Ndebeles have nothing against any tribe it's only that the country politicians are just messing up with them . So that's why this woman is fuming.i think she is 100% right
I WAS BORN AND BRED IN BULAWAYO. I LIVE HERE STILL .THAT IS WHAT TICKS ME OFF . I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF TRAVELLING AND LIVING FAR AN WIDE IN AFRICA. AFRICA IS SIMPLY ONE. I SPEAK 5 AFRICAN LANGUAGES WITH NATIVE ABILITY NDEBELE INCLUDED. I DONT SEE NDEBELES AND SHONAS I SEE MISPLACED PASSION .I SEE VISION-LESS LEADERSHIP. I SEE IAN SMITHS WORDS COMING TO REALISATION. QUOTE " BLACK PEOPLE ARE NOT READY AND PREPARED TO RULE RHODESIA, NOT IN A THOUSAND YEARS( that is how long he thought it would take to be ready) IF IT HAPPENS IT WILL BE A DISASTER FOR RHODESIA. WHAT BETTER WAY TO DEMONSTRATE THE MAN'S FORESIGHT. IN SOUTH AFRICA WE CALLED IT XENOPHOBIA AND HERE IT IS CALLED ACTIVISM.
i am shona born and bred in blues. fluent in sindebele than shona. Hailing all the way from lobengula west. angivumelani lawe sis Eugene. lapha kwabulawayo sonke amashona nama ndebele siyahlupheka. Hamba khathesi kwele harare uzothola amandebele manengi. This is not how we solve things. All this is becoz of this mthwakazi political party which hates everything shona. sadly they hv even stated that once they get into power all shonas should leave matabeleland.
morningstar tribes are real, tribal identity is real, tribal difference is real - going forward simply means domination by the majority tribe of the minority tribe.
im shona speaking but will stand with my Ndebele family , from start Bulawayo have been an ignored city, why because the one who must be standing for them won't be standing for them , you can tribalise this all you want but these people have a point
One question, who voted for those councillors? Its their wards.... then the councillors nominate and vote for a mayor from themselves.... Last question: how does that become the cwntral government's fault?
U must be stupid.Will u ever allow a Ndebele councillor in Harare here in Kwa Xulu Natal we cannot allow a Xhosa Councillor here as well.Stop talking about rigged votes to the public
Wow I didn't know this kind of stuff happens in Zimbabwe. I'm Shona my primary school best friend was Ndebele and she loved me dearly. To me saying Ndebele was the same as saying ndiri Mumanyika. Kana kumboziva kuti kune marudzi anovengana kuZimbabwe. I am shook.
@@tanatswamaenda6724yes with passion infact if h don’t know.Bulawayo has been a burning multicultural society since 1800s.14 of the 15 tribes in Bulawayo living happily excluding 1 tribe which stands on our way.The Shona.They are 1)power hungry and greedy 2.Gukurahundi.Now all this lecture abt tribalism was brought up by Mugabe and his shona followers from 1980 running up the show.More evidence no White Afrikaans (majority) nor White british have been attacked by a Ndebele since 1980.Now put the same stats on Ndebele vs Shona In Bulawayo Homeground the results are shocking.So what goes on in Cape Town is exactly the same here in byo .All the tribes than live in byo not Ndebele or shona hate the shona with passion because of the common ground we share and language similarities.
@briansibanda4969 the ndebele can always go back to South Africa zimbabwe is majority shona and engaging in tribalism is stupid for the ndebele the shona are the majority and you will lose a tribal wae even your leaders realised that( Joshua nkomo)
@@tanatswamaenda6724 😂😂😂u are stupid u are not the true indegenous majority through genocide?Infact lol we have reshaped that Zimbabwe map .U are not ethically indegenous to Zimbabwe don’t try to fool anyone here.The Khoisan are the true indegenous.Pack your begs and g o back wherever u came from upnorth
The Ndebele people have a valid issue, as long people still shut out their cries....there is disaster on the Horizon. It's high time the Gukurahundi issue be addressed. Let's destroy these Mayor headaches and Councillors and put Kings and Advisors for city stability. If Jozi fail what will happen to those blood thirsty Ndebeles?? Now is the time we sit and correct that.
Genius you sound like you are intelligent, read your history and find your way out of this beautiful country if you want to be tribalist in a country which is treating you like the original inhabitants, remember all Ndebeles are foreigners.Munhu akadaro kunyarara ave kudinginda. Let the sleeping dogs lie.Musangwarise nhema, remember you people started this. Now you're at it again . Remember you came from Zulu land.
Priscila Magaya, if l may ask where did you come from??..Your arrogance is toxic, the point is we are all here and just like Rwandan Tustis and Hutus one tribe is dissatisfied. What can be done to correct that. (Read about the Genocide in Rwanda and its causes.) With a proper Dialogue lets resolve this.
To my Ndebele brothers and sisters I know we have a lot of issues to deal with but this is not the way. If you don't like the mayor you simply vote which is what just happened. Also the fact that the man is shona should not matter. Judge him instead with what he does after he is in office. Does it matter if the city prospers under a shona or Ndebele? We have issues which have to be acknowledged done by the likes of Ed and Mugabe but to hold ourselves back over mistakes by our forefathers is stupid. Let's unite as Zimbabweans be it ama Ndebele or ma shona or samanyika. This country needs all of us...
Unity comes through respect...as long as Shona people respect our land and let us rule bulawayo,there shall be unity.Bulawayo can go forward when led by its people who know the city's problems and projects.We can't let an idiot from Mbare to lead Bulawayo cauz he will bring the dirtyness of mdare to BULAWAYO
@@vukanikhuzwayo7879 I thought Zimbabwe was for Zimbabweans regardless of race or tribe. We have Ndebele people leading in Harare. Finance minister who I have confidence in is of Ndebele origin. But tasked with making a better Zimbabwe for all of us. Let this tribalism go. We are one and let's build a better nation for our kids. Mbare problems, just like all other problems in zimb need to be fixed and frankly the majority of the population don't care who does it.
@@rannytapiwa988 Listen....We have been abused by Shona people worse in our own land and enough is enough.To see whether you are telling me the truth,give me a Ndebele candidate in Harare whether he won or not I don't care all I want to see is a Ndebele candidate and I will confirm on internet.As for minister Ncube,he is for the state that's why no complaints have been made.Thokozani khuphe was vice prime minister of the state that's why no complaints were made.Here we are talking of bulawayo only.A land for Ndebele people unlike Zimbabwe for all of us.Bulawayo deserves a Ndebele speaking mayor for communication with citizens,a Ndebele mayor who can continue with good water delivery not a shona mayor who will bring sewage water copying what Harare does.We want a mayor who lives in Bulawayo and knows it from mganwini to northend not shona mayor who stays in Harare and comes to byo for meetings only. I am not a tribalistic person but that's the truth.No nation,place,group can go forward when led by foreigners
All we need is service delivery, it doesn't matter which tribe the leader is.For instance we were led by Mugabe but there are so many Shonas here in South Africa who are suffering. Here in Johannesburg CBD shop owners are complaining about these Shona people that live in Methodist church,the city is clumsy and dirty because of them,ubutshapha amashona akade ebenza eZim babenza lana eGoli manje!!
@@vukanikhuzwayo7879 you are a fool.people like you are reckless and dangerous and should not be allowed a platform cos you wave a tribalistic card and nothing concrete comes out.
One day I wish my Ndebele brothers and sisters will come back home to Kwa Zulu Natal, because I'm looking at these comments and it's clear that Shonas don't want our brothers and sisters. Buyelani ekhaya zingane zakwethu, muningi umhlaba lakwa Zulu ungasanela sonke. I hope this happens one day, sihlangane sibe ndaweni eyodwa sonke❤️✊🏿. I will be visiting Bulawayo ngifuna ukubona kuthi usiko nesali bambe nge ndlela yini.
This is just a strategy to crush the Ndebele tribe.You cannot elect a Zulu/Xhosa person from Kwazulu Natal/Western Cape to go to Venda in Limpopo and be Mayor of the venda people.No no no
@Thokomagonya Ndlovu Kalanga rhymes with Karanga and the languages are 50% similar. A Shona speaking person can pick a lot of things a Kalanga will be saying but a Ndebele can not.
@Thokomagonya Ndlovu The languages are very similar. Ndebele and Kalanga are not similar at all.Ndebele falls under Nguni.U must read Emmanuel Moyo's piece titled "Kalangas must shake off the Ndebele shadow"
Their history began when a Zulu chiefdom split from King Shaka in the early 19th century under the leadership of Mzilikazi, a former chief in his kingdom and ally. Under his command the disgruntled Zulus went on to conquer and rule the chiefdoms of the Southern Ndebele. This was where the name and identity of the eventual kingdom was adopted., more to came
Now they act like Zimbabwe is their country "tipe nyika yedhu" like she said ,forgetting that their originally come from South Africa .....if it was not for Mzilikazi's selfish motives they wouldn't be here in Zimbabwe .they all crcly need to take a chill pill and stop being tribalistic.
Stop lying to the people King Mzilikazi left nowaday Zulu kingdom because of tension between Shaka and Him. It was not under his command King Mzilikazi was the heir of the Khumalo throne which was destroyed by his grandfather King Zwide KaLanga which was were Mzilikazi grow up and learnt how to fight wars..
This is so sad, Zimbabwe is for everyone - there are many Ndebele people being given prominent positions in Harare. Many Ndebele people are living in Mashonaland and visa versa. Most of my relatives who are shona leave in Bulawayo and have raised their families there and they speak Ndebele. This is so wrong. To the person who said the Finance minister is Ndebele - please be advised that the government is not tribal, it is a national government and those who serve in government should not be seen as being black or white, Ndebele or Shona, ZANU or opposition. They are are serving Zimbabwe as a whole and they have the right to be in government. And they have been chosen because of their credentials. People let us unite and love one another.
Name one who have a post in Harare council ,or who is a tea boy ,when we protect in Bulawayo we are tribalist, you even say it that this country will never be run by a Ndebele ,look at MDC, when Morgan died, just because khuphe is Ndebele , you give chamisa
Phillipah Tsuro I agree a 100 percent being Shona and having been raised in Bulawayo as long as he I qualified for the position thats all that maters heshould not leave the mayoral seat purely beacause he is Shona . They should find valid reason for him to quit
Lier.....Shona people raised in Bulawayo don't speak Ndebele!Teachers are struggling to raise Ndebele pass rates from primary to high cauz of children who come and say we speak Shona at shona!Even in churches,we here of mwari instead of NKULUNKULU?So ukufunda isiNdebele sifundwa ngaphi
People don't use their thinking when voting , they vote along the Party lines and peer pressure. Now its a sad development because at this stage its no longer at people's hands
Some of the comments are just hateful,we are married to ndebeles and shonas,what's the problem?My problem is that there is a lot of hypocrisy going on.Chamisa is shona but Ndebeles like him,why?
Am a shona But to be honest We should not fight We should resolve our issue in a right way Fighting will always not an answer Division will lead to an weak county It doesn't matter who is in charge For me i will need to see a president of zim from ndebele And see what they can do to change our country. The way the byo city did was wrong but we should not criticis them We should unite and stand together. This whole incident is from gukurahundi and miss use of gvt money by shona patty zanu pf. Zanu pf is taking back the whole country. Bulawayo need to see changes in their own power and theirs own ndebele speeakers Zanu pf is to be blamed for all this division. Failing to compansate gukurahundi incident Failling bring better life of its citizens Failing to control inflammation Failing to develop the nationa Blaming sanctions while they are looting diamonds and gold
Whose Mumsy is that one? I feel sorry for the children and their children when you have magogo who preaches venom. What is language after all we are all human . Dont be silly magogo. You are very very evil , you want to start a tribal war ? I wish you can go back and grow up ambuya
yes with passion infact if u don’t know.Bulawayo has been a burning multicultural society since 1800s.14 of the 15 tribes in Bulawayo living happily excluding 1 tribe which stands on our way.The Shona.They are 1)power hungry and greedy 2.Gukurahundi.Now all this lecture abt tribalism was brought up by Mugabe and his shona followers from 1980 running up the show.More evidence no White Afrikaans (majority) nor White british have been attacked by a Ndebele since 1980.Now put the same stats on Ndebele vs Shona In Bulawayo Homeground the results are shocking.So what goes on in Cape Town is exactly the same here in byo .All the tribes than live in byo not Ndebele or shona hate the shona with passion because of the common ground we share and language similarities.
Collectively & Patriotically Referred to AS Zimbabweans being Residents of Our Great Zimbabwean Nation irregardless of Race or Creed.We Are all One PROUD PEOPLE...ZIMBABWEANS
Gogo said Pfeeeeeeee--- Ndebele must accept. Mayor. Being ndebele or shona its not a issue. But pple to be so collective. If thy says bulayo is zimbabwe thy strt segregation wc wil Put them ignored
City of Harare's Town Clerk is Josephine Ncube a Ndebele and no Shonas complained. And Town Clerk is the highest non elective position. I've always been proud of byo but this is pathetic to say the least.
Ndebeles are tribalists and they think they are a superior tribe amongst other tribes in Zimbabwe. Sorry, you are foreigners just like the former colonialists.
Ncube is not necessarily Ndebele. In fact the town standards have fallen to the lowest standards since this councillor took over. It's deplorable, it's all about political clout.
We are wasting our time ngokuthethisana kuthukana but we all same if disaster come we will face us as Zimbabweans like now no jobs no money we must unit to remove zany pf
WE DONT WANT TO REMOVE ZANU PF WHEN ZUNA PF WAS KILLING US NO1 WAS SAYING ANYTHING BUT TODAY WE WANT OUR LAND YOU TELL US WE NEED TO UNITY AND REMOVE ZANU PF IBINGAPHI IUNIT FORM 83 TO 87....ASIKHOHLWANGA AND ALISIQHEDANGA LIZABUYA KUPHELA
U will be shocked if u go to Bulawayo from Harare that people wouldn’t know that the term ‘Ndebele’ it’s a mixture of Zulu Sotho Venda and Xhosa.But the term Zimbabwe the country is associated with Shona.I have been to Harare a few times and l heard their views about what they think of Bulawayo.Almost 99.9 % shona speakers think that Bulawayo is 100% Ndebele which is not true.Even 90% Ndebele is not True.The fact is Ndebeles in Matebeleland as a whole make up 60% of the entire group.Xhosa people of Zimbabwe make up 35% of that matebeleland group and 5%Sotho Venda and Kalanga.All these 4 groups in Matebeleland learn Ndebele in School as mandatory with a paper 3 in which u choose between Zulu and Xhosa as well as Afrikaans.The Zimbabwe government classfied all these 5 groups to be Ndebele in Matebeleland due to the fact that there is no Sotho Xhosa and Venda exams just like shona and Ndebele.So the next generation will speak Ndebele but feel more comfortable in Xhosa or Sotho or Venda as second language or in most cases first then Ndebele second.Just to point out to people that The term Matebeleland shouldn’t be confused with everyone being Ndebele.Ndebeles are part of Matebeleland not that everyone in Matebeleland is Ndebele.
Ozzie is right, in short he is saying you are foreigners here but if it were in KZN kumusha kwako ndiko kwawaitaura uchidaro. You are foreigners in Zimbabwe or colonialists. Simpuru.
Its hard to live with shona people.they are not bad people but we just don't get along..they have destroyed the country forced us out side the country.we don't like that.lathi sifuna ukuhlala emakhaya ethu siphile kamnandi.we don't share the same view that's why we must split.omunye lo munye ngakibo...
@@leoricdabs3222 u really think Africans are different from one another? We have a lot more in common than u think. Remain small minded. That's on you boo
We are different wena.there's a big cultural difference btwn us and shona pipo.they don't mind migrating,being called names over seas and being chased away.we have dignity.we love home.the only reason why we leave is coz they have fucked up everything. Shona people live in the now.they are not eco friendly or conservative they jus want to be comfort able and forget abt the future.
It all started in ZIPA (Zimbabwe Peoples Army) merging of Zipra & Zanla, that's where the shona declared themselves leaders & Ndebeles followers. Whenever the 2 movements united, a Shona must lead & a Ndebele must follow, very wrong principle & whenever a Shona must lead a Ndebele must die, we saw it in ZIPA, Ndebeles died, We saw it in 1981 under demobilisation & Intergration shonas led & pple had to die. This tribalism must stop
Even the Shonaz before the arrival of the Pioneer column, the cattle, grain, strong man and beautiful Shona women. These so called Ndebeles, who think they are saints today . Time will never erase history instead it enriches it.
They were the spies and sell outs as well as protected species. That's how most Ndebeles were forced to speak Shona. Why don't you ask about all the other minority tribes as there were many. Where were you then? Your mindset is totally limited.
But I think we are one, as we in other countries working for our Families, we be equal to each other Africans or even Whites God made us the same. Thina sifuna imisebenzi back Zimbabwe please guys, whites must come back, ngoba now seniyalwa nodwa.
I feel u ndebeles go to mashland u will never find a ndebele mayor. Now even in the work sector pple frm mashland are being put where locals are supposed to benefit hence left deprived. We are one people but justice is not saved. This is the naked truth
no ndebele in mashonaland if they remove the Mayor , they steal the land from our fathers it was called mabheadzeva not matopos they came from south Africa so they should shut up they killed our father's by mzilikazi when he come to Zimbabwe running away from tsaka that history.
U are stupid who wrote those history books.Havs u never been told how u commited Genocide before we got there.The shonas we’re the first before Ndebele to arrive in Zimbabwe.Areiving and being Indegenous are two different things.Tge reason y u are the majority in the country it’s through genocide for both Khoisan and Ndebele.The most interesting thing is that someone like u cannot walk freely in🇿🇦 nor Botswana 🇧🇼.Do you u know why?Bulawayo has kin and kith tribes whose family can be traced to both countries.Bulawayo houses 14/15 tribes there.Mashonaland only shona.To meet a Ndebele or any of the tribes is rare 1 in 100.So please don’t spread that nonsense pile of headaches from the propaganda sources u got from those Zanu pf shona books
isn't he a ZIMBABWEAN first the Shona. This is why certain areas of ZIMBABWE especially in Matebeleland will never develop this is why Binga is so backward because they want a Tonga name on everything and do not open up for other internal tribes .this is neo colonialism at work .if it was a white man they could not have protested.
If the Shona guy was living in Bulawayo all along i don't see why not. Anyways Ndebeles are ruling the country right now, Commander of the Defence Forces is Ndebele, Air Force Marshall is a Ndebele, Minister of Finance is Ndebele, Minister of Foreign Affairs is Ndebele. These guys can take over Zimbabwe any day they choose.
You're a a typical oppressive mind @shonaboy. In fact the Mayor is not from Bulawayo and is new to the area, moved there to secure seat for the opposition. Very typical minute thinking ruining everything. Hence your tribal specific comment. This is what's wrong with the country. Each city councillor must be representative of the local population people who born and bred there and deeply connected to that city, not overnight nomads seeking political ground.
You are stupid in the head.Trye power is in the hands of the president.They will never be a Ndebele mayor in Harare and they should not be a shona mayor in Bulawayo case closed
This is painful and pathetic to every Zimbabwean to hear such a thing but why people still have this division in mind ndebele or shona the bottom line we are all Zimbabweans brothers and sisters Jesus christ
You don't understand. Some of us lived under discrimination. We were expected to know how to speak Shona to get ID, Passport etc and this is since 1980.
@@sqrd3536yet you are soo happy to live under colonial English. Shona is the national language of Zimbabwe. Ndebele is a minority language in Zimbabwe and predominantly a South African language. So if you want to be in the majority go to South Africa Africa where you won't be felt as much as you want to felt in Zimbabwe.
That's why Zimbabwe is going backwards cauz of a tribe called Shona people who are selfish.They lack knowledge and tholukuthi they want to lead areas they don't.Really,shona people leave us alone
Incoherent.... the BCC is full of opposition lawyers... and the lady said they were rigged into power.... They elected each other for mayor and deputy mayor... and "Shona" surnamed people got mayoral posts... There is no issue
It's painful being a Ndebele person in Zimbabwe.....amaShona want everything in Zimbabwe yet they can not handle everything.....give back Matabele people their power .. address the #Gukurahundi
Khupe ndiye nyoka iyoyo yakonzeresa but mukambotarira here KU Harare never complained about Ndebele instead they voted for debele in Harare because they understand ukuti kusiyana kwerurimi hakuna basa fungaiwo
It's truly funny when Morgan died ,the party split ,cause the top post was going to a Ndebele, (khupe) no one said a thing ,k,that not tribal ism ,but when people of BYO protest ,its tribalism
The irony, is that this is a measure of xenophobia. Perhaps we should simply say no shonas should run for council seats in Bulawayo? and no ndebeles should run for council seats in Harare? Maybe this why Smith said it's disaster for Rhodesia.if he was Tonga was it going to be ok? What about a white guy ? Or Venda? We are failing look at the black record , genocide_ gukurahundi , financial ruin, cholera, xenophobia with glorified explanations, a failed state. Misplaced activism like this one, vision less leadership. Nxaaaaa
U are crazy Bulawayo does not have a problem with any tribe to be the mayor of Zimbabwe except for shona.Shona that’s is so personal.Cultural identity is real.An Englishman cannot be prime minister of Scotland.No chance but a Scottish man can be the prime minister of the whole country.A xhosa man cannot be a councillor in Kwa Zulu Natal even if they share the same cultural boarders.Shonas in Harare Wont be blamed if they woke up saying they want a Shona councillor.It’s allowed to do so.Shonas are well known for being tribalist and pier hungry thirsty savages since 1980.The Ndebele of of them 15 tribes can place a shona 6 feet under.
OK Nbebele pple. Technically Bulawayo s not yours you belong in SA where Shaka chased your ancestors away saying they aren't human . you should be fighting for SA citizenships if you really understand history. Anyway, in other countries people are protesting in a bid to make economic change while someone is protesting against race? Small thinking, good luck
You people say different things...this minute you talk about chasing us to back to S.A....next minute you talk of unity cauz you believe that Ndebele people can develop the nation so which is which
We are not humans.you must have your history twisted.is that the history you learn in mashonaland.we left on our own we didn't get chased away.why unje wena shona lothuvi
Only people coming from outside moving into these positions whilst the locals are denied. In fact the guy has let this City down the town looks like a dumpsite. He is a show off and hasn't done nothing significant for BYO. Since 1980 the locals sidelined for jobs and opportunities, it's about time! We don't mind a BYO bred boy who actually cares to look after it not someone who doesn't care and from outside, no interest in knowing the people but calling himself a 'city father'. He wasn't voted in definitely.
So, let me get this, the Ndebeles in KwaBulawayo voted for Shona councilors who will inturn vote (as councilors) for a mayor of their choice as mandated by the KwaBulawayo voters! Khupe was begging the KwaBulawayo people to swallow the tribal hook and you refused flatley, knowing fully well that it was a poisoned chalice! in mathematics 2 + 2 = 4! always!! If you vote for a Shona councilor, chances are he/she is gonna vote for a Shona Mayor! LIVE WITH IT!! You are not alone! The whole of Zimbabwe have been forced to live with a 75 year old as our president!! WE CERTAINLY DON'T LIKE IT, BUT WHAT CAN WE DO??
When you are in ROME,let the ROMANS lead ROME,when you are in matebelend,let the NDEBELEs lead MATEBELELAND!!! Lizwile maShona,bazukulu baka mbuya nehanda
U're mad! Change Mashonaland but Matabeleland will remain as it is bcoz its the land of our forefathers who fought against Colonialism & also freed this country frm Colonialism too.
@@ndikxxndimande5542 forefathers who came from KZN every1 knws that and sold the country to colonialist hehe lets just leave the past behind coz . . . And that tribal stronghold is being neutralised bit by bit as u can already c . . . 😄
The big question is who said bulawayo is for ndebele people and secondly bulawayo belongs to Zimbabweans not ndebele people only thats a great error thirdly to those ndebele people calling and threatening war aganist shona people and talking about creating your own republic in zimbabwe you should take your time and sit down study the past and facts about shona people you will realize that shona people dont hate ndebeles they just hate your tribal mentality and your negetive attitude thats all besides that they are intermarriages and its working perfectly. personally i have great respect for the late joshua nkomo he never insulted or hated anyone because his shona he was a real Zimbabwean if you ask me. lastly to those extremist ndebeles who think and believe in hatred against shona people and wants to go to war against them i want you to sit down and do your math if you can see that they is any chance that you can possibly win that war then when you are truly convinced that you will win then you can as well start the war asap ? but if not then its time to change for better ..........................
@@ntobekomangena2958if it's abt corruption they is a clear good example of your uncle Jonathan moyo everyone knows his corruption case as for loudness I dont think it's an issue to talk about then lastly hygiene if u really believe that if someone is a Ndebele they are automatically hygienic and if they are shona its the opposite case then it's time to grow up and think like a real adult.........
@@ntobekomangena2958 we are the best my dear we smell very good we are intelligent smart and a beautiful tribe of africa very proud indeed and unfortunately what you think doesn't count or matter......kkkkkkk
@@ntobekomangena2958 yes we have our issues but the moment you u start a war with us then u will find yourself fighting against one people and the outcome you have a record of it you knw it ..........
Lol i understand them saying zimbabwe belong to zimbabweans and now dont be to quick to judge if it was South Africa thel be saying nywe nywe making noise Zenophobia kwaaaa good
I don't understand what's the problem of being a shona Mayor .You ndebeles wake up yessses .This position meant to be for him .Be educated ndebeles why are you protesting for .By therefore the one you want him or her to be a Mayor he will forgot you all lizoba lilamba ezindlini zenu .Lilele too much .What ever will it be .
Zimbabwe only existed after 1980 and it incorporates every tribe between Zambezi and Limpopo. I am Shona and I think all Nippon Shona people have been marginalised for too long. Devolution is the best way to deal with this
Why should this be triba.The Deputy Mayor was elected.There are problems with service delivery in Harare too!Please let issues be issues but to think its constitutional to say you don't want a Shona official in Bulawayo is taking it too far and myopical.Shonas are Zimbabwean too!This cannot be tolerated!Suppose Mzilikazi,Gundwane raids,rape,forced labour,etc never happened.Worse still the ignoramus Ndebele king Lobengula sold of Shona country!You don't think we have feelings too!!!Please don't stir a hornet's nest!You must be drunk gogo!!!
As for me I think there must be no Shona in Bulawayo as well we are not there in Harare so siyekeni sodwa alibizwanga asilifuni ngoba lingasifuni lani lifuna ukuze libulawe yini ngenhliziyo yami kwamele lishiswe zinja
Plenty of ndebele in Harare and all over Zimbabwe. Married to shona and some to ndebele. You should travel around Zimbabwe you may be disappointed to see so many people from different regions getting along. And that Dube guy next door his Mother is Shona. Oops if truth be told plenty of shona I your family too so sit down and be quite.
If only some people would understand that the area under contention waz once called Guruuswa, if only some people would know that they are not more than 200 yrs old in zim, if only some people fully know the origin and meaning of zimbabwe, if only some people accept that they constitute 10% of zim population , and lastly if some people know that we fought a systen that was given exclusive rights to do what they deem necessary just because of sugar then i dont think there was going to be any issue here.
If only people knew that you are a fool. MaShonaland was colonized before Matabeleland & when the whites waged the war against the Ndebeles they were assisted to complete the colonization of the country by your ancestors.
The Shona can be really racist towards the Matabele so this, plus the terrible things the Pro-Shona Mugabe government has done to them, explains why the Matabele feel so strongly about this.
sammy bear All I am hearing is people trying not to talk about Shona discrimination towards Matabeles by instead having a debate about the definition of racism.
Ndebeles have nothing against any tribe it's only that the country politicians are just messing up with them .
So that's why this woman is fuming.i think she is 100% right
thats true.
Go back to south africa
Thanks Patricia ..you have a positive mind
I am Shona and having a Shona Mayor in Bulawayo is in insensitive considering our history of what Mugabe/Mngangwa did to the Ndebeles.
if you arent a ndebele and if u dont live in Bulawayo you wont understand this
I WAS BORN AND BRED IN BULAWAYO. I LIVE HERE STILL .THAT IS WHAT TICKS ME OFF . I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF TRAVELLING AND LIVING FAR AN WIDE IN AFRICA. AFRICA IS SIMPLY ONE. I SPEAK 5 AFRICAN LANGUAGES WITH NATIVE ABILITY NDEBELE INCLUDED. I DONT SEE NDEBELES AND SHONAS I SEE MISPLACED PASSION .I SEE VISION-LESS LEADERSHIP. I SEE IAN SMITHS WORDS COMING TO REALISATION. QUOTE " BLACK PEOPLE ARE NOT READY AND PREPARED TO RULE RHODESIA, NOT IN A THOUSAND YEARS( that is how long he thought it would take to be ready) IF IT HAPPENS IT WILL BE A DISASTER FOR RHODESIA. WHAT BETTER WAY TO DEMONSTRATE THE MAN'S FORESIGHT. IN SOUTH AFRICA WE CALLED IT XENOPHOBIA AND HERE IT IS CALLED ACTIVISM.
i am shona born and bred in blues. fluent in sindebele than shona. Hailing all the way from lobengula west. angivumelani lawe sis Eugene. lapha kwabulawayo sonke amashona nama ndebele siyahlupheka. Hamba khathesi kwele harare uzothola amandebele manengi. This is not how we solve things. All this is becoz of this mthwakazi political party which hates everything shona. sadly they hv even stated that once they get into power all shonas should leave matabeleland.
I'm Ndebele leaving in plumtree and I 100% understand even here in plumtree shona ppl have high positions
@@silentlessons4221 of course u gonna agree with her coz u not Ndebele
Would you protest a white mayor? I think not. So you have no point.
Respect the cry that comes from bulawayo
Equal share of political power for all Zimbabweans!!
Devolution of power is the solution
Why is it that we never had a Ndebele Mayor in any of Mashonaland city? We have a right of expressing our feelings.
morningstar tribes are real, tribal identity is real, tribal difference is real - going forward simply means domination by the majority tribe of the minority tribe.
And who is stopping you from campaigning to be a mayor there ? no one right.
Check Chitungwiza City's Mayoral hierachy also Vic Falls not a Tonga town and check the mayors name will you.
Themba mliswa
@@isaacshoko1895don’t broadcast your shona pathetic arrogance to the whole world.People like u don’t deserve life of this planet
im shona speaking but will stand with my Ndebele family , from start Bulawayo have been an ignored city, why because the one who must be standing for them won't be standing for them , you can tribalise this all you want but these people have a point
One question, who voted for those councillors? Its their wards.... then the councillors nominate and vote for a mayor from themselves....
Last question: how does that become the cwntral government's fault?
thats for your ignorant ass to find out
U must be stupid.Will u ever allow a Ndebele councillor in Harare here in Kwa Xulu Natal we cannot allow a Xhosa Councillor here as well.Stop talking about rigged votes to the public
You don't understand how mayor's are elected.
Ibva apa mira nevanhu vapi!!!? Diabolical you are unotopenga
Wow I didn't know this kind of stuff happens in Zimbabwe. I'm Shona my primary school best friend was Ndebele and she loved me dearly. To me saying Ndebele was the same as saying ndiri Mumanyika. Kana kumboziva kuti kune marudzi anovengana kuZimbabwe. I am shook.
you wouldn't understand if you don't live in Bulawayo
Ndebele people hate us Shona with a passion they hate us coz of gukurahundi not knowing we also hate zanu pf
@@tanatswamaenda6724yes with passion infact if h don’t know.Bulawayo has been a burning multicultural society since 1800s.14 of the 15 tribes in Bulawayo living happily excluding 1 tribe which stands on our way.The Shona.They are 1)power hungry and greedy 2.Gukurahundi.Now all this lecture abt tribalism was brought up by Mugabe and his shona followers from 1980 running up the show.More evidence no White Afrikaans (majority) nor White british have been attacked by a Ndebele since 1980.Now put the same stats on Ndebele vs Shona In Bulawayo Homeground the results are shocking.So what goes on in Cape Town is exactly the same here in byo .All the tribes than live in byo not Ndebele or shona hate the shona with passion because of the common ground we share and language similarities.
@briansibanda4969 the ndebele can always go back to South Africa zimbabwe is majority shona and engaging in tribalism is stupid for the ndebele the shona are the majority and you will lose a tribal wae even your leaders realised that( Joshua nkomo)
@@tanatswamaenda6724 😂😂😂u are stupid u are not the true indegenous majority through genocide?Infact lol we have reshaped that Zimbabwe map .U are not ethically indegenous to Zimbabwe don’t try to fool anyone here.The Khoisan are the true indegenous.Pack your begs and g o back wherever u came from upnorth
Libhala uthuvi kuphela lah . Mina ngithi kungcono sifake umncwele nxa kuhlupha kuphela lokhu.
The Ndebele people have a valid issue, as long people still shut out their cries....there is disaster on the Horizon. It's high time the Gukurahundi issue be addressed. Let's destroy these Mayor headaches and Councillors and put Kings and Advisors for city stability. If Jozi fail what will happen to those blood thirsty Ndebeles?? Now is the time we sit and correct that.
Uribenzi iwe
Thank you, l don't blame you- you're very Special
Genius you sound like you are intelligent, read your history and find your way out of this beautiful country if you want to be tribalist in a country which is treating you like the original inhabitants, remember all Ndebeles are foreigners.Munhu akadaro kunyarara ave kudinginda. Let the sleeping dogs lie.Musangwarise nhema, remember you people started this. Now you're at it again . Remember you came from Zulu land.
@@priscilamagaya8884 Arrogance
Priscila Magaya, if l may ask where did you come from??..Your arrogance is toxic, the point is we are all here and just like Rwandan Tustis and Hutus one tribe is dissatisfied. What can be done to correct that. (Read about the Genocide in Rwanda and its causes.) With a proper Dialogue lets resolve this.
To my Ndebele brothers and sisters I know we have a lot of issues to deal with but this is not the way. If you don't like the mayor you simply vote which is what just happened. Also the fact that the man is shona should not matter. Judge him instead with what he does after he is in office. Does it matter if the city prospers under a shona or Ndebele?
We have issues which have to be acknowledged done by the likes of Ed and Mugabe but to hold ourselves back over mistakes by our forefathers is stupid.
Let's unite as Zimbabweans be it ama Ndebele or ma shona or samanyika.
This country needs all of us...
Unity comes through respect...as long as Shona people respect our land and let us rule bulawayo,there shall be unity.Bulawayo can go forward when led by its people who know the city's problems and projects.We can't let an idiot from Mbare to lead Bulawayo cauz he will bring the dirtyness of mdare to BULAWAYO
@@vukanikhuzwayo7879
I thought Zimbabwe was for Zimbabweans regardless of race or tribe. We have Ndebele people leading in Harare. Finance minister who I have confidence in is of Ndebele origin. But tasked with making a better Zimbabwe for all of us. Let this tribalism go. We are one and let's build a better nation for our kids. Mbare problems, just like all other problems in zimb need to be fixed and frankly the majority of the population don't care who does it.
@@rannytapiwa988 Listen....We have been abused by Shona people worse in our own land and enough is enough.To see whether you are telling me the truth,give me a Ndebele candidate in Harare whether he won or not I don't care all I want to see is a Ndebele candidate and I will confirm on internet.As for minister Ncube,he is for the state that's why no complaints have been made.Thokozani khuphe was vice prime minister of the state that's why no complaints were made.Here we are talking of bulawayo only.A land for Ndebele people unlike Zimbabwe for all of us.Bulawayo deserves a Ndebele speaking mayor for communication with citizens,a Ndebele mayor who can continue with good water delivery not a shona mayor who will bring sewage water copying what Harare does.We want a mayor who lives in Bulawayo and knows it from mganwini to northend not shona mayor who stays in Harare and comes to byo for meetings only.
I am not a tribalistic person but that's the truth.No nation,place,group can go forward when led by foreigners
All we need is service delivery, it doesn't matter which tribe the leader is.For instance we were led by Mugabe but there are so many Shonas here in South Africa who are suffering. Here in Johannesburg CBD shop owners are complaining about these Shona people that live in Methodist church,the city is clumsy and dirty because of them,ubutshapha amashona akade ebenza eZim babenza lana eGoli manje!!
@@vukanikhuzwayo7879 you are a fool.people like you are reckless and dangerous and should not be allowed a platform cos you wave a tribalistic card and nothing concrete comes out.
We call for love Among Africans ,,,
One day I wish my Ndebele brothers and sisters will come back home to Kwa Zulu Natal, because I'm looking at these comments and it's clear that Shonas don't want our brothers and sisters. Buyelani ekhaya zingane zakwethu, muningi umhlaba lakwa Zulu ungasanela sonke. I hope this happens one day, sihlangane sibe ndaweni eyodwa sonke❤️✊🏿. I will be visiting Bulawayo ngifuna ukubona kuthi usiko nesali bambe nge ndlela yini.
who said ndebeles are zulu haybo they must remain in zimbabwe or go to mpumalanga bahlulwa amakwerekwere
@@nonhlanhlanunsy9179 uyi slima wena Nonhlanhla, abakithi labantu ukube uMthwakazi akahambanga kwaZulu ngabe balana. Sebenzisa ingqondo
Yes
@@nonhlanhlanunsy9179 ngiyakusizela dadewethu ingoba awazi amaNdebele abanye bethù
@@nonhlanhlanunsy9179 Nonhlanhla akusebenzise ikhanda ungazo phapha njalo ungasibizi nge gama elithi makwerekwere
This is just a strategy to crush the Ndebele tribe.You cannot elect a Zulu/Xhosa person from Kwazulu Natal/Western Cape to go to Venda in Limpopo and be Mayor of the venda people.No no no
Ndebeles are the only ones who whine in Zimbabwe. Kalangas,Vendas,Tongas and Nambyas are not like that
@Thokomagonya Ndlovu bunched together by who??There are a lot of Shonas married to Ndebeles too
@Thokomagonya Ndlovu Kalanga rhymes with Karanga and the languages are 50% similar. A Shona speaking person can pick a lot of things a Kalanga will be saying but a Ndebele can not.
@Thokomagonya Ndlovu The languages are very similar. Ndebele and Kalanga are not similar at all.Ndebele falls under Nguni.U must read Emmanuel Moyo's piece titled "Kalangas must shake off the Ndebele shadow"
@Thokomagonya Ndlovu kalanga is a shona dialect but they run away from it (identity crisis)cos Mzilikazi brainwashed them.
@Thokomagonya Ndlovu you may deny it but that's the truth.
Their history began when a Zulu chiefdom split from King Shaka in the early 19th century under the leadership of Mzilikazi, a former chief in his kingdom and ally. Under his command the disgruntled Zulus went on to conquer and rule the chiefdoms of the Southern Ndebele. This was where the name and identity of the eventual kingdom was adopted., more to came
Yes Mzilikazi surname was Khumalo pure Zulu there
It started when the idiot Mugabe came to power
Shona History started in Burundi & East Africa
Now they act like Zimbabwe is their country "tipe nyika yedhu" like she said ,forgetting that their originally come from South Africa .....if it was not for Mzilikazi's selfish motives they wouldn't be here in Zimbabwe .they all crcly need to take a chill pill and stop being tribalistic.
Stop lying to the people King Mzilikazi left nowaday Zulu kingdom because of tension between Shaka and Him. It was not under his command King Mzilikazi was the heir of the Khumalo throne which was destroyed by his grandfather King Zwide KaLanga which was were Mzilikazi grow up and learnt how to fight wars..
This is so sad, Zimbabwe is for everyone - there are many Ndebele people being given prominent positions in Harare. Many Ndebele people are living in Mashonaland and visa versa. Most of my relatives who are shona leave in Bulawayo and have raised their families there and they speak Ndebele. This is so wrong. To the person who said the Finance minister is Ndebele - please be advised that the government is not tribal, it is a national government and those who serve in government should not be seen as being black or white, Ndebele or Shona, ZANU or opposition. They are are serving Zimbabwe as a whole and they have the right to be in government. And they have been chosen because of their credentials. People let us unite and love one another.
Name one who have a post in Harare council ,or who is a tea boy ,when we protect in Bulawayo we are tribalist, you even say it that this country will never be run by a Ndebele ,look at MDC, when Morgan died, just because khuphe is Ndebele , you give chamisa
Uyabheda wena. Uyeza okutshoyo, how many of those in positions okhuluma ngabo. Vula mehlo ungazobheda
Phillipah Tsuro I agree a 100 percent being Shona and having been raised in Bulawayo as long as he I qualified for the position thats all that maters heshould not leave the mayoral seat purely beacause he is Shona . They should find valid reason for him to quit
Well said!
Lier.....Shona people raised in Bulawayo don't speak Ndebele!Teachers are struggling to raise Ndebele pass rates from primary to high cauz of children who come and say we speak Shona at shona!Even in churches,we here of mwari instead of NKULUNKULU?So ukufunda isiNdebele sifundwa ngaphi
Zimbabwe is for all, one love for Zimbabwe, we all love it and will ever be part of it.
Devolution of power is the solution
Ndebeles can never be elected in Hurungwe,murehwa,chimanimani to be local leaders
The political activist has a huge point.
We want Ndebele leaders kwa Bulawayo.
hmm I guess the people there must have voted Ndebele councillors in the first place
People don't use their thinking when voting , they vote along the Party lines and peer pressure. Now its a sad development because at this stage its no longer at people's hands
so vote for them. that's how elections work
They should show up during primary elections and be active in party politics umsebenzi yikuyathenga ingubo egoli 😂😂
You don't own Bulawayo shut the hell up
Yes asifuni maShona ilwan bantwana bakaMthwakazi abayozingela amagundwane
Where did the Ndebele really come from ??
South Africa
@@rannydewah8549 that was then....before indipendance.Now it's after indipendance
vukazi, so everything is valid because it happened after independence, is that so, read very well what Dehwa wrote , its sad indeed
The Ndebele came from South Africa wuth Mzilikazi ,these shona were not there by that time
@NA Phiri shonas must leave south africa with immediate effect ok
We are tired of shona's .everywhere its shona y can't work in Mashonaland and leave us alone .fire them Mthwakaz .
Yes kumele sibasuse la....kathesi khangela sebebuye le Cholera yabo la....AmAshona ayaloya
Abahambe
Actually its yourself to blame, keep this mentality burning and one of the years you will regret. Let's live in harmony.
Kkkk go back KZN wena Zulus
Some of the comments are just hateful,we are married to ndebeles and shonas,what's the problem?My problem is that there is a lot of hypocrisy going on.Chamisa is shona but Ndebeles like him,why?
Viva Bulawayo viva
An eye for an eye makes the world blind
Am a shona
But to be honest
We should not fight
We should resolve our issue in a right way
Fighting will always not an answer
Division will lead to an weak county
It doesn't matter who is in charge
For me i will need to see a president of zim from ndebele
And see what they can do to change our country.
The way the byo city did was wrong but we should not criticis them
We should unite and stand together.
This whole incident is from gukurahundi and miss use of gvt money by shona patty zanu pf.
Zanu pf is taking back the whole country.
Bulawayo need to see changes in their own power and theirs own ndebele speeakers
Zanu pf is to be blamed for all this division.
Failing to compansate gukurahundi incident
Failling bring better life of its citizens
Failing to control inflammation
Failing to develop the nationa
Blaming sanctions while they are looting diamonds and gold
Tribalism 🛠️😐
The worlds worse enemy
Whose Mumsy is that one? I feel sorry for the children and their children when you have magogo who preaches venom. What is language after all we are all human . Dont be silly magogo. You are very very evil , you want to start a tribal war ? I wish you can go back and grow up ambuya
yes with passion infact if u don’t know.Bulawayo has been a burning multicultural society since 1800s.14 of the 15 tribes in Bulawayo living happily excluding 1 tribe which stands on our way.The Shona.They are 1)power hungry and greedy 2.Gukurahundi.Now all this lecture abt tribalism was brought up by Mugabe and his shona followers from 1980 running up the show.More evidence no White Afrikaans (majority) nor White british have been attacked by a Ndebele since 1980.Now put the same stats on Ndebele vs Shona In Bulawayo Homeground the results are shocking.So what goes on in Cape Town is exactly the same here in byo .All the tribes than live in byo not Ndebele or shona hate the shona with passion because of the common ground we share and language similarities.
Collectively & Patriotically Referred to AS Zimbabweans being Residents of Our Great Zimbabwean Nation irregardless of Race or Creed.We Are all One PROUD PEOPLE...ZIMBABWEANS
This is a developmental issue so we want to be lead by the one who will here what we're saying and talk what we shall hear
Just because sm1 has a Shona surname, it doesn't mean they cannot communicate in Ndebele
Gogo said Pfeeeeeeee--- Ndebele must accept. Mayor. Being ndebele or shona its not a issue. But pple to be so collective.
If thy says bulayo is zimbabwe thy strt segregation wc wil
Put them ignored
Thumbs up Mthwakazi fight for rights
Yes. Let's just do a referendum and vote for "Mthwakazi" to be an independent country. And we'll see how it goes.
yes on marginalisation. But for the mayor, they voted for those candidates
Proudly ndebele. Bulawayo is for mandebele .finally we have a voice. Forward Mthwakazi
From Plumtree to mutate they is no place for ndebele
City of Harare's Town Clerk is Josephine Ncube a Ndebele and no Shonas complained. And Town Clerk is the highest non elective position. I've always been proud of byo but this is pathetic to say the least.
Ndebeles are tribalists and they think they are a superior tribe amongst other tribes in Zimbabwe. Sorry, you are foreigners just like the former colonialists.
Ncube is not necessarily Ndebele. In fact the town standards have fallen to the lowest standards since this councillor took over. It's deplorable, it's all about political clout.
You sound like white people in America when caught being racist. They would say I have black friends and neighbours. What your point?
We are wasting our time ngokuthethisana kuthukana but we all same if disaster come we will face us as Zimbabweans like now no jobs no money we must unit to remove zany pf
To remove zanu pf
WE DONT WANT TO REMOVE ZANU PF WHEN ZUNA PF WAS KILLING US NO1 WAS SAYING ANYTHING BUT TODAY WE WANT OUR LAND YOU TELL US WE NEED TO UNITY AND REMOVE ZANU PF IBINGAPHI IUNIT FORM 83 TO 87....ASIKHOHLWANGA AND ALISIQHEDANGA LIZABUYA KUPHELA
Its just a way of culture.
U will be shocked if u go to Bulawayo from Harare that people wouldn’t know that the term ‘Ndebele’ it’s a mixture of Zulu Sotho Venda and Xhosa.But the term Zimbabwe the country is associated with Shona.I have been to Harare a few times and l heard their views about what they think of Bulawayo.Almost 99.9 % shona speakers think that Bulawayo is 100% Ndebele which is not true.Even 90% Ndebele is not True.The fact is Ndebeles in Matebeleland as a whole make up 60% of the entire group.Xhosa people of Zimbabwe make up 35% of that matebeleland group and 5%Sotho Venda and Kalanga.All these 4 groups in Matebeleland learn Ndebele in School as mandatory with a paper 3 in which u choose between Zulu and Xhosa as well as Afrikaans.The Zimbabwe government classfied all these 5 groups to be Ndebele in Matebeleland due to the fact that there is no Sotho Xhosa and Venda exams just like shona and Ndebele.So the next generation will speak Ndebele but feel more comfortable in Xhosa or Sotho or Venda as second language or in most cases first then Ndebele second.Just to point out to people that The term Matebeleland shouldn’t be confused with everyone being Ndebele.Ndebeles are part of Matebeleland not that everyone in Matebeleland is Ndebele.
Viva MaNdebele viva ...asingeke sibuswe liShona Ko Bulawayo NEVER
You voted for the council duh?
Shonas are just killing our beloved city..
@Ozzy Mandias no its in kwa bulawayo zimbabwe ..we speak ndebele and zulu..there are xhosas too
Ozzie is right, in short he is saying you are foreigners here but if it were in KZN kumusha kwako ndiko kwawaitaura uchidaro. You are foreigners in Zimbabwe or colonialists. Simpuru.
We are one. Why this???!
Ngeskhathi besiqeda nge Gukurahundi babengazi ukuthi we are one?
Its hard to live with shona people.they are not bad people but we just don't get along..they have destroyed the country forced us out side the country.we don't like that.lathi sifuna ukuhlala emakhaya ethu siphile kamnandi.we don't share the same view that's why we must split.omunye lo munye ngakibo...
then its time you went back to south africa , where you get along with your others the zulus and so on ... trace your roots
@@leoricdabs3222 u really think Africans are different from one another? We have a lot more in common than u think. Remain small minded. That's on you boo
We are different wena.there's a big cultural difference btwn us and shona pipo.they don't mind migrating,being called names over seas and being chased away.we have dignity.we love home.the only reason why we leave is coz they have fucked up everything. Shona people live in the now.they are not eco friendly or conservative they jus want to be comfort able and forget abt the future.
People of Bulawayo voted and that was the outcome so why protesting
Yes we voted but out of 15 Ndebele councillors,does Chamisa mean non deserves the deputy mayor post?
Khupe's loyalists, it does not work
What you don't understand is that they have been oppressed for too long and the woman is just fed up.
It's obvious that they didn't vote for the man.
bulawyo must choose its ndebele speaking mayor..its so simple ...i dnt understand why smeone would want to be a mayor or a chief where he was not born
It all started in ZIPA (Zimbabwe Peoples Army) merging of Zipra & Zanla, that's where the shona declared themselves leaders & Ndebeles followers. Whenever the 2 movements united, a Shona must lead & a Ndebele must follow, very wrong principle & whenever a Shona must lead a Ndebele must die, we saw it in ZIPA, Ndebeles died, We saw it in 1981 under demobilisation & Intergration shonas led & pple had to die. This tribalism must stop
Can anyone enlighten me on what happened to the Shonas in Entumbane before Gukurahundi ? Why do some people avoid talking about that ???
Even the Shonaz before the arrival of the Pioneer column, the cattle, grain, strong man and beautiful Shona women. These so called Ndebeles, who think they are saints today . Time will never erase history instead it enriches it.
@@tabvakugonawapotera5079 Shut up bro you know nothing do your research than come speak your bullsh**
They were the spies and sell outs as well as protected species. That's how most Ndebeles were forced to speak Shona. Why don't you ask about all the other minority tribes as there were many. Where were you then? Your mindset is totally limited.
Amashona vele doesn't belong to zimbabwe they came from samewhere via Mozambique They must go back skhathele ngawo
No !! Thina amandebele kumele sibuyele eSouth Africa sihlale in peace
@@__.kinton mpumalanga to be precise because you do not belong to zulus
@@nonhlanhlanunsy9179 uyahlanya ngempela wena
anghlanyi amandebele e south africa ahlala empumalanga so why would you come to kwazulu duh@@luthandogcugcwa4892
@@nonhlanhlanunsy9179 it’s all Nguni languages
Ndebele people yu don't think why not protest for Ncube finance minister
Ncube is a finance Minister for Zimbabwe not particularly for shonaz
But I think we are one, as we in other countries working for our Families, we be equal to each other Africans or even Whites God made us the same. Thina sifuna imisebenzi back Zimbabwe please guys, whites must come back, ngoba now seniyalwa nodwa.
Mdidiii wakho
I feel u ndebeles go to mashland u will never find a ndebele mayor. Now even in the work sector pple frm mashland are being put where locals are supposed to benefit hence left deprived. We are one people but justice is not saved. This is the naked truth
Why protest for Ncube yena engowe Zimbabwe.Us we do it when it's for bulawayo kuphela
no ndebele in mashonaland if they remove the Mayor , they steal the land from our fathers it was called mabheadzeva not matopos they came from south Africa so they should shut up they killed our father's by mzilikazi when he come to Zimbabwe running away from tsaka that history.
U are stupid who wrote those history books.Havs u never been told how u commited Genocide before we got there.The shonas we’re the first before Ndebele to arrive in Zimbabwe.Areiving and being Indegenous are two different things.Tge reason y u are the majority in the country it’s through genocide for both Khoisan and Ndebele.The most interesting thing is that someone like u cannot walk freely in🇿🇦 nor Botswana 🇧🇼.Do you u know why?Bulawayo has kin and kith tribes whose family can be traced to both countries.Bulawayo houses 14/15 tribes there.Mashonaland only shona.To meet a Ndebele or any of the tribes is rare 1 in 100.So please don’t spread that nonsense pile of headaches from the propaganda sources u got from those Zanu pf shona books
isn't he a ZIMBABWEAN first the Shona. This is why certain areas of ZIMBABWE especially in Matebeleland will never develop this is why Binga is so backward because they want a Tonga name on everything and do not open up for other internal tribes
.this is neo colonialism at work .if it was a white man they could not have protested.
your shona race is pathetic . murderers
The problem we have in Africa not in Zimbabwe only there many countries faces What we call tribalism but to hate a black people its lack of knowledge
Now mnangagwa is showing his true colours he wants people to fight
If the Shona guy was living in Bulawayo all along i don't see why not. Anyways Ndebeles are ruling the country right now, Commander of the Defence Forces is Ndebele, Air Force Marshall is a Ndebele, Minister of Finance is Ndebele, Minister of Foreign Affairs is Ndebele. These guys can take over Zimbabwe any day they choose.
True my brother .You are saying the truth .Shame for those who are protesting sis
@@abbiegailnhlabathi2177 Can we though? If we did it would be an uproar.
You're a a typical oppressive mind @shonaboy. In fact the Mayor is not from Bulawayo and is new to the area, moved there to secure seat for the opposition. Very typical minute thinking ruining everything. Hence your tribal specific comment. This is what's wrong with the country. Each city councillor must be representative of the local population people who born and bred there and deeply connected to that city, not overnight nomads seeking political ground.
You are stupid in the head.Trye power is in the hands of the president.They will never be a Ndebele mayor in Harare and they should not be a shona mayor in Bulawayo case closed
Ummm nothing like that at all
This is painful and pathetic to every Zimbabwean to hear such a thing but why people still have this division in mind ndebele or shona the bottom line we are all Zimbabweans brothers and sisters Jesus christ
@Thokomagonya Ndlovu did you read what I said or you just reply hiting the bush
@@douglasshumba PHENDULA....
You don't understand. Some of us lived under discrimination. We were expected to know how to speak Shona to get ID, Passport etc and this is since 1980.
@@sqrd3536yet you are soo happy to live under colonial English. Shona is the national language of Zimbabwe. Ndebele is a minority language in Zimbabwe and predominantly a South African language. So if you want to be in the majority go to South Africa Africa where you won't be felt as much as you want to felt in Zimbabwe.
Why cant they protest for a White Mayor now
That's why Zimbabwe is going backwards cauz of a tribe called Shona people who are selfish.They lack knowledge and tholukuthi they want to lead areas they don't.Really,shona people leave us alone
Incoherent.... the BCC is full of opposition lawyers... and the lady said they were rigged into power....
They elected each other for mayor and deputy mayor... and "Shona" surnamed people got mayoral posts... There is no issue
It's painful being a Ndebele person in Zimbabwe.....amaShona want everything in Zimbabwe yet they can not handle everything.....give back Matabele people their power .. address the #Gukurahundi
Ah, the Ndebele is being ruled by another tribe, I can see where this is going, this is Africa after all.
Dont mind those tribalists
Khupe ndiye nyoka iyoyo yakonzeresa but mukambotarira here KU Harare never complained about Ndebele instead they voted for debele in Harare because they understand ukuti kusiyana kwerurimi hakuna basa fungaiwo
Big up Bajila thumbs down to the toothless mother what a sham
It's truly funny when Morgan died ,the party split ,cause the top post was going to a Ndebele, (khupe) no one said a thing ,k,that not tribal ism ,but when people of BYO protest ,its tribalism
They are all Tribalist
The irony, is that this is a measure of xenophobia. Perhaps we should simply say no shonas should run for council seats in Bulawayo? and no ndebeles should run for council seats in Harare? Maybe this why Smith said it's disaster for Rhodesia.if he was Tonga was it going to be ok? What about a white guy ? Or Venda? We are failing look at the black record , genocide_ gukurahundi , financial ruin, cholera, xenophobia with glorified explanations, a failed state. Misplaced activism like this one, vision less leadership. Nxaaaaa
Yes no Shona running for a seat in Bulawayo....We too Ndebele will not do the same in Harare
U are crazy Bulawayo does not have a problem with any tribe to be the mayor of Zimbabwe except for shona.Shona that’s is so personal.Cultural identity is real.An Englishman cannot be prime minister of Scotland.No chance but a Scottish man can be the prime minister of the whole country.A xhosa man cannot be a councillor in Kwa Zulu Natal even if they share the same cultural boarders.Shonas in Harare Wont be blamed if they woke up saying they want a Shona councillor.It’s allowed to do so.Shonas are well known for being tribalist and pier hungry thirsty savages since 1980.The Ndebele of of them 15 tribes can place a shona 6 feet under.
OK Nbebele pple. Technically Bulawayo s not yours you belong in SA where Shaka chased your ancestors away saying they aren't human . you should be fighting for SA citizenships if you really understand history. Anyway, in other countries people are protesting in a bid to make economic change while someone is protesting against race? Small thinking, good luck
You people say different things...this minute you talk about chasing us to back to S.A....next minute you talk of unity cauz you believe that Ndebele people can develop the nation so which is which
Zoli T what an imbibe you are!
@@vukanikhuzwayo7879 Go back to SA
We are not humans.you must have your history twisted.is that the history you learn in mashonaland.we left on our own we didn't get chased away.why unje wena shona lothuvi
Zoli T You Sir are an idiot.
Highlanders FC fan 😄
Only people coming from outside moving into these positions whilst the locals are denied. In fact the guy has let this City down the town looks like a dumpsite. He is a show off and hasn't done nothing significant for BYO. Since 1980 the locals sidelined for jobs and opportunities, it's about time! We don't mind a BYO bred boy who actually cares to look after it not someone who doesn't care and from outside, no interest in knowing the people but calling himself a 'city father'. He wasn't voted in definitely.
Ndebele people yu must complain about ZANU PF rigging election not about shona people because Ndebele Shona we are suffering because of ZANU PF
But the truth I know we all Zimbabwen let's give other chances
This is Tribalism
So, let me get this, the Ndebeles in KwaBulawayo voted for Shona councilors who will inturn vote (as councilors) for a mayor of their choice as mandated by the KwaBulawayo voters! Khupe was begging the KwaBulawayo people to swallow the tribal hook and you refused flatley, knowing fully well that it was a poisoned chalice! in mathematics 2 + 2 = 4! always!! If you vote for a Shona councilor, chances are he/she is gonna vote for a Shona Mayor! LIVE WITH IT!! You are not alone! The whole of Zimbabwe have been forced to live with a 75 year old as our president!! WE CERTAINLY DON'T LIKE IT, BUT WHAT CAN WE DO??
Do your staff Patricia
Are u telling me that thy is no ndebele person in bulawayo who is fit to be a moyor,just asking
Sure....
When you are in ROME,let the ROMANS lead ROME,when you are in matebelend,let the NDEBELEs lead MATEBELELAND!!!
Lizwile maShona,bazukulu baka mbuya nehanda
Lets forgive that old woman. She is 100% tribalistic
I don't think any of your bloodline were brutalized by the Korean Trained 5th Brigade. With that in mind, hold your peace.
She is not a tribalist cauz she is on her land
I think provincial names should also b changed t more neutral names... ths Mashonaland /Matebeleland/Manicaland should change!!...
But still what remains is that the province will remain for a particular tribe....
U're mad! Change Mashonaland but Matabeleland will remain as it is bcoz its the land of our forefathers who fought against Colonialism & also freed this country frm Colonialism too.
@@ndikxxndimande5542 forefathers who came from KZN every1 knws that and sold the country to colonialist hehe lets just leave the past behind coz . . . And that tribal stronghold is being neutralised bit by bit as u can already c . . . 😄
Hayi ma ndebele makuda kuita sei apa!
Quite spokesperson that one is. Wow.
Ah wagwaan with dem ndebele people we are one Zimbabwe
nop we are mthwakazi and we will fight for our freedom lizabuya kuphela ilizwe labokhokho be2
Chamisa achaendepi
K
The big question is who said bulawayo is for ndebele people and secondly bulawayo belongs to Zimbabweans not ndebele people only thats a great error thirdly to those ndebele people calling and threatening war aganist shona people and talking about creating your own republic in zimbabwe you should take your time and sit down study the past and facts about shona people you will realize that shona people dont hate ndebeles they just hate your tribal mentality and your negetive attitude thats all besides that they are intermarriages and its working perfectly. personally i have great respect for the late joshua nkomo he never insulted or hated anyone because his shona he was a real Zimbabwean if you ask me. lastly to those extremist ndebeles who think and believe in hatred against shona people and wants to go to war against them i want you to sit down and do your math if you can see that they is any chance that you can possibly win that war then when you are truly convinced that you will win then you can as well start the war asap ? but if not then its time to change for better ..........................
@@ntobekomangena2958if it's abt corruption they is a clear good example of your uncle Jonathan moyo everyone knows his corruption case as for loudness I dont think it's an issue to talk about then lastly hygiene if u really believe that if someone is a Ndebele they are automatically hygienic and if they are shona its the opposite case then it's time to grow up and think like a real adult.........
@@ntobekomangena2958 looking at this lady can we really say shes a hygienic person.........kkkkkkkkkk
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@@ntobekomangena2958 we are the best my dear we smell very good we are intelligent smart and a beautiful tribe of africa very proud indeed and unfortunately what you think doesn't count or matter......kkkkkkk
@@ntobekomangena2958 yes we have our issues but the moment you u start a war with us then u will find yourself fighting against one people and the outcome you have a record of it you knw it ..........
@@judah7o7 its what the world thinks, not me.
Kwa bulawayo we need a mayor from the Ndebele tonga suthu nambia tonga xhosa kalanga vendah lobu ubumbulu obufuna ukwenziwa ngamaswina futseki
Bayasidelela
Lol i understand them saying zimbabwe belong to zimbabweans and now dont be to quick to judge if it was South Africa thel be saying nywe nywe making noise Zenophobia kwaaaa good
I agree with you and when burning them don't have mercy these idiots are so tribal is as if there's something special about their doomed Zimbabwe
Handisati ndamboona munhu ari ugly sa Mbuya avo
Iwe ka 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 worse kana vakatsamwa
Shuwa kunge mombe chaiyo apa varikutaura zvakashata
amahole so,,,
I don't understand what's the problem of being a shona Mayor .You ndebeles wake up yessses .This position meant to be for him .Be educated ndebeles why are you protesting for .By therefore the one you want him or her to be a Mayor he will forgot you all lizoba lilamba ezindlini zenu .Lilele too much .What ever will it be .
Gukurahundi must come back
kkkkkkkkk
Idiot
All those who are saying kukurawundi must come back ...sons ot the devil
Gukuraundi ngu mdidi kanyoko
@@jamesnc906 kasi vako havana
This tribal thing should stop.
It can stop when each tribe works on its land only!
Mashonaland to Matabeleland migration/ influx must stop 1st
Zvozodiiko munongotongwa chete muchida musingade 😂
T Cha tshona lothuvi.corrupt bastards, that's why poverty is so rife in matshonaland.you must all go hang. take that old fart mgabe with u
T cha .sizobuswa ngumdidi nganyoko owafa edunusile ekhale ilangaa shouting ED msunu wenjaaa lamashona akini wonkee
Sethu Mabhena kkkkkkk shame kubuhlungu hanti
@@tcha6010 no darling akubuhlungu,but disappointing..hw can anyone for that matter thinks gukurawundi was some kind of a joke
@@Mzwamadoda2022 ndisaka usina kuenda kuchikoro yu failed to wrote shona shame mandebere tichingotonga
HOW CAN YOU FIND A TEACHER OR BEING THE HEADMASTER OF A school in NKAYI GWANDA AND PLUMTREE THATS NOT FAIR AT ALL AM A SHONA BUT TRUELY THATS RUBISH
Mr Cutebird brillient
Wow man. Can you imagine how oppressive is that...?
Trabalism at it's best.....forgetting how they came into our country.
Your ancestors are from Malawi and Burundi. Know your history. There is only one known indigenous people in ZW called the Lozwi.
aaaaa mina zwiiii bakithi,ukukhuluma kuyahlupha sizothini begcwele indawo yonke nje besenza izilima bethu yonke indawo kubusa bona,bayasihleka bathi asifundanga hmmm soke sibone ukuthi kuyophetha ngani . Saze samkhumbula uMqabuko bakithi
All ndebele are not Zimbabweans
son of a bitch
Who told you that ? We don't talk about fabricated history. Don't be a fool
Calvin Shana true
Mthwakazi was an independent state , and mashonaland as well , you have stolen our land because you thives
Zimbabwe only existed after 1980 and it incorporates every tribe between Zambezi and Limpopo. I am Shona and I think all Nippon Shona people have been marginalised for too long. Devolution is the best way to deal with this
Why should this be triba.The Deputy Mayor was elected.There are problems with service delivery in Harare too!Please let issues be issues but to think its constitutional to say you don't want a Shona official in Bulawayo is taking it too far and myopical.Shonas are Zimbabwean too!This cannot be tolerated!Suppose Mzilikazi,Gundwane raids,rape,forced labour,etc never happened.Worse still the ignoramus Ndebele king Lobengula sold of Shona country!You don't think we have feelings too!!!Please don't stir a hornet's nest!You must be drunk gogo!!!
We don't want a shona official cauz you do the same to us in your land....
As for me I think there must be no Shona in Bulawayo as well we are not there in Harare so siyekeni sodwa alibizwanga asilifuni ngoba lingasifuni lani lifuna ukuze libulawe yini ngenhliziyo yami kwamele lishiswe zinja
Plenty of ndebele in Harare and all over Zimbabwe. Married to shona and some to ndebele. You should travel around Zimbabwe you may be disappointed to see so many people from different regions getting along. And that Dube guy next door his Mother is Shona. Oops if truth be told plenty of shona I your family too so sit down and be quite.
Vele tell them...we didn't ask them ukuthi basuke eHarare bazo hlala LAPHA.....kababuyele eMbare Lathi siziphilele eMakokoba
My man just back KZN
If only some people would understand that the area under contention waz once called Guruuswa, if only some people would know that they are not more than 200 yrs old in zim, if only some people fully know the origin and meaning of zimbabwe, if only some people accept that they constitute 10% of zim population , and lastly if some people know that we fought a systen that was given exclusive rights to do what they deem necessary just because of sugar then i dont think there was going to be any issue here.
If only people knew that you are a fool. MaShonaland was colonized before Matabeleland & when the whites waged the war against the Ndebeles they were assisted to complete the colonization of the country by your ancestors.
That mama is tribalist shame
buts its a insult
Malema says we are one only the colonies divided us
oh boy. if you vote for a Shona councillor, he could be your next mayor. That's democracy
Shem no digniti
tribalist hogwash vachajaira havo theree is only one zimbabwe
Akuna one Zimbabwe
The Shona can be really racist towards the Matabele so this, plus the terrible things the Pro-Shona Mugabe government has done to them, explains why the Matabele feel so strongly about this.
Magareth Masvanhise : Meh, same difference.
Do u know what racist means
@@arkuis pick up a book or a dictionary. It's not the same thing
Mugabe made his decisions.Check Nkomo saying it was not tribal but political!Please this wont solve anything!
sammy bear All I am hearing is people trying not to talk about Shona discrimination towards Matabeles by instead having a debate about the definition of racism.