The Pro Max 16 PoE and U7 Pro Max are definitely a bit overkill for the vast majority of home networks, this would be more prosumer than anything (though IK most of us prosumers with Ubiquiti gear end up with a UDM Pro/SE). Personally, I'm waiting for a refreshed UDR I can recommend to friends/family for their homes. If Ubiquit could release a 2.5 GbE capable UDR with on-board WiFi 7 and maybe 2-4 PoE ports with a similar storage system to what the Cloud Gateway Max has for cameras, that'd be the ultra Ubiquiti home network device. A 'UDR Pro Max', if you will.
yep your dead on with those specs for a udr update that is exactly what i would like. or take the cloud gateway max add built in wifi and poe that would also work nicely. its a shame the new cloud gateway max doesnt have poe, i put one in my parents house but its a bit of a messy solution with either a poe switch or poe injectors, two/four poe prots would have made for a super clean install.
I like his recommendations as simple and good for many years to come. I was originally waiting for a UDP since still no stock however I like the idea of not being limited to where it would have to sit, vrs AP in the center to best coverage. We are building a new/used home and will be able to run cables for the cameras and door station and not need many ports. Glad I didnt order the UDM as I could get it from Canada however I already have one at our current home as it was the original version years ago.
my favorite small home set up is Gateway Ultra-> TP-LINK unmanaged POE switch and 2-3 U6+ AP’s. perfect for anyone with up to gigabit fiber and can be upgraded with better/newer AP’s as needed. 99% of home networks don’t need a ubiquiti switch. i set my parents and our lakehouse up wish the setup above. parents have gig fiber, and the lake has star link. my personal network is a UDM-SE, USW-Pro-24-POE, 3 Flex mini switches, 4 G5 Bullets, G5 PTZ, G4 pro POE doorbell/poe chime, U6 mesh, and two U7 pro’s.
Just set up my first home Unifi system. I went with the same Cloud Gateway Max No Storage, but figured the Lite 8 POE was going to be enough for me. I power a U6 Pro with the Lite 8 POE, and use three Flex Minis at points throughout the hours where I need to distribute wired connections.
I get that Unifi gear is your go-to, but $877 for a 'small' home network doesn't strike me as a great price, though I guess it depends on how you define value and what you're looking to get out of it. Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to get my hands on some of this stuff to mess around with, but for me, that price point just feels a bit over the top!
Is there any good justification for splurging on the U7 Pro Max? I feel like the difference compared to the regular U7 Pro isn't likely enough for a small home setup. Also heck if you don't need Wifi 7 might even get a good deal on a U6 Pro or U6 Enterprise, which to me feels a lot more cost-effective. Sure the Pro lacks 6 GHz but considering we're talking a /small/ home, you'll likely be in good enough proximity that the 6 GHz speed advantages would hardly matter much. Also, depending on the deal you get, if your home is large enough to warrant it, you might even be able to score two U6 Pros for a similar price to a single U7 Pro Max-then just set them up each in their own corner of the home to provide better coverage.
i have two u6 enterprise, a u7pro and a u7promax there is no appreciable difference in performance from what i can tell just in every day use, maybe in perfect conditions with perfect hardware/rf environment but in general day to day phone/laptop use you wont notice a thing and wont be lusting more performance. my new phone says its connected to wifi7 unifi also reports its wifi7 but it still tends to prefer the 5ghz band mostly even though all my access points are 6ghz capable . realistically within 30-50ft range of an access point its capable of delivering speeds comparable if not faster than wired 1gbps the only real advantage to the u7 pro max is it has a dedicated antenna to scan for conflicting channels where as the others periodically scan for conflicting channels. for the setup at my parents house i used a u6lr and even that provides more than adequate coverage and throughput for their browsing, streaming and grand kids devices etc.
I have a small unifi network at my house with a UCG-max 512gb, u6+, lite 16 poe, flex mini (1gb, planning on getting the flex mini 2.5) and a g5 turret and I am loving it so far although it's expensive and I just want more!
Looking to setup an access point for a small business that's 1500 sq ft. For the 6 GHz (U7 Pro Max) do you still need to setup a separate ssid? I was planning on going with the U6 Pro to keep things simple. Max number of clients would be about 25 on WiFi.
I startet my network with a USW-Pro-Max-24 and now trying to figure out what router to choose. Wifi speeds I will just keep to wifi6 when I buy accesspoints later on cause all machines that need speed is connected with cable anyway. So I sort of want Dream Machine SE to have the option to have some Poe, but not sure how much I will be able to get cables around for it. I have a 24U Rack so rackmountable is no problem. But should I consider the cloud gateway max over the Dream Machine SE? The DM SE looks so much betyer in a rack than a Cloud Gateway Max, but also cost alot more😅
This is a great video, but I feel its overkill for the averge home where very few, if any will be WiFi 7 devices, there is likely no need for Access or Conenct displays. This more a small "prosumer" starte kit rather than something the average home would need.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the U7 AP's are not compatible with the protect all-in-one sensors as they don't have Bluetooth. This kind of limits the "Protect" application to basically cameras.
Including a Pro Max 16 PoE switch is pretty punchy IMHO. For a small home network it'd be quite a hard sell in comparison to an Ultra 60W for anyone who isn't a complete technophile (I'd love one to add to my newly installed UCGMax!). Here in the UK it is really quite rare for homes to have any ethernet cabling unless built within the last five years. It's getting better and as soon as I hear there are plans for a home refurb I'll tell them to cable up wherever possible. Most clients don't get quite so excited about flashy lights on a switch as we do! 😆
I imagine he only included the Pro Max 16 PoE switch for the 2.5GbE uplink required by the U7 Pro Max. You're right though, the average home user would be plenty happy with the much cheaper gigabit switches and WAP, such as the Lite 8 PoE or Ultra 60W with a U6+ or U6 Mesh. Ubiquiti's current lineup simply does not justify the bump in price from gigabit to 2.5GbE for home users right now (though the Flex Mini 2.5G is a step in the right direction). He might consider $800 a great value to get into the Ubiquiti ecosystem but if I told the average home user that cost compared to their existing cheap router, they'd flip out. I have Ubiquiti pro gear at home and I love it, but I'm a technophile, it's not a setup I'd recommend to friends or family. For that, I'm anxiously awaiting a refreshed UDR, as that's way more home friendly for most people.
@@DanWalshTV I agree. I just managed to sell on my UDR to a client with an AP and a basic switch. Beyond that clients tend to baulk when compared the freebie router they are given by the ISP (even when I tell them they'd see me less if they went more Unifi!).
Ha - this is very close to my “travel network”. UCG-Max + PoE injector + U7-Pro-max. I take this to every AirBnB now to replace the “house WiFi” I almost got the UCI- Cable Internet…but need to cut myself off at some point. Right?
small home network....with a single rack mounted switch and the highest priced U7 ap?.....really? :) If you're buying for a small home network....i'd think the U7 pro and the Lite 8 PoE sufficient at a fraction of the cost for vast majority of use cases, no?
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Unifi addiction is costing me more than a drug habit
😂 I feel that !
Haha, yes! I just dipped my foot in the pond with a dream wall, haha...and im jonesing for more...
So far, my addiction has subsided, but seems it’s always ready to start again :)
I’m working a lot of overtime this month to partially pay for all the unifi gear I bought
The Pro Max 16 PoE and U7 Pro Max are definitely a bit overkill for the vast majority of home networks, this would be more prosumer than anything (though IK most of us prosumers with Ubiquiti gear end up with a UDM Pro/SE).
Personally, I'm waiting for a refreshed UDR I can recommend to friends/family for their homes. If Ubiquit could release a 2.5 GbE capable UDR with on-board WiFi 7 and maybe 2-4 PoE ports with a similar storage system to what the Cloud Gateway Max has for cameras, that'd be the ultra Ubiquiti home network device. A 'UDR Pro Max', if you will.
yep your dead on with those specs for a udr update that is exactly what i would like. or take the cloud gateway max add built in wifi and poe that would also work nicely. its a shame the new cloud gateway max doesnt have poe, i put one in my parents house but its a bit of a messy solution with either a poe switch or poe injectors, two/four poe prots would have made for a super clean install.
I like his recommendations as simple and good for many years to come. I was originally waiting for a UDP since still no stock however I like the idea of not being limited to where it would have to sit, vrs AP in the center to best coverage. We are building a new/used home and will be able to run cables for the cameras and door station and not need many ports. Glad I didnt order the UDM as I could get it from Canada however I already have one at our current home as it was the original version years ago.
I agree the video setup is overkill but the UDR is dated. I'd just a grab a UCM, POE inj and a U6 Pro.
my favorite small home set up is Gateway Ultra-> TP-LINK unmanaged POE switch and 2-3 U6+ AP’s. perfect for anyone with up to gigabit fiber and can be upgraded with better/newer AP’s as needed. 99% of home networks don’t need a ubiquiti switch.
i set my parents and our lakehouse up wish the setup above. parents have gig fiber, and the lake has star link.
my personal network is a UDM-SE, USW-Pro-24-POE, 3 Flex mini switches, 4 G5 Bullets, G5 PTZ, G4 pro POE doorbell/poe chime, U6 mesh, and two U7 pro’s.
Just set up my first home Unifi system. I went with the same Cloud Gateway Max No Storage, but figured the Lite 8 POE was going to be enough for me. I power a U6 Pro with the Lite 8 POE, and use three Flex Minis at points throughout the hours where I need to distribute wired connections.
I get that Unifi gear is your go-to, but $877 for a 'small' home network doesn't strike me as a great price, though I guess it depends on how you define value and what you're looking to get out of it. Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to get my hands on some of this stuff to mess around with, but for me, that price point just feels a bit over the top!
Is there any good justification for splurging on the U7 Pro Max? I feel like the difference compared to the regular U7 Pro isn't likely enough for a small home setup. Also heck if you don't need Wifi 7 might even get a good deal on a U6 Pro or U6 Enterprise, which to me feels a lot more cost-effective. Sure the Pro lacks 6 GHz but considering we're talking a /small/ home, you'll likely be in good enough proximity that the 6 GHz speed advantages would hardly matter much. Also, depending on the deal you get, if your home is large enough to warrant it, you might even be able to score two U6 Pros for a similar price to a single U7 Pro Max-then just set them up each in their own corner of the home to provide better coverage.
i have two u6 enterprise, a u7pro and a u7promax there is no appreciable difference in performance from what i can tell just in every day use, maybe in perfect conditions with perfect hardware/rf environment but in general day to day phone/laptop use you wont notice a thing and wont be lusting more performance.
my new phone says its connected to wifi7 unifi also reports its wifi7 but it still tends to prefer the 5ghz band mostly even though all my access points are 6ghz capable . realistically within 30-50ft range of an access point its capable of delivering speeds comparable if not faster than wired 1gbps the only real advantage to the u7 pro max is it has a dedicated antenna to scan for conflicting channels where as the others periodically scan for conflicting channels.
for the setup at my parents house i used a u6lr and even that provides more than adequate coverage and throughput for their browsing, streaming and grand kids devices etc.
I'm running a U6+ and it covers my entire house.
I have a small unifi network at my house with a UCG-max 512gb, u6+, lite 16 poe, flex mini (1gb, planning on getting the flex mini 2.5) and a g5 turret and I am loving it so far although it's expensive and I just want more!
This is exactly what I have for the past 2 months and it’s been rock-solid
Bought a new house a few months ago ... the wife thinks I spent more money on Unifi equipment for the new house than on renovations 😂
Great video Cody! 🎉 Super helpful on what equipment to use for a small home network on a budget
Looking to setup an access point for a small business that's 1500 sq ft. For the 6 GHz (U7 Pro Max) do you still need to setup a separate ssid? I was planning on going with the U6 Pro to keep things simple. Max number of clients would be about 25 on WiFi.
Would be great to hear more about the security and app blocking or vpn options . Great video.
I have a UDM pro a USW POE 24 and U6-LR and some unifi G5 bullet.
I am thinking of the same setup but I want to buy U7pro wall and U7 pro. Do you think the two can work together?
this is great information
am really getting adicted to unify equipment.
Do cloud gateway max manages the routing part too? DHCP, NAT? thanks!
I startet my network with a USW-Pro-Max-24 and now trying to figure out what router to choose. Wifi speeds I will just keep to wifi6 when I buy accesspoints later on cause all machines that need speed is connected with cable anyway.
So I sort of want Dream Machine SE to have the option to have some Poe, but not sure how much I will be able to get cables around for it.
I have a 24U Rack so rackmountable is no problem.
But should I consider the cloud gateway max over the Dream Machine SE?
The DM SE looks so much betyer in a rack than a Cloud Gateway Max, but also cost alot more😅
Do you know which NVMe works in the max? I bought mine without storage too and just ordered the tray.
Is the speed limit per device or all devices on that network?¿
This is a great video, but I feel its overkill for the averge home where very few, if any will be WiFi 7 devices, there is likely no need for Access or Conenct displays. This more a small "prosumer" starte kit rather than something the average home would need.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the U7 AP's are not compatible with the protect all-in-one sensors as they don't have Bluetooth. This kind of limits the "Protect" application to basically cameras.
Can you mount 7 Pro AP on the wall?
thanks for the update
Including a Pro Max 16 PoE switch is pretty punchy IMHO. For a small home network it'd be quite a hard sell in comparison to an Ultra 60W for anyone who isn't a complete technophile (I'd love one to add to my newly installed UCGMax!). Here in the UK it is really quite rare for homes to have any ethernet cabling unless built within the last five years. It's getting better and as soon as I hear there are plans for a home refurb I'll tell them to cable up wherever possible. Most clients don't get quite so excited about flashy lights on a switch as we do! 😆
I imagine he only included the Pro Max 16 PoE switch for the 2.5GbE uplink required by the U7 Pro Max. You're right though, the average home user would be plenty happy with the much cheaper gigabit switches and WAP, such as the Lite 8 PoE or Ultra 60W with a U6+ or U6 Mesh. Ubiquiti's current lineup simply does not justify the bump in price from gigabit to 2.5GbE for home users right now (though the Flex Mini 2.5G is a step in the right direction).
He might consider $800 a great value to get into the Ubiquiti ecosystem but if I told the average home user that cost compared to their existing cheap router, they'd flip out. I have Ubiquiti pro gear at home and I love it, but I'm a technophile, it's not a setup I'd recommend to friends or family. For that, I'm anxiously awaiting a refreshed UDR, as that's way more home friendly for most people.
@@DanWalshTV I agree. I just managed to sell on my UDR to a client with an AP and a basic switch. Beyond that clients tend to baulk when compared the freebie router they are given by the ISP (even when I tell them they'd see me less if they went more Unifi!).
Why do we need pro devices for home network ? Your proposition is sexy but maybe oversized for a home network ? What do you think ?
I think it’s a bit OTT. That AP and Switch will be heavily underutilised but it looks cool. But hey, it’s the start of an expensive “hobby”
Can you add a UNVR to this setup?
Sure why not. The unvr runs Unifi protect application directly on it
Ha - this is very close to my “travel network”. UCG-Max + PoE injector + U7-Pro-max.
I take this to every AirBnB now to replace the “house WiFi”
I almost got the UCI- Cable Internet…but need to cut myself off at some point. Right?
Dream Machine Pro, USW 16 port switch, Lite AP.
Lets buy a 400 switch and a 300 ap..
This is for a prosumer
lol u7 pro max for home? seems like major overkill
small home network....with a single rack mounted switch and the highest priced U7 ap?.....really? :) If you're buying for a small home network....i'd think the U7 pro and the Lite 8 PoE sufficient at a fraction of the cost for vast majority of use cases, no?
I think you're way off on your budget for home
@@kirksteinklauber260 I think it’s reasonable. You go to Costco and get a “wifi 7 mesh” unifi that cost $1000