BBC Report on Rugby in Croke Park 2007

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  • @michaelburgess6556
    @michaelburgess6556 4 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    They were not suspected British agents...they were British agents.

  • @ako1439
    @ako1439 9 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    14 civilians murdered, in fact

  • @drewwilliams6888
    @drewwilliams6888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    From a Welshman, one word for Croke Park, WOW. Just amazing, looks amazing.

  • @Cora342
    @Cora342 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Was against it at the time tbh as I would come from a GAA background as I always considered Croke Park to be Ours.
    I went to the French match and watch the English match in the pub and enjoyed the great win but I think the overall feeling was that something important and good had just happened or had come to pass. It was like being forced to make up with someone you were fighting with when you weren’t ready to forgive them but were glad afterwards that you did. It did help that we stuffed England but in truth I don’t think they were up for that match at all, perhaps deep down they are decent blokes and played their part in the healing. As a footnote I was delighted that we stuffed a team coached by Brian Aston as he was very disparaging about the Irish team when he was in charge of them and famously said after we lost a match “ I don’t know who’s game plan they were playing but it wasn’t mine”. Ireland used to be truly awful back then, glad those days are over.

  • @TT_1221
    @TT_1221 9 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    And Ireland beat the English in that game in Croke Park . . . also important! :)

  • @meganberry2805
    @meganberry2805 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Sorry I think they left out that the “suspected British agents” were murdering innocent Irish people for standing up for their rights and that the retaliation didn’t just kill people in croke park, they drove in to an innocent match filled with civilians and opened fire on innocent people?! 🤦🏻‍♀️ this was not a ‘retaliation’, this was Bloody Sunday.

  • @Someone-dv8uj
    @Someone-dv8uj 10 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    There was never going to be trouble that day. We Irish might like to moan and groan, but we are also very passive. There are always a few trouble makers, who would even cause trouble at their own mother's funeral, but the Irish were ready to accept this. Of the 83'000 people there that day, there wasn't a peep out of any of them. The whole fear factor was media driven. Had the media not have been driving it, no one would even have noticed. It was a great day. Just shows you that any fence can be mended.

    • @Someone-dv8uj
      @Someone-dv8uj 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ***** Wow! It's hard to imagine that your message could be anymore immature! Did you write it yourself, or did you have a 5 year old write it for you??? "This may have been based around my family". Sounds like you don't know. Are you playing the victim here because you share a name? If it is the case that you are related, I'm sure they must be turning in their grave, knowing that they are responsible for a sad little person like you. I love the abuse. Means that you have no point to make, or are incapable of making one. You should ask a grown up for help with your predictable reply to this.. It's back to the parents basement for you.

    • @stoney7145
      @stoney7145 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That day was so momentous it was the day ireland grew up

    • @nigefal
      @nigefal 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes but Rugby is predominately a middle class sport. If it was a working class sport there would have more likely been trouble.

    • @nigefal
      @nigefal 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      22grena Would ya go away out of that!
      Irish people are very slow to complain.
      Buses late, dinners at restaurants. Even in 800 year occupations a fuss was kicked up only even now and then. Even then it was only a minority.

    • @Harry_-sg4tj
      @Harry_-sg4tj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Completely mate were stronger as allies 🇬🇧🇮🇪

  • @djbillybopdjbillybop2817
    @djbillybopdjbillybop2817 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The jersey worn by the Tipperary player Michael Hogan during the
    Tipperary v Dublin challenge match on November 21, 1920, known as
    Bloody Sunday. Is on Display in Tipperary County Museum were I live just 5 Minutes walk in Clonmel or Irish ITS Name Cluain Meala.
    Great Video COYBIG.

    • @abvl8348
      @abvl8348 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've been there and seen it plenty of times. I'm here now because of us putting in a bid with the UK to host the World Cup and I'm wondering will they involve Croke Park in the fray

    • @derekryan5398
      @derekryan5398 ปีที่แล้ว

      So you mullinahone then

    • @djbillybopdjbillybop2817
      @djbillybopdjbillybop2817 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@derekryan5398 Clonmel, and you Derek.

  • @conansfries
    @conansfries 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Ughhhhh seeing Tom Humphries in this just made my skin crawl.

  • @tonykillen9159
    @tonykillen9159 6 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Imagine this was a Northern Ireland loyalist stadium no way would they have done what we did

    • @RobertK1993
      @RobertK1993 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tony Killen Nope bitter lot them .

    • @Nicklogann
      @Nicklogann 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@RobertK1993 bitter like GAA not letting players play or watch football or rugby for 30 years? Clueless republicans as always 👍🏻

    • @ldb1432
      @ldb1432 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Nicklogann I look forward to welcoming you to a United Ireland. I'll even accept an extra day off for your "cultural celebrations" on the 12th. Tiocfaidh ar la no chora

    • @Nicklogann
      @Nicklogann 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ldb1432 my valid point clearly triggered you

  • @44bluenose
    @44bluenose 9 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    well done Ireland and the irish

  • @casobrien1637
    @casobrien1637 5 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    "Suspected British agents" there was no suspect it's what the where

    • @seantoner7392
      @seantoner7392 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No out of the 15 they shot, only 7 of them turned out to be British agents.

    • @baguetteman8153
      @baguetteman8153 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@seantoner7392 and out of the 14 they killed, 14 were civilians. You don’t just go and shoot innocent people because they killed some of yours.

    • @seantoner7392
      @seantoner7392 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@baguetteman8153 I completely agree, was just pointing out that the Ira shot innocnect people too that day, 8 people, who shouldn't be forgotten about. Obviously what happened at croke Park was an atrocity, wasn't denying that.
      BTW the reason I replied so quick was I happened to be on TH-cam there and this came up.

    • @benbolger147
      @benbolger147 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      none of yours were innocent as you were occupying Ireland which didn't belong to you. So none of you were innocent.

    • @seantoner7392
      @seantoner7392 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@benbolger147 What did you not understand about not being intelligence officers?

  • @darraghfarrell9024
    @darraghfarrell9024 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I was actually at this game and it was amazing!?! It was the first time god save the queen was played in the Gaelic games headquarters and you could hear a pin drop!?! It was an amazing day for everyone!?! And Ireland actually won!?!

  • @stevebuchmann9868
    @stevebuchmann9868 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m not Irish or English, but I take heart that rugby is the sort of sport that can bring people together to respect their differences and try to understand each other.

  • @phillipwilloughby5013
    @phillipwilloughby5013 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    14 murdered. 3 of them were children.

    • @512-m7f
      @512-m7f 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This cannot be said enough

    • @Haryy37732
      @Haryy37732 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No it was 6 INNOCENT children

  • @qwertyTRiG
    @qwertyTRiG 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Not the first time. God Save the Queen was played previously at Croke Park for the Special Olympics.

    • @IsCumaFut2
      @IsCumaFut2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup it was and in Australia played Ireland in international rules and the union jack is on the Australia flag..

  • @bppmurphy
    @bppmurphy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When Keith Woods starts his monologue at 2:34, I swear I start getting goosebumps on my goosebumps.

  • @johnmurphy5161
    @johnmurphy5161 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    one of the best days in irish sport.

  • @cgrr8090
    @cgrr8090 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I'm opposed to foreign games being played on Gaelic pitches but them beating the English almost made it worth it.

    • @Driver2616
      @Driver2616 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      C Greene : No American football so. No boxing, no rugby, no soccer, no rock concerts, no Special Olympic Games, no baseball, no Australian Football and no International Rules football. In fact, let’s go the full monty (sorry about the Sheffield phraseology) and let’s not have any form of interaction or integration or business or getting on with others in this world! Yeah, let’s be us ourselves, alone! Who cares if millions of €’s in revenue are lost by being “us ourselves”? Millions that will be used to cement the well-being of the organization and the members of the organization as they expand their clubs, their facilities, their playing fields, their members, their players and their ambitions and aspirations!! And you know what, those extra millions go out over all of Ireland. Even to the places where the Irish taxpayer can’t subsidise and fund expansion and improvements! C Greene, grow up and catch yourself on! This is 2019, not 1919!

    • @sodaking6858
      @sodaking6858 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Driver2616 that's the GAA for you look I'm Irish and I hate to have to criticize an Irish institution
      But I must the GAA is run by a large number of Backwards thinking bigots who are stuck in the past and are too stubborn to make a shit load of money by using Croke Park for big soccer and other sports games over the years this has cost them into the hundred's of millions of euro money they could have used to develop the GAA at home and abroad but nah fuck it they'd rater be hateful bigot's and stubbornly refuse to actually make a lot of money which is a shame really because GAA wise the stadium only is filled twice a year and for 99.9% of the time is dormant

    • @corkboy4523
      @corkboy4523 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@sodaking6858 the GAA allow all of the above to take part in their stadiums! WTF are you talking about?

    • @512-m7f
      @512-m7f 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tbf Soccer and Rugby are crap to watch in Croker, too far from the pitch.. Hurling all the way

  • @brianbussoli2319
    @brianbussoli2319 10 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    i know its years after it. but that video ment alot.

  • @johnmcdermott2551
    @johnmcdermott2551 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I saw a rock concert at Croke Park, so it’s not exclusively for the Gaelic.

    • @peterquaid2241
      @peterquaid2241 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Alle Warten Auf Das Licht we'd the NFL there a decade before Rugby

    • @Catcrumbs
      @Catcrumbs ปีที่แล้ว

      @@peterquaid2241 and boxing and rodeo before that

  • @alk3ie
    @alk3ie 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Keith did not stand on that spot. Clare fans were in the canal end that day...

    • @gerryscallan8992
      @gerryscallan8992 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      alk3ie
      I don't know why you would think 🤔 the he wasn't on hill 16 if he said he was I knew Clare got the majority of tickets for the canal end but that doesn't mean there would be no Clare fans on the hill this isn't soccer ⚽ fans from any team can go where they like GAA like Rugby 🏉 are total different to soccer ⚽ so don't get us mixed up with soccer

    • @damienflanagan1755
      @damienflanagan1755 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gerryscallan8992 well said

  • @gbnoonan
    @gbnoonan 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    well done woodsy called it perfectly

  • @adamhearne4832
    @adamhearne4832 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nothing like British TV trying to put the blame on soldiers getting killed to kill 14 civilians who were watching a match

  • @warrenhayes4671
    @warrenhayes4671 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    MURDERED not killed

  • @georgedouglas3930
    @georgedouglas3930 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have the footage of this game?

  • @paddyt4043
    @paddyt4043 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who is the guy at 5.48🤔

  • @seandoran2209
    @seandoran2209 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The lad with the hat, locked up or down..years fly by...@ 5 ish

  • @25pappy
    @25pappy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is that Tom Humphreys at 5:30?

  • @daraspeight357
    @daraspeight357 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    so who won ?

    • @JA-qs1ug
      @JA-qs1ug 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ireland
      Wopped them

  • @brendanmcdonnell7483
    @brendanmcdonnell7483 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It all went well and a bonus (we gave them a hiding)

  • @ayoreilly1603
    @ayoreilly1603 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I come from a republican family. We have lost people throughout the generations, but it's time to let go.

  • @marcphelan9883
    @marcphelan9883 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tom Humpfries ??

  • @45pints87
    @45pints87 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It was 12 murdered not 14 killed

  • @charlieflavin6419
    @charlieflavin6419 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Brits out. I’ll never stand while “god save the queen” is playing.

    • @68iansutton
      @68iansutton 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And that is why people like you will never move on and live with hate in your heart until you die. It’s quite a sad thing considering that the events that happened weren’t the same English people that are alive today. Most English people, such as myself, have strong Irish connections anyway so we see it differently to the English of the past.

    • @joshp5842
      @joshp5842 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@68iansutton If you were Irish, Welsh, or Scottish, you would understand. Yes, it's not the same English people alive today, but we still have the consequences of their actions and have to live with it everyday. Us Welsh get our language mocked everyday by the English, and not as many people speak it as there should be, so I can't imagine how much worse it is for the Irish and Scots where far less speak their language. Our ancestors were treated horribly by the English and we're not just going to forget about it, you should never forget your history.

    • @68iansutton
      @68iansutton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@joshp5842 you can't honestly blame the past for current events. OK so you lost your language, but receive a lot of funding in order to keep it alive and spoken at Welsh schools.
      My point was, people like you can't blame people like me because of past events just because I'm English. Yeah don't forget your past. But instead of living in the past, try and make a better future for your family and all future Welsh generations.

    • @joshp5842
      @joshp5842 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@68iansutton I'm not blaming you, but there are still English people that show hatred to our language. Luckily, the number of Welsh speakers is increasing, but we are still faced with problems, for example second home ownership. We get hate every day from SOME English people, so it's not like all the hate against our language is history

    • @Haryy37732
      @Haryy37732 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And I'd turn my back raise the irish Republican flag and plug my ears,long live the Republic

  • @Trajan2401
    @Trajan2401 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Politics and sport should be kept seperate.

  • @THAIRISH_92
    @THAIRISH_92 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Glad that an entire empire couldn't keep us down, a small island with a small population, their millions weren't able for us. Imagine if we had equal populations...there'd be many soiled English underpants...

  • @Furnitureisfree34
    @Furnitureisfree34 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    British agents and citizens are the same there Shane. One is military, one is cowardly. Chin up there though bud.

    • @benbolger147
      @benbolger147 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wanker. No cowards in Ireland 🇮🇪

  • @neillanda1268
    @neillanda1268 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Unlike 29 who died in Omagh for fuck all

    • @benbolger147
      @benbolger147 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Plenty died on the republican side as well for nothing.

  • @robbrennan8158
    @robbrennan8158 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tom Humphries !!! 🤨

  • @Driver2616
    @Driver2616 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The so called “controversy” surrounding that event was created by and crowed about by the media and all the excessive commentary about it was media driven. If the media hadn’t blown this all out of proportion it would have been just another game....

  • @edyongaro7936
    @edyongaro7936 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    TAL

  • @rebelcounty77
    @rebelcounty77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:40, check that mans phone. A predator at his hunting ground.

  • @therese514
    @therese514 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It shudnt of been played

    • @gabrielleolorunda9134
      @gabrielleolorunda9134 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Therese Kelleher Why not !?!?

    • @Driver2616
      @Driver2616 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Therese Kelleher :”of been”??
      Please, “have been” is the correct way to say this. “Shouldn’t” is the correct spelling. This is not the first time I’ve seen this type of thing. I can’t stand these ill educated comments.

    • @westleighsealy8559
      @westleighsealy8559 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Driver2616 well said !

  • @neillanda1268
    @neillanda1268 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Disband the IRA

    • @neillanda1268
      @neillanda1268 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ireland is more than you or me

    • @RobertK1993
      @RobertK1993 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They did in 2005 .

    • @Irish780
      @Irish780 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dispand trying tp take Ireland 800 years war prove u never will

    • @benis4958
      @benis4958 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Disband the British government

    • @Irish780
      @Irish780 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @alfred telll. Northern Irish union's. We all be free

  • @johnatondownes6373
    @johnatondownes6373 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keith Wood your a bum u should of never of been on the Irish team on todays team u would never of been on it never mind years ago.

    • @donalomathuna8262
      @donalomathuna8262 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      In the early morning rain sung by begley

    • @donalomathuna8262
      @donalomathuna8262 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lyric, in the early morning rain

    • @Driver2616
      @Driver2616 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jonathan, what does the word “of” mean?