If you have a chance for a "sound" meditation with gongs I encourage you to do so!! It's an experience that touches your awareness on levels you usually are unaware of! Very beneficial
This is utterly fantastic, and I am without words for how inspired, humbled, and thrilled that this video, and these instruments, and this instrument maker share time on this earth with me. Thank you.
Your gongs are AMAZING! probably the most interesting clip I have ever seen on TH-cam. I have tears in my eyes cause the sound from your instruments are so rich and full.
Do check my website at barrymasonfineart.com. IF you go to events , you will find whole performances where we play with hand pans, cellos etc, but also play the gongs with mallets as well as flumies.
Buddy Rich! That’s my dad’s favorite drummer. He played Dixieland Jazz in Pensacola Florida, and I play guitar. We live in Georgia now. Cheers man! Bravo for your work👏 - Chad Cetti
Thank you for the video. New info for me about titanium; the range of sound, and it’s unusual response to heat. Your work is beautiful, and, having played brass gongs briefly before, I’d love to try a titanium one now. Perhaps even make one. Thanks again.
I really recommend starting by making your own singing bowls.. That way you will learn so much! Then progress to brass or copper gongs (that can be easily annealed with heat, and so softened), before you jump in to titanium (that you can't anneal!). I did a course with RESOUNDING EARTH some years ago and they were lovely. Also you will make a bowl to treasure and which will be better than anything that you can buy. (The so called "Tibetan" bowls are mass produced in Nepal and Thailand now, and are or mostly poor quality).
Thanks for those kind words Eber. Looks as if you are doing some great work in Costa Rica too..! I have subscribed tp your channel .. Do become a Facebook friend too.
Beautiful to see and hear Barry. Thank you for sharing this🙏 I have - so far - built two gongs on my own, guided by gong building masters (Broder Oetken and Harr van der Burgt). The process is fascinating and super rewarding. My second gong was in a metal-mix that included some Titanium. Seeing your video makes me ponder on the idea of building a titanium gong one day.... Oh my, that must be really amazing.
What a gift this craft is to the world!! Curious if you could recommend any resources where I could learn about gong making/making titanium gongs? Bless your life.
I am a working musician and music teacher, so can only work on my gongs on a part time basis.. So I am not in a position to take on an apprentice . I started by making singing bowls with my friends at Resounding Earth, and then largely taught myself to progress to gongs. Broder Oetken is a really good maker in Germany, and he runs regular gong making workshops from his studio in Germany. Best of luck!
Thank you for using your skills for the greater good. I’m looking to make a proper massive gong for my “ground , sound and nature bathing garden here in the sunny south east
Barry my appreciation for your work as a musician and an artist has been a constant for years ... and with these gongs you bring so much together! The, and you, are both astonishing and beautiful. Bravo! More please :-)
Thank you Heather And gabriella, I learnt so much from you at that first singing bowl workshop. You gave me the confidence to experiment and also to work with intention. Forever grateful!
Where could i find the band and the song that can be heard at the beginning of the video? Searching for "The Daniel Billing Band" doesn't seem to give any results on Google nor TH-cam. Excellent drumming, Mr. Mason. Very skilled in the art of the hi-hat. The gongs are also utmost amazing.
Hi Manuel, The Daniel Billing Band can be found on Apple Music. These gigs and recordings are nearly 9 years old now though. I now play with my own band, named the Truly Madlys. We have only just started recording and gigging, so some sample tracks can be found on soundcloud. We also have a Facebook page for recent gigs etc. Daniel Billing is a great musician, and he now works regularly with Davey Dodds and another project called LIvES.... It's always a pleasure to work with him.
Thanks for those kind words Jens, they mean a lot coming from you. I have learned a huge amount over the last 4 years, but certainly do not consider myself a master! I do not have access to the generations of experience of someone like Martin Blaise or Border Oatken, and do still sometimes make big and expensive mistakes..... I do hope that we can meet sometime on the gong "circuit".
Dear Mr. Mason. Thank you uploading such an amazing video. I am interested in making a titanium gong like this. Would you mind if I get your insights on these questions? Would you recommend hammering the titanium before giving heat treatment? I am curious whether hammering works better before annealing it. Is hammering on edges what tunes the gong or is it for making its shape? I am wondering how hot should the temp be to get color on titanium. Is heat treatment and coloring happening simultaneously? Should the plate be ‘repeatedly’ heated till we see ‘dull red’?
Hi Antonio, I strongly suggest that you first experiment with some scrap titanium. You will find that it doesn't behave like other metals in that when you heat it it actually gets harder! (You can' t anneal it like brass or bronze alloys!) Therefore all the hammering and shaping has to be done cold. I do also hammer every square cm, to return the titanium to its original hexagonal molecular shape that has been compromised in the rolling process. It is VERY hard work; be warned. I treat it like a meditation. I only apply heat only after the gong is fully shaped and hammered. The extra hardness that comes after heating gives it far greater resonance. Personally I just use propane torches, but you can also colour titanium using anodising. Do look at Ross Barrable's crystanium gongs if you want to see this. I may well experiment with anodising in the future, but for now I am happy with the process that I have developed. Martin Blaise has also been quite inspirational, and he regularly posts videos online. Good luck with your quest!
Thanks for the great clips. I too wanted to make a titanium gong, so I immediately bought a plate and started tapping on it. When I started hitting it on the anvil with a metal hammer, the board warped so much that I couldn't get it to do what I wanted. What kind of hammer do you use when you strike the center of the board instead of the edges? Should I bend the edges first and then strike the inside? thank you for great work.
I have only worked so far with 1.5, 1.8 , 2 and 2.5mm grade 1 (pure) titanium. Thin = a quick and "splashy" response ; thick = slower, deeper and longer response. I find the best compromise to be 2mm for my 1 and 1.2 m diameter gongs, but do make the odd one from 2.5 just to go for the really deep and low frequencies ...(but these take a LOT of extra time and effort to forge).
Great to see your skill and passion mate "beautiful", maybe if I get enough dosh one day 😀 Where do you get those friction mallets from if you don't mind me asking, the rubber ones I use split after a small amount of use and your always cautious of a stick scratch 🙏💚🌍🙌
Hi Robert, Thanks for those kind words. I only use flumies from Bear Love (sound of love.co.uk). Each size brings out a different set of frequencies and overtones. We hardly never use mallets these days as these flumies allow us to target specific frequencies. I've had some for years now, and they are as good now as the day I bought them!
Mr Barry, would you be interested in having a student of your craft? I would like very much to learn your teachings and go on with the art of gong making
@TomisaLami mallet head is rubber. Bouncy ball on a stick or a junior saw blade works just fine on most surfaces, gongs, windows, etc. If your gong has flat edge, unlike these, you can use a cello, or violin bow, or double bass bow to get even more interesting sounds than he is getting.👍
I’m looking for a gong that doesn’t have that big splash sound but then that most of the way you hit it right? I want something that’s gonna let out a very low base note. How much do you charge for this like a 36 inch gong I don’t know, my ancestors in ancient Mexico have been documented as having them, but they were made of copper I was thinking of buying a sheet of copper having it cut into a circle and just play it, but I’m not sure if I’ll have to hammer it and curve it or whatever I guess the worst part is, I don’t have those kinds of tools
Hi Martin, Gongs can be any shape - look at the work of Steve Hubback for example; he even makes skull shaped ones. I have made a copper gong, and it sounded really good too. Any big metal plate, hung up and hit, will give you a "gongy" sound, but the skill is to maximise the frequency ranges that they produce. A flat gong (often called a wind gong" tend to splash` quickly and then decay quickly too. Putting a rim on a` circular gong holds and controls the tension in the central portion, so you have more control and tension. Good luck with your gong quest. Do start by making a small singing bowl. You will learn a lot from this process!
I was curious what such a specialty item, requiring so much skilled labor, would sell for. I'm quite astonished that you let them go for that low! How does one transport one of these?
Hi Allen , I am very fortunate to be able to make my gongs in my spare time, with percussion teaching , music gigs and my other sculpture work to support my practice. I also have low overheads as I own my own studio and am mortgage free. I try to offer my pieces at a fair price, that reflects both the cost of materials and also the time that they take to forge . I don't wish to charge so much that they become too expensive for the sound therapy community. . I do not have the high overheads of masters such as Martin Blaise, with studio rentals and apprentices to pay, but neither do I wish to deliberately undercut his prices. Titanium is half the weight of steel, and size for size, ( as bronze gongs tend to be thicker) are about 1/3 of the weight of a similarly sized traditional going. . The 39 inch gongs fit easily through the back door of a normal car, and are easily liftable with one hand. The 48 inch gongs do need a bigger estate or SUV , but again they are relatively light . Also, being titanium they are completely weatherproof, so could even go on a roof rack if necessary (In a bag though!) Hope that this answers your questions... Cheers Barry
Hi Misha, I have collaborated with John Stuart Reid, who has played the sounds of my gongs through pure water on his Cymascope instrument. The resulting images are really interesting. I have engraved one of my gongs with its "own" image, which was quite an exercise. Do check him out online. I find his work really inspirational.
Fascinating and the end results speak for themselves (literally!). Out of curiosity, what thickness of titanium sheet do you start with? My guess is it's thinner than you'd use for bronze due to the difference in hardness but I may be way off...
Hi Bruno . I have only used grade 1 titanium so far as I believe that this is the purest.. (Thats why I call my work "Elemental Gongs". I have also worked in the past in pure copper, with surprisingly good results)
Wonderful video! I've been practicing engraving my own gongs as well, and I'd like to say that you have a lot of patience, haha. I know you've seen Martin Bläse's painting technique that he uses on some of his gongs, and I was wondering if you've figured it out for yourself? Some of them look like they might be utilizing it. I'd like to attempt it too and I SUSPECT it might be accomplished with titanium dioxide (chemical in Wite-Out) but I haven't had a chance to test it myself yet. I know Blacksmiths use Wite-Out in canister-welding to prevent sticking, so I feel like it must be fairly heat-resistant. Any help or a point in the right direction would be greatly appreciated. Keep up the awesome work!
Yes, I use "kiln wash". - it's what potters use to stop pots sticking together in the kiln. Ross Barrable uses anodising on his ti crystanium gongs gongs too - passing an electric current through an electrolyte bath.. Interesting!
@barrymason4314 Awesome, thank you for sharing! I've thought that anodizing or maybe metal-plating would be interesting to try, but I'm not sure how you'd get the electricity to distribute evenly through such a large body of water. I guess the electrolytes aid in that then?
Heya Barry.. thanks for the video amazing to see how you work... I am wondering have you ever made a square gong? is it even possible? would the sound and resonance still be maintained in a square gong? Reason I'm asking is I travel a lot with my gong and it's a hassle on planes. I have wondered if I could get a custom gong made that would fit nicely in a large suitcase to meet the airlines baggage standards. any thoughts would be appreciated.. thanks much matt
It's perfectly possible to make any shape of gong. Take a look at the work of my friend Steve Hubback for example.. He makes skull shapes, shell shapes ; all sorts! But the deeper I go into the world of vibrational research I am more and more drawn to the larger gongs. In fact I am now working on 2 new 48 inch examples, which from a business point of view is crazy.
I have made a couple of gongs in the past that were smaller than 39 inches, and they sounded like "dinner gongs" by comparison with the larger sizes.. As my gongs are used principally by myself and others for sound therapy work, I prioritise the deeper frequencies that only come from the larger sizes.
@@ThatGongGuy I've worked with 1.8, 2 and 2.5 mm.. It's a "Goldilocks" problem. The thicker the material the longer the sustain, the thinner, the easier to bloom but the shorter the sustain. I now usually build in 2mm grade 1 (pure titanium). Best compromise...
Hello, I've been watching your videos and I really love your goongs, made with love. Can you tell me where you are and if you sell those gongs and what their price is .
Hi Manh, Do check out my website at barrymasonfineart.com. You will find all the gongs which are currently available as well as their prices. Glad that you like them!
@@HushHour_Alicia_Ma_Ri_Atu_Ma Yes , I remember receiving a really nice gong bath from you at Drumcamp some years ago . We are there again this year, and have our cellist with us, so we will be giving a full on sound journey with the HOhME Trio on 2 occasions. We still refer to it as Drumcamp, but the new name is the World Music Workshop Gathering !
Wow! Those are amazing! Ive been wanting to hammer out a gong for years. What thickness (gauge) titanium do you use? Or if you were to make a gong out on stainless steel, what gauge would you use? I have some nonmagnetic stainless steel i think would work well for a gong. Any input would be greatly appreciated ✌🏼✌🏼
Hi Miley, I've tried 1.8. 2. and 2.5 mm . I find 2 mm the best compromise . The only SS gong that I have made was from 3mm - too thick ! Hope that this all helps.
@@barrymason4314 oh ok. That's fairly heavy gauge sheet. That's heavier gauge than I thought it would be. I have some 16 gauge (1.6mm). I think that should work out alright. Thank you for your help.
I'm just thinking - if the sound waves of gongs are so beneficial, gong players should be very healthy people! Not to knock this though, I do like gong sounds and they do work very deep within me, even when I only hear them through speakers. Would love to hear and feel them played in real some time.
*I JUST LOOKED AT THE PRICE* At £4,000 you must be doing this mostly as a hobby - the vast amount of work and the very expensive material you are using... Ive tried to straighten a dent out of a titanium exhaust and it was next to impossible - the stuff just does NOT want to deform. EDIT - absolutely amazing BTW.
why don't you give them a whack? isn't that what you do with gongs? I mean, this is all very artistic and the resonance is good, but what does it sounds like when it is wacked like a normal usage of a gong?
@j-davis7290 and you are someone who would look at a horse and call it a steam engine... by far the primary use of a gong is to whack it, not this resonance thing he is demonstrating. I get that you are very posh and elite and you like to hold that over people, but that doesn't make the general usage of a gong any different. Ever heard of the "gong show"? This is pretty basic stuff. Grow up!
@acmhfmggru horse is a horse, steam engine is a beautiful piece of engineering that propelled civilization quite far. You're reductive and lack the cognitive skill to make a logically cohesive retort. (Or understand gongs, apparently)
I’m looking for a gong that doesn’t have that big splash sound but then that most of the way you hit it right? I want something that’s gonna let out a very low base note. How much do you charge for this like a 36 inch gong I don’t know, my ancestors in ancient Mexico have been documented as having them, but they were made of copper I was thinking of buying a sheet of copper having it cut into a circle and just play it, but I’m not sure if I’ll have to hammer it and curve it or whatever I guess the worst part is, I don’t have those kinds of tools
So you'll keep speaking to this world long after you've left it, on a level unique to you.
These are indeed very very special.
Thank you for those kind words.
You should contact Broder Oetken at Oetken Gongs. HE runs regular classes from his workshop in Germany .
If you have a chance for a "sound" meditation with gongs I encourage you to do so!! It's an experience that touches your awareness on levels you usually are unaware of! Very beneficial
This is utterly fantastic, and I am without words for how inspired, humbled, and thrilled that this video, and these instruments, and this instrument maker share time on this earth with me. Thank you.
Even just learning about the process by which these gongs are made feels deeply satisfying bordering on therapeutic. Superb video, really.
👍👌👏 Oh WOW, simply fantastic! What an enormous effort to make these titanium gongs.
Best regards, luck and health in particular.
Wow that's really incredible work you do you've certainly taken this rare and unusual craft to the next level
Your gongs are AMAZING! probably the most interesting clip I have ever seen on TH-cam. I have tears in my eyes cause the sound from your instruments are so rich and full.
Do check my website at barrymasonfineart.com. IF you go to events , you will find whole performances where we play with hand pans, cellos etc, but also play the gongs with mallets as well as flumies.
Lmao
Very exciting work, Barry. I cast bronze bells decades ago, but this is a whole other level. Sonorous sound sculptures, indeed.
all of your time and effort is so appreciated and valued here brother. Wow. Those sounds… and theyre breathtaking. Thank you.
Beautiful work and intriguing.
Beautiful craftsmanship! The sound is otherworldly... thanks for sharing your work.
Thanks for those kind words David.
Fascinating. Had no idea this was a dimension of gongs.
This is brilliant, thanks for sharing
Absolutely amazing work!
Buddy Rich! That’s my dad’s favorite drummer. He played Dixieland Jazz in Pensacola Florida, and I play guitar. We live in Georgia now. Cheers man! Bravo for your work👏 - Chad Cetti
Absolutely stunning work- one of the most beautiful instruments I've ever seen to be honest
Thank you for the video. New info for me about titanium; the range of sound, and it’s unusual response to heat. Your work is beautiful, and, having played brass gongs briefly before, I’d love to try a titanium one now. Perhaps even make one. Thanks again.
That’s amazing. Emulating the sound of the nebula.
Wow! Thank you for making this video, it gives me an even deeper appreciation of my gong seeing all the different stages of painstaking crafting! ❤
Thanks for sharing your craftsmanship.
WOW how blessed are you to be able to create this .. stuff of dreams for me .. maximum respect Barry 🔥
Beautiful work, beautiful art.
Thank you for those kind words!
How amazing to see and hear your art sound work. Love and respect for you from Switzerland. Thank you very much for sharing.
absolutely amazing bro ❤ soo keen to learn more from Australia
I've been wanting to try my hand at this for a long time. Thanks for sharing so much
I really recommend starting by making your own singing bowls.. That way you will learn so much! Then progress to brass or copper gongs (that can be easily annealed with heat, and so softened), before you jump in to titanium (that you can't anneal!). I did a course with RESOUNDING EARTH some years ago and they were lovely. Also you will make a bowl to treasure and which will be better than anything that you can buy. (The so called "Tibetan" bowls are mass produced in Nepal and Thailand now, and are or mostly poor quality).
Awesome, creative work, the art work definitely sets you apart 🤙
Masterful job! I'd love to be there in person to see your studio and hear those wonderful gongs.
Bendiciones desde Costa Rica! 🙏
Thanks for those kind words Eber. Looks as if you are doing some great work in Costa Rica too..! I have subscribed tp your channel .. Do become a Facebook friend too.
"Bravo" Barry, thanks for sharing you passion with this beautiful video ! See you
Very interesting story unfolding thank u for sharing !!! soooo impressive work , cosmic and artistic.....
5:33 I hope so too Barry, beautiful work
very interesting Barry, that's a great job you're doing! Wow
Love your "Move" mallets! We use them whenever we hold a sound journey.
Very nice report... Congrats Barry ☆
Beautiful to see and hear Barry. Thank you for sharing this🙏 I have - so far - built two gongs on my own, guided by gong building masters (Broder Oetken and Harr van der Burgt). The process is fascinating and super rewarding. My second gong was in a metal-mix that included some Titanium. Seeing your video makes me ponder on the idea of building a titanium gong one day.... Oh my, that must be really amazing.
You can do it!
What a gift this craft is to the world!! Curious if you could recommend any resources where I could learn about gong making/making titanium gongs? Bless your life.
I am a working musician and music teacher, so can only work on my gongs on a part time basis.. So I am not in a position to take on an apprentice . I started by making singing bowls with my friends at Resounding Earth, and then largely taught myself to progress to gongs. Broder Oetken is a really good maker in Germany, and he runs regular gong making workshops from his studio in Germany. Best of luck!
Thank you for using your skills for the greater good.
I’m looking to make a proper massive gong for my “ground ,
sound and nature bathing garden here in the sunny south east
Thanks for those kind words Sonja
Absolutely wonderful.
Great job!
Barry my appreciation for your work as a musician and an artist has been a constant for years ... and with these gongs you bring so much together! The, and you, are both astonishing and beautiful. Bravo! More please :-)
Thank you Heather And gabriella, I learnt so much from you at that first singing bowl workshop. You gave me the confidence to experiment and also to work with intention. Forever grateful!
How beautiful and incredible!
Nice. Keep doing what you're doing. The world's a better place because of it. 😀
Gracias que hermoso trabajo bendiciones 🙏
Dude those are awesome i want one!!!!
Very interesting 😮
Where could i find the band and the song that can be heard at the beginning of the video? Searching for "The Daniel Billing Band" doesn't seem to give any results on Google nor TH-cam. Excellent drumming, Mr. Mason. Very skilled in the art of the hi-hat. The gongs are also utmost amazing.
Hi Manuel, The Daniel Billing Band can be found on Apple Music. These gigs and recordings are nearly 9 years old now though. I now play with my own band, named the Truly Madlys. We have only just started recording and gigging, so some sample tracks can be found on soundcloud. We also have a Facebook page for recent gigs etc. Daniel Billing is a great musician, and he now works regularly with Davey Dodds and another project called LIvES.... It's always a pleasure to work with him.
Congratulations for becoming a true gongmaster°
Thanks for those kind words Jens, they mean a lot coming from you.
I have learned a huge amount over the last 4 years, but certainly do not consider myself a master! I do not have access to the generations of experience of someone like Martin Blaise or Border Oatken, and do still sometimes make big and expensive mistakes.....
I do hope that we can meet sometime on the gong "circuit".
When do you get the titanic titanium? Does it have to be circular as opposed to rectangular?
This is very inspiring👌🏼
Dear Mr. Mason.
Thank you uploading such an amazing video. I am interested in making a titanium gong like this. Would you mind if I get your insights on these questions?
Would you recommend hammering the titanium before giving heat treatment? I am curious whether hammering works better before annealing it.
Is hammering on edges what tunes the gong or is it for making its shape?
I am wondering how hot should the temp be to get color on titanium. Is heat treatment and coloring happening simultaneously? Should the plate be ‘repeatedly’ heated till we see ‘dull red’?
Hi Antonio, I strongly suggest that you first experiment with some scrap titanium. You will find that it doesn't behave like other metals in that when you heat it it actually gets harder! (You can' t anneal it like brass or bronze alloys!)
Therefore all the hammering and shaping has to be done cold. I do also hammer every square cm, to return the titanium to its original hexagonal molecular shape that has been compromised in the rolling process. It is VERY hard work; be warned. I treat it like a meditation.
I only apply heat only after the gong is fully shaped and hammered. The extra hardness that comes after heating gives it far greater resonance. Personally I just use propane torches, but you can also colour titanium using anodising. Do look at Ross Barrable's crystanium gongs if you want to see this. I may well experiment with anodising in the future, but for now I am happy with the process that I have developed. Martin Blaise has also been quite inspirational, and he regularly posts videos online. Good luck with your quest!
Thank you for your reply sir. Your works give happiness and motivations to a lot of people. I really appreciate your kind words.
Antonio.
Thanks for the great clips. I too wanted to make a titanium gong, so I immediately bought a plate and started tapping on it.
When I started hitting it on the anvil with a metal hammer, the board warped so much that I couldn't get it to do what I wanted.
What kind of hammer do you use when you strike the center of the board instead of the edges?
Should I bend the edges first and then strike the inside?
thank you for great work.
Cool Video, thanks!
amazing , thank you
I would be interested in seeing the gong buried in a large wood fire for the firing process
thats amazing and inspirig! how thick are your sheets usually?
I have only worked so far with 1.5, 1.8 , 2 and 2.5mm grade 1 (pure) titanium. Thin = a quick and "splashy" response ; thick = slower, deeper and longer response. I find the best compromise to be 2mm for my 1 and 1.2 m diameter gongs, but do make the odd one from 2.5 just to go for the really deep and low frequencies ...(but these take a LOT of extra time and effort to forge).
I need this set for my home in Tehema.
Where is Tehema? I'm in England! Just sent a gong to Hawaii though!
Great to see your skill and passion mate "beautiful", maybe if I get enough dosh one day 😀
Where do you get those friction mallets from if you don't mind me asking, the rubber ones I use split after a small amount of use and your always cautious of a stick scratch
🙏💚🌍🙌
Hi Robert, Thanks for those kind words. I only use flumies from Bear Love (sound of love.co.uk). Each size brings out a different set of frequencies and overtones. We hardly never use mallets these days as these flumies allow us to target specific frequencies. I've had some for years now, and they are as good now as the day I bought them!
@@barrymason4314
Thanks Barry, I'll deffo have a look at purchasing a couple.
Keep up the great work mate, love the videos
🙏💚🌍🙌
i want to learn this
Mr Barry, would you be interested in having a student of your craft? I would like very much to learn your teachings and go on with the art of gong making
Hi Miguel, But I am only a beginner myself... I am constantly learning new things each time I make a new gong!
@@barrymason4314 Well, if some day you consider yourself a master, know that you have a eager student waiting
What is the mallet head material made out of? How does it make it vibrate like that?
@TomisaLami mallet head is rubber. Bouncy ball on a stick or a junior saw blade works just fine on most surfaces, gongs, windows, etc. If your gong has flat edge, unlike these, you can use a cello, or violin bow, or double bass bow to get even more interesting sounds than he is getting.👍
@ cool thank
@@TomisaLami you are very welcome. Have fun making beautiful sounds👍😊
Are there cymbals that are made from Titanium?
I’m looking for a gong that doesn’t have that big splash sound but then that most of the way you hit it right? I want something that’s gonna let out a very low base note. How much do you charge for this like a 36 inch gong I don’t know, my ancestors in ancient Mexico have been documented as having them, but they were made of copper I was thinking of buying a sheet of copper having it cut into a circle and just play it, but I’m not sure if I’ll have to hammer it and curve it or whatever I guess the worst part is, I don’t have those kinds of tools
Hi Martin, Gongs can be any shape - look at the work of Steve Hubback for example; he even makes skull shaped ones. I have made a copper gong, and it sounded really good too. Any big metal plate, hung up and hit, will give you a "gongy" sound, but the skill is to maximise the frequency ranges that they produce. A flat gong (often called a wind gong" tend to splash` quickly and then decay quickly too. Putting a rim on a` circular gong holds and controls the tension in the central portion, so you have more control and tension. Good luck with your gong quest. Do start by making a small singing bowl. You will learn a lot from this process!
Great stuff buddy
I was curious what such a specialty item, requiring so much skilled labor, would sell for. I'm quite astonished that you let them go for that low! How does one transport one of these?
Hi Allen , I am very fortunate to be able to make my gongs in my spare time, with percussion teaching , music gigs and my other sculpture work to support my practice.
I also have low overheads as I own my own studio and am mortgage free.
I try to offer my pieces at a fair price, that reflects both the cost of materials and also the time that they take to forge . I don't wish to charge so much that they become too expensive for the sound therapy community. .
I do not have the high overheads of masters such as Martin Blaise, with studio rentals and apprentices to pay, but neither do I wish to deliberately undercut his prices.
Titanium is half the weight of steel, and size for size, ( as bronze gongs tend to be thicker) are about 1/3 of the weight of a similarly sized traditional going. . The 39 inch gongs fit easily through the back door of a normal car, and are easily liftable with one hand. The 48 inch gongs do need a bigger estate or SUV , but again they are relatively light . Also, being titanium they are completely weatherproof, so could even go on a roof rack if necessary (In a bag though!) Hope that this answers your questions... Cheers Barry
thanks a lot for the video. Is there a way of seeing the wave visially with an oscilloscope? Have you had a look?
Hi Misha, I have collaborated with John Stuart Reid, who has played the sounds of my gongs through pure water on his Cymascope instrument. The resulting images are really interesting. I have engraved one of my gongs with its "own" image, which was quite an exercise. Do check him out online. I find his work really inspirational.
@@barrymason4314 thanks alot, I will!
You should try Vibranium !!
Fascinating and the end results speak for themselves (literally!). Out of curiosity, what thickness of titanium sheet do you start with? My guess is it's thinner than you'd use for bronze due to the difference in hardness but I may be way off...
I've worked in 1.5, 1.8. 2 and 2.5 mm grade 1 ti, and find the best is 2mm for the larger gongs.
Bonjour Bary , your work is inspiring !!! I'm in France a bit far to visit you, but who is .... what type of titanium do you use?
T30.....
Hi Bruno . I have only used grade 1 titanium so far as I believe that this is the purest.. (Thats why I call my work "Elemental Gongs". I have also worked in the past in pure copper, with surprisingly good results)
thank you for your kindness and avaiability
You say 1.2 x 1.2 m sheet, but what gauge?
Amazing! Do you handcraft also superballs?
Do you mean bells Victor? I do make bells from the titanium offcuts. Do take a look on my website at barrymasonfineart.com for details. Thanks
Wonderful video! I've been practicing engraving my own gongs as well, and I'd like to say that you have a lot of patience, haha. I know you've seen Martin Bläse's painting technique that he uses on some of his gongs, and I was wondering if you've figured it out for yourself? Some of them look like they might be utilizing it. I'd like to attempt it too and I SUSPECT it might be accomplished with titanium dioxide (chemical in Wite-Out) but I haven't had a chance to test it myself yet. I know Blacksmiths use Wite-Out in canister-welding to prevent sticking, so I feel like it must be fairly heat-resistant. Any help or a point in the right direction would be greatly appreciated. Keep up the awesome work!
Yes, I use "kiln wash". - it's what potters use to stop pots sticking together in the kiln. Ross Barrable uses anodising on his ti crystanium gongs gongs too - passing an electric current through an electrolyte bath.. Interesting!
@barrymason4314 Awesome, thank you for sharing! I've thought that anodizing or maybe metal-plating would be interesting to try, but I'm not sure how you'd get the electricity to distribute evenly through such a large body of water. I guess the electrolytes aid in that then?
Awesome !!! 🥰
Heya Barry.. thanks for the video amazing to see how you work... I am wondering have you ever made a square gong? is it even possible? would the sound and resonance still be maintained in a square gong? Reason I'm asking is I travel a lot with my gong and it's a hassle on planes. I have wondered if I could get a custom gong made that would fit nicely in a large suitcase to meet the airlines baggage standards. any thoughts would be appreciated.. thanks much matt
It's perfectly possible to make any shape of gong. Take a look at the work of my friend Steve Hubback for example.. He makes skull shapes, shell shapes ; all sorts! But the deeper I go into the world of vibrational research I am more and more drawn to the larger gongs. In fact I am now working on 2 new 48 inch examples, which from a business point of view is crazy.
I have made a couple of gongs in the past that were smaller than 39 inches, and they sounded like "dinner gongs" by comparison with the larger sizes.. As my gongs are used principally by myself and others for sound therapy work, I prioritise the deeper frequencies that only come from the larger sizes.
How thick is the titanium sheet you are working with ?
@@ThatGongGuy I've worked with 1.8, 2 and 2.5 mm.. It's a "Goldilocks" problem. The thicker the material the longer the sustain, the thinner, the easier to bloom but the shorter the sustain. I now usually build in 2mm grade 1 (pure titanium). Best compromise...
Hello, I've been watching your videos and I really love your goongs, made with love. Can you tell me where you are and if you sell those gongs and what their price is .
Hi Manh, Do check out my website at barrymasonfineart.com. You will find all the gongs which are currently available as well as their prices. Glad that you like them!
Who was the gong bath practitioner who gave your first gong bath, Barry?
Don Conreaux - lucky me! I also joined Don and played percussion with him on several occasions with his band "MYSTERIOUS TREMENDRUM" . That was FUN!
@@barrymason4314 I imagine it was, being a percussionist myself (as well as a gong practitioner) 🧡
@@HushHour_Alicia_Ma_Ri_Atu_Ma Yes , I remember receiving a really nice gong bath from you at Drumcamp some years ago . We are there again this year, and have our cellist with us, so we will be giving a full on sound journey with the HOhME Trio on 2 occasions. We still refer to it as Drumcamp, but the new name is the World Music Workshop Gathering !
Sounds wonderful! I much preferred the name Drum Camp tbh. So much easier to remember…
Cool things
Using wood fire is a bit more sustainable than the gas torch
Magic!
Wow! Never knew this world existed! 👍
Gong of the Gods!
Wow! Those are amazing! Ive been wanting to hammer out a gong for years. What thickness (gauge) titanium do you use? Or if you were to make a gong out on stainless steel, what gauge would you use? I have some nonmagnetic stainless steel i think would work well for a gong. Any input would be greatly appreciated ✌🏼✌🏼
Hi Miley, I've tried 1.8. 2. and 2.5 mm . I find 2 mm the best compromise . The only SS gong that I have made was from 3mm - too thick ! Hope that this all helps.
@@barrymason4314 oh ok. That's fairly heavy gauge sheet. That's heavier gauge than I thought it would be. I have some 16 gauge (1.6mm). I think that should work out alright. Thank you for your help.
I’m not going to male them. Do you sell them?❤
I'm just thinking - if the sound waves of gongs are so beneficial, gong players should be very healthy people!
Not to knock this though, I do like gong sounds and they do work very deep within me, even when I only hear them through speakers. Would love to hear and feel them played in real some time.
A-mazing!
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Very cool!
holy shit that's impressive
Can I come learn this with u please 🙏
I am always happy to receive visitors to my studio. Do contact me via email if you fancy coming. Addresses are on my website at barrymasonfineart.com.
How expensive are they ?
It’s on his website. Looks like 4-8k per gong depending on size
Ok, looks like i need to find some titanium.
*I JUST LOOKED AT THE PRICE* At £4,000 you must be doing this mostly as a hobby - the vast amount of work and the very expensive material you are using...
Ive tried to straighten a dent out of a titanium exhaust and it was next to impossible - the stuff just does NOT want to deform. EDIT - absolutely amazing BTW.
Im going to make a bong out of a plastic soda bottle and listen to the bubbles.
Also your work is brilliant I'd love to buy one but I'm almost positive its more then I could afford.
Save the plastic! Fart in the bath ! 👍
@andrewaajohnson7584 float a couple candles above it.
That's "Gongs!"
Unbelievable
Too bad these didn't exist when Bonham was alive...
why don't you give them a whack? isn't that what you do with gongs? I mean, this is all very artistic and the resonance is good, but what does it sounds like when it is wacked like a normal usage of a gong?
You know as much about gongs as a toddler knows about rocket science... "just whack it" is barely different than "just build a spaceship" in nuance
@j-davis7290 and you are someone who would look at a horse and call it a steam engine... by far the primary use of a gong is to whack it, not this resonance thing he is demonstrating. I get that you are very posh and elite and you like to hold that over people, but that doesn't make the general usage of a gong any different. Ever heard of the "gong show"? This is pretty basic stuff. Grow up!
@acmhfmggru horse is a horse, steam engine is a beautiful piece of engineering that propelled civilization quite far. You're reductive and lack the cognitive skill to make a logically cohesive retort. (Or understand gongs, apparently)
@@acmhfmggru So good to see that your ignorance doesn't stand in the way of your opinion.
You can craft those colors with electricity also!
I hope you send me a free gong for this helpful comment !?
Sorry, but I have experimented with anodising with electricity too... OK for bells and jewellery etc, but looks a bit naff on a gong!
SO FRUSTRATING that he never let us hear the damned gong without blah blah blah over it!
what a load of bollocks...
titanium is a soft as mild steel.
Gongs are overpriced.
Ehmmm, perhaps watch how they are made.
Ohhhhhh....
I’m looking for a gong that doesn’t have that big splash sound but then that most of the way you hit it right? I want something that’s gonna let out a very low base note. How much do you charge for this like a 36 inch gong I don’t know, my ancestors in ancient Mexico have been documented as having them, but they were made of copper I was thinking of buying a sheet of copper having it cut into a circle and just play it, but I’m not sure if I’ll have to hammer it and curve it or whatever I guess the worst part is, I don’t have those kinds of tools