They were probably started when the collab dropped and then did a pivot on the tuning. Figured the Ultra would just get rid of the normal stock I guess. Showed them.
Nice insights man @Z Reviews. I'm lovin' both my Ultras and the MK2, keepin' both. What you just mentioned about the MK2, improving on the Ultras, is what I felt about my set. And yes, someone on the same camp of lovin' the S&S tips in XL size 😎👌
Sa6 Ultra with better mids and wider soundstage. We agree that's exactly how the SA6 Mk2 sounds. It will be released on HiFiGo first after April.15th at price lower than US$600
This does not seem like a problem. Everyone was sad that SA6 Ultra sold out. Now others might get to enjoy something very very close. We all win. Except maybe those poor souls who might have purchased SA6 Ultra hoping to sell them for a profit?
@@jamesmiller4487 I feel like youre right about IEMs being that way. That definitely isn't the case with over ear headphones lol. They retain their value even if outdated and niche
Don't you dare let seeaudio stop making the rinko. They're rocking my world right now. Did you know there's a dude just WAILING on a cowbell in sturgill Simpson's "a good look"? Because I didn't until tonight. Now I can't live without it.
I bought the Sa6 ultra (n°z156), i love them for the quality of mediums and trebles. Sometime i feel that they would be perfection with more bass so i boost them with the equalizer and it become great.
The SA6 MK 2 will be available in early May at the price of $579 from our direct shop and select retailers. It will be more widely available globally the following month in June. Told by Dunu on head-fi.
To make any silicone tips stick better into your ears and don't pop out of them, you should use a thinner and lighter cable. A thin cable has less weight and won't pull the IEM out of your ears so easy, especially when your ear canals starts to sweat or while you're moving your head or walking. Also, if your ears aren't small, always pick the larger size.
True, I have the MK2 and the included cable is the heaviest I own, and even though I have several KZs and Moondrop IEMS, this is my most expensive IEM with the worst cable. Would not recommend the cable.
“My bass” - The pettiness and ego is pervasive throughout this (I get it), but glad to hear that there is room for praise and acceptance and that you are not going to war over a good thing being made available.
These will have quite a bit more mid bass than the Meteor. Meteor really focus on the sub bass and upper sparkle, and IMHO they sound stunning, but it's a totally different tuning. The meteor to my ear are similarly tuned to the Hifiman Arya in terms of low end rumble without a bass boost, and quite a bit of air detail.
I've had the SA6 Ultra and really loved them. Sold the tho after comparing them to the Monarch Mk2. I felt like the MMk2 gave me more complex sound. Now after playing with Meteor for the last week, im seriously considering selling the MMk2. That's how good the Meteors are. For me better than the SA6 Ultra, so they can possibly be also better than the SA6 Mk2 but it's a blind judgement, will need to compare them to be 100% sure.
Damn. That must’ve been gratifying. So cool Z, so so cool. Dunu, I’m talking to you know. The marketing here, bothers me. The advertising, GRINDS MY GEARS! Why, you might ask? Because I Am Sold. I’m now planning on BUYING these for My Own Birthday, and I wasn’t even in the market for IEMs, never even owned a pair out of the $50 price point… Now I’m happily setting aside over Five Hundred Dollars like a silly little lamb lead to slaughter. Dunu. Eat dirt. Dunu. Consume soil and take my money, I love you. ***Expletives***
This IEM is so expensive for me that live in Brazil. It would be so nice if Dunu makes a "lite" version of this IEM. Like 3D printer shell (I think the shells are handcrafted), a more simple case and a simple cable to reduce costs.
Let’s put this in perspective: How much money did you make out of the deal, and how much time did you put in? Then we can gauge our outrage at this terrible injustice.
Disclaimer: the following is more a defense of free trade/capitalism/how the world works than a defense of Zeos specifically. Indeed, lets put this in perspective. 300 pairs x $600 cost = $180,000. Lets say his cut was 10%. Thats $18,000. How much time did he put in? Lets say he put in 10 hours of discussion/analysis/etc. Well hey, wait a minute, thats $1,800 an hour! Is it? Why did Dunu collaborate with Zeos? Why didnt they collaborate with you. Is 10 hours really the correct amount of time to analyze? How is value measured? How is "time put in" measured? This youtuber has been analyzing audio and putting out videos almost everyday for 10 years (generalization). Hes built up credibility with a large audience through some level of authenticity (perceived or imagined). If Michael Jordan does an ad for Coca-Cola do you take into consideration the journey to arrive at that ad? The 30 years of practice, the championship rings? How exactly should value be calculated? Is this all a matter of hourly rate? What about level of expertise? What about level of influence. Theres a reason they didnt collaborate with me or you. You are coming at this from a "labor theory of value" perspective. This is a Marxist view of how this transaction should work. If i spend 50 hours to build you a desk and a professional spends 20 hours building you a desk - i will be able to charge $100 dollars for my desk because it'll be shit. A professional can charge $5,000 for his desk. Not because he spent 20 hours on it. Because the labor theory of value is not how the real world works. His application of years of experience isnt simply quantified by "hours worked on your specific item". Its not surprising that someone who espouses a marxist view of economics would post this. As Jordan Peterson said, "they dont love the poor, they just hate the rich". Hopefully that puts things in perspective, if not for you, at least for others reading your "criticism".
@@TheTastefulThickness Not criticism as you state. Zeos went to the airwaves seeking sympathy. I'm interested in knowing the full story before drawing a conclusion. Obviously they went to Zeus for the exposure - fine! smart! But in my opinion they were unlikely seeking expertise. I find Zeos an entertainer, not an informer no matter how many videos he has put out, or headphones he's tried. The channel is primarily boobs and dick jokes. I really can't imagine Zeos doing anything but saying "hey, if you make it warm and fun I'll put my name behind. it." I can't see him in a serious back-and-forth sweating the details. So in a perfect capitalist dog-eat-dog system, things worked out fairly and as expected. Zeos got some compensation for lending his name and exposure. Unfortunately for Zeos, he underestimated sales, blundered in negotiations, and didn't/couldn't read the market. Dunu capatalized on his naïveté - bravo, right?. Your Jordan would be quite happy with the outcome.
@@TheTastefulThickness Hello again. I think we probably have a lot more in common than not. We can take this chat private if you like, not really pertinent here.
I dunno. I feel like they shouldn't have cut you out of the update, especially after you requested they make more of them. That doesn't feel right. It appears that they wanted to Capitalize on the success of your collaboration and but not having to share the profits this time. Maybe there's something I'm missing, but I don't respect that.
It's not so much about the product - it's about Zeos. I've agreed for quite a few years that Zeos knows good sound. Now we know that Zeos can help tweak things for good sound. So one product vs the person who helped make that product what it is? I'd rather have access to the man that inspired the product. And no, Zeos is not an engineer, but he knows good sound.
Bent connector bad. Straight connector good. Yup… True in many ways. Yup… Hey, stop looking at me that way. You are thinking it too, and it just had to be said!
The depends entirely on use case. If you're staying at a desk on fixed amps, then yes - straight connector all the way. On the flip side, if you're going portable (my 99% use case, personally), then you want the 90 connector. It makes it so much better and less annoying for the way I keep my BTR5 clipped to my shirt pocket. Straight connectors end up catching things as I move around, where the 90's I have are great for keeping to themselves near the amp. So it just depends on useage - and I feel that for the price of these they could put both in and not be hurting. Hopefully Z can lean on them enough to do so. ;)
Bro can you spare a pair of the multiple tws items you possess, please. I want to do reviews, but I ain't got no coins, right now. You get this stuff for free, and should have no problem donating a pair right. Please, do something good that you'll never forget, please. Can you. I won't tell anyone if you don't want me to. Help a brother out, can you. Give me whatever you're willing to part with, and I'll review them. Help meeeee.
SA6 is popular, I predicted the batch would sell within a week. On the other hand, the Kinera collab wasn't going to do well because not enough people care about the Nanna.
I live in Florida, and I have no idea wtf you’re talking about and I don’t think I care enough to look Ok yea, I like guns and all but that doesn’t sound very good, I went through months of training in the Army and all I can see in the future is more ND’s and brandishing. And lord knows trigger finger discipline
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It's actually impressive that in just a few months they engineered and started producing an updated model. Good job Dunu!
They were probably started when the collab dropped and then did a pivot on the tuning. Figured the Ultra would just get rid of the normal stock I guess. Showed them.
The next time I make headphones, I'm putting speakers on the case. When people ask me why there are speakers on my headphone case I'll reply "I Dunu."
I want to pin this. Lol
I just order the MK2 before I see your video or channel and I’m so happy I bought them on sale 😊
imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
Thanks for asking Dunu for make some more Ultras, even though they ignore that apparently..
Nice insights man @Z Reviews. I'm lovin' both my Ultras and the MK2, keepin' both. What you just mentioned about the MK2, improving on the Ultras, is what I felt about my set. And yes, someone on the same camp of lovin' the S&S tips in XL size 😎👌
Sa6 Ultra with better mids and wider soundstage. We agree that's exactly how the SA6 Mk2 sounds. It will be released on HiFiGo first after April.15th at price lower than US$600
579
@@omoveja8185 Haha just trying to be on the safe side.
This does not seem like a problem. Everyone was sad that SA6 Ultra sold out. Now others might get to enjoy something very very close. We all win. Except maybe those poor souls who might have purchased SA6 Ultra hoping to sell them for a profit?
Na those are rare now. They will always be worth more in my heart.
No one should buy an IEM as an investment. They will decline in value because something new always comes along. And that is not a bad thing.
@@jamesmiller4487 I feel like youre right about IEMs being that way. That definitely isn't the case with over ear headphones lol. They retain their value even if outdated and niche
Think the word you’re looking for is imitation?
Wow.. I am.. wow
Mockery
Plagerism 11:39
Sa6 mk2 vs ie600 vs symphonium meteor would be a sweet shootout
your reviews are very lively at the same time informative, it isn't boring to watch and listen. also that studio looks sick and expensive.
I remember the struggle of watching the sub count on the stream lol Congrats Zeos
Don't you dare let seeaudio stop making the rinko. They're rocking my world right now.
Did you know there's a dude just WAILING on a cowbell in sturgill Simpson's "a good look"? Because I didn't until tonight. Now I can't live without it.
Rinko bass is absolutely legit. Love it’s bass!
I would love to get my hands on this opaque tips that comes with the Ultras
I bought the Sa6 ultra (n°z156), i love them for the quality of mediums and trebles. Sometime i feel that they would be perfection with more bass so i boost them with the equalizer and it become great.
'The 3 stages of Zeos'... this is going to be interesting...
The SA6 MK 2 will be available in early May at the price of $579 from our direct shop and select retailers. It will be more widely available globally the following month in June.
Told by Dunu on head-fi.
This is a late comment, but would love thoughts of these compared to the Thieaudio Oracle MKII. Thanks!
To make any silicone tips stick better into your ears and don't pop out of them, you should use a thinner and lighter cable. A thin cable has less weight and won't pull the IEM out of your ears so easy, especially when your ear canals starts to sweat or while you're moving your head or walking. Also, if your ears aren't small, always pick the larger size.
True, I have the MK2 and the included cable is the heaviest I own, and even though I have several KZs and Moondrop IEMS, this is my most expensive IEM with the worst cable. Would not recommend the cable.
"you used to do this is school, uhhhhh, purgatory, wait no, ohhh fuck"
“My bass” - The pettiness and ego is pervasive throughout this (I get it), but glad to hear that there is room for praise and acceptance and that you are not going to war over a good thing being made available.
Don't give yourself credit. All you did was retuned an already excellent IEM. SA6 mk2 is the next version of the SA6, which is all Dunu's!
they refused to make more ultras and make a mk2 so you dont get your cut of the new sales... its a controversy indeed... 🤔
More a dick move but this is cut throat IEM Cyberpunk 2077
those new dunu tips are interesting, do they sell sample packs?
I am working on it
Can you review the xduoo xp-2 Val please
On one hand, I really want to buy this/ultra, but I really want to know how it compares to the Symphonium Meteor
That name keeps popping up. I am gonna have to pursue.
Meteor is better
These will have quite a bit more mid bass than the Meteor. Meteor really focus on the sub bass and upper sparkle, and IMHO they sound stunning, but it's a totally different tuning. The meteor to my ear are similarly tuned to the Hifiman Arya in terms of low end rumble without a bass boost, and quite a bit of air detail.
I've had the SA6 Ultra and really loved them. Sold the tho after comparing them to the Monarch Mk2. I felt like the MMk2 gave me more complex sound. Now after playing with Meteor for the last week, im seriously considering selling the MMk2. That's how good the Meteors are. For me better than the SA6 Ultra, so they can possibly be also better than the SA6 Mk2 but it's a blind judgement, will need to compare them to be 100% sure.
Meteor is more warm and fun, less detail.
sue Dunu, You have my moral support
Na they brought too much good into the world.
How much are they and when are they going to be available ? Website doesn’t provide any of that information.
It will be officially released after the 15th and should be UNDER $600
@@ZReviews good looking !
580$
By now you would think Z had realised that a Chi-fi product last for at most a couple of months before getting replaced by this months sales
Damn. That must’ve been gratifying.
So cool Z, so so cool.
Dunu, I’m talking to you know.
The marketing here, bothers me.
The advertising, GRINDS MY GEARS!
Why, you might ask?
Because I Am Sold.
I’m now planning on BUYING these for My Own Birthday, and I wasn’t even in the market for IEMs, never even owned a pair out of the $50 price point… Now I’m happily setting aside over Five Hundred Dollars like a silly little lamb lead to slaughter.
Dunu. Eat dirt.
Dunu. Consume soil and take my money, I love you. ***Expletives***
Make the Mk2 sound like the old Ultra means people like it, but they don't have to pay Zeos.
Nice setup
Let's be fair, ultra built upon SA6.
This IEM is so expensive for me that live in Brazil. It would be so nice if Dunu makes a "lite" version of this IEM. Like 3D printer shell (I think the shells are handcrafted), a more simple case and a simple cable to reduce costs.
Yeah, please! A Lite version would be awesome.
These are a great pair of IEM. I know this for two reasons:
1. I own a pair
2. BAGAR doesn't like them that much (no surprise)
How does this compare with the Mangird Xenns Top?
Would you call the SA6 MkII good allrounders?
Let’s put this in perspective: How much money did you make out of the deal, and how much time did you put in? Then we can gauge our outrage at this terrible injustice.
Disclaimer: the following is more a defense of free trade/capitalism/how the world works than a defense of Zeos specifically.
Indeed, lets put this in perspective. 300 pairs x $600 cost = $180,000. Lets say his cut was 10%. Thats $18,000. How much time did he put in? Lets say he put in 10 hours of discussion/analysis/etc. Well hey, wait a minute, thats $1,800 an hour! Is it? Why did Dunu collaborate with Zeos? Why didnt they collaborate with you. Is 10 hours really the correct amount of time to analyze? How is value measured? How is "time put in" measured? This youtuber has been analyzing audio and putting out videos almost everyday for 10 years (generalization). Hes built up credibility with a large audience through some level of authenticity (perceived or imagined). If Michael Jordan does an ad for Coca-Cola do you take into consideration the journey to arrive at that ad? The 30 years of practice, the championship rings? How exactly should value be calculated? Is this all a matter of hourly rate? What about level of expertise? What about level of influence. Theres a reason they didnt collaborate with me or you. You are coming at this from a "labor theory of value" perspective. This is a Marxist view of how this transaction should work. If i spend 50 hours to build you a desk and a professional spends 20 hours building you a desk - i will be able to charge $100 dollars for my desk because it'll be shit. A professional can charge $5,000 for his desk. Not because he spent 20 hours on it. Because the labor theory of value is not how the real world works. His application of years of experience isnt simply quantified by "hours worked on your specific item". Its not surprising that someone who espouses a marxist view of economics would post this. As Jordan Peterson said, "they dont love the poor, they just hate the rich". Hopefully that puts things in perspective, if not for you, at least for others reading your "criticism".
@@TheTastefulThickness Not criticism as you state. Zeos went to the airwaves seeking sympathy. I'm interested in knowing the full story before drawing a conclusion. Obviously they went to Zeus for the exposure - fine! smart! But in my opinion they were unlikely seeking expertise. I find Zeos an entertainer, not an informer no matter how many videos he has put out, or headphones he's tried. The channel is primarily boobs and dick jokes. I really can't imagine Zeos doing anything but saying "hey, if you make it warm and fun I'll put my name behind. it." I can't see him in a serious back-and-forth sweating the details. So in a perfect capitalist dog-eat-dog system, things worked out fairly and as expected. Zeos got some compensation for lending his name and exposure. Unfortunately for Zeos, he underestimated sales, blundered in negotiations, and didn't/couldn't read the market. Dunu capatalized on his naïveté - bravo, right?. Your Jordan would be quite happy with the outcome.
@e2o My guy, you're subscribed to The Lincoln Project.
@@TheTastefulThickness Hello again. I think we probably have a lot more in common than not. We can take this chat private if you like, not really pertinent here.
I want to try these so bad it’s not even funny… I want to try the SA6 Ultra even more… 😅
I hope you have a FiiO FT3 headphone on the way. They’re something special…..
Apos is sending a set
Sadly, I can't wear IEM's. my ears don't do well when I push things into them. =/
I have issues many sounds, but good music and iem can work, but some TH-cam video could make my misophonia rage
What open back headphone would sound like the SA6 Ultra under $500 Zeos?
There is always room for improvement. I bet the tuning of sa6 ultra doesg suit everyone.
Strait termination! PREACH!
How much better are these over the 7Hz Timeless?
Timeless AE is the only timeless that matters. And yes. These. Yes.
Infinitely better than the Timeless.
Hearing aid wipes… how to clean tips without ruining them
Thank you for this. Been using my shirt and microfiber cloths but it's less than ideal.
the la 90 not being black looks soooo weird lol
Damn a night time video 😳
Forgot to get it done this morning.
I dunno. I feel like they shouldn't have cut you out of the update, especially after you requested they make more of them. That doesn't feel right. It appears that they wanted to Capitalize on the success of your collaboration and but not having to share the profits this time. Maybe there's something I'm missing, but I don't respect that.
Just telling me a Mk2 was coming would have been enough. Even if they didn't want to collab on it.
Welcome to Asian business practices. Tbh... If you have been in this game so long, you should know that by now.
It's not so much about the product - it's about Zeos. I've agreed for quite a few years that Zeos knows good sound. Now we know that Zeos can help tweak things for good sound. So one product vs the person who helped make that product what it is? I'd rather have access to the man that inspired the product. And no, Zeos is not an engineer, but he knows good sound.
Bent connector bad. Straight connector good. Yup… True in many ways. Yup… Hey, stop looking at me that way. You are thinking it too, and it just had to be said!
The depends entirely on use case. If you're staying at a desk on fixed amps, then yes - straight connector all the way. On the flip side, if you're going portable (my 99% use case, personally), then you want the 90 connector. It makes it so much better and less annoying for the way I keep my BTR5 clipped to my shirt pocket. Straight connectors end up catching things as I move around, where the 90's I have are great for keeping to themselves near the amp.
So it just depends on useage - and I feel that for the price of these they could put both in and not be hurting. Hopefully Z can lean on them enough to do so. ;)
Mentally yelling, "IMITATION", but forgery or purgery work too 🤣
Bro can you spare a pair of the multiple tws items you possess, please. I want to do reviews, but I ain't got no coins, right now. You get this stuff for free, and should have no problem donating a pair right. Please, do something good that you'll never forget, please. Can you. I won't tell anyone if you don't want me to. Help a brother out, can you. Give me whatever you're willing to part with, and I'll review them. Help meeeee.
Top "2". KATO's and TEA 2's. So I'm done, yet here I am. Best, D.
My top 2 as well. They’re both so freaking good
@@shaunbrady15😺, D.
A low res high res sticker....
SA6 is popular, I predicted the batch would sell within a week.
On the other hand, the Kinera collab wasn't going to do well because not enough people care about the Nanna.
Nanna bae. I need to bring the good word.
Na its not gd
Old one cuter n more nicer sound. end
peace butter!
The price it is too much
Its the same price as the original it seems
I live in Florida, and I have no idea wtf you’re talking about and I don’t think I care enough to look
Ok yea, I like guns and all but that doesn’t sound very good, I went through months of training in the Army and all I can see in the future is more ND’s and brandishing. And lord knows trigger finger discipline
permit-less concealed carry for all. Good Concept... BUT
Hifigo has them listed for purchase at $9,999.00
It will be officially released after the 15th and should be UNDER $600
@@ZReviews i bought them anyway
It was mentioned that it'll retail at SRP $579