And to think that Paul defeated the God of Fighting in his base form during the third tournament. It's a shame he jumped the gun and left right after his victory, though; otherwise, defeating True Ogre would have been an even better achievement for Mr. Phoenix to acquire under his belt.
The man who was able to secure a victory over the God of Fighting now can't even finish a fight with Feng Wei without fleeing. Tekken 4 Steve: "What a joke!"
Not that I'm a Paul fan, but I never understood why he became an in-universe joke character. Fought Kazuya to a draw in a fight that went for hours in the first tournament, was going to be in the finals of the second tournament, and beat Heihachi, Jin, and Ogre in the third tournament. I think he's the only non-Mishima in the franchise who doesn't have a losing record against that family.
@@melvinshine9841 My sentiments exactly. I never understood why all the character development given to the fighters of Tekken 4 was thrown out the window in T5, period.
@@melvinshine9841 Did he beat Jin? There's no official tournament bracket but it's apparent that anyone would eventually have to fight Heihachi. I don't see where Jin falls into all of that though. Is it based around who progresses faster?
Ogre vs Ogre be like : - Who are you ? - I am you, and you are me. - No way, you can be me ! _Ogre defeating Ogre_ : "No, you're not me !" True Ogre : I am a shadow, the true self.
Heihachi: "The one who kills the Ogre will be named champion. Have at him!" Ogre: "Oh, hey now, come on... Hang on now... Can't we just settle this over a pint? No? All right, then... COME ON!"
Waning Moon was so strong in this game. A move fitting of the God of Fighting, no doubt. Ogre was an absolute monster when it came to both gameplay and the original trilogy's story. In addition to his own power, he had moves from Lee, Armor King, Anna and Wang, just to name a few, in addition to his own style. It's hard to believe that he is completely gone from the series if he was capable of so much... Maybe when Jun comes back there will be some insight on what Ogre truly was.
Ogre was the (Inca or something) God of fighting. Using it's supposed essence, Heihachi probably had his team make a clone of it. And because it was just that, a clone, Jin was able to defeat it (or maybe his Devil gene kicked in) and it got destroyed because of Jin's relentless assault. Jun knew it was a malevolent force because it wasn't a pure life form. Like her, Ogre gained a lot of abilities from various fighters it defeated. With the retcon of Jun in Tekken 8, we can presume she didn't die and managed to escape and was left for dead instead.
That's interesting, I never actually noticed that he uses some of Bruce's attacks. I saw him perform that forward launching kick and the crossed arm unblockable punch. Only interesting because Bruce wasn't in this one as far as I remember
Come to think of it.. isn't he using one of Wang's grabs and some of Baek's kicks? I'm used to the move set stealing fighters stealing from the characters that are actually IN that Tekken game lol. Like Combot and Mokujin do AND he used Kazuya's rib shot stun punch. Okay now I feel dumb. I never noticed his style was a mash up of Tekken 2 move sets lol. I never played much Tekken 3 tbh
In the tekken 3 story.. the characters you mentioned all went missing. How? Likely killed or consumed by ogre..but they came back to life in tekken 5 because of failure of tekken 4 I believe?
@@daedrascrolls Yes. Oddly enough, he also some moves from Armor King and Anna Williams, both of whom were clearly alive and present (Anna even being playable) during the time of Tekken 3. I suppose we could overlook these inconsistencies by imagining that Ogre got those moves by attacking other unknown martial artists who practiced similar fighting styles. After all, in TTT2, Ogre and True Ogre have even more moves from existing characters, many of whom appeared in the series after Ogre was already 'killed' (such as Bob, Marduk, etc.).
I always wondered what that "pose" move did in Tag 2, and it's apparently some kind of counter I guess. Somehow, I never really thought about broken it is that Ogre has a move where the first hit is blockable, while the second hit isn't, and it launches. I known about it for years but, somehow, never consciously thought about how insane that is.
There were so many hidden secrets in these old Tekken games. No internet to discover all the secrets. That's why these games were so special and "mystery".
I really wish TH-cam existed in the late 1990s. I would had love to seen reaction videos and reviews of people playing TK3 when it first came out. If only.
Fucked Up Personal Head Canon: 4:18: This is the move that Ogre uses to claim the head of opponents. Ogre holding a severed head can be seen in Tekken 3's Arcade intro.
I would love to know what Ogre says for his win poses and his forcefield move. Turns out from a video I found, he's speaking Japanese in reverse. Wonder what he says in English when translated. The memories of beating him with Jin and Heihachi with multiple combos is all coming back to me.
@Tcb bct Yep. Instead, Ogre beats everyone else to the point that they are either dead, or go into hiding because they're too afraid to participate in a tournament with him in it.
4:22 - Ogre vs. Gun Jack Ogre: Call me "the trash compactor", because your metal ass is about to get scrapped. I literally looked up from my phone for about 5 seconds and both rounds were already over, holy shit. His theme couldn't even get started. That's some crazy TAS stuff there.
@Tcb bct That's true but it is a thing that is practiced in some martial arts. So I would think the "God of fighting" could do something like that as well.
Damn to this day I didn’t know you could play as ogre or even doctor b….orge grab move telepathically slamming wish they brought him back in tekken and maybe see more if his origin
This nigga bites Baek style so fuckin hard!! Especially when he fought Hwaorang! He did 2 of his legendary moves. But I think this was the point as he is Hwaorang teacher. Wanted to “teach him a lesson” I suppose lol
I strongly believe that Ogre was done dirty by the writing team. **Copy Paste of Tekken/Ogre/Jun hidden lore** There is a lot of evidence to suggest that Ogre was originally intended to be THE physical manifestation of the devil, or at least, its source. Basically, he was supposed to play the same role as 'Azazel' before Azazel popped up into the story (though it is interesting to note that in T6's scenario campaign, Julia Chang remarks about how similar Azazel and his aura are to Ogre; she even mistakes them for being one and the same). Also, despite Ogre's primary appearance being in T3, his debut was kinda built up in the prior games. Even in T1, Heihachi (and Kunimitsu) was after the pendant in Michelle's possession (that we would learn in T3 was the same artifact that was used to awaken Ogre). Then in T2, Kazuya ALSO was after the pendant. So evidently, Heihahci and Kaz knew about Ogre even waaay before T3. The reason for this must have to do with Ogre's connection to the devil gene. In T4, it is revealed that Kazuya was resurrected by G Corp after being tossed into the volcano. This means that Kazuya was alive and well during the events of T3, although he was technically in hiding. If Ogre was teleporting around the globe and attacking the greatest of martial artists, it stands to reason that he may have had an encounter with Kazuya at some point as well (it would also explain why Ogre has some of his moves). I even have a theory, that is backed up by several of the assumed 'non-canon' ending sequences of TTT1, that suggests that Kazuya actually appeared and fought against Ogre after the creature had already defeated Jun. Kazuya transforms into Devil and Ogre transforms into his true form, and the two battle, with lasers and fire turning the surrounding area to ash (as seen in True Ogre's TTT1 ending). The fight ends with a draw, with Ogre being warded off. Kazuya then approaches the unconscious, fatally wounded Jun and scoops up her body (as seen in Devil's TTT1 ending) and takes her with him back to G Corp. He ignores his unconscious son, Jin, left under a pile of rubble because he either doesnt realize he is there or he did not yet realize his importance. While this specific scenario is based off of the TTT1 endings, there is actual information to go by that points towards Jun's body being located at G Corp. T5's side game, Devil Within, begins with opening text that states that after the events of T4, Jin made a journey to G Corp because he 'heard that his mother was still alive'. Logically, the only one belonging to G Corp who would be invested enough in Jun Kazama would be Kazuya himself. So why would Kaz save her from Ogre and bring her back with him to G Corp? Perhaps a twofold reason stemming from his internal conflict; on the one hand, he may have some reserved emotional attachment to her and may even wish to revive her in the same way G Corp revived him, but on the other hand, he may simply be interested in the effects that her 'Kazama blood' holds over the devil gene (he does after all, angrily remark about about 'Kazama blood' running through Jin's veins during his T4 ending). Back to Ogre; anybody who has played through T5's Devil Within minigame is probably aware that it literally advertises itself as 'revealing the unholy origins of the devil gene' right on the back of the game box. That being said, despite the reasoning for Jin's adventure being the search for Jun, instead of finding his mother, he instead runs into some bizarre experiments (such as four Heihachi clones) as well as the discovery that the G Corp labs were actually built over an ancient temple, housing Ogre, of all things. When encountering Ogre, the game states that Jin's devil gene begins flaring up, further indicating a link between the two. Of course, Jin defeats Ogre in his underground temple, and then chases him further down into a massive ancient, crystalline alien structure (possibly a spaceship of some sort). In their final confrontation, Ogre transforms again into a massive dragon (strongly resembling Azazel, even possessing nearly identical animations and attacks such as multi-projectiles, teleporting, and whirlwinds). Jin wins again (of course) and Ogre collapses. Jin goes full devil, blacks out, and wakes up outside somewhere. Nothing explained. Or at least, that's how it seems now, as this plot thread has been seemingly all but abandoned ever since. I could go into the likelihood of Ogre/devil being the spirit who possessed Jinpachi, but it's kind of a moot point now, as 'officially', it was just some random evil spirit who brought Jinpachi back to life. Sure. Even though T6 retconned Ogre's original purpose, it still at least alluded to him having a connection to Azazel via Julia's dialogue, though things still remain inconclusive. It is quite clear that the writing team behind the series has completely forgotten and/or lost interest in the backstory and lore, with the constant retcons and lazy storytelling. A shame. I would say that now, officially, it could be that Ogre is ONE of the sources of the 'devil gene', with Azazel being another, and perhaps there are more besides them as well. If we look at the real world influence behind the name of Azazel, we can see that he is based off of a Judeao-Christian fallen-angel, that according to certain sects within those religions, was one of many fallen angels who fell to earth in ancient times and interbred with mankind, while also teaching them all manner of wickedness as well as being worshipped as gods. The offspring of these fallen angels with humans are often referred to as the 'nephilim', and they were essentially half-human, half-demon hybrids with great power (these Nephilim are compared to the ancient gods/demigods/chimeras/and various other creatures of mythology). Although these specific fallen angels were said to have been sealed away by God, it is believed that during the 'end of days', some of these fallen angels will be released from their dimensional prison and usher in the apocalypse. So Ogre is probably just another fallen angel, like Azazel. Interestingly, Ogre happens to play a big role in a couple of the more 'recent' spinoff games; Street Fighter X Tekken and Tekken Mobile. In the former title, it is revealed that the Pandora's Box artifact that the game revolves around is actually an alien device meant for Ogre to use to return 'home', and when he uses it, he learns that he is a biological weapon created to gather info on the earth for a future alien invasion. In Tekken Mobile, Ogre only appears as an NPC during the game's ending were it is revealed that 'Revenant', the game's final boss, has been working for him the entire time in order to prepare for 'the return of the gods'. So yeah, it is pretty clear they have no idea what they are doing with Ogre. One minute everything makes sense and then the next they simply forget about it and throw in a bunch of retcons. Not sure this plot thread will ever be cleared up.
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*SOMEBODY ONCE TOLD ME*
THE WORLD IS GONNA ROLL ME
SHE WAS LOOKING KINDA DUMB WITH HER FINGER AND HER THUMB
Shadow IN THE SHAPE OF AN "L" ON HER FOREHEAD
@@E24KLawson WELL, THE YEARS START COMING AND THEY DON'T STOP COMING
@@rohithkumar8708 FED TO THE RULES AND I HIT THE GROUND RUNNING
Ogre was the first non-horror videogame character that I'd experienced fear during my childhood years.
Same he terrified me as a kid
Same, i was also scared of the lizards from the sewer level from spiderman the game for the ps1
I remember reading in the manual about him and was scared before I even booted up the game lol
Trust me, this is how Mexican Aztec Alien Gods fight. My parents told me about them.
XD
Your parents must be on bath salts.
Trust me, Paul Phoenix beat Ogre. My Parents told me about that.
@@willemoscario4332 I was there March 20 1997.
Jajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajaja....
4:32 4 hits deathcombo
Ogre will always be the true main villain of Tekken. He is like Cell from dbz.
And they both got whooped by young fighters xD
Both are green and know techniques from other fighters
Nah, i’d say he’s more like Majin Buu
@@agentzurg3592 If you think a perfect physical specimen like Ogre looks like a fat dude then you are a f**in dumb@ass
@@AMMB Both green and are known to be predatory and absorbs people and are both defeated by a young protagonist with bad/irresponsible parents.
Lol against Hwoarang!!! Ogre was like, “You wanna kick huh!? You wanna kick? Let’s see how YOU like it!”
@Roy Sunshine Lol then finished him off with his own move at the end!!! Had me dyinggg!!!💀💀💀
Ogre: "Don't mind me I'm just gonna flex my power on you!"
Ogre using Baek's moves vs Hwoarang. The ultimate disrespect.
He also had Lee's, Bruce's, Armor King and Wang's moves
Ogre is having identity crisis haha
And Jun Kazama moves against Jin
@@kriisto, and Wang's moves on Xiaoyu
(4:29) That sync though.
Lol
2:48 I can actually see this as a cutscene where Bryan relentlessly rushes Ogre but he just tanks everything.
standing heree i realizee
@@ibrahimDagoat786 you are just like me try to make history
Isn't this just accurate Ogre gameplay? A being that knows your moves and how to destroy you?
This is called save reload last save and perfect👌
@@asc9360 we are well aware
And to think that Paul defeated the God of Fighting in his base form during the third tournament. It's a shame he jumped the gun and left right after his victory, though; otherwise, defeating True Ogre would have been an even better achievement for Mr. Phoenix to acquire under his belt.
True Ogre would have mauled Paul if he stayed. I'm sure beating Ogre did a number on him.
The man who was able to secure a victory over the God of Fighting now can't even finish a fight with Feng Wei without fleeing.
Tekken 4 Steve: "What a joke!"
Not that I'm a Paul fan, but I never understood why he became an in-universe joke character. Fought Kazuya to a draw in a fight that went for hours in the first tournament, was going to be in the finals of the second tournament, and beat Heihachi, Jin, and Ogre in the third tournament. I think he's the only non-Mishima in the franchise who doesn't have a losing record against that family.
@@melvinshine9841 My sentiments exactly. I never understood why all the character development given to the fighters of Tekken 4 was thrown out the window in T5, period.
@@melvinshine9841 Did he beat Jin? There's no official tournament bracket but it's apparent that anyone would eventually have to fight Heihachi. I don't see where Jin falls into all of that though. Is it based around who progresses faster?
PLEASE KEEP THIS COMING! I absolutely love watching these TAS videos! Especially the old Tekkens!
Ogre vs Ogre be like :
- Who are you ?
- I am you, and you are me.
- No way, you can be me !
_Ogre defeating Ogre_ : "No, you're not me !"
True Ogre : I am a shadow, the true self.
**I'll face myself starts**
But it was me, Dio!
I'm laughing at this too much 💀
Now I'm asking myself what his Persona would look like.
- I am you.
- No, I'm me.
- "I'm me", he says.
Heihachi: "The one who kills the Ogre will be named champion. Have at him!"
Ogre: "Oh, hey now, come on... Hang on now... Can't we just settle this over a pint? No? All right, then... COME ON!"
Jin kills ogre heihachi trys to assassinate jin and fails badly
*Bad Reputation plays*
Paul: *defeats Ogre* "Alright, I'm done. I won the tournament. I'm the champion!" *leaves*
Ogre: "This isn't even my final for-...where'd you go?"
Best comment ever 😂😂
Opponent: does anything
Ogre: *ANCIENT POWER ACTIVATE*
Can we applaud the courageous Hwoarang who was the only one trying to put up a fight? Thank you for your effort👍
Love watching your TAS videos, can't wait for the True Ogre one.
Ogre: *_W H A T A R E Y O U D O I N G I N M Y S W A M P !_*
Ogre's ending in a nutshell.
Love your tekken videos man, never stop making them
6:04 *HONEY, IT'S THE END*
6:03
Ogre: "My name... is... Dio..."
Yoooo, i read that at the same time i heard it.
WHAT THE FUCK I NEVER KNEW OF THIS WINNING POSE
If you don't know Dio means God in Italian
I heard he's said nigga
Kono Dio ga
Waning Moon was so strong in this game. A move fitting of the God of Fighting, no doubt.
Ogre was an absolute monster when it came to both gameplay and the original trilogy's story. In addition to his own power, he had moves from Lee, Armor King, Anna and Wang, just to name a few, in addition to his own style. It's hard to believe that he is completely gone from the series if he was capable of so much... Maybe when Jun comes back there will be some insight on what Ogre truly was.
The characters Ogre copied their moves already returned to the franchise so yeah (Jun being replaced with Asuka at that time).
Ogre was the (Inca or something) God of fighting. Using it's supposed essence, Heihachi probably had his team make a clone of it. And because it was just that, a clone, Jin was able to defeat it (or maybe his Devil gene kicked in) and it got destroyed because of Jin's relentless assault. Jun knew it was a malevolent force because it wasn't a pure life form. Like her, Ogre gained a lot of abilities from various fighters it defeated. With the retcon of Jun in Tekken 8, we can presume she didn't die and managed to escape and was left for dead instead.
Hopefully he comes back in Tekken 8
ohh this character makes me so nostalgic, he was the first final boss that i could beat in a game
He was very easy to beat because his hitbox were so huge especially true ogre
Till date I didn't noticed he consisted of moves of non-tekken 3 characters.
Yep.
What characters are they?
@@francisdaly1757 baek, king 1, Jun, Bruce, kuma, I'm sure there's more.
@@youraveragejoe2 kazuya, armor king and wang jinrei maybe
@@vedantgurung7189 no kazuya but Wang and the 1st king and armor king 1
Ogre: I just woke up after ??? amount of years. Spar with me mortals so that I am not rusty
4:57 Wow , that's a bloody move
It’s so funny to me how it used the infinite flamingo kicks on Hwoarang
Round 1.
Jack: *ONE*
Jack said it for the people that weren't listening.
😂😂😂
This TAS actually makes sense, Ogre knows how to destroy and what to destroy you with
Gun Jack got done dirty. Ogre didn't even break a sweat!
5:34 Damn that was a hard kick in the ass!
Opponent Ogre taking that kick in the ass at the end of the first round is what made this whole TAS for me
Awesome use of the attack reversal. Ogre was my guy in Tekken 3 and Tag.
That's interesting, I never actually noticed that he uses some of Bruce's attacks. I saw him perform that forward launching kick and the crossed arm unblockable punch. Only interesting because Bruce wasn't in this one as far as I remember
Come to think of it.. isn't he using one of Wang's grabs and some of Baek's kicks? I'm used to the move set stealing fighters stealing from the characters that are actually IN that Tekken game lol. Like Combot and Mokujin do
AND he used Kazuya's rib shot stun punch. Okay now I feel dumb. I never noticed his style was a mash up of Tekken 2 move sets lol. I never played much Tekken 3 tbh
In the tekken 3 story.. the characters you mentioned all went missing. How? Likely killed or consumed by ogre..but they came back to life in tekken 5 because of failure of tekken 4 I believe?
@JLW2490 does Ogre also have some moves from King1?
@@daedrascrolls
Yes. Oddly enough, he also some moves from Armor King and Anna Williams, both of whom were clearly alive and present (Anna even being playable) during the time of Tekken 3. I suppose we could overlook these inconsistencies by imagining that Ogre got those moves by attacking other unknown martial artists who practiced similar fighting styles. After all, in TTT2, Ogre and True Ogre have even more moves from existing characters, many of whom appeared in the series after Ogre was already 'killed' (such as Bob, Marduk, etc.).
@@rickykang4671 ogre killed king 1, and put baek into a coma. Now the others idk about
The Og Kotal Khan will not be denied.
0:41 my favorite ogre basic move.
4:43 that grapple doesn't even do the hard hit sound, just the neck breaking, brutal, never heard a grapple or throw do that sound before
Boy, Ogre surely enjoys biting people and throwing them like ragdolls
2:48 me taking a bath with that awesome theme in the background
For me that'd be 4:20
I always wondered what that "pose" move did in Tag 2, and it's apparently some kind of counter I guess. Somehow, I never really thought about broken it is that Ogre has a move where the first hit is blockable, while the second hit isn't, and it launches. I known about it for years but, somehow, never consciously thought about how insane that is.
There were so many hidden secrets in these old Tekken games. No internet to discover all the secrets. That's why these games were so special and "mystery".
The amount of trolling in this video is off the scale. XD
ANCIENT OGRE IN SEASON 4 PLEASE! You hyped me up mate. Awesome Video!
@Tcb bct This may be true. However a DLC Character does not make sence. Its not involved in the story. They also put him in TT2
@@jhindex7653 Me 2 buddy 😁
@Tcb bct Thats something i can't answer xD But still. I would like to play Ogre in Tekken 7. All the new characters are not very interesting
you are getting better and better at this
I really wish TH-cam existed in the late 1990s. I would had love to seen reaction videos and reviews of people playing TK3 when it first came out. If only.
Fucked Up Personal Head Canon:
4:18: This is the move that Ogre uses to claim the head of opponents. Ogre holding a severed head can be seen in Tekken 3's Arcade intro.
I also get that it's pretty much a wonky-looking Kuma back throw. Lmfao.
I can’t believe Kotal Khan was the first guest Character
Yup. Not only that, he appeared as a guest character almost twenty years before he appeared in his own game.
I've never seen such a bloodlusted TAS CPU
Ogre's parry is the best, his parry can stop his opponent even from behind him 2:49
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5:14 Ogre will be great for an Old Spice Odor Blocker commercial...
5:46 even on his muskier self! XD
4:45 What's 'goin on here? O.o
@@supermegab1zb1z29 missed
That was quick reflexes from Heihachi
I've always been fond of Ogre, but I've never seen anyone use them like this. It seems unreal
오늘도 믿고 보는 타스 장인님 ㅎㅎ
Somebody once told him the world is gonna roll him
In response, he rolled the world
4:23: „Round one, Fi- One“
"LOOK AT THE DAMAGE MY GUY"
*Ogre TAS notification*
Me: Oh yeah... Its waning Moon time.
Ogre parry is the best, even from the back, wow 🔥🔥🔥🔥
All those kicks in the Hwoarang fight... a form of mockery?
Lol this game brings back memories. Who else remember the volley mini game?
Just get Paul. He'll show that damn alien.
Some of Ogre's screams are terryfing.
I really like the music for Bryan's stage
Every character: can't touch this
Gun Jack appears : ONE !
Ogre low key looks like perfect cell.
I would love to know what Ogre says for his win poses and his forcefield move. Turns out from a video I found, he's speaking Japanese in reverse. Wonder what he says in English when translated. The memories of beating him with Jin and Heihachi with multiple combos is all coming back to me.
i loved how he kept kicking Hwoarong
*Ogre Flexes
Ogre: Touch me you will not
I guess thats Kotal Khan before appearing on Mortal Kombat
Kotal was learning to crawl at this time 👶
@Tcb bct
Yep. Instead, Ogre beats everyone else to the point that they are either dead, or go into hiding because they're too afraid to participate in a tournament with him in it.
My main character 😢 hope he comes back to town 🔥🔥🔥 #Tekken7season 4
Ogre probably didn't need to swallow heihachi
4:05 That was an epic dodge and attack.
Enjoyed it a lot 😁
4:33 50 % of lifebar gone on that jab OK
Clean counter hit.
It's a counter hit, counter hits do more damage
Ogre, “The God of Fighting” clearly as he lays everyone out using his shiny *IRON ASS.*
Was the ass kick to Lei necessary? lmao 0:24
And this one to hwoarang? 1:07
4:22 - Ogre vs. Gun Jack
Ogre: Call me "the trash compactor", because your metal ass is about to get scrapped.
I literally looked up from my phone for about 5 seconds and both rounds were already over, holy shit. His theme couldn't even get started. That's some crazy TAS stuff there.
Really hurts to see Jin being so chanceless against Ogre since he killed his mother
She's not dead, just missing
@@Sungura_Kaiser I know, but Jin thinks she's dead
The Leroy killer is ogre
Dokunulmazlık hareketi nasıl hangi tuşlarla yapılıyor söyler misin
I still don't understand how Ogre works.
No wonder King I died to him.
It's all Ogre now Ogre leaves through my window Orge is love Ogre is life
Never really understood why they just had Ogre face himself in the last fight. Couldn't they have made Jin his final boss?
I always thought of it as something like him trying to overcome himself in a battle in his mind against him with the power he tries to achieve.
@Tcb bct That's true but it is a thing that is practiced in some martial arts. So I would think the "God of fighting" could do something like that as well.
Ogre is Latvian city, and Latvia river. 🇱🇻
So this is the 5th pillar man?
2:50 ogre says dio, bryan mentions Kars
he must be pillar men gods
Jin getting his ass kicked to his own theme is always hilarious
The throws are brutal
Why is Ogre's bnb a touch of death?
It's all Ogre now
He fights like most characters and kicks like Lee
Damn to this day I didn’t know you could play as ogre or even doctor b….orge grab move telepathically slamming wish they brought him back in tekken and maybe see more if his origin
Whoever plays like this is tekken world champion
This nigga bites Baek style so fuckin hard!! Especially when he fought Hwaorang! He did 2 of his legendary moves. But I think this was the point as he is Hwaorang teacher. Wanted to “teach him a lesson” I suppose lol
Fun fact
Ogre - City in Latvia.
That thumbnail made me say,
OH NO JIN WATCH OUT
My Favourite character along Yoshimitsu😊🔥
It would have been great to know more about Ogre, too bad it was only canonically in one game
I strongly believe that Ogre was done dirty by the writing team.
**Copy Paste of Tekken/Ogre/Jun hidden lore**
There is a lot of evidence to suggest that Ogre was originally intended to be THE physical manifestation of the devil, or at least, its source. Basically, he was supposed to play the same role as 'Azazel' before Azazel popped up into the story (though it is interesting to note that in T6's scenario campaign, Julia Chang remarks about how similar Azazel and his aura are to Ogre; she even mistakes them for being one and the same).
Also, despite Ogre's primary appearance being in T3, his debut was kinda built up in the prior games. Even in T1, Heihachi (and Kunimitsu) was after the pendant in Michelle's possession (that we would learn in T3 was the same artifact that was used to awaken Ogre). Then in T2, Kazuya ALSO was after the pendant. So evidently, Heihahci and Kaz knew about Ogre even waaay before T3. The reason for this must have to do with Ogre's connection to the devil gene.
In T4, it is revealed that Kazuya was resurrected by G Corp after being tossed into the volcano. This means that Kazuya was alive and well during the events of T3, although he was technically in hiding. If Ogre was teleporting around the globe and attacking the greatest of martial artists, it stands to reason that he may have had an encounter with Kazuya at some point as well (it would also explain why Ogre has some of his moves).
I even have a theory, that is backed up by several of the assumed 'non-canon' ending sequences of TTT1, that suggests that Kazuya actually appeared and fought against Ogre after the creature had already defeated Jun. Kazuya transforms into Devil and Ogre transforms into his true form, and the two battle, with lasers and fire turning the surrounding area to ash (as seen in True Ogre's TTT1 ending). The fight ends with a draw, with Ogre being warded off. Kazuya then approaches the unconscious, fatally wounded Jun and scoops up her body (as seen in Devil's TTT1 ending) and takes her with him back to G Corp. He ignores his unconscious son, Jin, left under a pile of rubble because he either doesnt realize he is there or he did not yet realize his importance.
While this specific scenario is based off of the TTT1 endings, there is actual information to go by that points towards Jun's body being located at G Corp. T5's side game, Devil Within, begins with opening text that states that after the events of T4, Jin made a journey to G Corp because he 'heard that his mother was still alive'. Logically, the only one belonging to G Corp who would be invested enough in Jun Kazama would be Kazuya himself.
So why would Kaz save her from Ogre and bring her back with him to G Corp? Perhaps a twofold reason stemming from his internal conflict; on the one hand, he may have some reserved emotional attachment to her and may even wish to revive her in the same way G Corp revived him, but on the other hand, he may simply be interested in the effects that her 'Kazama blood' holds over the devil gene (he does after all, angrily remark about about 'Kazama blood' running through Jin's veins during his T4 ending).
Back to Ogre; anybody who has played through T5's Devil Within minigame is probably aware that it literally advertises itself as 'revealing the unholy origins of the devil gene' right on the back of the game box. That being said, despite the reasoning for Jin's adventure being the search for Jun, instead of finding his mother, he instead runs into some bizarre experiments (such as four Heihachi clones) as well as the discovery that the G Corp labs were actually built over an ancient temple, housing Ogre, of all things.
When encountering Ogre, the game states that Jin's devil gene begins flaring up, further indicating a link between the two. Of course, Jin defeats Ogre in his underground temple, and then chases him further down into a massive ancient, crystalline alien structure (possibly a spaceship of some sort). In their final confrontation, Ogre transforms again into a massive dragon (strongly resembling Azazel, even possessing nearly identical animations and attacks such as multi-projectiles, teleporting, and whirlwinds). Jin wins again (of course) and Ogre collapses. Jin goes full devil, blacks out, and wakes up outside somewhere.
Nothing explained.
Or at least, that's how it seems now, as this plot thread has been seemingly all but abandoned ever since. I could go into the likelihood of Ogre/devil being the spirit who possessed Jinpachi, but it's kind of a moot point now, as 'officially', it was just some random evil spirit who brought Jinpachi back to life. Sure. Even though T6 retconned Ogre's original purpose, it still at least alluded to him having a connection to Azazel via Julia's dialogue, though things still remain inconclusive. It is quite clear that the writing team behind the series has completely forgotten and/or lost interest in the backstory and lore, with the constant retcons and lazy storytelling. A shame.
I would say that now, officially, it could be that Ogre is ONE of the sources of the 'devil gene', with Azazel being another, and perhaps there are more besides them as well. If we look at the real world influence behind the name of Azazel, we can see that he is based off of a Judeao-Christian fallen-angel, that according to certain sects within those religions, was one of many fallen angels who fell to earth in ancient times and interbred with mankind, while also teaching them all manner of wickedness as well as being worshipped as gods. The offspring of these fallen angels with humans are often referred to as the 'nephilim', and they were essentially half-human, half-demon hybrids with great power (these Nephilim are compared to the ancient gods/demigods/chimeras/and various other creatures of mythology). Although these specific fallen angels were said to have been sealed away by God, it is believed that during the 'end of days', some of these fallen angels will be released from their dimensional prison and usher in the apocalypse.
So Ogre is probably just another fallen angel, like Azazel. Interestingly, Ogre happens to play a big role in a couple of the more 'recent' spinoff games; Street Fighter X Tekken and Tekken Mobile. In the former title, it is revealed that the Pandora's Box artifact that the game revolves around is actually an alien device meant for Ogre to use to return 'home', and when he uses it, he learns that he is a biological weapon created to gather info on the earth for a future alien invasion. In Tekken Mobile, Ogre only appears as an NPC during the game's ending were it is revealed that 'Revenant', the game's final boss, has been working for him the entire time in order to prepare for 'the return of the gods'.
So yeah, it is pretty clear they have no idea what they are doing with Ogre. One minute everything makes sense and then the next they simply forget about it and throw in a bunch of retcons. Not sure this plot thread will ever be cleared up.
Great Run!
that moon throw is so op
It is at which time stamp ?
Waning Moon? The fuckin recovery lmao
@@ketanmishra5430 the grapple that hits lower back with both elbows
@@yoshi9538 it's like 30 frame reconvery on that
@@trashsombra2793 and it's a throw that can not be broken and guarantees a follow up