And listen up guys; Robs sharpening services are the best you'll ever see, even if you had the same equipment as Rob you'd hard pressed to duplicate his work. You have to know what you're doing, and Rob really does. I've sent all my nicer knives to Rob for sharpening and they've all come back beyond perfect and horrifyingly sharp. But don't worry, they are so sharp that you won't even feel the cut and the wound is so clean that it always heals up perfectly! Thanks again Rob for the great work. I'm just sorry that I ran out of good knives to send!
Beautiful blades! I love the " Rule #9" engraving. It's one of Gibbs rules from the tv show NCIS and goes as follows "never go anywhere without a knife"
Another great morning spent with brother Rob. I don't have a 940 yet, but do have a 770, that I consider the cute baby brother of the 940. Keep em coming Sir and I'll keep watching. God bless
Great vid Rob. I have had my eye on the 940 for the longest time but just never picked one up. When the 940-1 came out, I had to get one. I have had this one for about 2 weeks and I love it so far. My centering is perfect, no issues to date.
Hey guys, my 940 is the bottom one on screen, and yes I put on the deep carry pocket clip, I also agree with rob that the split arrow clip is awesome, my job requires a shirt and tie, and a visible pocket clip isn't really appropriate. What I love about the deep carry clips is that they make PERFECT money clips! I'm not a cash-in-wallet kinda guy. That's why the Emissary and now the 940-1 are perfect knives for "in the pocket carry".
Great video. I bought a Benchmade adamas 275 bout a month ago. It is an awesome knife. Your review of that Benchmade knife sold me on it. Just ordered a kershaw cryo 2 blackwash. It is a beautiful knife and should be a good every day use and carry knife. Any way, have a great day and God Bless!!
Just found your channel and really enjoyed this video. Really appreciate that you are happy to show your faith on the Channel and started following you. Finally just got a brand new 940-1 on eBay for 220. I was also waiting for them to go down. Might have to send it in for the spa and sharping.
Thanks for the great video . After this cup of coffee , I'm off to the Benchmade store to pick mine up . I'm lucky Benchmade factory is only 20 min away . Great videos , I just subscribed .
Finally picked one of these up. I wasn’t really looking for a new knife but the price made me pull the trigger. Got one for cheap on the forums. Let’s just say cheaper then the regular 940. If u have patience you find good deals.
My 940 fell out of my pocket the other day so i called benchmade asking for a deep pocket clip and i was expecting to pay 30-40 dollars and they gave it to me for free! My dad is making fun of me because of how excited i am but come on guys customer service dosent get any better than that
I ordered a deep pocked clip from Blade4Sell that was marketed as a benchmade factory part. It took 3 months to get to me (they said it had to be manufactured) and It makes the knife almost 2mm wider than the factory clip. Plus it's painted and not oxidized or parkerized. So I sent an email to benchmade asking about factory options expecting (and fully willing) to pay and they're sending me THREE different options. Holy customer service batman!
As usual Rob another great review. I been out of the loop on following your vids the last few months. But, I'm catching up. I have a little more time on my hands now. I enjoy your openly honest and humble reviews. Thank you. From...Shawn. God bless brother!
great detailed look! i was really liking the look of this but quality control stuff like those protruding screws and off center blades really bother me and i don't like seeing it in such an expensive knife. i think i will be picking up a sebenza small 21.
I actually bit the bullet on one of these guys. I had to pause the video mid way through to run to the safe and double check my centering. Looking good, but same plunge grind. I too noticed the screws sticking through, while it doesn't cause interference, I do agree they shouldn't protrude. All in all I am loving my first 940, and have a little extra pride in ownership having snagged a first production run. Maybe down the road Benchmade will off screws that fit right. I would love hear you thoughts and see the results of your plunge grind and sharpening of the knife when you are done working on them.
$300 knife and I can’t put a short Screw in there they have to use the screw from their other knives, I got one on order Bob. If it comes off centered what would you charge me to Center It, put on one of your beautiful edges and shorten them screws, please respond thank you
Excellent review and observations. I was really contemplating if I should pick one up for $263.50, but was not quite sure if it's worth the money. This video summed it up very well and helped me in making my final decision, not to. I already have a 940Ti with S30V & all titanium handle, and everything is just perfect on that knife. It'll be very hard to beat my 940Ti in fit & finish, so I'll just stick with mine.
Rob...I really like you man. You're a great guy. You have very thoughtful and informative videos, and you have a great sense of humor. BUT YOU'RE STILL MAKING MY WALLET HURT!! lol
I was told a trick to get the burr off the blade spacers with a ceramic sharpening stone on the spacers for those 940 knives that have that grabbing section of the swing. It helps with the the fast open and close without having to get blade play in the lock position.
Rule #9, of course, NCIS Gibbs rule #9, always carry a knife. Not to be confused with my favorites in order after rule #9 is rule #13, #36, #35, #40 & 42. :)
Btw rob, I've always had my suspicions about the original 940's Ti back spacer. In my experience anodized Ti doesn't hold up that great. It fades and gets dark from oils and fingerprints etc. But the 940 spacer seems to stay really bright much like (dare I say) anodized aluminum?
I think it's Ti, but it's pretty well-protected from damage and abrasion. If you want to see how it really wears, check out my Wranglerstar 940 vid -- that one shows its age :)
EXCELLENT VIDEO. First off, I don't care what anybody says, Rob my friend, you make the best doggone knife videos on the 'tube. Gobs of good useful information vs. "some" of those other guys, who rely on their "whimsical tastes" as "information". And then there's those other videos that might as well as only show a still image of the knife, LOL.>> Blink or adjust your volume or take a sip of your beverage........and the video is over. Ya know, early on in this one, I WAS wondering what "Rule #9" means. My first guess is: Always carry a good quality sharp knife. ??? I can't wait to hear or read the answer. Those are some sweet knives. Thanks for the lessons. Oh.....'careful what ya wish for......."940 Guy", LOL. ( I like "TheApostleP" better )
How did the carbon feel vs the metal handle? Did it feel cheap? lite? I have a griptilian that I really like, but to me the handle feels a bit cheap/plasticy.. I also have a 707 Sequel with metal and carbon inserts, the metal feels great. What do you think on the 940 metal vs 940-1 carbon? And did you ever measure the handle thickness? The metal did look thinner.
Jonathan Kelly Unless you knew CF was an expensive material, it would feel cheaper because it's so light. The handle is about 3/32 thinner on the 940-1, which is why the liner screws protrude into the cavity. I prefer the original.
The scales of the 940 are thicker than the 940-1, hence the screw protrusion issue. Still, Benchmade could have used shorter screws for the 940-1. Anyway, I have a few Benchmade's I plan on sending you for the "Spa" treatment.
Thank for the kind words, my friend. I think the only issue I pointed out that really has a chance to be corrected is the length of the liner screws. The centering / grind issues are pretty standard 940 conditions, and just take a bit of tweaking on most knives. But those screws sticking into the cavity are pretty unsightly.
Nope. This one looks to be a pretty bad hardware buy by somebody. The scales are ever so slightly thicker than the aluminum, which probably requires a longer screw. But the next "off the shelf" size was obviously too long :(
Sure are pretty knives. When these were first announced at SHOT I thought to myself, "Well, looks like I am gonna be selling my regular 940 and getting one of these." But now that they are out... IDK. My regular 940 was not a perfect knife when I got it... took a trip to TheApostleP's spa treatment service to get it "right" and now that it is I don't see getting rid of it just to start the process all over again. Maybe I'll do like Rob says and pick one up used after a while. Still... sure are pretty knives. :)
You have to be a NCIS TV series junky to know the meaning of what "Rule # 9" is all about (which I so happen to be lol) It is a very good rule which I follow quite religiously. "Never Go Anywhere With Out A KNIFE"
Hello ApostleP, great video! Question for you: is there something that I should do (oiling?) to make the unlocking the Axis easier with just the thumb, instead of using the thumb and index? Thanks!
jumpSpinningHeelKick Oil really won't help much here. It's really a break-in issue. After you use it for awhile and the flanges of the Axis bar burnish the liners a bit and mate together, you'll see it smooth out nicely.
TheApostleP one last question for you sir. These are parkerized clips on the 940-1? What's the difference between parkerized and black oxide or are they the same thing? Thanks in advance!
They're the same thing. "Parkerization" is a trade name for a black oxide process, and is sometimes spoken of kind of like "Kleenex" is used to refer to facial tissue.
thanks your review and observations as of late using 3in blades North Fork and Sage 3 but got a grizzly Creek and find that the 3.5in blade is comfortable EDC so thought the lighter thinner 940 and thinking that 90sv may just be over the top unless you just have one knife as dont mind honning my knives still studing thanks again the class
i have a question and feel that i can get some good advice here. i am getting a benchmade 940, and i am debating on whether to get the standard one or the s90v carbon fiber version. id like to get that version, just because its awesome, but here is where i need advice to make my decision: i have honestly gotten to the point where i just dont bother with the fancy sharpening systems to get hair-whittling edges anymore, nowadays i just use my little lansky turnbox sharpener and im totally satisfied with the reasonable edge it keeps with regular touch ups. i know that i can sharpen s30v with it as it always kept a decent edge on my paramility 2(RIP), but would it be unreasonable to be trying to keep the s90v version sharp with the lansky turnbox? the cost difference isnt an issue, and the coolness, while tempting, isnt really importamnt enough to me to sway my decision. it all comes down to the ease of sharpening for me. any and all advice would be so greatly appreciated. thanks in advance guys! :)
Just buy a strop and some green compound. Barely takes a minute or two to touch up a blade, and barring any significant edge damage that's all that will be necessary. I saved myself some money and made a strop out of a belt I found cheap, but even buying everything shouldn't cost more than $30-$40. As for the knife, I'd say if you abuse your knives at all the S90V might be an issue, since it's even more chippy than S30V, which is slightly on the chippier side. So if you do get a strop, might be best to stick with something less prone to edge damage. That being said, have you checked out the Knifeworks exclusive 940? A bit flashy, but the blade steel (20CV) is like a slightly harder but easier to maintain S30V.
Tip: Keep your eye on Amazon knife sales, sometimes they offer used knives... I purchased my 940-1 "used-like-new" for $170.00 and the knife was perfect, indistinguishable from brand new -- I don't think it was ever used
When did they change the blade to S90V and how does it compare to 154CM? The 2 940's I have are 154CM. Any why did they drop the black scales? My first 940 was a black scaled one and I kinda prefer the black. Been wanting to pick up another one up and I think I want the CF model. Just can't decide if I want a combo blade or the plain edge model.
Black aluminum 940's were pretty early, and very few, although the black handles are still standard on the 943 clip point model. 154CM was replaced by S30V in the 940 series around 2007, and the 940-1 is the only model which features S90V.
Interesting. My 1st (the black one) was purchased around 04-05 and the green was around 08-09 (but it still has 154CM, interesting). I got the green handled one as I couldn't find any black ones. I guess one could buy the 943 and a 940 blade and swap them around. Considering the discount I get from BM, that might not be a bad idea. They have to be the best pocket knife I have ever owned and I can easily keep them stupid sharp.
Hey apostle I'm a big fan I also watch wranglestar and need some good advice I finally have the money to afford a good knife and need an honest opinion I'm looking into some benchmade wranglestar has stated his 940 just keeps going and he puts it through abuse and it's never come loose I saw on a comment here that said sv90 chips easily should I go with a fixed blade benchmade or the 940 I'm looking for a 940 and I don't necessarily care about extreme sharpness over durability would the 940 be a good knife to get and should I go with sv30 or sv90 for durability I don't want a blade to chip
Pertaining to "Rule #9".......I was close. ( Already left a comment with my guess, before I read anyone else's comments.) Thanks "....Buick".....for the answer.
I recently picked up an older generation of the 940 with 230V at a gun show for $50.00 (insane deal), however, there is some blade play in it that I can't get rid of unless I tighten it to the point of not being able to close it with two hands. Would benchmades life sharp (or any other services) fix that you think? Also awesome video, can't wait to spend more money I don't have on one of these beauties.
If you haven't found out yet, but according to benchmade you have to be the original owner (and register your knife) to use their lifesharp program. Sorry but either way its a sweet deal. Try to add or remove a washer or two to see if that helps.
I can, and I do sharpen mine, but I haven't really considered doing that for customers, unless you're local to my area. I think the shipping might be cost-prohibitive.
TheApostleP understandable, i think im down south from you a bit but ive been doing axe restorations and a few of the swedish heads are crazy sharp worthy. I would just send the heads without handles.
I'd be happy to take a swing at it (pun intended). Figure $20 plus return shipping. Just include the same amount you used to get it to me in the box with the axe head. My shipping / contact info is in the description of my sharpening service video. Thanks for asking!
are those the 3.4 inch blade knives? I'm on their website and the only name I can actually find says 940 family? I just ordered one with a 3.4 inch blade but not exactly sure what model it is.
+Marshall Jones-Paragon Fury The 940 is the green aluminum handles with a reverse tanto style blade. The 940-1 is the carbon fiber handles with the reverse tanto style blade. The 943 is the black aluminum handles with a drop point style blade. Hope that helps.
for 300$ i think it should be common to get a centered blade and lol... having the screws flush. Making the right lenght for screws should be a primary spec, even the chineese got it right
why is the plunge grind so important to you in evaluating a knife? just curious because in my years of knife use i never use the back part of the blade any way so im just curious to know why its important.
+zleggitt1989 Search "plunge grinds" on my channel page. I have a video up that illustrates the problem this defect causes over the first inch or so of cutting edge when resharpening. It's really not nit-picking.
+TheApostleP i watched the video and you really didnt explain why it was important. the only thing i got out of it was for resharpening... am i missing something? im not trying at all to troll or undermine your intelligence in any way shape or form, im just trying to learn is all. ive personally never found a plunge grind to be obnoxious to work around so im just confused is to why its a big deal. again im not trying to offend you or troll you id just like a little more information is all on your views. keep up the good work i love your channel
zleggitt1989 Well, I suppose if you never planned to sharpen your knife, or if a sharp edge isn't important to you, especially in the rear section, then it really doesn't matter at all. But most of us like a knife that can be resharpened, especially since most factory edges pretty much suck. So, a blade designed and ground in such a manner that resharpening can be done properly is more desirable than one that cannot. Make sense?
+TheApostleP im not the absolute best knife sharpener by any means but my edges are good enough to shave with. i guess ive just never had a problem with plunge grinds thats why i was asking why it was important or if there was another reason why you were critical of them. you didnt have to be condescending. im sorry i wasted your time
I really didn't mean to condescend. But what a poorly executed plunge does to a cutting edge is pretty obvious when the time comes to resharpen, especially in the first 1/2-1" of edge. I'll bet if you go back and look at some of the knives you've sharpened, and focus on this area of the blade, you'll see that they aren't a sharp and consistent in that area as the rest of the edge. Let me know what you find.
I'm lucky that I was able to get a nice one from KSF (decent centering, even grinds, etc). I got the centering down after taking it apart, flipping one of the washers, and polishing the washers with black and then white BRK compound; I also took the blade tang over the compound but I am not sure this was necessary. It kind of sucks that you have to jump through these hoops to get it feeling really nice. It's a great EDC knife: small, light, and efficient. Plus, it doesn't make up my phone screen like titanium scales have a tendency to do.
Benchmade will send a replacement clip at buyer's request. I think you can also order the knife with a different clip than the standard for the model. If I were ordering one, I would probably opt for the deep carry (Adamas -the mounting holes match) clip like Ninos (sp?) did.
The whole plunge grind and sharpening notch placement is something so many knives get wrong...obviously including companies you think would know better. I sharpen mostly freehand on water stones and it really bothers me how often that problem needs to be fixed.
TheApostleP thank you so much is it as wranglestar says that they just keep going I saw you had a wranglestar gauntlet challenge with the 940 haven't watched the vid yet it's a big investment in my opinion on a knife and I want something that will just keep lasting and not get loose do you think it's a good choice for an edc overall
yeah I prepaid $5 on this knife but I backed out of it, I know that 940 is loved by the community but I just never been into the over all shape of the knife ( I'm probably the minority on that thought ) I love love the carbon fiber handle though, cf and s90v was the initial likes for me. I don't mind the screws sticking out that much... can't you just grind it or something? lol
I was thinking it would be nice to have one With the half serrated blade cause I'm thinking s90v serrations would stay sharp for a very very very very very long time.
To me a 100 dollar increase is a little to much just for carbon fiber and blue stand offs.. and to be honest I like the look of the back spacer on your knife much better, on such a long slim knife. Nice comparison though.
Thanks for being one of the first to throw up a great video on this new edition of the 940. Would you consider posting a short follow-up on your experience with sharpening the S90V? I understand from others experiences that it can be a bit of a chore to sharpen/re-profile. Thanks!
Yes, I will, Joshua. I would say the reports you've heard are pretty accurate. I didn't have much trouble removing material with the lower grits, but S90V definitely doesn't like to take a good polish, especially on the secondary bevel (the one you see). It did come to a super keen cutting edge when I applied the micro bevel, but it doesn't like to take the most cosmetically appealing polished edge. As a sharpener / user, I much prefer S30/35, CTS XHP, D2 and ZDP 189. I'd put S90V in the same category as Elmax, with unnecessarily low grindability/sharpenability without edge retention significantly better than the steels I just mentioned. Even if cost were equal, I'd opt for any of those 4 over S90V or Elmax. Just to put it in perspective, 15 years ago ceramic knife blades were going to make steel obsolete. Then people dropped them and they broke in half. Then they chipped and got dull and nobody could sharpen them... and ceramic blades became a laughing stock in serious knife discussions. Now we're chasing the same ridiculous standard of edge retention in modern steel recipes, and it's beginning to get a bit ridiclous... again.
Point taken. However, to put it simply, which is about as good as it gets for me, if S35 is awesome times 5, and just plain awesome will do given relative ease of sharpening, then why do I need awesome times 10 if it makes sharpening a nightmare?
You summed it up at the end with "certainly a great modern day interpretation of a legend". Really enjoyed this one and the close look at the 940-1 CF I am biased, but I still favor the original for many reasons. The one plus I'll give the 940-1 is that Benchmade beautifully stonewashed that blade. Keep it green baby : )
Check out my video. If you go to my channel page, search "TheApostleP Sharpening Service." If should be there. All aspects of my service, along with shipping / contact info are there. Thanks for the inquiry!
Tyler Moser I don't think so I have the original 940 and it just says benchmade too. I think it just has to do with painted or pakarized pocket clips maybe.
TheApostleP I have a griptillon that I have taken a part and cleaned and lubed thinking about send it for repair, but may see about sending it to you, but I can't figure out how to look up your info
MetroSkyscraper Never!!' Partially serrated folders are made to be sold at chain stores to people who don't know any better. "Hey, that looks cool! Benchmade makes good knives, right? I should probably get that."
MetroSkyscraper Fully serrated blades have their place, certainly, but a short run of serrations are always too short, and plain edge from belly to tip is too short and in the wrong place. The combo edge is the spork of the knife world -- a spoon that leaks and a fork with tines that are too short to do anything with. Trust me.
I really want one. But unfortunately the Manix 2 with s110v steel came out at blade hq where I had both on pre order they both came out the same week. And my card got charged for the Manix first. So no I have a choice to pony up the cash for the 940 1. Or not. I mean I already have the forum rift with the carbin fiber scales. 940 s big brother and m4 steel. Witch is very impressive and only 300 made. And I do have the carbin fiber Manix with s90v steel. I think only 400 of those made also. But I still really want the 940 1. I guess I'm just a sick sick man. What the heck I get paid in two weeks anyways. But in two weeks will there be a 940 1 left to but. Pally not.
I found a place that is selling new 940-1 First Production Run, I picked up 463/750, and several other First Production Runs New, they also have several Prototypes that I've never seen in a catalog before, and a couple Red Box (I know they are China Made) but could they be worth anything, they are also selling Benchmade knife of the year set of 4 (1998-2001) with Soft Case and has 4 complete sets.
rule #9 always carry a knife (gibb's ruels from the ncis database)! Those protruding screws are grotesque. Do you know where i can find screws for the scales, if so do have you seen any that are anodized? Blue anodized titanium screws would look awesome with the spacers.
+TheApostleP so are you going to get the knifeworks exclusive 940-1501? Black and blue layered g10 with blue backspacers and CPM-20CV blade steel. Just got one and it's pretty nice
I must say I'm shocked that Benchmade would ship $260 knives with screws protruding into the cavity. My head is reeling that their QC and QA are not better than that. Sorry, but that just seems like such a royal screw-up for such an experienced company.
Such a potentially perfect knife. For the price horrible QC. For this type of money, I expect a flawless product or at least flaws that are difficult to spot. Spyderco and many other imports are leaving Benchmade behind. I'd love to have this knife but not at that price and those flaws thrown in for free.
Mike Neil you're right, i like the idea of having lifesharp at all times. I realize i paid for their sharpening service when i originally purchased the knife & it helps justify the cost of the knife.
B4 freedomfighter i have the 940-1 and the Adamas. The Adamas is impractical, youre right about that. It was an impulse buy i but dont regret because it is a good knife. Next one in line from benchmade i want is the linited edition mini crooked river. In my experience customer support can be as important as the product itself. Good customer service is the american way ;)
I just can’t finish watching this video. The sniffing, throat clearing, and swallowing every five seconds was just too much. It’s a shame, because the content was so good.
And listen up guys; Robs sharpening services are the best you'll ever see, even if you had the same equipment as Rob you'd hard pressed to duplicate his work. You have to know what you're doing, and Rob really does. I've sent all my nicer knives to Rob for sharpening and they've all come back beyond perfect and horrifyingly sharp. But don't worry, they are so sharp that you won't even feel the cut and the wound is so clean that it always heals up perfectly! Thanks again Rob for the great work. I'm just sorry that I ran out of good knives to send!
Thanks for the props, brother! And don't worry... you'll get 'em dull sooner or later :)
Beautiful blades! I love the " Rule #9" engraving. It's one of Gibbs rules from the tv show NCIS and goes as follows "never go anywhere without a knife"
Gibbs on NCIS rule # 9. "Never leave home without a knife." And I don't. 99.9% of the time one of them is my Osborne 940. %^)
Thank you for the detailed look at the 940-1. You summed up the same concerns I had about it. Sticking to the original for now.
Another great morning spent with brother Rob. I don't have a 940 yet, but do have a 770, that I consider the cute baby brother of the 940. Keep em coming Sir and I'll keep watching. God bless
Great vid Rob. I have had my eye on the 940 for the longest time but just never picked one up. When the 940-1 came out, I had to get one. I have had this one for about 2 weeks and I love it so far. My centering is perfect, no issues to date.
Hey guys, my 940 is the bottom one on screen, and yes I put on the deep carry pocket clip, I also agree with rob that the split arrow clip is awesome, my job requires a shirt and tie, and a visible pocket clip isn't really appropriate. What I love about the deep carry clips is that they make PERFECT money clips! I'm not a cash-in-wallet kinda guy. That's why the Emissary and now the 940-1 are perfect knives for "in the pocket carry".
Great video. I bought a Benchmade adamas 275 bout a month ago. It is an awesome knife. Your review of that Benchmade knife sold me on it. Just ordered a kershaw cryo 2 blackwash. It is a beautiful knife and should be a good every day use and carry knife. Any way, have a great day and God Bless!!
Just found your channel and really enjoyed this video. Really appreciate that you are happy to show your faith on the Channel and started following you. Finally just got a brand new 940-1 on eBay for 220. I was also waiting for them to go down. Might have to send it in for the spa and sharping.
Thanks for the great video . After this cup of coffee , I'm off to the Benchmade store to pick mine up . I'm lucky Benchmade factory is only 20 min away . Great videos , I just subscribed .
You, sir, are a fortunate man :)
Finally picked one of these up. I wasn’t really looking for a new knife but the price made me pull the trigger. Got one for cheap on the forums. Let’s just say cheaper then the regular 940. If u have patience you find good deals.
I'm looking for one currently!
My 940 fell out of my pocket the other day so i called benchmade asking for a deep pocket clip and i was expecting to pay 30-40 dollars and they gave it to me for free! My dad is making fun of me because of how excited i am but come on guys customer service dosent get any better than that
I ordered a deep pocked clip from Blade4Sell that was marketed as a benchmade factory part. It took 3 months to get to me (they said it had to be manufactured) and It makes the knife almost 2mm wider than the factory clip. Plus it's painted and not oxidized or parkerized. So I sent an email to benchmade asking about factory options expecting (and fully willing) to pay and they're sending me THREE different options. Holy customer service batman!
Kershaw/ZT will do the same. Excellent warranties and customer service just like Benchmade.
@@JesseBlough there knives have quality control issues but the clips sure as hell dont
I love those finger calipers to test the thickness of the grind
As usual Rob another great review. I been out of the loop on following your vids the last few months. But, I'm catching up. I have a little more time on my hands now. I enjoy your openly honest and humble reviews. Thank you. From...Shawn. God bless brother!
Good to hear from you! May God bless you as well, brother!
great detailed look! i was really liking the look of this but quality control stuff like those protruding screws and off center blades really bother me and i don't like seeing it in such an expensive knife. i think i will be picking up a sebenza small 21.
I have two greenies, one is 154 and one is s30v. They are just very nice knives, very smooth, light, and sharp.
I went with the 940-2 G10, Green Aluminum Standoffs, I think for thr money its the best of the 940 line
I actually bit the bullet on one of these guys. I had to pause the video mid way through to run to the safe and double check my centering. Looking good, but same plunge grind.
I too noticed the screws sticking through, while it doesn't cause interference, I do agree they shouldn't protrude.
All in all I am loving my first 940, and have a little extra pride in ownership having snagged a first production run. Maybe down the road Benchmade will off screws that fit right.
I would love hear you thoughts and see the results of your plunge grind and sharpening of the knife when you are done working on them.
rule #9 i believe refers to Gibbs rules from NCIS #9 no=ever go anywhere without a knife
$300 knife and I can’t put a short Screw in there they have to use the screw from their other knives, I got one on order Bob. If it comes off centered what would you charge me to Center It, put on one of your beautiful edges and shorten them screws, please respond thank you
How have the carbon fiber handles held up over the years?
Glad i bought one of these, its my everyday carry at the moment
Excellent review and observations. I was really contemplating if I should pick one up for $263.50, but was not quite sure if it's worth the money. This video summed it up very well and helped me in making my final decision, not to. I already have a 940Ti with S30V & all titanium handle, and everything is just perfect on that knife. It'll be very hard to beat my 940Ti in fit & finish, so I'll just stick with mine.
Great comparison, Rob. I won't be rushing out to buy one quite yet, but it sure is a good looking knife with the CF scales!
It is indeed!
Rob...I really like you man. You're a great guy. You have very thoughtful and informative videos, and you have a great sense of humor. BUT YOU'RE STILL MAKING MY WALLET HURT!! lol
Deal with it, buddy :)
I was told a trick to get the burr off the blade spacers with a ceramic sharpening stone on the spacers for those 940 knives that have that grabbing section of the swing. It helps with the the fast open and close without having to get blade play in the lock position.
Rule #9, of course, NCIS Gibbs rule #9, always carry a knife. Not to be confused with my favorites in order after rule #9 is rule #13, #36, #35, #40 & 42. :)
Grabbed one barely touched off the forums for 200. Hype for that.
Btw rob, I've always had my suspicions about the original 940's Ti back spacer. In my experience anodized Ti doesn't hold up that great. It fades and gets dark from oils and fingerprints etc. But the 940 spacer seems to stay really bright much like (dare I say) anodized aluminum?
I think it's Ti, but it's pretty well-protected from damage and abrasion. If you want to see how it really wears, check out my Wranglerstar 940 vid -- that one shows its age :)
EXCELLENT VIDEO. First off, I don't care what anybody says, Rob my friend, you make the best doggone knife videos on the 'tube. Gobs of good useful information vs. "some" of those other guys, who rely on their "whimsical tastes" as "information". And then there's those other videos that might as well as only show a still image of the knife, LOL.>> Blink or adjust your volume or take a sip of your beverage........and the video is over. Ya know, early on in this one, I WAS wondering what "Rule #9" means. My first guess is: Always carry a good quality sharp knife. ??? I can't wait to hear or read the answer. Those are some sweet knives. Thanks for the lessons. Oh.....'careful what ya wish for......."940 Guy", LOL. ( I like "TheApostleP" better )
How did the carbon feel vs the metal handle? Did it feel cheap? lite? I have a griptilian that I really like, but to me the handle feels a bit cheap/plasticy.. I also have a 707 Sequel with metal and carbon inserts, the metal feels great. What do you think on the 940 metal vs 940-1 carbon? And did you ever measure the handle thickness? The metal did look thinner.
Jonathan Kelly Unless you knew CF was an expensive material, it would feel cheaper because it's so light. The handle is about 3/32 thinner on the 940-1, which is why the liner screws protrude into the cavity. I prefer the original.
The scales of the 940 are thicker than the 940-1, hence the screw protrusion issue. Still, Benchmade could have used shorter screws for the 940-1. Anyway, I have a few Benchmade's I plan on sending you for the "Spa" treatment.
A true 940 connoisseur's first look at the -1 CF. Hope they iron out some of the problems you point out.
Thank for the kind words, my friend. I think the only issue I pointed out that really has a chance to be corrected is the length of the liner screws. The centering / grind issues are pretty standard 940 conditions, and just take a bit of tweaking on most knives. But those screws sticking into the cavity are pretty unsightly.
You're welcome, I enjoyed watching! I imagine the liner screws would be an easy fix? Have you noticed this problem on other open pillar Benchmades?
Nope. This one looks to be a pretty bad hardware buy by somebody. The scales are ever so slightly thicker than the aluminum, which probably requires a longer screw. But the next "off the shelf" size was obviously too long :(
Sure are pretty knives.
When these were first announced at SHOT I thought to myself, "Well, looks like I am gonna be selling my regular 940 and getting one of these." But now that they are out... IDK. My regular 940 was not a perfect knife when I got it... took a trip to TheApostleP's spa treatment service to get it "right" and now that it is I don't see getting rid of it just to start the process all over again. Maybe I'll do like Rob says and pick one up used after a while.
Still... sure are pretty knives. :)
You have to be a NCIS TV series junky to know the meaning of what "Rule # 9" is all about (which I so happen to be lol) It is a very good rule which I follow quite religiously. "Never Go Anywhere With Out A KNIFE"
I'm glad I am not the only one who picked up on rule #9
Hello ApostleP, great video! Question for you: is there something that I should do (oiling?) to make the unlocking the Axis easier with just the thumb, instead of using the thumb and index? Thanks!
jumpSpinningHeelKick Oil really won't help much here. It's really a break-in issue. After you use it for awhile and the flanges of the Axis bar burnish the liners a bit and mate together, you'll see it smooth out nicely.
TheApostleP thanks for the quick response. You're the man!
TheApostleP one last question for you sir. These are parkerized clips on the 940-1? What's the difference between parkerized and black oxide or are they the same thing? Thanks in advance!
They're the same thing. "Parkerization" is a trade name for a black oxide process, and is sometimes spoken of kind of like "Kleenex" is used to refer to facial tissue.
TheApostleP thank you sir!
thanks your review and observations as of late using 3in blades North Fork and Sage 3 but got a grizzly Creek and find that the 3.5in blade is comfortable EDC so thought the lighter thinner 940 and thinking that 90sv may just be over the top unless you just have one knife as dont mind honning my knives still studing thanks again the class
i have a question and feel that i can get some good advice here. i am getting a benchmade 940, and i am debating on whether to get the standard one or the s90v carbon fiber version. id like to get that version, just because its awesome, but here is where i need advice to make my decision: i have honestly gotten to the point where i just dont bother with the fancy sharpening systems to get hair-whittling edges anymore, nowadays i just use my little lansky turnbox sharpener and im totally satisfied with the reasonable edge it keeps with regular touch ups. i know that i can sharpen s30v with it as it always kept a decent edge on my paramility 2(RIP), but would it be unreasonable to be trying to keep the s90v version sharp with the lansky turnbox? the cost difference isnt an issue, and the coolness, while tempting, isnt really importamnt enough to me to sway my decision. it all comes down to the ease of sharpening for me. any and all advice would be so greatly appreciated. thanks in advance guys! :)
Just buy a strop and some green compound. Barely takes a minute or two to touch up a blade, and barring any significant edge damage that's all that will be necessary. I saved myself some money and made a strop out of a belt I found cheap, but even buying everything shouldn't cost more than $30-$40.
As for the knife, I'd say if you abuse your knives at all the S90V might be an issue, since it's even more chippy than S30V, which is slightly on the chippier side. So if you do get a strop, might be best to stick with something less prone to edge damage. That being said, have you checked out the Knifeworks exclusive 940? A bit flashy, but the blade steel (20CV) is like a slightly harder but easier to maintain S30V.
Tip: Keep your eye on Amazon knife sales, sometimes they offer used knives... I purchased my 940-1 "used-like-new" for $170.00 and the knife was perfect, indistinguishable from brand new -- I don't think it was ever used
When did they change the blade to S90V and how does it compare to 154CM? The 2 940's I have are 154CM. Any why did they drop the black scales? My first 940 was a black scaled one and I kinda prefer the black. Been wanting to pick up another one up and I think I want the CF model. Just can't decide if I want a combo blade or the plain edge model.
Black aluminum 940's were pretty early, and very few, although the black handles are still standard on the 943 clip point model. 154CM was replaced by S30V in the 940 series around 2007, and the 940-1 is the only model which features S90V.
Interesting. My 1st (the black one) was purchased around 04-05 and the green was around 08-09 (but it still has 154CM, interesting). I got the green handled one as I couldn't find any black ones. I guess one could buy the 943 and a 940 blade and swap them around. Considering the discount I get from BM, that might not be a bad idea. They have to be the best pocket knife I have ever owned and I can easily keep them stupid sharp.
Hey apostle I'm a big fan I also watch wranglestar and need some good advice I finally have the money to afford a good knife and need an honest opinion I'm looking into some benchmade wranglestar has stated his 940 just keeps going and he puts it through abuse and it's never come loose I saw on a comment here that said sv90 chips easily should I go with a fixed blade benchmade or the 940 I'm looking for a 940 and I don't necessarily care about extreme sharpness over durability would the 940 be a good knife to get and should I go with sv30 or sv90 for durability I don't want a blade to chip
Joshua Wiseman I'd go with the original 940.
I bought my first 940 for $172 with a discount. I could have gotten the 940-1 carbon for $252 with discount but didn’t. I wanted to get the classic😊
Pertaining to "Rule #9".......I was close. ( Already left a comment with my guess, before I read anyone else's comments.) Thanks "....Buick".....for the answer.
I recently picked up an older generation of the 940 with 230V at a gun show for $50.00 (insane deal), however, there is some blade play in it that I can't get rid of unless I tighten it to the point of not being able to close it with two hands. Would benchmades life sharp (or any other services) fix that you think? Also awesome video, can't wait to spend more money I don't have on one of these beauties.
Michael SuperNewg Newgen NumberOne I would definitely have them take a crack at it. It might not be perfect, bur I'm sure they can improve it a lot.
If you haven't found out yet, but according to benchmade you have to be the original owner (and register your knife) to use their lifesharp program. Sorry but either way its a sweet deal. Try to add or remove a washer or two to see if that helps.
Hey apostle im sure the question has been asked before but do you sharpen axes & hatchets?
I can, and I do sharpen mine, but I haven't really considered doing that for customers, unless you're local to my area. I think the shipping might be cost-prohibitive.
TheApostleP understandable, i think im down south from you a bit but ive been doing axe restorations and a few of the swedish heads are crazy sharp worthy. I would just send the heads without handles.
I'd be happy to take a swing at it (pun intended). Figure $20 plus return shipping. Just include the same amount you used to get it to me in the box with the axe head. My shipping / contact info is in the description of my sharpening service video. Thanks for asking!
long fan of the axis lock. started with a grip then a presidio. and have been carrying a mini presidio ultra for two years.
are those the 3.4 inch blade knives? I'm on their website and the only name I can actually find says 940 family? I just ordered one with a 3.4 inch blade but not exactly sure what model it is.
Wait so those on your video are the 940 and the 943 are those same knives but with the different blade style right?
+Marshall Jones-Paragon Fury The 940 is the green aluminum handles with a reverse tanto style blade. The 940-1 is the carbon fiber handles with the reverse tanto style blade. The 943 is the black aluminum handles with a drop point style blade. Hope that helps.
for 300$ i think it should be common to get a centered blade and lol... having the screws flush. Making the right lenght for screws should be a primary spec, even the chineese got it right
spezz01 you can't even spell Chinese right, jackass. Even the Chinese can spell better than you.
Hey Apostle P what do I do if my Benchmade 940 gets dull how can I sharpen it
Ok, ya got me, ordered one on Sooner State Knives. For $225, a bargain if you ask me.
why is the plunge grind so important to you in evaluating a knife? just curious because in my years of knife use i never use the back part of the blade any way so im just curious to know why its important.
+zleggitt1989 Search "plunge grinds" on my channel page. I have a video up that illustrates the problem this defect causes over the first inch or so of cutting edge when resharpening. It's really not nit-picking.
+TheApostleP i watched the video and you really didnt explain why it was important. the only thing i got out of it was for resharpening... am i missing something? im not trying at all to troll or undermine your intelligence in any way shape or form, im just trying to learn is all. ive personally never found a plunge grind to be obnoxious to work around so im just confused is to why its a big deal. again im not trying to offend you or troll you id just like a little more information is all on your views. keep up the good work i love your channel
zleggitt1989 Well, I suppose if you never planned to sharpen your knife, or if a sharp edge isn't important to you, especially in the rear section, then it really doesn't matter at all. But most of us like a knife that can be resharpened, especially since most factory edges pretty much suck. So, a blade designed and ground in such a manner that resharpening can be done properly is more desirable than one that cannot. Make sense?
+TheApostleP im not the absolute best knife sharpener by any means but my edges are good enough to shave with. i guess ive just never had a problem with plunge grinds thats why i was asking why it was important or if there was another reason why you were critical of them. you didnt have to be condescending. im sorry i wasted your time
I really didn't mean to condescend. But what a poorly executed plunge does to a cutting edge is pretty obvious when the time comes to resharpen, especially in the first 1/2-1" of edge. I'll bet if you go back and look at some of the knives you've sharpened, and focus on this area of the blade, you'll see that they aren't a sharp and consistent in that area as the rest of the edge. Let me know what you find.
Do you prefer the feel of aluminum or carbon?
Aluminum I think.
Great review Rob,
Thankd, Dean O!
I'm lucky that I was able to get a nice one from KSF (decent centering, even grinds, etc). I got the centering down after taking it apart, flipping one of the washers, and polishing the washers with black and then white BRK compound; I also took the blade tang over the compound but I am not sure this was necessary. It kind of sucks that you have to jump through these hoops to get it feeling really nice. It's a great EDC knife: small, light, and efficient. Plus, it doesn't make up my phone screen like titanium scales have a tendency to do.
Nice knife, did i miss you saying something about about that deep carry pocket clip? I never seen one like that one on a Benchmade before.
Good eye, biguy... That's the same clip that comes stock on the Adamas and a couple other more recent Benchmades. It was an owner swap.
Benchmade will send a replacement clip at buyer's request. I think you can also order the knife with a different clip than the standard for the model. If I were ordering one, I would probably opt for the deep carry (Adamas -the mounting holes match) clip like Ninos (sp?) did.
what's next knife you are going to purchase?
You got the sniffles?
The whole plunge grind and sharpening notch placement is something so many knives get wrong...obviously including companies you think would know better. I sharpen mostly freehand on water stones and it really bothers me how often that problem needs to be fixed.
@s d Says the guy replying to a 2 year old comment...
I LOVE The ApostleP !!
Would you go wth the standard 940 Osborne over these new ones apostle for reliability and strength and overall lasting
Joshua Wiseman The original is still the only one I own 😉
TheApostleP thank you so much is it as wranglestar says that they just keep going I saw you had a wranglestar gauntlet challenge with the 940 haven't watched the vid yet it's a big investment in my opinion on a knife and I want something that will just keep lasting and not get loose do you think it's a good choice for an edc overall
Joshua Wiseman maybe the best there is.
A very informative video, like all of his are.
yeah I prepaid $5 on this knife but I backed out of it, I know that 940 is loved by the community but I just never been into the over all shape of the knife ( I'm probably the minority on that thought ) I love love the carbon fiber handle though, cf and s90v was the initial likes for me. I don't mind the screws sticking out that much... can't you just grind it or something? lol
might be a silly question, but is the 940-1 a spring assisted opening? thanks
All are manual
Personally I use my knives and welcome scratches on all my tools and leather goods the more beat up the more appreciated…walk of life.
What flashlight do you have in this video?
I was thinking it would be nice to have one With the half serrated blade cause I'm thinking s90v serrations would stay sharp for a very very very very very long time.
What do you charge for knife sharpening, I have 5-6 knives that need it bad
Check out my video "TheApostleP Sharpening Service..." All my pricing, contact and shipping info are in the description. Thanks for the inquiry!
By the way , how do I get a hold if you for your sharpening services ?
All the info is in the description of my sharpening service video. Let me know if you have trouble finding it.
My 940 has a small gap between the liners and the washers, it's annoying
where can i get the deep pocket carry clip on the bottom knife?
Just call Benchmade. They'll ship you one for free :)
Damn those are beautiful
To me a 100 dollar increase is a little to much just for carbon fiber and blue stand offs.. and to be honest I like the look of the back spacer on your knife much better, on such a long slim knife. Nice comparison though.
The knife on the bottom (first run) has a different pocket clip than the other two.
That was changed by the owner. It's a factory Benchmade clip, the same one that comes on the Adamas.
Thanks for being one of the first to throw up a great video on this new edition of the 940. Would you consider posting a short follow-up on your experience with sharpening the S90V? I understand from others experiences that it can be a bit of a chore to sharpen/re-profile. Thanks!
Yes, I will, Joshua. I would say the reports you've heard are pretty accurate. I didn't have much trouble removing material with the lower grits, but S90V definitely doesn't like to take a good polish, especially on the secondary bevel (the one you see). It did come to a super keen cutting edge when I applied the micro bevel, but it doesn't like to take the most cosmetically appealing polished edge. As a sharpener / user, I much prefer S30/35, CTS XHP, D2 and ZDP 189. I'd put S90V in the same category as Elmax, with unnecessarily low grindability/sharpenability without edge retention significantly better than the steels I just mentioned. Even if cost were equal, I'd opt for any of those 4 over S90V or Elmax. Just to put it in perspective, 15 years ago ceramic knife blades were going to make steel obsolete. Then people dropped them and they broke in half. Then they chipped and got dull and nobody could sharpen them... and ceramic blades became a laughing stock in serious knife discussions. Now we're chasing the same ridiculous standard of edge retention in modern steel recipes, and it's beginning to get a bit ridiclous... again.
Point taken. However, to put it simply, which is about as good as it gets for me, if S35 is awesome times 5, and just plain awesome will do given relative ease of sharpening, then why do I need awesome times 10 if it makes sharpening a nightmare?
You summed it up at the end with "certainly a great modern day interpretation of a legend".
Really enjoyed this one and the close look at the 940-1 CF
I am biased, but I still favor the original for many reasons. The one plus I'll give the 940-1 is that Benchmade beautifully stonewashed that blade.
Keep it green baby : )
Yes, you're biased :)
I can't believe how hot this knife is! These are three of the five I have coming, all brand new in box! Somehow I must have become "The 940 Guy," LOL!
How would I go about getting you to sharpen one of my knives? Thanks
Check out my video. If you go to my channel page, search "TheApostleP Sharpening Service." If should be there. All aspects of my service, along with shipping / contact info are there. Thanks for the inquiry!
You beat me to it :)
The clip on my 940-1 just says benchmade not benchmade USA does that mean it's a fake?
Tyler Moser I don't think so I have the original 940 and it just says benchmade too. I think it just has to do with painted or pakarized pocket clips maybe.
If the clip says Benchmade USA it’s a fake I heard you say in another video
is it just me or is the one with the deep carry clip slightly larger than the others?
No, it's just looks that way because it's closer to the camera, that's why the green one looks the smallest.
Benchmade was on their A game with this one....
Did you even watch the video?
+Devon Spencer well "yes"
So where can I send my 940 to get theapostlep makeover?
Click on the video linked at about the 2 minute mark of any of my vids. It gives all the pertinent info in the description.
TheApostleP I have a griptillon that I have taken a part and cleaned and lubed thinking about send it for repair, but may see about sending it to you, but I can't figure out how to look up your info
Should I get serrated or no?
MetroSkyscraper Never!!' Partially serrated folders are made to be sold at chain stores to people who don't know any better. "Hey, that looks cool! Benchmade makes good knives, right? I should probably get that."
+TheApostleP Whats the reason not to get serrated? Seems like it would be much more useful
MetroSkyscraper Fully serrated blades have their place, certainly, but a short run of serrations are always too short, and plain edge from belly to tip is too short and in the wrong place. The combo edge is the spork of the knife world -- a spoon that leaks and a fork with tines that are too short to do anything with. Trust me.
I really want one. But unfortunately the Manix 2 with s110v steel came out at blade hq where I had both on pre order they both came out the same week. And my card got charged for the Manix first. So no I have a choice to pony up the cash for the 940 1. Or not. I mean I already have the forum rift with the carbin fiber scales. 940 s big brother and m4 steel. Witch is very impressive and only 300 made. And I do have the carbin fiber Manix with s90v steel. I think only 400 of those made also. But I still really want the 940 1. I guess I'm just a sick sick man. What the heck I get paid in two weeks anyways. But in two weeks will there be a 940 1 left to but. Pally not.
I found a place that is selling new 940-1 First Production Run, I picked up 463/750, and several other First Production Runs New, they also have several Prototypes that I've never seen in a catalog before, and a couple Red Box (I know they are China Made) but could they be worth anything, they are also selling Benchmade knife of the year set of 4 (1998-2001) with Soft Case and has 4 complete sets.
rule #9 always carry a knife (gibb's ruels from the ncis database)! Those protruding screws are grotesque. Do you know where i can find screws for the scales, if so do have you seen any that are anodized? Blue anodized titanium screws would look awesome with the spacers.
Not much help on that one, Jordan, but you're right!
Just got my 940-1 today, I don't really like it. I like my G10 mini Griptilian better. Wish I've gotten a spyderco sage 5 instead.
I paid $350 for both the 940-1 and 484-1 :)
+TheApostleP so are you going to get the knifeworks exclusive 940-1501? Black and blue layered g10 with blue backspacers and CPM-20CV blade steel. Just got one and it's pretty nice
+Jon R I haven't decided yet. I'm not really a blue & black G10 guy, but I do like the blade steel.
Enjoyed it.
Gotta get me a 940-1 and ZT 804
Will you sharpen anybody's knife? I have a 940-1 and it really needs a sharpening!?!
Nishil Patel this is a very late response but yes he will, he runs a small knife sharpening business.
I must say I'm shocked that Benchmade would ship $260 knives with screws protruding into the cavity. My head is reeling that their QC and QA are not better than that. Sorry, but that just seems like such a royal screw-up for such an experienced company.
Such a potentially perfect knife. For the price horrible QC. For this type of money, I expect a flawless product or at least flaws that are difficult to spot. Spyderco and many other imports are leaving Benchmade behind. I'd love to have this knife but not at that price and those flaws thrown in for free.
Spydercos are better as far as money for your knives.
Mike Neil you're right, i like the idea of having lifesharp at all times. I realize i paid for their sharpening service when i originally purchased the knife & it helps justify the cost of the knife.
B4 freedomfighter i have the 940-1 and the Adamas. The Adamas is impractical, youre right about that. It was an impulse buy i but dont regret because it is a good knife. Next one in line from benchmade i want is the linited edition mini crooked river. In my experience customer support can be as important as the product itself. Good customer service is the american way ;)
You pay for the services. Blade replacement 25 bucks every knife, laser etch 5 bucks, pocket clip change free lifetime free sharpening, etc.
I should have bought two cause I won't be able to fight the urge to use mine
Just use it! It's not like you're Jim Skelton, for goodness' sake!!!
I'm sorry Rob who is Jim Skelton?
Day one impessions: weird grip if you have big hands and the lock is WAY too stiff
You have big weak hands then.
Rule # 9 "always have a knife on you"
Chinese clones of the cf 940 and 943 for $75 are out now...just letting you know
Gotta love it :(
TheApostleP They look nice and I collect clones so I'll get one. Don't look at me like that lol
$75 for a CLONE?
Chris Brooks check it out... steelreviews.blogspot.com/2016/12/new-folders-and-knives-on-aliexpress_21.html?m=1
gibbs on NCIS
rule #9 always carry a knife
A wire clip would compliment the CF scale 940 quite well!
I just can’t finish watching this video. The sniffing, throat clearing, and swallowing every five seconds was just too much. It’s a shame, because the content was so good.