember when Rolex was just a good tool watch and I am firmly in the belief that they are still a good tool watch and not the high horology brand that they are now trying to market themselves as. They talk about having in house movements but their movements are still manufactured by the same company that always supplied their movements i.e. Egler all Rolex did was buy the company rather than just putting the Rolex name on the Egler company building in their brochures and it's not the case that I am down on Rolex I own a few but I refuse to buy now for the simple reason that they are price gouging and the false scarcity that they use now as a marketing ploy I still remember the days that I could negotiate a good discount for a new Rolex and I even remember in the 1970's when I was trying to buy a gold datejust for my father and when I was hesitating the AD offered to sweeten the deal by throwing in a Daytona for free but that was in the days that nobody was buying, everyone that wanted a chronograph wanted an Omega. Back to the point their watches are no better built, except for the technology, than they always were. They are still just a good tool watch maker and nothing else.
I have 2 gold seamasters. An automatic cosmic 2000 date and a torneau quarts on a weird vintage gold bracelet. It's called something like reptile jubilee. Both all gold. I wish the automatic had an exhibition back. What's the history of seamaster?
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Reason to buy Omega instead of Rolex: No one ever asked me if my seamaster was fake
Fully agree, me neither! :)
Haha, good point. Çok haklısınız.
Sounds like a reason to buy a fake seamaster then..
But sure asked "Is it Rolex?"
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Well, if the production assistant makes sure his steak isn't cold, there won't be a problem
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Try to sell them a watch and you will change your opinion. They are vampires mate!
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Top Gear isn’t what it used to be.
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Both excellent watches but the only chronograph I need in my collection is my Speedmaster Professional 😉
I have a seamaster non chronograph version. Would love to add in an omega speed master. I usually like to buy watches from different brands and do not repeat brands but with Omega both would look great side by side
Navitimer, El Primero?
Totally agree with this.
I don't know why the Speedmaster was not the comparison watch. There is zero need for chronograph complications on a dive watch... just two more gaskets to fail.
That's coz you can't get a daytona at retail price 😅
Side by side, I’ll take the Omega any day.
09:15 That's close to illegal! Holy cow! What a shot!
Absolutely
I know!
You mean 9:20 i think this is wat God has on his wrist. Omega= Eternal
Hoping and looking forward to when Omega makes this Chronograph in the previous 41.5 dimension. Along with these new pivoting end links, would LOVE to see Omega pull off a thickness of under 15mm in a new smaller version (frankly, under 14mm and it would sell very strong). Not certain if they shot themselves in the foot with this new movement and we are all stuck with the daunting task of wearing this as a daily with the over 17mm thickness(not for me). I believe the previous 41.5 Chrono was 16.8mm thick. Again, that is simply too thick for 98% of us. Oh well, we'll have to wait and see. There's always the 3 hander with a much more reasonable size/proportion. With a new 41.5 version, I would like to see this silver dial color mated with a black ceramic bezel and black sunken chrono dials.
First description says everything. It’s too big. It’s 17mm thick? It looks brilliant, but I could never wear it. Omega PO39 is one of the few they have, but I believe that too is thicker than a Big Mac.
If you want a thin Omega chrono you get a Speedy. The PO39(.5) is chunky but not absurdly so - still a full centimetre thinner than a Sea Dweller, for example.
Yeah, prefer the 2500 PO's for this reason. They can be had withing £3k
Well, it's first and foremost a diver, so that's fine in my opinion. But it is true, the 9900 is not a slim movement itself, at 7.6mm, so there are no thin watches with this movement.
This is a main reason why a Rolex is more beautiful. The Omega is a clunker.
@@nilsklein6098 the omega divers have gotten too big. Rolex has never changed which is good and bad, but the rolex game and pricing shows its aiming for a Hermes style luxury item flex (veblen good), not focusing in watch making.
Besides, the square lugs have put me off the sub for 10 years, just tried on the new 41mm and it seems so plain and did nothing for me.
This has introduced me to Lange, leaps ahead. I will a
wait for the right GS and GO as well.
Until then I have my PO and 2 aqua terras (£6k total) that have prevented me from buying anything else for a decade. Can't find anything that I would enjoy past the honeymoon phase.
For me, the Rolex is the more elegant, aside from the "Daytona" in red. The Omega is too "busy" - too "bling". The Rolex's price is ugly though.
I've seen this exact same model in real life (someone I know owns one) and I think it's part of the zoomed in view. In real life it seems to have a better balance of fine and thick details and lines so that it doesn't look too busy when looking at it from any 'realistic' distance. Also the interesting case shape sells the whole thing.
In the end it's always a matter of taste though.
@@ivanlagrossemoule I can completely understand that Ivan, thank you.
This Omega is ugly, though
Rollie is like buying the same house in a better location. More expensive but a much better investment.
The Omega's finition is superb - but its design is pretty ugly. Too big, ugly HE valve, and, and.... UGLY HANDS §§§§
I can't ignore the fact that Daytona is far better look wise and looks does matter. Atleast this omega is no comparison.
True! This Omega is shite. The Speedy would smoke the Daytona though IMO!
It’s like that hot chick you know that’s not right for you.
@@stritlit the speedy is fine but too simple and not water resistant enough. I won't wash my hands while wearing the speedy. Daytona on the other hand can be wore if you even go for a swim. Omega doesnt have the heritage of Rolex but I'd still own a speedy along with a daytona
@@shubhankarsse Omega doesn't have the heritage like Rolex???
@@shubhankarsse Imagine a ceramic, waterproof Speedmaster. That would be something!
The omega looks really great in person and on rubber strap with the black dial. Saw it on a friend's wrist. Great looking watch!
That omega would be really nice without the stupid helium escape valve. At only 300m wr is a gimmick
Tbh, I would pay money to NOT have the helium escape valve.
Like really, Four crowns on a watch?
But Omega uses that gimmick as a selling point to give the watch that curiosity factor
How many friends you know have a helium escape valve on their watch?
It gives it the Mysterious special factor that rich people buy into
And also with different hands. And a smaller size.
Exactly... That silly knob sticks out like a belly button gone wrong!
Just go 300m and more below the water then use the valve so you know its not just any gimmick little buddy.
Loving the production quality of the light transitions to low light to show off the lume. Thank you for the dry humour to round out 2020.
"The key is think about what you want, not wonder what everyone else thinks." 🔑🥲
The funny thing about that is that if you didn't care about what everyone else thinks you wouldn't be buying any of these.
@@2011blueman I would buy a Rolex if everyone hated Rolex, I like their design and history.
So is that what you think when you see someone who wears Rolex? They must have bought it to impress others?
@@2011blueman I buy watches for me, not for others, in fact I prefer if people at work will not see my watches.
@@2011blueman yea if your a fool who doesn't care about quality. It's all on the stats sheet read it and weap yiu can't fake passion. It's as transparent as the truth.
Omega needs to make that Seamaster Chronograph in 40mm case size and to do a panda dial version in my opinion. That thing is a monster size-wise.
And a monstrosity to behold.
If Omega were to cut down that case size to 41mm or lower, I'd jump on that purchase immediately.
@@poulwinther i think it is beautiful
Totally agree. Seamaster chronograph, panda dial. Waaooo. That will sell like hot cakes.
quite heavy as well... but jesus does this watch get compliments.
This has to be the most definitive watch channel on TH-cam. Always beautifully done
I picked up my Omega Seamaster 300 Professional Chronograph recently and just LOVE it!
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The dial of the Omega is somehow overdesigned..
The elaborate word for ugly
It's just that the Daytona has a more classic timeless look, while the Omega looks more "cartoonish", not timeless. Understated. Classic.
I get what you mean , the speedmaster would probably have been a better comparison
@@wpi6705 Yup
Unfortunately I have to agree with you. And it is wierd that they didn't match it up with the Speedmaster. if I could see the Omega in the sort of "grey scale" tones of the recent Seemaster that comes on a factory NATO. Who knows, might look a bit better
Big love to your channel from Ecuador! Just bought a Seamaster after your last video on it.
Your videos are top notch, sir! Superb photography, most informative narrative... keep up the excellent work!
Being an owner of both, there is no question about which watch I adore and cherish most. I'll give you a clue, the Rolex(es) have sat in their box in the safe for 20 plus years, bar perhaps
"I get asked a lot why I talk about rolex so much and I'll tell you..." Ad revenue.
Right. Ten of the last twenty-four videos feature Rolex or Tudor. I’m beginning to think the site is now being run by HODINKEE.
@@Bu-22 I think HODINKEE over-covers Rolex. With all the great brands and watches out there, you will see more Rolex content on their site than any other brand.
I worked with a 25 year old guy whose parents had bought him a nice Seiko solar chronograph for his 21st. When I asked him if he ever used the chronograph he gave me a blank look. I had to show him that it existed, and how to use it.
So your point about the general public only buying chronographs because of the look of the dial is fairly spot on. Many don't care about the functionality and engineering, and some don't even know that you can have a stopwatch that's not digital.
I know what the chronograph is but I never used mine on watches that had it either. Same with the dive bezels on dive watches. Like pretty much everyone I bought it because it looks good. I got to thinking if I don't use the feature on a watch then I don't want it on the watch. I still like a watch to be waterproof to at least 100m but I don't need a dive bezel or a chronograph I'll never use. Just the standard 3 hands and maybe a date.
Some of the finishing on that Daytona subdial looked pretty rough.
Indeed, even more rough when considering the inflated price tag.
I’m new to luxury watches. Do you mind pointing out the flaws?
@@Kr0nicridah Sure. Start at the 15 second mark of the video and look at the uneven paint application on the 60 numeral of the subdial, there’s even what seems to be paint specks on the register itself. Then keep looking as the video moves on to the hand on the minute subdial, see the pitting and uneven paint? True, these are small flaws, but a Daytona is expensive at retail, and eye-wateringly expensive if you pay the massive premium over retail for a second hand piece, so it wouldn’t be unreasonable to expect a better level of finishing for your money. In fairness, Rolex aren’t the only offenders.
Not some, it s everywhere.
0:23 that finish on the chronograph minute hand is so bad. Especially when compared to Omega's 9:43
I thought for a second if the Daytona was a fake and he was trying to fool us or something LOL
Good pickup.. Omega's quality is so solid for the price. I just hate the design :/
I love Omega. Have two: Speedmaster Pro and a vintage Constellation "pie pan" dial. But I loathe the wave dial. It's not visually arresting; it's busy and it compounds the cluttered look of this technically-superior, but aesthetically-challenged watch. I'd love to see Omega ditch the wave design altogether, and give the world a proper diver that is aesthetically on par with the magnificent, iconic, timeless Speedmaster Professional.
Do you mean seamaster cause I don’t think speedmaster features a wave dial. There are seamaster references without the wave as well
Omegas are shitters!!!!
@@glenbuyer8738 I'm not sure where you think I misspoke. I indicated I hate the wave dial (which is on the Seamaster and the featured Omega for this video), and I hoped Omega would dump the wave dial and replace it with a new dial that was a great as the Speedmaster's dial.
"technically-superior but aesthetically challenged".. so true and pretty much sums up almost every Rolex vs. X comparison, especially with Omega
@@shakraljdopobede6442 Hello Archie Luxury!
Yeah, i opted to buy an Omega rather than Rolex. I don't want to be asked if the Rolex ia for real or not.
I'll take shit that never happened for 500, please Alex.
You were not offered to buy a Rolex.
That never happened because you don't have the money for a Cosmograph and the very idea that you would be bothered in the slightest by other people asking about your watch authenticity is telling that you won't pass a 5 minute conversation with an AD.
Hahaha
Seriously, there are far better watches out there that more worthy of money and will get better appreciation from those in the know.
Literally watching this right after being recommended the "Why you should buy Omega Professional over a Rolex" video. The horology gods have spoken.
Or our Google overlords' algorithm is just that good haha.
The Seamaster chrono is the watch of my dreams since i saw James Bond "Casino Royal" in 2006, especially the train scene with Eva Green when she asked : "Rolex ?" and James answered : "Omega" 😁
Really appreciated the video technical know-how required to execute that transition lume shot at 7:24. It didn't go unnoticed.
Superb, as always.
The key is to think what you want , not wonder what everyone else will think......i repeated to hear it over and over again...... the best words i had ever heard on ur channel.....u got my respect,my like,my subscription and definitely definitely my interest
The JLC Master Compressor is a more interesting watch.
Zenith Defy El Primero and JLC Amvox 2 are both wayyy cooler chronograph watches for Daytona money.
Interesting but hideous
@@EscapePlan97 It’s a taste acquired.
@@ElliotDrinksWater , both too busy for me, not elegant enough. Anyway, just opinions; we all have different taste.
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“About as likely as 2020 apologising for what it’s done”-that’s the best line I’ve heard in ages! 😂😂😂👌
Your content production is amazing. I forget I came here for the watch and instead am amazed by how you present the video.
I can't even begin to imagine how Rolex owners keep up with the same mind-numbing question of if it is fake. Also the hype makes it a rip off.
I had this experience ‘what watch is that ? A JLC? Rolex is better’ ahahah noobs
It's a watch for you. If I buy a Daytona then I won't care what other people talk about me and my watch. I brought if for myself and not for show off. Also your clothes and car should go with the watch, If you drive a accord and wear a Rolex then the watch is probably fake.
@@albertoroveda5135 yeah yeah you have casio so stop lying kid
As mind numbing as always being asked if your Ferrari is a replica 🤬
@@shubhankarsse that‘s why most influencers are leasing sports cars and are wearing a fake rolex?! Check „Munich wristbusters“!
As an omega owner , and not at all a rolex fanboy, I have to say Yes, this Rolex IS BETTER than the omega.
A watchmaker’s prowess lies in the ability to engineer all the components in as compact a package as possible.
I’m not impressed with all of omega’s blows and whistles if it is fitted in hockey puck on the wrist. Omega loses big time here on that premise alone.
Omega needs to get back to the drawing board and start engineering and designing compact movements in compact wearable cases, and they have the ability to do so.
3:49 Stick the word watch at the from and now you’ve just made it 10 times worse 😂
You’re the best!
excellent review!
I think there may be more than one reason.
I bought this Omega and I freaking love this thing. Yes, its big, but I have a 7.5" wrist, so it fits well. It also wears smaller than you might think. I don't have a Rolex, but the GMT Master II that I like just changed the rotor to ceramic bearings and it sounds like a cheap Myota movement..really disappointing.
I'd also rather have a Zenith El Primero over an El Primero Daytona...because Zenith made the movement..and happened to save Rolex by doing so!
Now...the Rolex Platinum Daytona with the blue dial and brown bezel (don'tneed the diamond hour markers)....ok, that is a proper grail watch for me that I will have one day.
I see a lot of imperfections in that Daytona... Oo.
I always thought Omega was for people who wanted to own a nice watch. Rolex was for people that want others to know they have a nice watch. My introduction to luxury watches was from one of my first bosses, who when asked, showed me his custom 14k Deville, which he had received from retiring from a corporate restaurant chain. It pressed the Omega brand into my brain, for better or worse.
That particular Omega will age horribly.
Like a perm. And an elderly blue perm at that.
As a matter of fact is already dated
I thought this Omega came out 2 years ago...
If by "age", you mean patina, then the Omega won't get it. It uses a ceramic dial which prevents a patina from developing. So in 20 years time, it'll still look new.
Target segment simply for oldies. Dont get me wrong i like omega and hate at the same time.
In this case rolex wins (albeit I wouldn’t spend my money on a daytona)...in a truer comparison of daytona and speedmaster, omega wins all day long.
But the Speedmaster (profesional) movement is not really that impressive... and I am an omega fanboy myself. Any other co-axial speedmaster would win all day long imo
@@serphystus You'll be happy for the new 3861 then
Daytona owner: *Yawn!*
Based upon what exactly? The Speedmaster Professional is an iconic watch with a far inferior movement, unless you're talking about the caliber 321, than the Cosmograph Daytona. Your comment is based on pure subjective opinion. You are entitled to like the Omega over the Rolex, but not to assert quality of the former over the latter.
Omega destroyed their image for me with all the Limited Edition after Limited Edition after Limited Edition thing. Thats what i really hate about them. Thats why daytona wins for me
Is it me or did this guys voice get deeper?
Was thinking the same thing
Just bought my Seamaster Chrono in black... such a stunning watch in real life. All these little details. I think I'm in love.
so frustrating as an omega fan boy that their design team can't get out of their thick skulls that hefty watches and helium escape valves are desirable by the general public...
couldn't agree more, although there was that one time at 200m underwater that things could have gotten hairy had the helium not escaped when it did
Nah disagree 40mm is too small for a diver, the 42mm SMP is a pretty perfect size but the black ceramic 43.5 is also nice. I didn’t like the helium valve before I wore a seamaster but I’ve grown to like it, it doesn’t affect the way it wears at all
Which one would you choose? Seamaster chrono or speedmaster professional? I wanted a Daytona but I have been noticing that Daytonas aren’t as good as omega chronos.
The Omega looks amazing, but the size of this thing! Especially the thickness.
Agreed, if it were only a 40/41 or at the most 42 with a tapered bracelet. I would already have it in the collection.
I ordered the yellow gold version of the 300M Chronograph the day it was announced and waited 9 months to receive it, but regretted it almost immediately. The regular 300M is very comfortable but this was just too thick and top heavy. I've got a broad wrist and can wear 45mm Radiomirs fine, but this one felt just too thick and top heavy so I sold it and now I'm getting a Streamliner Chronograph. Still, the finishing was perfect and it's pretty much the only new watch I never found a single defect with, plus the accuracy was better than one second a day. But anyone considering this really needs to try one on first.
Just imagine what would happen if Omega came up with a Panda version of the Seamaster Chronograph 🤯🤯
There already is the Speedmaster Racing 44mm
For 3k$ you can buy panda dial Speedmaster Date
Nicely said. Your last statement is the best !
This is my favourite watch channel by far, bar none. You are a big part of starting my watch obsession!
Great Video. It explains pretty much why I bought a Speedmaster instead of a Rolex (besides the price and availability).
I would love to see a video about the Speedmaster Moonphase with the 9904 movement, I just bought. Beautiful watch.
That shot at 9:15 was outstanding! I’d love to see a behind the scenes video about the making of those sorts of shots.
Fantastic review
Funny how a brand that used to just put a movement, case, dial and bracelet together has gotten so big
The most luxury and well narrated watch channel in the world
Less is more that’s why the watches from the 50 and 60‘s are still the unbeatable 😉
Awesome review. Well spoken, clean clear and crisp. I came to the revelation almost a year ago before finding your videos, I started looking at Zenith and realizing the true value of a Zenith. Just 2 weeks ago I realized the Omegas provide exceptional value as they have started having in house movements. Anyway thanks for your well made views. And would you be kind to review the Aqua Terra Chronograph GMT 231.10.43.52.03.001 vs Daytona
If they can slim down the seamaster series they'd really have something on their hands. They need to look into tapering the bracelet as well as it's fairly thick on the wrist
Do you have quite a thin wrist, currently wearing the seamaster white dial on the strap, wears pretty well
@@glenbuyer8738 this is 17mm thick.. it's a seamaster in that it changes the tides within 100km
Wonderful video. I couldn't agree more😉
Thank you for this great video. Even I am an omega owner, I still could not understand the purpose of some omega watches such as this one . Why omega produce this watch even they have speed master. I think it creates confusion for us. What is the real purpose of this watch. If you think that this is full allround watch, i kindly remind you that you had forgotten to add GMT function. Hahaha...
Another example is current Railmaster. Aquaterra has all specifications of Railmaster. If I buy a Railmaster, what do I want to say to myself? What should be the main reason to buy a Railmaster ? Beside this Omega always compares itself with Rolex. As you mentioned that Rolex is benchmark. But why? Almost every watch of Omega have 15000 gauss magnetic resistance, how Rolex milgauss could be a benchmark ? Therefore marketing strategies and the target customer profile is pretty important.
Kind Regards
Levent
I agree. Why this ugly and non-legible chronograph when they have the speedy?
@@arbiterofreason2068 Well, try to make a bath in the sea (not speaking of diving...) with a Speedy and a Seamaster and you'll discover the difference ;)
couldn't agree more, they really lost the plot
It's unfortunate how these two watches are even compared side to side. The Omega Seamaster chronograph is the obvious technical winner, but the Rolex Daytona wins with its status quo... Just like other things in life. It simply sucks... but we have to live with it. Great video as usual.
Omega make aruguable the best mass production movements but their best watches were earlier models. They actually had wearble 40-42mm proportions
Yeah, 2500 movements or the early 8500 aqua terras
is it not redundant or confusing to have 2 seconds hands showing 2 different seconds positions? In Breitling, the big seconds hand does not move in normal position.
I’ve wanted the seamaster for years but I’m quickly going off it, no idea why. It just seems too bulky now and a bit dated.
For me the size was a deal breaker. Seamaster fit decently only on a rubber strap, bracelet - no. But you don’t want a watch you can wear only with one type of strap :/
Whatever people think of Rolex, it was the brand that got me interested in watches. At 21 i bought an old manual winding precision Rolex, all broken but i was, and still am, a proud owner of this watch. In the years ahead my collection grew and grew, some Omega’s, Panerai and Gerard Perregaux. This little Rolex precision, it runs now, gave me a love for life. A love for watches and for the people who make them.
Rolex went to Everest while Omega went to the moon...just remember that one
Just remember that Rolex was the first wrist watch to be SCOC certified
Patented the first waterproof watch.
First self winding watch with a date feature
First watch to break the sound barrier
First dive watch Rated to the depth of 100M
First watch to the Mariana Trench
And the Beat goes on.
@@Tyde_Tv oh so you’re one of those nuts eh?
...and the astronauts who went to the moon with their Omega, also wore a Rolex as a personal watch under their sleeve
@@Tyde_Tv -First certified because it was the first that bothered. Still a pocket watch world at that point mostly.
-First watch to ONLY have a date feature, however monumentally more complicated perpetual calendars existed with date.
-They had to pay for the waterproof patent for their watch from the actual designers.
-Mariana trench was a pointless publicity stunt. NASA actually had a need for a timepiece for its extreme environments.
-The 100m is very useful and Chuck Yeager was a badass.
Rolex is great but the fanboy shit is weird
and a bunch g-shocks are currently spinning around in the space station, that cost 50~100usd, so what?
I know it’s not quite a heavy hitter compared to the two reviewed here, but can you please review the Tag Aquaracer Calibre 16?
Omega lost in the first sentence, 44mm wide, 17mm thick
It's the over ambitious snake that ate the gazelle.
Little girly wrists. This is a mans man watch.
@@mendipfox1650 you must be overweight
@@alecc4006 I’ve got some girth here and there, let me tell you.
@@mendipfox1650 so you are overweight
Can someone tell me please why a used Rolex is more expensive than the retail price on watchfinders website?
Thinking man's Chrono is the Breguet Type XX Aeronavale
Nice looking but kinda old manish and huge
Nah, it's a Casio.
This is exactly the information I was needing. Well done mates!
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Without doubt one of the most informative and creative channels on YT - this and Bark & Jack are my go to channels.
Try out Hafiz!!!! He has some nice new angles and shots, also his quality is superb!! I guarantee you‘ll like it!
Even if I had all the money in the world, I would never buy a Rolex. It's a personal preference thing, nothing more. I have 2 Omegas and looking forward to adding Jaeger Le-Coultre and Breguet to my collection to pass on to my kids.
I really like the message at the end.
We can always take a look around in the industry and make up our mind before pulling the trigger .
The best chronograph is Zenith El primero 🤩
Agreed. No better chronograph for the price.
I'll take an 1815 thanks lol
And a lot cheaper as well. That high beat movement is a masterpiece.
@@arbiterofreason2068
Me too, but let me sell my house first 😂
Great video. I will take the Seamaster Chronograph any day over the Rolex. I am glad this one is a 44 mm. I love big watches. This piece really is like wearing a fancy piece of furniture for the wrist
For the price Rolex are asking, the Daytona should really be a stellar watch but it just isn't.
What is the name of your background music?
I checked these two myself and the omega looks so much better, that I just had to buy one. Well happy with my decision.
wouldn't the double barrel on the Omega make is bigger?
I would buy an Omega in a heartbeat over the Rolex, I don't want a Rolex just because it is a Rolex
Get over this prejudice, get yourself a Rolex, any Rolex and I promise you that you will understand.
@@idontknow9862 What is there to understand? There are so many better and interesting brands and watchmakers.
@@yohwl Do you own one?
@@idontknow9862 No, therefore my question to you. As I've said, I find other brands much more appealing. So please explain to me, why you feel that Rolex is so special.
@@idontknow9862 you will understand the ego stroke? Some peiple want the nicest watch to them not the pick of those that have a particular name.
I prefer the early 2000's omega, some of the Rolexs are nice but they carry a douchy rep and are clearly overpriced for a nice case.
Lange preowned or even a VC overseas at Lolex prices
I don't recall Chopard watches being reviewed, especially their imperiale collection.
Omega should get rid of that silly helium escape valve and I’ll consider buying one.
I feel the same way. Worthless and looks out of place
I always feel the same way but once I see an SMP without one it looks very strange
I know you don't sell them, but any chance you will review an MB&F?
The point is that everyone wants Rolex. That the reason for a high price. Omega is trying to rise making great watch, technically better than Rolex and maybe even better looking, and sell those better watch for a lower price. It is pure marketing, supply and demand. And please do not forget that for a Patek Philippe chrono you need to pay more than 70k euro and those are all wort. I own both Rolex (Submariner) and Omega (Planet Ocean 600) and thr Planet Ocean is my favourite watch I wear everyday wherever I may go, even at a beach. But when I wear a suit I prefer Rolex, just because it is like a piece of a uniform, something that is aspected to be seen at the wrist kf somone wearing a suit. That's all.
Don't think I'm going to take advice from someone wearing a divers watch with a suit.
@@nomansland120 barely anyone who wears divers actually dive. That is an irrelevant point. Remember we are talking about mechanical luxury watches here, it's a hobby. Go buy a Casio or use your smart phone if you actually care about technical details.
@@kronikinsomniak That's not the point. My point is that if someone wears a "dive watch" with a "suit" he clearly isn't capable of making logical decisions, hence I wouldn't take his advice. It's the equivalent of wearing a dress-watch when you go diving. Sure you could, but you really shouldn't.
Review the AT Worldtimer next please.
I'm old enough to remember when Rolex was just a good tool watch and I am firmly in the belief that they are still a good tool watch and not the high horology brand that they are now trying to market themselves as. They talk about having in house movements but their movements are still manufactured by the same company that always supplied their movements i.e. Egler all Rolex did was buy the company rather than just putting the Rolex name on the Egler company building in their brochures and it's not the case that I am down on Rolex I own a few but I refuse to buy now for the simple reason that they are price gouging and the false scarcity that they use now as a marketing ploy I still remember the days that I could negotiate a good discount for a new Rolex and I even remember in the 1970's when I was trying to buy a gold datejust for my father and when I was hesitating the AD offered to sweeten the deal by throwing in a Daytona for free but that was in the days that nobody was buying, everyone that wanted a chronograph wanted an Omega. Back to the point their watches are no better built, except for the technology, than they always were. They are still just a good tool watch maker and nothing else.
Awesome as ever!
10:13 Rolex doesn't finish the underside of the chronograph seconds hand. Look at the reflection. That's really bad...
They probably skipped QC since the hype is through the roof as people rip everything of the ADs hand they get presented.
Neither does A Lange and Patek Philippe for that matter. it has been shown on this channel many times over
@@waelthassan You're right. I do recall seeing that too on some macro shots on IG before.
Speedy 321 vs Daytona. That is a fair comparison.
Yes!
When rolex doesn't pay your weekly marketing/sponsorship money
I have 2 gold seamasters. An automatic cosmic 2000 date and a torneau quarts on a weird vintage gold bracelet. It's called something like reptile jubilee. Both all gold. I wish the automatic had an exhibition back. What's the history of seamaster?
That Omega looks like a kid's watch.
That's because it is. Men wear Rolex.
Haha