Weber-Der Freischütz Overture REHEARSAL-Kleiber (1970)(3/3)

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ธ.ค. 2007
  • Südfunk-Sinfonieorchester
    1970
    Carlos Kleiber
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    From a video 30 years ago, featuring the rehearsal and concert performances of Weber's Der Freischütz overture and Strauss II's Die Fledermaus overture.
    Spoken in German with Italian subtitles, we see a liveliness on par with that in the Strauss.
    Enjoy!
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  • @3332961355
    @3332961355 16 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    the best way to show how important is a conductor and how incredible is this one. thanks for this video

  • @maxreger100
    @maxreger100 12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have subsequently learned that the clarinetist that day was a substitute player, not the normal first clarinetist.
    Still, it just rankles to see so many of these older players, with hardening of the love for music, treat Kleiber so cavalierly.

  • @oakroom48
    @oakroom48 14 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for posting this very interesting, instructive, and enjoyable glimpse inside an orchestral rehearsal!

  • @Quotenwagnerianer
    @Quotenwagnerianer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Nicht spielen nur hören". Toll! Auch von Karajan berichteten die Orchesterspieler, dass eine seiner Anweisungen immer "Hören!" war. Er rief das während der Probe einfach so in die Musik, wissend das die Musiker schon wussten was er meinte.

  • @riccardocerti
    @riccardocerti ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow wiederschön !!!!!!!

  • @Quotenwagnerianer
    @Quotenwagnerianer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Funny how the discussion about the clarinet player starts in this video. For me it was clear from his first solo in the other part of the video that he was not up for this part.

  • @windstorm1000
    @windstorm1000 13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really don't know how Kleiber kept from going over and slapping that disrespectful clarinetist's face!! I wouldn't have able to. What self control and forgiveness. Good looking guy in his youth and cared so much about the music--that is the key.

  • @assindiastignani
    @assindiastignani 13 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    @ipmoic The patronizing eyebrow-raising und head-shaking going on in the orchestra (somehow I get the feeling the woodwinds in this orch. don't like any conductor telling them anything)are all beside the point. Kleiber's right in what he's doing, which is to get these people to listen to and make music with, rather than wage permanent war on one another. They can smirk and grin patronizingly all they want - in the concert they sound much better than in the rehearsal, and it's Kleiber's doing.

    • @heifetz14
      @heifetz14 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree with everything that you say.At the end of the day,this orchestra never sounded as good as they do with Kleiber.That applies to every orchestra that he stood in front of.

  • @MyMusic0201
    @MyMusic0201 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @ipmoic Don't get too upset, it's bad for yout health :-) I know from experience that you can look uninterested, smiling or even smirking but at the same time taking the conductor's advice. It's a rehearsal thing, focused and relaxed at the same time...

  • @salvatorecozzolino5191
    @salvatorecozzolino5191 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Immenso

  • @Revkev67
    @Revkev67 ปีที่แล้ว

    @raychuan, if you have the rest of the video would you be able to share it with the rest of the world. I've lost count of how many times I watched these three clips...

  • @SatchmoSings
    @SatchmoSings 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ipmoic--
    They just don't want to generate the contrasts and intensity as the overture builds to the climax necessary to articulate the opera.
    What conductor said (approximately), "God tells me how this music should sound but YOU get in the way!"

  • @SongwriterOoO
    @SongwriterOoO 12 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I don't know how many german speaking people watch this video, but i think it is kinda funny how he says "For a blind man it has a look" or however you might translate that properly at 2:19 and then they show that guy with sunglasses who kinda looks like he is blind...

  • @SuperAbisal
    @SuperAbisal 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Это гениально

  • @yusukeundisolde
    @yusukeundisolde 13 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    sexy

  • @soroush4946
    @soroush4946 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where can I find this complete?

  • @assindiastignani
    @assindiastignani 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @ipmoic I agree, it's infuriating, but these German orchestras are structured so that after a one-year probationary period, the musicians become tenured for life. They have nothing more to fear and can be as rude and uncooperative as they want, with almost total impunity. In the case of this clarinetist, I really think the arrogance was a defense. He just couldn't play the passages the way Kleiber wanted and was scared.Nothing below "mf" and so often above the pitch - signs of nerves.