Scarey -- broke my heart to hear the terror in her voice -- thank God that she was able to keep her wits and aviate & navigate to an open field and land safely. Looking at the ADS-B data (via Flightradar24), she did everything perfectly -- altitude control, proper speed management, best glide ratio, no turns below 500' AGL, good rate of descent (ROD) on final, with a small flare upon landing. Never once did she go below Vref+5 on final. Also, based on the speed and ROD data, it appears she did a flaps-up landing -- which is exactly what should be done when the engine is out. Amazing job, all around!!
5000 hr flight instructor here - and 1 engine failure. There is no terror, suprisinly. Yes it's a high stress situation, time compresses, your heart rate goes way up, you think quicker, and the pitch of your voice goes up. You are not scared at the time, you are hyper focussed, working very hard, running checklists, handling the aircraft, looking for a place to land, planning your approach, communicating with ATC, keeping passengers calm. High stress yes, terror no. You are just too damn busy to really feel fear. Sounds like she handled the situation quite well. That comes from training and more training. The terror actually comes later, after you do the debrief and sign off, when you finaly are alone, for me, that's when the wobbly knees hit.
I heard this one live and my heart dropped when I heard the situation change. Minus the irrigation system it was the best spot on the map to land. Well done!
ALWAYS great to hear no injuries!! She did a great job getting her aircraft safely on the ground!! Future pilot indeed!! ATC and Air 1 were excellent in keeping location of the aircraft!! Kudos all around!! 👍✈✈👍
The cockpit suddenly becomes VERY busy during an engine failure. Engine failures are the focus of much training and practice. In an actual engine failure the engine may shake violently, spray oil across the windshield, smoke and flames may also be present. A flood of decisions have to be made and with all that going on you have the voices of ATC in your headset. She handled it like an ace !
@AirTrafficVisualised nice touch with orange and blue text for the Auburn transmissions. Great job by the flight crew, company, ATC, and Sheriffs on this emergency.
I think she went into mind trap that everything might be good if oil temp is good, but actually if oil pump failed, oil temp might stay at 170 because it doesnt circulate over anything hot if there is no pressure. It went downhill quickly from that moment
@@roberttedmoorman5021 I don't expect anyone to have that detailed knowledge about engines, but I suspected that being a pilot requires some simulation hours in such emergency scenarios and some theoretical preparation to in case engine blows up. Brushing off low oil pressure signal isn't something that should be done in any vehicle, no matter if on ground or air.
@@darekmistrz4364 Darek, Sorry I was a probably a little harsh in my analysis of your thoughts. I tend to focus more on results and outcomes. Looking at the the map, I see they turned south just prior to entering the developed Talahassee area. At 10 miles and 5,000 feet, assuming a 3:1 glide they probably could have made TLH, but I think they executed their best plan after engine loss and performed wonderfully. You can hear the stress primarily from the one radio call when the engine comes apart and then they get back into pilot mode (aviate, navigate, communicate). Your point is well taken and I hope flight schools stress that more.
P.S. As a guy who always had 2 ,3, or 4 engines, we always had the luxury of doing a precautionary engine shutdown and then deal with the issue at hand. In ETOPS operations with two engines, you land at the nearest suitable airport. 3 Engine you look for the best nearby airport. 4 engine you can continue on if fuel and reduced performance still allow you to conduct a safe operation. I only have about 90 hours in small aircraft. Appreciate your knowledge
@roberttedmoorman5021 She did start heading back towards the airport despite thinking it could be a false alarm, and the ATC, quite astutely, advised her to keep altitude in case the engine did fail. They couldn't have done more even if they saw the engine failure coming the moment the oil pressure dropped.
Yes, Angels Field (2,000 ft rwy) was 3 miles behind when the aircraft lost the engine and Ingalls Field (5,400’) was 5 miles away. It appears the airplane glided about 10 miles after engine failure. The airplane’s GPS has a nearest airport button that shows distance, heading and length of longest runway. Both airports are grass runways and the 172 is very capable on grass runways.
When you're not sure it's a real indication, you might want to get back to your home base for best maintenance and convenience. Once you realize it's a real emergency, it might be too late to take advantage of those closer fields. Lesson - land at the closest field and take a look at things when safely on the ground.
Yeah, I think she went into mind trap that everything might be good if oil temp is good, but actually if oil pump failed, oil temp might stay at 170 because it doesnt circulate over anything hot if there is no pressure. It went downhill quickly from that moment
What for? N965AU had working radio so they could ask heli to land if needed, but pilot usually wouldn't leave aircraft. Also Sheriffs helicopter isnt a taxi and neither an Ambulance, they might not even have space to take passengers.
@@jimb3137 You're correct. Apparently a Rescue Ambulance and Fire Truck showed up almost immediately and Air 1 could see them on site. Probably best for EMT's to check them out and give them a ride back to the airport while they decompress from the incident.. All's well that ends well!
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Scarey -- broke my heart to hear the terror in her voice -- thank God that she was able to keep her wits and aviate & navigate to an open field and land safely.
Looking at the ADS-B data (via Flightradar24), she did everything perfectly -- altitude control, proper speed management, best glide ratio, no turns below 500' AGL, good rate of descent (ROD) on final, with a small flare upon landing. Never once did she go below Vref+5 on final. Also, based on the speed and ROD data, it appears she did a flaps-up landing -- which is exactly what should be done when the engine is out.
Amazing job, all around!!
5000 hr flight instructor here - and 1 engine failure. There is no terror, suprisinly. Yes it's a high stress situation, time compresses, your heart rate goes way up, you think quicker, and the pitch of your voice goes up. You are not scared at the time, you are hyper focussed, working very hard, running checklists, handling the aircraft, looking for a place to land, planning your approach, communicating with ATC, keeping passengers calm. High stress yes, terror no. You are just too damn busy to really feel fear. Sounds like she handled the situation quite well. That comes from training and more training. The terror actually comes later, after you do the debrief and sign off, when you finaly are alone, for me, that's when the wobbly knees hit.
Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm sure the two occupants will never forget the experience!
It broke my heart when the other pilots requested to turn around for their friend
I heard this one live and my heart dropped when I heard the situation change. Minus the irrigation system it was the best spot on the map to land. Well done!
ALWAYS great to hear no injuries!! She did a great job getting her aircraft safely on the ground!! Future pilot indeed!! ATC and Air 1 were excellent in keeping location of the aircraft!! Kudos all around!! 👍✈✈👍
The cockpit suddenly becomes VERY busy during an engine failure. Engine failures are the focus of much training and practice. In an actual engine failure the engine may shake violently, spray oil across the windshield, smoke and flames may also be present. A flood of decisions have to be made and with all that going on you have the voices of ATC in your headset. She handled it like an ace !
@AirTrafficVisualised nice touch with orange and blue text for the Auburn transmissions. Great job by the flight crew, company, ATC, and Sheriffs on this emergency.
From a Bama grad. War Eagle. Glad they had a safe landing.
Thata girl!!!! Way to bring your wounded bird down safely.
Always enjoy the epilogue. Thanks. Happy ending, great drama.
I think she went into mind trap that everything might be good if oil temp is good, but actually if oil pump failed, oil temp might stay at 170 because it doesnt circulate over anything hot if there is no pressure. It went downhill quickly from that moment
P.S. They aren't A & P's and don't have your voluminous mechanical knowledge
@@roberttedmoorman5021 I don't expect anyone to have that detailed knowledge about engines, but I suspected that being a pilot requires some simulation hours in such emergency scenarios and some theoretical preparation to in case engine blows up. Brushing off low oil pressure signal isn't something that should be done in any vehicle, no matter if on ground or air.
@@darekmistrz4364 Darek, Sorry I was a probably a little harsh in my analysis of your thoughts. I tend to focus more on results and outcomes. Looking at the the map, I see they turned south just prior to entering the developed Talahassee area. At 10 miles and 5,000 feet, assuming a 3:1 glide they probably could have made TLH, but I think they executed their best plan after engine loss and performed wonderfully. You can hear the stress primarily from the one radio call when the engine comes apart and then they get back into pilot mode (aviate, navigate, communicate).
Your point is well taken and I hope flight schools stress that more.
P.S. As a guy who always had 2 ,3, or 4 engines, we always had the luxury of doing a precautionary engine shutdown and then deal with the issue at hand. In ETOPS operations with two engines, you land at the nearest suitable airport. 3 Engine you look for the best nearby airport. 4 engine you can continue on if fuel and reduced performance still allow you to conduct a safe operation. I only have about 90 hours in small aircraft. Appreciate your knowledge
@roberttedmoorman5021 She did start heading back towards the airport despite thinking it could be a false alarm, and the ATC, quite astutely, advised her to keep altitude in case the engine did fail. They couldn't have done more even if they saw the engine failure coming the moment the oil pressure dropped.
Well done. See you at the airlines
Whew, a bit scary there! Glad everyone is ok 🙌
LMAO - she went from speed broadcasting to full on terror real quick.
Yup. It's all fun and confidence until shit hits the fan. Glad it all turned out ok.
Nice job TLH!
Are those airports behind them when they lose the engine?
Yes, Angels Field (2,000 ft rwy) was 3 miles behind when the aircraft lost the engine and Ingalls Field (5,400’) was 5 miles away. It appears the airplane glided about 10 miles after engine failure. The airplane’s GPS has a nearest airport button that shows distance, heading and length of longest runway. Both airports are grass runways and the 172 is very capable on grass runways.
When you're not sure it's a real indication, you might want to get back to your home base for best maintenance and convenience. Once you realize it's a real emergency, it might be too late to take advantage of those closer fields. Lesson - land at the closest field and take a look at things when safely on the ground.
@@stephenwood4605 that's neat
Can you please make a video on flight UA262 from 24/06/2022
Thanks for the suggestion! The video is scheduled to be published on July 1, at about 13:30Z.
The video is now available! th-cam.com/video/jVQnKGD_0qM/w-d-xo.html
The sudden change in her voice was very noticeable.
Yeah, I think she went into mind trap that everything might be good if oil temp is good, but actually if oil pump failed, oil temp might stay at 170 because it doesnt circulate over anything hot if there is no pressure. It went downhill quickly from that moment
I got a bit worried when you could hear her panic on frequency.
I wonder why the helicopter didn't land.
What for? N965AU had working radio so they could ask heli to land if needed, but pilot usually wouldn't leave aircraft. Also Sheriffs helicopter isnt a taxi and neither an Ambulance, they might not even have space to take passengers.
No need for an off airport landing, no injuries equals less urgency.
@@jimb3137 You're correct. Apparently a Rescue Ambulance and Fire Truck showed up almost immediately and Air 1 could see them on site. Probably best for EMT's to check them out and give them a ride back to the airport while they decompress from the incident.. All's well that ends well!