Who Was Responsible for Michael Jackson's Death | Dangers of Fame-Fueled Addiction
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- This video answers the question: Can I analyze the circumstances surrounding the death of Michael Jackson? This is the topic of the 2022 documentary “Who Really Killed Michael Jackson?”
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Michael Jackson was surrounded by people who did not have his best interests. It was always about the fame/money. May he RIP.
you got that right
That’s true but people like MJ will often dismiss those who try to intervene on their destructive behavior. Eventually everyone who said No is shut out and the ones who will assist in the addiction are left.
As an internal medicine healthcare worker, I simply cannot imagine a world where the patient demands and the doctor delivers. This is counterproductive and is exactly why Elvis, Prince and others are dead. I'm proud to work for physicians who have not, do not and would not (as far as I'm concerned) over-prescribe.
Thanks for this analysis, Dr Grande!
That's great to hear.
You're kidding.....with his money-money-money he had his choice of Dr. Feelgoods
I've literally asked for a prescription and gotten it just because I asked...😬
Money talks
When you have that kind of money, there's always someone to "help" you. If it wouldn't have been that doctor, it will have been someone else.
Dr. Grande, you hit the nail in the head when you said that MJ was a victim of his own wealth and power, so well said. In my opinion, the Physicians fell prey to their own greed. MJ was at a level of addiction in which he could no longer make reasonable decisions. The Physicians on the other hand, could certainly refrain from acting in an unethical manner, yet they chose not to.
Exceedingly insightful analysis! Thank you, Dr. Grande.❤️
Agree.
Rejane - I do think that Michael Jackson would have been a very hard person to deny. He was a superstar and very persuasive. Hearing him talk to people you could feel his charisma! You wanted to have him like you! I am glad I never had to be in that position!
@@bthomson You are so right! He was very charismatic and I can only imagine the dilemma of medical professionals dealing with him. However, the physicians knew exactly what they were doing, especially in regards to the use of propofol. That’s a serious medication.🤦🏻♀️
@@rejaneoliveira5019 I was astonished that an ordinary Doctor was able to obtain it, here in the UK it can only be obtained by an anesthetist and it can only be delivered to the hospital where they work. A GP having it sent to a home address no questions asked? SMH...
@@charlotte-mg9wj Yes, absolutely! I also don’t know how he was able to get it. It’s the same here in the US, this medication is mostly used in ICUs and for tests such as colonoscopies.
Michael also had a terrible back injury from a bridge that lifted in the air and came crashing down in 1999 in Munich. The scalp burns, back injuries, constant pressure on his body from dancing and lupus attacks this man lived in constant pain
I've never heard he has any underlying diseases I watches the trial. Maybe I missed that part
I greatly feel for Michael. It feels as if there was no one around him who genuinely loved him, cared for him, and wanted the best for him without having an ulterior motive. And it looks as if this was the case from the moment he was born until the moment he died. I think this was one of the reasons he was deeply unhappy and resorted to drugs in the first place. His whole existence was monetized by family, doctors, specialists...very sad.
I had to get a procedure done last February and I was put under using the same medicine MJ was using to sleep. The team caring for me said that no one should ever be on it without being closely monitored because it's not a sleeping medication, it's an anesthetic. You need to have breathing and heart monitors on while you are under. With the other stuff he was on it was definitely a cocktail for disaster. Some of this lays on MJ himself as he was using many drugs with many aliases but there is no way that particular doctor didn't know better than that about the anesthesia.
And doctors take a pledge to do no harm but I guess he was just the type of doctors mj wanted. Very sad
I had a procedure with that drug as well. I was the first person in and the first person out. I was the only patient they used it on that day according to the anesthesiologist, because of my meds. I can understand why it's popular as I woke up, wide awake and could have driven myself home in a very short while. It would seem Michael was using a higher dose coupled with 4 benzos. I don't understand why anyone would consider that drug for sleep unless the doctor thought it would wear off quickly and the benzo would keep him asleep. It really doesn't make sense to me.
They use propofol to anesthetize people for colonoscopies (guess how I know, lol). Just as you say, you absolutely have to have anesthesiologists monitoring the patient. Also I cannot imagine that the 19 aliases would have done anything to cover up Jackson's real identity because his appearance was extremely distinctive and known worldwide. I think they knew who he was!
Ultimately, I believe it’s MJ’s own fault. He chose to surround himself with people who he knew wouldn’t say “no” to him.
Before my surgery..the last thing I remember the doctor saying is..I'm gonna give you what Michael Jackson had..
Conrad was dodgy as they come. Not calling 911 was basically admission of his own guilt and wrong doing, and that he was more concerned about a cover up than saving Michael’s life. He is very lucky he didn’t serve more time in jail. Remember when they couldn’t find him for a while after Michael died? Again, dodgier than dodgy.
That and he did not know proper CPR techniques. You never try CPR on a bed. If you do not have a bed board you move the person to the floor. Proper Chest compressions are not possible on a soft surface.
I’ll take the hate for this but thats what makes me feel it was a planned death.
Murray should of had life. Michael was deliberately murdered and it was premeditated. Murray was not just helped by the police but also by the media etc. Disgusting lies about him. Michael was strong fitt and healthy and no addict.
To be fair he is a doctor and admistrating CPR is a priority over 911 call always. That being said, he should have never been giving him that drug at home under any circumstance. Imo he should have gotten a harsher sentence and other doctors being yes men for money too
Sad and deeply nuanced but I believe the doctor who agreed to administer the drug is ultimately at fault.
Michael had everything - talent, good looks, money, adoration.
He gained and lost it all including his life in a span of 50 years.
You are right Dr Grande, no easy answers to this complex tale!
And yet people still misspell the name Michael.
Oops typo! Fixed!
Michael had a great life! He had ups and downs, like everybody else but left a legacy that'll last forever! His music is his message.
I don't think he ever lost the talent. The This Is It concerts were shaping up to be something.
@Richard Lawrence We'll never truly know. But you are right, 50 dates does seem overkill.,
Recovering addicts make the best drug counselors, especially if it’s the same drug of choice. They have lived the life and understand the panic of withdrawal.
Wrong. Just wrong.
As a non-addict (light recreational use only) drug and alcohol counselor, I not sure that is always true. I was also an EMT in my youth. No patient in the history of emergency medicine cares if the EMT/paramedic has had the exact same injury as them. We are still there to help.
@@Real_McPhee it's not the same thing. Fallacious analogy.
@@spencerjones6132 It’s an easy example for people to understand, albeit a bit of a stretch. Still, it’s a bit of a narrow view to think addicts make the best counselors. The person’s demeanor, their willingness to continuously learn/improve, and desire to help others makes a good counselor…regardless of their historic use of substances.
The doctor administered a surgical anesthetic in a home setting. Surgical anesthetics require constant monitoring. There is no indication he had or utilized appropriate monitoring equipment, there is a showing that he failed to monitor him in admittedly absenting himself to use the bathroom. He failed to call for 911 and he did not himself initiate or perform CPR on the patient. He got off lucky.
He should've received a least 20 years... can he still practice?
@@indranidasgupta8982 interesting question did a quick and dirty followup, Murray held licenses in three states. Texas, California and Nevada. After conviction Texas revoked his license and California and Nevada suspended him from practice. California is currently showing the license has been voluntarily surrendered. Nevada is showing suspension for non payment. Uncertain if, when or how these licenses can be reinstated. There were also news reports which I can't verify of his practicing in the Caribbean in the past. Current status unknown.
@@THE-id1by thanks for doing the research!! If it were me, I'd stay far away from him as my physician, but I wonder if there are people who've never heard his name... gullible people are everywhere. That said, only the rich AND naive are at risk from the dude.
Not only that he had no business using anesthesia as he wasn't a anesthesiologist. He really did basically walk free!!
Wrong, he is licence to administer Propofol, the dose he gave him would never have killed him. You are not medically trained so go away and stop commenting thinking your cleaver, MJ was a drug addict with demerol and could not sleep as he was so high. 25MG of propofol would never have killed him, Dr was an escape goat.
It's also noted that prior to the later half of Michael Jackson's "Dangerous Tour" (1993), Michael had reconstructive surgery on his scalp to help repair the damaged scalp he sustained from that 1984 Pepsi commercial. This, the allegations, and the physical demands of his world tour took a toll on him immensely that he needed medical attention. It's evident even in his dress rehearsal for that final leg of that tour that Michael was not in the best physical and mental health to complete that tour. It's unfortunate the physicians who "treated" Michael didn't care for him in his best interest.
I believe MJ was a gentle soul who people took advantage of. I would have loved to be his friend.
Same. And I wouldn't want a penny for it.
He was a gentle soul indeed. I managed to spend quite a bit of time with him when he came to visit South Africa at Sun City resort where my husband was an executive manager. He was actually in charge of Michael's security for the last leg of his History world tour. I saw a soft spoken, very generous, kind and caring man who loved life. What a pity that he went off the rails with the medication 😢
I did not know all of the problems that he had. I feel so bad for the things he experienced. Life was certainly not easy for him.
🙋♀️ veterinarian here! I use propofol on a regular basis to help induce anesthesia on my patients prior to a surgical procedure. I like propofol because it passes through the blood brain barrier very quickly, so if there were to be a problem, the anesthetic gas could be turned off and the patient will wake up very quickly. However, it is a hypnotic agent. It causes transient apnea, which is deadly if not monitored properly. This is a great analysis Dr Grande! Thanks for all you do ❤️🐕🐾🐈
Thanks for this addition! I'm curious if Jackson would have needed intubation when he used propofol.
@@klutterkicker typically, intubation is necessary during a surgical procedure so that gas anesthesia can be maintained. Often times, propofol is not the main stay method of anesthetizing my patients. Oftentimes I will use a cocktail such as midazolam to enhance the effects of propofol. Because propofol is so transient, many procedures can be done quickly without being intubated. Procedures such as getting knocked out real quick for a tooth to be pulled. Getting twilight sedation for a colonoscopy. Things like that
@@BackyardButcher That's interesting thanks! I figured repeated intubation would be hard to go through, especially for a singer, but I see now why it might have been attractive to him.
But you are talking about using propofol on animals right? Using a hospital strength anesthetic on someone at home who simply wants to sleep seems extremely irresponsible for the doctor. Unfortunately, I understand exactly what it is like when a person is already addicted to morphine or other narcotics to need something stronger to sleep but what doctor in his right mind applies a hospital grade anesthetic at home? Like someone else commented that means he should have been constantly monitored without one second of lapse. This idiot doctor was Caribbean trained where there is less value of human life in my opinion. Most third world countries don't care much about human life and death (based on my ancestry) so not as much diligence is put into human care. This Dr. was a jerk. Mr. Jackson did what he was required to do, he received medical supervision from a licensed doctor, so he had every expectation to be cared for, it isn't his fault he was overdosed by an idiot. Then that doctor killed one of the greatest talents of all time.Shame
Not a great analysis. Michael's murder was premeditated. No one should discuss Michael in such a slanderous victimising way!?? He was not a Drug addict the media was full of disinformation. Michael was the victim of a premeditated murder. Murray was helped.
I was born in 1958 and loved seeing Michael’s great career and his music videos all throughout.
It was very sad seeing his struggles toward the end of his time. He was on top of the world, and I believe many people in general destroyed him emotionally, physically, and financially even before his death.
@@Melinda_Ross Then they pass it on.
@@Melinda_Ross What do you mean?
@@lynnehuff9659 That Michael was a victim.
He destroyed himself.
I liked him, too. He's fine, wherever he is. He had more than 30million liquid assests and his life isurance policy remains uncashed. He is not listed in the Social Security database of deceased persons. If you call Forest Lawn and ask if he is buried there and they will tell you his remains are not on the property. He Xscape-d. He retired. He was a very smart guy and he knew exactly what he was doing. He just wanted a peacful retirement and that's what he got so good for him.
I quit drinking about 12 years ago. One thing I've learned through that process is that the responsibility for everything that happens when I'm drunk falls to me. It doesn't matter what the environmental pressures are. It doesn't matter who gave me drinks or why. If I drink again, that's because I did it to myself. And if something happens while I'm drunk, the fault is all mine. Knowing this on a visceral level is one of the things that helps me not to drink. Accountability is a powerful thing.
True that. I drink I end up in jail because of accountability
Bravo. More people should recognize the need for, and accept responsibility for, their own conduct. The "poor little rich boy" fantasy just tries to shift responsibility to the truly greedy doctors.
Well said.
Bravo. I wish there would be more people like you that can overcome it by racional decisions and will power
I totally agree with you... I stopped drinking in 1998 and I claim full responsability what I did or said when under alcohol... and that helped on my road to sobriety!!
Dr. Grande… 9/11 is a tough day for me. Thank you for reminding me of Jackson. Such a talented musician. What bothers me about his death is that he was surrounded by fame seeking people who could not tell him no. The world 🌎 lost a gifted musician. Jackson was surrounded by yes men. 🤔❤🇺🇸
I remember 9/11 as if it was yesterday. I was 27 and traveled 20 minutes before it happened over New York, get stuck at Miami's airport for 7 days and found out about it because there were so many reporters, the company said us nothing. I asked what the problem was to a reporter and he told me what had happened. I was going to Mobil, Alabama for working. Horrible day. We couldn't leave the airport. The most horrific week of my life. English isn't my language.
@@xminusone1 I think it was like having my American heart ❤ torn to glass pieces that day. I hope you are healing. Best of luck to you.🤔❤🇺🇸
Bit of 9/11 trivia- MJ was supposed to have a meeting in one of the towers that morning.
He was gone long before he died
Addiction is a hell that I wouldn't wish on anyone. It's a slow putridity that robs you of your soul.
I get what you say, but the soul just stands aside until you’re ready to figure it out maybe..😐
if you don’t give in, and be careful, depending on what you’ve been up to, you just have to excuse me for being rude… Shit it out piss it out sweat it out cry it out struggle don’t give in.. call things by their true names and don’t lie to yourself… That is the worst of all things. Besides that you’re with yourself 100% of the time so… Who are you fooling here??
words too much power… Swim to the other side… And just don’t look back. There’s nothing in the bottom of the bottle that will help.
And most people don’t know in the real world you really only get to be happy or feel joy around 50% of the time if your chemical brain is balanced so… You just got a deal! And
“To thy own self be true!”
@@ZYX84 well said. 💯
@@mave143 🌸🪁🌸🪁🌸🪁🌸🪁🌸
Michael Jackson was a good man. In the final months of my college roommate's life he was confined to the Michael Jackson Burn Center. Michael had generously funded this facility after receiving the burns to his scalp. Michael regularly visited this center regularly at that time and befriended Scott and his family. This kindness gave great comfort to those who loved Scott. This is how I choose to remember Michael....
such a beautiful and real statement. This speaks to the heart of Michael's soul and I know he is in heaven now feeling this
Always refreshing to hear recounts and perspectives of people who actually knew the guy instead of people who believe the word of tabloids and biased, one-sided documentaries like the gospel. Cheers and RIP to your friend and Michael Jackson
Michael was a good man a good father, a good friend. Michael had to much awareness and self discipline to be a drug addict. THIS DOCTOR DOES NOT KNOW MICHAEL. MICHAEL WAS MURDERED AND IT WAS PREMEDITATED. MICHAEL WAS NOT DRUG DEPENDENT IN THE WAY DESCRIBED BY THE COURT OR MURRAY. MURRAY COMMITED PREMEDITATED MURDER. THIS VIDEO IS DISGUSTING AND THIS DOCTOR HAS JUST JUMPED ON THE BAND WAGON OF BLAMEING A INNOCENT VICTIM OF A HORRENDOUS MURDER.
@@Omar_E11 yes I know, we're terrible people to believe actual victims -- who are also people who actually knew him.
I greatly appreciate your take on the addiction conundrum. For over 25 years, I could not figure out how to stop using alcohol and drugs (I stopped short of anything that required a needle. My fear of needles came in handy for once)
Throughout the entire using span, I steadily used and drank more and more until,
my wife of 15 years took my four children and moved 2000 miles away. Wouldn't you know it, I began to develop a sincere desire to stop drinking and drugging. I moved and lived close to my family, and sought help. It took 3 months before I drank and used for the last time, but I did it. My wife and I remained separated for over two years, while she monitored the person I was becoming, and then she let me back into her house. It's been fifteen years, and I wouldn't trade a clean and sober life for anything. It's so sad to hear of people dying as a result of not being able, or not figuring out how, to get free.
Thank you for this video, in particular. Your commentary really hit home for me.
Excellent quality👌 here Dr.G thanks, no frills, long-winded, triggering word salad, to the point, bias free, factual, professionally explained and therfore easily understood by the majority if not most people. Now this is how it's done, a lot of outlets could indeed learn many a thing or two in terms of information giving!
I feel bad for Michael Jackson because his father was extremely cruel and he never had a childhood. Back in the 1960s and 1970s record companies made their artists tour constantly. This meant they spent little time at home with some kind of normal down time. Black artists especially were pressured to work harder, sing better, dance better and dress better to prove they were at least as good as their white counterparts. Michael Jackson really had no frame of reference for what a normal child hood looked like.
One thing I've learned is that people that I've known quite well (some eve family members) that become addicted to opiates are never the same again. Even if they find a way to stay clean, they are different. I don't mean necessarily in a bad way, but it does change people. It is also frightening how quickly they can fall back into addiction even after a long time. I don't think the brain ever stops craving.
Such a pure soul got many hazard in his life but he fights in every difficult circumstances n prove his talent and charisma ....His life is totally dedicated to music n art as well as he is a biggest humanitarian too
We love him forever from the bottom of our hearts
Long live the king
God bless you.....
I lived and worked in a house for men dealing with Substance Use Disorder for 22 years. Most of our residents were also dealing with other serious mental health diagnoses, most commonly bipolar and schizoaffective disorder. Nearly all of the men had spent significant time homeless, in some cases decades, and over half were convicted felons. The men were sent to outpatient or day treatment programs in the area -- we did no treatment on site -- and they were also required to attend local peer support groups. Most attended Alcoholics Anonymous and/or Narcotics Anonymous meetings in the area. By and large they did quite well. Our recidivism rate was just under 25 percent, and even some of those who relapsed ended up doing well in the long run.
In my opinion, the major reason our work was successful is because we offered a *community* of support. Whether one thinks that a person is powerless or not over their addiction, I have never known anyone dealing with Substance Use Disorder who got clean and sober on their own. They always had a community of people around them supporting them.
I went to a VA substance abuse clinic, which was strongly associated with AA, and was so disgusted by the control they wanted over my life that I quit the program and I've not had an alcoholic beverage since that time thirty years ago in November. I wanted to free my self from alcohol, so that I could be more productive in my life, not to sit around with others and whine about my condition two to three times a day, which is what they demanded. I put myself back on track and accomplished some long held goals that I thought were, by that time, well beyond my grasp.
@@GradyPhilpott So the clinic worked. LOL. You probably got more out of the substance abuse clinic than anyone. Yes!
@@franciastone5048 Maybe, but I've often joked that the one thing that keeps me off alcohol is the possibility that some judge might order me to go back to AA. That's strong medicine.
Wow. Keep doing what you're doing. It sounds like a great program.
My father quit drinking alcohol, coffee and quit smoking all by himself and he was extremely bad alcoholic. Bad enough that he was able to drink 1 L 40 vol alcohol with 2 gulps . And sold his wedding ring for one bottle of vodka. And he not even seek help from a God. He was narcissist and violent but also violence ended with ending substance use / alcohol. I also quit smoking without any help. And I tried many different things and never was addicted - now days I don't like even to drink alcohol. Some studies suggest that addiction is in genes. My mother is very weak and can't quite smoking even she had because of it already 2 brain strokes. My brother was very similar to her. He has addiction and mental health problems from my mother and his father. Most mental health problems also can be in person blood line especially heritage from father to son ( psychological and addiction Inc)
Being in drug addiction recovery, I appreciated your comment to treat the addicted patient with compassion. That one thing can mean the difference between life and death. Thank you for your videos and analysis. They are so informative and interesting……
That was the best description of a person who is caught in a drug addiction life! Thank you for your compassion
Copy that 👍
It was documented that Dr. Conrad Murray was actually in another room talking to a "lady friend" on his cell phone when Michael stopped breathing under his care. Either way, he was being neglectful as a doctor.
Because Conrad was just playing a role. Michael paid him to perform and allegedly administer the fatal dose of "Prop"ofol. Consider this: MJ had more than 30million liquid assests and his life isurance policy remains uncashed. He is not listed in the Social Security database of deceased persons. If you call Forest Lawn and ask if he is buried there and they will tell you his remains are not on the property. He Xscape-d. He retired. He was a very smart guy and he knew exactly what he was doing. He gave his fans plenty of hints of what was coming. He planned it for a long time and pulled it off. Bravo to him and his peaceful retirement.
I have had minor surgery and if course that included being "put under". It was absolutely the most restful "sleep" I have experienced. I can totally understand why MJ wanted to be "put under". Common sense should have kicked in and it should have been understood that it is not a good idea to use it daily as the answer to insomnia. MJ and the doctor are both to blame.
Likewise. Never understood addiction to painkillers until being put under for a surgery. It was so restful I remember being disappointed coming out of it. As a "little person" I don't have access to these drugs every day which is probably a good thing.
@@user-mq2vh1vq4y thank you! For a moment I thought maybe I was alone. I, too, was sad when I woke up. Something that good is not very likely to be a good idea to do recklessly.
Facts.
I had minor surgery. I was put under using fentanyl and midazolam. I remember slowly coming to, as I was being wheeled out of the OR. It was such a beautiful feeling of peace and euphoria. I was totally unaware of my physical body.
If I had regular access to those drugs, I'd be dead in short order.
@@gardendormouse6479 in reality, you could if you were so inclined. I'd bet your common sense and intelligence is what resists that temptation. Be well... :)
I am a big fan. I've watched all his live shows on youtube, many times. We miss you MJ. The one and only. The best entertainer of all time.
Whenever I. Have Dr. Grande playing and my chickens are around, they tuck their heads and nap. I think his soothing voice makes them feel secure and relaxed. They grew up listening to him.
I’ll have to try this with my chickens!
I love chickens, they're really smarter than what they're given credit for, we have 7 at home and they're family.
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I love the way Dr. Grande shifts his eyes when he says he’s only speculating 😊
Haha me too
Jackson was a cash cow for his family and he was pushed well beyond his limits to cope with such stress. This does not relieve him of his responsibility, but I would suggest that his problems started long before he took the first psychotropic drug.
Rest In Peace Michael 💔🙏🕊️💔🙏🕊️💔🙏🕊️ Thank You for sharing your talent with the world.
No doubt Jackson became dependent on drugs but those who enabled him are ultimately at fault. His life was so complicated but it’s sad he is no longer present in our lives. What a talent.
I was so sad to hear about his death although I never realized how hard it would it me until he died. Then I did more research about him and his musical talent and realized I underestimated him my whole life. He was a phenom, WROTE most of his music, choreographed most of it, performed all of it, worked his butt off his whole life since young childhood, supported his entire extended family one way or another, and the list goes on. I feel so bad that I didn't appreciate him enough while he was alive. I always enjoyed his performance and most of his music but never realized what a genius he was. I also think he was abused by so many people and I don't believe he molested young boys, most accusers were grifters. Michael's father was a monster and mother did nothing to help her kids defend from their ruthless father (maybe because of her religion), but still. The Jackson kids are so damaged.
Michael was murdered he was not a Drug addict this is disinformation spread in the media circus and by some deliberately.
I believe this is one of the most important videos Dr. Grande has made so far. I think most people would agree it offers great insight into people with substance abuse problems as well as how they begin and then continue to get worse.
“Pain free fantasy” as someone with a chronic pain condition, I can only imagine what it would be like to wake up and feel good aka normal. I can see how someone would want to use everything they could even dangerous drugs to escape pain. I consider myself high functioning, lots of people have unbearable pain 24/7 with no cure.
I've been in chronic pain for 26 years and I've forgotten what it feels like to _not_ feel pain. I also know that, even with pain medication, I'm going to feel this way every single day for the rest of my life. I totally understand the "pain free fantasy". However, I can't imagine taking the types of meds MJ was on. I wonder if he truly believed that since the drugs came from a doctor, and a doctor was administering them, he wouldn't die. Did he not understand the danger he was in? I guess I don't understand the mind of an addict. It's just so tragic.
Btw, I saw MJ in concert in 1988. To this day, it was the *best* concert I've ever been to. It was an experience!
I have chronic, progressive pain, and pretty severe insomnia. Good thing Im tough, haha. Its pretty miserable "compared to others." So, I dont compare myself to others.
“Michael Jackson was killed by his own success” - good final statement and true of a lot of wealthy people. Reminds me of your video on JFK Jr’s death where he was wealthy enough to buy a very expensive plane that required a lot of expertise and experience that he sadly did not possess.
Didn’t expect you to discuss Michael Jackson’s death, but I’m glad you did. Lot of factors lead to his death. Just all around sad. Thank you for the video Dr. Grande, keep up the great work!
Many other doctors are also responsible for giving out drugs under false names. But one took the hit.
Where is Michael's responsibility in this too.
It's really a sad outcome.
Michael bore the ultimate responsibility he paid with his life
It's called "Death by Entourage." (IOW, there are always people around who will give rich/famous celebrities whatever they want, even to the point of death, which is well illustrated here.)
Jackson looked so strange toward the end of his life. It's so sad that his addiction ultimately caused his death. "This Is It" was an ironic title for his final tour.
Not ironic.
Look at his autopsy report. He wasn't addicted to anything. What was in body was what the quack doctor pumped into him. He had two chronic deseases - Vitiligo & Lupus. He also had scalp burn from the pepsi accident which caused severe pain for years.
@@Angela-gc3kr Right! He didnt have any drugs in him other than what the murderer Dr. Murray put in him.
“Physician, heal thy self.“
😐.
We as individuals spend 100% of our time with ourselves…
So bottom line is.
“To thy own self be true.”
😐
Great points. He was trying to escape the pain with chemical dependency. I do feel people can change if they want, but some may need help, no one answer. Thanks Dr G😊💞💞
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He did escape. He Xscape'd. Not the way you think. He retired. He had more than 30million liquid assests and his life isurance policy remains uncashed. He is not listed in the Social Security database of deceased persons. If you call Forest Lawn and ask if he is buried there and they will tell you his remains are not on the property. He was a very smart guy with lots of resources and he knew exactly what he was doing. Many celebs fake their deaths when they are tired of the attention and want to be out of the public eye so they can grow old without being bothered. David Bowie, George Michael, Carrie Fisher, Joan Rivers.. and many more.. Not dead. Elvis did die on the day reported and so did Jim Morrison. You have to look at each death and find out what happened to determine whether they died or retired.
@@cantfindmykeys If so good for them
@@zenawarrior7442 yes, they worked for it.
What a complex yet thorough analysis! Impressed by your multiple angles and insights. "It's not like the doctor could've said, Michael who." Michael Jackson gave everything for his accomplishments, and as a fan and artist myself, he left a reservoir to forever inspire.
Interesting how similar this is to what happened to Elvis. Something he should have been very familiar with due to his marriage to LMP.
The difference being that Elvis did die on that day as reported but MJ did not. He retired like many celebs do when they don't want to be bothered with fame anymore. MJ had more than 30million liquid assests and his life isurance policy remains uncashed. He is not listed in the Social Security database of deceased persons. If you call Forest Lawn and ask if he is buried there and they will tell you his remains are not on the property. He Xscape-d. He retired. He was a very smart guy and he knew exactly what he was doing. Elvis died, Jim Morrison,Joplin and Hendrix died. David Bowie, George Michael, Joan Rivers, Chris Cornell and many others.. are alive and well.
You said he used during the day to feel pleasure, but because of the drugs he was using, wouldn't it be reducing pain rather than gaining pleasure? Normal discomfort would have felt like pain because of the chemical dependency and there's the issue of trying to treat psychological pain with these drugs. 🙁 Thank you for covering this topic!
Dr. Grande, I wonder if you could examine the insomnia that seems to have plagued so many public figures who ended up meeting an early death, either from medication or suicide. I am curious as to whether they couldn’t sleep because of various medications that were prescribed in order to keep these performers “on” as much as possible, or if there is an overarching mania or neurosis that one could associate with the personality type that drives a strong desire to entertain others. Or perhaps if fame itself causes these sleep issues. thank you as always!
You'd need to be more specific really.
MICHAEL WAS MURDERED. INSOMNIA WAS NOT THE PROBLEM. PEOPLE WERE TRYING TO KILL HIM. HARD TO SLEEP IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES.
Never been so early! Thank you for all of the effort you put into your videos.
Another fantastic breakdown Doc! 👍
Fame is one of my versions of hell.
I found your analysis to be as informative as an anxious, pain-ridden party and a 911-resistent zip code.
The Pepsi commercial and the 3rd degree burns he sustained frm it (exposing him to pain drugs and surgery culture) are the single most detrimental things tht damaged his adult life
There's a difference between a real addict and someone who uses drugs recreationally. Some people will stop using drugs, but then will pick up a more acceptable addiction, such as work, or food. The problem is that it's not about the substance, not about the drug at all.
As someone who has repeatedly relapsed over the last 19 years of being in recovery, i have full gratitude for my daily reprieve from active use. And God only knows that if i would have had the resources that Jackson had, I believe I would be dead as well! I've paid the price time and time again hurt the most valued people in my life by them having to watch me spiral down. Nothing is more painful then breaking the hearts of my family and Loved ones! Please get help before your family and friends bury you. Great video and right on the money! Thanks again Doctor
I think Michael had issues he needed to deal with, but Never had Any Privacy.
Amen! And was never allowed any time to himself. ( Same thing for him).
I’ve had three surgeries using the same drugs that Michael Jackson was taking and I recall absolutely nothing. There was no feeling I euphoria or feeling good, absolutely nothing. There was no restful sleep or peace of mind that I can recall at any time.
Drugs affect different people differently.
This was by far one of the best videos i've seen all year. Thank you for this accurate and concise analysis, Dr. Grande!
Hi, your input into this field is the best ever.
Lots of love from all of your best friends in the U.K.
Interesting as always! The # 1 Doctor on TH-cam ! 💖👑💖
Compassion is almost always the answer. And taking responsibility for ones actions... You nailed it, Dr. Grande. Addiction is a complicated disease but there are physicians out there that exacerbate the addict's disease. Well done, as usual.
Another excellent analysis, Dr Grande. I always enjoy your videos and am now a keen viewer of your podcast with two experienced mental health counsellors, entitled 'The Murder Part'. I would urge your fans to watch these podcasts. Excellent dialogue and witty and hilarious chat.
Excellent discussion of this topic. I think both schools of thought apply. A person has some choice, there are enablers, a person does become someone they hadn't intended or recognize. Having worked with this population, there are some that can and others that can't . You are completely correct. Could not or would not, that is the question. Compassion either way is key. Love your videos!! Thanks, Dr. Grande.
Researchers have identified certain heritable genes specifically associated with drug and alcohol abuse. In my experience, if someone really, truly wants to stop, there are ways/means/groups to help achieve this. People with way fewer resources than MJ have quit, and have also died from it. PS I think he was incredibly gifted and driven, but that doesn't necessarily mean happy. RIP. 🕴wish you were still here!
Excellen t analysis Dr, Grande. As a person who worked with alcoholics for decades dealing with pain prescribing doctors was one of our most difficult problem. Our patients would succeeed in abstaining form alcohol just to come back to the halfway house with a prescription for lorazepam or Ativan. Then they would add a pint killer or two. Soon they would add the alcohol back in and we would have to discharge them from the house. The problem is that as staff we had no power to overturn a doctor's presecription and some doctors were just running pill mills.
Remarkable video as always Dr. Grande! ✨
Excellent video. Thank you for ypur descriptions of the theories of drug addiction. You summed up my own thoughts exactly.
Just a reminder, I'm not diagnosing anybody in this video; only speculating what could be happening when the King of Pop takes every drug known to mankind like this.
That's a bit of a stretch. I don't believe that applies here. Painkiller? Yes!
@@lalibug8055 Maybe he only took half of every drug known to mankind?
@@BigZebraCom A bit of hyperbole there, man. He took more drugs than was safe (clearly) but nowhere near half. There are close to 15,000 substances classified as drugs. Michael sounds like he may have used a dozen or two. That's roughly 0.16% of available substances. I'm not commenting because I think you were being literal, I just really wanted to do the math. 🙂
@@lauraelliott6909 I appreciate wanting to do the math! That was awesome!
@@lauraelliott6909 Have you read his Autopsy report? Only drugs in his body were administered by his doctor.
HEY DR. GRANDE!! All the way from South Africa :)
I've always wanted to get a thorough analysis of this. Thanks Dr Grande!
People use drugs, alcohol, food, exercise - and many other things - all for the same reason : to deal with emotional pain. It may be from things that they are conscious of, or things that are buried in the subconscious, (such as with Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.)
The way to move towards freedom from all of this is to get the right kind of therapy and therapist. PTSD and Complex PTSD need therapists who are trained and experienced in trauma focused therapy.
From what I understand, it seems likely that Michael Jackson had Complex PTSD from his childhood.
Therapy doesn't always help the things people suffer, emotionally. I agree it's good to try to get help.
Great video. Please make a video on the Danielle Van Damme murder. I recently watched a documentary about this case and was taken aback by the circumstances surrounding it
I thoroughly enjoyed your analysis Dr. Grande. Thank you. You're spoiling us 😆 and I'm here for it! 👏 👏
Thank you for the upload and your analysis, Dr. Grande.
As someone who followed michael avidly the only time I felt concerned was 2000-2003. His security had changed, and the old team would never have allowed him to go out like it. He was definitely on a lot of things. He was either really up and overtly outgoing and chatty which he wasnt really with us fans before or he was really slow talking and looked asleep. Very sad period. When he came back from Ireland he was his normal self and energised, but again he surrounded himself with some dubious characters. And repeat.
This is going to be very interesting. Thank you Dr Grande.
Thanks for the thought provoking video, Dr. Grande. On the topic, I 100% agree with you.
This was a very classy, compassionate analysis Dr. G. I appreciate how you focused more on Micheal's addiction and mental health than the Neverland drama. I have personal experience with opiate addiction and I know many awesome people who have also struggled, or who are presently struggling with addiction. I agree with your opinion regarding the cause of addiction; depending on the individual, it could land in one or the other diagnoses. I've witnessed people suddenly recover with no outside help of any kind; I've also witnessed people continually dig their hole deeper regardless of the consequences. Addiction doesn't fit into one box.. imo. I feel lucky in a way that I didn't/don't have the money and connections Micheal had because I would've very likely overdosed years ago. Where Michael's success killed him; my poverty saved me.🤔 Great video as always Doc! Wishing you a kickass day!🤘😁🌵🎶
Hi Dr. Grande, Thank You for another phenomenal video……. This information is completely necessary and informative.
His upbringing/early family life w/ all the pressure morphed him into near unrecognizable, deluded by drugs to dull the pain and eventually killed him. His internal life must have been hell.
Great synopsis by Dr. Grande. Was unaware of alot of detailed covered here, esp about the dermatologist.
Excellent video , Dr. Grande.
Seeing a professional like you tell us all the pitfalls Michael was letting himself fall into was enlightening.
For me ,one of the most distressing characteristics of Michael Jackson's existence was his apparent continual disgust with his physical appearance.
Michael Jackson was a handsome young black man with zero need to ever change anything about his appearance.
I wish his father ,who was a driven monster of a human being had driven that idea into his head.
Be happy as God made you because He makes artwork.
Tell anyone you need to change your face that they need to go straight to Hell.
Obviously, those very few people born with obvious issues need corrective surgery but Michael was never one of them.
It really did break my heart with every new release seeing him turned , by Hollywood horror doctors , into an increasingly bizarre version of the handsome young man we once knew.
We see this form of plastic surgery sickness in so many people today.
That there is always a better version of me after the next knife job.
That today I am simply not good enough.
In another universe, maybe Michael was good enough.
Maybe Michael sang his songs, never changed his face once , retired on fat cash , married a woman and had eight happy kids.
I would have liked to have seen that universe.
Rest In Peace, Micheal.
i aggree what he did to his face is just horrific and sad . he looked perfect just the way he was . period. Joe always made fun of his nose your right about that ......RIP Michael🌹
Phil. Great comment. Poor Michael. It's too sad.
Well you did not know Michael. Your interpretation of who he was and what killed him could not be further from the truth. Michael was always a beautiful handsome blackman. He was in a photo shoot for ebony magazine in 2007. He looked stunning. He was the most handsome awesome man I have ever known and was gorgeous. He had three beautiful children and was a good father. He was a happy positive dynamic strong brave self disciplined person. He was loved by millions. He was a winner. He came to see me in spring 2009. He was fitt and healthy and no trace of drugs. He was no addict. He was murdered and this murder was premeditated. Conrad Murray was helped he was not even charged properly . He should of faced a murder charge with life in prison. The people who assisted Murray should also of been charged. There was alot of disinformation in the media. Certain psycophants did not help. For example Lisa Marie who had nothing to do with Michael for many years and who had remarried had the nerve to compare his death to her fathers elvis. There was no similarity at all. Michael was not a Drug addict it's a lie. Michael was happy with a strong heart and great future ahead of him with a woman he loved and children who loved him. People who did not care about his fame or money. Shame on all of you swallowing media disinformation. Michael did not deserve this rubbish.
Fascinating discussion about my favorite musician! Great analysis, and very interesting discussion about addiction and its complexity.
Good Afternoon, Dr. Grande. Thank you for your wide variety of Analyses. 👌
I was given strong benzos for 17 years. The pain everyday being strung out was unbearable. I had extreme insomnia, and I barely graduated from college.
Thank for the analysis doc!
I was wondering if you could make a video about Terry A. Davis someday.
Thanks again and I’m looking foward to the next video.
Thank you Dr Grande you are a breath of fresh air…now back to the video.
I really like your videos. They seem well balanced, informed, and characterized by common sense. And I love your speaking voice.
Having had Propofol as intended for numerous surgeries, there's an avenue to it that's not talked about or considered. For some artistic folks, a micro dose opens windows of a creativity high that is short lived but highly intense. Kinda like a quick in/out LSD trip. If you fall asleep, you forget. Stay awake and you can remember the dream. Perhaps MJ also experienced this duality and mistakenly thought he could "sustain" the intensified creativity memories AND get the rest he so desired in a pain free state. It was the docs job to care for mind AND body but MJs status, and money, got the better of him. Could MJ have coerced or bought an anasthesiologist - pain management specialist? Probably yes as he'd snowballed others to get where he was.
Well said. Very intriguing.
How about a speculative analysis on the 1984 kidnapping of Jody Plauche by Jeffery Doucett? What made the case famous is the reaction of Jody’s father, Gary Plauche. Very interesting and chock full of potential mental health factors. Either way please keep up the amazing work you are doing. We all enjoy your videos regardless of the topics you choose.
I'd really like him to cover the Steven Avery kidnapping.
Yet another INCREDIBLE analysis and breakdown, Dr. Grande! Thank you for all of the time you put it in these videos and I hope you are doing really well ^__^
Always enjoy your "double features!" Thanks, Doc!
He was an absolute talent and a sweetheart.❤ His Dad was a tyrant.
Man I read all the books, watched all the documentaries and followed all the cases. Michaels entire life, from day one, was a nightmare. What a mess.
You need to read more about what really happened on that day. He had more than 30million liquid assests and his life isurance policy remains uncashed. He is not listed in the Social Security database of deceased persons. If you call Forest Lawn and ask if he is buried there and they will tell you his remains are not on the property. He Xscape-d. He retired. He was a very smart guy and he knew exactly what he was doing. He just wanted a peacful retirement and that's what he got so good for him. Lots of celebs retire with a fake death so they can stop being bothered by the press. In MJ's case, he must have been fed up with everything. He gave his fans many hints about what he planned to do.. if you paid attention. His Xscape album was named that for a reason.
@@cantfindmykeys Hmmm. Yeah, MJ, Jim Morrison, and Elvis are sharing a Paris apartment and a private island. Thanks for showing all of us how easy it is to make seriously idiotic comments. (Edited for spelling)
@@cantfindmykeys wow dude, I thought you were joking, but the punchline never came.. I guess ignorance really is bliss. (Not implying that you’re “ignorant” just meaning that pretending reality, isn’t reality, must be a peaceful place to live, as long as you don’t read, watch the news, go online, or speak to another human being, or go anywhere that would certainly pop that bubble)
@@BucketHeadianHagg I appreciate your point of view. I killed my TV in 2001. I am not ignorant. Or delusional. Or chomping on amanita muscaria as Mr. Trippy suggests, or an MJ fanatic, or waiting for niburu or parroting nonsense from any particular source. I go deep diving into each and every celebrity "death" that interests me. I look in all the corners and sweep under the carpets and peek into dark closets. I follow the money. I pay attention. I don't put my faith in the media to tell me what to think and believe. I draw my own conclusions. So thanks for replying to my comment and feel free to disregard it if you so choose. I am not in any way offended. I just like to offer an alternate version that resonates with the information I have spent many hours gathering.
@@BeatlesCentricUniverse Oh, dear. I think you misunderstood. Elvis and Morrison definitely bit the bippy on the day their deaths were reported. So it's not possible for them to be sharing an apartment in Paris (or anywhere else) with MJ. However, there is an island off the coast of a European country where MJ spent some time immediately following his 'death'. Where he is now is not something I can be certain of, he has more than one retirement home. He is alive and breathing, though. Unlike Elvis and Morrison.
Love the poetic irony of your last line. Excellent coverage.
Great analysis again Dr G!!!
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BEST singer and dancer of ALL TIME!!!!!
R.I.P Michael Jackson 😇🕺🏾
I feel in general we all take the effects of any medication less seriously than we should. We think they aren't as harmful as street drugs because they are mainly legal to obtain.
One of your best videos yet!
I'm liking the return to longer videos. If it's a matter of making a trade-off, I'd be happy with fewer, more in depth videos than more, shorter duration ones.
The TH-cam algorithm does not agree....
Thank you for this analysis. My brother has suffered from substance abuse his whole life and it's much too simple to say either way what is causing it... Your own choices or your diseased brain? Compassion, not blame, is the best course of action. MJs tale is a sad one for sure.