The Hellcat of The 60’s Was Too Fast and Too Expensive😳| Forgotten Legends Ep.3

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  • @NicksGarage
    @NicksGarage ปีที่แล้ว +546

    Thanks for including us in your video! Excellent content. 👍⭐️

    • @brandonsimpson1617
      @brandonsimpson1617 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Thanks for not flagging 337’s channel…..

    • @omegaseamaster1550
      @omegaseamaster1550 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@brandonsimpson1617 Nick is way to classy to do that.
      I understand there are lesser Gear Heads out there :)

    • @EricvZ1967
      @EricvZ1967 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@omegaseamaster1550 And it's free advertising for Nick's channel.

    • @duckworthlewisyo3826
      @duckworthlewisyo3826 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      5ée6e

    • @duckworthlewisyo3826
      @duckworthlewisyo3826 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@omegaseamaster1550 eeréeê

  • @camelsouttahere.
    @camelsouttahere. ปีที่แล้ว +1308

    A lot of non-car people don't, but I just love the pure excess of dodge, the massive engines and massive superchargers always make me excited

    • @ccaamm1
      @ccaamm1 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      Those that "get it", get it. Those that don't, won't.

    • @jackthorton10
      @jackthorton10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      And to those that seek that drive… well… that’s history

    • @PushrodMutant
      @PushrodMutant ปีที่แล้ว +25

      I think those people need to drive something fun. I only buy cars and motorcycles that are fun, and I forget the average person doesn't experience that until I'm doing repairs or rebuilds and borrow my wife's auto econobox. A lot of folks never experience a fun, powerful v8 coupled to a manual transmission with a limited slip rear end and an aggresive final drive ratio. They just don't know any better, and can't miss what they never experience to begin with.

    • @goobner420
      @goobner420 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I used to until they unveiled the EV... Now I kinda don't like dodge 💀

    • @Khumin-cyder
      @Khumin-cyder ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Same, it's one of the few companies that still make the child I'm in laugh...I mean child in me...FCUKKKK!

  • @R3AL-AIM
    @R3AL-AIM ปีที่แล้ว +362

    As a young kid who grew up in a Hotrod family (mostly GM vehicles) the 426 Hemi was spoken as one of the best motors ever made. Lots of respect in the car scene for being the "LS" of its day. In the 60's and 70's, it was a tough choice to pick something over a proper Hemi if you had the money. My grandfather liked to stay faithful, but I only ever heard brand knocking out of good grace. We love anything with 8 cylinders and a good sound.

    • @skaldlouiscyphre2453
      @skaldlouiscyphre2453 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Not quite the LS of it's day, only because the LS is so compact. The LS is the SBC of our day.
      In some ways it's probably more fair to compare the Hemi with the 2JZ, they're both massive, somewhat heavy, race homologated engines with a reputation for making stupid amounts of power and a cult of fanboys who don't care about the arguments for building another engine instead of their beloved.

    • @konnerkramer329
      @konnerkramer329 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Never heard anyone say the 426 was the best engine ever made... heard many times it was a big block with small block heads. The big block chevy was a better design in almost every way hence why it's been the engine of choice for drag cars, boats, road racing, street cars and much more. where the hemi died in the 60s.

    • @R3AL-AIM
      @R3AL-AIM ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@konnerkramer329 we are talking early development and for it's time. The 454 BBC was good, but the 426 was just as stout, revved out easier, was generally lighter, ect. It was doing great work in NHRA and Nascar. Speaking of NHRA, they'd like to have a word with you on the use of Hemi's lol Edit: As well as most major teams in Monster Jam. It's still the choice of the drag cars man. I'm a GM guy myself. The 454 is simply cheaper now days and really always has been.

    • @skaldlouiscyphre2453
      @skaldlouiscyphre2453 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@R3AL-AIM It's funny, the Chevy engine was absolutely crushing it in Can-Am, meanwhile the Hemi was practically non-existent, only the McKee Mk. 5 ran one afaik.
      According to the Engine Builder Magazine the trucks in Monster Jam use Chevy engines, not MOPAR.
      Meanwhile Ford's big block won at Le Mans but was never entirely dominant in drag, oval or road racing.
      Regardless, no one can deny how Hemis dominate drag racing.
      Although, you should look up the Arias Hemi. It's a hemi-headed Chevy big block. Nick Arias Jr. designed the heads. At least some of the time you hear reference to a hemi it might not be a MOPAR Hemi.

    • @konnerkramer329
      @konnerkramer329 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @use-youtube I haven't seen a top fuel car with a hemi in it for about 40 years either what's your point🤣. Also the hemi does not "Rev out" anywhere near as well as a BBC. 40 CFM more of head flow through a smaller runner and valve is a huge difference. Also you could get the BBC with aluminum heads and the zl1 had an aluminum block too so not sure how you think the hemi is lighter?

  • @gorageelsewhere1946
    @gorageelsewhere1946 ปีที่แล้ว +600

    The quality on these videos are always fantastic. Underrated Channel and I'm glad I found it.

  • @rockguitarist931
    @rockguitarist931 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Just imagine how crazy the horsepower race would've become if emissions regulations hadn't killed the over-head cam big blocks that a few divisions had in development.

    • @gordocarbo
      @gordocarbo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Always wondered what an LS6 could have been with a better oval port head back then.
      I dont care what hp number some numb computerized car does, they have o character require 0 skill and really boring to drive after a couple wot runs

    • @rockguitarist931
      @rockguitarist931 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@gordocarbo Right? Some of those V8's were pretty stout by the early 70's, I had a worn out '73 Riviera for a while and even it's twilight years the bone-stock 455 was pretty quick.

    • @gordocarbo
      @gordocarbo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@rockguitarist931 Was a kid then but experienced the same. Torque...love it

    • @justjamesAMX
      @justjamesAMX 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Nascar killed those more than anything with their "exotic" engine ban after the 427 SOHC

  • @lance_the_avocado9492
    @lance_the_avocado9492 ปีที่แล้ว +301

    This is one of my favorite muscle cars ever. The 1970 Challenger R/T with the 426 Hemi was such an amazing car. Rated at 425 but they made more around an average of 475 stock. It’s also very well known because of the iconic street racer know as the Black Ghost, a 1970 Challenger R/T SE with the iconic 426, I suggest you watch the hagerty video on it, it’s very amazing.

    • @thomasgreen1557
      @thomasgreen1557 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Awesome car and story. The original owners son just sold the car at Mecum a coupe days ago.

    • @carlosoruna7174
      @carlosoruna7174 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Have you any idea how many of these where massaged in the day. There was a 66 belvedere in montreal in the 70s, steel rims, green. Dont race it in a straight line. Lol

    • @maxsav007
      @maxsav007 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Theres literally footage of the black ghost in the video

    • @kramnull8962
      @kramnull8962 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      The numbers are amazing, just to make them perform you needed to run a 4:11 or lower. So they weren't as great as they seem to run around with. They wanted to wind high, torque was there but more in the mid range.
      The 426 Hemi along with most others of the 60's were engines that would have really changed the world with a 6 speed. Many big blocks would have gotten really good gas mileage if they could have had a gear to actually let their bottom end shine at highway speeds. 3300 @ 80mph isn't so bad, but drop that to 1700rpm. A 440 would have been in heaven.

    • @lance_the_avocado9492
      @lance_the_avocado9492 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@maxsav007 Good background audio, just didn’t hear any story about the black ghost and I wasn’t watching the vid at the time as I was driving ;)

  • @shaikymandel7593
    @shaikymandel7593 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    It’s really nice to see the history behind these engines, cause when you own one, you have pride in its history and technology.

  • @ellisjackson3355
    @ellisjackson3355 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Those 426s are probably the best sounding old school muscle v8 to me. I love seeing people enjoy chargers and challengers on the streets today

    • @sheneedsyrruup
      @sheneedsyrruup ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just saw your comment on " How to get the 2F2F Skyline sound" today, and in the same day im seeing this comment. I appreciate you explaining that sound.

    • @ellisjackson3355
      @ellisjackson3355 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sheneedsyrruup no problem bro as long as I'm helping. I've obsessed over that sound for decades lol

  • @rjc3343
    @rjc3343 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Dude, you are a true gear head. Please don't stop these videos, you are keeping our culture alive bro!!!!!!

  • @bigpapa5811
    @bigpapa5811 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    In the original 1971 movie, the challenger had a 440. In the 97 TV movie it had a 426.

    • @snowrocket
      @snowrocket ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Reports do vary on exactly how the movie cars in the 1971 movie were equipped. Everyone DOES agree that there were no Hemi Challengers used. The most consistent report says they had four 440 Magnum 4-speed cars and one 383 Magnum automatic car.
      Interestingly, early in the film, Kowalski tells his drug dealer friend, "it's hopped up to over 160 (MPH)". This would have been a big deal in 1971. Later in the film, the police he had out run forwarded their info to the next departments saying, "it may be supercharged". The first modern Challenger with a 6.4L normally aspirated engine goes over 160 MPH. The 707 HP Hellcat Challenger goes 195. Due to better aerodynamics, the 707 HP Dodge Charger goes 205 MPH.

    • @joequillun7790
      @joequillun7790 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It is a known fact that there wasn't any Hemis under the hood of any of Barry's cars. And the "supercharger" quote was all and only Hollywood. Still love the 4 speed noises from the movie.

    • @snowrocket
      @snowrocket ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@joequillun7790 Yes, while the police SAID they thought it MAY be supercharged, nothing in the soundtrack of sounds indicate anything other than a normally aspirated V8. I like the songs, music, and the car sounds of this movie immensely! This movie singularly made me a fan of the Dodge Challenger.

    • @donjohnston4215
      @donjohnston4215 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@snowrocket as usual these videos are somewhat entertaining but some things that are opinion are stated as fact, other things are just wrong but are very confidently stated as fact. Thinking something or being sure about something it’s not the same as something being true.

    • @HiroNguy
      @HiroNguy ปีที่แล้ว

      Thinking =/= feeling.

  • @RogerDuckman
    @RogerDuckman ปีที่แล้ว +37

    This feels like a TV show with the quality in these videos. Please never stop making these.

  • @Ej.504
    @Ej.504 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    You definitely need your own show. Each episode gets more and more captivating. If I can find a insurance company that wont murder my pockets I definitely want a hellcat.

    • @rustyshaklferd1897
      @rustyshaklferd1897 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Someone else chime in here, but having owned a 392 and r/t hemi charger the insurance company didn’t differentiate between them. I am pretty sure the same goes for the hellcat. It’s just a 4 door sedan as far as they’re concerned.

    • @N7408-f7x
      @N7408-f7x ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rustyshaklferd1897 Hellcats probably have a higher rate of being stolen and higher accident rate so insurance rates probably higher

    • @scottiopizza7565
      @scottiopizza7565 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have a 5.7 charger, had a scat pack challenger, and had a hellcat challenger. Insurance was never the issue, as the 2 faster units were not everyday drivers.

    • @talkingmango8658
      @talkingmango8658 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@scottiopizza7565 how old were you?

    • @scottiopizza7565
      @scottiopizza7565 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@talkingmango8658 I was 58 when I bought the Charger and the Scatpack, 2 days apart. 1 year later bought the Hellcat. I do have a good driving record, well, after I hit 30:)

  • @edwinthomas618
    @edwinthomas618 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Your voice is Epic! Makes me feel I was actually in the design room, assembly plant, the dealer and the customer that drove/bought these cars you describe.

  • @William-Bill-Munny
    @William-Bill-Munny ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This was never forgotten, at least not by me. After high school 1986 turbo cars and 4cyl imports were so popular I picked up a nimbers matching 1971 Plymouth GTX. I always wanted a hemi car but the 440ci with an air grabber hood at $1,500 made me a happy camper.

    • @SZUSEast1
      @SZUSEast1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Damn that's nice

    • @AB-ou8ve
      @AB-ou8ve ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No fair!

  • @stevansaunders18
    @stevansaunders18 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Top notch as usual!! Great narration and content! Thank you! My dad bought a used 1956 300 in the late 50’s early 60’s and told stories of the 331 hemi. It was one of his favorites. 5 thousand pounds monster power and 4 wheel drum brackes😂.

    • @albertgaspar627
      @albertgaspar627 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      in a flat area with little traffic, the drum brake is adequate enough...the first time :)

    • @TheCatOfAges
      @TheCatOfAges ปีที่แล้ว +2

      5k? Closer to 3400 probably

    • @ryanhodges7101
      @ryanhodges7101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Albert Very true. I have owned several vintage vehicles with 4 wheel drum brakes. Drove them daily. The problem with drum brakes is excessive heat which causes brake fade. As long as a person thinks ahead and doesn’t do several panic stops in a row they work exceptionally well. That is the reason they are still used on over the road trucks.

    • @albertgaspar627
      @albertgaspar627 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ryanhodges7101 personally, i find most people operate a vehicle the same way they run their lives--some people look "down the road" literally and figuratively to see what's ahead in their near future, and make plans now for what to do then.
      Other focus only on what's going to happen immediately, and they often run from one problem into the next one and then the one that follows. A drum brake uses far more surface area, nearly 350 degrees worth, while the disc brake is grabbing only a percentage of the rotor. but it will cool faster (however, someone sitting on the brake pedal will likely not release the caliper, so that part of the rotor may cool at a slower rate and lead to warping of the disc)

    • @ryanhodges7101
      @ryanhodges7101 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Albert Very good observation. I always plan ahead when driving. Especially in vintage vehicles. Most people don’t seem to realize what can happen if you don’t. I was driving down the interstate a couple days ago following a car that was having trouble staying in its own lane. When I passed the vehicle the driver had both hands on the top portion of the steering wheel texting with both thumbs. My God it pissed me off. 4,000 pounds traveling at 65 mph is a deadly weapon. Especially if there is a stupid clown behind the wheel.

  • @bigyike
    @bigyike ปีที่แล้ว +33

    BROOOOO, idk how you always put out videos that are not only professionally edited and organized but include such interesting and thought provoking content!

    • @mach5jeep
      @mach5jeep ปีที่แล้ว

      You mean like the footage of a T/A Challenger that was supposed to be a Hemi? LOL

  • @eddy0803
    @eddy0803 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    If you've ever seen mustard videos, honestly these have just as good production quality, they're great.

    • @Jueen_
      @Jueen_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love that channel

    • @GeezCte
      @GeezCte ปีที่แล้ว

      Link?

    • @Akash-wn8sh
      @Akash-wn8sh ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GeezCte youtube.com/@MustardChannel

    • @volume311
      @volume311 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GeezCte youtube.com/@MustardChannel

    • @Myiz1
      @Myiz1 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah fr

  • @Nunya644
    @Nunya644 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    This was amazingly done. I never knew the Nascar ban on "non-production" motors is basically what spawned the super muscle car Era. Really cool stuff. Companies were like "screw it, we're making these monsters available to the public then" haha

    • @HARRYAZZHOLE
      @HARRYAZZHOLE ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same goes if a car manufacturer wants to be in RALLY. They have to make several if not a couple hundred production models.

    • @themetabaron8722
      @themetabaron8722 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      and in turn, though a little off topic. Its believed to be one of the first "homologation" specials.

    • @jonathanburkholder1805
      @jonathanburkholder1805 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes that wasn't the only ban They banned the The Dodge Demon from drag strips because it was too fast.

    • @velocity5918
      @velocity5918 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@jonathanburkholder1805I did not know that, what cid the legendary high reveing 340 or the Hemi version, Dart body cars were awesome, Swingers, Dusters cool and there were so many versions to order. I raced and streeted the 440 E-Body Dodges of 70-74 2 fours on a 6-71 on a well built 440 and King of the Street....until those little NOS injected Jap cars took over, great times.

    • @alvarsdzenis4739
      @alvarsdzenis4739 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      NASCAR has always banned non production engines since day one, hence "stock"

  • @bobhill3941
    @bobhill3941 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One of the best, most concise videos I've seen in a long time. I never knew of the hemi's WW2 roots, information on the internals, or the scat packages before. Amazing video, amazing information.

  • @LICobra
    @LICobra ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The original Vanishing Point movie released in 1971 had a 440 magnum 4 speed. The 1997 Vanishing Point made for TV movie had a 426 Hemi 4 speed.

  • @RichardinNC1
    @RichardinNC1 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Well done! The '70 Challenger always has been my favorite muscle car, ever since sitting in a brand new one in a showroom. One of these days I'll own one :) One tidbit missing is discussing the '68 Hemi Dart and Barracuda where Mopar stuffed a race Hemi into a significantly lightened A body. Factory sold, semi street legal (but technically race only) it was the forerunner to the modern day Demon. It would do 10 second 1/4s out the door and most got them into the 8s, holding SS/AA records for decades. It's worth a whole video itself.

    • @hemihead001
      @hemihead001 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But you had to be a Chrysler sponsored Racer to buy one . People have weird ideas about Hemis back in the day . They were expensive , they were rare even back then . They were expensive and a Pain in the ass to maintain . They weren't like new injected computerized cars of today . You just didn't get in them , start them up and go . Sometimes you didn't get them to start .

    • @RichardinNC1
      @RichardinNC1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hemihead001 good points. Although all cars back then often needed weekend maintenance for plugs, points, carb tuning, etc. Many Mopars had cold start issues.

  • @raymondpetrovits2336
    @raymondpetrovits2336 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Props to the Chrysler engineers who developed the prototype fighter plane engine with the first hemi. The translation to their muscle car era is legendary.

    • @codyhatch4607
      @codyhatch4607 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The first engine with a hemispherical head was 1901. Harley's have had hemi heads forever. Today's hemis are hemi only in their name and valve arrangement, they are more wedge in design than a real "hemi" shape

    • @raymondpetrovits2336
      @raymondpetrovits2336 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@codyhatch4607 I am fortunate enough to have both examples of the hemi configuration. A 1967 Plymouth GTX with the Hemi engine and a 1998 Harley Davidson. I know it’s not the 1900’s engine by any means but still an interesting fact you brought to the discussion.

    • @codyhatch4607
      @codyhatch4607 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@raymondpetrovits2336 Still have that 67 GTX? Nice car. But the only reason hemi's flow well are the valves open into the cylinders without being shrouded by the cylinder wall. But an LS/LT with 12' valve angles and near vertical intake runners will make much more power without a super charger because they don't need that 90' turn. I have built many hemis (never an elephant, I wish) and but for the vale angles they are not the most efficient engines out there, and if you look at the hell fire engine combustion chambers, it is Hemi in name only.

    • @raymondpetrovits2336
      @raymondpetrovits2336 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@codyhatch4607 I walk by both my GTX and Harley every day. Both are garage queens. The GTX is stock and only comes out for local car shows. I have been offered stupid money for it but remains my touch stone to my past. I’m retired and just enjoy showing it to newer generations and answering their questions. Thanks for the interest in my car and keep building those Hemi’s.

    • @raymondpetrovits2336
      @raymondpetrovits2336 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@codyhatch4607 I walk by both my GTX and Harley every day. Both are garage queens. The GTX is stock and only comes out for local car shows. I have been offered stupid money for it but remains my touch stone to my past. I’m retired and just enjoy showing it to newer generations and answering their questions. Thanks for the interest in my car and keep building those Hemi’s.

  • @337speed
    @337speed  ปีที่แล้ว +19

    What other muscle cars would you like to see?

    • @aestheticswim3397
      @aestheticswim3397 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Mercury cougar eliminator

    • @Desert_Rogue_Tanker
      @Desert_Rogue_Tanker ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Buick GSX

    • @joshreynolds729
      @joshreynolds729 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Boss 429, Pontiac gto, chevelle, 69 camaro. Honestly you can’t go wrong I’ll watch it. Everything you put out is gold anyways 👍.

    • @lance_the_avocado9492
      @lance_the_avocado9492 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      67 Shelby GT350 and GT500’s

    • @Bozar069
      @Bozar069 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      How about muscle trucks?

  • @xmo552
    @xmo552 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nothing forgotten about this one homeboy!

  • @jacobclayson2372
    @jacobclayson2372 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Old muscle car engines hit me so hard with their distinct character

  • @themetabaron8722
    @themetabaron8722 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love your videos. They are full of genuine connections and detail. No made up sensationalized fluff. There is a reason your channel has grown so quickly, its a refreshing take. Honestly I'd be into some longer format deep dive videos.

  • @jasmille67
    @jasmille67 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Not even a Mopar guy, saw the add and clicked and enjoyed the history lesson.

  • @Stag_Stopa
    @Stag_Stopa ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I just rewatched the clip and a similar story came to my mind: the birth of the E60 AMG (W124). The 500E already was a big story (assembled at Porsche's Stuttgart facility), but by adding a mere 'technology package' (957 AMG-engineering package) at your local dealer you got the biggest baddest sleeper at the time being. A magazine said something like: 'How you can spend money worth a family house on a car without your neighbours even noticing cause they gonna think you just bought an ordinary Taxi' xD

  • @hoost3056
    @hoost3056 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Only have one correction. The Vanishing Point Challengers were R/T's with 440 Magnums and 4 speeds with one 383/auto as a backup. The remake used a Hemi car.

  • @kokomokid4006
    @kokomokid4006 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I graduated in 1970...i lost one friend in a 1968 olds 442...another in a 1970 cuda shaker hood...those cars were snake venom deadly right out of the factory...my favorite the 383 roadrunner. Good vibes

  • @aurorajones8481
    @aurorajones8481 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Dude, your vids are spot on. Keep doing what your doing cause your hitting the spot.

  • @rodmandealerman3297
    @rodmandealerman3297 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fantastic video. I've been a Mopar nut ever since meeting my friend Bruce back in the mid-70's. The hemi was always a mythical beast that we wanted to own one day. My closest to obtaining it was a '76 Feather Duster. 🤣
    As for the 1971 film, I was VERY happy to know that a '67 Camaro was used at the end. 👍👍😁

  • @steelpenguin1
    @steelpenguin1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Excellent video man! I’ve been a fan of Mopar my whole life. Hell my first car was a little Dodge Dart Swinger with a 318 that my dad had a little work done on it. My best friends dad had multiple Super Bees, a Super Bird, 71 six barrel Cuda, and more. He taught me everything mopar when I was a kid. Now I have a 18 R/T Shaker. It maybe getting a stable mate soon. Anyways I was paying close attention to your video and you made zero errors. Nice history piece you did here. Keep it up!

  • @Forged4x4
    @Forged4x4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is one of the best breakdowns I've seen on the Hellcat. Thoroughly entertaining. Great work.

    • @alexander1485
      @alexander1485 ปีที่แล้ว

      since I hate rap and don't involve myself in the culture, i don't watch rap videos lol

  • @tylerberryman24
    @tylerberryman24 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you very much for this, I enjoyed this very much, I know my cars , thought I was dodge guy that knew most of the ins and outs of the muscle era but this filled in all the little voids, the plane engine concept, I did not know, very cool, such a treat to watch 👍🏼

  • @DONTCALLMETHAT
    @DONTCALLMETHAT ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The details and narration alone make me glad I found this channel

  • @jonathancantrell8631
    @jonathancantrell8631 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The quality of the intro, the voice and delivery got this channel a instant like 👍

  • @Dhufeeri
    @Dhufeeri ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the best documentary clip about the 426. Thanks!

  • @albundy5992
    @albundy5992 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Spot on delivery of these intricate videos. Keep it up!

  • @AidoDrives
    @AidoDrives ปีที่แล้ว +2

    amazing video. underrated channel. I've been a fan of the 426 hemi since I was in 4th or 5th grade and as I learn more about the engine, the more I like it. It's been my dream to own one of these a challenger hemi since I was a kid and I hope some day I can own one and drive it like it was intended.

  • @nullofthenull
    @nullofthenull ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You have such a skill for these videos it's unreal

  • @scottbryant7377
    @scottbryant7377 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was originally gonna be on your ass cause during the start of the video you were showing the 70' E-body platform, while dialogue was discussing the "Hellcat" of the 60's. But, after watching the whole clip, I'm gonna say you redeemed yourself, lol. I was actually impressed with the style, and structure of your content, surprisingly satisfied with the contextual accuracy, and now a subscriber. Keep up the good work, quality stuff you're putting down here!! 👍

  • @tr3ynag4ta
    @tr3ynag4ta ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Imma always love Dodge. I pay my homage to the OG 426 Hemi, and the Hellcat is my dream car. I love muscle cars, I hope I can have both of them one day, and thank you for making this video, because now its in my favorites!!!!

  • @rondail5675
    @rondail5675 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very good review. Now I remember why I use to be a Mopar guy. I had a 225-Slant6, a 273, 318's, 383's, and a 440.

  • @SolamenteVees
    @SolamenteVees ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Kowalski's Challenger in Vanishing Point was a 440 4-speed car... love your content!

  • @DaveMustaine333
    @DaveMustaine333 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro, first video I've ever watched of yours and it was awesome! I'm definitely subscribing

  • @ajwinstead451
    @ajwinstead451 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Reading the title I though this was going to be about the Hemi Dart. It ran 9-10s from the factory in 1968 lol.
    Love your videos. Keep it up!

    • @SolamenteVees
      @SolamenteVees ปีที่แล้ว +9

      My initial thought too, but they built so few of them... and they weren't remotely friendly as street cars.

    • @jjboy500
      @jjboy500 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      9-10 seconds in the 60s😂😂😂what the actual fuck

    • @midnight347
      @midnight347 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      No production car ran anywhere near those times stock (in the 60s). The fastest big block muscle cars when stock ran maybe low to mid 13s around 105-110 max i.e. slower than most of today's muscle cars. Now with tweaks they could get much faster but still they didn't get out of the 13s and don't say it was because of the little tires the trap speed tells the story.

    • @crazyoilfieldmechanic3195
      @crazyoilfieldmechanic3195 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@midnight347 A handful of Hemi powered Dodge Darts and Plymouth Barracudas were modified to accept the 426 Hemi engine each year from 67 to 69 so as to make them legal for use in NHRA Super Stock class racing. The rules stated the car had to be road legal including mufflers so that's how they were delivered although the 69 cars were more completely finished than the 67 cars. They were more than capable of running 10.30's in the 60's and many were competitively raced in Super Stock all through the 70's, 80's and 90's. As technology improved, particularly the tires, the cars times lowered and many are capable of very low 9's as a result. They were not street cars sold from the dealer show room but they were factory built road legal cars. About 80 Darts and 90 Barracudas were built from 67 to 69.

    • @SolamenteVees
      @SolamenteVees ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@crazyoilfieldmechanic3195 These cars were built in 1968. (about 50 Darts and 50 Barracudas) These cars are now running in SS/AH in the low 8s at 160+

  • @overcastfriday81
    @overcastfriday81 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great job. Any docu that includes the water cooled jug is damn thorough.

  • @Thickercarton
    @Thickercarton ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This channel is so good! Greatly appreciate the work put into them!

  • @drewski23_7
    @drewski23_7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This channel deserves literally 10 TIMES the subscribers!

  • @TheBlackScatPack
    @TheBlackScatPack ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The quality of these videos are amazing! Even tho I do have ideas of where some of these engines originate from you give so much more info to where I learn something new.

  • @RoyMach1ne
    @RoyMach1ne ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Extremely well done and documented. Thank you for this content.

  • @Anthony12valve440RB
    @Anthony12valve440RB ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The 426 hemi is so popular that for people who don’t know NHRA used the 426 hemi for top fuel dragsters that make over 10k HP til this day and still will dominant the track.

  • @hi-octanetexas7212
    @hi-octanetexas7212 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done video. To be clear, the 1971 Vanishing Point cars were 440's. The crappy TV version of VP had the 426.

  • @joshthetrucker9589
    @joshthetrucker9589 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amazing explanation, man. Love the video, and now I have a new dream car to look forward to. Highly unlikely I'll ever come across one, but if I do... it's gonna be a fun day.

  • @KDMFrost
    @KDMFrost ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this is exactly why i love classic muscle cars whithout any of this in the past we wouldn't have what we have today

    • @michaelbenardo5695
      @michaelbenardo5695 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And without the performance models of the 50s, - Chrysler 300, DeSoto Advanturer, Dodge D500 package, original Plymouth Fury, and Pontiacs and Oldsmobiles with Tri-Power, there would not have been the Classic Muscle Cars of the 60s.

    • @KDMFrost
      @KDMFrost ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@michaelbenardo5695 and what makes me sad about this is that people nowadays see it as junk

    • @easygoing2479
      @easygoing2479 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What people today don't realize is that through the 50's, 60's, and up to about '70, all of those wonderful muscle car engines put out all that horsepower with the basic technology of a common lawnmower. Carburetors, points, and spark. Basic cast iron blocks and heads, just like you'd see on an old Briggs and Stratton. Even the vaunted 426 Hemi, which the Chrysler shop manuals described as their most _complex_ engine, was just a big fancy lawnmower engine with weird cylinder heads.

    • @michaelbenardo5695
      @michaelbenardo5695 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KDMFrost It enrages me, that pro-Jap attitude. By the late 90s, cars from the 60s and older had become a very rare sight in active junk yards, but in the last few years, there has been an uptick in the number of collectible cars being scrapped - cars like 47 Kaiser, 51 Kaiser that was rust-free, early 60s "bullet" T-Birds. I have a feeling that the radical environmentalists are deliberately buying these cars for the sole purpose of junking them, so that they will not get restored, nor will they provide parts for others still on the road. What do you think?

    • @michaelbenardo5695
      @michaelbenardo5695 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@easygoing2479 And they could be rebuilt over and over and over again. Today's are made to be disposed of, not rebuilt.

  • @thebeginning70
    @thebeginning70 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Crazy that 475 to the crank N/A is still amazing today

  • @selfmedicatedrec7361
    @selfmedicatedrec7361 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like how he started talking louder at 2:35. That was brilliant and funny!

  • @aaronnichols9338
    @aaronnichols9338 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'd love to see a video on the 351s from ford. Why was the Cleveland considered by some to be more a big block, why the Windsor stayed in production etc....

  • @Scottocaster6668
    @Scottocaster6668 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great info and narration. I wish I was older back in 1970, I was only 4. I love those old Dodge's.

  • @Bryan-FAA-certified
    @Bryan-FAA-certified ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That was a great video. Very informative and well written. I'm a huge Demon fan.

  • @deandrebit601
    @deandrebit601 ปีที่แล้ว

    Once again, DETAIL, after detail and so insightful and worth while watching the WHOLE of your vids, Well done

  • @ErectkyleDysfunction
    @ErectkyleDysfunction ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It's amazing how 30 grand was able to get you 10 cars in the 60s era.

    • @stevenbrown6720
      @stevenbrown6720 ปีที่แล้ว

      You could buy a h ouse for 13 grand

    • @juaggloj1990
      @juaggloj1990 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      & me wishing to buy a new 426 for under 1k....XD

  • @fs5866
    @fs5866 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is not forgotten, it has been present in so many video games

  • @nickpanaritis4122
    @nickpanaritis4122 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have had hemis and Challengers and a hellcat all my life. Still do. The birth of the Chrysler Hemi engine. Great video and I loved it. Thank you. Nick from ''Nick's Garage''

  • @code0462
    @code0462 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love that I got a video from you on this motor, ive always been just in awe of it and been a massive 426 Cuda fanboy since forever

  • @Ender966
    @Ender966 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Truly great Videos they really make my day and i really enjoy them. One thing: As an european watcher i would love to get the stats of engines in metric in your slides aswell so that i can truly grasp the numbers :)

  • @elviscontreras7957
    @elviscontreras7957 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks so much for your work, Your style is unique and a Piece of Art.
    Congratulations and Keep this Up.

  • @brrbrr474
    @brrbrr474 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This channel brings out the nerdy side of me and cars. I appreciate the effort you put into your videos.Thank you.

    • @337speed
      @337speed  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad to hear it!

  • @erikness4231
    @erikness4231 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That was excellent! I grew up around muscle cars in the 70's and 80's. Never had the $ for anything like that, but loved the scene. I'll have to go through your videos, anything on the 413/426 max wedge, or the 427 SOCH? Subscribed!

  • @toddaulner5393
    @toddaulner5393 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Imagine if they had a 10 speed auto with dual clutches! That would have been nuts!

  • @romainlavoie1526
    @romainlavoie1526 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Top Top Notch . The stories behind the 426 is stuff of legends . Mainly "" The' Black Ghost '''' The legendary 1970 Dodge Challenger R/T SE owned by the mythological Detroit Police Officer Godfrey Qualls marked history among sports car enthusiast . There is no doubt that Officer Qualls had equal skills of any Nascar drivers of the time. This will be forever remembered .

  • @highvibegardens
    @highvibegardens ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey man I love all your videos, incredibly informative and I've seen them all!
    I eagerly await your new releases!
    🙋‍♂️💯🙏

  • @kevinkinsey7926
    @kevinkinsey7926 ปีที่แล้ว

    The delivery of the videos get better and better 💯 been watching since the f body and tahoe 💪🏾

  • @muznick
    @muznick ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You should get an extra thumbs up for the P-47 clip.

  • @howabouthetruth2157
    @howabouthetruth2157 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    No mention of the 392 Chrysler Hemi? Don Garlits was running the 392 Hemi's before the 426, with great success at the drag strip.

  • @nicksull927
    @nicksull927 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro, your videos are so good! This is the best engine/ car mini doc series ever. Like ever!

    • @337speed
      @337speed  ปีที่แล้ว

      I try my best! Much appreciated bro

  • @smflatt
    @smflatt ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My cousin had a '70 Challenger. It dominated the entire area. No other muscle car around could take it. I believe, at that time, it was the most complex automotive engine ever made. It was an insane powerhouse!

    • @boudewijnb
      @boudewijnb ปีที่แล้ว

      It's still an OHV V8 engine, it's not that complex.

    • @smflatt
      @smflatt ปีที่แล้ว

      @@boudewijnb Overhaul a '70s era Hemi and get back with me. I hate it when people comment that don't have a clue what they're talking about.

    • @boudewijnb
      @boudewijnb ปีที่แล้ว

      @@smflatt please tell me what about a hemi is more complex, compared to other ohv v8 engines, since I apparently don't know what I'm talking about

    • @scotmandel6699
      @scotmandel6699 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@smflatt different doesn't equate to complex simpleton

  • @dubiousf00d
    @dubiousf00d ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The algorithm has blessed me. Subscribed!

  • @mattjacomos2795
    @mattjacomos2795 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    9:30 The car featured in the film is a 1970 Dodge Challenger R/T, with a 440 cubic-inch V-8, and not a 426 Hemi V-8 (as is often believed). Eight white Challengers loaned from the Chrysler Corporation were used during the filming.

    • @openroad6522
      @openroad6522 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And it was a 69 camaro that hit the caterpillars

    • @karlepaul6632
      @karlepaul6632 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@openroad6522 It was a '67

  • @Sam-ls6sl
    @Sam-ls6sl ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m just blown away by how powerful these cars were for the time. Even by todays standards they are stout, they were like demon 170’s back then. I grew up in a ford household but like other comments say, the hemi was always respected and spoken of highly. Great video

    • @applejuice9468
      @applejuice9468 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because it was race developed and was expensive as shit lol thats why

  • @MikeJBlues
    @MikeJBlues ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video, the 1971 vanishing point car was a 440 magnum , the 97 remake was a hemi.

    • @amoparx
      @amoparx ปีที่แล้ว

      I searched through this to see if someone else caught that. I had to take a screen shot of the Challenger's hood in the '71 movie just to prove it was a 440 to a co-worker years ago.

  • @Matt_v427
    @Matt_v427 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man awesome content we need the forgotten legends of the big 3

  • @matthieugerard3124
    @matthieugerard3124 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Absolutely slept on channel, you need 100x the likes and subscribers you have right now. Your content is rich with information and the quality is unmatched. I hope you get the recognition you deserve

  • @lowbornfabrication
    @lowbornfabrication ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great channel!! Love how you put content out! Keep up the great work!
    🏁🏴‍☠️

  • @matthewboudreaux2693
    @matthewboudreaux2693 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is a freakin bad ass video.

  • @moparedtn
    @moparedtn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Properly, professionally done and respecfully produced. Well done, sir.
    - Ed on the Ridge

  • @mojo3008
    @mojo3008 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The race Hemi also had higher compression than the street Hemi.

  • @michaeldose2041
    @michaeldose2041 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice piece of American muscle car history. Thanks for putting it together.

  • @---bu6eg
    @---bu6eg ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Subscribed and liked every video I’ve come across. First class presentations of the content! Question: could you touch on Maseratis engines from the 2009-2018 eras? I don’t know too much about them and feel like i would benefit from understanding the hype behind having a Ferrari engine at a used sticker price of close to sub $35K

  • @floozyspeak
    @floozyspeak 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    really well done content, polished professional, great voice, conviction on the microphone, and the knowledge you drop is hardcore, also you deliver it right, the engine, this machine, designed by x person for y reason do z mission, that is fire dude, you pay mad respect to the engineering and its own majestic aspects of its own story

  • @15DEAN1995
    @15DEAN1995 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    it really is incredible that these 60s muscle cars were putting out over 500hp naturally aspirated. the first naturally aspirated american car i can think of which did that after the early 70s, was the c6 chevy corvette zo6 35 years later.

    • @johnsimpson5406
      @johnsimpson5406 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dude, I don't know how old you are but your statement indicates that you don't know much about American cars from this period, as compared to the automobiles of today, let alone history.
      The automobiles of that time had horsepower ratings that were
      THEORETICAL, based upon an engineering mathematical formula based on the cubic inches, and a number of other components, and NOT on actual dynamometer witnessed readings, with accessories.
      These ratings in the manufacturers catalogs, and marketing materials are S.A.E. GROSS THEORETICAL HORSEPOWER AT THE FLYWHEEL!!!!! In fact due to insurance industry power to weight surcharge formulas, and governmental safety concerns, the manufacturers purposely underrated the horsepower rating figures!!!!!
      In the mid-70s the industry went to a
      S.A.E. NET HORSEPOWER RATING SYSTEM, WHICH IS similar to the European 🇪🇺 DIN Systems, or British BRAKE HORSEPOWER RATING SYSTEMS. The system that the
      Society of Automotive Engineers
      (S.A.E.) instituted does measure actual horsepower at the wheel/tire.
      This coupled with emissions, safety equipment, and fuel ⛽ efficiency requirements due to the 1973 oil 🛢 embargo by O.P.E.C. as a result of Western support of Israel 🇮🇱 in the Yom Kippur war, created an era of lower horsepower ratings, for decades. 😔
      Today this is the system that we still use. It took decades until we had developed technology to increase performance, and meet fuel ⛽ economy, and emissions standards.
      Again based upon your comment, your lack of knowledge, and ignorance is showing. May I suggest that you go to a library, and get some books 📚, and get educated, so that you don't make an ass of yourself.
      If you are lazy use the internet, however, if you do, you never know if you are going to get someone who is knowledgeable, and a member of the intellectually elite, as I am, or some dumb schmuck, who knows little to nothing. Good luck 👍. 👍

    • @15DEAN1995
      @15DEAN1995 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@johnsimpson5406
      This comment was written exactly like a keyboard warrior from 2010 it gave me a good laugh

    • @montanaplease
      @montanaplease ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry dude but 500hp in 1960’s translates to maybe 260 to day if that.
      Combine that with crappy suspension and heavy cars and they are weak to todays standards.

  • @buzzyinurface
    @buzzyinurface ปีที่แล้ว

    This video was amazing. I always heard about legendary muscle cars from the 60s but I never knew it was this crazy…

  • @nepzski
    @nepzski ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I dont like hellcats but everytime i hear one i have to look 😂

  • @andrewmitchell6966
    @andrewmitchell6966 ปีที่แล้ว

    RIP Shawn Wilmot. One of the best Mopar restoration pros out there. His 1 of 8 hemi black on black on black 68 chargers was my favorite and imo was undervalued on Mecum.

  • @BigBoss1292
    @BigBoss1292 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This engine is anything but forgotten 👍

  • @Cemi_Mhikku
    @Cemi_Mhikku ปีที่แล้ว

    6:35 The fucking legend. Growing up in Chicago in the '90s we still heard tales of the Black Ghost in car circles.

  • @Stag_Stopa
    @Stag_Stopa ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I'm a (east-)German 90s child and proud owner of a 4th Gen Viper, but I envy those good 'ol times so much! Back in the day it was all about true and honest dedication - striving for what you (and the OEMs) thought was the best ... Nowadays it's in 19 out of 20 cases just about showing off, social media and image bullshit. Owners of halo cars and exotics used to be down to the bone gearheads with deep dedication for technology (Jay Leno, Jay Kay, Billy Gibbons, Steven Tyler, Rod Stewart and literally EVERY racer), but nowadays all we have are 'influencers' who get sponsored or soccer superstars who can't even spell the word 'supercar' ..... I ask myself where should this end? Engineers at AMG and other companies spend shitloads of money to make the impossible possible - can their new customers really understand and appreciate what they do? People who just want to be cool 'collect' limited edition beauties they never would be able to recognise as what they truly are and freaks have to watch and cry. Call me bitter, but as car maniac I scorn the modern days!
    But yes, on the other hand we have other 'goodies' to enjoy and left some dark ages behind us. Ha, it still feels weird to compare cars like the 426 Challenger, the McLaren F1, Ferrari 288 GTO or old Group-B and DTM/ITC cars to their modern 'siblings' - to me it just doesn't feel that honest anymore. Nowadays Audi, Porsche, Lamborghini (shortly: VAG) are my personal nightmare in terms of true intent and dedication - it's all about image and pamper their blind customers ... as mechanic who often works on different cars I hate them for boasting around with their knowledge but putting together such garbage (VAG must really hate their shops/customers or they just know that they can dare to behave like that because they're too big too fail.) Sorry for this ...
    Fianl words: great clip of another golden era! Keep going and see ya,
    Stag Stopa

  • @nicholasvenditti5594
    @nicholasvenditti5594 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing content you legit get me excited when i hear about new car stories that ive never heard about cause i can tell you get excited as well. Keep it up man gonna save these videos and show my kids so they learn about what cars were like before tesla blobs covered our roads

  • @Godzukidan
    @Godzukidan ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Imagine how quick those old 426 Hemi would have been with modern-day tires

    • @DL30Creations
      @DL30Creations ปีที่แล้ว

      Imagine a fresh built 1970 426 HEMI with today's computers and tuning. 0 - death in 3.4 seconds.😳