It works even better for me because while it's probably a made up etymology, linguistically I've always thought of the word grappling like so: Grab + Grip = Grap... doing grap = grappling.
And he milked it as hard as he could. As he well should. Eli Knight is one of the finest grabby dudes out there, preaching some impressively fine grabby techniques.
The headlock and a crapy gilotine attempt is the most common things you see in these street fight videos and it always ends With them being slamed on their heads
The problem in defending headlock, at least watching children arguing out of the school, is when the headlocker do it with the intention of taking down the other guy. If the posture is compromised, by an ambush attack or because the headlocker is much bigger, is very difficult to defend. You have to go to the ground and defend from there.
I think that's one of the big reasons why there are so many headlock defenses in jujitsu. Not only is it something that's pretty easy to defeat if you have the technical knowledge to do it, but it is also a much better option for someone who has a huge weight advantage than for someone who doesn't. This means that most of the time if you're in the traditional jujitsu assumed scenario where you're fighting someone who can outmuscle you if you're not technical enough, then the headlock seems like a good option for them, comes up quite often, and can often lead to you being taken down. With the amount of practice that you get in most jujitsu classes, however, being taken down while the other guy has you in a headlock is a lot better than a lot of your other options and actually leaves you in a decent position with a good plan for how to deal with it most of the time.
I've been doing jiu jitsu for two weeks, practicing at a Gracie University Certified Training Center and we've already done so many headlock escapes. The takedown at 3:59? That was literally the second thing I learned. Everything after that I've already learned too. Which is wild. I've taken 7 classes. How much can you learn in 7 classes? Apparently a decent amount.
Right on. People are obsessed now with grabbing and holding, locking - due to a misunderstanding of how and when to effectively implement BJJ trchniques
I had a friend, well "friend", who was a huge douche who couldn't fight. He got suplexed on concrete because he wouldn't let go of a headlock, thankfully I didn't watch a man die only break his shoulder in 2 places, get the wind knocked out of him and slip a disk. He refused to let go because he had "better position".
I was sparring Muay Thai with a friend wrestler, while clinching I fed my head forward and he had put me in something like a headlock I postured up and he was lifted off of the ground, mind you he is bigger and much stronger than I am I am a better kickboxer but he is also generally better in the clinch so it was a pretty interesting exchanged
YUP...I always said that you would think the headlock was deadliest move on the planet judging by the number of escapes for it you can find on TH-cam. Another great video, keep up the good work.
The head control on the way to getting the headlock gives you tons of options: throw, take the back, hold and knee. Then you get the headlock and kind of end up with nothing. Like so many other positions, our instincts are good for the first step but the "default" things that happen when you don't know what to do with the advantage you've gained suck.
@Lawng Jawn Thanks I appreciate you trying to help me but this comment was a joke. When it comes to sparring I rarely even see headlocks let alone transitions into clinching after but it does seem like an interesting option if you're stuck in this position.
i learned fighting from the old western films so i use primarily wide sweeping hooks, double axe-hands, and the good ol' fashioned half nelson headlock, shoot!
@Paul Singer so, that first reply from knight jiu-jitsu is the other guy in this video. Also, Mike doesn't claim to be an expert, in fact he claims specifically not to be an expert repeatedly in this video. I just expected that as a non-expert he wouldn't be nearly as familiar with the exceptions where headlocks could be a good idea {period} there are some specifically trained headlocks that are a great idea {comma} but the normal instinctual headlock tends to be a bad idea {period} there are some exceptions to that one as well, but they are few and far between. In a general sense, telling people to stop doing headlocks is probably good fighting advice the majority of the time. you are likely correct about the people he hasn't trained with and about some of the places where headlocks can be a really good idea, but for the most part anyone fighting Josh Barnett and getting advice from these videos is just going to get beat up. On the other hand, almost anyone just watching this videos would lose a fight to Mike as well. Most of us don't train nearly enough to be competition for mike, let alone competition for the many many people who are better than him in a fight.
You're not likely to get to a bulldog choke from a headlock unless the guy turns away from you for some strange reason. If you're thinking of the Ben askren fight , you'll notice he gets to the choke from a rear-naked position.
you could use that "bad" instinct, in that position i thought in koshi guruma (the judo throw), but you have to change the stance to do it, the natural stance in tha bad reaction is no good.
I've accidentally done it while rolling. I typically know right away "oh shit, I dont want this." But sometimes it's hard to let go, or in one case that happened, I rolled with a guy less experienced than me, and he shockingly managed to get a spinal twist because I had that shitty headlock. It started as a legit hold, but he worked into the other one. Was pretty neat how it happened. Took both of us by surprise. Lol.
Headlocks are awesome! I love it when someone tries to get me in one. I am seriously getting chub thinking about it. The openings they are giving you are amazing. My personal favorite response involves a fall with my elbow in their floating ribs. They cushion me, and I drive 230lbs of gravity reinforced, very directed energy into a weak spot in their ribcage. It is just so funny watching them try to breath afterwards.
I don’t honestly know if I’m in the position to Setup a head lock I’m also normally in the position for a guillotine choke. Never really been a fan of head locks unless it’s a neck crank
I am one of those grabby dudes. If save me one time when I was losing big time with strikes on the streets, I had to go to my BJJ and ground game and I was able to walk away with little damage
I have found myself there once bouncing and I transitioned to a neck crank which was not the best choice for the guy. I should have let go, I have always wondered if that guy was ok. I'll take your advice and let go next time.
Yes a head lock like that is really stupid I remember one time I was in a fight and someone did that to me back then I didn't even know about MMA and grappling but I still knew what he did was very stupid so I just grabbed him by the waist lifted him up and leaned back dropped him on his head KO'D him
Mike I would like to say how I enjoy your videos and ask you 2 questions. First would you rather have a decent flashlight for self defence during day and confronting many attackers or the buckler. If you chose one which would it be?? Secondly, I saw a small sized flashlight that has 25000 lumens would you recommend this(doesn't have teeth) for day self defence. I am thinking of buying this to? Thanks for your help!!
I had an Internet comment Warrior tell me jujitsu was the best martial art to defend yourself on the street and I said he’s right if he focused on the parts that specialize in getting you back to your feet. He called me a virgin
@@doaimanariroll5121 I’m referring to more of the hip throw. When I first started wrestling I trained with a guy who used it on me all the time, but I think he only landed it because he outweighed me by a good twenty pounds, and also I sucked at wrestling.
@@tprnbs True but experience and practice beats theory. If u can go into headlock and actually fallow up on it as they demonstrated its not a bad thing 2 do. Its just the fact that he says instincts are stupid is dumb on the fact that fighting is based on instincts.
JUST STAND UP!!! I could do it better than that professional! ALL I SEE IS RED!! man when i get into a fight i just black out and no one can stop me. I know need to know how to fight, i can bench 225! Id just go to the body!
Question for Viewers: Are you subscribed to Eli? Go watch Eli's headlock escape videos: th-cam.com/video/crso9qJv_UI/w-d-xo.html
Yes!
Yepp
I am! I was like "Mike and Eli collab? Cool!"
"He's one of those grabby dudes". This has to be my favorite line from the video
Same
It works even better for me because while it's probably a made up etymology, linguistically I've always thought of the word grappling like so:
Grab + Grip = Grap... doing grap = grappling.
And he milked it as hard as he could.
As he well should.
Eli Knight is one of the finest grabby dudes out there, preaching some impressively fine grabby techniques.
"One of these grabby dudes."-Icy Mike 2020.
But Icy...it was so effective when I was 8 years old!!!!
The headlock and a crapy gilotine attempt is the most common things you see in these street fight videos and it always ends With them being slamed on their heads
I love when these two guys get together to do videos!!
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“Grabby grappley”
The problem in defending headlock, at least watching children arguing out of the school, is when the headlocker do it with the intention of taking down the other guy. If the posture is compromised, by an ambush attack or because the headlocker is much bigger, is very difficult to defend. You have to go to the ground and defend from there.
I think that's one of the big reasons why there are so many headlock defenses in jujitsu. Not only is it something that's pretty easy to defeat if you have the technical knowledge to do it, but it is also a much better option for someone who has a huge weight advantage than for someone who doesn't. This means that most of the time if you're in the traditional jujitsu assumed scenario where you're fighting someone who can outmuscle you if you're not technical enough, then the headlock seems like a good option for them, comes up quite often, and can often lead to you being taken down. With the amount of practice that you get in most jujitsu classes, however, being taken down while the other guy has you in a headlock is a lot better than a lot of your other options and actually leaves you in a decent position with a good plan for how to deal with it most of the time.
I've been doing jiu jitsu for two weeks, practicing at a Gracie University Certified Training Center and we've already done so many headlock escapes. The takedown at 3:59? That was literally the second thing I learned. Everything after that I've already learned too. Which is wild. I've taken 7 classes. How much can you learn in 7 classes? Apparently a decent amount.
"one of these grabby dudes" lmao
One of the perks of wrestling for so long is the collar tie becomes the headlock in that default set
Right on. People are obsessed now with grabbing and holding, locking - due to a misunderstanding of how and when to effectively implement BJJ trchniques
I had a friend, well "friend", who was a huge douche who couldn't fight. He got suplexed on concrete because he wouldn't let go of a headlock, thankfully I didn't watch a man die only break his shoulder in 2 places, get the wind knocked out of him and slip a disk. He refused to let go because he had "better position".
Wait, you mean no 'ground game' took place after this?! 😏
@@BWater-yq3jx he got punched a couple times but it was clear he couldn't fight back so the other guy took off before the cops showed up
@@biohazard724
yes a slam on the street is different to one in the ring or on the mat...
often that's it.
The slam is my favorite because if they hold on they will add onto the impact.
I was sparring Muay Thai with a friend wrestler, while clinching I fed my head forward and he had put me in something like a headlock I postured up and he was lifted off of the ground, mind you he is bigger and much stronger than I am I am a better kickboxer but he is also generally better in the clinch so it was a pretty interesting exchanged
YUP...I always said that you would think the headlock was deadliest move on the planet judging by the number of escapes for it you can find on TH-cam. Another great video, keep up the good work.
good teamwork, on screen presence and concepts. Thank you
Two of my favorite channels. Thanks Mike!
The head control on the way to getting the headlock gives you tons of options: throw, take the back, hold and knee. Then you get the headlock and kind of end up with nothing. Like so many other positions, our instincts are good for the first step but the "default" things that happen when you don't know what to do with the advantage you've gained suck.
I thought this was a gentle art.......
Uh yea it is! 😁 👍 🥊
But I'm already subbed on Knight ... a few years running now lol.
Finally he's back ❤️
Yes I love to go into clinching from the headlock. So fun
@Lawng Jawn dude could you not
@Lawng Jawn Thanks I appreciate you trying to help me but this comment was a joke. When it comes to sparring I rarely even see headlocks let alone transitions into clinching after but it does seem like an interesting option if you're stuck in this position.
i learned fighting from the old western films so i use primarily wide sweeping hooks, double axe-hands, and the good ol' fashioned half nelson headlock, shoot!
My favorite transition is to suplex city 😆
Legit question, what about the bulldog choke? Is it one if those "if they know how to do it and you're in the headlock, you're just fucked" scenarios?
There’s definitely exceptions where there are technical applications for headlocks and the bulldog choke is one for sure.
@Paul Singer which guy?
@Paul Singer so, that first reply from knight jiu-jitsu is the other guy in this video. Also, Mike doesn't claim to be an expert, in fact he claims specifically not to be an expert repeatedly in this video. I just expected that as a non-expert he wouldn't be nearly as familiar with the exceptions where headlocks could be a good idea {period} there are some specifically trained headlocks that are a great idea {comma} but the normal instinctual headlock tends to be a bad idea {period} there are some exceptions to that one as well, but they are few and far between. In a general sense, telling people to stop doing headlocks is probably good fighting advice the majority of the time. you are likely correct about the people he hasn't trained with and about some of the places where headlocks can be a really good idea, but for the most part anyone fighting Josh Barnett and getting advice from these videos is just going to get beat up. On the other hand, almost anyone just watching this videos would lose a fight to Mike as well. Most of us don't train nearly enough to be competition for mike, let alone competition for the many many people who are better than him in a fight.
You're not likely to get to a bulldog choke from a headlock unless the guy turns away from you for some strange reason. If you're thinking of the Ben askren fight , you'll notice he gets to the choke from a rear-naked position.
So fun when you collab with the grabbly dude
Golden Crates, Dusty Decks, Epidemic Sound, that licensed lo fi goodness 😂
Thanks both of you! Very helpful and easy to understand
You should do a video on palm to the side or palm down for a hook
You guys are great together. Keep it up
Okay, so from the headlock, why don't you go to a fallaway backbreaker, or a bulldog to the ground? A neck crank if you wedge it in?
I do a sagging headlock throw, and it works fine, i never just stand there like a dummy waiting for his move.
you could use that "bad" instinct, in that position i thought in koshi guruma (the judo throw), but you have to change the stance to do it, the natural stance in tha bad reaction is no good.
The Kubinage is a really good, low technique, no gi judo throw. But you are vulnerable if it failes.
Would you make an exception if you have the headlock and the far arm ? Some people are very good add getting the head and arm throw from there.
Hey would you mod the shield to have the flashlight, or would you rather mod the flashlight onto the whip?
I've accidentally done it while rolling. I typically know right away "oh shit, I dont want this." But sometimes it's hard to let go, or in one case that happened, I rolled with a guy less experienced than me, and he shockingly managed to get a spinal twist because I had that shitty headlock. It started as a legit hold, but he worked into the other one. Was pretty neat how it happened. Took both of us by surprise. Lol.
“Go visit knight Jiu Jitsu if you’re into that grabby shit”🤣🤣
Headlocks are awesome! I love it when someone tries to get me in one. I am seriously getting chub thinking about it. The openings they are giving you are amazing. My personal favorite response involves a fall with my elbow in their floating ribs. They cushion me, and I drive 230lbs of gravity reinforced, very directed energy into a weak spot in their ribcage. It is just so funny watching them try to breath afterwards.
I don’t honestly know if I’m in the position to Setup a head lock I’m also normally in the position for a guillotine choke. Never really been a fan of head locks unless it’s a neck crank
i don't think i have ever turned away from a punch, probably why my face looks like garry cheevers goalie mask
I am one of those grabby dudes. If save me one time when I was losing big time with strikes on the streets, I had to go to my BJJ and ground game and I was able to walk away with little damage
I used "head lock & punch on face " when i was 11 😂 its easy to get opponent blood at nose.
I have found myself there once bouncing and I transitioned to a neck crank which was not the best choice for the guy. I should have let go, I have always wondered if that guy was ok. I'll take your advice and let go next time.
What if you just go to the body?
It's really interesting to actually see this in an actual street fight.
Which part?
Eli is amazing🙏🙏🤙
are you guys in the ryan hoover gym?
Yes a head lock like that is really stupid I remember one time I was in a fight and someone did that to me back then I didn't even know about MMA and grappling but I still knew what he did was very stupid so I just grabbed him by the waist lifted him up and leaned back dropped him on his head KO'D him
Mike I would like to say how I enjoy your videos and ask you 2 questions. First would you rather have a decent flashlight for self defence during day and confronting many attackers or the buckler. If you chose one which would it be?? Secondly, I saw a small sized flashlight that has 25000 lumens would you recommend this(doesn't have teeth) for day self defence. I am thinking of buying this to? Thanks for your help!!
Concerning buckler used in the day and concealed in a bag not to be seen by public during day!!
"grabby dudes" 😂
I get told not to a lot at judo...but I can't help myself from going for a headlock ogoshi hip throw. It only ever works against new guys though.
Probably if the headlocker can't fight, but is a lot bigger than the headlockee, it might be effective.
Eli says hold on you say let go...
It is not a side headlock drill until somebody gets a noogie. .
the people who dislike were the ones who never let go.
I had an Internet comment Warrior tell me jujitsu was the best martial art to defend yourself on the street and I said he’s right if he focused on the parts that specialize in getting you back to your feet. He called me a virgin
I'm already subscribed cause I'm into that grabbin shit lol
With a rise of Covid cases, martial arts studios have closed.
Can I do anything besides shadow boxing at the park?
Technically there is a takedown using that headlock. It’s just trash.
@@doaimanariroll5121 I’m referring to more of the hip throw. When I first started wrestling I trained with a guy who used it on me all the time, but I think he only landed it because he outweighed me by a good twenty pounds, and also I sucked at wrestling.
Unrelated to video, has anyone told you that you look like Nate (Dwight's worker) from the Office?
Yeah he's right but there is one good thing you can do with a head lock without changing all that much and that's a hip toss
Yeah our instincts to fight must suck when we fought wars since we remeber.
If you do something for long time, it doesn't mean you do it right
@@tprnbs True but experience and practice beats theory.
If u can go into headlock and actually fallow up on it as they demonstrated its not a bad thing 2 do.
Its just the fact that he says instincts are stupid is dumb on the fact that fighting is based on instincts.
@@sakelock7986 doesn’t mean those instincts are going to be more effective than learning actual jj, wrestling, boxing, etc
@@donovanking5299 Not the point. Instincts are in martial arts.
I love someone getting me in a headlock, crotch em and suplex em lol
Can you ever over train?
Lol Grabbydudes and deathhugs..
Yup.. Schoolyard headlocks get people F'N SLAMMED...
Commenting before Eli lmao
Grabby grappling people for the win ! 🤭🤣😁
Bro I have the an inescapable headlock....... I’d show you but it’s too dangerous to use.
@crowthrone it’s uses chi.
Hi
Uh...? Greenbelt choke, moving right along.
Awesome to know...but if I’m not sparring or real life fighting a “grabby dude” I’ll still use the headlock
You obviously haven't watched a lot of worldstar lol
I'm a grabby dude. I'm not as good at being a hitty dude.
Chancery is not recommended even historically - If I'm not mistaken by Col. Monstery. Great Vid!
Monstery was a simp.
@@pinocchio418 I doubt that, but I apreciate your input!
JUST STAND UP!!! I could do it better than that professional! ALL I SEE IS RED!! man when i get into a fight i just black out and no one can stop me. I know need to know how to fight, i can bench 225! Id just go to the body!
Always go to the body! 🤣
@Captain Delicious Pants he was being sarcastic
@Captain Delicious Pants ya very true, my b if that came off as rude
@nightwolf6x i get knocked out in jiu jitsu and swept in muay thai actually
"If someone head locks me, I would just shoot them"
Don't forget risk control. Step one, wrist control. Step two, pull out your gun.
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I like to grab.
DO THE BARNYARD! said no decent wrestling coach ever.
That's probably so Country y'all don't even know wtf I'm talking about.
the grabby dudes always get on my nerves.
IMHO, I found this irrelevant. Put some gears and do the stuff instead... Too much talking...
Hi