I truly feel sorry for Fred Harrison. He tried so hard to explain to people in the simplest terms possible why they are slaves. And yet they still never got it. What a cruel joke it all must feel like for him. One day, Fred, your dream will be realized. One day people will awaken.
Magna Carta enshrined the notion of a ruling class. Kings are not born. They are human, and all humans should have equal rights, therefore his interpretation is the correct one. All humans should benefit the same amount from the rent of the land.
The majority of the time I feel like I'm been pissed on without the courtesy of calling it rain. We live in a world full of greed and with a desire to control mankind through the implementation of banking systems and taxation. Lets face it the majority of us are slaves to money, we cant live without it and we are encouraged to get ourselves into debt! I'd rather live in a world that I could live off my own hard work rather than contribute to someone else's wealth. The gap between rich and poor is too much; in recent events Kim Kardashian has been robbed £5.2m worth a jewellery which is headline news...I couldn't earn enough money before tax's to buy £5.2m worth of jewellery in 100 years yet there's people out there with enough of it to throw around frivolously while we are up to our eyes in debt!! Spread the wealth and stop trying to fck us over and kill us off!!!
I admire and have great respect for Mr. Fred Harrison; I can wash his very educational documentaries all day if I could. Very well presented, very astute, informative, in depth and a great narrator voice to boot
Magna carta is the best gift that man gave to man and we are destroying it and each other with it. If we keep dissecting life then life is not worth living something has to change.
"The right to estate" means the right to BUY land from someone else and having it protected from robbers(private or part of the state) rather than the right to have land given to you for free. The rights refer to the things other people are not allowed to do to you(Kill you,rob you,etc) rather than what other people own you(give you free stuff).
OK, I live in Thailand, no one who is not Thai can buy land. I also speak to my friends from China, who cannot own land, they can buy a house but it is still the government's land. Then you have my country that sells land and houses to the Chinese, Pakistani, Arabian, any country. Is it the same in Japan? Is it the same in any other country who has an idea of who owns that place? How can it be right that a country the size of China will not sell their land to the people, yet, a country the size of England will sell their land to that country. I love the Chinese, the Chinese are not a problem for me, but if you have a weak government who is in bed with the Saudi's this is what happens.
This makes absolute sense. "IXXI" is an ancient stone carving of the elite, if folded centrally, (vertically or horizontally) it forms a mirror image. You now know how world power works! The OPPOSITE is the TRUTH!!! IXXI also means 9,11 in roman numerals. Ring any bells? Revelation 9:11 They had as king over them the angel of the Abyss, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon and in Greek is Apollyon (that is, Destroyer).
The Rich do the least, pay the least, but get the most. The Poor do the most, pay the most, but get the least. The more things change, the more things stay the same.
+Itsmeeman1 "pay the least"? really? The top 10% pay 70% of all income tax. How is this considered "pay the least"? mercatus.org/publication/tax-burden-among-varying-income-percentiles
Itsmeeman1 According to Wikipedia the spending of the US government in 2014 was 3.504$ trillion. That means that the income from taxes of the government was also around 3.5$ trillion. If we divide this by the number of Americans between the ages of 15-64(212,984,598 people) we get that the average American(including the unemployed) pays 16,451$ annually. Do you really think that people from the bottom 50% actually pay that much? *This comment is only about Federal taxes.
His interpretation of the effect of Magna Carta seem unrealistic to me. Societies require governments because that is the nature of humanity especially in modern times. Private property is a part of what humans have fought for since the dawn of time.
The whole point of this video is to explain how the system of strong central government that represents the people has been undermined by the feudal system of Lords and oligarchs. "Private property is a part of what humans have fought for since the dawn of time." Do you ever ask yourself who owns the land and property? The rich don't want their privilege to be taxed away, they prefer to steal your economic surplus.
"Private property is a part of what humans fought for since the dawn of time" Every hunter-gatherer in every hunter-gatherer tribe ever: What's this guy talking about? That Native Americans had tribal/communal property and Europeans had private property was a major divide in relations between Natives and Europeans in the United States.
I dont know how you could possibly think that non socialisation of land assets is a bad thing. In the UK it has squashed the desire for exploration and put the power in the hands very large companies. Its basically a foolish thing to prospect, and an even more foolish thing for a land owner to allow it.
needs to be clearer, needs to be more simple to understand- interesting to see how right to land was removed for the USA. Is he saying the King and monarchy should have kept control of the land? not clear what would have happened had magna carta not been agreed on- by the way people are still not enforcing habeus corpus at Guantanamo and in psych hospitals where ppl can be held without trial indefinitely
This explains why we, in America, do not own the land our house sits on. We "rent" that land from the Vatican via our local governments. Don't pay your rent for five years, the banks come for the house even if it is paid off.
Everything in America is rented. Even if you own your car it needs to have that registration tax, insurance to have that cat is a tax to anybody who can't come up with a 30k CD to use to be self insured, same with property, even if you own your house you need to pay your property tax. They hide tithings as taxes. Taxes is tithes
Some say that Runnymead was a swamp, impassable to man or steed and in fact full of dead horses who got stuck there. Now where did they meet exactly? And this smacks of what occurred in the US of A with the 14th amendment.
Land value is what people pay to control territory -- in other words, to control other humans' existence. That value belongs to everyone equally as compensation for loss of the right to exist. If a legal system declares that some people (landlords) get it and others don't, that legal system is declaring that some people have a right to exist and others don't.
@@Ask_a_Geoistthis is bullshit. I used to pay rent. Then I bought a small apartment building. That makes me a business owner. Not someone who removes others’ right to exist. Anyone can do the same thing. Immigrants do this quite frequently, I once met a man who couldn’t read or write who owned and rented out property.
This is why it was just Article 61 of the MG that was invoked, it just relates to our natural rights nothing more, which is why everyone has a duty to stand by it and rebel and if they don't then they should not live here , we done.!!!
Human rights and the rule of law along with nonviolence were the values accepted by the entire civilized world as part of Buddhist mind set called Bodhisattva that was adapted by all subsequent religion and philosophy. The British people whose human rights were trampled upon by the king, sought refuge in Bodhisattva for their liberation. The Magna Carta demanded that the king was subject to the law, but it took a long time (1688) when it was truly implemented, enabling the British change their fortune and that of the whole world.
What a totally bullshit interpretation. “The English are the only people in the world that will allow the king to be all powerful when he is to do good but tie his hands when he is to do evil.” -Voltaire The Magna Carta ensured the stability of the realm, it was a community of noblemen that wanted to brake down power and make it more regional than centralised around a king that taxed the hell out of everybody to go on crusades and foreign wars. Heck, the Magna Carta even enforced the rights of towns to elect their own mayors and observe their traditions. It cleansed the land of foreign mercenaries that terrorised the average man. It returned Welsh and Scottish prisoners back to their homelands. And in the 1225 version it ensured every Englishman regardless of rank, the right to a fair trail and a jury. There’s nothing wrong with the Magna Carta, it’s one of the very few instances in history where everything about it was positive.
Excellent Commentary!!! I was falsely married under a Marriage Contract that didnot protect me...so YeSsss my Liberties were oppressed! The Justice of the Peace who married me and my exhusband forgot to tell me that the Laws were signed into place by the Gangster/Felon KinG John! Also that the laws were put into powerful Christian men who did not let any peasants nor any women have their sai in the newly formed laws! So YeSsss...the Magna Carta screwed a lot of people!!! Also I am a Spirtual person who has been with the Holy Spirit x2 and I know first hand that no oNe needs a fake Religion to keep control over them!!! Also I would neVer have signed my marriage Contract if I knew that Christians had signed the Laws into place because many of the Rich Christian Nobility were violent slave owners along with their Rich and powerful friends all over the World!!! Power to the People who stand for True Equality and Fairness for Humanity, Our Precious Planet Earth and Nature's lil ones during these trying times!😇
Sooo, he is arguing that because the Magna Carta strikes a blow to socialism, that you cannot possible be a free person... To boil down the Magna Carta to this one issue is pretty obtuse thinking. BTW, Come here to America. Anyone can own the land, and there is plenty of it for all classes of people. I guarantee you will pay taxes on it.
The exact logic given for the Magna Carta being bad, could be used to justify it as a good thing, by simply placing the crown of tyranny on the king and the scepter of justice in the hand of the acting barons. Your logic does not stand alone and in alm situations, it is a double edged sword. Your logic could be used against King John, just as easily as against the acting barons, it would just depend on who is the tyrant and who is the champion of justice. You are simply claiming that the barons are the tyrants, operating in greed, whereas history claims King John as the tyrant. This entire history is speculation based on circumstantial evidence and biased claims, yes, but I still choose to believe the Magna Carta was a triumph of justice over an inconsiderate tyrant. Thank you for some good photography.
What you say stands as a perfect example of the relativity of all human acts. Nothing can aspire to be absolute because that's an impossible goal to achieve when there aré several & opposed personal interests at Stake. Thus the chance to bring any number of arguments on any subject. AND thus the paradoxe of truth according to the rules of lógic: If they stand on valid premises they might all have valid conclussions.
Christopher Hartly Holte Maybe, but Fred is correct if you look at where we are today - monopoly in land and natural resources is the root of the inequality, poverty and environmental degradation that we have today, no?
@@smartiepancake Under feudalism, most people had no right to any land at all and were peasants with absolutely no rights. Only a few people owned land, only nobles and the church. No one else had land, you are confused with what Henry the VIII did, when he took the Church lands, 30% of all the land back then, and sold it on to private individuals. It's an important stage in our later agrarian and then industrial development called "liberalisation of the land" that was still impossible at that time, because land was monopolised, and not by the state, there was no state yet in the definition of the term, but by the church and nobles, private individuals and institutions. Before that, because of feudalism, most people had no right to any land and were tied to the land. Look up what feudalism is and understand it properly. That is clearly a lot worse than now, where land ownership is available to anyone that has the money, unlike in feudalism. You need to find better excuses to not want to pay your dues for the roads, streetlights and everything else that you use that was not available back then either.
@@Oscuros No-one is saying we shouldn't pay taxes because of Magna Carta, but the document is venerated to an absurd degree. The demands of Magna Carta were already common law, legal convention and legal writ. Some of the demands of Magna Carta aren't even relevant to the civil war which brought it about. Basically, Magna Carta is both treasonous and unnecessary. There is a legacy of Magna Carta and that is shown in the English Civil War of the 17th Century as well as the US War of Independence (although, there are other causes of this), the US Constitution (specifically), the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the European Court of Human Rights, the EU Human Rights legislation and the various human rights organisations (generally).
"Landlords in Parliament were taxing the wages of the workers" There were no direct taxes on wages in those days because there were no computers. How could you directly tax every person hired to perform a task without laws and technology to enforce each hirer to collect the tax and submit it and each hired to pay the tax?
i admire your research and i would love to check out your sources to compare with what ive found, you are obviously looking for truth however one slight issue i do have in-which maybe you could elaborate on. the barons did not lose their rights recieve rents, implimenting common law was far from a selfish act. like you said it was their "estate" not under common law but under lease from the king. they were all under a position of public office and therefore not fully protected by common law but needed to be. Judges were paid by the state to enforce the law, during and after the time of the barons wars however any feudal form of theocratic governance is anti-freedom which is why common law was included into Magna Carta. All it did was attempt to bring the king away from his “colour of law” and reinstate what had come before and nothing more. The barons, earls etc. Had always been in a precarious arrangement in the eyes of the common man, along with the king himself. Not sure about this “obsolete class”, the fact that these “armies” were organised because they were funded and equipped by the state. The fact they were rounded up by merit of them being good warriors implies they were professionally organised. You seem to be falling too short in your time frame here, because have you looked up the de-socialising and private enclosure after the civil war because thats when it really started. Can you post your sources please thanks for the video
I agree with your general points, but I would use legal history to question the validity of Magna Carta and its veneration (almost literally, given there is a copy in Salisbury Cathedral).
On the other hand, circumstance in 1290 where a lot different than now, however, intend is what matter strategy is what is the best and most efficient method to achieve evolution, considering overpopulation. In 1290 there was a problem of overpopulation, ethics and understanding, today the analogies with the ancient Celts makes more sense than democracy; in other words, the old Celtic Breton Goths remain the best spiritual way to cohabitate. And whatever culture there existed from the Roman era and Greek philosophers becomes obsolete. Better say the collapse of the Roman Empire. Roman Empire, concepts becomes the barbaric action of civilization shown in the 21 centuries. Einstein becomes obsolete as the Mayans philosophy becomes the new world. Perhaps this two realms encounter in the past, the Celtic way’s and the Mayans aim..
R Pierce I am neither a socialist nor a capitalist. That's my problem: I say "a plague on both your houses"....because neither school of thought can solve our problems.
+R Pierce Socialists want the rents of capitalists, workers, and land. Georgists only want the rents of the land. You want the rents of workers (Sales tax supporter? Income tax supporter? Support no taxes on capital gains?) I think that's evil.
"...you dont get it given just because you take up space" LOL! You can have your capitalism and all the benefits it has bestowed upon you, but let's not pretend it's a free market.
This is a misleading presentation. I agree with as you say from a Socialist point of view. What he don't say is that the Pope had control of the king and that was why people were charged unfair taxes to be given to Rome. That's what led to the king being forced to sign the Magna Carta And for a time like the Russian Revolution you could use as an example there was a short time in which there was liberty .But the Magna Carta broke the rules of the Pope which led to these unfair conditions that this guy talks about. The Magna Carta broke the rules of the Pope.The King was forced to once again oblige the Pope. They didn't have the English Civil War for nothing it was Parliaments right to have a say in how the country was run without the King being loyal to the Pope having the final say.When they had the Restoration of the Monarchy after Oliver Cromwell passed away both Kings Charles II and then after his death James II tried to run Britain again under the Pope. But then came William of Orange from Amsterdam who defeated James II and wrote the Bill Of Rights in 1689 and they based the American Republics Constitution on that But the Pope and the Private bankers kept trying to overrule the constitutions and they had success on the British Stock Exchange after the Battle Of Waterloo and after the American Civil War and creation of the Federal Reserve and eventually the EU etc. Brexit seems to be the most significant thing in modern history and people should understand that the EU is signing people over to Privatisation.
sometimes is difficult to rationalize what is proper improper, i feel that what is missing is critical thinking. and the lot needs some input so they achieve critical thinking, otherwise as technology evolves unexpected reactions can take place and reasoning is overcome by emotions. better have a magna carta for the web. .....since is the new medium of communication.
Don't make me laugh! I haven't watched it yet, so second message to follow, but it looks as if 1215 to now didn't include the development of democracy? We need Magna Carta, our written constitution, and a non-legal (which is why it is so important) BINDING document in 2023, to facilitate the saving of the spirit as well as the letter of what a democracy is, and therefore to save the liberties, and therefore responsibilities that go hand in hand with this, of the individual.
I understand the argument made here and the dangers of a militant adminstrative class, regardless of time. However, I can't help feel the larger meaning surrounding the document is that is was indeed a check on the kingdom, and by proxy the national state. While the people living in any particular province may have very little sway over enforcing their rights against the tyranny of a sovereign, they do have much more control over issues pertaining to their immediate locale. I can't imagine a Baron of a disaffected populace will be Baron for very long. Either local revolt, organized criminality, losses of incomes, disdain of clergy and/or peers will follow no doubt. Or some combination. I think it's a very rudimentary document, and it is understandable that the authors didn't intend to champion enlightenment era ideals centuries before the enlightenment even began. All in good time afterall. As for the Virginians. Well considering how much territory the original charter included and how much territory Virginians intentionally ceded from it, their actions speak for themselves. Thomas Jefferson, and his vision for The United States that was eventually was rejected, called for a very natural approach to growth of the nation. One that models growth in nature, not that he knew it (mitosis). An empire of liberty, that exists in a perpetual state of peaceful division amongst itself, so as to preserve the ratio of population to government. It's sad that the Hamiltonian approach, one that was modeled after the very same British Empire the revolutionaries fought against, was eventually accepted. Thankfully Hamilton that smug bastard would not live to see it.
@@matthewhastings2568 Yes! At its best it's hero worship. At its worst it's a bunch of effeminate African Americans dancing around. Either way, Hamilton is immortalized for better or worse.
If you paid rent you never owned the land obviously but if you buy or inherit land you have rights regarding that land, for example, I own a house the right of ownership is protected by law what is this idiot on about in the 13th-century peasants did not own land the nobility did and this is what the manga Carta protected
I am a retired judge with 26 years experience on the bench. I have also worked as a defense attorney and a prosecutor for the state. Your rediculous comments show a complete and utter lack of understanding of the Magna Carta. It has an enormous impact today in all common law courts and is the basis for the concept of due process of law. I cannot believe you had thad temerity to make your rediculous statements about Magna Carta. In my opinion, either totally unimformed or disingenuous.
Synthèse remarquable. Surtout venant d'un Anglais. En effet cela semble être la pure réalité et le précurseur du déchaînement ultralibéral pour ne pas dire anglo-saxon qui frappe toute la planète désormais. Mais ailleurs, comme en France par exemple, la révolution française n'est elle pas au peuple Français ce que la Magna Carta est au peuple Anglais, à savoir, un instrument de spoliation des ressources d'un système particulier impérieux au mépris de l'intérêt général et du commun ? En d'autres termes, la victoire des lions et du ténia sur le troupeau de gnous ? Parasites et prédateurs unis contre et sur le dos de la bête ? Pourquoi cette calamité a-t-elle pu proliférer aussi puissamment en Angleterre ? En tout cas on cherche toujours le vermifuge à l'aube où l'occident implose au ralenti sur l'hymne de " la liberté pour moi, l'esclavage pour les autres" ! Quant aux peuples il faut être fort dans sa tête ou vraiment détester le libéralisme pour leur trouver de l'empathie...
Your statements are incongruous. "Eroding of personal liberty " and "Desocialization of lands" are polar opposites. I guess your conclusions are sound if you believe in Socialism. More power to you. In the United States, the Declaration of Independence has no force of law, but the Constitution does. And the Constitution DOES guarantee the rights of Life, Liberty, and Property (5th amendment).
This man (if you can call him that) is a liar!! No doubt a Marxist ass hole. The great charter is totally opposite to what he is informing you!! Read and digest yourself and you will see he is so full of shit!!
What a communist historiography. As if preserving the rights of aristocracy and the Church against socialization and centralization were somehow bad...lol. Magna Carta was written by Abp. Stephen Langton of Canterbury, and it conformed to Catholic principles except for article 61 (the “lawful rebellion clause”). Because of Article 61, the Pope annulled the 1215 Magna Carta which was his right because Bad King John had previously pledged England as a fief to the Holy See; so, as overlord, the Pope was legally entitled to do so and, also, morally obliged. Magna Carta had to be reïssued later with revisions. Catechism of the Catholic Church: 1882 Certain societies, such as the family and the state, correspond more directly to the nature of man; they are necessary to him. To promote the participation of the greatest number in the life of a society, the creation of voluntary associations and institutions must be encouraged "on both national and international levels, which relate to economic and social goals, to cultural and recreational activities, to sport, to various professions, and to political affairs." This "socialization" also expresses the natural tendency for human beings to associate with one another for the sake of attaining objectives that exceed individual capacities. It develops the qualities of the person, especially the sense of initiative and responsibility, and helps guarantee his rights. 1883 Socialization also presents dangers. Excessive intervention by the state can threaten personal freedom and initiative. The teaching of the Church has elaborated the principle of subsidiarity, according to which "a community of a higher order should not interfere in the internal life of a community of a lower order, depriving the latter of its functions, but rather should support it in case of need and help to co- ordinate its activity with the activities of the rest of society, always with a view to the common good." 1884 God has not willed to reserve to himself all exercise of power. He entrusts to every creature the functions it is capable of performing, according to the capacities of its own nature. This mode of governance ought to be followed in social life. The way God acts in governing the world, which bears witness to such great regard for human freedom, should inspire the wisdom of those who govern human communities. They should behave as ministers of divine providence. 1885 The principle of subsidiarity is opposed to all forms of collectivism. It sets limits for state intervention. It aims at harmonizing the relationships between individuals and societies. It tends toward the establishment of true international order. “Absolutism, whether intellectual or political, is the capital sin against the hierarchical method. Usurpation, by one of the terms in the system, of the liberties of the others.” -Don Colacho’s Aphorisms #1,701
This guy is fool. Equal rents of the land means equal weath distribution. Sounds fantastic..... oh wait.... they tried that in the USSR. They are still trying it in North Korea. IT NEVER WORKS
It worked 5000 years ago in a little place called Mesopotamia, the king granted you a plot and your job was the show up at the seasonal harvest with barley so that everybody got to drink beer, today your sole remaining "Natural Right", not rights, is the right to a very private death under a bridge, or better yet post Covid 9/11, we will just inject your ass into an early grave, mission accomplished
Your words about the magma carta as the dooming or negative turning point are almost the opposite of how I see it? Magna Carta did a terrific job sewing seeds of liberty. Protecting rights is cake compared to protecting true liberty. Regardless of whatever natural rights are or whatever, western societies are founded on principles of liberty (a limit on state power). And while Locke and TJ made poetry of this stuff by the revolutionary war, Magna Carta was liberty’s first real mic drop moment in recent history, that I can see? Def wasn’t a perfect doc overall! But lots of great moments to plant roots into privacy rights, private property rights, a completely independent judiciary, free and fair markets, and lots more. Anyway, just my two cents :) 🇺🇸❤️
I truly feel sorry for Fred Harrison. He tried so hard to explain to people in the simplest terms possible why they are slaves. And yet they still never got it. What a cruel joke it all must feel like for him. One day, Fred, your dream will be realized. One day people will awaken.
Magna Carta enshrined the notion of a ruling class. Kings are not born. They are human, and all humans should have equal rights, therefore his interpretation is the correct one. All humans should benefit the same amount from the rent of the land.
The majority of the time I feel like I'm been pissed on without the courtesy of calling it rain. We live in a world full of greed and with a desire to control mankind through the implementation of banking systems and taxation. Lets face it the majority of us are slaves to money, we cant live without it and we are encouraged to get ourselves into debt! I'd rather live in a world that I could live off my own hard work rather than contribute to someone else's wealth. The gap between rich and poor is too much; in recent events Kim Kardashian has been robbed £5.2m worth a jewellery which is headline news...I couldn't earn enough money before tax's to buy £5.2m worth of jewellery in 100 years yet there's people out there with enough of it to throw around frivolously while we are up to our eyes in debt!! Spread the wealth and stop trying to fck us over and kill us off!!!
Age's criminal entities use the function of money to rob from the people their "fruits of labor". With consent of the people, so who is to blame?
The people have always had the power ... Look up article 61 Magna Carta.
It is our duty to stand in lawful rebellion. Ignore this at your peril
And never needed more than today in 2020
Do you read Latin? If not then how do you know what is written in it?
I admire and have great respect for Mr. Fred Harrison; I can wash his very educational documentaries all day if I could. Very well presented, very astute, informative, in depth and a great narrator voice to boot
Excellent Report Thank you!
We Are The ONLY Species That Pays To Live On Earth
Because of money!
We also pay in lives! I just wish we had something that vaguely represents equality!
Jacquie Walton - Some other species are territorial and fight over the right to live on a particular piece of land.
Magna carta is the best gift that man gave to man and we are destroying it and each other with it. If we keep dissecting life then life is not worth living something has to change.
Our livestock pay with their flesh.
"The right to estate" means the right to BUY land from someone else and having it protected from robbers(private or part of the state) rather than the right to have land given to you for free.
The rights refer to the things other people are not allowed to do to you(Kill you,rob you,etc) rather than what other people own you(give you free stuff).
Soooo......we're getting free land? There's not going to be forms or anything we need to fill out right?
"Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it."
Edmund Burke
Funny btch. Is there any way of following the destruction of your comments?
Perfect for when I need a laugh. It's a while until the next election.
Amazing. I came to the same conclusion about the Magna Carta independently less than 1 month ago. Thank you for adding this video.
Meaning that you didn't understand it.
OK, I live in Thailand, no one who is not Thai can buy land. I also speak to my friends from China, who cannot own land, they can buy a house but it is still the government's land. Then you have my country that sells land and houses to the Chinese, Pakistani, Arabian, any country. Is it the same in Japan? Is it the same in any other country who has an idea of who owns that place? How can it be right that a country the size of China will not sell their land to the people, yet, a country the size of England will sell their land to that country. I love the Chinese, the Chinese are not a problem for me, but if you have a weak government who is in bed with the Saudi's this is what happens.
This makes absolute sense. "IXXI" is an ancient stone carving of the elite, if folded centrally, (vertically or horizontally) it forms a mirror image. You now know how world power works! The OPPOSITE is the TRUTH!!!
IXXI also means 9,11 in roman numerals. Ring any bells?
Revelation 9:11
They had as king over them the angel of the Abyss, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon and in Greek is Apollyon (that is, Destroyer).
Everybody in power is related to this king John. All the US president (except 1) and all English royals. Creepy.
The Rich do the least, pay the least, but get the most. The Poor do the most, pay the most, but get the least. The more things change, the more things stay the same.
Stats and documentation please.
Darrell Hardt You'll find it all in the Library listed under the heading; History
+Itsmeeman1 "pay the least"? really?
The top 10% pay 70% of all income tax.
How is this considered "pay the least"?
mercatus.org/publication/tax-burden-among-varying-income-percentiles
Isaac Dorfman Google Tax evasion, off-shore banking, government lobbyists, corrupt politicians and wake up to the real world
Itsmeeman1
According to Wikipedia the spending of the US government in 2014 was 3.504$ trillion.
That means that the income from taxes of the government was also around 3.5$ trillion.
If we divide this by the number of Americans between the ages of 15-64(212,984,598 people) we get that the average American(including the unemployed) pays 16,451$ annually.
Do you really think that people from the bottom 50% actually pay that much?
*This comment is only about Federal taxes.
I take it then that the world is worse off today than in 1215, when "...modern European civilization went wrong..."?
His interpretation of the effect of Magna Carta seem unrealistic to me. Societies require governments because that is the nature of humanity especially in modern times. Private property is a part of what humans have fought for since the dawn of time.
The whole point of this video is to explain how the system of strong central government that represents the people has been undermined by the feudal system of Lords and oligarchs. "Private property is a part of what humans have fought for since the dawn of time." Do you ever ask yourself who owns the land and property? The rich don't want their privilege to be taxed away, they prefer to steal your economic surplus.
"Private property is a part of what humans fought for since the dawn of time"
Every hunter-gatherer in every hunter-gatherer tribe ever: What's this guy talking about?
That Native Americans had tribal/communal property and Europeans had private property was a major divide in relations between Natives and Europeans in the United States.
Yes land rents paid for the early social services, now they enrich some at the expense of others.
I dont know how you could possibly think that non socialisation of land assets is a bad thing. In the UK it has squashed the desire for exploration and put the power in the hands very large companies. Its basically a foolish thing to prospect, and an even more foolish thing for a land owner to allow it.
needs to be clearer, needs to be more simple to understand- interesting to see how right to land was removed for the USA. Is he saying the King and monarchy should have kept control of the land? not clear what would have happened had magna carta not been agreed on- by the way people are still not enforcing habeus corpus at Guantanamo and in psych hospitals where ppl can be held without trial indefinitely
This is very important
Private property has ironically led to the biggest explosions of statism and erosions of liberty and privacy the world has ever known.
THANKYOU for such a clear explanation. X
This explains why we, in America, do not own the land our house sits on. We "rent" that land from the Vatican via our local governments. Don't pay your rent for five years, the banks come for the house even if it is paid off.
Everything in America is rented. Even if you own your car it needs to have that registration tax, insurance to have that cat is a tax to anybody who can't come up with a 30k CD to use to be self insured, same with property, even if you own your house you need to pay your property tax. They hide tithings as taxes. Taxes is tithes
This man is a communisim. He would perfer state controlled agricultural. That worked well in USSR. Millions starved to death.
Seriously blowing smoke. You can read the translation here.
www.bl.uk/magna-carta/articles/magna-carta-english-translation
Some say that Runnymead was a swamp, impassable to man or steed and in fact full of dead horses who got stuck there. Now where did they meet exactly?
And this smacks of what occurred in the US of A with the 14th amendment.
I think i get what he is trying to say.
Anybody want to break it down for me, in more simple terms, in a couple of paragraphs?
Land value is what people pay to control territory -- in other words, to control other humans' existence. That value belongs to everyone equally as compensation for loss of the right to exist.
If a legal system declares that some people (landlords) get it and others don't, that legal system is declaring that some people have a right to exist and others don't.
@@Ask_a_Geoistthis is bullshit. I used to pay rent. Then I bought a small apartment building. That makes me a business owner. Not someone who removes others’ right to exist. Anyone can do the same thing. Immigrants do this quite frequently, I once met a man who couldn’t read or write who owned and rented out property.
This is why it was just Article 61 of the MG that was invoked, it just relates to our natural rights nothing more, which is why everyone has a duty to stand by it and rebel and if they don't then they should not live here , we done.!!!
Human rights and the rule of law along with nonviolence were the values accepted by the entire civilized world as part of Buddhist mind set called Bodhisattva that was adapted by all subsequent religion and philosophy. The British people whose human rights were trampled upon by the king, sought refuge in Bodhisattva for their liberation. The Magna Carta demanded that the king was subject to the law, but it took a long time (1688) when it was truly implemented, enabling the British change their fortune and that of the whole world.
What a totally bullshit interpretation.
“The English are the only people in the world that will allow the king to be all powerful when he is to do good but tie his hands when he is to do evil.” -Voltaire
The Magna Carta ensured the stability of the realm, it was a community of noblemen that wanted to brake down power and make it more regional than centralised around a king that taxed the hell out of everybody to go on crusades and foreign wars.
Heck, the Magna Carta even enforced the rights of towns to elect their own mayors and observe their traditions. It cleansed the land of foreign mercenaries that terrorised the average man. It returned Welsh and Scottish prisoners back to their homelands. And in the 1225 version it ensured every Englishman regardless of rank, the right to a fair trail and a jury.
There’s nothing wrong with the Magna Carta, it’s one of the very few instances in history where everything about it was positive.
Excellent Commentary!!! I was falsely married under a Marriage Contract that didnot protect me...so YeSsss my Liberties were oppressed! The Justice of the Peace who married me and my exhusband forgot to tell me that the Laws were signed into place by the Gangster/Felon KinG John! Also that the laws were put into powerful Christian men who did not let any peasants nor any women have their sai in the newly formed laws! So YeSsss...the Magna Carta screwed a lot of people!!! Also I am a Spirtual person who has been with the Holy Spirit x2 and I know first hand that no oNe needs a fake Religion to keep control over them!!! Also I would neVer have signed my marriage Contract if I knew that Christians had signed the Laws into place because many of the Rich Christian Nobility were violent slave owners along with their Rich and powerful friends all over the World!!! Power to the People who stand for True Equality and Fairness for Humanity, Our Precious Planet Earth and Nature's lil ones during these trying times!😇
If the Great Magna Carta didn't exist then it wouldn't have mattered, but it did, therefore it matters.
A Marxist critique of Magna Carta, at long last!
+Reid Heller Geoist, not Marxist.
Not following, Marxist, geoist?
Sooo, he is arguing that because the Magna Carta strikes a blow to socialism, that you cannot possible be a free person... To boil down the Magna Carta to this one issue is pretty obtuse thinking. BTW, Come here to America. Anyone can own the land, and there is plenty of it for all classes of people. I guarantee you will pay taxes on it.
The exact logic given for the Magna Carta being bad, could be used to justify it as a good thing, by simply placing the crown of tyranny on the king and the scepter of justice in the hand of the acting barons. Your logic does not stand alone and in alm situations, it is a double edged sword. Your logic could be used against King John, just as easily as against the acting barons, it would just depend on who is the tyrant and who is the champion of justice. You are simply claiming that the barons are the tyrants, operating in greed, whereas history claims King John as the tyrant. This entire history is speculation based on circumstantial evidence and biased claims, yes, but I still choose to believe the Magna Carta was a triumph of justice over an inconsiderate tyrant.
Thank you for some good photography.
What you say stands as a perfect example of the relativity of all human acts.
Nothing can aspire to be absolute because that's an impossible goal to achieve when there aré several & opposed personal interests at Stake.
Thus the chance to bring any number of arguments on any subject.
AND thus the paradoxe of truth according to the rules of lógic: If they stand on valid premises they might all have valid conclussions.
The barons were usurers. From the normal race of usurers.
This is more truth than the main stream and their history books
The Text clearly rescinds taxes that the Crown had already imposed.
Christopher Hartly Holte What exactly are you saying?
Christopher Hartly Holte Maybe, but Fred is correct if you look at where we are today - monopoly in land and natural resources is the root of the inequality, poverty and environmental degradation that we have today, no?
@@smartiepancake Under feudalism, most people had no right to any land at all and were peasants with absolutely no rights. Only a few people owned land, only nobles and the church.
No one else had land, you are confused with what Henry the VIII did, when he took the Church lands, 30% of all the land back then, and sold it on to private individuals. It's an important stage in our later agrarian and then industrial development called "liberalisation of the land" that was still impossible at that time, because land was monopolised, and not by the state, there was no state yet in the definition of the term, but by the church and nobles, private individuals and institutions.
Before that, because of feudalism, most people had no right to any land and were tied to the land. Look up what feudalism is and understand it properly.
That is clearly a lot worse than now, where land ownership is available to anyone that has the money, unlike in feudalism. You need to find better excuses to not want to pay your dues for the roads, streetlights and everything else that you use that was not available back then either.
@@Oscuros If I look up feudalism and understand it properly do you promise to look up Georgism and understand it properly?
@@Oscuros No-one is saying we shouldn't pay taxes because of Magna Carta, but the document is venerated to an absurd degree. The demands of Magna Carta were already common law, legal convention and legal writ. Some of the demands of Magna Carta aren't even relevant to the civil war which brought it about. Basically, Magna Carta is both treasonous and unnecessary.
There is a legacy of Magna Carta and that is shown in the English Civil War of the 17th Century as well as the US War of Independence (although, there are other causes of this), the US Constitution (specifically), the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the European Court of Human Rights, the EU Human Rights legislation and the various human rights organisations (generally).
Bullshit. In 1215 there were two classes of people; nobles and serfs.
"Landlords in Parliament were taxing the wages of the workers" There were no direct taxes on wages in those days because there were no computers. How could you directly tax every person hired to perform a task without laws and technology to enforce each hirer to collect the tax and submit it and each hired to pay the tax?
Poorly - but it could be done.
I imagine on foot ... door to door collections as was deducted at source
A centuries long desocialization of the ownership of land... And it's not a conspiracy theory but this could only be prepared by...
i admire your research and i would love to check out your sources to compare with what ive found, you are obviously looking for truth however one slight issue i do have in-which maybe you could elaborate on. the barons did not lose their rights recieve rents, implimenting common law was far from a selfish act. like you said it was their "estate" not under common law but under lease from the king. they were all under a position of public office and therefore not fully protected by common law but needed to be. Judges were paid by the state to enforce the law, during and after the time of the barons wars however any feudal form of theocratic governance is anti-freedom which is why common law was included into Magna Carta. All it did was attempt to bring the king away from his “colour of law” and reinstate what had come before and nothing more. The barons, earls etc. Had always been in a precarious arrangement in the eyes of the common man, along with the king himself.
Not sure about this “obsolete class”, the fact that these “armies” were organised because they were funded and equipped by the state. The fact they were rounded up by merit of them being good warriors implies they were professionally organised. You seem to be falling too short in your time frame here, because have you looked up the de-socialising and private enclosure after the civil war because thats when it really started.
Can you post your sources please thanks for the video
I agree with your general points, but I would use legal history to question the validity of Magna Carta and its veneration (almost literally, given there is a copy in Salisbury Cathedral).
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Seems to me the king was going full communist and the barons stoped him.
On the other hand,
circumstance in 1290 where a lot different than now, however, intend is what
matter strategy is what is the best and most efficient method to achieve evolution,
considering overpopulation. In 1290 there was a problem of overpopulation, ethics
and understanding, today the analogies with the ancient Celts makes more sense
than democracy; in other words, the old Celtic Breton Goths remain the best
spiritual way to cohabitate. And whatever culture there existed from the Roman
era and Greek philosophers becomes obsolete. Better say the collapse of the Roman Empire. Roman Empire, concepts becomes the barbaric action
of civilization shown in the 21 centuries. Einstein becomes obsolete as the Mayans
philosophy becomes the new world. Perhaps this two realms encounter in the past,
the Celtic way’s and the Mayans aim..
I guess this bloke prefers a ruling royal dictatorship instead.
Thank you!
The Magna Carta from a socialists view.
R Pierce I am neither a socialist nor a capitalist. That's my problem: I say "a plague on both your houses"....because neither school of thought can solve our problems.
+R Pierce Socialists want the rents of capitalists, workers, and land. Georgists only want the rents of the land. You want the rents of workers (Sales tax supporter? Income tax supporter? Support no taxes on capital gains?) I think that's evil.
No privilege & dominion are taken - liberty can only be true liberty if equal and respectful for all
"...you dont get it given just because you take up space"
LOL! You can have your capitalism and all the benefits it has bestowed upon you, but let's not pretend it's a free market.
This is a misleading presentation. I agree with as you say from a Socialist point of view. What he don't say is that the Pope had control of the king and that was why people were charged unfair taxes to be given to Rome. That's what led to the king being forced to sign the Magna Carta And for a time like the Russian Revolution you could use as an example there was a short time in which there was liberty .But the Magna Carta broke the rules of the Pope which led to these unfair conditions that this guy talks about. The Magna Carta broke the rules of the Pope.The King was forced to once again oblige the Pope. They didn't have the English Civil War for nothing it was Parliaments right to have a say in how the country was run without the King being loyal to the Pope having the final say.When they had the Restoration of the Monarchy after Oliver Cromwell passed away both Kings Charles II and then after his death James II tried to run Britain again under the Pope. But then came William of Orange from Amsterdam who defeated James II and wrote the Bill Of Rights in 1689 and they based the American Republics Constitution on that But the Pope and the Private bankers kept trying to overrule the constitutions and they had success on the British Stock Exchange after the Battle Of Waterloo and after the American Civil War and creation of the Federal Reserve and eventually the EU etc. Brexit seems to be the most significant thing in modern history and people should understand that the EU is signing people over to Privatisation.
Good videos mate
sometimes is difficult to rationalize what is proper improper, i feel that what is missing is critical thinking. and the lot needs some input so they achieve critical thinking, otherwise as technology evolves unexpected reactions can take place and reasoning is overcome by emotions. better have a magna carta for the web. .....since is the new medium of communication.
Knight > Samurai
Nuff said!
So at what time did the peasants have a great “free” time?
Why gommunism is so boring?
Don't make me laugh! I haven't watched it yet, so second message to follow, but it looks as if 1215 to now didn't include the development of democracy? We need Magna Carta, our written constitution, and a non-legal (which is why it is so important) BINDING document in 2023, to facilitate the saving of the spirit as well as the letter of what a democracy is, and therefore to save the liberties, and therefore responsibilities that go hand in hand with this, of the individual.
Sounds like The wicked who stooged the King to sign the e~dit to put Daniel in the lion's den 😮
Interesting!
I understand the argument made here and the dangers of a militant adminstrative class, regardless of time. However, I can't help feel the larger meaning surrounding the document is that is was indeed a check on the kingdom, and by proxy the national state. While the people living in any particular province may have very little sway over enforcing their rights against the tyranny of a sovereign, they do have much more control over issues pertaining to their immediate locale.
I can't imagine a Baron of a disaffected populace will be Baron for very long. Either local revolt, organized criminality, losses of incomes, disdain of clergy and/or peers will follow no doubt. Or some combination. I think it's a very rudimentary document, and it is understandable that the authors didn't intend to champion enlightenment era ideals centuries before the enlightenment even began. All in good time afterall.
As for the Virginians. Well considering how much territory the original charter included and how much territory Virginians intentionally ceded from it, their actions speak for themselves. Thomas Jefferson, and his vision for The United States that was eventually was rejected, called for a very natural approach to growth of the nation. One that models growth in nature, not that he knew it (mitosis). An empire of liberty, that exists in a perpetual state of peaceful division amongst itself, so as to preserve the ratio of population to government. It's sad that the Hamiltonian approach, one that was modeled after the very same British Empire the revolutionaries fought against, was eventually accepted. Thankfully Hamilton that smug bastard would not live to see it.
Hamilton was a real baddy, right?
@@matthewhastings2568It's honestly sad my friend. Talk about a dangerous idealouge. Aaron Burr did nothing wrong.
@@DrWongburger a funny thought but do you think the musical ‘Hamilton’ propagates it
@@matthewhastings2568 Yes! At its best it's hero worship. At its worst it's a bunch of effeminate African Americans dancing around. Either way, Hamilton is immortalized for better or worse.
@@DrWongburger interesting take, thank you, sir
Regarding this video I was almost taken in by it and then I saw the hidden... well... Communism!
That sounded pretty grim. :(
Fuck it, I'm going back to feudalism
If you paid rent you never owned the land obviously but if you buy or inherit land you have rights regarding that land, for example, I own a house the right of ownership is protected by law what is this idiot on about in the 13th-century peasants did not own land the nobility did and this is what the manga Carta protected
Evil Royalty. They dessent from PILGRIMS .
Excellent. Exploding a myth.
This dude is basically advocating for serfdom. How did I find this bs?
I am a retired judge with 26 years experience on the bench. I have also worked as a defense attorney and a prosecutor for the state. Your rediculous comments show a complete and utter lack of understanding of the Magna Carta. It has an enormous impact today in all common law courts and is the basis for the concept of due process of law. I cannot believe you had thad temerity to make your rediculous statements about Magna Carta. In my opinion, either totally unimformed or disingenuous.
Are you well?
what is pledged for access to the rents of the kingdom?
Synthèse remarquable. Surtout venant d'un Anglais. En effet cela semble être la pure réalité et le précurseur du déchaînement ultralibéral pour ne pas dire anglo-saxon qui frappe toute la planète désormais. Mais ailleurs, comme en France par exemple, la révolution française n'est elle pas au peuple Français ce que la Magna Carta est au peuple Anglais, à savoir, un instrument de spoliation des ressources d'un système particulier impérieux au mépris de l'intérêt général et du commun ? En d'autres termes, la victoire des lions et du ténia sur le troupeau de gnous ? Parasites et prédateurs unis contre et sur le dos de la bête ? Pourquoi cette calamité a-t-elle pu proliférer aussi puissamment en Angleterre ? En tout cas on cherche toujours le vermifuge à l'aube où l'occident implose au ralenti sur l'hymne de " la liberté pour moi, l'esclavage pour les autres" ! Quant aux peuples il faut être fort dans sa tête ou vraiment détester le libéralisme pour leur trouver de l'empathie...
This guy is looney tunes... "Rents??" You mean taxes, Dude.
Don't you know English? That was the appropriate term for taxes in those days.
Were are King George's slave's
cristal clear
He's telling the truth about this magna carta fraud
1216. One after magna carta
It's actually life liberty and the pursuit of happiness
bulldust
Your statements are incongruous. "Eroding of personal liberty " and "Desocialization of lands" are polar opposites. I guess your conclusions are sound if you believe in Socialism. More power to you.
In the United States, the Declaration of Independence has no force of law, but the Constitution does. And the Constitution DOES guarantee the rights of Life, Liberty, and Property (5th amendment).
BOTH are crazy Evil ......
are u guys all adults
Interesting perspective. However I disagree
The camerawork in this video is so awful
go back to school lol
This video has not aged well
What a bunch of crap
This man (if you can call him that) is a liar!! No doubt a Marxist ass hole. The great charter is totally opposite to what he is informing you!! Read and digest yourself and you will see he is so full of shit!!
What a communist historiography. As if preserving the rights of aristocracy and the Church against socialization and centralization were somehow bad...lol. Magna Carta was written by Abp. Stephen Langton of Canterbury, and it conformed to Catholic principles except for article 61 (the “lawful rebellion clause”). Because of Article 61, the Pope annulled the 1215 Magna Carta which was his right because Bad King John had previously pledged England as a fief to the Holy See; so, as overlord, the Pope was legally entitled to do so and, also, morally obliged. Magna Carta had to be reïssued later with revisions.
Catechism of the Catholic Church:
1882 Certain societies, such as the family and the state, correspond more directly to the nature of man; they are necessary to him. To promote the participation of the greatest number in the life of a society, the creation of voluntary associations and institutions must be encouraged "on both national and international levels, which relate to economic and social goals, to cultural and recreational activities, to sport, to various professions, and to political affairs." This "socialization" also expresses the natural tendency for human beings to associate with one another for the sake of attaining objectives that exceed individual capacities. It develops the qualities of the person, especially the sense of initiative and responsibility, and helps guarantee his rights.
1883 Socialization also presents dangers. Excessive intervention by the state can threaten personal freedom and initiative. The teaching of the Church has elaborated the principle of subsidiarity, according to which "a community of a higher order should not interfere in the internal life of a community of a lower order, depriving the latter of its functions, but rather should support it in case of need and help to co- ordinate its activity with the activities of the rest of society, always with a view to the common good."
1884 God has not willed to reserve to himself all exercise of power. He entrusts to every creature the functions it is capable of performing, according to the capacities of its own nature. This mode of governance ought to be followed in social life. The way God acts in governing the world, which bears witness to such great regard for human freedom, should inspire the wisdom of those who govern human communities. They should behave as ministers of divine providence.
1885 The principle of subsidiarity is opposed to all forms of collectivism. It sets limits for state intervention. It aims at harmonizing the relationships between individuals and societies. It tends toward the establishment of true international order.
“Absolutism, whether intellectual or political, is the capital sin against the hierarchical method.
Usurpation, by one of the terms in the system, of the liberties of the others.”
-Don Colacho’s Aphorisms #1,701
Strange man.
I suppose he understands what he is talking about.
This guy is fool. Equal rents of the land means equal weath distribution. Sounds fantastic..... oh wait.... they tried that in the USSR. They are still trying it in North Korea. IT NEVER WORKS
It worked 5000 years ago in a little place called Mesopotamia, the king granted you a plot and your job was the show up at the seasonal harvest with barley so that everybody got to drink beer, today your sole remaining "Natural Right", not rights, is the right to a very private death under a bridge, or better yet post Covid 9/11, we will just inject your ass into an early grave, mission accomplished
What absolute bullshit. What evidence do you have to back up your claim?
Your words about the magma carta as the dooming or negative turning point are almost the opposite of how I see it?
Magna Carta did a terrific job sewing seeds of liberty. Protecting rights is cake compared to protecting true liberty. Regardless of whatever natural rights are or whatever, western societies are founded on principles of liberty (a limit on state power).
And while Locke and TJ made poetry of this stuff by the revolutionary war, Magna Carta was liberty’s first real mic drop moment in recent history, that I can see?
Def wasn’t a perfect doc overall! But lots of great moments to plant roots into privacy rights, private property rights, a completely independent judiciary, free and fair markets, and lots more.
Anyway, just my two cents :) 🇺🇸❤️
The magna Carta is a crap document for sure, but this guy is full of *hit!