Concentrating hydrochloric acid (more than 38% fuming)

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  • In this Video you will learn how you can concentrate hydrochloric acid to obtain fuming HCl.
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  • @morlanius
    @morlanius 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Sounds like someone is torturing an alien in the background.

  • @rolandleka5342
    @rolandleka5342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is a very good method for making and concentrating hydrochloric acid. I have plenty of impure muriatic acid that has a lot of iron chloride in it. Using technical grade sulfuric acid is comfortable since there is no need to heat things up. Thanks for your videos

  • @isaacmcginn7923
    @isaacmcginn7923 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Underrated chem channel bro. Good work!

  • @refluxcatalyst7190
    @refluxcatalyst7190 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You posted this on my birthday, rad! I bet that oversaturated HCl solution doesn't keep very well or long.

  • @tomspeed2000
    @tomspeed2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The way of your explanation is fantastic ..Thank you

  • @Berghiker
    @Berghiker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    13 years ago when I had the CHEM C3000 set I made 125ml of concentrated fuming 37.4% HCL from sodium chloride and sodium hydrogen sulphate. This was the first time I ever made conc HCL and it was fuming!....every time I opened up the bottle.

  • @bedlaskybedla6361
    @bedlaskybedla6361 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    You can use anhydrous CaCl2 instead of H2SO4. It works pretty well.

    • @THYZOID
      @THYZOID  2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The amount of anhydrous CaCl2 needed for this on a large scale is to big though. Sulfuric acid could be recycled more easily.

    • @panchisjaviergrocar134
      @panchisjaviergrocar134 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      good add

    • @panchisjaviergrocar134
      @panchisjaviergrocar134 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@THYZOID nice answer

    • @erickwalker11
      @erickwalker11 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I have muriatic acid and I need clean hydrochloric acid at 31% . Is it possible to distill the muriatic acid to its azeotrope 20% ish and then do exactly what you are doing to reconcentrate....

    • @bedlaskybedla6361
      @bedlaskybedla6361 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@erickwalker11 Yes, that's definitely possible :)

  • @karolus28
    @karolus28 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    luv the frogs in the background

  • @BackYardScience2000
    @BackYardScience2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video! I may make some concentrated HCl this coming weekend and use your method. Thanks for sharing!

    • @THYZOID
      @THYZOID  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks! Make sure to use a respirator and maybe add a magnetic stirrer below the gas generator to make things run more smoothly.

    • @BackYardScience2000
      @BackYardScience2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@THYZOID thanks for the advice! I'll do it outside as well.

  • @refluxcatalyst7190
    @refluxcatalyst7190 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You should titrate an aliquot of your product and see if or by how much you increased the concentration. Normal 37-8% HCl fumes on it's own anyway. It would be interesting to see exactly how much is being dissolved, and wouldn't be a massive pain in the ass to do.

    • @THYZOID
      @THYZOID  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good idea! I’ll titrate it once I got some new pH indicator.

    • @panchisjaviergrocar134
      @panchisjaviergrocar134 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      perhaps measuring the density, and seek on Concentration Vs Density tables or curves

  • @Clipster15
    @Clipster15 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Although not acidic itself, would sodium chloride added to the conc. sulfuric acid liberate hydrogen chloride as well? I would think so, but it would be inferior to adding chloride in the form of hydrochloric acid as you did here.

    • @THYZOID
      @THYZOID  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It would work but using hydrochloric acid is more effective. In the Future I am going to make some HCl from table salt and H2SO4 though.

  • @isaacmcginn7923
    @isaacmcginn7923 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Someone getting the best head of their life in the back

  • @kelvinpino4065
    @kelvinpino4065 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Stirring the HCl would improve the absorption

  • @melangkoh4184
    @melangkoh4184 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello friend..can you please tell me what "concentrated hydrochlord acid" means, in numbers? Does that mean it must be 100 or close to 100%? When it says "1ml of concentrated hydrochlorid acid needs to be added" for an experiment? Because i can only find max. 37% in shops.

    • @THYZOID
      @THYZOID  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      concentrated is anything above 33%. 37% is commonly called fuming HCl already

    • @melangkoh4184
      @melangkoh4184 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@THYZOID ah ok i understand, thx. Guess 36/37% is fine then.

  • @YouMockMe
    @YouMockMe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Neat... if u need an idea for a vid, how about keytone (acetone) from vinegar? Egg shells or something. Just sayin I know ur skills r stronger than displacement

    • @THYZOID
      @THYZOID  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Acetone isn’t something I’d make. Benzophenone via a similar approach has been planned for some day though

    • @YouMockMe
      @YouMockMe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@THYZOID Right on. Good luck!

  • @kelvinpino4065
    @kelvinpino4065 ปีที่แล้ว

    The water produced in the gas generator does not dilute the concentrated hydrochloric acid? Isn't it necessary to place a drying filter between them?

    • @THYZOID
      @THYZOID  ปีที่แล้ว

      you are bubbling the gasses into aqueous HCl anyways so the minor amount of moisture is irrelevant

    • @kelvinpino4065
      @kelvinpino4065 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@THYZOID what is the difference between this method and the sulphuric acid/salt method?

    • @THYZOID
      @THYZOID  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kelvinpino4065 it does not use salt that is the only difference. salt also works with sulfuric acid but i prefer this route

  • @adelinyoungmark1929
    @adelinyoungmark1929 ปีที่แล้ว

    hmm, it should still work if you drip conc sulfuric acid onto like a chloride salt? as that' also generate HCl gas

    • @THYZOID
      @THYZOID  ปีที่แล้ว

      yes this also works

  • @aamagg
    @aamagg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Könntest du nicht statt der teuren Salzsäure einfach Kochsalz in die Schwefelsäure packen und das ganze erwärmen? Dann hättest du am Ende mehr Salzsäure aber weniger Salz in der Küche.

    • @THYZOID
      @THYZOID  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Werde ich auch demnächst ausprobieren. Das mit der Salzsäure geht jedoch schneller und benötigt keine zusätzliche Wärmezufuhr.

  • @vxbrxnt
    @vxbrxnt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What if you tried mixing pure liquid hydrogen chloride with water and sealing it? Would it create some sort of fizzing hydrochloric acid?

    • @THYZOID
      @THYZOID  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably it would even be enough to bubble HCl gas trough concentrated HCl at -20*C and letting it warm back to room temperature afterwards. Don’t try this as it might create enough pressure to burst a storage bottle while warming.

    • @FirstLast-kx1gr
      @FirstLast-kx1gr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Liquid HCl boils at −121.09 °F

    • @vxbrxnt
      @vxbrxnt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FirstLast-kx1gr I mean under pressure. Same way you dissolve CO2 to create fizzing water

    • @FirstLast-kx1gr
      @FirstLast-kx1gr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vxbrxnt Exactly! I have wondered what concentration could be created at, maybe, 2ºC with atmospheric pressure.
      Fizzing acid would be a bit difficult to handle.

  • @idontknowmyfirstname69
    @idontknowmyfirstname69 ปีที่แล้ว

    You coulda also just dripped the sulfuric acid onto regular table salt to generate the hcl gas

  • @Berghiker
    @Berghiker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why don't you hold the bottle of conc. HCL against a black background? You will definately see the fumes well then.

    • @THYZOID
      @THYZOID  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Didn´t want to set up a backdrop

    • @Berghiker
      @Berghiker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@THYZOID Ok.You don't need a large one, just a small one to see it better.

  • @X3nNiaL
    @X3nNiaL ปีที่แล้ว

    What joint is on that Erlenmeyer flask?

    • @THYZOID
      @THYZOID  ปีที่แล้ว

      likely 29/32 because most of my joints have that size

  • @BlueMoonshine
    @BlueMoonshine ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I doubt that you final product is more concentrated than the initial hydrochloric you used. You are simply putting HCL acid in contact with more HCL gas. At normal pressure and zero temperature, the equilibrium concentration is 20%. You started with an acid that was more concentrated (the usual commercial grade 38% I assume). Such concentration is already fuming, so in an open container, it loses gas, hence the concentration decreases. Being in contact with more HCl gas won't make it being absorbed. In order to have a higher concentration, you would need to do it under high pressure.

    • @THYZOID
      @THYZOID  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      of course it is more concentrated. we began with 33% HCl. look at the video. see these bubbled dissolving instantly? you don´t even need high pressures to make it more concentrated only lower temperatures

  • @Yranniel
    @Yranniel ปีที่แล้ว

    how to dillute 70% hcl to 35% of 5?

  • @nasifabdullah362
    @nasifabdullah362 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I use CaCl2 instead of H2SO4

    • @THYZOID
      @THYZOID  ปีที่แล้ว

      yes you will need to heat up the anhydrous calcium chloride a little bit though to help with liberating HCl gas. i will be using calcium chloride for this process in a video which may be online in about two weeks.

  • @cooldude7301
    @cooldude7301 ปีที่แล้ว

    What does hcl smell like

    • @THYZOID
      @THYZOID  ปีที่แล้ว

      it just stings very badly in your nose and throat

  • @RedDogForge
    @RedDogForge 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The addition apparatus is called what? Ahh wait, addition funnel, it's ressemblence to a sohxlet was throwing me off, lol, I need more coffee.

  • @hugostiglitz4452
    @hugostiglitz4452 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude is there like a demon gurgling in the background lmao

  • @paulchamberlain3359
    @paulchamberlain3359 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sounds like a bunch of raccoons in the background

  • @antejl7925
    @antejl7925 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wastes good expensive acids....use cheap pool lowering salt Sodium Hydrogen Sulphate with table salt Sodium Chloride heated together : the HCl gas bubbled past through into ice cold weak HCl.

  • @nancyvargas75
    @nancyvargas75 ปีที่แล้ว

    That’s nasty I was readind what does tortillas have and they have that ingredients and it looks like plastic

  • @bigredinfinity3126
    @bigredinfinity3126 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had to decant 38 fuming at work caught a lung full

  • @steamlinus9127
    @steamlinus9127 ปีที่แล้ว

    100%deutsch

  • @mackan1122
    @mackan1122 ปีที่แล้ว

    Imagine using this solution in a Water gun 😳

    • @THYZOID
      @THYZOID  ปีที่แล้ว

      i have an even better idea. stay tuned

  • @jadentonkin466
    @jadentonkin466 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    you dont need to wear gas mask for hcl its not that bad

    • @THYZOID
      @THYZOID  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I value my health so id still recommend to wear one when dealing with HCl as a gas

    • @rolandleka5342
      @rolandleka5342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You can easily get a pulmonary edema breathing it in. It’s pretty nasty

    • @lagrangiankid378
      @lagrangiankid378 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It really depends on the concentration.

  • @skeeviesteve1071
    @skeeviesteve1071 ปีที่แล้ว

    @THYZOID ...could you please tell me about those Green Media/Reagent Bottles you are using, they are amazing! What brand are they, what are they made of, or where do you buy them from online? I would love to get some for myself...thanks so much!

    • @THYZOID
      @THYZOID  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It´s the cheap bottle the HCl was bought in. these bottles actually suck for storing

    • @skeeviesteve1071
      @skeeviesteve1071 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@THYZOID oh, well I guess I'm glad I asked before trying to buy some 🤣... Thank you for getting back to me, I really love the videos, thank you for sharing your knowledge and experiences.