How To Quarantine New Fish? How to treat new fish?
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- How to Quarantine New Fish? So you bought some new fish and you want to know how to Quarantine them? Follow along as I go step by step in my quarantine process. I copied the How to quarantine fish aquarium co op method from a few years ago.
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The constant criticism is what I think drives many from the hobby. I don't shop at my LFS because of how they treated me when I first started. I love that you describe in good detail what works for YOU. You stress that and let people make up their minds. I've never quarantined because I didn't have this knowledge till after I stocked. I've never had an issue (luckily) but I trust you and Cory and if I got a do over or eventually start my other tank, I will be doing the three prong approach. Thanks Michael!
That sucks about your LFS! And I think you are right, people don't research and then stuff happens and instead of helping, people belittle. That is not good!
I'm still new to this hobby and am guilty of this. I can say that I've been lucky so far, but wan to learn the correct procedure for the safety my fishes, for future new fishes. Thanks for the tip.
Thanks for watching
A-ha!! Finally found it!! Geez, I must has missed this video a zillion times just trying to find it lol! Saved it! 😁😁 Thank you!
Let me know if you have questions
Thanks for sharing your experience. I didn't see Cory's tip on this, so I'm glad I saw your video.
Thanks! Glad you liked it.
Liked the video right after the “see what I did there? General Cure”. Made me laugh, subscribing!
Lol...thanks! And welcome to the channel!
I just became your new sub. I usually never sub to anyone unless their vids are great and I mean real great. Thanks for the time you take to tell people what to do and guide them through problems.
Thanks and welcome!
I am so glad I quarantine. Didn't have a single fish get sick... until a little over last week
Good to hear
Concerning the medicines, It's probably two years and I've heard professionals talk about medicine dating under the table and the fact that the greater majority of them will last one and even two years over the expiration. It's a Minefield but the chances are much greater than we think.
I love watching your videos.
Peez.
Thanks for watching.
Awesome video Michael! I need to set up a quarantine tank but unfortunately, I can’t find any of those meds here in singapore :( I think I’ll be able find another way though
Email me, maybe I can send them to you.
I just discovered your channel and I absolutely love it already
Thanks! Welcome!
Another great vid! :-) We use the same meds for quarantine and we learned it from Cory. Hope you're having a great weekend!
Thanks! Yeah he and I talked about it before that video was released, if it works for him, why not try it!
Yep, agree completely. It's been working for us so far. I like it!
The end of the video made my the night tho lol.. you just got another follower... great work btw
Thank you and welcome!
That's what I get for commenting while I'm watching... Thank you for the info about fenbendazole.
LOL...no worries, I do it ALL THE TIME!
An opinion is a bit like genitals. Everyone has one, and its fine to be proud of it. But if you start shoving it up in my face, we’ll have a problem!
LOL...unless she is hot.....
I always quarantine my fish with API General Cure and Tetra Lifeguard, I keep Levamisole on the side too just in case . I mix both meds and I haven't had any issues . Thanks for another grat video man.
Nice! Never heard of Tetra Lifeguard....I'll have to check it out.
Hi Michael, thanks for that, very informative. You can’t get Erythromycin in the UK, or any antibiotic without a vets say so, however, I will tell you many many years ago, when I was Puffer-Girl, rather than Puffer-Lady, I worked with a vet. This vet told me that antibiotics in powder form stay stable for many years, and the use by date is for money-making and covering-ass purposes only. At that time I had some Aeromycin powder, which you can’t get now. I used it for over ten years and it was remained effective, and I was treating infected wounds on working Terriers. So think about keeping your out of date stuff a little longer maybe. That’s just my opinion, which I have, as well as a nose. Lol.
That’s great information! Thanks!
Deanne Sherriff I know the struggle, living in Australia it's even harder. I've had to sneak meds in from the UK and the States unfortunately.
Awesome video Michael!
Same method i use. Works perfect. API products are getting harder to find in Canada though. Recently had to use seachem metro and prazi pro combo until i found more general cure.
That's what I heard from Flynn.....That is not good for fish keepers.
Everyone has noses.that great alternative, to the old saying 😂😂😂
Lol
Man I added this to my fish care Library. Good video.
Wow! How many videos do you have in your library?
@@MichaelsFishRoom . Lots. I've only been doing this about eight or nine months. I didn't want to take any chances with the money I invested so I went straight to the sources. That's you guys who breed. Bypassing all the nice videos with pretty pink and blue plants, I wanted to know what habitat they actually live in and reproduce it. Anyway, your videos are some of my favorites. Thanks for the information, the time you put into it and your attitude.
Good luck! Let me know if you have any questions.
@@MichaelsFishRoom . Thanks. I will have questions.
Great info Michael, another well done video!!!
Thanks NY! Glad you liked it!
My LFS sells fenbendazole powder and I mix that into Repashy for new mollies. If I don't know the source of mollies, I pretty much always think they have internal parasites general cure won't treat. I've lost too many to "wasting disease" or camallanus. (haven't had this problem with swordtails or platys, and I don't keep guppies) The flakes are great if you don't have the powder or Repashy, though.
E.M. Erythromycin will also treat things like columnaris. It's a true antibiotic. Melafix is more of a neosporin type thing.
Melafix is just tea oil. Lol
Yup. Tea tree oil. I'll put a drop in when I see a small scrape on a fish or when someone rips a tail on something. It's an okay preventative. Not so good at actually treating anything.
Hi Michael! Love your ‘ramblings’. Just to clarify, you med all 3 at the same time? I’m pretty sure the answer is yes, but just wanted to check. Thanks so much for sharing your hobby with us. 😊
Yup! All thee at the same time. Thanks for watching!
Really informative, Michael. I am a fan of meds right off the bat. Especially with closed ecosystems like aquariums, one shouldn’t take risks. The degradation of meds that are past expiration dates can be minimized by good storage technique. Cheers!
Thanks!
“Noses everyone has noses” lol
LOL
Great video, I as well use Cory's method and I also use the every thing aquatics anti parasite food. Meds teamed up the food saved my Chili Endlers.
Nice! Glad they made it!
Cory’s Trio, plus ich-x, plus Rx treated food, plus garlic infused food. 1-3 weeks quarantine. Yep. That’s the near bulletproof method. 🐠. I keep my quarantine tank always active with spare/non-targeted color guppies/fish that I give to the LFS. They have a dedicated tank for adoption with the SKU that give 50% to a local animal shelter & local fish club.
Nice!
Michael's Fish Room , I was just recommended your channel and store for various blue guppies. Any Lazuli Blue coming soon? Also.... I’ve been looking for Female blue star endlers for ages. I have 9 males. No females. Thoughts?
Lower the temp and you may get more females if you have fry.
I have some blue guppies on my website. The jarawee are a few months away, plus there is a waiting list.... sorry!
Another great Video! I love this trio!
Thanks MFA!
Hey Michael! I impulse purchased a dwarf frog with a couple guppies yesterday. They are in my quarantined tank. I want to use this method, but will it hurt the frog? It's worked great in the past (when it was just guppies) so thank you for posting all your awesome videos!
It should be ok, but I have never done it with an ADF.
You can also do a Hydroplex dip as well before the 3 prong approach.
For what?
Michael's Fish Room Quarantine
oh and I forgot my daughter and love all your videos👍
Thanks!
Thank you!
Welcome!
Good vid Mike and thank you.
Thanks and you're welcome!
Great video as always!
Thanks JaJa
I came to your video just to use your affiliate links for amazon haha. Your guppies are awesome and ive had quite a couple guppies die few days after purchasing them from Petsmart but now i understand that they all have parasites that we have to take care of... Thanks for the awesome content!
Thanks for using the links!
Great video and advice.
I don't understand why some people are so dogmatic...No small wonder why this country is so divided on so many issues.
Lol...for sure!
Question, what if the new fish is wild caught HERE in the U.S. say, Bluegill? I have a 20 gallon tank with a 1 year old Bluegill plus an algae eater and plan to use a 10 gallon for a quarantine tank for new fish mates for my Bluegill (Bob) . I don't need massive amounts of medicine just some thing small, something that does it all. Suggestions?
What are you asking?
@@MichaelsFishRoom I'm wondering what medication should I use in my quarantine tank for wild caught American fish and is there an all in one medication that I could use?
I am not sure about wild caught. There would not be an “all in one” but you may want not to QT and just observe and treat for symptoms.
I never quarantined my fish but I really should do it...
Nah....
@@MichaelsFishRoom I had an outbreak about 6 years back in a 90-gallon tank. I added 2 beautiful angle fish, and in no time I had half my tank dead, and the other half followed. I tried medication but I was too late and too inexperienced at the time and still so, The angle fish was some of the last to go, even killed off my electric blue Lobsters. Anyway long story short, I got out of the hobby then, sold off my tanks even. Not too long ago my wife was given a 20 Gallon tank and Well the hobby kicked back in. I added a 40 gal hex tank, and 55 gal bowfront tank, and not a 10 gal quarantine tank, and my son added got into the hobby with me and had a couple tanks in his room. Well after cycling everyone and getting them all going, Adding fish I will tell you I wish I did the treatment plan for the incoming fish I added. I think I have things under control now, and I will be using something close to your method for any new fish in the future. Like you said a mass kill off can really ruin the hobby for you. Thanks for putting this video up. Just reinforces my Treat before adding thought!
As for dewormer....KUSURI DEWORMER, has worked for my discus and GBR in the past.
Nice
What about magnisium sulphate for internal parasite
What about it?
@@MichaelsFishRoom do it work for internal parasite
I'm glad to hear it differently from different people. The same thing that is. That way I may be able to see something I didn't see the first second or third time.
I followed you guys Direction about giving Guppies places to hide from each other and Fry to hide from parents. That has earned me store credits. Kudos to you guys. You and Corey I mean.
PS.
Please consider feeding the piss out of your tub Guppies. In order that they be well fed and too sluggish to worry about the fry. Equals More Fry, Maybe.
I enjoy the content a lot. Thanks.
Peez.
Thanks for the advice!
@@MichaelsFishRoom . I apologize. I did not edit That. It was supposed to say, please consider feeding the piss out of the tub Guppies so they won't go after the fry as much. I would so much love to see what you would pull from fifty or a hundred gallon tubs at the end of the summer.
I feel the same way about unsolicited advice so I apologize for that. I just don't know how to communicate things without just directly communicating them. At least it's in subject.
Peace
Lol...it’s all good.
Excellent information! ! Thank you
Thanks for watching!
🐛Great mini rant 🐉 I totally agree, especially about the forums
Your also right about the Eurethrurmiacin ( yeah i probably spelt it wrong ) it will last past the expiration date and keep its effectiveness for up to 4 months
Thanks!
I don’t know how fish medication works but human medication the expiration date is just the 100% potency date like it’s going to be the strongest potency until that expiration date and then afterwards it will still work but the potency won’t be as strong
It is exactly the same.
So don't feed them for a week right, after 7 days do water change and I can put plants in quaratine tank ?
Thank you
I feed them if they eat.
You crack me up... been watching your videos... back into fish tanks after a long layoff and love the videos... thank you very much 👊
PS first time I've seen you with the beard😜honestly it was a little scary especially when you made your observed your fish look. I think it would look much better when it turns completely gray and you would look like a happy Santa/ Bad Santa on your rant videos
🤣🤣🤣 Keep up the good work... Mike G, AKA Guppy Nerd
Lol...thanks. But I’ve had the beard for a while. How long were you away for?
Started as a 9 year-old in the mid-70s that found a little 10 gallon tank. Poor poor fish😢Then I had my own kids and we ccrossbred guppieswhen they were little in mid 90s. Then I build them a fish pond and from that point on I built fish ponds for friends and part time extra work really just because I love it. Getting old now and don't feel like moving the stone around anymore. (I forgot how heavy that gallon buckets were. LOL
So now I've got the bug again and started 3tanks and a hospital tank. And I have three trios of show quality guppies from Chris at the B train yeah you can say I've got the bug again. LOL thanks again I love your videos and when it warms up I want to get some juvenile Pleco from you. Do you ever raise in the L333 King Tiger plecos? I have a snowball but I love the black and white tiger stripes all that particular strand...
Ps i'm going to order a T-shirt tomorrow😊 how can I resist it has my name on it😜
Had a L333, but lost because I was stupid. I will be doing more plecos this year and may try the l333.
I may one day do a pond......
Lol...plus it’s cool! 😎
you made me fall in love with guppies bought 2 starter tank 10gal I only want to buy guppies I will buy some of yours to start oh and 1 5gal for quarantine and assortment of small plants
Awesome! Check out my website www.michaelsfishroom.com
😫 1 tank was cracked its on its way back delays😳
thanks Michael 🙋👍✔
My plesure!
@@MichaelsFishRoom Happy 2🥳21
Would you recommend quarantining live bearer babies, when they get to right size, before going into main tank?
I am not sure I understand the question.
Thank you! I only had one question. Do you do this same process for bottom feeders? I wanted to gather snails that are in a lake near my home for my fresh water tank. They are small black pointed shell snails, and I'm not sure if I should quarantine them like this or if a different method should be made.
I would ALWAYS QT something you got from the wild.
Great help
For what?
Got the anti parasite duo from select aquatic and after the first treatment my guppies were pooping out worms
Nice! Dena has some good stuff!
Awesome pitch, just wht happens at my place.needed a refresher lol.
cool
Thank you!
You're welcome!
@@MichaelsFishRoom 😆 So funny to hear from you! Got an order of fish coming from Indonesia. You know they need to be "quarantined". Yesterday I put in an order in to Aquarium Co-Op ~ purchasing the products you suggested. (I've learned a lot from watching your videos!) But, it was so funny that after 2 months you answer my comment this morning! Not only are you handsome ~ you must be physic too! 😉
Great video! I have a question though, can I quarantine fish in their permanent home in an aquascaped tank that they would live their life out in?
Yup, I do it all the time!
Michael's Fish Room thank you!
No problem!
super helpful
Glad it helped
Hello! Thank you for the great video! Can these treatments be done while the water has aquarium salt in it?
Yup
@@MichaelsFishRoom Thank you! Much love!
Hi michael.nice video and nice fish room
I have a question man
I have a tank with about 120 betta , how can i keep them healthy i won't my fishes get sick
I want them always healthy
any idea do you have ?:)
Clean water
So which link is for the medicated flake food?
Ugh! I’ll add when I get home! fishfreaksplus.com/product/fenbendazole-flakes-1-5oz/
Mike, how long do you keep your new fish isolated? Recently I've seen a number of TH-camrs posting videos saying they wished they'd kept their new fish isolated beyond the initial treatment period because they ended up with mass die-off in a tank. In the past I always waited a week or two but I'm not sure if I've just been lucky... thanks for any thoughts!
Most times they go into there own tank anyway so i don’t have to worry. But I usually only wait 7-10 days
nice job..
Thanks!
I usually do a full treatment of api general cure with aquarium salt. And if no visible signs after a week and everyone is eating then plop into the display they go.
If it works for you then it is right! What kind of fish do you have?
Mainly African cichlids, Haps and Peacocks with some Mbuna in a 125 gallon. And have a 20 gallon quarantine tank
Arran Johnson cool
Michael's Fish Room thanks . All lake specific. Lake Malawi. Love your vids and knowledge keep them coming! Also watch Corey over at the co-op. I use his advice and have bought his prefilters. They are perfect 👌 definitely cut down canister maintenance.
Arran Johnson thanks for watching!
I live in the UK... What medicine would you suggest I should use?
I live in the US, so that is what I know.
Do you remove the filter media when you medicate them at first? If so, when do you put the filter media back in?
No, but I do not use carbon at all. You would only remove carbon as it would absorb the meds.
Can you use those first 3 treatments on tetras? How many days do you wait after 1st treatment to put them into the main tank? If fish are dying is that because of a disease or because of medication? Thanks for the help!
You can. 7. This is just for quarantine, if you have sick fish you will need to target meds for what is causing it. What is going on in your tank?
The Ich-X specifically says: "Do not use with other medications." So why are you doing it? Does what they're saying mean that one of the meds would be cancelled out?
Not sure....but it seems to work for me.
Inverts and snails?
No idea.
Hi Michael, great video :). Does this method have any effect on cycled media? Does it kill beneficial bacteria? Thanks.
Hiya! I haven't noticed that in my tanks ever. Some people say it does, but I think what is happening is the fish are sick and stressed already and would die anyway. Just my theory.
Cool, thanks.
@@MichaelsFishRoom I was afraid of this myself, and the furan-2 I used said it might impact the bb but after the treatment, my test levels are all still great.
George Starr yeah, I am asked this question a lot, and have never had an issue (knock on wood)
Do you do all three at the same time or what?
yup
Would this method or the products that cory sells in his Quarantine trio now be fine for Quarantine tank for L201 plecos and L046 plecos?
I am not sure since I have never done it, but It works with regular bristlenose.
When you put those meds into the Quarantine tank do you have a filter running or just aeration? Does meds affected the good bacteria in the filter media?
The filter is running and it has never effected my tanks or the cycle.
If you have carbon in your filter, you will have to remove it.
Hi Michael
DONNA!
You do have one of the better wearable logos of all fishkeepers. What about a picture of you with your "blooper face" and a catchy fishy by-line on a t-shirt. That would stop people in their tracks!
Only because of my face! LOL
On the Aquarium Co-op page is also says you can use salt if meds aren’t available. That works for me since I don’t really want to pay for medicine.
Salt sometimes works and sometimes it doesn’t. But i mean that’s my consequence.
I would definitely follow your method if I wanted to pay for meds.
I use salt too sometimes.
Always ALWAYS quarantine!!! I made the mistake of buying a fish I thought was healthy because it was a ranchu born with one eye and i felt sorry for it. It showed no symptoms, so i added to my tank. Turns out, i had unknowingly just introduced hemorrhagic septicaemia to my tank. Two of my goldies died even though i caught it on day 3 of symptoms. Never making that mistake again.
We all learn that unfortunately.
Great video but I have a question! What is the downside to treating your display tank with the med trio every time you add fish? I only have one large tank... so should I set up a separate quarantine tank or just dose the main tank each time?
Cost....typically your hospital or QT tank is much smaller, so you use less meds. In addition, some meds can be harmful to plants or inverts.
Also think about it like this, do u think it would be a good idea to take antibiotics when ur not sick?
if u did that several times then actually needed the antibiotics when ur sick there's a good chance they wouldn't work as well.
Plus they reduce u or ur fish immune system which is never good, I would personally recommend a QT tank over medicating ur tank every time.
Good point!
Is it OK if I only used the API for quarantine? Thanks I love how info packed these vids are.
API?
Michael's Fish Room the API general cure. can I just use that for quarantine?
And nothing else? You can but that is like going into a fight with only one arm. In other words GC only works on some inside stuff, not everything......it is not that "general" LOL
Thank you. I will get the other quarantine meds as soon as possible. One of my new born molly fry is flashing against the plants. Should I be concerned?
Maybe...need more info
Are these meds safe for snails and plecos?
Yup
When the glass belly guppys start to breed will you be selling them
Thanks is the plan!
What is your take on API Furan-2 ? I had an outbreak for death in my 55 gal tank and just finished a treatment of it. and plan on running any new fish I get through a cycle of it before they get added into the main tank. and hoplefully my main tank is healed now. Right now the only thing in it is about 10 Mollies, and they seem to be going strong.
I have just started using it in my QT procedure. So far so good.
So 3 medication at the same time in one week?
Yes
Good advice , I but late to me I lost my 3 guppies red worms csllamnus. I could not find fenbenfazol flakes in everything acuatics......they may not longer produce it. Any other advice on where to find similar flakes? Many thanks!!
They’re the anti parasite quad flake. Also email Dena, she will tell you if they have them!
@@MichaelsFishRoom many thanks ...I already email them!!
Good
I have some kubotai rasbora and panda corydoras coming from aquatic arts. The kubotai Rasbora are extremely small only a 1/4 to 1/2 inch at shipping since they only reach 3/4 of an inch at adult size. This will be my first time medicating a fish that small and I was just wondering if you think I should use the full dose of ich x or if half a dose would be better since they're so small?
I always use the full dose.
I got the fenbendazole fish food and they won’t touch it haha
Starve them for 2 days.
Any specific temp for meds ?
Nope
So, if I plan on making a divided tank for Betta Fish and I already have a betta and want to put him in there should I do this? I did not do that when I got him, but he seems and acts fine. I’ve had him for a little over a week.
I would
Do you apply the meds as soon as you put the fish in the quarantine tank? Do you apply one treatment per medication?
All at once and yes, usually when I first put them in.
Good video. Though I still don't understand the logic of using erythromycin, which only treats gram-positive bacteria and the vast majority of bacterial, fish diseases are gram-negative. Isn't it better to treat for common bacterial diseases during quarantine rather than rare ones? Neomycin, which you mentioned, is listed as treating both gram-positive and gram-negative bacteria.
I don’t even know what that is, how can I mention it? Lol
Sorry, neomycin has the same ingredients as neosporin, which is the one you mentioned. SeaChem sells it as NeoPlex. It's a more general antibiotic than erythromycin.
LOL...oh! I am not that smart to know that!
When u treat with the 3 meds do u treat all 3 at once?
Yup
Do you ship fish to UK ? a longshot I know but had to ask as the guppys are stunning
Thanks Tyler. I don’t, sorry.
@@MichaelsFishRoom no problem thanks anyway bud I'll just have to enjoy them on hear 😁
Lol
You are right about everyone having an opinion but there is one thing you are doing that is not suggested, you aren't giving the full dose. This can cause and bacteria/virus/parasite that is not 100% killed off to build antibodies and resist the medication in the future. That's why I wouldn't medicate unless I know for sure the fish are ill or make sure to medicate fully. Thanks for the video.
And that is your choice. I choose to do it my way.
Quarantine them with Aquarium salt for 3 days before I add them with other fish and hope for the best.
If it works for you, it is right for you.
I got my goldfish not too long about 10 hours tops now. She looks really stress. She’s swimming on the bottom and she’s moving her mouth fast. How can I help my fish. How do I quarantine her? What do I put in my quarantine tank?
This really is not the best place to ask for help like this. What are the water parameters?
Hey Michael, I will be getting female bettas in a few weeks from two different sources (some shipped internationally and some from a local breeder). I was planning on letting these girls swim in methylene blue bath in conjunction with a bit of aquarium salt. Do you think this will be good enough?
I have no idea as I don't use either for QT.
I just used epsom salt 500ppm in the tank. after dipping my new cichlids in methylene blue? What can you say about it? Thank you...
Nothing....I’ve never done it. But if it works for you it’s good.
Will Terta lifeguard 1-5 be a good substitute because I already it so I want to know about it.
I have no idea what that is.
It is medicine for fish with diseases and fungal from the popular brand Terta
So you recommend that flake for all parasites on fish or only treats Internal
Yup....it is good stuff.
Michael's Fish Room Nice have you used there anti parasite quad flakes or Erythromycin Antibiotic Flake ?
@@leo2o915 I have, all good stuff.
Expiration date means the medicine isn’t 100% as strong. The half life in some of the compounds might of come up so then it should mean you need to dose 110% for the same dose or whatever it is etc.
That’s interesting🤔🤔🤔🤔
do you mix ich-x and general cure at the same time? what I do is ich-x one week then move to another tank then general cure the next week. then ovbserve the fish for 2 wee4ks after that.
I mix all three at the same time.
Does a quarantine tank have to be cycled? Can I just fill up a 3 gallon tank, treat it, and let the fish hang out in there for a week? Maybe do a water change every couple of days? I'm thinking it would be hard to keep a cycled quarantine tank ready to go for the once and a while that I might purchase a new fish.
Just keep an extra sponge filter cycled ready to go in one of your other tanks.
@@MichaelsFishRoom If I put a sponge in another tank, how long until it should have bacteria collected on it?
When do you feed the new fish? Directly or after quarantine?
During QT is what I do.