I could like the panoramic view but they killed the iDrive button. I don't like reaching for touch screen controls and getting finger prints on the display if I don't have to... Also the panoramic view is a very french way to make a car, and does not look good, there is no design just a screen and that steering wheel is stupid and very ugly, has way too many buttons, capacitive buttons it looks like. The Neue Klasse also looks like a Peugeot / BMW 2002-ish car. Looks horrible, I have no hopes for the G50 3-series. The french can't make cars BMW, you can so why do this shit?
@@Александр-з2р6щ so despite lesser cost of manufacturing the touch buttons... I have to pay more for the actual car?! How does that make any sense if everything is downsized and cost-cut?
They posted elsewhere that the buttons are actually buttons - they're just a single unit with some digital tech behind it (lights, haptics), so they're not the VW-style touch ones.
No one is asking for this… Seriously the controls for the heated seats should be BUTTONS! not an even smaller touchpoint on a screen! BMW needs to listen to its customers!
Screens are cheaper to manufacture than buttons but they can sell the screen as a "premium" feature. Lower expenses, higher profits. That's all you need to know. They know we want buttons for key features, like climate, seat heaters, audio, etc... But they don't care.
@@jh5kl Yes, the shift from physical buttons to screens in automobiles is largely driven by cost considerations, among other factors. Here’s an overview of why this is happening: Cost of Production Economies of Scale with Screens: Screens, particularly touchscreen displays, are now mass-produced at scale, reducing their per-unit cost. Manufacturers can use the same screen design across multiple vehicle models, cutting costs further. Physical buttons require individual design, manufacturing, assembly, and wiring for each button or control, which can be more labor-intensive and expensive compared to integrating everything into a single screen. Simplified Assembly: A touchscreen reduces the complexity of a car's interior assembly. With fewer physical components, automakers save on production time and labor costs. Software Flexibility: Screens allow for software-based updates and changes, eliminating the need to retool physical parts for different functions or upgrades. This adaptability is a cost-saving advantage over the lifecycle of a car model.
YESSSSS!!!!!! BUTTONS, BUTTONS, BUTTONS, BUTTONS, BUTTONS. How many times do the customers have to tell the designers what we want? What we demand! To push shiny black cheap-looking plastic (make that crappy-and-cheap-looking plastic) at us and expect us to like it? That's what the IX is. What are they thinking? We don't need fingerprint mess all over the shiny black cheap plastic as our new way of life. We don't need a hole in the middle of the headrest, rimmed with a plastic frame, creating a hazard in a crash situation. We also don't need a light show inside our cars. A good driver is a focused driver. Quit trying to distract us with every gimmick and bauble under the sun. That whole tech-sound Hans Zimmer thing is a disaster. We should at least be able to opt out so we don't have to waste our money on BMW's mistake making that thing. AND FOR PETE'S SAKE, GET RIDE OF GLASS ROOFS!!! IN COLD WEATHER, THEY MAKE THE CAR COLDER. IN HOT WEATHER, THEY MAKE THE CAR HOTTER. THEY ARE A BAAAAADDDD IDEA!!!
That is SO true! I had that problem driving the BMW IX. The heads-up display cannot be seen when wearing polarized sunglasses. The BMW design team needs to address that. Otherwise, they are requiring us to drive blind, which is dangerous. It simply has to be said: Physical buttons and round steering wheels have WORKED for a century-plus. These wacky shaped steering wheels and non-physical buttons have all been 100% failures, across the board. Who are they trying to fool? We drivers know in an instant that these new things are worse than what we've all had our whole lives. This is NOT how you make customers stick with you. It is how you drive them away.
@@TheJoanRuth YES, it works with polarized sunglasses, it's a different display tech from regular HUD. The steering wheel now will have haptic feedback buttons (just like MacBook touchpads) which are indistinguishable in use from physical buttons but can "disappear" from view if needed, also they will have physical cutouts so it's easy to push them without looking.
Automotive industry will never stop with cutting manufacturing prices and lowering quality. Touch screens, capacitive buttons and gloss black is cheap. They will just tell you that it is what customers want, that it is digital, that it is the future and all that crap that follows… Trust your instincts and common sense, not their miserable marketing message. I agree however that it looks cool and since it is made by BMW I will trust it much more than anything coming from VW group. Thank you Horatiu for your clever interview and your deep knowledge of BMW (from a loyal BMW customer).
I would be OK with touch buttons if I could see on the windshield what exactly I am touching right now, so I can quickly swipe across all touch areas and choose the right option with a double tap without breaking my attention from the road ahead. Eyes on the road in the sports cars are necessary even if I want to change the temperature!
They killed the buttons on the phones already, don't you get it that they don't want them to be killed in the car as well? The battle of the phone buttons has been lost long time ago...
We don't, because it's illegal for a reason. Also it's pretty difficult to fit great knobs and buttons for UX on a device you put in your pocket, but in a car you have all the space in the world for a great UX, still they just throw it away.
How is the main screen oriented for right hand drive and how is the screen layout? Is it flipped? Does the UX team run this in right hand drive mode too? - just see how good you are trying to use your non-dominant hand on the touch screen all the time. Physical buttons please not touch screens.
BMW UI Meeting Assignment: Design me a new screen UI: Draws a box Boss: Doesn't looks nice and a good UI UI: Tilt the box to the left Boss: Send it out to production
Looks promising, disappointed with lack of driver’s gauges that mimics analog gauges. Without that it reminds me of 1985 Toyota Cressida digital cluster
Yeah I don´t know about the touch panels on the steering wheel, like so many others in the comments. Everybody is complaining about it, the critics as well as the customers. VW had them, customers disliked them and VW listend and went back to buttons with the next generation. So many people said that the steering wheel in the new 5 and i5 are quit good BECAUSE they have buttons under the panel. Why does BMW what everybody dislike? I mean the previous generation wheels had such a nice button layout, it looked so well integrated in the previous models.
I’ve been using iDrive 8.5 and rarely touch anything. The car knows when to heat/cool my seat. It knows my preferred climate, seat settings, etc. Other than music selections, I rarely touch the screen. I think this looks really good.
@@bmwblog since BMW still makes temperatures depend on outer situation instead of inside. Example: My steering wheel shall warm up when the steering wheel is cold, not when it is cold outside, after I just shopped and got back into the car. Similar for seat heating. That doesn't mean I at times want to override that logic and wish to have a warm steering wheel when I didn't wear gloves, or wish to have some soothing in my back after efforts. ;)
ugggg… no weird display shape. An answer to a question no one asked. If you must put everything on a screen can you at least give us a standard shape, and at least a few physical buttons on the wheel? At a minimum. I really wanted to upgrade from our old i3, but it looks like we will wait a bit longer till they can find some common sense. Maybe we will just get a Cadillac, at least they understand the idea of physical buttons and elegance.
I hope my current BMW can last for 40 years. This is something I dont whant. The current system are bad but this was worce. Try to use it on a uneven road.
bmw is officially dead. I hear more and more people switching to Audi as the last harbor of what used to be user ergonomics. How is it possible that such brand as bmw handed over cockpit design to yesterdays graduates who have no idea about user ergonomics and usability? They are just coping everything from chinese brands, but even that they are doing very poorly and childishly naive - let's sprinkle lot of colors around the dashboard as it looks so much fun and unicorny
It would be a night with dynamic ambient light based on driving conditions and environment. Ex blue and white lights tip-tap like rain in a wet storm with flowing graphics that follow the content of the window, such as passing objects/signs on that side as well in the car.
Not sure if BMW's strategy of pleasing the Chinese is the right one to follow. It's understandable they want to appease their biggest market but in the process they've forgotten about the rest of the world market. Now here's the kicker the Chinese seems to embracing their own manufacturers cos they are good at making gimmicks more and more will learn the hard way with their Chinese first strategy. We need physical controls not these gimmicks of my modes. Go back to idrive 7 and improve from there atleast for ice cars as for electric cars not much care really. The Idrive 7 was the last good os that was universally praised by everyone as the best everything went downhill from 8+ too distracting complicated
@@jh5kl actually it would, if you replaced the current buttons on smarts phones, the power button, the volume controls and the alert slide with a bunch of touch buttons it will feel cheaper.
Imagine paying millions of dollars to designers just to have a clustered steering wheel with capacitive buttons. I just want to drive the damn car not deal with the damn user interface
Honestly it feels like a big step backwards in user experience. Now information is spread out over the entire width of the windscreen instead of straight ahead behind the steering wheel. All physical controls that are great to interact with, especially when you are driving are replaced with touch dito which not only are a worse UX but also feels cheaper to interact with.
We need to see it in real life. But keep in mind, the speed and essential info, it's really right above the steering wheel. I would argue that's easy to see
Do these "designers" ever drive cars with these designs? It looks like they double down on features that people hate with passion. Meanwhile, you probably still cannot see half of these screens and projections when you wear polarizing glasses.
What a bunch of BS. None of this is ergonomic. It's just a ton of distractions so they can upsell "driving assistants". WTF BMW? How expensive will replacing a cracked windshield be with all these projections probably requiring special treatment on the windshield? How readable will this be in sunlight with sunroof open? Reaction to polarized sunglasses? We're not buying screens on wheels BMW, we want CARS! Useless, useless stuff...
Customers: We want reasonably priced, easy to use, quality, reliable cars with intuitive phisical controls. Car company: Here is a very expensive, very complicated car made in the very cheapest way possible that will last about a week longer than the warranty and we've put all controls in screens. Customer hates the car. Car company makes surprised Pikachu face!
Actually, I love this new Idrive X. But my last BMW didn't even have a screen, and loved that too. Glad to miss all the versions with an iPad instrument cluster.
It's such a HUGE disappointment to see beloved, reliable, well-designed BMW go down the same disastrous path as Tesla. I currently drive a Tesla and a BMW. It is no contest. That horrible center iPad-like screen having everything and then no stalks on the steering wheel is a MASSIVE mistake that Tesla made. Drivers truly do need to be able to FEEL where the turn signal is. It is NOT appropriate to use an iPad or steering-wheel buttons for that. All I can say to the reader is this: Every BMW enthusiast needs to buy their next car BEFORE Neue Klasse hits the market, and then keep that car for as long as they possibly can. Maybe by the time those cars die, BMW will have learned the error of non-round steering wheels, no-stalk steering columns, and iPads in the center. Physical buttons cannot be beaten. We NEED them. Not want. NEED. To BMW designers. Go buy yourself a Tesla and try to live with that. It's not fun. Just trying to open the glovebox turns into a hunt-on-the-iPad quest. Not fun. The one thing Tesla truly does right is to use an air filter that is as wide as the car. That thing pulls all smells out of the car in an instant. Adopt THAT! It's great.
The center display is an ergonomic display? Piano black touch screens on the wheel.... ugh OLED center screen? Because my 2024 iDrive 8 bended screen is not, and it is straining when driving in Scandinavian winter darkness. One cannot dim the screens enough. Yeah, I switch off the centre screen often, but it would be refined to have a very well thought of interface for night driving.
The point is people r still buying them. If the majority of us that r complaining bought these cars they would LISTEN...........................................
I don't mind the no button for the center console (A volume button and climate controls would be amazing) , but really the capacitive steering wheel "buttons" are the worst thing ever. just make them actual buttons, or at least put psychical cutout dividers for each button and not just on flat capacitive plate.
The steering wheel now will have haptic feedback buttons (just like MacBook touchpads) which are basically indistinguishable from physical buttons but can be turned off/be invisible if not needed anymore, also they will have physical cutouts so it's easy to push them without looking.
this is weak …. bring back the real BMW, manual gearboxes, physical buttons, analogic style gauge, the steering feel (hydro-electrical servo), the brake sensation . This is what we loved on BMW😢 Keep it original !
I really like the iDrive 8 on my i4 M50, its a good trade-off between screens and buttons. I think this new iDrive X is a mistake, the idea is to drive the car, not look at screens.
Really cool new ideas and features, love that and want to have! But an absolute no-go without physical iDrive controller, buttons for climate, seat heating and any possibility to turn off all this automatic functions.
Those are haptic feedback buttons (like MacBooks touchpads and iPhone's Home Button) which are indistinguishable in use from physical buttons but can "disappear" if needed, also they will have physical cutouts so it's easy to push them without looking.
@@meoao8829 Yes we all know that. But we also know that in practise and untill you train both your fingers and brain you are always going to miss-click or take your eyes of the road to find them
@@Altair150 ………so if his job is ergonomic design and his designs follow trends instead of ergonomic design, what should I say? Keep up the good work? 🙄
@@Datoda there isn't a world where a cyan button with white text passes contrast ratio standards, ever. and in this case, the text weight is "light" or"extra light" making matters far worse. so you're wrong, it has nothing to do with youtube compression or other limiting factors. white (#fff) text on a #02c9e7 is so incredibly far from passing that even if my hex sample is slightly off, it wouldn't matter. it's bad UI design
@@tjk_9000 Talked with the folks who made this video and they said it looked fine in person. Also the big screen doesnt accurately represent the contrast and depth the final product will have, but if it was fine to look at with this already the actual small screen will be more than good.
Looks interesting, but I hate the upper spoke and the capacitive "buttons" on the steering wheel, and I wish BMW would bring back real/physical HVAC and heated seat buttons under the center screen. BMW designers, nobody wants everything to be controlled by a screen only!! A seamless blend of physical and digital is what ppl want - not endless sub-menus for basic controls.
bye bye BMW. I hate this. Half of this this in my car now is disabled. I want to drive a car. If I want to play with a car I go to a windows computer. Please STOP this (Ex BMW addict as from now-After 12 BMW's)
The guy that made me leave BMW! This is nothing new but rather a change in layout and style. Same crap that I have in my iX. Rivian and Tesla have defined what a modern UI should be. For once don’t reinvent the wheel 🛞
There goes the driver's instrument panell!!! Heads up display should be a good option not the main course! Hope driving doesn't become a display I want to drive my BMW.
Seeing information is one thing; trying to finger touch a small plus or minus screen area while driving at 75 miles per hour on a winding highway is another thing! Do these designers ever drive on the highway?
Why the screen is not straight ? Does it have to do with the woke agenda ? I will stick with the older models such as iX and iX1 etc hoping that BMW might even cancel NK project as MB did with the EQ project. Everything about this “technology” is ridiculous.
That looks absolutely horrible. The steering wheel looks like a cross between the latest Lexus and Bugatti designs but except all functionality and public criticism of everything wrong with touch capacitive buttons, BMW doesn't seem to have any connection with reality and the customer. The tilt and staggered touchscreen display looks equally bad.
the modes is like the dumbest thing unless u can actually adjust dampening settings and driving settings etc in personal its not that useful, for some reason in current models u can only fully customize drive experience in sport, that feels so non intuitive for something called "personal"
I'm all about this update but the steering wheel controls need to be scaled back. Less buttons and make the ones you put there, tactile. Capacitive buttons on the steering wheel are cheap looking, messy, and in its form shown here, looks like a giant calculator attached the steering wheel.
Oh BMW some of it is great others a fail, the loss of a physical jog wheel and no physical buttons is terrible from a safety point of view. Having a car with ID7 and ID8, the latter is far to hard to control in a moving car, reaching for the screen or trying to speak to it is a fail. I'm hoping the buttons on the wheel are at least physical and not Touch sensitive buttons, oh come on this is something even VW tried and have moved away as customer HATED them. Some great new innovations but at big cost of actually safety and usability, something I think regulators need to grapple with. If you want to really sort things bring back the 7 physical buttons that you can program that was a great BMW innovation thrown into the bin it seems along with the iDrive controller, sad day.
😅 A 360 degree 4k dash cam inside and outside is overdue! With cloud storage, remote access, live view, night vision, and sound recording. Also a serious anti theft system that uses all cameras and has the ability to remote start, locate and remote disable the vehicle from any range With No Subscription service!!! I have so many more ideas but I'm keeping my b58 440i no question lol 😂 😂
The panoramic view idea is insane and sick but we need buttons back a combo of these 2 would be sick
I think there will be some buttons.
I could like the panoramic view but they killed the iDrive button. I don't like reaching for touch screen controls and getting finger prints on the display if I don't have to...
Also the panoramic view is a very french way to make a car, and does not look good, there is no design just a screen and that steering wheel is stupid and very ugly, has way too many buttons, capacitive buttons it looks like.
The Neue Klasse also looks like a Peugeot / BMW 2002-ish car. Looks horrible, I have no hopes for the G50 3-series. The french can't make cars BMW, you can so why do this shit?
The same way buttons left cell phones, and everyone got used to it. Buttons are surely not coming back to cars. It's just the future.
Please no touch buttons on the wheel.
Mechanical buttons are too expensive to manufacture.
@ if I pay 80k€ for the car, I expect those additional 0.50€ cost to ne included.
they do not care about customers anymore, sell for as expensive as possible then charge even more at service centers for fixes
@@Александр-з2р6щ so despite lesser cost of manufacturing the touch buttons... I have to pay more for the actual car?! How does that make any sense if everything is downsized and cost-cut?
They posted elsewhere that the buttons are actually buttons - they're just a single unit with some digital tech behind it (lights, haptics), so they're not the VW-style touch ones.
Oh for heavens sake STOP with the capacitive touch buttons and gloss black plastics.
Bring back physical climate buttons!
I wouldn't get my hopes up for that, they don't listen to customers
Chinese don't want buttons so you are not getting them!!!
No!!!
Absolutely!!!
BMW.. are you even seeing these comments???
No one is asking for this…
Seriously the controls for the heated seats should be BUTTONS! not an even smaller touchpoint on a screen! BMW needs to listen to its customers!
CHINESE don't want dumb buttons so you wont get buttons!!!
In my i4 when you get in to the car and put reverse, you can't adjust heated seats until reverse camera full screen display turn off. It's stupid.
@@tomkaidl You're whining about the most minor shit lol.
@@Tactical_Taco No, it's a question of ergonomics, and by mi opinion stupid.
Screens are cheaper to manufacture than buttons but they can sell the screen as a "premium" feature. Lower expenses, higher profits. That's all you need to know. They know we want buttons for key features, like climate, seat heaters, audio, etc... But they don't care.
screens are not cheaper to produce than buttons are
@@jh5kl Yes, the shift from physical buttons to screens in automobiles is largely driven by cost considerations, among other factors. Here’s an overview of why this is happening:
Cost of Production
Economies of Scale with Screens:
Screens, particularly touchscreen displays, are now mass-produced at scale, reducing their per-unit cost. Manufacturers can use the same screen design across multiple vehicle models, cutting costs further.
Physical buttons require individual design, manufacturing, assembly, and wiring for each button or control, which can be more labor-intensive and expensive compared to integrating everything into a single screen.
Simplified Assembly:
A touchscreen reduces the complexity of a car's interior assembly. With fewer physical components, automakers save on production time and labor costs.
Software Flexibility:
Screens allow for software-based updates and changes, eliminating the need to retool physical parts for different functions or upgrades. This adaptability is a cost-saving advantage over the lifecycle of a car model.
@@jh5kl Yeah they are
WE NEED BUTTONS !!!!!!!!
Yeah man. Sad new world
YESSSSS!!!!!! BUTTONS, BUTTONS, BUTTONS, BUTTONS, BUTTONS. How many times do the customers have to tell the designers what we want? What we demand! To push shiny black cheap-looking plastic (make that crappy-and-cheap-looking plastic) at us and expect us to like it? That's what the IX is. What are they thinking? We don't need fingerprint mess all over the shiny black cheap plastic as our new way of life. We don't need a hole in the middle of the headrest, rimmed with a plastic frame, creating a hazard in a crash situation. We also don't need a light show inside our cars. A good driver is a focused driver. Quit trying to distract us with every gimmick and bauble under the sun. That whole tech-sound Hans Zimmer thing is a disaster. We should at least be able to opt out so we don't have to waste our money on BMW's mistake making that thing. AND FOR PETE'S SAKE, GET RIDE OF GLASS ROOFS!!! IN COLD WEATHER, THEY MAKE THE CAR COLDER. IN HOT WEATHER, THEY MAKE THE CAR HOTTER. THEY ARE A BAAAAADDDD IDEA!!!
@ We. Want. Buttons.
Then get rid of ur phones even that doesn't have buttons 😂
@ I use a old Blackberry my friend 😎
Does the panoramic display work with polarized sunglasses? I hope they thought of that because the regular HUD does not work well with sunglasses
That is SO true! I had that problem driving the BMW IX. The heads-up display cannot be seen when wearing polarized sunglasses. The BMW design team needs to address that. Otherwise, they are requiring us to drive blind, which is dangerous. It simply has to be said: Physical buttons and round steering wheels have WORKED for a century-plus. These wacky shaped steering wheels and non-physical buttons have all been 100% failures, across the board. Who are they trying to fool? We drivers know in an instant that these new things are worse than what we've all had our whole lives. This is NOT how you make customers stick with you. It is how you drive them away.
@@TheJoanRuth YES, it works with polarized sunglasses, it's a different display tech from regular HUD. The steering wheel now will have haptic feedback buttons (just like MacBook touchpads) which are indistinguishable in use from physical buttons but can "disappear" from view if needed, also they will have physical cutouts so it's easy to push them without looking.
In a different video, it was mentioned that polarized sunglasses should work.
@@meoao8829 haptic feedback buttons are very much distinguishable from physical buttons. Like, lets say, a ball and a picture of a ball
no it does not. even though they are stating that it does, but bmw cannot break laws of physics. they simply did not think about that :)
Automotive industry will never stop with cutting manufacturing prices and lowering quality. Touch screens, capacitive buttons and gloss black is cheap. They will just tell you that it is what customers want, that it is digital, that it is the future and all that crap that follows…
Trust your instincts and common sense, not their miserable marketing message.
I agree however that it looks cool and since it is made by BMW I will trust it much more than anything coming from VW group.
Thank you Horatiu for your clever interview and your deep knowledge of BMW (from a loyal BMW customer).
Thank you for the kind words also.
Great! Always wanted a car with the interior ambiance of a science lab 😳
Why the touch on the steering wheels. Makes it so much less intuitive to control adas.
I would be OK with touch buttons if I could see on the windshield what exactly I am touching right now, so I can quickly swipe across all touch areas and choose the right option with a double tap without breaking my attention from the road ahead. Eyes on the road in the sports cars are necessary even if I want to change the temperature!
iDrive 7 ftw
Ironic people complain about a lack of buttons but text or use their buttonless cell phone while driving.
Haha, true
Best comment ever!
They killed the buttons on the phones already, don't you get it that they don't want them to be killed in the car as well?
The battle of the phone buttons has been lost long time ago...
Where is the irony? I'm sitting on my couch while typing this on my phone, not driving.
We don't, because it's illegal for a reason. Also it's pretty difficult to fit great knobs and buttons for UX on a device you put in your pocket, but in a car you have all the space in the world for a great UX, still they just throw it away.
This actually looks awesome, can't wait for BMW to bring it's Neue Classe platform to production. 3 series please 😍😍❤❤
Great video
Thanks for the support!
@@urbanstrencan Yes, looks awesome, my next car
Will that central display's angle lean the other way for right-hand drive BMWs?
How is the main screen oriented for right hand drive and how is the screen layout? Is it flipped? Does the UX team run this in right hand drive mode too? - just see how good you are trying to use your non-dominant hand on the touch screen all the time. Physical buttons please not touch screens.
okay that panoramic reflection idea is pretty cool
BMW UI Meeting
Assignment: Design me a new screen
UI: Draws a box
Boss: Doesn't looks nice and a good UI
UI: Tilt the box to the left
Boss: Send it out to production
reinventing the wheel to a triangle
Please have physical buttons on steering wheel or at least good physical haptic feedback to prevent accident touches
I hate tough screens. I want haptic response buttons during driving
Like it or not this is the future
Can Apple Podcasts go to the dashboard? How does it work with CarPlay?
Yes it can
Looks promising, disappointed with lack of driver’s gauges that mimics analog gauges. Without that it reminds me of 1985 Toyota Cressida digital cluster
FYI, touch screens allow functions at any size and location.
Yeah I don´t know about the touch panels on the steering wheel, like so many others in the comments. Everybody is complaining about it, the critics as well as the customers. VW had them, customers disliked them and VW listend and went back to buttons with the next generation. So many people said that the steering wheel in the new 5 and i5 are quit good BECAUSE they have buttons under the panel. Why does BMW what everybody dislike? I mean the previous generation wheels had such a nice button layout, it looked so well integrated in the previous models.
I’ve been using iDrive 8.5 and rarely touch anything. The car knows when to heat/cool my seat. It knows my preferred climate, seat settings, etc. Other than music selections, I rarely touch the screen. I think this looks really good.
Truth is that we rarely adjust the climate more than once during a ride.
@@bmwblog since BMW still makes temperatures depend on outer situation instead of inside.
Example: My steering wheel shall warm up when the steering wheel is cold, not when it is cold outside, after I just shopped and got back into the car. Similar for seat heating.
That doesn't mean I at times want to override that logic and wish to have a warm steering wheel when I didn't wear gloves, or wish to have some soothing in my back after efforts. ;)
Any information if we will still get a physical iDrive Controller in the NK iX3 ??
No, this is what you will get
get an Audi instead
Really really cool (if it would be year 2000)
How is the center console designed? Capacitive touch buttons ? iDrive wheel ?
What do you mean? Which part?
Reminds of what Honda did with the civic in 2006
I suppose BMW aren’t doing passenger screens?
No, they only copy the worst of Tesla.
bmw x5 and above models will have passenger screen option
ugggg… no weird display shape. An answer to a question no one asked. If you must put everything on a screen can you at least give us a standard shape, and at least a few physical buttons on the wheel? At a minimum. I really wanted to upgrade from our old i3, but it looks like we will wait a bit longer till they can find some common sense. Maybe we will just get a Cadillac, at least they understand the idea of physical buttons and elegance.
Wie ätzend…😮 Schade BMW ! Und dann noch so dämliche Touchtasten im Lenkrad !
I hope my current BMW can last for 40 years. This is something I dont whant. The current system are bad but this was worce. Try to use it on a uneven road.
All of this to end using android auto at the end 😂
bmw is officially dead. I hear more and more people switching to Audi as the last harbor of what used to be user ergonomics. How is it possible that such brand as bmw handed over cockpit design to yesterdays graduates who have no idea about user ergonomics and usability? They are just coping everything from chinese brands, but even that they are doing very poorly and childishly naive - let's sprinkle lot of colors around the dashboard as it looks so much fun and unicorny
It would be a night with dynamic ambient light based on driving conditions and environment. Ex blue and white lights tip-tap like rain in a wet storm with flowing graphics that follow the content of the window, such as passing objects/signs on that side as well in the car.
You can customize the colors. Intensity etc
Not sure if BMW's strategy of pleasing the Chinese is the right one to follow. It's understandable they want to appease their biggest market but in the process they've forgotten about the rest of the world market. Now here's the kicker the Chinese seems to embracing their own manufacturers cos they are good at making gimmicks more and more will learn the hard way with their Chinese first strategy. We need physical controls not these gimmicks of my modes. Go back to idrive 7 and improve from there atleast for ice cars as for electric cars not much care really. The Idrive 7 was the last good os that was universally praised by everyone as the best everything went downhill from 8+ too distracting complicated
How are touch buttons better than physical buttons besides making the car feel cheaper
so your smartphone feels cheaper because it doesn t have buttons? interesting
@@jh5kl actually it would, if you replaced the current buttons on smarts phones, the power button, the volume controls and the alert slide with a bunch of touch buttons it will feel cheaper.
So the next gen G65 X5 will feature this. Does the package come as standard or will the windscreen display be an optional extra
Standard
As a BMW fan for more than 30 years, now I can honestly say that BMW became ugly and uncomfortable :(
@@VSPlum how are they uncomfortable now? What are you comparing against?
@ buttons, buttons and once more buttons. They shouldn’t remove buttons! And iDrive as well
Imagine paying millions of dollars to designers just to have a clustered steering wheel with capacitive buttons. I just want to drive the damn car not deal with the damn user interface
Honestly it feels like a big step backwards in user experience. Now information is spread out over the entire width of the windscreen instead of straight ahead behind the steering wheel. All physical controls that are great to interact with, especially when you are driving are replaced with touch dito which not only are a worse UX but also feels cheaper to interact with.
We need to see it in real life. But keep in mind, the speed and essential info, it's really right above the steering wheel. I would argue that's easy to see
Do these "designers" ever drive cars with these designs? It looks like they double down on features that people hate with passion. Meanwhile, you probably still cannot see half of these screens and projections when you wear polarizing glasses.
every car gen has a designer
We need turn signal camera!
How is that left pane useful? I don't understand why that pane display would be helpful in the situation that is described?
What a bunch of BS. None of this is ergonomic. It's just a ton of distractions so they can upsell "driving assistants".
WTF BMW?
How expensive will replacing a cracked windshield be with all these projections probably requiring special treatment on the windshield?
How readable will this be in sunlight with sunroof open? Reaction to polarized sunglasses?
We're not buying screens on wheels BMW, we want CARS!
Useless, useless stuff...
Customers: We want reasonably priced, easy to use, quality, reliable cars with intuitive phisical controls.
Car company: Here is a very expensive, very complicated car made in the very cheapest way possible that will last about a week longer than the warranty and we've put all controls in screens.
Customer hates the car.
Car company makes surprised Pikachu face!
As beautiful as this innovation is, some of you will still prefer the old 2015 idrive system.. Change is humans kryptonite.
Actually, I love this new Idrive X. But my last BMW didn't even have a screen, and loved that too. Glad to miss all the versions with an iPad instrument cluster.
Because they do change for the sake of change. Not change for the better. That's why iDrive 7 is still preferable.
No thank you. iDrive 7 >
Just when you think bmw couldn't get any worse
It's such a HUGE disappointment to see beloved, reliable, well-designed BMW go down the same disastrous path as Tesla. I currently drive a Tesla and a BMW. It is no contest. That horrible center iPad-like screen having everything and then no stalks on the steering wheel is a MASSIVE mistake that Tesla made. Drivers truly do need to be able to FEEL where the turn signal is. It is NOT appropriate to use an iPad or steering-wheel buttons for that. All I can say to the reader is this: Every BMW enthusiast needs to buy their next car BEFORE Neue Klasse hits the market, and then keep that car for as long as they possibly can. Maybe by the time those cars die, BMW will have learned the error of non-round steering wheels, no-stalk steering columns, and iPads in the center. Physical buttons cannot be beaten. We NEED them. Not want. NEED. To BMW designers. Go buy yourself a Tesla and try to live with that. It's not fun. Just trying to open the glovebox turns into a hunt-on-the-iPad quest. Not fun. The one thing Tesla truly does right is to use an air filter that is as wide as the car. That thing pulls all smells out of the car in an instant. Adopt THAT! It's great.
This interior is inspired! I've always thought the i3 was the high watermark for a car interior, I'm glad BMW are once again raising the standard.
The center display is an ergonomic display?
Piano black touch screens on the wheel.... ugh
OLED center screen? Because my 2024 iDrive 8 bended screen is not, and it is straining when driving in Scandinavian winter darkness. One cannot dim the screens enough. Yeah, I switch off the centre screen often, but it would be refined to have a very well thought of interface for night driving.
This is the man to blame.
Please come back classic bmw
The point is people r still buying them. If the majority of us that r complaining bought these cars they would LISTEN...........................................
Make iDrive Great Again!
I don't mind the no button for the center console (A volume button and climate controls would be amazing) , but really the capacitive steering wheel "buttons" are the worst thing ever. just make them actual buttons, or at least put psychical cutout dividers for each button and not just on flat capacitive plate.
Couldn’t agree more than that!
The steering wheel now will have haptic feedback buttons (just like MacBook touchpads) which are basically indistinguishable from physical buttons but can be turned off/be invisible if not needed anymore, also they will have physical cutouts so it's easy to push them without looking.
@@meoao8829 haptic feedback buttons are very much distinguishable from physical buttons. Like, lets say, a ball and a picture of a ball
this is weak …. bring back the real BMW, manual gearboxes, physical buttons, analogic style gauge, the steering feel (hydro-electrical servo), the brake sensation . This is what we loved on BMW😢 Keep it original !
do they not learn or listen?
Looks like a Fisher Price steering wheel for my 5 Year old.
klavierlack ist super damit keine Fingerabdrücke zu sehen sind.
Fire this dude and his team for the love of god !!
this is so ugly. I thought I drive 9 was ugly this is next level good job bmw
I really like the iDrive 8 on my i4 M50, its a good trade-off between screens and buttons. I think this new iDrive X is a mistake, the idea is to drive the car, not look at screens.
0:29 FTW. Biggest dash screen ever.
Please don't that center screen on i7 or 7er at all!
What do you mean?
Really cool new ideas and features, love that and want to have! But an absolute no-go without physical iDrive controller, buttons for climate, seat heating and any possibility to turn off all this automatic functions.
What is this, a half cockpit for giants?
In an age where there are too many distractions for the driver, BMW is adding more… Please STOP!!!! Bring back buttons!!!
New doesn't mean also better...Terrible design on the steering wheel. VW group made the mistake with the capacitive buttons, why do you do the same?
Those are haptic feedback buttons (like MacBooks touchpads and iPhone's Home Button) which are indistinguishable in use from physical buttons but can "disappear" if needed, also they will have physical cutouts so it's easy to push them without looking.
@@meoao8829 Yes we all know that. But we also know that in practise and untill you train both your fingers and brain you are always going to miss-click or take your eyes of the road to find them
@@meoao8829 haptic feedback buttons are very much distinguishable from physical buttons. Like, lets say, a ball and a picture of a ball
No physical climate controls? All screens? No physical buttons? Fire him.
Its been a trend for the last few years have you not been paying any attention?
@@Altair150 ………so if his job is ergonomic design and his designs follow trends instead of ergonomic design, what should I say? Keep up the good work? 🙄
I want to see how this will be implemented into M cars
configure button at 13:25 is unreadable, needs a higher contrast ratio.
Perfectly readable in person, this is just how it looks on video
@@Datoda there isn't a world where a cyan button with white text passes contrast ratio standards, ever. and in this case, the text weight is "light" or"extra light" making matters far worse.
so you're wrong, it has nothing to do with youtube compression or other limiting factors. white (#fff) text on a #02c9e7 is so incredibly far from passing that even if my hex sample is slightly off, it wouldn't matter.
it's bad UI design
@@tjk_9000 Talked with the folks who made this video and they said it looked fine in person. Also the big screen doesnt accurately represent the contrast and depth the final product will have, but if it was fine to look at with this already the actual small screen will be more than good.
Looks interesting, but I hate the upper spoke and the capacitive "buttons" on the steering wheel, and I wish BMW would bring back real/physical HVAC and heated seat buttons under the center screen.
BMW designers, nobody wants everything to be controlled by a screen only!! A seamless blend of physical and digital is what ppl want - not endless sub-menus for basic controls.
Stretched speedometer
More touch buttons?
NO! THAK YOU!
Is there actually anyone that asks for touch buttons on steering wheel or is it just them thinking it’s what we all want
I'm assuming they did user research
bye bye BMW. I hate this. Half of this this in my car now is disabled. I want to drive a car. If I want to play with a car I go to a windows computer. Please STOP this (Ex BMW addict as from now-After 12 BMW's)
Possibly iDrive 10 to the IX facelift too?
No
No
The guy that made me leave BMW! This is nothing new but rather a change in layout and style. Same crap that I have in my iX. Rivian and Tesla have defined what a modern UI should be. For once don’t reinvent the wheel 🛞
they haven't defined what a modern ui should be at all
There goes the driver's instrument panell!!!
Heads up display should be a good option not the main course!
Hope driving doesn't become a display I want to drive my BMW.
There is a Panoramic display and a head up
Also please for the life of me, bring back physical buttons!
Won't happen any time soon
I thought the EU had a law requiring car manufacturers to bring back physical buttons?
Seeing information is one thing; trying to finger touch a small plus or minus screen area while driving at 75 miles per hour on a winding highway is another thing! Do these designers ever drive on the highway?
Put the air conditioned with physical buttons for god sakes
Why the screen is not straight ?
Does it have to do with the woke agenda ?
I will stick with the older models such as iX and iX1 etc hoping that BMW might even cancel NK project as MB did with the EQ project.
Everything about this “technology” is ridiculous.
It's easier to reach it in that shape
That looks absolutely horrible. The steering wheel looks like a cross between the latest Lexus and Bugatti designs but except all functionality and public criticism of everything wrong with touch capacitive buttons, BMW doesn't seem to have any connection with reality and the customer. The tilt and staggered touchscreen display looks equally bad.
This new wheel with touch buttons - such a shame😢
why they make a screen like this shape
Why not? It's easier than a wide shape
Exactly
BMW, bring back real full scale shifters, not those small click buttons.
Won't happen unfortunately
the modes is like the dumbest thing
unless u can actually adjust dampening settings and driving settings etc in personal its not that useful, for some reason in current models u can only fully customize drive experience in sport, that feels so non intuitive for something called "personal"
Just update idrive 7 graphics and call it a day. 😂
I'm all about this update but the steering wheel controls need to be scaled back. Less buttons and make the ones you put there, tactile. Capacitive buttons on the steering wheel are cheap looking, messy, and in its form shown here, looks like a giant calculator attached the steering wheel.
Oh BMW some of it is great others a fail, the loss of a physical jog wheel and no physical buttons is terrible from a safety point of view. Having a car with ID7 and ID8, the latter is far to hard to control in a moving car, reaching for the screen or trying to speak to it is a fail. I'm hoping the buttons on the wheel are at least physical and not Touch sensitive buttons, oh come on this is something even VW tried and have moved away as customer HATED them. Some great new innovations but at big cost of actually safety and usability, something I think regulators need to grapple with. If you want to really sort things bring back the 7 physical buttons that you can program that was a great BMW innovation thrown into the bin it seems along with the iDrive controller, sad day.
😅 A 360 degree 4k dash cam inside and outside is overdue! With cloud storage, remote access, live view, night vision, and sound recording.
Also a serious anti theft system that uses all cameras and has the ability to remote start, locate and remote disable the vehicle from any range With No Subscription service!!! I have so many more ideas but I'm keeping my b58 440i no question lol 😂 😂
They do have a wide lense inside camera
i4 m50. i miss my buttons