WHY ARE CREED PERFUMES SO AWESOME? UNCOVERING THE HISTORY TO THIS ICONIC NICHE PERFUME HOUSE

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  • I fell in love with Creed's Aventus and Green Irish Tweed very early in my Niche Perfume journey. Both of these fragrances are exceptional and classic men's perfumes that every man should own.
    Michael Marzano from Libertine Parfumerie joins me today as we unbox the history and unique stories that makes this niche perfume house one of the big players in the Niche Perfume World.
    I'm in love with perfume and beautiful smells. I deeply love niche perfumes and find that they are unique and incredibly diverse. I am Marcelo and I'm the Niche Fragrance Collector.
    #creed #aventus #nicheperfume #perfumes

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  • @aromafromheaven
    @aromafromheaven 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Super enjoyable video especially when the scent of the day is spice and wood,thanks guys for this awesomeness.definitely love creed.thanks for these gorgeous videos brother Marcelo.

    • @TheNicheFragranceCollector
      @TheNicheFragranceCollector  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Bardissan, I had a feeling you would have enjoyed this one. I know you enjoy the Creed fragrances♥️ Great to hear from you my brother

  • @killmewithsmiles
    @killmewithsmiles 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You continue to provide us with great videos.
    Bois Du Portugal is a great one! I totally agree

    • @TheNicheFragranceCollector
      @TheNicheFragranceCollector  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Adeyemi, appreciate the compliment and great to hear that you’re already across Bois du Portugal (but I had a feeling that you would be; your knowledge with niche is pretty amazing). Great to hear from you my homie!

  • @mrbutchie28
    @mrbutchie28 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video and I do hope your channel grow!! I have 3 bottles of Creed and I love them. I have a newer batch of aventus and I use to think I wasn't getting any sillage or longevity (I went nose blind after a few hours) until my wife and I went over a friend's house she called my wife days later and told her that she could still smell my fragrance on the furniture and she raved about how great I smelled!

    • @TheNicheFragranceCollector
      @TheNicheFragranceCollector  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome story! I love it!! I hear a number of people lament that Aventus isn’t what it use to be. And whilst that might be right for them, I find that for me this fragrance packs a punch. It has awesome sillage and longevity on me. Great to hear from you @Butch fragrance review and I do appreciate your encouragement and support👊🏽

    • @Tonixxy
      @Tonixxy ปีที่แล้ว

      What batch do you have?

  • @Once_WuZi
    @Once_WuZi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It's really interesting to hear the story of Creed from the marketing point of view now that we know the truth behind the actual history 😮, regardless I still love both Royal Oud (Julien Rasquinet) and Green Irish Tweed (Pierre Bourdon). In addition, knowing how early the 2 scents were released in the 2 perfumers career demonstrates just how talented both of them are.

    • @TheNicheFragranceCollector
      @TheNicheFragranceCollector  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      For me I always loved the story; but more and more there are questions being raised around it.
      But secondly, I love their fragrances....so even if the story falls apart the fragrances still stands strong.
      Great to hear from you @WuZi👊🏼

  • @alinavid1581
    @alinavid1581 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video Marcelo, the Aventus is such a timeless fragrance. recently I tried a fragrance from the Chanel Les Exclusifs line Bel Respiro and it reminded me of the Green Irish Tweed. thank you for such awesome content my friend.

  • @davercountingcigars
    @davercountingcigars 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Marcello. That was awesome. I can listen to you guys talk all day. Do a nice 2 hr podcast with you and Michael. I would love to hear about all the Creeds. I’m so hooked on Erolfa I love it. So I guess if Creed continued making gloves they wouldn’t be considered a Niche house. Correct?
    Have a safe weekend my brother. 👍👍👍. AMAZING VIDEO 👍👍👍

    • @TheNicheFragranceCollector
      @TheNicheFragranceCollector  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey Daver! Great to hear from you and so happy that you enjoyed this episode. It was something that I’ve been planning with Michael for weeks. I’m a big fan of Creed and I knew that Michael was the right person to bring onto the channel to share with everyone (the man is a walking encyclopedia of niche fragrance knowledge)
      In the coming weeks, I’m going to be breaking down most of the fragrances in the Creed line up and I’ve made sure to include EROLFA, so looking forward to reviewing this one.
      And yeah, had they stayed making clothing, technically they would be a designer brand….I wonder how that would have turned out in the end?? Great to hear from you mate!

  • @behemothsbaby
    @behemothsbaby 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your dialogue with Michael! Always entertaining!

    • @TheNicheFragranceCollector
      @TheNicheFragranceCollector  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks @LA May Appreciate the support! I love filming alongside Michael….always enjoying gaining greater knowledge from ‘The Master’

  • @ismailsviryov4460
    @ismailsviryov4460 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super interesting video, as always.
    Well done Marcelo.

  • @machineo5
    @machineo5 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for the informative video!! If you have some time someday would you please review Creed Original Santal? It's my favorite Creed of all time!

    • @TheNicheFragranceCollector
      @TheNicheFragranceCollector  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you @J O appreciate the feedback and support. And 100% my friend!! I have Original Santal lined up as one of the fragrance I will be reviewing in the coming weeks….awesome fragrance🥰

  • @Tsobe
    @Tsobe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Top quality video, looking forward for more

  • @user-pp9bl5gr1n
    @user-pp9bl5gr1n 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If every Creed projected like this, this house would truly take over the industry

  • @lewah7663
    @lewah7663 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Loved Michael's presentation of the history of Creed. I learn something new with every video you bring out Marcelo. Bois du Portugal is definitely on my list to try.

    • @TheNicheFragranceCollector
      @TheNicheFragranceCollector  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm a big fan of the Creed House and yes, it was brilliant to bring Michael on to share his exceptional knowledge on this House. In the coming weeks planning to share more on the Creed fragrance line up and Bois du Portugal is definitely in the line up💪🏽....great to hear from you Ollie

  • @leelogins3982
    @leelogins3982 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Marcelo fantastic Guest
    Michael is amazing
    There is not much about a house this Man Dosent know.
    And your previous Creed Video, what was my No1 !!!!
    Bangon Son Bois de Portugal

    • @TheNicheFragranceCollector
      @TheNicheFragranceCollector  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Lee👊🏽….and yes, Michael is amazing. It’s no wonder that he’s my Sensei💪🏼
      And yes Bois du Portugal is an amazing fragrance ♥️

  • @Marwarluigi
    @Marwarluigi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just bought my first Creed bottle. A large Green Irish Tweed. I gotta say, I smell so clean and sophisticated. I wanted a scent that was good in all situations, and this one is a winner.

    • @TheNicheFragranceCollector
      @TheNicheFragranceCollector  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Congratulations!💫 this is an incredibly timeless scent. 50 years from now you’ll still be wearing Green Irish Tweed and loving the confidence this perfume gives you😎
      Awesome to hear from you @Marwarluigi👊🏽

  • @MrPhanthom86
    @MrPhanthom86 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As summer hits 🇦🇺, creed will be a perfect house

    • @TheNicheFragranceCollector
      @TheNicheFragranceCollector  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely! I feel that ‘Creed’ was made for Summer (even though I know they play well all year round😎); they fall in that Dry/Mossy Woods and Aromatics that as the weather warms up the fragrance just pops on skin😍
      Great to hear from you @Pallava

  • @jeffreylin2690
    @jeffreylin2690 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    love the intro! long live king aventus 👑

    • @TheNicheFragranceCollector
      @TheNicheFragranceCollector  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Jeffrey! I agree, Long Live The King👑. Great to hear from you mate!

  • @nelsonoillataguerre24
    @nelsonoillataguerre24 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can’t wait for the reviews that will follow on this house!
    I own 2 but am interested I get the feeling these videos will encourage more💵🔥

    • @TheNicheFragranceCollector
      @TheNicheFragranceCollector  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Nelson! Yes, once we start unboxing this Creed line up that we’ve got planned, I have a feeling that you might want to invite new siblings to your existing Creed collection 🥰

  • @Robbyfrags90
    @Robbyfrags90 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Creed is not Creed anymore! Sorry to say but their fragrances are a shadow of what they used to be with all the hundreds of batch variations with Aventus you will never get 2 bottles that smell the same. Their prices went up and bottles got smaller. A large company named Black Rock I think owns them now. I can't support their mission anymore because the art of perfumery is not #1 MONEY is and it really shows in their watered-down fragrances.

    • @TheNicheFragranceCollector
      @TheNicheFragranceCollector  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Hey @Rob great to hear from you. Because I’ve only jumped into niche in 2017 I’m not able to compare to any of their earlier batches. Having said that, I’m still impressed with the stuff that I’ve purchased and yes, you’re right in saying that they’re not cheap.
      Thanks again @Rob for jumping into the conversation and sharing👊🏽

    • @user-rq7tt7qv6x
      @user-rq7tt7qv6x 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's sad and true that have changed and thier prices to 😑

    • @Robbyfrags90
      @Robbyfrags90 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@user-rq7tt7qv6x I know I used to respect them highly and now I refuse to support their greed

    • @michaelmarzano2759
      @michaelmarzano2759 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hi Rob
      I respect your point of view, I just want to clarify a few things.
      First of all, the Brand is still owed by the Creed family, with major shares owned by the luxury Fontaine Group.
      Secondly, the 'batch issue' is a placebo response to people experiencing scent fatigue.The concentrations have not chaged at all, the raw materials and maturation processes have not changed in terms of volume or time.
      I dare say you spray fragrance around your neck? If so, you may have developed scent fatigue as a consequence of that.Our noses process more than 1 billion odourant molecules a day, so something that is virtually next to your nose day in and out will become less sensitised by the nose over time, as the scent receptors in our brain have to shut off fimiliar notes to continue to be able to identify billions of others.I will ask Marcelo if we can do a segment on this phenomenon.Hope this helps.

    • @TheNicheFragranceCollector
      @TheNicheFragranceCollector  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks Michael for your input. Let’s do it! Would be awesome to create another episode together👊🏽

  • @realchris3472
    @realchris3472 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Marcelo I happen to take delivery on a 8 ML sample of Green Irish tweed last week and received a bottle of Creed Aventis the day before yesterday. I thought the G.I. T smelled like Pine-Sol (a pine-oil based cleaning agent) we use here in the states, notifiedvthe seller and he encouraged me to return the product. Likewise, the Creed Aventis self smelled like Pine-Sol too! I wore for three hours and it was a very linear scent - nothing else. No fruit, no smoke, no other discernible fragrance. In the end I had to wash it off because the cloying sent give me a headache. I sent the sample back to the seller yesterday. I have been to the Creed store in Las Vegas and tried their sample and I’ve been unimpressed. Any ideas on what caused the smell I encountered? Was it ambergris or one of the masks they use? Anyway it was a thoroughly unpleasant odor. Your thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

    • @TheNicheFragranceCollector
      @TheNicheFragranceCollector  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great to hear from you @Real Chris. What you explained I personally haven’t experienced before and haven’t heard of something like this from others, so not really sure what to advise.
      Out of interest did you get these samples from a retailer? I’m curious to know if you actually received the real thing or something else?

  • @martinlaursen8335
    @martinlaursen8335 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    First of all thanks for the great videos
    Second Creed is a great house and has undoubtedly made some awesome fragrances, but they are on the wrong path being disrespectful to their loyal consumers, watering down their fragrances

    • @TheNicheFragranceCollector
      @TheNicheFragranceCollector  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you Martin, great to hear from you. I have a lot of Creeds in my collection and I still get great mileage out of them (both sillage and longevity). In truth I can’t compare to anytime prior to 2017 (when I first got into niche) so maybe they packed a lot more punch back then?
      Very much appreciate you jumping into the conversation @Martin Laursen👊🏽 awesome to hear from you

  • @Iwantproblems
    @Iwantproblems ปีที่แล้ว

    Marcelo, curious to know if you have new Creed bottles from under the new ownership and if the quality remains

    • @TheNicheFragranceCollector
      @TheNicheFragranceCollector  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I purchased the bulk of my Creed collection between 2019 and 2021, so I have nothing from the new ownership.
      However a close friend recently purchased the new Aventus (with the metal cap) and for me this one seemed to come out of the gate stronger than my 2019 version.
      From those around me (who have purchased a Creed recently), I've been hearing that the new batches have been very positive (I know that batch conversation is a big deal); but I don't know this 100% for myself @Iceman00769....sorry that I couldn't have been more help on this point

  • @SPACEDOUT19
    @SPACEDOUT19 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you check out the book "The Ghost Perfumer" by Gabe Oppenheim yet? i loved the interviews with him.

    • @TheNicheFragranceCollector
      @TheNicheFragranceCollector  ปีที่แล้ว

      I have. I can't say that I enjoyed the read....it felt a bit one sided. Would love your thoughts on this?

  • @leonalexandre1451
    @leonalexandre1451 ปีที่แล้ว

    To me the main reason of the success is that it manages to be sophisticated and premium yet mass appealing and easy to wear

    • @TheNicheFragranceCollector
      @TheNicheFragranceCollector  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep, nailed it💫 totally agree with you Leon. Even their oud (Royal Oud and Princess Oud) and very smooth and easy to wear; yet sophisticated and complex
      Great to hear from you Leon

  • @philip1123
    @philip1123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey where did you find this posh bloke?... :-)
    Anyway it was nice listening to some history.
    A few things i would like to add:
    1. The creed family does not own creed anymore. They sold the firm for a huge sum (i cant remember the name of the buyer). I dont know what their position in the company is these days
    2. Is creed a very good niche house? Certainly! Are there better ones?.. For sure!! What MADE creed the best known niche brand and tons of money is aventus. Plain and simple.without it they would be just another nice brand with some history behind it...
    3. Finally boise de p is mentioned!!!! You have to review this one a.s.a.p!

    • @TheNicheFragranceCollector
      @TheNicheFragranceCollector  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Funny when you mentioned BdP in the last post I was wondering if you had come across this episode😂. Michael's all time favourite
      BTW the 'posh bloke' is my sensei...this man's knowledge on all things niche perfumery is next level; we've done a few episodes together...have a look at the one we did on Amouage; I believe you'd enjoy this one: th-cam.com/video/3m__6YKgxh0/w-d-xo.html
      Great to hear from you mate👊🏼

  • @hypnotoads
    @hypnotoads 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Couldn’t get on with BdP unfortunately, just not my style ☹️ I have owned and passed on many Creeds and they are in general very good, although I have only three in my collection now - first release bottles of Royal Mayfair, Pure White Cologne and Erolfa.
    Performance issues led me to, shock horror, get rid of my Aventus and replace it with Parfums Vintage Emperor Extrait. No looking back there!
    I like Creed, even though they get a bashing sometimes. Royal Oud is killer 👍

    • @TheNicheFragranceCollector
      @TheNicheFragranceCollector  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shock horror!! Who gets rid of Aventus😱 😂 Clearly I need to try Parfums Vintage Emperor Extrait! Interesting that you didn’t enjoy BdP….I actually struggle with Royal Mayfair; admittedly I only tried this once very early on in my niche journey, so maybe I might like it now.
      And yes, I can’t get enough of Royal Oud; really an amazing fragrance….great to hear from you Mark👊🏽

    • @hypnotoads
      @hypnotoads 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheNicheFragranceCollector I give away all my unloved/unworn frags, passing on the experience! After my initial buy everything splurge I have a strict one-in/one-out policy now. Keeps me on my toes!
      Although I do regret passing some of them on 😉

  • @JT-rx1eo
    @JT-rx1eo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bois du Portugal is my favorite Creed!

    • @TheNicheFragranceCollector
      @TheNicheFragranceCollector  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m so glad that you’re on this one James! Not many people are aware of Bois du Portugal, and yet I enjoy wearing this one over GIT (I know, I know go wash my mouth….how dare I say such a thing!!😁)

    • @JT-rx1eo
      @JT-rx1eo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheNicheFragranceCollector Bois du Portugal has been my favorite Creed from the beginning. It's so smooth. The smoothest fragrance I have or have tried. I have Lalique Pour Homme lion also, which is a near-clone of Bous du Portugal.
      I also just received my full bottle of Creed EROLFA, after testing from a decant. I honestly think it is the best true aquatic fragrance ever. The real ambergris gives it the smell of sailing the Mediterranean with sea spray splashing your face. It smells like the ocean. And being released in 1992, it's not only the greatest aquatic ever imo, but is one of the first. That, in my opinion, is how great and influential the house of Creed has been. I'm not a blind Creed-lover though. For example, I don't like Creed Royal Mayfair at all.

    • @TheNicheFragranceCollector
      @TheNicheFragranceCollector  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Boom Baby! I love EROLFA and love your description above, on point my friend! Yes, I’m a fan-boy of the Creed fragrances too and I’m looking forward in sharing over the coming weeks just about the full Creed collection with everyone. This episode was to help put the full Creed house into context and recognize their amazing history….great to hear from you James

  • @rprentals
    @rprentals 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You must be talking about creed from 10yrs ago.

    • @TheNicheFragranceCollector
      @TheNicheFragranceCollector  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve only jumped into niche perfumery in 2017 so would have loved to experience what they were like back then. Great to hear from you @RP Rentals

    • @rprentals
      @rprentals 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheNicheFragranceCollector for the amount of time you have been doing it, your doing a great job
      Just sad to see some of these frags getting watered down

  • @megasoid
    @megasoid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dubious history notwithstanding, Creed's line of world class stinkers are still unparalleled. I own 12 bottles and have been a borderline irrational fan since 2002.

    • @TheNicheFragranceCollector
      @TheNicheFragranceCollector  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Funny, I want to believe the history (I'm hoping that one day I can explore this further, because it's such an awesome story).
      And yes @megasoid, you my friend are definitely a fan boy! 12 bottles places you firmly in that club😎

  • @Executer1100
    @Executer1100 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know you are one of the best in the business when others copy your scents. Creed is much more than Aventus, but sadly nowadays they are going downhill. Still perfect brand if you are looking for something that smells natural, crowd pleasing and unique

    • @TheNicheFragranceCollector
      @TheNicheFragranceCollector  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m always impressed at the number of clones and dupes that are out there for just about the entire Creed library; so yeah, they have to be doing something right.
      Great to hear from you Filip👊🏽

    • @joeyc8622
      @joeyc8622 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Downhill how so ? They still produce the highest quality and constantly sell out across Australia at least.

    • @TheNicheFragranceCollector
      @TheNicheFragranceCollector  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Joey, I’ve discovered that the biggest lament within the fragrance community is that Creed isn’t as great as they use to be. For me, this is not my experience with the brand and maybe it’s because I got into niche in 2017 and discovered Creed shortly after.
      For me they’ve always been amazing. I have a good collection of the Creed fragrances and for me they all perform amazing and are worth the money I paid for them…..and I have a feeling you feel the same way.
      Great to hear from you mate! Awesome to have you jump into the conversation👊🏽

  • @julioayala9551
    @julioayala9551 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    [SINCE 1760] THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES ITSELF/THAY GO WAY WAY BACK/MY SOTD DIURNO MILANO FRAGRANZE

    • @TheNicheFragranceCollector
      @TheNicheFragranceCollector  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Amen Julio….and that’s the point on these guys. After 7 generation of Father to Son, of course you’re going to create amazing ‘anything’…in this case it’s perfumes.
      Great to hear from you Homes….another SOTD that I need to go out and explore (I love your collection my brother)

    • @misterkatz100
      @misterkatz100 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheNicheFragranceCollector Good evening Marcelo 👋🏻 Out of curiosity - have you read the book 'Ghost Perfumer' (if so) do you have any thoughts about the subject?

    • @TheNicheFragranceCollector
      @TheNicheFragranceCollector  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey there @Mister Katz, yes I have read the book. I shared some comments in this particular video: th-cam.com/video/0ISF8ZCAZ54/w-d-xo.html
      This is one of that Maté talks and if you go to the seven minute mark the conversation starts there on Creed.
      And I also talked about batch varieties in this particular Mate Talk: th-cam.com/video/_v8urd9_dCc/w-d-xo.html
      If you go to the one minute and 20 second mark, I start the conversation on Creed then
      Curious to know your thoughts on this.
      Thanks for reaching out

    • @misterkatz100
      @misterkatz100 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheNicheFragranceCollector I will look into that. Thank you 👋🏻

  • @a.j.laplace4216
    @a.j.laplace4216 ปีที่แล้ว

    Boy do I have a book for you….

  • @mojif9995
    @mojif9995 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    you should’ve mentioned that the quality has gone downhill recently

  • @isaacisrael2893
    @isaacisrael2893 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aventus has been reformulated. The new batches smell different from the original not as potent however still a GREAT fragrance

    • @OsAbliNgin911
      @OsAbliNgin911 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree. I have a 2019 batch of Creed Aventus. It did not smell as potent as the batch I sampled in the past, and did not last as long either. You are better off buying a good Creed Aventus clone than buying the new batches of Creed Aventus. Also Creed as a brand is no longer family owned. It is now owned by Black Rocks Investment group.

    • @valantiskontos2407
      @valantiskontos2407 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@OsAbliNgin911 People was always complaint about the performance in Aventus ,even with 2012 batches..
      I own 19p11 batch and last on my skin 12-14hrs easily every time I wear it with a strong projection for 4-5hrs....I'm from Greece and most batches of Aventus performs very good under the greek weather (Especially during spring time)...On the other hand most of the Creed fragrances they not perform well in a very cold climate...The notes are hiding in cold...I also get the same longevity with Green Irish Tweed ( 2020 & 2021 batches)...But GIT has a superior sillage once sprayed in the room (I can smell it strongly in my room 14hrs later after i spray it)...So far the best Aventus batch i had was from 2013(both in smell and performance)(Batch 13U or 13W something)..
      Aventus quality drops since 2014 - 2015(and i don't mean the performance..I still remember when i first opened my first 500ml flacon 2015 batch,and immediately sensed a particular note that cheapened the fragrance and it wasn't present in my 2012 and 2013 batches).. Since then Aventus was more light weight in it's composition...

  • @rasungod212
    @rasungod212 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry as an American I see through the bullshit the French took Creed to the next level the English influence is practically irrelevant

    • @TheNicheFragranceCollector
      @TheNicheFragranceCollector  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Boom! Shots Fired😎 Thanks @Ra Sungod for jumping into the conversation👊🏽