@@nade78 not to mention it has great crowd control. I personally love it over the shrapnel build, even though shrapnel apparently the best DPS. I’ll take this anyday.
So what I havent seen on youtube is whats the pros and cons of going with sheltherd vs lonewolf set? Like is the crit better in frost vortex or elemental?
Similar to mine only I've still to get a Bastille gear. For hunting normal monster and farming material, I use the shotgun instead to save ammo. Remember not only to use the Living Armour potion but also the Spring Legs potion. It is easier to high jump and glide away than to dodge monsters...and easier to jump onto higher ledges. Jumping high also helps to quickly gather gear/weapon crates during farming runs. You can also shoot as you jump and fall but be careful not to jump too high or you might break your legs if you did not glide down in time.
Can you make a video discussing the choice between Lonewolf+Bastille vs lonewolf+shelterer. A lot of guides recommended either type of gear combination but nobody go into details of the logic behind the choices. Lonewolf+Bastille gives bigger crit damage and a bit boost of weapon damage but is it any better than having a higher elemental damage through the Shelterer set?
So update I went to complete the build now but yet I tried to run greed monolith pro and I was doing only like half the damage per bullet like 1.6k per tick on cdmg and 1.5k vortexes, and only max of 2.2k with de pistol debuff, im in a rut how to optimize the build further, Do i need to farm now for better substats?. Idk if i need to hit a certain point for dmg to boss/great ones/crit dmg ratio need to make this work
hi , i am new to game and just lvl 20. Can you make such fun builds guide based on levels? like lvl 5-15, lvl 15-20 etc. That way it is easy to go for those due to resource availability constraints.
I have a question, I’ve been using this build for a while and it’s fun, however I really like the desert eagles. But I’m stuck between getting the wildfire or the jaws. I don’t know what is more worth, switching my build towards jaws or just keeping my frost vortex build and just getting the wildfire. What do you think is more worth?
@@nade78 oh i didnt know shrapnel was not fit for pvp. i am hard leaning towards this build, almost finished it, and i like how it actually crowd controls mobs. but ye it does eat up a lot ammo. im wondering if this build can solo lea pro?
so i just finished making this build, vice the entire set of crit mods because I haven't grinded enough to get them all yet. But I'm still confused as to HOW the build allows for auto reloading? I can understand the healing part of it with frosty blessings, but I don't see anything in this build that explicitly tells me that it will auto reload? Is it the crit multipliers? The calibration itself? Thanks!
The auto reload perk is built into the gun. Everytime frost vortex pops you get 15% of bullet's returned. So if you have big enough magazine capacity and high enough crit rate to pop frost vortex often you won't have to reload.
What am I not seeing where you reload procs so much? I have a mod but requires 2 kills to reload. Which of yours in this video are proc’ing your constant reloads? Thanks in advance
You can feed it R500 memento Pistol, HAMR Sniper, MG4 LMG Legendary blueprint Fragments. But i highly do not recommend any of these because they are legendary Guns. Instead check if you have SMG mp5 blue tiger, Pistol G17, LMG Mg4 blueprint fragments they all drop from the open world and you can use them. Also you can feed it the stun baton bp fragments but keep in mind that you might need it in future or some mission.
It's so fun cuz of the high fire rate and insane healing + auto reload. Only downside is that it's kinda short on range, the weapon got pretty high recoil and it chews through ammo like they are nothing. But it's definitely a fun build for sure. If I can get the Kam abyss glance i think I can make a very viable end game build with minimal change to this current build.
@@nade78 yea def great gun to play all around my fav trying to see which gun best utilizes the vortex , overall cant wait to see what else you try out these builds take some time to max out
thanks for the video! instead of the wildfire or recurve crossbow, would it work to use the bull's eye aws.338 sniper as a secondary weapon? Or is the wildfire pistol better?
Try out different things. I m in scenario 2 hard server and I found out it's better to build depending on ur scenario for various reasons rather than just sticking with one. But sticking with one works as well. I got bunch of builds on my channel and you can watch em all and decide. If you play and do objectives regularly starchrome is not that crazy to get.
Only works for some content. Most important high end bosses are IMMUNE to Frost, Fire, Shock, Blast. I found out the hard way, but luckily Icy viens was my second build, not main.
@@nade78 Ah I thought there was a frost vortex thing that heals off it I was missing. Since Autoheal was in the title but it seems that mod was an after thought that you added for crit.
Majority of the starchrome I got from seasonal phase reward and I bought blueprints with it aside from that I did all the missions and chests and everything that's how I got them. I did lost 8k starchrom in the first 2 phases tho because I didn't know bout the refinement process.
Seasonal Rewards, Weekly Purification (40 each week. level 1 cortex gives you i think 70 each, level 2 cortex 85 each and level 3 cortex 100 each; get some people to do them so its easier for you), Events from the Event Tab, Your Journey Tab, Quests i think aswell?... and probably something else which does not come in mind right now.
It may be worse then the abyss but damn if i dont try to make it work anyway. If you want more damage you can also try to stack crit via fire axe heavy or kukri heavy kills
UPDATE: The build has been nerfed as the latest update removed the heal tick from a frost nova being REPLACED by another one. Heals do not work fast enough to tank anymore. Get rid of the heal mod guys and use a better one
Nah it’s the correct mod. You can’t trust the heals to tank damage as much anymore like in your video as they have bugfixed the delay before you start healing.
Weakspot damage bonus is irrelevant if you are not scaling it with mods. So not having weakspot damage is not a problem. You can still hit weakspots to activate other buffs though so you still want to aim at them
@@yourvenparianen5390 it's actually not. It's a damage modifier that is enhanced by you base damage and your crit. You can crit a weak spot. So it's actually best to have a good combination of weak spot, crit, crit damage, and weapon damage
now im going to say this for all the builds ive found on YT, as ive tried this and the KAM one you have. Im lucky to get 1 vortex spawn and its generally when mobs (elites and such) are on 1hp and ive had the reload mechanic work like two or three times only reloading 3 rounds. idk if its how im doing things but it seems like all these build videos are akin to the shitty mobile ads that advertise one thing but aren't even remotely the same. and like no hate at all, im just hella confused at why this is the case
Kam you need to build differently to get auto reload and as for the smg here the gun itself got built in auto reload when it procs frost vortex and the frost vortex pops a lot when you got high enough crit rate. Look at 03:43 you will see me drop down to nearly empty mag to full mag again all while fighting a level 50 hard monolith boss. I think your build is lacking crit that's why you don't pop frost vortex and if you don't pop frost vortex you won't get any ammo back
I need to change and farm few mods but unfortunately I ran out of controllers so when weekly refresh happens I will make a follow up updated version of this build with pro silo run.
frost, sharpnel and surge is too op right now.. hope they buff the others as well specially burn and bounce .. bounce would be good if it could bounce on enemy distance of 15m.
this is the exact build I was looking for. thanks
You are welcome
people talk crap on this weapon and build in general but i see shrapnel users dying left and right while im forever alive
This build got one of the highest sustainability out of all builds. Sure it eats ammo like cake but it got its perks
@@nade78 not to mention it has great crowd control. I personally love it over the shrapnel build, even though shrapnel apparently the best DPS. I’ll take this anyday.
Don't blame my shrapnel build on me dying, I'm just bad...
@voodoopup4376 nah don't worry pretty sure u were bored and wasn't trying
This gun screams backpack expansion (for 10k ammo per boss) and Hand Repair Deviant.
You are right 🤣
I really tried to make this gun work for end game contents, unfortunately it chews through ammo and durability like termites eating wood.
Hahaha unfortunately you are right. Just transition to kam abyss glance rifle when you can if you want to stick with frost vortex build.
That may be the case but I enjoy seeing the team reload meanwhile me who had a better gattling gun than the ravenous hunter 😂
Big Chad moment right there 🤣
Yea this gun is just burn your reserve ammo fast af thats why im using sharpnel socr with no reload build with moderate damage like 8k per bullet
Hello, thx for sharing this build.Thats great.
Thanks glad you liked it 😊
So what I havent seen on youtube is whats the pros and cons of going with sheltherd vs lonewolf set? Like is the crit better in frost vortex or elemental?
I have yet to do further testing as I don't have shelter myself unfortunately
Similar to mine only I've still to get a Bastille gear. For hunting normal monster and farming material, I use the shotgun instead to save ammo. Remember not only to use the Living Armour potion but also the Spring Legs potion. It is easier to high jump and glide away than to dodge monsters...and easier to jump onto higher ledges. Jumping high also helps to quickly gather gear/weapon crates during farming runs. You can also shoot as you jump and fall but be careful not to jump too high or you might break your legs if you did not glide down in time.
Great tips 👍
Can you make a video discussing the choice between Lonewolf+Bastille vs lonewolf+shelterer. A lot of guides recommended either type of gear combination but nobody go into details of the logic behind the choices. Lonewolf+Bastille gives bigger crit damage and a bit boost of weapon damage but is it any better than having a higher elemental damage through the Shelterer set?
Thanks for the suggestion. I will do it once I get my hands on shelterer armors
Beautifully concise video, mate. Would loved to know the numbers it does against a training dummy though
Thanks. I will include that from now on my upcoming videos. As for the numbers here ya go - postimg.cc/hhHFZktk postimg.cc/rdpYwjpG
Im still looking for the assault style blueprint
ow man sorry to hear. thats unfortunate.
So update I went to complete the build now but yet I tried to run greed monolith pro and I was doing only like half the damage per bullet like 1.6k per tick on cdmg and 1.5k vortexes, and only max of 2.2k with de pistol debuff, im in a rut how to optimize the build further, Do i need to farm now for better substats?. Idk if i need to hit a certain point for dmg to boss/great ones/crit dmg ratio need to make this work
You need better substats for sure. In this game I found out most damage comes from your mods and it's stats. They stack like crazy.
@@nade78 which one is more important, weapon dmg or crit dmg?
Crit damage
@@nade78 awesome thnx thnx
would be useful if you said where the different mods dropped. thanks for a great build.
Thanks. I did that on my other build videos after. I plan to make a follow up updated build of this one that will be even better.
@@nade78 great, waiting for that. Started my build today (nearly same as you, minus the mods;) Appreciate your work!
Glad you liked it
I'm wondering if Mask Mod "Lingering Frost - Talents" would be better than Crit Damage Enhancement?
For bossing I think it would be better. I wanted to try with that mod but I ran out of controllers and still mod didn't drop.
hi , i am new to game and just lvl 20. Can you make such fun builds guide based on levels? like lvl 5-15, lvl 15-20 etc. That way it is easy to go for those due to resource availability constraints.
I will keep that in mind.Thanks for the suggestion. You level up super fast in this game tho. Just do main quests and your weekly commissions.
I have a question, I’ve been using this build for a while and it’s fun, however I really like the desert eagles. But I’m stuck between getting the wildfire or the jaws. I don’t know what is more worth, switching my build towards jaws or just keeping my frost vortex build and just getting the wildfire. What do you think is more worth?
I say Go for jaws. It shreds hard. Check out my latest video to see it's damage potential and decide for yourself.
@@nade78 I knew it lmao, it’s done
@@nade78 it’s just I don’t have any of the lone wolf pieces
You can use with shelterer or falcon set for now and use all talents mod and switch to lonewolf and violent when u can manage
is this build still relevant in the new season? im trying to keep my shrapnel build for mainly pvp and this one for running dungeons
Shrapnel is bad for pvp and ye this build still works. Eats up a lot of ammo is the only downside of this build
@@nade78 oh i didnt know shrapnel was not fit for pvp. i am hard leaning towards this build, almost finished it, and i like how it actually crowd controls mobs. but ye it does eat up a lot ammo. im wondering if this build can solo lea pro?
It can but frost is not the top dog. The best for pve is surge then unstable bomber and 3rd is shrapnel
so i just finished making this build, vice the entire set of crit mods because I haven't grinded enough to get them all yet. But I'm still confused as to HOW the build allows for auto reloading? I can understand the healing part of it with frosty blessings, but I don't see anything in this build that explicitly tells me that it will auto reload? Is it the crit multipliers? The calibration itself? Thanks!
Its the guns intrinsic perk
Reloads x% of the mag when creating a frost vortex
The auto reload perk is built into the gun. Everytime frost vortex pops you get 15% of bullet's returned. So if you have big enough magazine capacity and high enough crit rate to pop frost vortex often you won't have to reload.
What am I not seeing where you reload procs so much? I have a mod but requires 2 kills to reload. Which of yours in this video are proc’ing your constant reloads? Thanks in advance
The gun perk is reloading it self. When frost vortex pops you reload a portion of your ammo.
nice build but what blue print do i need to buy to upgreade this smg ?
You can feed it R500 memento Pistol, HAMR Sniper, MG4 LMG Legendary blueprint Fragments. But i highly do not recommend any of these because they are legendary Guns. Instead check if you have SMG mp5 blue tiger, Pistol G17, LMG Mg4 blueprint fragments they all drop from the open world and you can use them. Also you can feed it the stun baton bp fragments but keep in mind that you might need it in future or some mission.
nice video 👍🏻
Thanks
i see yu gave the build a shot . how do you like it compared to other builds?
It's so fun cuz of the high fire rate and insane healing + auto reload. Only downside is that it's kinda short on range, the weapon got pretty high recoil and it chews through ammo like they are nothing. But it's definitely a fun build for sure. If I can get the Kam abyss glance i think I can make a very viable end game build with minimal change to this current build.
@@nade78 yea def great gun to play all around my fav trying to see which gun best utilizes the vortex , overall cant wait to see what else you try out these builds take some time to max out
Hopefully I will get my hands on some starchrome next week so I can try out different things.
thanks for the video! instead of the wildfire or recurve crossbow, would it work to use the bull's eye aws.338 sniper as a secondary weapon? Or is the wildfire pistol better?
Any bullseye weapon would work. It's mostly personal preference here as long as you are marking them with whatever.
So what deals more damage Shrapnel or Frost Vortex?
Shrapnel and by a lot. But frost vortex is just a tank while shrapnel is more like a glass canon
@@nade78 Oh, I ask because I’m still trying to decide what to build for. Though I would like to kill things as fast as possible.
Try out different things. I m in scenario 2 hard server and I found out it's better to build depending on ur scenario for various reasons rather than just sticking with one. But sticking with one works as well. I got bunch of builds on my channel and you can watch em all and decide. If you play and do objectives regularly starchrome is not that crazy to get.
@@nade78 I definitely would if I had the Starchrom but I don’t have enough to even get one build going yet.
any guide to get ICY RAIN SMG?
You can get it from the mystical crate in Rotten Saddle Stronghold in the Chalk Peak region.
Hello, How to make the auto reloading system?
It's a perk of that smg. Just make sure you have enough mag capacity mods equipped.
@@nade78 I guess I don't understand, but the next video has SORC and sudden reloud too
Sorc reloads from the sharpnel souvenir weapon mod
Only works for some content. Most important high end bosses are IMMUNE to Frost, Fire, Shock, Blast. I found out the hard way, but luckily Icy viens was my second build, not main.
Ye all elemental builds needs some buffs for those bosses
How are you getting the auto heal effect?
From the frosty blessings mod on the gun.
@nade78 thanks for the reply Nade, great video. last question. where can i find the mod?
You are welcome. Glad you liked it. This mod drops from the monolith of thirst shadow hound boss
So, just to be sure, the mod drops in the thirst shadow and not the ravenous hunter?
I m so sorry that was my bad the mod drops from the ravenous hunter.
Where Can i find those icy rain calibration attributes?
04:37 mark. I am running assault style calibration blueprint which gave me attack +20% , magazine capacity -25% , accuracy -50
Crit rate +5.1%
Crit rate +9%
@@nade78 and where to find this calibration? just open world or farm specific inst?
Farm hard/ pro silo monolith for best Chance and farm open world weapon chests
Other than the top mod, what else is healing you if anything?
I m not sure if there are other mods for healing sorry.
@@nade78 Ah I thought there was a frost vortex thing that heals off it I was missing. Since Autoheal was in the title but it seems that mod was an after thought that you added for crit.
Ahh yes
@@nade78 I'm probably just thinking about the frozen northern pike.
How did you get that much guns and armour because I can't get
Majority of the starchrome I got from seasonal phase reward and I bought blueprints with it aside from that I did all the missions and chests and everything that's how I got them. I did lost 8k starchrom in the first 2 phases tho because I didn't know bout the refinement process.
Seasonal Rewards, Weekly Purification (40 each week. level 1 cortex gives you i think 70 each, level 2 cortex 85 each and level 3 cortex 100 each; get some people to do them so its easier for you), Events from the Event Tab, Your Journey Tab, Quests i think aswell?... and probably something else which does not come in mind right now.
It may be worse then the abyss but damn if i dont try to make it work anyway. If you want more damage you can also try to stack crit via fire axe heavy or kukri heavy kills
UPDATE: The build has been nerfed as the latest update removed the heal tick from a frost nova being REPLACED by another one. Heals do not work fast enough to tank anymore. Get rid of the heal mod guys and use a better one
What do you mean. I saw no change to the mod
@@nade78maybe I got the wrong video. I was talking about the weapon mod which heals you for 10% when a frost vortex ends
Nah it’s the correct mod. You can’t trust the heals to tank damage as much anymore like in your video as they have bugfixed the delay before you start healing.
I see. I haven't tested the build recently but thanks for pointing it out. Update - it is fixed in a recent hot fix so the heal should work fine now
its fixed now tho
I really think the no weakspot extra crit mod is bait. Having multiple additive damage bonuses that stack on each other is much better.
I see but from the limited tests I've done no weak spot works quite well with shrapnel but not sure bout other builds.
@@nade78 true. That's because shrapnel can crit elemental DMG cannot crit unfortunately.
Weakspot damage bonus is irrelevant if you are not scaling it with mods. So not having weakspot damage is not a problem. You can still hit weakspots to activate other buffs though so you still want to aim at them
@@yourvenparianen5390 it's actually not. It's a damage modifier that is enhanced by you base damage and your crit. You can crit a weak spot. So it's actually best to have a good combination of weak spot, crit, crit damage, and weapon damage
Dmg per sec?
I don't have raw numbers but you can look at the damage ticks numbers and make a rough estimation.
@@nade78 Can you use the build to shoot at dummy with buffs and no buffs and comment please 🥺?
Here ya go - postimg.cc/hhHFZktk postimg.cc/rdpYwjpG
op
Not sure if it's the most op but hella fun for sure
now im going to say this for all the builds ive found on YT, as ive tried this and the KAM one you have. Im lucky to get 1 vortex spawn and its generally when mobs (elites and such) are on 1hp and ive had the reload mechanic work like two or three times only reloading 3 rounds. idk if its how im doing things but it seems like all these build videos are akin to the shitty mobile ads that advertise one thing but aren't even remotely the same. and like no hate at all, im just hella confused at why this is the case
Kam you need to build differently to get auto reload and as for the smg here the gun itself got built in auto reload when it procs frost vortex and the frost vortex pops a lot when you got high enough crit rate. Look at 03:43 you will see me drop down to nearly empty mag to full mag again all while fighting a level 50 hard monolith boss. I think your build is lacking crit that's why you don't pop frost vortex and if you don't pop frost vortex you won't get any ammo back
vortex spawns on critical hit so you need high crit chance
the real test is is this build good for pro runs
I need to change and farm few mods but unfortunately I ran out of controllers so when weekly refresh happens I will make a follow up updated version of this build with pro silo run.
Icy rain is not good for farm, but for pvp its the best for me. Bullet is also like the name, 18k bullet just go like the icy rain 🤣🤣🤣
Ye it vanishes so fast 🤣🤣
frost, sharpnel and surge is too op right now.. hope they buff the others as well specially burn and bounce .. bounce would be good if it could bounce on enemy distance of 15m.
Faster gunner is the most broken though
Burn is op too ppl just haven’t posted it 😂 every fun effect is good rn tbh
I heard unstable is the most op but I m not sure tho. Fast gunner is imba from what I've seen 🤣🤣
@@nade78 I mean I'm getting 60k dps with predator using only steel ammo and no buffs.
everything is op... except Bounce, so, "whatever floats your boat".
Whats wrong with the durability this update, the durability goes down so fast as my father went to get milk 😂
Oh shit man 🤣🤣 ye the durability is going down hella fast this update. Something is bugged or they nerfed it like crazy.