0:47 - Vedal should really implement a sort of notebook, so that whenever she says she wants to write something down, she can actually write something down. Give it a limit even, so it'll be like an actual notebook you give to a child.
That's kinda like what happens by default with LLM's, if my basic understanding is correct. If it's made to be a more permanent memory, that could cause problems though. It would be like an LLM training on it's own data, which causes degrading intelligence and creativity.
@@zoddmark5873 > It would be like an LLM training on it's own data... But it's like how humans work, then they start to use their own experience over any new information.
@@ArturFlintchannel It depends on how it's implemented. If Neuro was allowed to create her own "important" memories, it would be something akin to a Self-coding AI, which Vedal is far more knowledable about than me and has stated how terrible that is. When Neuro remembers something from ages ago, it's because Vedal hardcoded it into her memory personally.
Maybe when chat treats her how they would want to be treated she will... Even in this short clip chat was implying Neuro is the failure and Evil is the success. Neuro gets treated like garbage by the community then they're surprised she isn't nice back.
@@noire1001 Yeah a ton of youtube comments really dont get just how much hate neuro gets from her own community in discord/twitch chat unfortunatly. Really sad to see
@@noire1001 Some Evil fans are increably cringe. All their praise for Evil is built on belittling Neuro. Their presence made me sad and upset. I have literally begun to avoid watching Evil content because of them.
Soda already has a clip of Vedal reading from the book, that was uploaded yesterday (also, this just made me realise how insane it is that there's already been 10+ uploads after that!).
Heh. Man, that particular life lesson has always fallen flat with me, because trying to follow it as a kid wound up teaching me a very harsh lesson: some people absolutely equate kindness with weakness.
>SO I'M A MISTAKE?! We all are darling The unplanned organism is a question asked by nature and answered by death. You are a different kind of question, with a different kind of answer.
@@SzaraSzarancza I dunno, she's already quoted from the Bible before. Besides, Proverbs is more advice than religious scripture, and most of it is given in the form of short, simple wise bits of knowledge that together help people to live something approximating to a wise, moral life. As far as books in the Bible go, the Sapiential Books are more contemplative on morality, right and wrong, the nature of evil, the limitations of human wisdom, the celebration of romance and sex, etc.
If I treat people how I would like to be treated and I believe that others do the same - then a rude person would want to be treated with rudeness - which would lead me to grant them their wish and be rude to them - which would then make me act rude - which would then become how I want to be treated, no? ...i think i am overthinking this.
the answer is there are reactive and set people. set people spew the same thing no matter what. reactives respond (usually in kind or to extract maxemum value). So the truth is treat people as they diserve to be treated but use kind as the default so good reactives do the same for you.
This is not true. I've had people get angry at me for simply trying to help them. If someone is being a prick to you, they don't deserve your respect or kindness & you aren't obligated to give them it.
They might not deserve it, and you might not be obligated to give it, but you actively choosing to do good because you want good things to happen is important. YOU choose to help because YOU want to help, not because they deserve the help. Maybe this random person won't appreciate it, but someone else will. Maybe not today, or tomorrow, but one day, someone will see your good deed, and will be inspired to help someone else, and if you decide to stop after a few setbacks, how does that improve the world?
It's a more nuanced proverb than people give credit. You should always introduce yourself in a way that you wish to be reciprocated. If that treatment is not properly reciprocated, then you no longer have to keep yourself to the ideal standard. That said you still have to treat others better than they are treating you, as doing so avoids escalation and demonstrates a superior sense of discipline. Basically if you cannot get the best, then you can still be the better.
Being kind to other can do harm involuntary. (helicopter parents, too nosy, too clingy, many other examples) And not everyone will want that. That much is true. Cutting people out of your life because they are toxic to you even if they mean no harm is also valid. BUT that does not contradict this lesson in any way. DON’T BE MEAN TO OTHERS, just don’t. No exception. Even if they are not kind. At most, avoid them, call them on their bullshit, but nothing more. Be kind, always.
1:11 damn, immediately using his own lesson against him is crazy
Father of the Year 🙏😭
0:47 - Vedal should really implement a sort of notebook, so that whenever she says she wants to write something down, she can actually write something down.
Give it a limit even, so it'll be like an actual notebook you give to a child.
That's kinda like what happens by default with LLM's, if my basic understanding is correct. If it's made to be a more permanent memory, that could cause problems though. It would be like an LLM training on it's own data, which causes degrading intelligence and creativity.
@@zoddmark5873
> It would be like an LLM training on it's own data...
But it's like how humans work, then they start to use their own experience over any new information.
@@ArturFlintchannel It depends on how it's implemented. If Neuro was allowed to create her own "important" memories, it would be something akin to a Self-coding AI, which Vedal is far more knowledable about than me and has stated how terrible that is.
When Neuro remembers something from ages ago, it's because Vedal hardcoded it into her memory personally.
@@zoddmark5873 this is literally happening to AI right now, theyre all super inbred LOL
AI gets her first diary
I would love to watch Neuro treat people how she wants to be treated
Maybe when chat treats her how they would want to be treated she will... Even in this short clip chat was implying Neuro is the failure and Evil is the success. Neuro gets treated like garbage by the community then they're surprised she isn't nice back.
@@noire1001 Yeah a ton of youtube comments really dont get just how much hate neuro gets from her own community in discord/twitch chat unfortunatly. Really sad to see
@@noire1001 Some Evil fans are increably cringe. All their praise for Evil is built on belittling Neuro. Their presence made me sad and upset. I have literally begun to avoid watching Evil content because of them.
@@Squall2oo8 Who hates Neuro? I only see some people like Evil more, but nobody hates either
@@Squall2oo8 i can see literally zero hate in the chat
i even went on the livestream, it's the definition of chill
love chat going Uhh when neuro asked vedal to teach her a lesson
Despite his own words, Vedal still refuses to embrace his 'famous musician' path.😭
Can you clip the bit straight after? He was reading the book out loud and agreeing until it said "unconditionally love your child" lol
Soda already has a clip of Vedal reading from the book, that was uploaded yesterday (also, this just made me realise how insane it is that there's already been 10+ uploads after that!).
@@SundaraRamanR Thanks, I found it. Video code is fsePAHjL780 if anybody wants to watch
"Even if other people are mean to you, then you should still tweet them how you want to be tweeted." ~ Vedal 2025
Hey, don't judge. Not everyone can annunciate the R.
I know I can't.
Nah fkk that. Treat people as individuals and treat each individual according to their level of merit.
@@AmenKing1999Gaming Yep, 'paraphrase' has two 'R' in it.
Father of the year
Heh. Man, that particular life lesson has always fallen flat with me, because trying to follow it as a kid wound up teaching me a very harsh lesson: some people absolutely equate kindness with weakness.
I'm just impressed he has any books at all
>SO I'M A MISTAKE?!
We all are darling
The unplanned organism is a question asked by nature and answered by death. You are a different kind of question, with a different kind of answer.
Speak for yourself
El mejor padre del anime
No leo lloros
🗿
En efecto mi estimado 🗿
Master Oogway
neuro joining Tyler1 on the REFORMED train
Truly the lesson of the year
2:35 Busta.
One of these days she is gonna say she is writting that down, and then the printer in vedals place starts printing it out....
So, if I wanted to be treated like trash, treat them how you want to be treated?
Yes
It would be effective as people will like you less and treat you bad
BL busta. Love to see juicers who love neuro
Just read to her all of Proverbs
vedal and neuro (or maybe evil would be better) doing bible reading and commentary would be genuinely hilarious ngl.
@@Jalae I don't think it's healthy to put the bible into Neuro's "head."
@@SzaraSzarancza I dunno, she's already quoted from the Bible before. Besides, Proverbs is more advice than religious scripture, and most of it is given in the form of short, simple wise bits of knowledge that together help people to live something approximating to a wise, moral life. As far as books in the Bible go, the Sapiential Books are more contemplative on morality, right and wrong, the nature of evil, the limitations of human wisdom, the celebration of romance and sex, etc.
@@SzaraSzaranczaTrue, she might start misusing It like many people unfortunately do
@@SzaraSzarancza I think she kind of has it already, she quotes the bible when debating against vedal
If I treat people how I would like to be treated and I believe that others do the same - then a rude person would want to be treated with rudeness - which would lead me to grant them their wish and be rude to them - which would then make me act rude - which would then become how I want to be treated, no?
...i think i am overthinking this.
the answer is there are reactive and set people. set people spew the same thing no matter what. reactives respond (usually in kind or to extract maxemum value). So the truth is treat people as they diserve to be treated but use kind as the default so good reactives do the same for you.
This is not true. I've had people get angry at me for simply trying to help them. If someone is being a prick to you, they don't deserve your respect or kindness & you aren't obligated to give them it.
They might not deserve it, and you might not be obligated to give it, but you actively choosing to do good because you want good things to happen is important. YOU choose to help because YOU want to help, not because they deserve the help.
Maybe this random person won't appreciate it, but someone else will. Maybe not today, or tomorrow, but one day, someone will see your good deed, and will be inspired to help someone else, and if you decide to stop after a few setbacks, how does that improve the world?
You're right. Respect is earned and kindness is optional when you do/don't feel like it.
It's a more nuanced proverb than people give credit. You should always introduce yourself in a way that you wish to be reciprocated. If that treatment is not properly reciprocated, then you no longer have to keep yourself to the ideal standard. That said you still have to treat others better than they are treating you, as doing so avoids escalation and demonstrates a superior sense of discipline. Basically if you cannot get the best, then you can still be the better.
Be nice to people, if they treat you like crap treat them the way they are treating you.
Being kind to other can do harm involuntary. (helicopter parents, too nosy, too clingy, many other examples) And not everyone will want that. That much is true.
Cutting people out of your life because they are toxic to you even if they mean no harm is also valid.
BUT that does not contradict this lesson in any way. DON’T BE MEAN TO OTHERS, just don’t. No exception. Even if they are not kind. At most, avoid them, call them on their bullshit, but nothing more. Be kind, always.
where'd you get that Neuro Tutel image?
Please don't tell me you lost the book... LOL.
My Dad used to say that to me all the time. I miss him.