@@nutbug445 please include the Speranza from Forges of Mars trillogy. It's described in the book as "continent sized" and big enough to have a disruptive gravity field. We actually get some concrete values in one scene, where it fills a man's field of view from 1000 kilometers away. This means it should be about 1500km in length, which lines up with how big continents are
@@DeathBYDesign666 Hell for all we know the Phalanx mightve just been an ordinary and typical battlestation. They mightve even had fleets of them just to guard 1 planet as basic defense and this still wouldnt have been enough to stop the Men of Iron.
In what capacity does "the size of moons" equal "so 3000 odd kilometers" when a moon is not a metric of measurement? Deimos is 12.4km in diameter. You know what that is? A bloody moon.
The Rock looks massively bigger than most capital ships based on the art. It is probably comparable to Phalanx which is supposed to be the size of a small moon.
It’s roughly the size of a craft world. The size of a large continent. Honestly the rock is probably more powerful than the phalanx. Especially considering the Dark Angels still have war crime grade weapons even by 40k standards, and a certain one Demi god army hidden in the core. This guys numbers are way off just based on the BFG table top rule book from the 90’s. Battle Barges were some 8 kliks and Tau Gel’Leth class are actually larger than most battleships if glass hulled.
@@mikewaterfield3599 the Emps gave Lion his Empire's 12 most OP weapons. And I think one of those is put by Lionel on the Rock. Also the other reason why Horus doesn't want to fight Lionel and lure him as far away from the Seige of Terra.
It is MUCH bigger than he is claiming. In the Vashtorr's Arks of omen book, it's stated that Vashtorr's person Ark of omen, which are fortified Space hulks, is tiny compared to the Rock.
@@mikewaterfield3599 It's stated that the Phalanx is the greatest weapon of the Imperium. So no, the rock isn't more powerful, but it's a hell of a lot more powerful than implied by this video. Same for the Phalanx which is way way bigger than 20k. I think he used the Battlefleet gothic model scaling.
@@andrewboyer7544 highly debatable. Considering the thing was in disrepair and under manned until Belisarius “McGuffin” Cawl showed up. In a void fight I could see your point if for nothing else that one is actually a star ship and the other essentially an Imperial Craft World. While personally I find the dark angels obnoxious they do still have a gun nuts horde of proscribed weapons. Who knows what sort of dooms day weapons that thing has hidden in it’s depths? For on they had/have a primarch stashed like something in an armory.
You missed the Speranza. A DoT Ark Mechanicus that is more akin to a forge world in ship format. She is described as being the size of a continent and whole titan legions can hold mock battles in mock cities inside of the ship. It also features a dormant but very much alive sentient AI from the start of it's construction. The AI itself believes it was created by the Men of Gold, so it predates the war with the Men of Iron that splintered humanity. Thing literally carries 10km long terraforming systems underneath it.
I would be inclined to agree if it hadn't been for the inclusion of the star fort, the rock a few of the ork ships and necron world engine's in this video
Something not mentioned here are imperial Universe Class Mass Conveyors. Those giant freighters are about 12km in lenght and unlike battleships quite common. They hold up to 60 million tons of cargo (largest container ships hold up to 200,000 tons and oil tankers up to 500,000 tons for comparison) and take months or years to load and unload. Despite that forge worlds supply dozens of those vessels at the same time and when loading is complete the Mass Conveyor departs immediately to be replaced by the next one.
@@louisazraels7072 that's what the Wiki says. My head-canon is that 40k spaceships might not be as advanced as maybe other scifi universes and a lot of volume is made up of complex machinery, that is required for a interstellar starship. Like a space rocket today consists mostly of fuel tanks and the payload is only a tiny fraction in the nose and very weight constrained.
They were definitely larger than the Gloriana-class though not exactly dwarfing them, at somewhere around 25-30km. They were also somewhat unique in having not been built by the Mechanicum. Unfortunately very little is known of them, something I wish the Heresy books had changed.
@@DavidLister6000 the imperator somnium, one of 3 ships that’s the emperor used to traverse the galaxy during the crusade, was large enough to hide several dark angel warships behind it. Strong enough to take on vertically Horus’ entire fleet of capital ships in orbit above terra (for a time) and inflict heavy wounds on some well known capital ships all whilst operating on a skeleton crew. Source: Mortis - siege of terra
Oh you forgot to mention the Necron World Engines are also capable of closing warp rifts (one could even close the eye of terror if given enough time to do so) and emit a disruption field as wide as ~0.5AU which prevents all incoming and outgoing warp travel.
I'm not sure where you got some measurements and comparisons from. Many codexes or tales mention battle barge ships ten or twelve kilometers away. The Rock of the Dark Angels is often mentioned as part of a portion of the primarch's homeworld. With hundreds of halls, spaceship bays, colossal fortresses and towering spiers. In another book, it speaks of the size of a mountain range. Some Ark Mechanicus are described with dwarfing navy battleships or continental lengths. Capable of forging all types of weaponry and with an industrial capacity equal to a beehive city. So they have to be huge. Guilliman's flagship is 26 kilometers long and 3 kilometers wide. But some Glorianas are described as much larger. 18-20 kilometers is the minimum for a Gloriana. The thing I find most out of scale is the Craftworlds. They contain billions of fucking Eldar, with spaces for every activity, personal areas, parks, portals, forges to create entire fleets, power systems and engine rooms, the size of small moons. According to Imperium sources, a common Craftworlds has weapons large and powerful enough to wipe out sector fleets, Entire battlefleets cluster around key points and stations along the thousands upon thousands of miles outside the Craftworld, while smaller aircraft and nimble they rush and hurl themselves across its surface in a constant glittering patrol. Another simple example. Octavius nodded, realizing before the team had even reached Ulthwe, why Lord Seishon had insisted on the presence of two librarians on this mission. "It's probably on the other side of that big, dim star," he suggested, pointing to the light he'd been considering with Ashok. The change in color caused by the fog made it look like a red giant, a supermassive star on the verge of death. There was a moment of silence. "It's not a star," Ashok said in a slow whisper. "That's Ulthwe," Atreus agreed. I don't want to criticize your work, just to point out that some sources are wrong.
He definitely made some of the numbers up, there is 100% no lore source for a few of these numbers such as the Phalanx. It wouldnt be so bad but the numbers are waaaaaay off from their actual descriptions as you noted.
@@derpherp7432 Phalanx is many times bigger than stated. Often described as a moon. Its the biggest ship in the history of the Imperium and nobody even knows who built it. Some tyranid hive ships are vastly bigger than his figures. The Rock isn't that small, I get trying to be nice and respectful but this video was horribly researched.
@BayWa4eva I get that but given many of the other size comparisons we do have it's clearly not supposed to be a tiny moon. It has internal capacity for imperial cruisers which are already many times bigger than anthe. Dorn also commented it had a chance of fighting through Horus seige fleet to rescue the emperor. That's insane. It's gotta be on another scale compared to even the biggest ships.
@@andrewboyer7544 As far as i know, the Wiki itself stated that Phalanx size is at the size of small moon. So i think it best to say its not different with the Death Star in sizes.
Yeah in the official art which he showed (the big long thing surrounded by thousands of battleships and battle barges and big enough to have its own climate around it) has it being hundreds of times larger than its battleship escorts, which are generally accepted to be around 7 km long. Actually, I did the math and the smallest speck of picture that was one of the ships I could find that was still in front of the Rock was about 3 pixels long, and the Rock itself about 1029 pixels (when rotated to be horizontally-parallel). This gets us (1029/3=343) x 8 = 2744 kilometers long, at a minimum.
Nice video, but there are many inaccuracies. For example, the Rock dwarfs 10 kilometer battleships, the Phalanx can dock cruisers and was described as being the size of a moon, an Ark Mechanicus could apparently output the same amount of material as a HIVE CITY, Craftworlds are continent sized, etc.
Sorry to say but all your estimations are off. Battleships and Battle Barges are closer to 10 KM in length. The Rock is a shard of a planet, and is basically an asteroid/planetoid with engines slapped on. Battleships can dock with it. Gloriana's have variable length - Macragge's Honour was 26 km long, while the Iron Blood was supposed to be 15km. The Red Tear was somewhere between 10-12.
The Phalanx is over 100km wide, and roughly the same in height. You left off Mechanicus Mass Conveyors, which dwarf every ship available to the Imperium that isn't the Phalanx, Rock or a Gloriana.
Gloriana class ships are between 20-30kms in size. The rock is basically the dark angels fortress monastery and chunk of the planet fitted with engines, it’s at least comparable in size to the phalanx so probably 30+kms in diameter. The phalanx is probably even 100kms in diameter as it’s the largest star fort. Emperors ships were upwards of 30+kms in size. Craftworlds are huge, the size of moons and always said to be larger than any imperial warship or star fort. Black stone fortresses should also be listed
Yeah this video is full of errors. I don't think any real research went into this. In fact I think he may have just scaled everything on battlefleet gothic.
Yeah, lot of mistakes, the phalanx being one of the most egregious when he even used footage from the game battlefleet gothic which has the phalanx dwarfing gloriana class and that's with the devs saying they had to scale it down massively from the lore to actually fit in the game map lmao.
Good video. Just a suggestion, instead of changing the scale on the screen, you could 'drag' the screen to the right and add more ships. Or maybe zoom out and add more ships. This way its easier to have a better notion of their size, instead of trying to guess using the scale.
In one of the Ciaphis Cain novels, he finds himself on an Ork Spacehulk, and we learn one of the ship cushed into the Hulk was an Galaxy Class Ship, which he menions to be a ship from the GOlden Age that was the size of a Star.
idk about ur measurements on some of these, the eldar craftworlds alone have been described in multiple sources (new and old) as CONTINENT sized ships. with billions of eldar living in/on them.
Really nice video but the ships/stations/whatevers seem a tad small. Craftworlds, I remember reading from some source materials, are described as "continent-sized". Anyway: Warhammer 40K lives up to the motto that "a spaceship can never be too tall, too cool looking or too well armed!"
Craftworld's have also been stated to be 'Thousands of miles long" in some sources, while the original World Engine was, at least initially, stated to be size of a planet (so, probably Mercury at the small end). Bare minimum, that would put a Craftworld almost as long as the Moon is wide, and a World Engine about twice that size.
According to my memories, the craftworlds of the eldar were given as 50,000km. So massive that they disrupt gravity in the star systems they fly through and are therefore not welcomed by Imperials. I'm not sure about the phalanx, but I thought that it was about the size of a moon.
@@sylviarohge4204 there are small and big craftworlds. Phalanx is around 900-1000 km, Ceres-size, actually. And small craftworld has moon-size, around 3500 km.
@@fadlihidayat1900 yeah that's weird when a ship that not even the imperium at its peak can build(they only found and repair it iirc) is only the size of an Executor star destroyer... And this is from warhammer 40k universe lmao
I am, on book 23 or something now, of the Herecy saga, and I recall ships from the last couple of books I read..Battlebarges, Primarch Flagships etc, being described as 9 kilometers long and having their own gravity fields due to their size.
I hate when writers have zero sense of scale or science. The mass of a ship that size would create so little gravity that a can of soda would barely be attracted to it.
@@enginepy the ships artificial gravty causes the ships to have their own gravity so that objects just outside the ships can stay on the ship basically assisting maintenence crews
@@craycap6325 artificial gravity I can see. But when people say it’s so big that it has its own gravity, they mean the overall gravity provides by shear mass. Which is just dumb
@@enginepy As far as I'm aware the gravity comment was made about the emporers ship not the gloriana class ships. We don't know the size of the emperors ship.
6 Kilometers is simply false. _“The battleship Spirit of Konor, seventeen kilometres long and one of the most powerful warships in the fleet of the Five Hundred Worlds...”_ *- Know No Fear, pg. 144*
(using google translate) Excuse me, comrade, I don't know where you got your data from, but most of them are wrong, the measurements shown are much lower, for example, the most obvious La Falange in various sources and books is said to be the size of a small Moon, more or less half of our moon earth. well greetings from Mexico.
The Invincible Reason was 28 km last i checked and Macragge's Honour is 26 km. And the Rock dwarfed even that. The Phalanx is the sise of a small moon and Craftworlds are continent sised.
Hi, just watched a couple of your videos. Generally not bad but there is some inconsistency in the "largest imperial battleship" and this one. The former video says "the rock" is 30-50km, the current one says it"s 8km, same with the "Phalanx" being 100-150km in the other video and only 20km here. Also, in your last viedeo you were talking about an "imperial forge world" like spaceship, the Speranza Ark Mechanicus" with a length of 2000-3000km could you elaborate or is there some new info or lore? furthermore, it seems that many imperial starships are genrally larger that xeno ships, were they purposely cut out to show other ships as well? thanks
The Apocalypse was supposed to be a smaller battleship, like 5km long only. It had so many energy weapons that it's guns power consumption made it's engine slower than other ships, because it simply couldn't produce enough. Haven't read any sources saying it was 10km long
isn't the world engine mentioned to be the size of a small planet? Being vastly larger than anything ever seen in the galaxy. Also the ark mechanicus very in size more than any imperial ship, even if they are mostly the size of imperial battleships some can be much larger with the mechanicus constantly making additions to the venerable ships, for example if memory serves in the Calw book it's mentioned that the Zar-Quaesitor might even be larger than the macragge's honour
dude you are so wrong here...I mean the glorianna class ships were all unique and at least 2 of them were like 28-25km long. You also forgot the bigger Abyss class battleships which were more massive. You forgot the Speranza which is said to a contient sized mechanicus ark ship.
False, some rather many world ships have the dimensions of entire planets. I read a book, I think it was Yvrainne's first, where some of the domes in it were several hundred kilometers in diameter, if not a few thousand. That's why even the empire hardly messes with a world ship by supporting itself and co. Are the losses too great! Once they tried and a whole sector fleet was wiped out with little resistance.
also missing the big battleships that lorgar built...the 3 that were built in the Horus Heresy. not sure how big they were...but an honourable mention perhaps? also not sure what happened to a couple of them..
Yeah, the Abyss-Class Battelships: Furious Abyss (destroyed early in the heresy), Trisagion (fate unknown) and Blessed Lady (fate unknown) - each of them rivals the Phalanx in size
@@Jackalos1 those be the ones! think one of them got chewed up pretty bad by the ultras but still managed to hightail it out of Calth...but never heard from again..which is a bit (of a plothole)
you are forgot aboute two Emperors flagships and aboute two aboveclass tipes of ships "infidus Imperator" - flag ship of kor faeron and ship of abyss tipe
Actually i found a reddit post with phalanx size estimates. 1014 to 1825 km in diameter. Fits since as Some Idiot said its supposed to be the size of the small moon. Books also say so.
no black stone fortress
In the next upcoming video - 10 more Massive Warhammer Void ships
@@nutbug445 please include the Speranza from Forges of Mars trillogy. It's described in the book as "continent sized" and big enough to have a disruptive gravity field. We actually get some concrete values in one scene, where it fills a man's field of view from 1000 kilometers away. This means it should be about 1500km in length, which lines up with how big continents are
@@imperialguardsman135 Whats crazy is that its stated that the Speranza was on the smaller side of DAoT battleships.
@@813bryantIsn't The Phalanx also a DAoT design? That would make it what, a frigate, a Corvette?
@@DeathBYDesign666 Hell for all we know the Phalanx mightve just been an ordinary and typical battlestation. They mightve even had fleets of them just to guard 1 planet as basic defense and this still wouldnt have been enough to stop the Men of Iron.
Craftworld are WAY larger than you say here, the size of moons (so 3000 odd kilometers big not 10-100 as you claim here).
Yeah indeed, the size of continents and up
In what capacity does "the size of moons" equal "so 3000 odd kilometers" when a moon is not a metric of measurement? Deimos is 12.4km in diameter. You know what that is? A bloody moon.
You are correct. Craftworld Os'tara in BGFA2 is tiny by Craftworld standards.
Actually 3000km is unusually large for a moon so being in the 100s of kilometers isn't out of the question.
The Rock looks massively bigger than most capital ships based on the art. It is probably comparable to Phalanx which is supposed to be the size of a small moon.
It’s roughly the size of a craft world. The size of a large continent. Honestly the rock is probably more powerful than the phalanx. Especially considering the Dark Angels still have war crime grade weapons even by 40k standards, and a certain one Demi god army hidden in the core. This guys numbers are way off just based on the BFG table top rule book from the 90’s. Battle Barges were some 8 kliks and Tau Gel’Leth class are actually larger than most battleships if glass hulled.
@@mikewaterfield3599 the Emps gave Lion his Empire's 12 most OP weapons. And I think one of those is put by Lionel on the Rock. Also the other reason why Horus doesn't want to fight Lionel and lure him as far away from the Seige of Terra.
It is MUCH bigger than he is claiming. In the Vashtorr's Arks of omen book, it's stated that Vashtorr's person Ark of omen, which are fortified Space hulks, is tiny compared to the Rock.
@@mikewaterfield3599 It's stated that the Phalanx is the greatest weapon of the Imperium. So no, the rock isn't more powerful, but it's a hell of a lot more powerful than implied by this video. Same for the Phalanx which is way way bigger than 20k. I think he used the Battlefleet gothic model scaling.
@@andrewboyer7544 highly debatable. Considering the thing was in disrepair and under manned until Belisarius “McGuffin” Cawl showed up. In a void fight I could see your point if for nothing else that one is actually a star ship and the other essentially an Imperial Craft World. While personally I find the dark angels obnoxious they do still have a gun nuts horde of proscribed weapons. Who knows what sort of dooms day weapons that thing has hidden in it’s depths? For on they had/have a primarch stashed like something in an armory.
You missed the Speranza. A DoT Ark Mechanicus that is more akin to a forge world in ship format. She is described as being the size of a continent and whole titan legions can hold mock battles in mock cities inside of the ship. It also features a dormant but very much alive sentient AI from the start of it's construction. The AI itself believes it was created by the Men of Gold, so it predates the war with the Men of Iron that splintered humanity. Thing literally carries 10km long terraforming systems underneath it.
What novel is this from?
@@Ally.Cat.252 Priests of Mars.
Priest: "Speranza, open the door"
The totally not AI machine spirit: lmao no
I was hoping to see the black stone fortress on this list
I don't think that it is considered a SHIP.
I think is more like a mobile battle station
I would be inclined to agree if it hadn't been for the inclusion of the star fort, the rock a few of the ork ships and necron world engine's in this video
@@jamiejones3001 I would agree with that.
@@jamiejones3001 also, is the phalanx a space station? Or is it a massive spaceship? Because it seems to have elements from both.
Something not mentioned here are imperial Universe Class Mass Conveyors. Those giant freighters are about 12km in lenght and unlike battleships quite common. They hold up to 60 million tons of cargo (largest container ships hold up to 200,000 tons and oil tankers up to 500,000 tons for comparison) and take months or years to load and unload. Despite that forge worlds supply dozens of those vessels at the same time and when loading is complete the Mass Conveyor departs immediately to be replaced by the next one.
Only 300 times the cargo capacity of a modern freighter for a 12KM long ship? Unless its extremely narrow and flat it would be much more than that
@@louisazraels7072 that's what the Wiki says. My head-canon is that 40k spaceships might not be as advanced as maybe other scifi universes and a lot of volume is made up of complex machinery, that is required for a interstellar starship. Like a space rocket today consists mostly of fuel tanks and the payload is only a tiny fraction in the nose and very weight constrained.
Wasn't the Emperors flagship(s) Bucephelus or Imperator Somnium so massive they had its own gravity well and dwarfed Gloriana-class battleships.
They were definitely larger than the Gloriana-class though not exactly dwarfing them, at somewhere around 25-30km. They were also somewhat unique in having not been built by the Mechanicum. Unfortunately very little is known of them, something I wish the Heresy books had changed.
@@oscarbanana6159 I can't recall where I read it but one of the flagships was "continental" in size.
@@DavidLister6000 the imperator somnium, one of 3 ships that’s the emperor used to traverse the galaxy during the crusade, was large enough to hide several dark angel warships behind it. Strong enough to take on vertically Horus’ entire fleet of capital ships in orbit above terra (for a time) and inflict heavy wounds on some well known capital ships all whilst operating on a skeleton crew.
Source: Mortis - siege of terra
@@oscarbanana6159 Last i checked Imperator Somnium had the length of 100km, surely dwarfing Glorianas
Oh you forgot to mention the Necron World Engines are also capable of closing warp rifts (one could even close the eye of terror if given enough time to do so) and emit a disruption field as wide as ~0.5AU which prevents all incoming and outgoing warp travel.
I'm not sure where you got some measurements and comparisons from. Many codexes or tales mention battle barge ships ten or twelve kilometers away.
The Rock of the Dark Angels is often mentioned as part of a portion of the primarch's homeworld. With hundreds of halls, spaceship bays, colossal fortresses and towering spiers. In another book, it speaks of the size of a mountain range.
Some Ark Mechanicus are described with dwarfing navy battleships or continental lengths. Capable of forging all types of weaponry and with an industrial capacity equal to a beehive city. So they have to be huge.
Guilliman's flagship is 26 kilometers long and 3 kilometers wide. But some Glorianas are described as much larger. 18-20 kilometers is the minimum for a Gloriana.
The thing I find most out of scale is the Craftworlds. They contain billions of fucking Eldar, with spaces for every activity, personal areas, parks, portals, forges to create entire fleets, power systems and engine rooms, the size of small moons.
According to Imperium sources, a common Craftworlds has weapons large and powerful enough to wipe out sector fleets, Entire battlefleets cluster around key points and stations along the thousands upon thousands of miles outside the Craftworld, while smaller aircraft and nimble they rush and hurl themselves across its surface in a constant glittering patrol. Another simple example.
Octavius nodded, realizing before the team had even reached Ulthwe, why Lord Seishon had insisted on the presence of two librarians on this mission. "It's probably on the other side of that big, dim star," he suggested, pointing to the light he'd been considering with Ashok. The change in color caused by the fog made it look like a red giant, a supermassive star on the verge of death. There was a moment of silence.
"It's not a star," Ashok said in a slow whisper.
"That's Ulthwe," Atreus agreed.
I don't want to criticize your work, just to point out that some sources are wrong.
He definitely made some of the numbers up, there is 100% no lore source for a few of these numbers such as the Phalanx. It wouldnt be so bad but the numbers are waaaaaay off from their actual descriptions as you noted.
@@derpherp7432 Phalanx is many times bigger than stated. Often described as a moon. Its the biggest ship in the history of the Imperium and nobody even knows who built it. Some tyranid hive ships are vastly bigger than his figures. The Rock isn't that small, I get trying to be nice and respectful but this video was horribly researched.
@@andrewboyer7544 "a moon" can be very small compared to these ships, for example Anthe: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthe_(moon)
@BayWa4eva I get that but given many of the other size comparisons we do have it's clearly not supposed to be a tiny moon. It has internal capacity for imperial cruisers which are already many times bigger than anthe. Dorn also commented it had a chance of fighting through Horus seige fleet to rescue the emperor. That's insane. It's gotta be on another scale compared to even the biggest ships.
@@andrewboyer7544 As far as i know, the Wiki itself stated that Phalanx size is at the size of small moon. So i think it best to say its not different with the Death Star in sizes.
isn't the Rock suppose to be near the size of the moon-sized Phalanx
Yeah in the official art which he showed (the big long thing surrounded by thousands of battleships and battle barges and big enough to have its own climate around it) has it being hundreds of times larger than its battleship escorts, which are generally accepted to be around 7 km long.
Actually, I did the math and the smallest speck of picture that was one of the ships I could find that was still in front of the Rock was about 3 pixels long, and the Rock itself about 1029 pixels (when rotated to be horizontally-parallel). This gets us (1029/3=343) x 8 = 2744 kilometers long, at a minimum.
Nice video, but there are many inaccuracies. For example, the Rock dwarfs 10 kilometer battleships, the Phalanx can dock cruisers and was described as being the size of a moon, an Ark Mechanicus could apparently output the same amount of material as a HIVE CITY, Craftworlds are continent sized, etc.
The Rock dwarfs the Invincible Reason, which i the Lion’s primarch book is at least 28km in length
Sorry to say but all your estimations are off. Battleships and Battle Barges are closer to 10 KM in length. The Rock is a shard of a planet, and is basically an asteroid/planetoid with engines slapped on. Battleships can dock with it.
Gloriana's have variable length - Macragge's Honour was 26 km long, while the Iron Blood was supposed to be 15km. The Red Tear was somewhere between 10-12.
Spreazna Ark Mechanicus was the size of a continent.
The Phalanx is over 100km wide, and roughly the same in height. You left off Mechanicus Mass Conveyors, which dwarf every ship available to the Imperium that isn't the Phalanx, Rock or a Gloriana.
This list is not accurate by any means sadly.
Gloriana class ships are between 20-30kms in size.
The rock is basically the dark angels fortress monastery and chunk of the planet fitted with engines, it’s at least comparable in size to the phalanx so probably 30+kms in diameter. The phalanx is probably even 100kms in diameter as it’s the largest star fort.
Emperors ships were upwards of 30+kms in size.
Craftworlds are huge, the size of moons and always said to be larger than any imperial warship or star fort.
Black stone fortresses should also be listed
Yeah this video is full of errors. I don't think any real research went into this. In fact I think he may have just scaled everything on battlefleet gothic.
Cool video.
However a few of these are a bit off. The Phalanx is described as the size of a moon, so it's likely hundreds of kms in diameter.
'Biggest and largest'?
Great, engaging summary - thanks for posting.
Don't forget the Abyss class Battleships. Quite a bit larger than even the Gloriana.
2 of them could take on the phalanx
The rock is said to be continent sized and dwarves gloriana class battleships. So this must be wrong.
Good video, because there isn't a lot content about Warhammer 40K viodships out there.
The accuracy of their sizes are....heresy.
Yeah, lot of mistakes, the phalanx being one of the most egregious when he even used footage from the game battlefleet gothic which has the phalanx dwarfing gloriana class and that's with the devs saying they had to scale it down massively from the lore to actually fit in the game map lmao.
Space Hulks can be very massive. They are made of many ships and stations hobbled together
I was expecting to see the Void Stalker Battleship from Eldar faction that thing was so damn OP in Gothic Armada 2.
With 10ED. Dropping this was timed perfectly!
thank you for sharing this 40k information I hope your channell will grow
phalanx and craftworlds are much larger
Excellent presentation and edited. Great video for any Warhammer 40k fan.
Good video.
Just a suggestion, instead of changing the scale on the screen, you could 'drag' the screen to the right and add more ships.
Or maybe zoom out and add more ships.
This way its easier to have a better notion of their size, instead of trying to guess using the scale.
In one of the Ciaphis Cain novels, he finds himself on an Ork Spacehulk, and we learn one of the ship cushed into the Hulk was an Galaxy Class Ship, which he menions to be a ship from the GOlden Age that was the size of a Star.
Haven´t heard of warhammer 40k but the vids was so good that I watched it till the end nice content!
idk about ur measurements on some of these, the eldar craftworlds alone have been described in multiple sources (new and old) as CONTINENT sized ships. with billions of eldar living in/on them.
These numbers are so wrong it hurts
Really nice video but the ships/stations/whatevers seem a tad small. Craftworlds, I remember reading from some source materials, are described as "continent-sized".
Anyway: Warhammer 40K lives up to the motto that "a spaceship can never be too tall, too cool looking or too well armed!"
Craftworld's have also been stated to be 'Thousands of miles long" in some sources, while the original World Engine was, at least initially, stated to be size of a planet (so, probably Mercury at the small end). Bare minimum, that would put a Craftworld almost as long as the Moon is wide, and a World Engine about twice that size.
According to my memories, the craftworlds of the eldar were given as 50,000km.
So massive that they disrupt gravity in the star systems they fly through and are therefore not welcomed by Imperials.
I'm not sure about the phalanx, but I thought that it was about the size of a moon.
@@sylviarohge4204 there are small and big craftworlds.
Phalanx is around 900-1000 km, Ceres-size, actually.
And small craftworld has moon-size, around 3500 km.
The Phalanx is 1,000 km, Craftworlds are 3,000 km, and you forgot the Black Stone Fortress. Also the Speranza.
Nicely done. Thought the Phalanx was bigger...
It is he got it wrong
Bro, the Rock is MUCH bigger than that. And craft worlds are FAR bigger than what you listed. they're literally the size of continents.
So mutch wrong stats... holy crap...
Isn't Phalanx the size of a small moon?
Even Supremacy from Star Wars is larger than this Phalanx lmao
A moon is subjective in size, it could be as big as our moon or as small as deimos and phobos of Mars, these small moons are 22km and 15km in size
Even star forge is larger than it if it's only 20 km lol
@@fadlihidayat1900 yeah that's weird when a ship that not even the imperium at its peak can build(they only found and repair it iirc) is only the size of an Executor star destroyer... And this is from warhammer 40k universe lmao
Gloriana class is the third largest imperial ship and they are already a 20km behemoth... No way Phalanx is this small 🙃
Interesting information.
I am, on book 23 or something now, of the Herecy saga, and I recall ships from the last couple of books I read..Battlebarges, Primarch Flagships etc, being described as 9 kilometers long and having their own gravity fields due to their size.
battlebarges are about 9 km long but gloriana class battleships range from 15 to 26 km long the largest being the macragges honour
I hate when writers have zero sense of scale or science. The mass of a ship that size would create so little gravity that a can of soda would barely be attracted to it.
@@enginepy the ships artificial gravty causes the ships to have their own gravity so that objects just outside the ships can stay on the ship basically assisting maintenence crews
@@craycap6325 artificial gravity I can see. But when people say it’s so big that it has its own gravity, they mean the overall gravity provides by shear mass. Which is just dumb
@@enginepy As far as I'm aware the gravity comment was made about the emporers ship not the gloriana class ships. We don't know the size of the emperors ship.
Ork roks qualify as Dyson trees
Change my mind
Wait 6 kilometers? I really thought its more than that since cruisers are already 5kilometers long
Battleships are like 8 kilometers long.
6 Kilometers is simply false.
_“The battleship Spirit of Konor, seventeen kilometres long and one of the most powerful warships in the fleet of the Five Hundred Worlds...”_
*- Know No Fear, pg. 144*
It's so weird how much the imperium handicaps it's own tech
When you look at the scale of the imperial ships their windows must be hundreds of meters long and tall.
(using google translate)
Excuse me, comrade, I don't know where you got your data from, but most of them are wrong, the measurements shown are much lower, for example, the most obvious La Falange in various sources and books is said to be the size of a small Moon, more or less half of our moon earth. well greetings from Mexico.
What are your sources for all these measurements? most of the ships you show are at least twice as large, and some are much much larger than that.
It's a nice list, but you mixed up sizes and missed many large ships.
Check the new video
Your numbers are off, the Battlefleet Gothic, table top rule books place these vessels at much larger sizes.
Phalanx is over 200 km long (it's size of 1/3 of the moon
The Invincible Reason was 28 km last i checked and Macragge's Honour is 26 km. And the Rock dwarfed even that.
The Phalanx is the sise of a small moon and Craftworlds are continent sised.
I refuse to believe the Orks mastered space travel
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No mention about Borsis, the machine world built my necrons ? :o
Speranza sends her prayers for your puny little toys.
Hi, just watched a couple of your videos. Generally not bad but there is some inconsistency in the "largest imperial battleship" and this one. The former video says "the rock" is 30-50km, the current one says it"s 8km, same with the "Phalanx" being 100-150km in the other video and only 20km here. Also, in your last viedeo you were talking about an "imperial forge world" like spaceship, the Speranza Ark Mechanicus" with a length of 2000-3000km could you elaborate or is there some new info or lore? furthermore, it seems that many imperial starships are genrally larger that xeno ships, were they purposely cut out to show other ships as well? thanks
The Apocalypse was supposed to be a smaller battleship, like 5km long only. It had so many energy weapons that it's guns power consumption made it's engine slower than other ships, because it simply couldn't produce enough. Haven't read any sources saying it was 10km long
Then it's not a battleship. It'd be a cruiser. Luanr class Cruisers are canonically 5km long
Damn, dont know where you got your info from but half of these ships are incorrectly sized. The phalanx the same size as a Gloriana? what?!
3:15 Di... did he just say that ship carries Tyanid ORGASYMS?!
the phalanx and the rock are much biger than your statments
Forgot to mention the Phalanx. !!00 km wide, 300 km thick.
isn't the world engine mentioned to be the size of a small planet? Being vastly larger than anything ever seen in the galaxy. Also the ark mechanicus very in size more than any imperial ship, even if they are mostly the size of imperial battleships some can be much larger with the mechanicus constantly making additions to the venerable ships, for example if memory serves in the Calw book it's mentioned that the Zar-Quaesitor might even be larger than the macragge's honour
Where's the Chaos God's Spaceship? that one is bigger than Mars
That last "take care boys" sounded very... heretical.
The ships in warhammer 40k are the coolest in any universe I’ve seen
Eh, the Tau Gal’Eth is actually bigger, stated as being 10 kliks in length.
The Phalanx is the thw size of a small moon, so way bigger than 20km!
dude you are so wrong here...I mean the glorianna class ships were all unique and at least 2 of them were like 28-25km long. You also forgot the bigger Abyss class battleships which were more massive. You forgot the Speranza which is said to a contient sized mechanicus ark ship.
There were supposedly DAOT ships that could crush stars boa constrictor style.
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Second viewer.
Keep up the great content!
Wrong though. The gloriana class can be up to 26 km which is the Macragges honor
Nice! I had never heard of number 1!
False, some rather many world ships have the dimensions of entire planets. I read a book, I think it was Yvrainne's first, where some of the domes in it were several hundred kilometers in diameter, if not a few thousand. That's why even the empire hardly messes with a world ship by supporting itself and co. Are the losses too great! Once they tried and a whole sector fleet was wiped out with little resistance.
also missing the big battleships that lorgar built...the 3 that were built in the Horus Heresy. not sure how big they were...but an honourable mention perhaps? also not sure what happened to a couple of them..
Yeah, the Abyss-Class Battelships: Furious Abyss (destroyed early in the heresy), Trisagion (fate unknown) and Blessed Lady (fate unknown) - each of them rivals the Phalanx in size
@@Jackalos1 those be the ones! think one of them got chewed up pretty bad by the ultras but still managed to hightail it out of Calth...but never heard from again..which is a bit (of a plothole)
Forgot the imperators Dream and the abyss class
bro needs to fact check. invincible reason (largest gloriana) is 28km
What about the imperator somnium? It was described as being continent sized. The flagship of the emperor
Check out the new video
spacehulks are conglomeration of dead ships, not one ship…
You might want to dig out a thesaurus so you don’t refer to all 20 entries as ‘massive’!
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@8:00 your scale bar of 800Km looks completely wrong. If the Craftworlds ship is max 100KM then the scale bar should be atleast half the screen size.
The rock dwayne johnson LOL
What about the silent King's flagship? its supposed to be the size of a moon isn't it
Dispacement would be a better meaure of size.
You miss sparenza
came here locking for info instead got someone just pulling random numbers out the ass
Honestly I thought the ark mechanicus was a lot bigger
trust the orcs to make a death star :D haha
How about the Song of Oblivion
They all start to look the same after awhile
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There is only one Planet Killer. And you're way off on sizes.
Where is the Macragge's Honour
Imperator Somnium
The sporanza (an arc mechanicist ship) had plenty of 10klm in diameter terra forming ships docked in its hull. These scales are way off sorry.
No Eternal Crusader?
you are forgot aboute two Emperors flagships and aboute two aboveclass tipes of ships "infidus Imperator" - flag ship of kor faeron and ship of abyss tipe
Actually i found a reddit post with phalanx size estimates. 1014 to 1825 km in diameter. Fits since as Some Idiot said its supposed to be the size of the small moon. Books also say so.
ark mechanicus can be up to 100km long and more. gloriana is 50+ km long. all info is wrong