Nice guide ! The overlay text for class mitigation ideas on bloodboil has some abilities that do not exist in the game yet such as Hunter aspect of the dragonhawk Priest dispersion Warlock metamorphosis Ideally priests who get targeted want to make sure they keep inner fire up at all times
Good guide. After joining a few groups, I ran my own yesterday and got up to Council. I've killed them before, but didn't with that group. Gonna go in for the last 2 bosses today and clear. Your tips, along with the footage, for Illidan is very useful. Thank you
Really good video guide! My guild is progging BT and have only gotten to Teron Gorefiend so far (killed him the night we first encountered him). So really appreciating the information here for the bosses afterwards.
Great video! I have also heard 174 unbuffed is the sweet spot (not 178). Also, you did not mention Veras' Envenom ability on Council which deals 5k nature damage to a random target and cannot be cleansed. Healers must focus this target ASAP. We had multiple deaths to Envenom + Flamestrike / Blizzard / Concecrate in my PTR runs.
It is 174. The threshold to guarantee at least 25% damage is resisted every time is 244 resistance, so 174 unbuffed (or 149/139 if you're using one of the flasks).
Some of the spells suggested that people use on Bloodboil to survive are from Wotlk. But the general idea is still sound imo. As for the Council, dont... think you can rly AoE then, they all have a 70% or w/e it was dmg reduction from AoE. So people "cleaving" should be a dmg reduction. Stuff like multidots, consecration aka not classic cleave should not count, if memory serves. Unsure if Blade Flurry counts... but who brings Rogues, right? xD P.s. Saw the Thornling not working on Bloodboil from your clip. Damn... had hopes it would so the healers could pump too at the start xD
Your ghost abilities on Gorefiend will be on your pet bar not actionbar though so keep that in mind. Also hunters and mages can cheese shadow of death with FD and Iceblock
A simple macro makes the ghost abilities pretty easy. Just /cast ability 1 /cast 2 /cast 3 (look up the names) and then spam it while you tab through the constructs.
I did notice one very important piece of info in the video. Illidan can cast shear on the tank, which reduces the tanks max hp by 60%, and can be blocked, parried, or dodged, but CANNOT be missed. The tank should gear appropriately to account for the miss percentage. If the tank gets hit by this, they will almost certainly die.
@@v2occy809 I'd say Paladins are better tanks for Illidan, because they stay uncrushable for longer due to holy shield(8 charges for 10 seconds vs 2 charges for 5 seconds). Threat isn't an issue since Illidan is counted as a demon.
@@svilendenchev9984 Illidan doesn't crush, but pallies do have an easier time remaining unshearable. Their threat is also higher than a warrior (dual wield, demon) when both in full mitigation gear, and warrior can take less damage and does better threat on flames compared to paladin.
Remember that in p3 of Reliquary you can have an offtank/bear get initial aggro and then have the main tank instantly taunt back, applying the buff that gives the tank more threat. As for the soul scream (w/e it's called), swapping stances is easiest way to drop rage before it hits (spell reflect also works well if you don't have that much rage). Also, the fact that Illidari Council is most likely going to be one of the hardest fights for players in classic tbc says a lot. It's one fight that isn't made much easier by having crazy dps (compared to back in the day) - you still have to deal with everything and react accordingly , and threre's a lot going on in tthat fight. Back in the day ,that fight was one of the easier fights in t6, though. Biggest problem was not falling asleep over the course of the 12min fight, lol
On PTR i failed Gorefiend as the first person, because my pet bar was not set right, so watch out for that. That being said, 2 out of 3 people failed the mechanic and we still killed him first try, so dont be to worried about this fight.
Note on Teron. When you have killed your mobs as a ghost you should start to DPS the boss becuase you lower Terons damage and the tank survives more easy.
This video was fantastic! A lot of info in a relatively short time. I have one question though: Isn't 174 unbuffed shadow res the sweet point? That's what I've read everywhere else. Congrats on a great job!
as many have already mentioned ...174 (not 8) is the sweet spot that completley removes full ticks form the table when fully buffed. But early on...just get what you can Also rocket boots are huge. with boots you can live through an FA with next to no SR due to how fast you break it.
You missed one of the most important tank abilities for Illidan P1, 3, & 5, Shear which reduces tank health by 60% if not mitigated against with Shield Block in the case of a warrior
From what I recall back from original tbc, the bonechewere behemoths don't always have meteor, they have one of two abilities at random, one was meteor, the other was something that you needed to be spread for, though can't remember what it was.
Very nice guide. Finally someone mentions that there even IS a teleport and we dont have to run all the way up in case of wipe. Also the information I was looking for was if we need to kill all trash before Supremus. Does anyone knows if Supremus and Illidans Fire elementals are immune / resistant to Fire damage?
It has to be said. When this game was new like 10 years ago. This kind of guides did not exist. It is much easier today than back then. Back then information was scarce and "raw".
Promenade Sentinel: Can you use damage reducing effects like defensive stance and shamanstic rage? To reduce the 100% of max hp to 90 or 70% respectively?
For the meteor/stomp guy, can you stack ranged just outside melee range, behind the tank, and avoid the stomp, but still share the meteor, like you do on the infernals with immolation aura in Arcatraz?
Nice guide !
The overlay text for class mitigation ideas on bloodboil has some abilities that do not exist in the game yet such as
Hunter aspect of the dragonhawk
Priest dispersion
Warlock metamorphosis
Ideally priests who get targeted want to make sure they keep inner fire up at all times
Good guide. After joining a few groups, I ran my own yesterday and got up to Council. I've killed them before, but didn't with that group. Gonna go in for the last 2 bosses today and clear. Your tips, along with the footage, for Illidan is very useful. Thank you
Lol, on Bloodboil: Warlocks: Use metamorphosis... Yeah sure, let me get right on that.
Dispersion too
Really good video guide! My guild is progging BT and have only gotten to Teron Gorefiend so far (killed him the night we first encountered him). So really appreciating the information here for the bosses afterwards.
Damn bro, that was presented super well. Thanks!
Great video! I have also heard 174 unbuffed is the sweet spot (not 178). Also, you did not mention Veras' Envenom ability on Council which deals 5k nature damage to a random target and cannot be cleansed. Healers must focus this target ASAP. We had multiple deaths to Envenom + Flamestrike / Blizzard / Concecrate in my PTR runs.
It is 174. The threshold to guarantee at least 25% damage is resisted every time is 244 resistance, so 174 unbuffed (or 149/139 if you're using one of the flasks).
Blood boil guide for priests says “use dispersion” which is not in the game kek
Awesome guide. It would be nice to have a guide for Hyjal Summit as well like this one. Especially how to deal with waves.
Some of the spells suggested that people use on Bloodboil to survive are from Wotlk. But the general idea is still sound imo.
As for the Council, dont... think you can rly AoE then, they all have a 70% or w/e it was dmg reduction from AoE. So people "cleaving" should be a dmg reduction. Stuff like multidots, consecration aka not classic cleave should not count, if memory serves. Unsure if Blade Flurry counts... but who brings Rogues, right? xD
P.s. Saw the Thornling not working on Bloodboil from your clip. Damn... had hopes it would so the healers could pump too at the start xD
Your ghost abilities on Gorefiend will be on your pet bar not actionbar though so keep that in mind. Also hunters and mages can cheese shadow of death with FD and Iceblock
A simple macro makes the ghost abilities pretty easy. Just /cast ability 1 /cast 2 /cast 3 (look up the names) and then spam it while you tab through the constructs.
My guild is heading to BT tonight , thanks for making this video
I did notice one very important piece of info in the video. Illidan can cast shear on the tank, which reduces the tanks max hp by 60%, and can be blocked, parried, or dodged, but CANNOT be missed. The tank should gear appropriately to account for the miss percentage. If the tank gets hit by this, they will almost certainly die.
Reason why you let a warrior tank him. Shield block makes this a non-issue.
@@StandTallTx Pallys can easily tank him also.
@@v2occy809 I'd say Paladins are better tanks for Illidan, because they stay uncrushable for longer due to holy shield(8 charges for 10 seconds vs 2 charges for 5 seconds).
Threat isn't an issue since Illidan is counted as a demon.
@@svilendenchev9984 Illidan doesn't crush, but pallies do have an easier time remaining unshearable.
Their threat is also higher than a warrior (dual wield, demon) when both in full mitigation gear, and warrior can take less damage and does better threat on flames compared to paladin.
You can intervene the shear debuff
Fantastic guide as Always :D
Its actually only 174 SR unbuffed thats needed for Mother. Not much less but its a void sphere less so could save someone like 50 gold! :D
Very nice guy, great job on setting this video up. Was nice pugging that bt with you!
Clear, concise guide on Black Temple. Good video all around :)
3:04 the Icon of Hateful Strike is killing me
Remember that in p3 of Reliquary you can have an offtank/bear get initial aggro and then have the main tank instantly taunt back, applying the buff that gives the tank more threat. As for the soul scream (w/e it's called), swapping stances is easiest way to drop rage before it hits (spell reflect also works well if you don't have that much rage).
Also, the fact that Illidari Council is most likely going to be one of the hardest fights for players in classic tbc says a lot. It's one fight that isn't made much easier by having crazy dps (compared to back in the day) - you still have to deal with everything and react accordingly , and threre's a lot going on in tthat fight. Back in the day ,that fight was one of the easier fights in t6, though. Biggest problem was not falling asleep over the course of the 12min fight, lol
On PTR i failed Gorefiend as the first person, because my pet bar was not set right, so watch out for that. That being said, 2 out of 3 people failed the mechanic and we still killed him first try, so dont be to worried about this fight.
Bartender works?
@@mr.anderson2257 as far as my guildies told me, yes.
Note on Teron.
When you have killed your mobs as a ghost you should start to DPS the boss becuase you lower Terons damage and the tank survives more easy.
What spells should be used as a ghost when the mobs are down ?
This video was fantastic! A lot of info in a relatively short time. I have one question though: Isn't 174 unbuffed shadow res the sweet point? That's what I've read everywhere else. Congrats on a great job!
174 is one threshold and then 230 is the next. Also some groups plan on running no SR and wearing rocket boots to instantly break free.
that warlock tank spamming immolate made me cry
That warlock spamming immolate while tanking Illidan’s demon phase… 👍🏻🤣😂🤣
Which addons are you using? Especially the tank-target display in the upper left corner looks super interesting :)
Great Guide!
Very helpful, thank you!
Awesome guide, tyty :)
as many have already mentioned ...174 (not 8) is the sweet spot that completley removes full ticks form the table when fully buffed. But early on...just get what you can
Also rocket boots are huge. with boots you can live through an FA with next to no SR due to how fast you break it.
You missed one of the most important tank abilities for Illidan P1, 3, & 5, Shear which reduces tank health by 60% if not mitigated against with Shield Block in the case of a warrior
Good guide. Love this video dude.
From what I recall back from original tbc, the bonechewere behemoths don't always have meteor, they have one of two abilities at random, one was meteor, the other was something that you needed to be spread for, though can't remember what it was.
At 10.00 "priest use dispersion" is not a good tip because we get dispersion in wotlk
Same for warlock metamorphosis
Very nice guide. Finally someone mentions that there even IS a teleport and we dont have to run all the way up in case of wipe. Also the information I was looking for was if we need to kill all trash before Supremus. Does anyone knows if Supremus and Illidans Fire elementals are immune / resistant to Fire damage?
Supremus is immune, unsure but fairly likely illidan’s elementals are as well.
Supremus is NOT immune. He does however have very high fire resistance
Awesome vidéo as always, is it possible to edit a french translation of your work ? Will help my community.
With credit and your authorization ofc.
Good guide but it was worth mentioning the paths to the bosses
awesome guide, thanks
At 12:07 I wonder why you have to spellreflect. You can also just switch tanks for 10 seconds and that doesn't need a warrior.
but when 1 of you get bigger there is no thret as you get debuf that make it imposible to generate agro
Very nice guide. You nailed it!
Could anyone tell me who's UI is being shown at 16:05 i desperately want to copy it but i cant figure out what any of those addons are
Nice guide!
I'd like to know what addons that he is using, as they all look very helpful. If you know what ones he's using, please comment on it.
244 buffed is the sweet sweet resistance spot
Is that DBM, WA or something to show when consecrate and flamestrike happen on illidari council?
It has to be said. When this game was new like 10 years ago. This kind of guides did not exist. It is much easier today than back then. Back then information was scarce and "raw".
What is the buff tracker addon you have next to the bug reporter on your screen?
Promenade Sentinel: Can you use damage reducing effects like defensive stance and shamanstic rage? To reduce the 100% of max hp to 90 or 70% respectively?
For the meteor/stomp guy, can you stack ranged just outside melee range, behind the tank, and avoid the stomp, but still share the meteor, like you do on the infernals with immolation aura in Arcatraz?
Hunters do NOT MD pull the mage on council with arcaneshot or its whipe and shame time 🤭
Is illidan not useing shear in this version of the game?
good guide
uh that reliq boss has 3 faces how do you know whats front or back
Why this Lock Tank on Illidan spam Immolate instead Searing Pain? o.O
Are the elementals immune to fire damage?
No comprehensive guide for Hyjal?
3:53 THE NEXT PHASE IS WHAT!!!!!!?
5 or 6 heal BT?
use dispersion of Gurthogg? wrong expansion buddy :D
Why dont you use a paladin tank on Illidan? I heard its much better for threat because Illidan classifies as a demon. What do you think?
Usually warriors have no issue with threat on single-target + they are more reliable on parrys to counter shear.
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cool
"very fun flash game" we disagree sir
Or you just LOS the general from all your CC targets problem solved
Stack at meteor. New ability I think.
You need two OTs on Supremus, not one.
Your pronunciation of "heal" and "kill" are very difficult to tell apart, especially in the Shade of Akama section.
Use dispersion if available...........
Are you serious? Guide is great but thats some silly stuff.
Lusts and cds on 2 phase? Lol, warlock tank 4 phase 4? Lol, u can skip phase 3 with good amount of dps in phase 3 , so u need to hold lust 4 phase 3
Hmm, you cant pronounce hard Ks?