Thanks for the video, I also have a 1976 Evinrude 6hp outboard. This conversion worked great....however I learned something IMPORTANT. When installing you must be extremely careful NOT to leave too long a wire underneath the fly wheel. If you do it will rip all your work apart in a heartbeat. So.....when you install these chips here are the hints I learned. 1) remove the old points and condensers....but KEEP all the screws and parts as you can reuse them for the installation of the Nova II. 2) I used splice connectors to attach the chip sets. Keep the wires short as you can. 3) Be very careful to keep all wiring below the level where they will be hit by the flywheel. 4) Drill out the Nova II chip hole to 5/32 so you can slide it over the old points pivot post. (keep the old clip from the points post) 5) Using about 5 (number 10) washers you can keep the chip down and the old clip will hold it in place 6) if you loose one of the clips as I did....you can use something else to hold down the Nova chip. 7) use the old screw from the condenser to attach your ground wire. 8) once completed tuck all wires neatly down to avoid contact with the flywheel. This is a 6hp motor so it has a bit more room than the motor shown in the video above. 9) I set the spark plug gap at .30 inches. This seemed to work well. The motor started up nicely and ran smoothly. Good luck with your conversion. Sorry.....I tried to upload photos but was not allowed or able to do so.
Hi! Thanks for the video. I managed to place the nova's inside the flywheel by fabricating a smal aluminum bracket on the coils (1964 evinrude 3HP). Works like a charm!
Kodi, Thanks for the video, I have a 6 Hp Evinrude that I am going to do exactly the same thing too! Your presentation couldn't have came at a better time. By-the-way, the carburetor is working fine. James & Karen Smith, Arkansas
Hello. I have a 1946 Johnson Sea Horse 5 hp. TD 20. I replaced the points and did everything I believe to be right. Can't get no spark. I tested the coil and they run 8k all the way to the sparkplug wire tip. I did have spark on one cylinder before removing points, but I don't think I can even find points.
Kodi, I have nothing but respect. You’re a hell of an outboard mechanic and teacher. Can we buy them still? I’m currently working on a ‘67 5hp Evinrude Angler. It has the 6hp powerhead and the 4hp lowerend. It’d be a great candidate for these chips as well. Cheers from Ontario, Canada.
Kodi, Marvelous video watched it several times,I have just installed nova 11chip on my yamaha -95-A single cylinder , air-cooled 5hp outboard 1970 the engine was running good on points and condensor, I tested for spark during the process, but now when I try to start I just get a single backfire and nothing else,I have not changed the coil as was running and sparking good can you suggest anything, Best regards Brian (UK)
How does that chip dwell or is it even a factor? I mean the timing would have to be on flywheel for dwell seems like it would be hard to time just right because no point dwell timing.
Did you wire the coils on the positive side or the negative side of the module. I just bought some for my outboard, and they offer 2 ways to wire, a positive and negative way.
Thanks for the video Kodi. After watching I'm keen to fit a Nova II on my 1981 Suzuki DT3.5 but it looks like it has 4 magnets in the flywheel and I've read that the Nova II don't work in multiple magnet flywheels. How did you overcome this?
Hi Kodi! I have a 20hp chrysler and one of the points is different than the other one. I have look across the internet and can’t find the right one. Will you recommend using the Nova 2?
I Have a 1961 Johnson 5 1/2 HP motor that I did the Points on about 5 years ago. "new points and coils Plus spark plug wires". I was always wanting to do this for years. I recently came across two STENS Mega-Fire Modules 44--065 do you think they would make good candidates for this.jim
I have a 1964 14.1hp McCulloch. I haven’t been lucky with the nova chips . The motor came to me without points and condensers installed it had nova chips installed on it . Any way to test the chips or any tips would be great
Kodi I have a 9.9 Ted Johnson with a solid state ignition. The stator plate I believe is bad and no longer made. Only CDI make them but 289.00 for a new one. Question is could I do away with that and use a atom or Nova chip so I can get spark? It's a twin cylinder so I know I would need two chips. Thankyou for any help on this
+Mark Williams, If your outboard is not a points & condenser type ignition the chips will not adapt & provide spark, These modules get there spark via the coil winding's & two switch transistors inside them as the flywheel magnets pass the coils, If yours is solid state (as you say) it has a capacitor discharge ignition that works thru a scr & wound not fire these chips. kodi
@@kodibassInsideoutboards do you have any videos showing how to test this type. I've found some close but not quite like it. Tell if I'm wrong but the piece under the flywheel is the stator correct? It have four blocks mounted to the plate
"+@@MarkWilliams-yx7bx, under the flywheel you have 2 coils, 2 condensers & 2 sets of points, The nova chips on this engine would not fit under the flywheel so I mounted them outside on the block, Also these nova chips seem to burn up quick on a 2 cylinder outboard. I am in the process of trying the john deere / kawasaki chips to see if the work better, stand by for the results kodi
@@kodibassInsideoutboards mine is solid state so no points or condenser on it. My coils are mounted on each h side of the head with one wire. Attaching to them from under the flywheel. Under the flywheel is a plate with two big and four small something mounted to it on the smaller onehave the magnet metal in the center of them. I'm thinking it's a stator from what I've read on the solid state ignition and the cowling says it also. Just can't find a video on how to troubleshoot it. All I've seen has like ten small. Locks all the way around it. This flywheel has a magnet on it
Jbeli Mariem, This chips are used mostly for small engines such as chainsaws & lawn equipment. They will run a 2 cycle outboard in place of points but I do not know if they would perform well or how long they would last. I would stick with what your motor came with. kodi
I have 3 leads coming off my coils. I think one is ground and the other 2 I don't know what to do with them. do I tie those 2 together and put them on the positive side of the Chip? I am using the Nova II chips.
+Don Gesswin, Yes the 2 non-ground tie together for your stop switch, The other goes to ground to the coil body, Please keep in mind I have not tested these chips under real world use / conditions. I did manage to get the motor to run in my test tank on them... kodi
Haha😎 you actually can use those too lol. Sorry lol cant resist. Actually I am also trying to restore a 1980 worktwin 6hp evinrude. Cant find the ignition coils anyway. Maybe will put in a lawnmover engine if I cant find the needed parts. So what with yours lol, after knowing what the nova chips are.
I just did this on a old Chrysler 30 hp I got great spark but for the life of me I cant get it to pop over. It is like the timing is way off or something. Even a little starting fluid and I still cant get it to fire. It did fire on points prior sort of that is why I replaced it. as I said great looking spark. But just wont fire or run. any Idea?
@@kodibassInsideoutboards Ok I figured it out. I swap the wires on the solid state units and it works! I have it on my 24ft pontoon been cruising around on the river . But I think it should be faster at full throttle. I checked it at the motor and all the linkages max out and it sounds fine. However after it warms up it likes to idle real low and die. also could these electronic replacements for the points and condensers keep it from running at top performance?
@@luiyihdez3 oh you do unfortunately the motor is all together and on my boat and I don't really want to pull the fly wheel. but it is not that hard. but I recommend not putting them under the flywheel like I did. The wires kept getting caught on the magnet. I have just installed the same thing on a 8 hp Evinrude and I could make a video on that if you like it basically the same thing.
Hi. Mate of mine does full proper cdi ignition kit for these old motors and it is much better than this nova kit. I have his recent video of converting 4hp evinrude from points to cdi. That video is in Russian but you can turn subtitles on. If anybody needs a kit like this or has any questions,just cotact me and i will help. If interested in buying cdi kit,the price is arround 80-90 bucks.
@@reneortiz2033 its just a kit that he makes from scratch. This is the kit zazhiganie.com/products/elektronnoe-zazhiganie-dlja-lodochnogo-motora-johnson-evenrud. Its in Russian though,but there are pictures and you can understand what it is
Thanks for the video, I also have a 1976 Evinrude 6hp outboard. This conversion worked great....however I learned something IMPORTANT.
When installing you must be extremely careful NOT to leave too long a wire underneath the fly wheel. If you do it will rip all your work apart in a heartbeat. So.....when you install these chips here are the hints I learned.
1) remove the old points and condensers....but KEEP all the screws and parts as you can reuse them for the installation of the Nova II.
2) I used splice connectors to attach the chip sets. Keep the wires short as you can.
3) Be very careful to keep all wiring below the level where they will be hit by the flywheel.
4) Drill out the Nova II chip hole to 5/32 so you can slide it over the old points pivot post. (keep the old clip from the points post)
5) Using about 5 (number 10) washers you can keep the chip down and the old clip will hold it in place
6) if you loose one of the clips as I did....you can use something else to hold down the Nova chip.
7) use the old screw from the condenser to attach your ground wire.
8) once completed tuck all wires neatly down to avoid contact with the flywheel. This is a 6hp motor so it has a bit more room than the motor shown in the video above.
9) I set the spark plug gap at .30 inches. This seemed to work well.
The motor started up nicely and ran smoothly.
Good luck with your conversion.
Sorry.....I tried to upload photos but was not allowed or able to do so.
How is you're motor after 2 yes now?
Hi! Thanks for the video.
I managed to place the nova's inside the flywheel by fabricating a smal aluminum bracket on the coils (1964 evinrude 3HP).
Works like a charm!
+Theo Kuypers , Watch my next video, same subject but things came up.
kodi
@@kodibassInsideoutboards Hello Kodi. Did these problems whit the nova chips occur on all outboards?
Thanks for the video. I might try one of these on an old 4hp 1cyl AILSA CRAIG outboard.
Kodi, Thanks for the video, I have a 6 Hp Evinrude that I am going to do exactly the same thing too! Your presentation couldn't have came at a better time. By-the-way, the carburetor is working fine.
James & Karen Smith, Arkansas
+James Smith, Glad to hear the carb worked out, I just sold that little motor, but I have another just like it. kodi
Hello. I have a 1946 Johnson Sea Horse 5 hp. TD 20. I replaced the points and did everything I believe to be right. Can't get no spark. I tested the coil and they run 8k all the way to the sparkplug wire tip. I did have spark on one cylinder before removing points, but I don't think I can even find points.
BTW I do not have a magnetic flywheel.
Thank you so much for this vid Kodi!
+Magnus Wahlberg, You are most welcome, Hope this was what you wanted, & good luck if you decide to go the Nova route. kodi
Kodi, I have nothing but respect. You’re a hell of an outboard mechanic and teacher. Can we buy them still? I’m currently working on a ‘67 5hp Evinrude Angler. It has the 6hp powerhead and the 4hp lowerend. It’d be a great candidate for these chips as well. Cheers from Ontario, Canada.
+George Keats, Yes the Nova chips are available, just do a ebay search & you will see many. HP is unimportant they will work on any points motor. kodi
I have a Nova2 in a 1965 cast iron 10hp Briggs. 6 years and still fires up .
+Metalworks Machine Shop, Thanks for sharing , I was wondering if they are durable & will hold up, sounds like they do. thank's kodi
Kodi,
Marvelous video watched it several times,I have just installed nova 11chip on my yamaha -95-A single cylinder , air-cooled 5hp outboard 1970
the engine was running good on points and condensor, I tested for spark during the process, but now when I try to start I just get a single backfire and nothing else,I have not changed the coil as was running and sparking good can you suggest anything, Best regards Brian (UK)
Do they mention a transiter use a base compound to keep heat transfer because I guess it’s a switching transitor like the points were doing
Have a Merc 200. Nova Chips work on that?
Depends on year, Will only work on motors with contact points. kodibass
@@kodibassInsideoutboards 10-4
How does that chip dwell or is it even a factor? I mean the timing would have to be on flywheel for dwell seems like it would be hard to time just right because no point dwell timing.
First here.
Thanks Kodi for this info.!
+Peter Yeung, You are most welcome, thanks for watching
kodi
Did you wire the coils on the positive side or the negative side of the module. I just bought some for my outboard, and they offer 2 ways to wire, a positive and negative way.
Thanks for the video Kodi. After watching I'm keen to fit a Nova II on my 1981 Suzuki DT3.5 but it looks like it has 4 magnets in the flywheel and I've read that the Nova II don't work in multiple magnet flywheels. How did you overcome this?
Did you put on the Nova pick modules ..??
Hi Kodi! I have a 20hp chrysler and one of the points is different than the other one. I have look across the internet and can’t find the right one. Will you recommend using the Nova 2?
I Have a 1961 Johnson 5 1/2 HP motor that I did the Points on about 5 years ago. "new points and coils Plus spark plug wires". I was always wanting to do this for years.
I recently came across two STENS Mega-Fire Modules 44--065 do you think they would make good candidates for this.jim
jim maddog, Yes those 440-065 stens will work just fine. kodi
I have a 1964 14.1hp McCulloch. I haven’t been lucky with the nova chips . The motor came to me without points and condensers installed it had nova chips installed on it . Any way to test the chips or any tips would be great
+DG, the chips will only work if both the primary & secondary coil winding's are good on the coils. The coil Must test good for the chip 2 work. kodi
Kodi I have a 9.9 Ted Johnson with a solid state ignition. The stator plate I believe is bad and no longer made. Only CDI make them but 289.00 for a new one. Question is could I do away with that and use a atom or Nova chip so I can get spark? It's a twin cylinder so I know I would need two chips. Thankyou for any help on this
+Mark Williams, If your outboard is not a points & condenser type ignition the chips will not adapt & provide spark, These modules get there spark via the coil winding's & two switch transistors inside them as the flywheel magnets pass the coils, If yours is solid state (as you say) it has a capacitor discharge ignition that works thru a scr & wound not fire these chips. kodi
Solid state has it even on the the cowling. Can't find. Video yet that troubleshoots this types of stator that it has. May just junk it.
@@kodibassInsideoutboards do you have any videos showing how to test this type. I've found some close but not quite like it. Tell if I'm wrong but the piece under the flywheel is the stator correct? It have four blocks mounted to the plate
"+@@MarkWilliams-yx7bx, under the flywheel you have 2 coils, 2 condensers & 2 sets of points, The nova chips on this engine would not fit under the flywheel so I mounted them outside on the block, Also these nova chips seem to burn up quick on a 2 cylinder outboard. I am in the process of trying the john deere / kawasaki chips to see if the work better, stand by for the results kodi
@@kodibassInsideoutboards mine is solid state so no points or condenser on it. My coils are mounted on each h side of the head with one wire. Attaching to them from under the flywheel. Under the flywheel is a plate with two big and four small something mounted to it on the smaller onehave the magnet metal in the center of them. I'm thinking it's a stator from what I've read on the solid state ignition and the cowling says it also. Just can't find a video on how to troubleshoot it. All I've seen has like ten small. Locks all the way around it. This flywheel has a magnet on it
Hi my boss .Is what this module exists with an evinrude / 25hp / 1975..this is effective at long hardness
Jbeli Mariem, This chips are used mostly for small engines such as chainsaws & lawn equipment. They
will run a 2 cycle outboard in place of points but I do not know if they would perform well or how long they would last. I would stick with what your motor came with. kodi
I have 3 leads coming off my coils. I think one is ground and the other 2 I don't know what to do with them. do I tie those 2 together and put them on the positive side of the Chip? I am using the Nova II chips.
+Don Gesswin, Yes the 2 non-ground tie together for your stop switch, The other goes to ground to the coil body, Please keep in mind I have not tested these chips under real world use / conditions. I did manage to get the motor to run in my test tank on them... kodi
@@kodibassInsideoutboards Thanks I will give that a try tomorrow.
Do you have to run one chip for each cylinder?
+brt 123, yes kodi
What is a nova chip?..typed it in Amazon and there was a bag of potato chips..lol
Haha😎 you actually can use those too lol. Sorry lol cant resist. Actually I am also trying to restore a 1980 worktwin 6hp evinrude. Cant find the ignition coils anyway. Maybe will put in a lawnmover engine if I cant find the needed parts. So what with yours lol, after knowing what the nova chips are.
I just did this on a old Chrysler 30 hp I got great spark but for the life of me I cant get it to pop over. It is like the timing is way off or something. Even a little starting fluid and I still cant get it to fire. It did fire on points prior sort of that is why I replaced it. as I said great looking spark. But just wont fire or run. any Idea?
+Craig Stalmer, what is the compression? & is your flywheel woodruff key & keyslot good? kodi
@@kodibassInsideoutboards I did get it to work by changing around the wires on the ignition components. it runs now. been using it on my pontoon.
@@kodibassInsideoutboards Ok I figured it out. I swap the wires on the solid state units and it works! I have it on my 24ft pontoon been cruising around on the river . But I think it should be faster at full throttle. I checked it at the motor and all the linkages max out and it sounds fine. However after it warms up it likes to idle real low and die. also could these electronic replacements for the points and condensers keep it from running at top performance?
Craig Stalmer hi! Can you share pictures or a video of the set up? I want to try the Nova 2 on my chrysler 20hp.
@@luiyihdez3 oh you do unfortunately the motor is all together and on my boat and I don't really want to pull the fly wheel. but it is not that hard. but I recommend not putting them under the flywheel like I did. The wires kept getting caught on the magnet. I have just installed the same thing on a 8 hp Evinrude and I could make a video on that if you like it basically the same thing.
...oh and the title says 6hp but like your intro states it’s a 4hp.
+George Keats, Yep my bad, I had a 6 hp in the shop at the same time, but its a cutie 4. kodi
it runs real nice got a smooth idle to for trolling
+Baylan Maverick Legacy, Yes she is a cutie, I hope I can get the other one running also. kodi
Hi. Mate of mine does full proper cdi ignition kit for these old motors and it is much better than this nova kit. I have his recent video of converting 4hp evinrude from points to cdi. That video is in Russian but you can turn subtitles on.
If anybody needs a kit like this or has any questions,just cotact me and i will help. If interested in buying cdi kit,the price is arround 80-90 bucks.
What is this kit called
@@reneortiz2033 its just a kit that he makes from scratch. This is the kit zazhiganie.com/products/elektronnoe-zazhiganie-dlja-lodochnogo-motora-johnson-evenrud.
Its in Russian though,but there are pictures and you can understand what it is
Trying to restore a 1980 6hp evinrude. Mind pointing me to the link. Lol I know this is an old vid, but who knows haha, something good might turn up.