jojo doesn’t understand that she can’t speak for everyone’s experiences. she was on the show for not even two full seasons. maddie, mackenzie, nia and the other ogs knew abby before the show even picked up. they have a history with her. they don’t have to justify to anyone why they don’t want to do the reunion, and especially not to her.
Plus, the OGs signed up for a 6 episode docuseries and then got tapped in bad contracts. The Siwas and Kira & Kilani and Brynn & Ashlee had very different contacts and also knew going in what Dance Moms was. The Siwas, especially, were definitely just in it for the fame. If ANY
Honestly as an og fan im not even mad. Happy they are choosing peace. Even the girls that did go to the reunion said, it brought back a lot of trauma that they were able to talk about with each other.
You’re in multiple threads whining about “it’s good she didn’t come she’d be a victim about racism blah blah etc” racism is racism, it’s not really a gray area. Oh, how awful anyone speak to racism they’ve experienced. How horrible for you.
the way they reacted when ppl didnt show up, shows why certain ppl didnt want to go. Why disrupt your peace so others can have their 15 mins of fame again.
they look salty that the most loved and famous people didn't show up to give them a career boost again, their biggest selling name is jojo and nobody wants to see jojo.
Nia was too busy crossing the burning sands! She’s in a very historical black sorority now. Alpha Kappa Alpha. It’s a big deal. She was doing that, furthering her life.
Honestly!!! the fact production is taking advantage of these girls once again. Wish they did this on their own, and share across their youtube channels.
It was "racist" when she was offered the cultural parts, it would have been "racist" if she wasn't. She and her mother wanted to play the race card, it was their niche.
maddie, kenzie, and nia owe absolutely NOTHING to the show/lifetime/fans. they went through very heavy trauma from such a young age. for anyone who went through it step by step with them to throw shade, shows the jealousy that runs ramped in that group of girls.
@@chalkandcheese1868girl you dont lnow what any of them would be doing. remember your talking about LITERAL CHILDREN they were children when the show started and while they were on the show, so to say they would be working at hooters as if they couldnt have gone to school or done other rhings mean your a creep
Out of all those girls Jojo, was there the shortest, but she has the loudest mouth, typical She's also made the most profits out of all of them, so I think she should feel pretty comfortable
she’s still young & learning. i wish this channel didn’t encourage hating on other girls all the time. like i’m sure y’all wouldn’t want that done to you
@@angel-fk6rn she is a grown adult who should know right from young. she should know when its appropriate for her to speak and when not to, and most of the time when she does, its never her situation to speak on. yes, shes young, but she should know better.
@@nalee4189 okay but she’s 20 with the mind of an 11 year old… she’s still growing up & learning at the end of the day. i’m sure everyone knows that by now
how do y’all expect her to act like an adult when the media literally made her dress and act like a child until she turned 18? how do you expect her to act when even as a grown up teenager she was forced to act childish, attend kid’s birthday parties and act younger than her age?
Tbh I’m wondering if after the XOMG drama if they’re gonna try to edit her out of the reunion. Not sure if it’s a coincidence or not but she wasn’t in one of the promo videos they did of them reacting to the cringiest dances.
Yes, after each person was out of the group it was like they never existed (well they wish it was that way anyway). The interviews the girls did when it got down to 3 members they had obviously been well coached as the narrative that they gave of how the group got together was technically correct, they gave the impression that there was only supposed to be the 3 of them though.
@@igotpushed_ XOMG Pop, a girl pop group that is owned by Jess and JoJo Siwa. They had a reality elimination show to come up with the girls in the group (and brought back one girl that was eliminated). The original group in 2021 was 7 girls aged 10-14, they fired on girl in Sept 2022, another girl in May 2023 and 2 more girls left in Aug 2022. In Sept they hired one new girl. The current group is 4 girls aged 10-13.
Great point. The hypocrisy is unbelievable. And keep in mind, this is the girl who just said “There’s no such thing as stealing”. Jocelyn did a great job, didn’t she?
The OG cast like Maddie, Mackenzie, and Nia made DANCE MOMs famous not the other way around. They owe dance moms nothing and Dance Moms owe them everything to be able to say successful people like them contributed to their shows success.
@@chalkandcheese1868 ok and? most of the other girls are doing that after having been on the show. The show didn't guarantee them success; SIA gave Maddie a platform after the show. Sia was the source of her success.
@@Nicole-sv4jv Well it's a bit ungrateful, the show gave Maddie a career. She'd probably be waiting tables now instead of being a millionaire influencer/actress.
High school never ends. Its just a microcosm of the world at large. Cycles repeat themselves. That's why we (most ppl in the world) become our parents.
@@clairevictoria4319 why was she there? she didn't make dance moms famous, she wasn't an og, she left at the weridest time of the season, she clearly had beef with the other cast (as shown in the preview), she labelled as problematic. so what was the reason then? 🤓
I believe she was invited because the show could benefit from her presence since at the time the reunion was filmed she had huge popularity. Nobody else was invited like Elliana, Lilliana, Brynn… It basically was the originals girls (including Kendall) + Kalani because she’s been part of the Og team in the last seasons and + Jojo who was invited for her popularity
rightt. i was rooting for her, she seemed just like an outgoing teenage girl, coming out, being a good role model for kids, but now she's just problematic, and i wouldnt even doubt if it were mostly her moms doing.
@@amyzerwas4211 I wouldn’t say that personally. She was a kid in an unhealthy environment that helped shape her into who she was today. Watching back Jojo was a team player she needed to prove that because she came in later than everyone else. It’s just sad to see who she’s chosen to become her innocence was wrecked from a young age Edit: I think all the adults acted like Brats and just taught the children how. it’s another case where the adults failed the child(s) we see so often in Hollywood
Just seeing the behaviour of those at the reunion on social media just further proves why people wouldn’t want to go, like why would you want to surround yourself with that petty childish behaviour again if you’re grown and healed
Kendall’s comment about Maddie thinking she’s better than them 🤣She’s one of those “friends” that actually hates you the whole time. Jill tried so pathetically hard to make her kid famous.
@sarahbrown5881 Well she could have accidentally liked it but she did make a different vocal comment about it, and her tone to me sounded like she was shading them more than the actual comment.
I think Maddie and Kendall could’ve been rlly close but Jill always put Kendall ahead trying to suck up to Abby and talking down on maddie. I think any jealousy that’s been formed over the years started through their mothers
Jojo, Kalani and Kendall and their mothers are projecting their insecurities of their careers onto Nia, Maddie and Kenzie. They knew what they wanted when they joined the show, the OG girls faced trauma that they didn’t even sign up for. And Jojo needs to take SEVERAL fucking seats, Ms. Abby Lee Miller Jr.
Not a single person supported Nia while she was in the team but they expected her to go? Melissa only got crap from the moms for standing with their kids and she is going back to get it AGAIN?? No Thank you!
The way grown women, MOMS in particular are making this such a big deal is embarrassing. It's probably cos they are so insecure about how much importance is given to maddie and kenzie, and are taking it out in such a negative way. Good for the girls for staying away
Ironically, it’s because people realized that Kiara and Jill suck and a lot don’t really have an interest in supporting them, but still support other people from the show. Jealousy.
The fact that Brooke and her sister showed up after the way they were treated and how their mom was made to seem terrible is impressive. I’m not surprised that Maddie, McKenzie, and their mom didn’t want to go and be scrutinized. Also college is more important for Nia than this reunion.
For Paige and Brooke, this is easy money. Not to be mean but they don’t have nothing going on for themselves. Being an “influencer” can go so far for both sisters.
@@brianam9024they have degrees and money already so while it is “easy money” your comment is kinda distasteful. Before people even knew about the reunion Paige and Brooke were doing the same thing
@@jadynarianaThey’re being honest though. Obviously there is nothing wrong with having degrees or money outside of social media, but it’s clear as day that they want to be influencers and you can’t be an influencer if no one is checking for you. 🤷♀️
@@namiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii yea but the same can be said for kalani and kendall as far as relevancy and even chloe considering she also has a dance business and she was treated bad as well. its just weird when literally every girl outside if jojo gets good publicity from this considering theyre all influencers.
The idea that everybody should have gone to the reunion to "pay respect" to the people who were part of their trauma because in the end they got a career is plain gross.
Maddie said she literally can't remember fliming some scenes on the show and, it was shown that the adults arguing would make maddie cry a lot in the early seasons. Kenzie also stated that the show was very traumatic for her and Nia experienced lots of racism on the show. So NO neither of those girls have to come back and relive their traumatic experiences. They lived through and want to continue on with their careers. Let Them.
So they felt OBLIGATED to go to the reunion instead of WANTED to go to the reunion. Someone can be grateful to their mom for giving birth to her, and cut that same person out of their life for abusing them 🙄.
Jojo i defended Colleen Ballinger, friends with James Charles, Shane Dawson and Abby Lee Siwa should never speak on Maddie, Kenzie and Nia.. especially knowing how almost everyone spoke about the trauma from that show. But of course she’s continuing that cycle of abuse with XOMGPOP so its not surprising
Nia is an AKA, one of the Divine 9. She probably couldn’t do it even if she wanted to because such a prestigious sorority as AKA wouldn’t tolerate her being messy on tv like that. Nia has her priorities right, education and making something of herself.
It's funny that the non-OG girls are the ones saying things like "This is why you're famous". Are they forgetting that the girls made the show what it was before they came along? They made you guys famous too.
They don't owe anything to the people that traumatized them. There is a way to recognize the things that got you where you are, but it's also okay to want to leave the bad things behind.
If I was traumatised by a show or anyone why would I want to go back? Bullying is not okay!!! Those girls were bullied and emotionally abused like wtf!
Id prefer to see them in a reunion when they’re in their 30s and have healed and can speak on it without fear. Allow them to grow up without exploitation for a bit… plz, Lifetime.
jojo and her mom have their own allegations against them for acting just like abby towards their girl group, she is the LAST person who should have anything to say. nia had college obligations and kenzie and maddie just didn’t want to go and that’s their right. why on earth should anybody have to relive their trauma. anyways i wish nia, maddie and kenzie were there but i’m only watching for chloe, brooke, paige and kelly, everyone else can kick rocks lol
She had the least right to say that while simultaneously makes the most sense that she's the one saying that due to all the allegations. Uugh, I knew something smell like shit when JoJo defended Collen Ballinger
I don’t “keep up” with jojo. But I feel like I keep seeing her name pop up in controversy. I’m wondering if her goal is to be controversial and talked about 🤨
Yeah same. I don’t care about her or her content at all. No shade she’s just not someone I look for either but she keeps popping up, always fighting with someone else lol. She might be the problem
I mean, jojo is more famous throughout the world. B4 I watched dance mom's, I didn't even know who maddie is. Not the whole world knows abt maddie, only jojo
People need to understand that celebs don't owe the public anything. Everybody feels so entitled to every aspect of the lives of celebs they like. It's weird. The drama between all of them was happening when the show ended. Why is everyone so shocked??
Out of everyone, Nia has gone through the WORST. She had to deal with isolation, being the only black girl, micro agressions, unfair treatment, & literal racism numerous times. On top of the general trauma this show came with…jojo and whomever else judging the OGS, especially Nia is insensitive. They all had different experiences and again, Nia had it the worst.
Thats not necessarily true. There’s a lot of factors that go into the abuse of the girls, not just their race. Chloe was the most hated by Abby and we can see this plan as day. Chloe was the only girl to get kicked off the team, Abby admitted on the Rosie Odonnel show that she did “whatever she wanted” to the kid to make her upset… she literally brought in other dancers specifically to be Chloe, and then went to the judges when Chloe would win! She screamed for Chloe to get a medical condition fixed. These are not things that Nia went through. At least not in the beginning. Chloe was the girl that Abby hated the most so therefore Abby constantly tried to set her up to fail against her friend and then would rub it in her face. She really manipulated Chloe and she even screamed in Chloe’s face that she would destroy her. And according to the girls, Abi was even worse to her off camera.. Nia actually had a more gentle experience in the very beginning because Abby would use her for the “diverse” roles…Abby was a lot sweeter toward her in beginning. Now after Chloe left the show? That’s when things really got bad for Nia, because Abby’s racism came out full force as Nia stepped into young adulthood and that’s when Nia really became the most hated and abused. The real question is, Chloe‘s abuse got so bad that she literally had to walk out and leave and not come back because she was shaking and crying and completely traumatized. Why wouldn’t Holly take Nia off the show? How come she was teaching her daughter just to sit there and take it? I feel like Nia Compartmentalized all of the racism and abuse that she took and I hope that she is now unpacking it on her own. Some might even say that Maddie had it the worst because out of all of the girls, she was the one that Abby emotionally manipulated more than anyone else. This is just a basic fact. She literally had Maddie in several panic attacks and used her against her friends. These are not things that Nia had to go through. She wasn’t the favorite (used for Abby’s pleasure) and she wasn’t the most hated. She wasn’t the center of Abby‘s attention for love or hate like Maddie and Chloe were. Maddie and Chloe both took the hits from Abby more than anyone those first three or four seasons, so in the beginning, they definitely had it the worst, and Nia kind of slid by unappreciated by Abby although she was still experiencing life as the only Black girl on a dance team. So not trying to dismiss her experience, just stating that Abby factually attacked Chloe and Manipulated Maddie more than any of the other girls. But I do agree that Nia’s abuse was the greatest starting around season 4/5. But again, her mom kept her there and Nia said that she wanted to stay there. So clearly it was something that she thought she could handle at the time. But I hope she’s realizing now that she was heavily abused, and is learning about herself now that she is an adult.
@@jessicajoerndt428 Chloe didn't get kicked off the team, she chose not to join the ALDC team for season 4 but was still on the show (pretty sure the Hylands were the same) due to the contracts that they had with the show, that gave Abby the extra streak of meanness towards them, she was told that she had to let them still be in the studio because of the show contracts. Abby was then if she can't get rid of them then they also can't leave and I can do anything I want to them and they can't do anything about it. When all the stuff happened in the last episode Christi had to get lawyers involved to break their contract and doing the end of season specials was a part of that deal.
@@amandamandamands I know, that’s basically what I said. Abby hated Chloe so much that she even talked about her on live television admitting that since Chloe couldn’t leave, that she could do anything she wanted to her which is exactly what we saw on the show. She bullied her so badly that Chloe had no choice but to leave that day when she she got made fun of because of her medical condition. And they didn’t just choose to not join, Abby bullied them out of joining the team. She was threatening to make Chloe’s life hell, and by leaving the team that was to try and protect Chloe because that means that she got to spend less time with Abby. She might as well have kicked her off. I have more respect for Christy and Kelley as moms than any of those other moms because unlike the other moms, Christy and Kelley literally got lawyers and spent lots of money to protect their children and get them off the show.
The only reason there was the idea of a reunion was because Maddie and Kenzie opened up last year about their trauma and how they're still working past it in therapy. Kenzie literally said she gets panic attacks and it roots back to when she was in dance. Leave them and Nia alone.
Let Maddie, Mackenzie, and Nia live. Maddie was pitted against all her friends. Mackenzie was treated as the lesser sister of two. Nia faced so much racism. This show was traumatic for most of the girls on the show. They have the right to not want to relive it.
It’s actually insane that the girls think that way. If I was on a show that traumatized me I wouldn’t want to go back either wtf they’re not obligated to go. And the girls guilt tripping and shading them is so foul. They don’t owe them anything. I’m sure Maddie and Mackenzie are grateful to be where there at now without needing to relive the past for everyone.
“Hey guys, I just got trauma from a dance teacher since I was like eight years old and now people wanna put me on TV and talk about that trauma. But if I don’t go. I’m just a fucked up person because I won’t relive my trauma just to say thank you for where the fuck my clout came from.” Begging, and choosing whether someone talks about their trauma it shouldn’t be anybody else’s business in my opinion specially, in today’s society. I feel like beggars can’t be choosers. And why the fuck are we always asking somebody else with some type of higher ranking about who else is doing what. If you’re that invested in someone’s life, you need to look in the mirror. There’s things in your life that you can probably fix.
No matter how famous that show made them, it traumatized them. I don't understand how the girls that did decide to go don't seem to understand that the OGs obviously know where they came from, but they are passed that point in their life. They don't wanna revisit that. But they also just have ADULT things to do, something that Jojo herself just said she's just getting into. They made that show, and truthfully when I think of Dance Moms, I don't think of the newest girls
call it like it is. This is a child abuse and sexualization reunion. Damn right they are better than that shit. they dont have to be greatful for being exploited and abused as a child just because it made them famous. The notion is out right offensive and stupid.
My grandparents helped me a LOT through college but they were also so controlling, abusive, and narcissistic that I struggled a lot with certain things that happened between me and them that traumatized me. So much so that I couldn’t even attend my grandfathers funeral a few years ago because I had such a tumultuous relationship with him. They got me where I am today and I am so grateful for that but I no longer have a relationship with them or want to attend family events with them. I totally understand them not wanting to rehash history and that doesn’t mean they aren’t grateful.
And now we see the end result of Jess having never taught Jojo boundaries, when to shut the hell up, and what is and isn’t good manners. As far as Kalani, she’s talking out of her ass, but isn’t she really close with Jojo? This sounds like two girls’ conversations that are being expressed as separate (but in agreement) opinions. I’m just a mom who had a then teenage daughter at the time when Dance Moms aired and she followed the show and all of the girls’ social media accounts.
Omg they’re so entitled and bratty even now as grown adults it’s embarrassing. If people didn’t want to go to the reunion they don’t have to. Not everyone had a good time. Not everyone experienced the same thing. They need to STFU and let them live.
Jojo really needs to close her mouth on a multitude of subjects. Also, this feels like how people attacked the Olsen Twins for not wanting to do Fuller House, when they were worked to the bone as children and wanted to stay away from acting. The other cast also "shaded" them for not wanting to be grateful for getting them where they are today. The bottom line is, M, M and N's choice for not wanting to come, and no one has a right to question it. "No" is a complete sentence.
I’m so proud of Maddie and McKenzie for standing up for themselves. They’ve made it clear that they’ve had horrible experiences with the show and Abby. Putting themselves back into that situation isn’t going to do anything for them, if anything it might hurt them. Also, I need JoJo to take many seats. Just because you had a positive experience doesn’t mean that others did as well. Also, realize that this is just producers using you for more money. You gave them years of your life, and they made a ton of money off of it. You don’t owe them anything.
Kira had no reason to throw shade like that on her insta post like audacity if they didn’t want to go respectfully respect their decisions and move on it’s not that deep fr the amount of trauma and therapy that show caused I wouldn’t have went either
Respectfully, who tf cares if some of the don't want to go and don't want to participate in something they moved past from. It's no one's business but the person themselves. You can't criticize and guilt trip them for not going to something that isn't a life or death situation.
@@Mro637 Maddie was "the favourite" which in the show meant being pushed to the limit constantly and put against the rest of the girls. In a recent interview she expressed she still has panic attacks from the show
I know Nia has said several times on her socials that she can't deal with that anymore... they was really traumatizing for her and she is over it and has moved on for her own mental well being. Maddi and Mackenzie both had similar responses after the show ended and fell almost entirely out of the spotlight.
'the reunion as a way to say thank you' - for what? thank you for giving young kids a career by abusing them? sounds logical thank you Kalani A group of adults engaging with kids like they did on that show (screamingn, shaming and pushing adult work schedules) invite you years later to say thank you for what they put you through... that doesn't sound a little backwards or even brainwashy to you?
Interesting that the 3 OGs that showed up were the ones there for the shortest amount of time...... The 3 that chose to prioritize whatever was going on in their own lives and their own mental health were the 3 OGs that were there the longest......
Trying to say that for example Chloe was less traumatized than day Maddie bc maddie was there for 2 yrs longer? Just don’t! Chloe and Nia were probably treated the WORSE of all of them and Chloe had to go thru years of therapy and had to fight an eating disorder bc of the show. Yes she showed up for the reunion but that doesn’t mean she’s less traumatized than the rest of the girls pls
i would probably phrase this a little better, that: chloe, brooke and paige had left the show earlier and thus may have had an extra few years to distance themselves, process, and heal (not recovered, but heal, as in ongoing) from the traumatic abuse that they suffered back then. it’s perhaps why they were felt more prepared to revisit memories of that madness - even if they did start feeling anxiety coming on during filming, they probably would’ve had 2 years of extra experience learning how to regulate that anxiety and stop it from becoming a panic attack. on the other hand, maddie and mackenzie left 2 years later and therefore had a shorter time to do the same, and Nia had an even shorter time. i believe all of them are in therapy (?) and suffer from anxiety too. they are simply just not as far along in their healing yet, and that’s okay. wherever anyone is in their healing journey is okay. everyone should be prioritising what they feel is most important to them at that point in time, and decide what is within their range of comfort / manageable discomfort, and what isn’t. if the 3 OGs at the reunion felt better prepared and the reunion was a discomfort they could manage (and even a form of closure for them which may be an important thing for them), that’s great. and if the other 3 OGs who chose not to go felt that this discomfort would be way too much to handle and would be detrimental for them, that’s great for them too. it’s sad that people keep going “they should’ve gone” / “dance moms made them famous, they should’ve been grateful enough for it to come back for the reunion” / “why would paige brooke and chloe want to go back to something that traumatised them so much” / “they all just want their 15 mins of fame” / “maddie kenzie and nia think that they’re better than the rest of them”. let the girls be. they made the decision they felt was best for themselves. nobody else is entitled to judge them for that - it reflects nothing about them, and only reflects everything about the criticiser themselves.
the nerve....Are we really surprised Nia of all people didn't show up? I mean why should she, she had it bad if not the worst..she is so strong and doesn't get enough credit for having danced with Abby longer than every single one of those girls. (Season 1-7) Go Nia and I'm very happy to see her having fun in college with her sorority. Even Maddie and Kenzie their decision makes sense too. Kira, Kalani, Kendall, and JoJo have a FEW seats
Yeah, Maddie was so emotionally manipulated by Abby that she said she’s been in therapy for like the past 10 years to undo it. Abby was literally living through Maddie. And as far as hate goes, Abby attacked Chloe more than any other girl seasons 1-4, admitted it on live television, and emotionally manipulated Maddi more than any other girl. Nia‘s abuse got bad after Chloe left because she became Abi‘s next target, so Abi‘s racism came flying through and I’m honestly shocked that Holly kept her daughter there. Like Christi and Kelly their girls were literally shaking and having panic attacks every day so their moms had no choice but to break their contracts. Nia was so strong but she shouldn’t have had to be? I wish her mom would’ve taught her not to put up with the abuse. According to Holly, Nia wanted to be there. But I’m sure that she’s learning about herself and her experience now that she’s an adult! I don’t blame them for not going and I’m disappointed that Christi keeps pushing Chloe to use the show for clout. I can relate to Chloe though, because Abby was trying so hard to make her fail that I think she just likes to have her chance to speak now which I understand. But in general, I wish that the show would be shut down because these kids were so heavily abused.
And yeah, JoJo, Kira and her family and Jill and her family are literally disgusting acting like they have some type of moral strength over the girls who decided not to relive their traumatic experiences.
@@amandamandamands seeing how Nia stayed on the show at her own will all of those years tells me that she probably would’ve gone. She took a lot of abuse specifically at the end of her time but yet they stayed when they were renewed the contract? Doesn’t make sense. Unlike Chloe and the Hylands, they were bullied so bad they had to leave in full blown panic attacks.
Jojo came in season 5 idk why she thinks she can talk about the actual ogs who were there since they were toddlers before the show was made. Maddie and McKenzie are entitled if they want to go or not.
this is no shade ( actually is) but once you have other things going on in your career you don’t always think about a show you did as a child. they have a “reunion” once a month….
nia was finishing up with the pledging of her sorority and Maddie and kenzie have a right to not want ro attend and one thing they've always stated they are grateful for the experience so jojo needs to stop with the drama
Half the ones who did show up don’t have “careers” lol. They try to make money posing half naked on social media. There’s a very clear classy or trashy path they all chose to go down.
The OG girls didn't sign up for what Kendal, Jojo and Kalani signed up for, there trauma the OGs have is so different. I really think it's more disrespectful to not respect the OGs boundaries and demonize them for it. Makes them come across as super entitled and out of touch. If they do not want to relive their own experiences and childhood trauma that's completely fine?
Jojo had a good time on the show because she was learning how she could traumatize the next generation of young girls from Abby, where the other girls were just traumatized by Abby 🤔👀
Jojo and some of these moms needs to grow tf up. I can’t imagine the work those poor girls have put in to move past the abuse and exploitation they were subjected to, it is completely valid to want to keep the past in the past.
Abby hated Chloe more than anyone and she had possibly the most traumatic time on the show considering the extreme lengths that Abby went to harm her, her reputation, and her self esteem on and off the show… screamed at her to get her medical condition fixed, admitted on live television to the whole world that she did anything she could to make her life miserable, including kicking her off the team in season three and isolating her from the other girls…. So…WHY ARE HER AND CHRISTI STILL PRAISING IT!? This show is damaging for all of these girls, and it should be off the air. I really wish that Chloe would stop taking part in these events and move on with her career.
I don’t know what’s more sad… the mantra that these kids “wouldn’t be anything if it weren’t for the show”… or the fact that they think they owe something to repeatedly exposed trauma, and shame others who decide not to retraumatise themselves.
I actually applaud Nia Maddie and Kenzie for not going. They are showing that they don't support child verbal abuse which was aired for everyone to watch. The fact that all these people are going on TV to support that is very bizarre. I understand how you want to be thankful to the crew and are grateful for all the opportunities you have, but you can do that without going on TV promoting a show that promoted child verbal abuse. So kudos to them for sticking to their ethics and their morals. They were children who had their parents sign them up for this. Now they are adults able to make a choice for themselves, and I applaud that.
you’re so right about the fact that maddie kenzie and nia and the other OG girls making dance moms big for them. honestly disgusting how jojo and kalani would talk about those who didn’t attend in that way
maddie is in movies now and kenzie has a serious singing career now; why would they go back to reality tv when they’re rebranding themselves and trying to be taken seriously in the industry
I absolutely understand why Nia passed, and to be honest? I understand why Maddie & Mackenzie passed too. There’s still a lot of tension and bitterness towards those two. JoJo is still a pawn for Abby - I don’t know why? But I guess she feels like she owes her? Which is valid - but it’s also incredibly sad, considering the abuse she went thru on the show. But the fact that Paige, of all people, showed up is what I’m shocked by.
I understand why Maddie, McKenzie, and Nia didn't go, but to say they are ungrateful was really nasty. Jojo needs to shut her mouth because she would be nothing without that show. For Kendall to agree is wrong. For supposedly being friends they have to go publicly shame them is wrong. Who needs friends like that. Plus, they could all go to Maddie's house for a birthday party for Paige but the next minute they are trashing them really shows you what kind of people they have become.
Jojo honestly just needs to learn how to shut up
Fr tho
She doesn’t know how to she gets on my nerves sm
She thinks her opinion is superior 🙄
since season 5 she still hasn't really gotten that memo lol
"JOJO, HAVE YOU LEARNED NOTHING???"
jojo doesn’t understand that she can’t speak for everyone’s experiences. she was on the show for not even two full seasons. maddie, mackenzie, nia and the other ogs knew abby before the show even picked up. they have a history with her. they don’t have to justify to anyone why they don’t want to do the reunion, and especially not to her.
Finally someone who said it
Yup !
Plus, the OGs signed up for a 6 episode docuseries and then got tapped in bad contracts. The Siwas and Kira & Kilani and Brynn & Ashlee had very different contacts and also knew going in what Dance Moms was. The Siwas, especially, were definitely just in it for the fame.
If ANY
and the og’s were dancing there long before the show, some since 2 years old like Chloe
Jojo is stupid, that's it. Hasn't changed since she was a child, she's just an attention seeker who does anything to catch people's attention.
It's really not disrespectful to decide not to join. They don't owe the og fans ANYTHING
👏👏👌🏻
Honestly as an og fan im not even mad. Happy they are choosing peace. Even the girls that did go to the reunion said, it brought back a lot of trauma that they were able to talk about with each other.
@@kindlykaren1313c
@@kindlykaren1313 And what exactly makes Maddie "weird" to you? What are people giving her a pass on?
@@kindlykaren1313girl your weird . Maddie is grown at the end of the day
I get why Nia didn't show up. She had a uniquely traumatic experience on the show that the others girls will never be able to relate to.
That part!!! The racism nia and holly had to endure is wild.
@@QueenTMT1EVERYTHING is racist to Gen Zer's.
@@sarahwales6276just say ur racist
You’re in multiple threads whining about “it’s good she didn’t come she’d be a victim about racism blah blah etc” racism is racism, it’s not really a gray area. Oh, how awful anyone speak to racism they’ve experienced. How horrible for you.
@@lindseystein9676 you’re replying to me?😭
the way they reacted when ppl didnt show up, shows why certain ppl didnt want to go. Why disrupt your peace so others can have their 15 mins of fame again.
THIS.
Amen 💯🙌‼️
Fr!
It's honestly sounds really petty like it looks like they were mad that they didn't show up.
they look salty that the most loved and famous people didn't show up to give them a career boost again, their biggest selling name is jojo and nobody wants to see jojo.
I understand completely why Nia wouldn't go . I'm surprised this is even happening.
Nia was too busy crossing the burning sands! She’s in a very historical black sorority now. Alpha Kappa Alpha. It’s a big deal. She was doing that, furthering her life.
Honestly!!! the fact production is taking advantage of these girls once again.
Wish they did this on their own, and share across their youtube channels.
She would have made the entire reunion about her victimisation and "racism".
@@sarahwales6276 She would have a point.
Are you implying any racism towards her was imaginary or something?
do they not realize the treatment not only all of them got- but the racism towards nia through ALL the seasons was digusting
No swear do yall remember when she was the lead dancer AS A SLAVE???
It was "racist" when she was offered the cultural parts, it would have been "racist" if she wasn't. She and her mother wanted to play the race card, it was their niche.
Are you really seeking out every comment that mentions racism just so you can complain about people pointing out racism? Gross.
@@sarahwales6276if you didn’t see anything wrong with how nia was treated then your part of the problem
The way Nia never got a pretty lyrical like the other girls is just the tip of the iceberg! Abby is either completely tone deaf or blatantly racist
maddie, kenzie, and nia owe absolutely NOTHING to the show/lifetime/fans. they went through very heavy trauma from such a young age. for anyone who went through it step by step with them to throw shade, shows the jealousy that runs ramped in that group of girls.
Except their careers lol.
all of the og girls owe the show nothing after all the trauma they all shared. It's just some decided to show up.
@@Materialworkss They'd be working at Hooters if it wasn't for the show.
@@chalkandcheese1868girl you dont lnow what any of them would be doing. remember your talking about LITERAL CHILDREN they were children when the show started and while they were on the show, so to say they would be working at hooters as if they couldnt have gone to school or done other rhings mean your a creep
@@chalkandcheese1868didn’t know you could predict alternative futures. That might be a superpower of yours. What kind of radioactive spider bit you?
Out of all those girls Jojo, was there the shortest, but she has the loudest mouth, typical
She's also made the most profits out of all of them, so I think she should feel pretty comfortable
she’s still young & learning. i wish this channel didn’t encourage hating on other girls all the time. like i’m sure y’all wouldn’t want that done to you
@angel-fk6rn is not 12, she's like 20 now
@@angel-fk6rn she is a grown adult who should know right from young. she should know when its appropriate for her to speak and when not to, and most of the time when she does, its never her situation to speak on. yes, shes young, but she should know better.
@@nalee4189 okay but she’s 20 with the mind of an 11 year old… she’s still growing up & learning at the end of the day. i’m sure everyone knows that by now
how do y’all expect her to act like an adult when the media literally made her dress and act like a child until she turned 18? how do you expect her to act when even as a grown up teenager she was forced to act childish, attend kid’s birthday parties and act younger than her age?
Jojo really needs to take several seats
Jojo isn’t the only person who think this way though it’s also, Kendall, Kalani and Kira
@@justsochelseaso? It’s still not something she should have said
@@justsochelsea Yeah I know, but Jojo has been vocal about A LOT of shit lately
@@justsochelseayes and they’re the worst on the show lol
Tbh I’m wondering if after the XOMG drama if they’re gonna try to edit her out of the reunion. Not sure if it’s a coincidence or not but she wasn’t in one of the promo videos they did of them reacting to the cringiest dances.
I love how Jojo talked about them “erasing their past” when her mother is actively erasing any evidence of their girl group’s original lineup.
Yes, after each person was out of the group it was like they never existed (well they wish it was that way anyway). The interviews the girls did when it got down to 3 members they had obviously been well coached as the narrative that they gave of how the group got together was technically correct, they gave the impression that there was only supposed to be the 3 of them though.
Which group are we talking about?
@@igotpushed_ XOMG Pop, a girl pop group that is owned by Jess and JoJo Siwa. They had a reality elimination show to come up with the girls in the group (and brought back one girl that was eliminated). The original group in 2021 was 7 girls aged 10-14, they fired on girl in Sept 2022, another girl in May 2023 and 2 more girls left in Aug 2022. In Sept they hired one new girl. The current group is 4 girls aged 10-13.
Great point. The hypocrisy is unbelievable. And keep in mind, this is the girl who just said “There’s no such thing as stealing”. Jocelyn did a great job, didn’t she?
The OG cast like Maddie, Mackenzie, and Nia made DANCE MOMs famous not the other way around. They owe dance moms nothing and Dance Moms owe them everything to be able to say successful people like them contributed to their shows success.
THIS!!!
Louder for the people in the back!
Ridiculous comment, they would be in Pittsburgh going to college with 100 followers on Instagram without the show.
@@chalkandcheese1868 ok and? most of the other girls are doing that after having been on the show. The show didn't guarantee them success; SIA gave Maddie a platform after the show. Sia was the source of her success.
@@Nicole-sv4jv Well it's a bit ungrateful, the show gave Maddie a career. She'd probably be waiting tables now instead of being a millionaire influencer/actress.
they act like people who peaked in high school, no joke. even their mothers…so i can see the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.
Yes good comment. Reminds me of high school reunions lol
High school never ends. Its just a microcosm of the world at large. Cycles repeat themselves. That's why we (most ppl in the world) become our parents.
real (also atsushi !!!)
jojo was on this show for just over one season, why was she even here.
because she was still on the show?
You know why she was there don’t be dense 😂
Her career is over and starting to tank so she's latching onto what made her famous cause she sucks?
@@clairevictoria4319 why was she there? she didn't make dance moms famous, she wasn't an og, she left at the weridest time of the season, she clearly had beef with the other cast (as shown in the preview), she labelled as problematic. so what was the reason then? 🤓
I believe she was invited because the show could benefit from her presence since at the time the reunion was filmed she had huge popularity. Nobody else was invited like Elliana, Lilliana, Brynn… It basically was the originals girls (including Kendall) + Kalani because she’s been part of the Og team in the last seasons and + Jojo who was invited for her popularity
Who knew Jojo would be this way in 2024. 🤦🏻♀️ Those girls who didn’t attend don’t owe anyone any explanation.
I agree but like also she was always a loud mouth but her reputation is just getting worse
rightt. i was rooting for her, she seemed just like an outgoing teenage girl, coming out, being a good role model for kids, but now she's just problematic, and i wouldnt even doubt if it were mostly her moms doing.
If she’s such a loud mouth you’d think she’d at least mention and recognize her privilege but noo
Everyone. She was a brat on the show and it went into adulthood.
@@amyzerwas4211 I wouldn’t say that personally. She was a kid in an unhealthy environment that helped shape her into who she was today. Watching back Jojo was a team player she needed to prove that because she came in later than everyone else. It’s just sad to see who she’s chosen to become her innocence was wrecked from a young age
Edit: I think all the adults acted like Brats and just taught the children how. it’s another case where the adults failed the child(s) we see so often in Hollywood
Just seeing the behaviour of those at the reunion on social media just further proves why people wouldn’t want to go, like why would you want to surround yourself with that petty childish behaviour again if you’re grown and healed
Exactly!
Perfectly said!
Exactly this
Seriously
Kendall’s comment about Maddie thinking she’s better than them 🤣She’s one of those “friends” that actually hates you the whole time.
Jill tried so pathetically hard to make her kid famous.
@@khlos_lifestyleI’m pretty sure liking it= agreeing with it
@sarahbrown5881 Well she could have accidentally liked it but she did make a different vocal comment about it, and her tone to me sounded like she was shading them more than the actual comment.
I think Maddie and Kendall could’ve been rlly close but Jill always put Kendall ahead trying to suck up to Abby and talking down on maddie. I think any jealousy that’s been formed over the years started through their mothers
Jojo, Kalani and Kendall and their mothers are projecting their insecurities of their careers onto Nia, Maddie and Kenzie. They knew what they wanted when they joined the show, the OG girls faced trauma that they didn’t even sign up for. And Jojo needs to take SEVERAL fucking seats, Ms. Abby Lee Miller Jr.
Period
REAL PREACH
Not a single person supported Nia while she was in the team but they expected her to go? Melissa only got crap from the moms for standing with their kids and she is going back to get it AGAIN?? No Thank you!
so true!
The way grown women, MOMS in particular are making this such a big deal is embarrassing. It's probably cos they are so insecure about how much importance is given to maddie and kenzie, and are taking it out in such a negative way. Good for the girls for staying away
Ironically, it’s because people realized that Kiara and Jill suck and a lot don’t really have an interest in supporting them, but still support other people from the show. Jealousy.
JOJO! HAVE YOU LEARNED 👹 NOTHING 👹
PERFECT LOL
JoJo is now the abused that became the abuser.
She became an apologist.
The fact that Brooke and her sister showed up after the way they were treated and how their mom was made to seem terrible is impressive. I’m not surprised that Maddie, McKenzie, and their mom didn’t want to go and be scrutinized. Also college is more important for Nia than this reunion.
For Paige and Brooke, this is easy money. Not to be mean but they don’t have nothing going on for themselves. Being an “influencer” can go so far for both sisters.
Exactly, cause Melissa has done A LOT of shady sht to get them girls where they are now
@@brianam9024they have degrees and money already so while it is “easy money” your comment is kinda distasteful. Before people even knew about the reunion Paige and Brooke were doing the same thing
@@jadynarianaThey’re being honest though. Obviously there is nothing wrong with having degrees or money outside of social media, but it’s clear as day that they want to be influencers and you can’t be an influencer if no one is checking for you. 🤷♀️
@@namiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii yea but the same can be said for kalani and kendall as far as relevancy and even chloe considering she also has a dance business and she was treated bad as well. its just weird when literally every girl outside if jojo gets good publicity from this considering theyre all influencers.
The idea that everybody should have gone to the reunion to "pay respect" to the people who were part of their trauma because in the end they got a career is plain gross.
manipulative if you ask me. Seems like they're repeating everything Abby told them
Maddie said she literally can't remember fliming some scenes on the show and, it was shown that the adults arguing would make maddie cry a lot in the early seasons. Kenzie also stated that the show was very traumatic for her and Nia experienced lots of racism on the show. So NO neither of those girls have to come back and relive their traumatic experiences. They lived through and want to continue on with their careers. Let Them.
Notice how the unproblematic members genuinely don’t care? Brooke, Paige & Chloe didn’t say a word about it.
Paige is such an idol
all 3 of them are idols honestly they have matured so well
So they felt OBLIGATED to go to the reunion instead of WANTED to go to the reunion. Someone can be grateful to their mom for giving birth to her, and cut that same person out of their life for abusing them 🙄.
Jojo i defended Colleen Ballinger, friends with James Charles, Shane Dawson and Abby Lee Siwa should never speak on Maddie, Kenzie and Nia.. especially knowing how almost everyone spoke about the trauma from that show. But of course she’s continuing that cycle of abuse with XOMGPOP so its not surprising
Also, nia is in college and is apart of a sorority and i’m pretty sure she had stuff going on for that and that’s why she couldn’t make it.
Nia is an AKA, one of the Divine 9. She probably couldn’t do it even if she wanted to because such a prestigious sorority as AKA wouldn’t tolerate her being messy on tv like that. Nia has her priorities right, education and making something of herself.
Plus she went through hell on that show
Go Nia honestly. And Kenzie and Maddie, they deserve to live their own happy lives at peace. Not always having to come back to their trauma
It's funny that the non-OG girls are the ones saying things like "This is why you're famous". Are they forgetting that the girls made the show what it was before they came along? They made you guys famous too.
Maddie, Kenzie, and Nia walked so Jojo could run so she needs to cool it
They don't owe anything to the people that traumatized them. There is a way to recognize the things that got you where you are, but it's also okay to want to leave the bad things behind.
If I was traumatised by a show or anyone why would I want to go back? Bullying is not okay!!! Those girls were bullied and emotionally abused like wtf!
Id prefer to see them in a reunion when they’re in their 30s and have healed and can speak on it without fear. Allow them to grow up without exploitation for a bit… plz, Lifetime.
Honestly can’t wait for JoJo to be absolutely humbled.
why seems like shes gotten beaten down enough frfr
@@jaylacarroll7284clearly not when she's clearly not learned to shut the F up and not speak for otherw
it's happening rn fr 💀just watch karma of jojo
She acting nasty and being different now
jojo and her mom have their own allegations against them for acting just like abby towards their girl group, she is the LAST person who should have anything to say. nia had college obligations and kenzie and maddie just didn’t want to go and that’s their right. why on earth should anybody have to relive their trauma. anyways i wish nia, maddie and kenzie were there but i’m only watching for chloe, brooke, paige and kelly, everyone else can kick rocks lol
She had the least right to say that while simultaneously makes the most sense that she's the one saying that due to all the allegations. Uugh, I knew something smell like shit when JoJo defended Collen Ballinger
@@yaxtheghost2249 bingo
I don’t “keep up” with jojo. But I feel like I keep seeing her name pop up in controversy. I’m wondering if her goal is to be controversial and talked about 🤨
probably is, anyone talking about you whether bad or good is great publicity for them
Yeah same. I don’t care about her or her content at all. No shade she’s just not someone I look for either but she keeps popping up, always fighting with someone else lol. She might be the problem
That's what I've been thinking
Maddie and Kenzie have both said MULTIPLE TIMES that they're grateful for what DM has given them. It's not about that for them.
For Maddie the show was just a stepping stone. Maddie is known more for her work with Sia than Dance moms.
jojo is the most famous though
I mean, jojo is more famous throughout the world. B4 I watched dance mom's, I didn't even know who maddie is. Not the whole world knows abt maddie, only jojo
.....real fans understand why they wouldn't go.....
They were minors that couldn't consent to being put on the show that made them famous they owe nobody anything
People need to understand that celebs don't owe the public anything. Everybody feels so entitled to every aspect of the lives of celebs they like. It's weird. The drama between all of them was happening when the show ended. Why is everyone so shocked??
Out of everyone, Nia has gone through the WORST. She had to deal with isolation, being the only black girl, micro agressions, unfair treatment, & literal racism numerous times. On top of the general trauma this show came with…jojo and whomever else judging the OGS, especially Nia is insensitive. They all had different experiences and again, Nia had it the worst.
Thats not necessarily true. There’s a lot of factors that go into the abuse of the girls, not just their race. Chloe was the most hated by Abby and we can see this plan as day. Chloe was the only girl to get kicked off the team, Abby admitted on the Rosie Odonnel show that she did “whatever she wanted” to the kid to make her upset… she literally brought in other dancers specifically to be Chloe, and then went to the judges when Chloe would win! She screamed for Chloe to get a medical condition fixed. These are not things that Nia went through. At least not in the beginning. Chloe was the girl that Abby hated the most so therefore Abby constantly tried to set her up to fail against her friend and then would rub it in her face. She really manipulated Chloe and she even screamed in Chloe’s face that she would destroy her. And according to the girls, Abi was even worse to her off camera.. Nia actually had a more gentle experience in the very beginning because Abby would use her for the “diverse” roles…Abby was a lot sweeter toward her in beginning. Now after Chloe left the show? That’s when things really got bad for Nia, because Abby’s racism came out full force as Nia stepped into young adulthood and that’s when Nia really became the most hated and abused. The real question is, Chloe‘s abuse got so bad that she literally had to walk out and leave and not come back because she was shaking and crying and completely traumatized. Why wouldn’t Holly take Nia off the show? How come she was teaching her daughter just to sit there and take it? I feel like Nia Compartmentalized all of the racism and abuse that she took and I hope that she is now unpacking it on her own.
Some might even say that Maddie had it the worst because out of all of the girls, she was the one that Abby emotionally manipulated more than anyone else. This is just a basic fact. She literally had Maddie in several panic attacks and used her against her friends. These are not things that Nia had to go through. She wasn’t the favorite (used for Abby’s pleasure) and she wasn’t the most hated. She wasn’t the center of Abby‘s attention for love or hate like Maddie and Chloe were. Maddie and Chloe both took the hits from Abby more than anyone those first three or four seasons, so in the beginning, they definitely had it the worst, and Nia kind of slid by unappreciated by Abby although she was still experiencing life as the only Black girl on a dance team. So not trying to dismiss her experience, just stating that Abby factually attacked Chloe and Manipulated Maddie more than any of the other girls. But I do agree that Nia’s abuse was the greatest starting around season 4/5. But again, her mom kept her there and Nia said that she wanted to stay there. So clearly it was something that she thought she could handle at the time. But I hope she’s realizing now that she was heavily abused, and is learning about herself now that she is an adult.
@@jessicajoerndt428 Chloe didn't get kicked off the team, she chose not to join the ALDC team for season 4 but was still on the show (pretty sure the Hylands were the same) due to the contracts that they had with the show, that gave Abby the extra streak of meanness towards them, she was told that she had to let them still be in the studio because of the show contracts. Abby was then if she can't get rid of them then they also can't leave and I can do anything I want to them and they can't do anything about it. When all the stuff happened in the last episode Christi had to get lawyers involved to break their contract and doing the end of season specials was a part of that deal.
@@amandamandamands I know, that’s basically what I said. Abby hated Chloe so much that she even talked about her on live television admitting that since Chloe couldn’t leave, that she could do anything she wanted to her which is exactly what we saw on the show. She bullied her so badly that Chloe had no choice but to leave that day when she she got made fun of because of her medical condition. And they didn’t just choose to not join, Abby bullied them out of joining the team. She was threatening to make Chloe’s life hell, and by leaving the team that was to try and protect Chloe because that means that she got to spend less time with Abby. She might as well have kicked her off. I have more respect for Christy and Kelley as moms than any of those other moms because unlike the other moms, Christy and Kelley literally got lawyers and spent lots of money to protect their children and get them off the show.
@@jessicajoerndt428 I was correcting the part where you said that she was fired
@@amandamandamands I know she wasn’t fired from the show, but she left the team because Abby was bullying her and wanted her out.
no one would even know jojos name let alone existed if it wasn’t for the OGs.
She wa s already famous before dance moms 😂😂
@@liakabuni4250 no Jojo wasn't famous... Kalani was, because she booked TV jobs. Jojo only did audc and it wasn't that big but dance moms was
yet jojo is the MOST famous.
@@kutlwanontsima7252 jojo did dance moms too
@@liakabuni4250you’re stupid, aren’t ya?
They’re salty because they know Maddie and Mackenzie would draw in much larger viewership.
The other girls paved the way for Jojo. The only thing she should be saying is “how can I support you while you heal? AND thank you”
The only reason there was the idea of a reunion was because Maddie and Kenzie opened up last year about their trauma and how they're still working past it in therapy. Kenzie literally said she gets panic attacks and it roots back to when she was in dance. Leave them and Nia alone.
Let Maddie, Mackenzie, and Nia live. Maddie was pitted against all her friends. Mackenzie was treated as the lesser sister of two. Nia faced so much racism. This show was traumatic for most of the girls on the show. They have the right to not want to relive it.
It’s actually insane that the girls think that way. If I was on a show that traumatized me I wouldn’t want to go back either wtf they’re not obligated to go. And the girls guilt tripping and shading them is so foul. They don’t owe them anything. I’m sure Maddie and Mackenzie are grateful to be where there at now without needing to relive the past for everyone.
This is a reunion that absolutely NO ONE needed.
says who... you LOL
Okay??
“Hey guys, I just got trauma from a dance teacher since I was like eight years old and now people wanna put me on TV and talk about that trauma. But if I don’t go. I’m just a fucked up person because I won’t relive my trauma just to say thank you for where the fuck my clout came from.” Begging, and choosing whether someone talks about their trauma it shouldn’t be anybody else’s business in my opinion specially, in today’s society. I feel like beggars can’t be choosers. And why the fuck are we always asking somebody else with some type of higher ranking about who else is doing what. If you’re that invested in someone’s life, you need to look in the mirror. There’s things in your life that you can probably fix.
hey hey @HVMENERROR nobody cares
@@jaylacarroll7284 and yet you care enough to comment.
I saw hey guys and checked tf out bc I don't give af
that's cute though you do that thing kids do just because people hear what you're saying doesn't mean they care learn that @@HVMENERROR
No matter how famous that show made them, it traumatized them. I don't understand how the girls that did decide to go don't seem to understand that the OGs obviously know where they came from, but they are passed that point in their life. They don't wanna revisit that. But they also just have ADULT things to do, something that Jojo herself just said she's just getting into. They made that show, and truthfully when I think of Dance Moms, I don't think of the newest girls
call it like it is. This is a child abuse and sexualization reunion. Damn right they are better than that shit. they dont have to be greatful for being exploited and abused as a child just because it made them famous. The notion is out right offensive and stupid.
My grandparents helped me a LOT through college but they were also so controlling, abusive, and narcissistic that I struggled a lot with certain things that happened between me and them that traumatized me. So much so that I couldn’t even attend my grandfathers funeral a few years ago because I had such a tumultuous relationship with him. They got me where I am today and I am so grateful for that but I no longer have a relationship with them or want to attend family events with them. I totally understand them not wanting to rehash history and that doesn’t mean they aren’t grateful.
NO IS A FULL SCENTENCE. Maddie was right to stick to her boundaries.❤❤❤❤❤
Maddie, Kenzie, and Nia stuck to their boundaries not just Maddie :)
And now we see the end result of Jess having never taught Jojo boundaries, when to shut the hell up, and what is and isn’t good manners. As far as Kalani, she’s talking out of her ass, but isn’t she really close with Jojo? This sounds like two girls’ conversations that are being expressed as separate (but in agreement) opinions. I’m just a mom who had a then teenage daughter at the time when Dance Moms aired and she followed the show and all of the girls’ social media accounts.
Exactly
This is exactly why they didn’t show… all of them are so toxic
Omg they’re so entitled and bratty even now as grown adults it’s embarrassing. If people didn’t want to go to the reunion they don’t have to. Not everyone had a good time. Not everyone experienced the same thing. They need to STFU and let them live.
Jojo really needs to close her mouth on a multitude of subjects.
Also, this feels like how people attacked the Olsen Twins for not wanting to do Fuller House, when they were worked to the bone as children and wanted to stay away from acting. The other cast also "shaded" them for not wanting to be grateful for getting them where they are today.
The bottom line is, M, M and N's choice for not wanting to come, and no one has a right to question it. "No" is a complete sentence.
jojo wasnt even an og, why is she talking as if she wasn't on this show for a season and a half😭
I’m so proud of Maddie and McKenzie for standing up for themselves. They’ve made it clear that they’ve had horrible experiences with the show and Abby. Putting themselves back into that situation isn’t going to do anything for them, if anything it might hurt them.
Also, I need JoJo to take many seats. Just because you had a positive experience doesn’t mean that others did as well. Also, realize that this is just producers using you for more money. You gave them years of your life, and they made a ton of money off of it. You don’t owe them anything.
some of these girls jumped on the opportunity to be on the reunion for fame let’s be fr 🤕
Kira had no reason to throw shade like that on her insta post like audacity if they didn’t want to go respectfully respect their decisions and move on it’s not that deep fr the amount of trauma and therapy that show caused I wouldn’t have went either
God forbid people don’t want to relive their trauma
Respectfully, who tf cares if some of the don't want to go and don't want to participate in something they moved past from. It's no one's business but the person themselves. You can't criticize and guilt trip them for not going to something that isn't a life or death situation.
no one gets what nia went through. and no one understands how much pressure was put on maddie and kenzie. i don't blame them for not going.
I wish JoJo would have sat down and been quiet back then, it hasnt changed over the years
Jojo, Kalani and Kendall aren't even O.G.s
Payton was on the show longer than jojo
And she was treated badly
People who actually watched the show and payed atention should know why Maddie, Kenzie and Nia (out of EVERYONE) decided not to go.
What happened between Abby and the zieglers? Was it Maddie the favorite? What happened between them?
@@Mro637 Maddie was "the favourite" which in the show meant being pushed to the limit constantly and put against the rest of the girls. In a recent interview she expressed she still has panic attacks from the show
The ones who didn't show up should just say: the show traumatized me and I don't want to go back and relive trauma.
I know Nia has said several times on her socials that she can't deal with that anymore... they was really traumatizing for her and she is over it and has moved on for her own mental well being. Maddi and Mackenzie both had similar responses after the show ended and fell almost entirely out of the spotlight.
'the reunion as a way to say thank you' - for what? thank you for giving young kids a career by abusing them? sounds logical thank you Kalani
A group of adults engaging with kids like they did on that show (screamingn, shaming and pushing adult work schedules) invite you years later to say thank you for what they put you through... that doesn't sound a little backwards or even brainwashy to you?
Interesting that the 3 OGs that showed up were the ones there for the shortest amount of time......
The 3 that chose to prioritize whatever was going on in their own lives and their own mental health were the 3 OGs that were there the longest......
Trying to say that for example Chloe was less traumatized than day Maddie bc maddie was there for 2 yrs longer? Just don’t! Chloe and Nia were probably treated the WORSE of all of them and Chloe had to go thru years of therapy and had to fight an eating disorder bc of the show. Yes she showed up for the reunion but that doesn’t mean she’s less traumatized than the rest of the girls pls
i would probably phrase this a little better, that: chloe, brooke and paige had left the show earlier and thus may have had an extra few years to distance themselves, process, and heal (not recovered, but heal, as in ongoing) from the traumatic abuse that they suffered back then. it’s perhaps why they were felt more prepared to revisit memories of that madness - even if they did start feeling anxiety coming on during filming, they probably would’ve had 2 years of extra experience learning how to regulate that anxiety and stop it from becoming a panic attack.
on the other hand, maddie and mackenzie left 2 years later and therefore had a shorter time to do the same, and Nia had an even shorter time. i believe all of them are in therapy (?) and suffer from anxiety too. they are simply just not as far along in their healing yet, and that’s okay. wherever anyone is in their healing journey is okay. everyone should be prioritising what they feel is most important to them at that point in time, and decide what is within their range of comfort / manageable discomfort, and what isn’t. if the 3 OGs at the reunion felt better prepared and the reunion was a discomfort they could manage (and even a form of closure for them which may be an important thing for them), that’s great. and if the other 3 OGs who chose not to go felt that this discomfort would be way too much to handle and would be detrimental for them, that’s great for them too.
it’s sad that people keep going “they should’ve gone” / “dance moms made them famous, they should’ve been grateful enough for it to come back for the reunion” / “why would paige brooke and chloe want to go back to something that traumatised them so much” / “they all just want their 15 mins of fame” / “maddie kenzie and nia think that they’re better than the rest of them”. let the girls be. they made the decision they felt was best for themselves. nobody else is entitled to judge them for that - it reflects nothing about them, and only reflects everything about the criticiser themselves.
the nerve....Are we really surprised Nia of all people didn't show up? I mean why should she, she had it bad if not the worst..she is so strong and doesn't get enough credit for having danced with Abby longer than every single one of those girls. (Season 1-7) Go Nia and I'm very happy to see her having fun in college with her sorority. Even Maddie and Kenzie their decision makes sense too. Kira, Kalani, Kendall, and JoJo have a FEW seats
Yeah, Maddie was so emotionally manipulated by Abby that she said she’s been in therapy for like the past 10 years to undo it. Abby was literally living through Maddie. And as far as hate goes, Abby attacked Chloe more than any other girl seasons 1-4, admitted it on live television, and emotionally manipulated Maddi more than any other girl.
Nia‘s abuse got bad after Chloe left because she became Abi‘s next target, so Abi‘s racism came flying through and I’m honestly shocked that Holly kept her daughter there. Like Christi and Kelly their girls were literally shaking and having panic attacks every day so their moms had no choice but to break their contracts. Nia was so strong but she shouldn’t have had to be? I wish her mom would’ve taught her not to put up with the abuse. According to Holly, Nia wanted to be there. But I’m sure that she’s learning about herself and her experience now that she’s an adult! I don’t blame them for not going and I’m disappointed that Christi keeps pushing Chloe to use the show for clout. I can relate to Chloe though, because Abby was trying so hard to make her fail that I think she just likes to have her chance to speak now which I understand. But in general, I wish that the show would be shut down because these kids were so heavily abused.
And yeah, JoJo, Kira and her family and Jill and her family are literally disgusting acting like they have some type of moral strength over the girls who decided not to relive their traumatic experiences.
I don't know if Nia wanted to go or not. She did have college stuff happening though when filming happened.
@@amandamandamands seeing how Nia stayed on the show at her own will all of those years tells me that she probably would’ve gone. She took a lot of abuse specifically at the end of her time but yet they stayed when they were renewed the contract? Doesn’t make sense. Unlike Chloe and the Hylands, they were bullied so bad they had to leave in full blown panic attacks.
Did you watch this video?? She was busy in college she’s part of a sorority AKA and she couldn’t schedule time off….quit the oppression olympics……
Jojo came in season 5 idk why she thinks she can talk about the actual ogs who were there since they were toddlers before the show was made. Maddie and McKenzie are entitled if they want to go or not.
The ALDC just reminds me of Cobra Kai and Abby was John Kreese
this is no shade ( actually is) but once you have other things going on in your career you don’t always think about a show you did as a child. they have a “reunion” once a month….
nia was finishing up with the pledging of her sorority and Maddie and kenzie have a right to not want ro attend and one thing they've always stated they are grateful for the experience so jojo needs to stop with the drama
Period
they dont owe anyone anything, the show was a traumatic experience for them and they dont want to bring up old painful feelings
like imagine being mad at people for not wanting to relive things that were traumatizing to them, that's insane.
Jojo can’t ever stay out of any drama she’s always in it and it’s not a good thing
Half the ones who did show up don’t have “careers” lol. They try to make money posing half naked on social media. There’s a very clear classy or trashy path they all chose to go down.
I don't blame them for not wanting to. Maybe they don't want to remember what they went threw that time.
The OG girls didn't sign up for what Kendal, Jojo and Kalani signed up for, there trauma the OGs have is so different.
I really think it's more disrespectful to not respect the OGs boundaries and demonize them for it. Makes them come across as super entitled and out of touch.
If they do not want to relive their own experiences and childhood trauma that's completely fine?
Jojo had a good time on the show because she was learning how she could traumatize the next generation of young girls from Abby, where the other girls were just traumatized by Abby 🤔👀
Jojo and some of these moms needs to grow tf up. I can’t imagine the work those poor girls have put in to move past the abuse and exploitation they were subjected to, it is completely valid to want to keep the past in the past.
The “I love my mental health girl” really should just shut up.
They don't owe any explanation to anyone
Abby hated Chloe more than anyone and she had possibly the most traumatic time on the show considering the extreme lengths that Abby went to harm her, her reputation, and her self esteem on and off the show… screamed at her to get her medical condition fixed, admitted on live television to the whole world that she did anything she could to make her life miserable, including kicking her off the team in season three and isolating her from the other girls…. So…WHY ARE HER AND CHRISTI STILL PRAISING IT!? This show is damaging for all of these girls, and it should be off the air. I really wish that Chloe would stop taking part in these events and move on with her career.
I will never understand why she had so much aggression toward Chloe.
I don’t know what’s more sad… the mantra that these kids “wouldn’t be anything if it weren’t for the show”… or the fact that they think they owe something to repeatedly exposed trauma, and shame others who decide not to retraumatise themselves.
I actually applaud Nia Maddie and Kenzie for not going. They are showing that they don't support child verbal abuse which was aired for everyone to watch. The fact that all these people are going on TV to support that is very bizarre. I understand how you want to be thankful to the crew and are grateful for all the opportunities you have, but you can do that without going on TV promoting a show that promoted child verbal abuse. So kudos to them for sticking to their ethics and their morals. They were children who had their parents sign them up for this. Now they are adults able to make a choice for themselves, and I applaud that.
I can see why nia wouldn’t want to go back to it
you’re so right about the fact that maddie kenzie and nia and the other OG girls making dance moms big for them. honestly disgusting how jojo and kalani would talk about those who didn’t attend in that way
Kalani???
jojo is a pr nightmare
They don’t owe them nothing those girls went through trauma and shouldn’t have to relive it for other people’s amusement
Jojo is a freak. 😂
maddie is in movies now and kenzie has a serious singing career now; why would they go back to reality tv when they’re rebranding themselves and trying to be taken seriously in the industry
I absolutely understand why Nia passed, and to be honest? I understand why Maddie & Mackenzie passed too. There’s still a lot of tension and bitterness towards those two. JoJo is still a pawn for Abby - I don’t know why? But I guess she feels like she owes her? Which is valid - but it’s also incredibly sad, considering the abuse she went thru on the show. But the fact that Paige, of all people, showed up is what I’m shocked by.
I understand why Maddie, McKenzie, and Nia didn't go, but to say they are ungrateful was really nasty. Jojo needs to shut her mouth because she would be nothing without that show. For Kendall to agree is wrong. For supposedly being friends they have to go publicly shame them is wrong. Who needs friends like that. Plus, they could all go to Maddie's house for a birthday party for Paige but the next minute they are trashing them really shows you what kind of people they have become.
That is y I don't like her r her mom.