The intro for this was down right stunning. As was your jurassic world vs video. I love your channel so much. Btw when will you be releasing your Ghostbusters Vs video?
Thanks so much for the nice words buddy. I put a lot of work into some of these intros and I am so glad that you like them. The Ghostbusters versus video is going to take a while. As I was writing the script I realised that there is SO MUCH to talk about. So this will definitely be one of my more longer versus videos. And I want to make sure that I can make it as great as possible. So it will take a while, but in the meantime I will have plenty more on the way.
@@EricCarter12 no problem bro. You do a good job by making me excited for every video that comes out anyway. And that's fine if it I going to take a while because i can wait for as long as possible. Keep up the amazing work and soon you will become alot more popular than you are now!
@@EricCarter12np again :D. just one more thing (I'm so sorry if I'm talking to much or I'm annoying it's just love commenting on your vids because of how good they are) have you seen Disney's jungle book. If so i would love to see a VS video of the jungle book vs mowgli by Warner bros because i would love to see your opinion of disney and Warner bros movies outside of the DCEU or the MCU. It would be quite facinating to see your opinion on who portrays which better.
The suicide scene was really well done. As a kid, I had no idea why a man was falling off the building. I just assumed that someone pushed him off or something.
When Oliver Sansweet yelled at Mr. Incredible for "ruining his death," I only thought it was funny as a kid because I could not imagine anyone in real life getting that angry about somebody stopping them from attempting suicide.
For parents, maybe. Kids don't give a flying fuck about death, at least as long as it's relatively clean, without much gore involved. I can guarantee you that nobody below the age of, say, 14 who saw the original Incredibles when it came out was in any way disturbed by it. Hell, to me, brought up on Tom 'n Jerry, suicide was something I associated with comedy. Most of the time, people complaining about this stuff are just attention-whoring on Twitter. Like a blonde white gender studies graduate moaning about the cultural appropiation of an afro.
My biggest problem with this movie is that it didn't really feel worthy as a sequel; not in terms of quality, but as a continuation of the story. It seems like a lot of things addressed in the first film were just outright ignored or forgotten about in order to make the sequel's story work. For example, a major theme in the first film was the family learning to trust each other and coming together to fight as a family, like they did against the Omnidroid. At the very end when the Underminer shows himself, the family even suit up together, like they're all ready to head into battle, even Jak Jak. Then at the very beginning of the sequel, the first thing the parents say was for Violet and Dash to stay back and watch Jak Jak while they take care of business. The second film is rife with this, just ignoring things about the first film so that it can tackle those same themes over again, like the legality of Supers, Jak Jak's powers, Mr. Incredible's ego, or even Violet's relationship with Tony. They destroyed the character arcs from the first film so they could just rebuild them again in the sequel. After waiting 14 years for this, it just didn't feel worth it. A lot of people were speculating a 14 year time skip within the stories, and I think it would have served as a much better story for the sequel to tackle.
@MC Big Boy now your just grasping at straws. Let me explain what happend, i accidently pressed the enter button and it broke off. I know you're mentally not capable of processing such feats but really? And what did i say that was so stupid you had to turn to your 3rd grader insults. you accidently made up a phrase and start using it your whole life. or i mean, you're just a 3rd grader who doesn't understand what a paragraph is.
@KJ Beast I think Violet was better with showcasing her powers in the second movie compared to the first movie. However... 100 mile dash would forever be one of my favorite moments in cinema history. I was actually waiting for something similar that entire movie, and that's my fault for getting my hopes up. Violet and Mrs Incredible was amazing in the second movie though, same with Jack Jack. Just high-key wish Mr Incredible and Dash had more secenes.
I believe there's probably a good reason for Violet, she's a teenager, there's no moment in life more confusing and dramatic than your teens, hormones are all over the place, school wants to define you, your parents want to "guide" you... It sucks... And on top you are seen and expected to work/act as a superhero??? Man! I think her character was really well done. Maybe more explanation would have been good but it was really great
Another thing I liked a lot about the first movie is Bob figuring out that the only thing that damages the robot is the robot itself. It showed why he was such a great superhero, he was not only muscles, but also clever enough to adapt to the situation and make the best out of it.
@paulchucles no I’m saying that if you take out the current music for the movie and replace it with a worse score, it won’t bother me much. I can’t really say the same about pacing, plot, and character development. However, if you don’t agree with me that’s fine. . .music really comes down to personal preference
First one for sure; second was great but not on, ahem, Parr, with the OG. However, both had great animation (especially the second) and villains that offered great criticism on society (even if Screenslaver was predictable). Great movies, and could they be connected because Syndrome murdered all the superheroes, so they didn’t respond to the Deavors’ call?
my only problem with the second movie is dark tone and adult scenes werent enough. Other than that, the 2nd movie did a great job in the firs movie we saw syndrome's super hero genocide, the deaths of henchmen,bad guys who have no problem with killing kids, some guy who committed suicide and elastigirl's pulls mr incredible home for a obvious thing. i know i think too much for a child cartoon but still this is also a super hero movie and in the first movie brad bird had proved that he care about his adult audience.
New theory: Edna is the secret villain of the entire series! She’s a mass murderer under the guise of a fashion designer, lol! After all, she made capes for all those heroes and villains, lol!
Sure the first one had great fight scenes but honestly I loved the one fight scene in which Elastigirl fights what we think is Screenslaver inside of his layer. The fight is dark, chaotic and quite clever when it comes to ways a non superpowered villain fights somebody who is clearly stronger than him.
Aurelien Marchadier Agreed, other than the mind controlled heroes that was my favorite fight. Despite how it was a little annoying, I thought the part where they fight in the cage was really cool
@@jchandlersabeast Elastagirl's and Jak Jak's power were expanded so much in this movie. Violet even got some cool scenes, where she could send shockwaves to intercept the falling debris at the start, and her fight with Void. Dash never got to stretch his legs, and I don't even remember Mr. Incredible having to lift anything heavy.
I feel like the first was more realistic. The second's character design made them feel more like cartoons. The first also had a more unique filming style, as they take these wider shots that continue to pan out as the scene progresses. The second felt more bland, as we get basic quick shots that make it a different experience, but not a bad one.
my only problem with the second movie is dark tone and adult scenes werent enough. Other than that, the 2nd movie did a great job in the firs movie we saw syndrome's super hero genocide, the deaths of henchmen,bad guys who have no problem with killing kids, some guy who committed suicide and elastigirl's pulls mr incredible home for a obvious thing. i know i think too much for a child cartoon but still this is also a super hero movie and in the first movie brad bird had proved that he care about his adult audience.
Baris Bal The first film was surprisingly adult oriented, yeah, and it felt like an actual family movie, rather than just a kids movie. I think just quietly that it would've been impossible for the second film to follow such a success, just because the first film left very little unsolved. In a way, the plot felt almost like it was fan-generated, and the political environment of today means that the film couldn't tackle adult themes to the same degree of the first one. It was good, but the second one was definitely more of a kids film than a family film.
I think I pretty much agree with you - except that you boiled it down to "predictability". I think the real problem with the villain is much more about the lack of thematic/philosophical depth, instead of predictability.
@@BatMane95 I mean, they had her in the dark, literally. One of the obvious foreshadow of plot twist villains. I was still surprised she was the villain but I can see why that part aforementioned would give it away.
OMG, for two weeks I have been waiting for this vs video and today I decided to watch all your vs videos from the Lego Batman Movie vs The Lego Movie to The Nun vs the Conjuring 2 and when I was done, I checked your home page and I could not stop geeking out. As always, great job on this vs video Eric. Incredibles 2 is definitely in my top 3 favorite movies of the year with Infinity War and Fallen Kingdom.
I would give it a 8.5! Also I think IndoRaptor is much better and scarier than that T-Rex wannabe from the first movie. IndoRaptor was much scarier than a normal raptor tbh...
You, me, and people who have a pulse for Disney movies. I want #3 to be less comical and more of a gritty, emotional action movie with one final battle.
I want the next one to be a prequel instead of a sequel mildly expanding on Gazerbeam's character, how Bob Parr grew up befriending Frozone and majorly expanding Bomb Voyage's development and how Mr. Incredible and Elastigirl fell in love. The Incredibles movies in chronological order: Mr. Incredible The Incredibles Incredibles 2 Incredibles 3 That would be a whole quadrilogy just like the Toy Story movies.
Violet's behaviour in the 2nd movie is totally nornal. She's a teenage girl, which is one of the most scariest creatures on the planet when they get angry.
While they're both good movies, I think the original is superior if for no other reason than it works as a self-contained story. Some sequels have enough of their own identity that they hold up perfectly well on their own, and don't require seeing the original - 'Incredibles 2', however, would be absolute gobbledegook without its predecessor. That sort of thing is fairly common these days, I know, but still - 'Incredibles 2' is recognizably a franchise entry. 'The Incredibles' is its own unique creature.
Coming late, but I can relate. Back then I was a 2-year-old, going to 3. One and a half year after that, I finally saw it, and just kept watching everytime I found it on TV
SPOILERS AHEAD: The Incredibles=Mirage The Incredibles 2= Winston Deavor The Incredibles= Syndrome The Incredibles 2= Evelyn Deavor/ Screenslaver The Incredibles= Main Job To Bob The Incredibles 2= Main Job To Helen Dark Story of The Incredibles= Syndrome was number one fan but when Bob rejects him from being his sidekick, 15 years later he defeated all super heroes with his omdroid to defeat Mr. Incredibles at last Sorta Dark story of The Incredibles 2= The screenslaver is basically our electronics manupilating us everywhere even when we are walking outside etc. Similarities: When Bob fighted the first omdroid when he first arrives to the jungle, his vintage suit rips out by his arm When Helen was taking the goggles out of Bob and Lucius, her new suit also gets ripped by her arm
Imo, what I love about the 2nd Incredibles is that Helen is a great example of how a mother can be a superhero without losing her nurturing side. Helen, imo, is one of the best examples of a strong female protagonist.
I guess Brad Bird sees it as generic (maybe, idk hahaha) since both movies feature a human villain. But I guess, that's what makes these movies stand out from the other superhero movies: they're fighting against empowered, complex, smart villainous humans rather than a classic superpowered-villain.
I think it is pretty clear that you don't have kids. The children are far more developed in the 2nd movie and pretty much every parent, once their kids are teens, realize that all teenagers come across as mentally unstable. Violet was completely believable considering what happened to her.
I always felt the first incredibles was so great because it wasn't bringing emotion through a great story, it was telling a great story through an emotion. The whole theme of the incredibles was the feeling of being worthless and having no value, and the attempt to overcome it. Think about it, at the beginning buddy felt worthless and worth nothing because his inspiration said he didn't want his help, Mr. Incredible lost his career because it was illegalized and he doesn't feel fit anywhere else, Dash can't compete in sport and his parents make him feel like he shouldn't even try anymore, Violet struggles with social anxiety and tries to build up her confidence but fails every time, Helen feels like she's failing as a wife because she starts to believe her husband is having an affair and gets major fear, and last but not least the final fight with the Omni droid, the droid is a representation of our inability to triumph over our failures, it seems like no matter what we do we can't defeat it, until the only thing left to do is to take the fear head on. This is the genius writing of the movie and I could go on and on about how it's the greatest movie of all time.
@WWE 4 life I think bane is better than the joker jack Nicholson is great the best batman movie is the dark knight rises and man of steel is awsome the best superhero movie ever I don't care about what you say
It would had been interesting to see the Incredibles show and use their powers more to see how they could change in the future. we barely got anything from Dash, and Violet showing an advancement in their powers. I still feel the 1st is better
When watching reviews, u can start to rethink things: For me, I feel the first Incredibles is better because Mr. Incredible had a character arc while Elastic Girl, while being an excellent example of a strong female character, had a character arc but it gets thrown out the window at the inciting incident in the second movie. My rating for The Incredibles 1st one: 10/10 2ND one:9/10
9:42 I think that first argument is a little invalid simply because the second movie is in fact a sequel. The reason they wouldn’t be more memorable is because they didn’t have to develop their characters. The makers did such a good job on the first that they felt that they didn’t need to develop more. You even said that the portrayal was so good that they were very memorable
Not always. If you can create something amazing, you are able to give more depth and even more meaningful events to the characters. Shrek 2 is a great example, which not only is considered to be better than the first one (that's relative), but the sequel gave much more depth to the characters making more impactful moments.
I enjoyed both, however I liked the first one much more. You cover everything I had to say, but i wanted to add another reason. I think for this is that the setting of a hero mixed with average daily life was much better in the first one. In the first one it had a great story about an underground hero going through a midlife crisis. We got a much better believable view of how bob felt about life and missing the glory days and what he tries to do to acquire it. We also saw a lot more about how his family and those around him are affected by it. In the second one, it felt more like I was watching two different movies. One a slice of life comedy about a stay at home dad, the other a predictable mystery action. This dissonance in the second one is a part of why I dont like it as much.
The first Incredibles is far superior in pretty much every way except the look of the animation. There was just so much more subtlety in the direction and execution of the first film from dialogue to how the fight scenes were approached. It was so much more smartly crafted and written. The second film feels way less smartly written and more like a typical kids flick. Still a decent enough sequel to keep you interested but definitely not even close to the original. I was disappointed that Screenslaver was a front utilized by such a weak villain, I thought the front idea was interesting but could’ve been incorporated differently by a stronger central villain. I give the first Incredibles an 8.8 and the second a 7 out of 10.
This is really cool because on a hike just yesterday my mom and I were talking about the first Incredibles vs. the second, and how the first had so many memorable scenes and a great villain, where overall we couldn't remember anything from the second one. We know we enjoyed it, we just didn't remember specifically what, you know? Just goes to show the power of--and what goes into--a truly memorable movie. This video is great!! :D
I think even in terms of action, I'd still go for part one. I just adore the scenes where Dash gets chased, or where Elastigirl sneaks into the train. And as you said, the finale is a way better too. Incredibles 2 obviously has better animation quality, but that's to be expected if it's released 14 years later.
Violet and Dash are exactly like my brother and I, will piss each other off and fight at all costs, yet as soon as one of us is in trouble, the other is always gonna rush in to help out
sequels aren't always as good as the original movies but incredibles 2 proved it wrong this one was almost as good as the original with little thing to criticize so if they r gonna make us wait for another 14 years to release incredibles 3 with quality contents as its first 2 movies then i am ready to wait.
I think vViolet was just acting agitated because she was a teenager. I thought that Incredibles 2 was clearly trying to show that Violet was just like any teenage girl, with crushes, a rebellious attitude, and not the best temper. Personally, I think that her attitude is “just a phase”, and it was put into the movie to also show Violet’s realistic side and add humor.
Ngl if it wasn’t for Spider-verse I woulda easily called Incredibles 2 my favorite animated super hero movie of 2018. But as is it’s still a great time 5 years later! Here’s hoping they make a third movie.
The score in the movies are great. I made mention to the music ramping up in tension during the story segment. But yeah, the music in both films (especially the first) is very good.
Wow, I surprisingly agree with all your points. The biggest disappointment I have for the sequel was its lack of equal focus on the children's development as superheroes sans Jack Jack. I loved Violet the most and to see her get reduced to an upset teenager just blows as an arc. Then there's Dash who just lost his fire. Original one's better for me. The second one did not allow much time to breath.
I agree with your assessment on the villains, but I think you overlooked something about Eveline. Namely, she doesn't blame the superheroes, but rather the effect that they have on the people. It's the effect they have on the society and people's over reliance on them. In a way it is the opposite of Syndrome's from the first film. They both have their motives based in personal trauma, but overall they are commentaries on society.
I had the same question, and I was thinking they somehow survived the explosion bc Edna designed them with the same indestructible material as the red suits. But then again, Syndrome's robot tore through Mr. Incredible's suit, so idk
My other question is where did the stroller from the beginning of the second movie come from. Incredibles 2 picks up right where the first one left off, and at the end of the first movie Jack Jack is on Elastigirl's back, but at the start of the second (at the exact same line of the end of the first movie) Jack Jack is in a stroller. This is prolly a really stupid detail nobody cares about lol but still
Turquoise Penguin bro lemme blow ur mind real quick fam, in the first film, where did the incredibles stay between the track meet and their house exploding. The reason why I ask this, is because after the incredibles in the second film are escorted to a motel, Dicker says that their part of the government is going out due to recent events right? To me that sounded like the first time that they're having this conversation, like as if between NOW and the HOUSE EXPLOSION, this is the first time they're talking about houses or whatever. But to be fair, the track meet was hinted at being a time skip, so i'm not sure, might need to rewatch stuff.
i didn't know that it was even a suicide when i was a kid I thought someone told him to jump and that they were going to chatch him and when he said "you ruined my death that's what you did." i thought he said "you ruined my neck."
I know. Every kid had a different understanding to what had happened in that scene. When I revisited the movie as an adult so I could make this review, I was shocked to find out what this scene was REALLY about. It's really dark stuff.
One thing the first film has over the second film (for me) was the fact that I grew up with it, and so doing so, discovered just how intricate the film was. It was a wonderful, even magical, experience discovering a new layer to the story as I went through a new phase in life. For instance, when I watched the film after happening to oversee a big fight between my folks, suddenly, the fight between Hellen and Bob felt very real. As great as the second film is, and as much as it did make me feel like a kid again (in more ways than one, I caught a bad case of vertigo and tossed my cookies the first time I watched the first film, and got a minor case with the rollercoasteresque camera movements in the second), I have grown as a person, and even try to write multilayered stories myself now, so now every layer that could be uncovered is more-or-less obvious to me now. What I'm trying to say is, the first film grew up with me, the second film did not, though that's a good thing, if The Dark Crystal has taught me anything, it's that exoteric films do _horribly_ at the Box Office. That said, I love the second film and I even was decently surprised by the twist (to me it was more about which of the Deavors was Screenslaver), and through it is not without it's flaws that knock it _just_ below the first film, it's still good enough for me to enjoy it just fine, but I hope they address the shortcomings in a third film, whenever that is.
I disagree with Evelyn having generic motives. The reason why she wanted Supers to become illegal forever is not because of them not being able to save her parents in time, but because of OUR OVERRELIANCE on Supers. She herself said "Superheroes keeps s weak". Her main belief is that we rely on the Supers too much; because of this, we aren't able to discover our truest potentials and solve problems using our own capabilities. Instead, we rely on the Supers to solve our own problems. This is why she wants Supers to become illegal. Another thing that gets misinterpreted by most people is her plan. I personally believe that it was a smart and brilliant plan. To reiterate (especially to those who have misunderstood her plan), her plan is to break the people's trust in Supers, by building the Supers' image using the media. By building up their image, the people's trust in them is slowly strengthened. Once that trust is finally rebuilt, that's the time when she'll break the people's trust in the Supers (by using her Hypno-goggles). Once that rebuilt trust gets shattered, then the public will NEVER give them a chance to become legal again. Her plan, at least to me, makes so much sense that I don't know why a lot of people are hating on her. Another problem people had with her was predictability. I guess the reason why it was predictable was because all the clues and hints match up. A lot of people criticize the twist in Frozen, saying that Hans being the villain came out of nowhere, and that his actions didn't align with his motives. At least in Incredibles 2, the actions match the motives. What we see is what we get. Although Evelyn is not perfect, for me, she comes close to Syndrome. Not surpass or on par, but close. I'm just kinda sad that a lot of people hate her because I really saw her as a smart, cunning, and reasonable villain.
I totally agree with you , I don't know why many people don't like Evelyn. For me she is a great villain, she is intelligent, sure of herself and she was able to create an imaginary villain and get the city to be afraid without her having to do almost anything.
I like the Incredibles 2 more. Maybe you could predict the screen slavers identity but I was clueless about who the real Villain was. The reveal hit me with supperize the second it happened and I love supperizes
I understand you have a lot to say but i had to go back several times to get all of what you were saying because it almost sound like you were doing a speed test of some sort to see how fast you could explain a movie. Slow down you do an excellent job and i and others would like to enjoy your commentary! If it wasn't explain so fast i would give you one of the highest marks on your commentary that i have seen!
Incredibles 2 is like Toy Story 2, not better than the first one but a perfect sequel and a great movie in general. In my opinion some characters, the action,cinematography and animation are better in the second one but other characters (and the villian), the story and climax are way better in the first one. The scene of the screenslaver´s monologue and battle with elastigirl is amazing and I think that is better than any scene of Sindrome in the Incredibles 1
Some people believe that Elastigirl "stole the show" in The Incredibles 2, but I don't really think she did. Having her do the action and Mr. Incredible take care of the children was part of Mr. Incredible's character development. Bob had to realise that not everything is about him
Let me tell you. This movie holds a special place in my heart when I was a kid. I love this movie. I love that so much as a kid. I had the toys as a kid. I had the giant robot as a kid which I love so much and and as an adult now. I still love this movie. The sequel though I actually did enjoy the sequel lot. It was very intense, felt serious. And it was very interesting. I actually like both first and the second one they both really are good
I love how these movies humanize superheroes. Bob flinches before the train strikes him. Sure he can stop it, doesn't mean its not gonna hurt. Bob and Lucius (Frozone) laughing and sharing stories about their old battles (and i love that they make fun of some villain tropes, like monologuing to the hero) Helen and Bob having turbulence in their relationship Bob going through a midlife crisis Dash and Violet getting into typical sibling fights and arguments and then of course the sociatal effects of supers and how that would cause a division between supers and non supers, sort of like the division of benders and non benders in Avatar the Last Airbender
George Mounce syndrome said that he would sell his tech when he’s old. He could’ve developed bio technology that enables a gene to produce superpowers at some point.
I think Incredibles 2 was a better movie than the first Incredibles just by a little. The Animation is better and I think even the story is more amazing. Even the climax has more action. The only problem it has is a villain problem, yes the villain is a good one, but nothing compared to Syndrome. However, the concept of the villain's PLAN was so interesting and I always wanted a villain who could do stuff like that. However, Syndrome is way better.
my only problem with the second movie is dark tone and adult scenes werent enough. Other than that, the 2nd movie did a great job in the firs movie we saw syndrome's super hero genocide, the deaths of henchmen,bad guys who have no problem with killing kids, some guy who committed suicide and elastigirl's pulls mr incredible home for a obvious thing. i know i think too much for a child cartoon but still this is also a super hero movie and in the first movie brad bird had proved that he care about his adult audience.
Yeah, that's a thing. I am a kid but I still love that dark theme you know because if you don't feel the THREAT for the heroes if the villain or movie itself is not dark enough. I think that Incredibles 2 HAD one dark scene though: Screenslaver controlling Pizza Boy is kind of messed up if you think about it. Screenslaver can basically control anyone and that's a little dark! Not saying better or darker than the almighty SYNDROME but Screenslaver was a little dark too!
I disagree completely. I thought Incredibles 2 was way worse than the original. The story was less interesting, the villain sucked, the characters were static, and there was a ton of filler. The only thing I can slightly agree with is the animation is better, but that's kind of a given with Pixar.
The story was not interesting for you? It's a good one... and what makes the story good is it's villain. I understand that she is nothing compared to SYNDROME but that is an interesting concept for a villain! But again, everyone can have their own opinions... and I respect yours :D However, I will stick with my opinion :D
@Rajatava Kar Yes,because women being in high positions in patriarchal society simply because she`s related to a less competent but more economically advantaged man =feminism,right?No,it equals reality!And no,not all men are idiots but most are!
For me, *The Incredibles* was a perfect 10 out of 10. My personal favorite Pixar film. And *Incredibles 2* was almost as good as the original, save for the plot being a bit more predictable. So I'd give it an excellent 9 out of 10- still fantastic, just not quite perfect.
What an intro! The best I have seen in a versus video in TH-cam and I also liked the first movie more and also cuz of screenslaver. I am glad that I am here in this channel and can you plz make jungle book vs Mowgli legend of the jungle. Which one did you prefer Venom or Spiderman homecoming?
Thanks buddy. If you liked the intro of this versus video then check out my Avengers Infinity War VS Civil War and Jurassic World VS Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom videos. I give them some cool intros to. Yes, I am planning on doing Jungle Book VS Mowgli at some point. Oh that is a good question. I think I would give the edge to Spider-Man Homecoming. It wasn't anywhere NEAR a mess with its story like Venom was.
Thanks you are the best TH-camr and I have almost seen every versus video and I saw that your it versus video had reached A MILLION VIEWS! obviously you deserve it cuz you are just the best :) and yeah venom sucked and Spiderman 3 was Way better for me too but the first Spiderman in my personal opinion was the best. I have seen your civil war veesus and also the Jurassic world they are all awesome they are better than the crap the other TH-camr made. Keep it up and I have shared all your versus videos to my friends (they all love it). Once again nice work and I want to see more of it from a TH-camr like you.
I would like the sequel a lot more if it didn’t happen immediately after the first ones ending, the reason for that is because in their world no time has passed while 14 years passed for us, also the ending of the first movie is perfect, the family are back to being heroes and they trust each other but the sequel ruins that ending, by making them take a huge step back. instead of working together, the parents force the kids to stay back, when the first one implies that they are a team now!?
I guess the story in Incredibles 1 was better but it doesn't hit as hard. It doesn't give me the same sense of fear. Also I did not predict the plot twist as easy as you did. On first sight, yes I thought Evylin would be a bad guy but that changed when screenslaver came. I thought that screensaver would be a male. And I do think that we get a lot more of Jack-Jack in this film and I really find Violet's story arc in this movie in this arc to be much more interesting. Surely you can understand that. And I find both of these movies to be very dark.
The intro for this was down right stunning. As was your jurassic world vs video. I love your channel so much. Btw when will you be releasing your Ghostbusters Vs video?
For as I do love both movies, there really is no comparison.
Thanks so much for the nice words buddy. I put a lot of work into some of these intros and I am so glad that you like them. The Ghostbusters versus video is going to take a while. As I was writing the script I realised that there is SO MUCH to talk about. So this will definitely be one of my more longer versus videos. And I want to make sure that I can make it as great as possible. So it will take a while, but in the meantime I will have plenty more on the way.
@@EricCarter12 no problem bro. You do a good job by making me excited for every video that comes out anyway. And that's fine if it I going to take a while because i can wait for as long as possible. Keep up the amazing work and soon you will become alot more popular than you are now!
Thanks again buddy. I REALLY appreciate it. :D
@@EricCarter12np again :D. just one more thing (I'm so sorry if I'm talking to much or I'm annoying it's just love commenting on your vids because of how good they are) have you seen Disney's jungle book. If so i would love to see a VS video of the jungle book vs mowgli by Warner bros because i would love to see your opinion of disney and Warner bros movies outside of the DCEU or the MCU. It would be quite facinating to see your opinion on who portrays which better.
The suicide scene was really well done. As a kid, I had no idea why a man was falling off the building. I just assumed that someone pushed him off or something.
I thought he was filming for a movie and there was safe cushion at the bottom
I couldn't actually hear what he said when we said 'You ruined my death!' I could hear properly and just assumed he fell
me too I don't know if he did commit suicide
Same
When Oliver Sansweet yelled at Mr. Incredible for "ruining his death," I only thought it was funny as a kid because I could not imagine anyone in real life getting that angry about somebody stopping them from attempting suicide.
Yeah no one ever talks about how dark it was for a kids movie at the time to show a man attempt Suicide.
No because it was made 14 years ago it was fine u probably never saw loony tunes or Tom and Jerry
Can we stop calling this movie a kids movie? It's clearly directed to the entire family
"a faaaaaaamly picture"
For parents, maybe. Kids don't give a flying fuck about death, at least as long as it's relatively clean, without much gore involved. I can guarantee you that nobody below the age of, say, 14 who saw the original Incredibles when it came out was in any way disturbed by it. Hell, to me, brought up on Tom 'n Jerry, suicide was something I associated with comedy.
Most of the time, people complaining about this stuff are just attention-whoring on Twitter. Like a blonde white gender studies graduate moaning about the cultural appropiation of an afro.
When I was a kid, I didn't understand it was suicide. I just thought he accidentally fell. That's actually extremely ballsy, now that you bring it up.
Are we gonna ignore the fact that they really suck at stopping bank heists in these movies...
Well, Mr.Incredible did it quite good in the first movie. He saved a cat AND got these bank robbers, without destroying half of the city.
But why bother because “The Banks are Insured” so who cares if innocents die?
You are a rude person
I can't believe anyone would ever give a thumbs up to you
@@rjkoenig3343
Gtfo
My biggest problem with this movie is that it didn't really feel worthy as a sequel; not in terms of quality, but as a continuation of the story.
It seems like a lot of things addressed in the first film were just outright ignored or forgotten about in order to make the sequel's story work. For example, a major theme in the first film was the family learning to trust each other and coming together to fight as a family, like they did against the Omnidroid. At the very end when the Underminer shows himself, the family even suit up together, like they're all ready to head into battle, even Jak Jak. Then at the very beginning of the sequel, the first thing the parents say was for Violet and Dash to stay back and watch Jak Jak while they take care of business.
The second film is rife with this, just ignoring things about the first film so that it can tackle those same themes over again, like the legality of Supers, Jak Jak's powers, Mr. Incredible's ego, or even Violet's relationship with Tony. They destroyed the character arcs from the first film so they could just rebuild them again in the sequel.
After waiting 14 years for this, it just didn't feel worth it. A lot of people were speculating a 14 year time skip within the stories, and I think it would have served as a much better story for the sequel to tackle.
Why'd you have to write a mini essay though?
KanyeT okay I’m not finna read a whole ass book of your opinion😂
@MC Big Boy oh look, a big boy going around insulting people on a Internet platform for no reason. That's new and very original
@MC Big Boy are you a kid because I've never heard any adult
Refer to 2 sentences as a mini paragraph.
@MC Big Boy now your just grasping at straws. Let me explain what happend, i accidently pressed the enter button and it broke off. I know you're mentally not capable of processing such feats but really? And what did i say that was so stupid you had to turn to your 3rd grader insults. you accidently made up a phrase and start using it your whole life. or i mean, you're just a 3rd grader who doesn't understand what a paragraph is.
Dash didn’t get any spotlight in incredibles 2😭
Are you freaking blind you blasted kid or adult
RJ Koenig he has a point that 100 mile dash in the first movie was hella cool but he sucked in the second movie
Ikr! Like all he does is do math homework and make jokes. They didn't explore more with his character which they should have done, same with Violet.
@@rjkoenig3343 i think you're the blind one here...
@KJ Beast I think Violet was better with showcasing her powers in the second movie compared to the first movie. However... 100 mile dash would forever be one of my favorite moments in cinema history.
I was actually waiting for something similar that entire movie, and that's my fault for getting my hopes up. Violet and Mrs Incredible was amazing in the second movie though, same with Jack Jack. Just high-key wish Mr Incredible and Dash had more secenes.
I believe there's probably a good reason for Violet, she's a teenager, there's no moment in life more confusing and dramatic than your teens, hormones are all over the place, school wants to define you, your parents want to "guide" you... It sucks... And on top you are seen and expected to work/act as a superhero??? Man! I think her character was really well done. Maybe more explanation would have been good but it was really great
yea, but it seemed so sudden.
@@snubbiyu_biyu Vi's a teenager... need I say more?
Another thing I liked a lot about the first movie is Bob figuring out that the only thing that damages the robot is the robot itself. It showed why he was such a great superhero, he was not only muscles, but also clever enough to adapt to the situation and make the best out of it.
You didn’t say anything about the music. The best part BY FAR about BOTH movies.
ikr
Story, storytelling, pacing, character development, tone consistency, etc are much more important than music
@paulchucles no I’m saying that if you take out the current music for the movie and replace it with a worse score, it won’t bother me much. I can’t really say the same about pacing, plot, and character development. However, if you don’t agree with me that’s fine. . .music really comes down to personal preference
Incredible 1 wins just because of the “where’s my super suit” line...
oh
Where's mah super suit!?!?!?!?!
what
@@MrGabeanator WHERE IS MY SUPER SUIT
i um put it away
First one for sure; second was great but not on, ahem, Parr, with the OG. However, both had great animation (especially the second) and villains that offered great criticism on society (even if Screenslaver was predictable). Great movies, and could they be connected because Syndrome murdered all the superheroes, so they didn’t respond to the Deavors’ call?
my only problem with the second movie is dark tone and adult scenes werent enough. Other than that, the 2nd movie did a great job
in the firs movie we saw syndrome's super hero genocide, the deaths of henchmen,bad guys who have no problem with killing kids, some guy who committed suicide and elastigirl's pulls mr incredible home for a obvious thing.
i know i think too much for a child cartoon but still this is also a super hero movie and in the first movie brad bird had proved that he care about his adult audience.
New theory: Edna is the secret villain of the entire series! She’s a mass murderer under the guise of a fashion designer, lol! After all, she made capes for all those heroes and villains, lol!
THATS A RUN ON SENTENCE MUTHA FLUPPA.
Sure the first one had great fight scenes but honestly I loved the one fight scene in which Elastigirl fights what we think is Screenslaver inside of his layer. The fight is dark, chaotic and quite clever when it comes to ways a non superpowered villain fights somebody who is clearly stronger than him.
Aurelien Marchadier Agreed, other than the mind controlled heroes that was my favorite fight. Despite how it was a little annoying, I thought the part where they fight in the cage was really cool
The 1st has more darker moments
screenslaver layer was to flashy for me.
With a slight hint of induced epilepsy.
Aurelien Marchadier but EPILEPSY!1!!1!1!!!
The Screenslaver was really obvious because of her name. Elevlyn Dever? Evil Endeavor.
The first had better action because of one scene. The 100 mile dash.
I'm sad Dash didn't really get a chance to use his powers like he did in the first one.
MrJoshVJT yeah. There was no one scene where he truly gets to utilize his speed
@@jchandlersabeast Elastagirl's and Jak Jak's power were expanded so much in this movie. Violet even got some cool scenes, where she could send shockwaves to intercept the falling debris at the start, and her fight with Void. Dash never got to stretch his legs, and I don't even remember Mr. Incredible having to lift anything heavy.
I (personally) think that they nerfed him here,Dash could just remove those goggles from there eyes
Not that the Incredibles 2 was bad, it was just overrated and overhyped. Good but met my expectations that it wasn't going to be better
KingCodester111, and I feel that it retreaded a lot of the same arcs- like Violet literally does the exact same thing.
Same here
Incredibles 2 should be called *Elastigirl and her family.*
maaanja3D You mean the same way that the first film should be called Mr. Incredible and his family?
dim I guess you’re right and I don’t want to argue about this. I don’t know, her having the spotlight just didn’t bother me
Incredibles 2 = Jack Jack save a day
Lol XD
No that's a horrible title
I feel like the first was more realistic. The second's character design made them feel more like cartoons. The first also had a more unique filming style, as they take these wider shots that continue to pan out as the scene progresses. The second felt more bland, as we get basic quick shots that make it a different experience, but not a bad one.
my only problem with the second movie is dark tone and adult scenes werent enough. Other than that, the 2nd movie did a great job
in the firs movie we saw syndrome's super hero genocide, the deaths of henchmen,bad guys who have no problem with killing kids, some guy who committed suicide and elastigirl's pulls mr incredible home for a obvious thing.
i know i think too much for a child cartoon but still this is also a super hero movie and in the first movie brad bird had proved that he care about his adult audience.
Baris Bal The first film was surprisingly adult oriented, yeah, and it felt like an actual family movie, rather than just a kids movie. I think just quietly that it would've been impossible for the second film to follow such a success, just because the first film left very little unsolved. In a way, the plot felt almost like it was fan-generated, and the political environment of today means that the film couldn't tackle adult themes to the same degree of the first one. It was good, but the second one was definitely more of a kids film than a family film.
I think I pretty much agree with you - except that you boiled it down to "predictability". I think the real problem with the villain is much more about the lack of thematic/philosophical depth, instead of predictability.
I still wanna see what happens with The Underminner
As a teenage girl I feel like Violet is the most relatable character ever.
violet is like a girl version of peter parker. thats what makes her relatable.
She is such a mood!😎
As a 13 year old boy I can relate to dash
@@kpitgro3012 _it defines who I am_
yep
Evelyn shows up = Plot twist ruined
@@BatMane95 I mean, they had her in the dark, literally. One of the obvious foreshadow of plot twist villains. I was still surprised she was the villain but I can see why that part aforementioned would give it away.
Yeah,that was quite predictable
OMG, for two weeks I have been waiting for this vs video and today I decided to watch all your vs videos from the Lego Batman Movie vs The Lego Movie to The Nun vs the Conjuring 2 and when I was done, I checked your home page and I could not stop geeking out. As always, great job on this vs video Eric. Incredibles 2 is definitely in my top 3 favorite movies of the year with Infinity War and Fallen Kingdom.
Finally another person who likes fallen kingdom. That movie is so underrated. It has so much tension in it in every dinosaur chase scene!
Definitely, I liked it better than the first Jurassic World and I would give it a 9/10.
I would give it a 8.5! Also I think IndoRaptor is much better and scarier than that T-Rex wannabe from the first movie. IndoRaptor was much scarier than a normal raptor tbh...
I want an incredible 3 who else
You, me, and people who have a pulse for Disney movies. I want #3 to be less comical and more of a gritty, emotional action movie with one final battle.
That’ll be 15-20yrs from now
Ashley Wilkes 100 years actually get it right
@@notoriouseagle1074 And it should be where the kids are older
I want the next one to be a prequel instead of a sequel mildly expanding on Gazerbeam's character, how Bob Parr grew up befriending Frozone and majorly expanding Bomb Voyage's development and how Mr. Incredible and Elastigirl fell in love.
The Incredibles movies in chronological order:
Mr. Incredible
The Incredibles
Incredibles 2
Incredibles 3
That would be a whole quadrilogy just like the Toy Story movies.
After 14 long years, Eric Carter finally dropped the incredibles vs the incredibles 2 video. Jk 😂😂
SHINDAINDIAN :0 14? I thought it was 15 years??
LaBoo T2609 idk
Violet's behaviour in the 2nd movie is totally nornal. She's a teenage girl, which is one of the most scariest creatures on the planet when they get angry.
*normal*
“The Incredibles 2 plot is predictable” THE MAIN VILLAIN’S NAME IS EVELYN DEAVOR, LITERALLY JUST MISPRONOUNCED EVIL ENDEAVOR
While they're both good movies, I think the original is superior if for no other reason than it works as a self-contained story. Some sequels have enough of their own identity that they hold up perfectly well on their own, and don't require seeing the original - 'Incredibles 2', however, would be absolute gobbledegook without its predecessor. That sort of thing is fairly common these days, I know, but still - 'Incredibles 2' is recognizably a franchise entry. 'The Incredibles' is its own unique creature.
You should do a tv vs series like clone wars 2003 vs clone wars 2008 that would be cool
I understand where he comes from
that feeling when you weren't around when the first incridibles came out
Jesus Christ, I'm old.
Lol I remember watching it in theaters, it was fucking awesome
Coming late, but I can relate. Back then I was a 2-year-old, going to 3. One and a half year after that, I finally saw it, and just kept watching everytime I found it on TV
SPOILERS AHEAD:
The Incredibles=Mirage The Incredibles 2= Winston Deavor
The Incredibles= Syndrome The Incredibles 2= Evelyn Deavor/ Screenslaver
The Incredibles= Main Job To Bob The Incredibles 2= Main Job To Helen
Dark Story of The Incredibles= Syndrome was number one fan but when Bob rejects him from being his sidekick, 15 years later he defeated all super heroes with his omdroid to defeat Mr. Incredibles at last
Sorta Dark story of The Incredibles 2= The screenslaver is basically our electronics manupilating us everywhere even when we are walking outside etc.
Similarities: When Bob fighted the first omdroid when he first arrives to the jungle, his vintage suit rips out by his arm
When Helen was taking the goggles out of Bob and Lucius, her new suit also gets ripped by her arm
Imo, what I love about the 2nd Incredibles is that Helen is a great example of how a mother can be a superhero without losing her nurturing side. Helen, imo, is one of the best examples of a strong female protagonist.
I just want the bad guy to have real superpowers
I guess Brad Bird sees it as generic (maybe, idk hahaha) since both movies feature a human villain. But I guess, that's what makes these movies stand out from the other superhero movies: they're fighting against empowered, complex, smart villainous humans rather than a classic superpowered-villain.
@@naniwaluckybi wow, I never thought of it that way! Good point!
Wow, that Violent rant haha.
Perfect video, on point as always!
I needed this!!! Thanks so much Eric!
Omg Eric you are my favorite channel and reviewer! Thanks for noticing me lol!
Lol, no problem buddy. :)
I think violet being angry was supposed to be puberty or mood swings or something
The first is infinite times better
Heck The Incredibles 2 is just average in general
story was weak. to much going on. I dont kno why they had to put cussing in it. Its like comon now
I think it is pretty clear that you don't have kids. The children are far more developed in the 2nd movie and pretty much every parent, once their kids are teens, realize that all teenagers come across as mentally unstable. Violet was completely believable considering what happened to her.
The second movie is bullshit in that aspect
I always felt the first incredibles was so great because it wasn't bringing emotion through a great story, it was telling a great story through an emotion. The whole theme of the incredibles was the feeling of being worthless and having no value, and the attempt to overcome it. Think about it, at the beginning buddy felt worthless and worth nothing because his inspiration said he didn't want his help, Mr. Incredible lost his career because it was illegalized and he doesn't feel fit anywhere else, Dash can't compete in sport and his parents make him feel like he shouldn't even try anymore, Violet struggles with social anxiety and tries to build up her confidence but fails every time, Helen feels like she's failing as a wife because she starts to believe her husband is having an affair and gets major fear, and last but not least the final fight with the Omni droid, the droid is a representation of our inability to triumph over our failures, it seems like no matter what we do we can't defeat it, until the only thing left to do is to take the fear head on. This is the genius writing of the movie and I could go on and on about how it's the greatest movie of all time.
Do Logan vs The dark knight
The dark knight sucks
@Calvin Bowers man of steel is better
@WWE 4 life I think bane is better than the joker jack Nicholson is great the best batman movie is the dark knight rises and man of steel is awsome the best superhero movie ever I don't care about what you say
TDK wins
Sebastien O. I like Infiity War more than both, it just felt like the ultimate superhero movie package and then some.
It would had been interesting to see the Incredibles show and use their powers more to see how they could change in the future. we barely got anything from Dash, and Violet showing an advancement in their powers. I still feel the 1st is better
When watching reviews, u can start to rethink things:
For me, I feel the first Incredibles is better because Mr. Incredible had a character arc while Elastic Girl, while being an excellent example of a strong female character, had a character arc but it gets thrown out the window at the inciting incident in the second movie.
My rating for The Incredibles
1st one: 10/10
2ND one:9/10
And yes, the fact that I’m not like super stoked and excited counting down the days for Incredibles 3 is sad :(
This video is incredible! (No pun intended) You should do more vs. videos about Pixar movies.
9:42 I think that first argument is a little invalid simply because the second movie is in fact a sequel. The reason they wouldn’t be more memorable is because they didn’t have to develop their characters. The makers did such a good job on the first that they felt that they didn’t need to develop more. You even said that the portrayal was so good that they were very memorable
Not always. If you can create something amazing, you are able to give more depth and even more meaningful events to the characters. Shrek 2 is a great example, which not only is considered to be better than the first one (that's relative), but the sequel gave much more depth to the characters making more impactful moments.
I enjoyed both, however I liked the first one much more. You cover everything I had to say, but i wanted to add another reason. I think for this is that the setting of a hero mixed with average daily life was much better in the first one. In the first one it had a great story about an underground hero going through a midlife crisis. We got a much better believable view of how bob felt about life and missing the glory days and what he tries to do to acquire it. We also saw a lot more about how his family and those around him are affected by it.
In the second one, it felt more like I was watching two different movies. One a slice of life comedy about a stay at home dad, the other a predictable mystery action. This dissonance in the second one is a part of why I dont like it as much.
Dare I say, Incredibles is almost as good as The Dark Knight
Wow dude.....hold the phone
LMAO
@@des9808 hahahaha
It is.
In what way?
Hey! I hope you are going to be big on youtube in one day, you deserve it
0:40 Me:LOL THAT SHOULD BE A MEME WHEN SOMEONE SAYS BUDDY
INCREDI BOY: My name is Incredi Boy
Me:Ok incredi boy
Good video bro :)
Will you do a Finding Nemo vs Finding Dory?
Nemo
Thanks buddy. I have not seen Finding Dory yet. I might get to it one day but I don't have any plans for it at the moment.
Eric Carter ok then
@@julioaugustosamaniegolopez3456 finding nemo was voted as one of greatest motion pictures ever made since 2000.of course finding nemo is better
Guilshad Joseph Finding Nemo is my favorite Pixar film :)
The first Incredibles is far superior in pretty much every way except the look of the animation. There was just so much more subtlety in the direction and execution of the first film from dialogue to how the fight scenes were approached. It was so much more smartly crafted and written. The second film feels way less smartly written and more like a typical kids flick. Still a decent enough sequel to keep you interested but definitely not even close to the original. I was disappointed that Screenslaver was a front utilized by such a weak villain, I thought the front idea was interesting but could’ve been incorporated differently by a stronger central villain. I give the first Incredibles an 8.8 and the second a 7 out of 10.
This is really cool because on a hike just yesterday my mom and I were talking about the first Incredibles vs. the second, and how the first had so many memorable scenes and a great villain, where overall we couldn't remember anything from the second one. We know we enjoyed it, we just didn't remember specifically what, you know? Just goes to show the power of--and what goes into--a truly memorable movie. This video is great!! :D
Sameeeee!! I figured out Evelyn was screenslaver minutes maybe even seconds into first seeing her
She was too obvious.
Same, but i thought that and her brother is gonna be evil, but only she was lol
I think even in terms of action, I'd still go for part one. I just adore the scenes where Dash gets chased, or where Elastigirl sneaks into the train. And as you said, the finale is a way better too. Incredibles 2 obviously has better animation quality, but that's to be expected if it's released 14 years later.
The Incredibles 2 will never be on parr with the first film
Sorry I didn't comment earlier but great video can't wait for more. I'm here with you to the end. Just so you know this is B. Wise.
I still can't get over how good the animation grew from 1 to 2
Violet and Dash are exactly like my brother and I, will piss each other off and fight at all costs, yet as soon as one of us is in trouble, the other is always gonna rush in to help out
sequels aren't always as good as the original movies but incredibles 2 proved it wrong this one was almost as good as the original with little thing to criticize so if they r gonna make us wait for another 14 years to release incredibles 3 with quality contents as its first 2 movies then i am ready to wait.
no just no. The 2nd one was not what i or anyone was waiting 14 years for.
Great video, superb job comparing and contrasting both movies!
I think vViolet was just acting agitated because she was a teenager. I thought that Incredibles 2 was clearly trying to show that Violet was just like any teenage girl, with crushes, a rebellious attitude, and not the best temper. Personally, I think that her attitude is “just a phase”, and it was put into the movie to also show Violet’s realistic side and add humor.
Ngl if it wasn’t for Spider-verse I woulda easily called Incredibles 2 my favorite animated super hero movie of 2018.
But as is it’s still a great time 5 years later! Here’s hoping they make a third movie.
You are smarter than Msmojo! This is a correct list!
Ikr
Great video as always Eric, but I CANNOT believe you didn’t talk about the fantastic score in these films!
The score in the movies are great. I made mention to the music ramping up in tension during the story segment. But yeah, the music in both films (especially the first) is very good.
Ah my apologies, I just didn’t see a section for the music.
Wow, I surprisingly agree with all your points. The biggest disappointment I have for the sequel was its lack of equal focus on the children's development as superheroes sans Jack Jack. I loved Violet the most and to see her get reduced to an upset teenager just blows as an arc. Then there's Dash who just lost his fire. Original one's better for me. The second one did not allow much time to breath.
So being vindicated by your hero is more scarring than losing your parents to a robber. I feel like there's something wrong with that.
Great video. Really enjoyed watching it.
The characters were much better in the 2nd one tbh, Jack Jack, And violet are so much more likeable
Violet wasn't unstable! She's a self-conscious teen with a boyfriend who's MEMORY GOT WIPED! What teen wouldn't be pissed after that!?
I agree with your assessment on the villains, but I think you overlooked something about Eveline. Namely, she doesn't blame the superheroes, but rather the effect that they have on the people. It's the effect they have on the society and people's over reliance on them. In a way it is the opposite of Syndrome's from the first film. They both have their motives based in personal trauma, but overall they are commentaries on society.
Huh, nice vid and all, but if the Incredibles house was blown up in the first film, then where'd they get the retro suits for their interview?
That is a VERY good question. I did not think about that. Well spotted buddy.
I had the same question, and I was thinking they somehow survived the explosion bc Edna designed them with the same indestructible material as the red suits. But then again, Syndrome's robot tore through Mr. Incredible's suit, so idk
My other question is where did the stroller from the beginning of the second movie come from. Incredibles 2 picks up right where the first one left off, and at the end of the first movie Jack Jack is on Elastigirl's back, but at the start of the second (at the exact same line of the end of the first movie) Jack Jack is in a stroller. This is prolly a really stupid detail nobody cares about lol but still
Turquoise Penguin bro lemme blow ur mind real quick fam, in the first film, where did the incredibles stay between the track meet and their house exploding. The reason why I ask this, is because after the incredibles in the second film are escorted to a motel, Dicker says that their part of the government is going out due to recent events right? To me that sounded like the first time that they're having this conversation, like as if between NOW and the HOUSE EXPLOSION, this is the first time they're talking about houses or whatever. But to be fair, the track meet was hinted at being a time skip, so i'm not sure, might need to rewatch stuff.
I figured if Edna designed them she would have extra for them just in case such an emergency would a raise.
My favorite movie reviewer doing a verses on two of the next films of all time? Oh boy, I can already tell it's gonna be a great day!
i didn't know that it was even a suicide when i was a kid I thought someone told him to jump and that they were going to chatch him and when he said "you ruined my death that's what you did." i thought he said "you ruined my neck."
I know. Every kid had a different understanding to what had happened in that scene. When I revisited the movie as an adult so I could make this review, I was shocked to find out what this scene was REALLY about. It's really dark stuff.
Same
One thing the first film has over the second film (for me) was the fact that I grew up with it, and so doing so, discovered just how intricate the film was. It was a wonderful, even magical, experience discovering a new layer to the story as I went through a new phase in life.
For instance, when I watched the film after happening to oversee a big fight between my folks, suddenly, the fight between Hellen and Bob felt very real.
As great as the second film is, and as much as it did make me feel like a kid again (in more ways than one, I caught a bad case of vertigo and tossed my cookies the first time I watched the first film, and got a minor case with the rollercoasteresque camera movements in the second), I have grown as a person, and even try to write multilayered stories myself now, so now every layer that could be uncovered is more-or-less obvious to me now.
What I'm trying to say is, the first film grew up with me, the second film did not, though that's a good thing, if The Dark Crystal has taught me anything, it's that exoteric films do _horribly_ at the Box Office.
That said, I love the second film and I even was decently surprised by the twist (to me it was more about which of the Deavors was Screenslaver), and through it is not without it's flaws that knock it _just_ below the first film, it's still good enough for me to enjoy it just fine, but I hope they address the shortcomings in a third film, whenever that is.
I disagree with Evelyn having generic motives. The reason why she wanted Supers to become illegal forever is not because of them not being able to save her parents in time, but because of OUR OVERRELIANCE on Supers. She herself said "Superheroes keeps s weak". Her main belief is that we rely on the Supers too much; because of this, we aren't able to discover our truest potentials and solve problems using our own capabilities. Instead, we rely on the Supers to solve our own problems. This is why she wants Supers to become illegal.
Another thing that gets misinterpreted by most people is her plan. I personally believe that it was a smart and brilliant plan. To reiterate (especially to those who have misunderstood her plan), her plan is to break the people's trust in Supers, by building the Supers' image using the media. By building up their image, the people's trust in them is slowly strengthened. Once that trust is finally rebuilt, that's the time when she'll break the people's trust in the Supers (by using her Hypno-goggles). Once that rebuilt trust gets shattered, then the public will NEVER give them a chance to become legal again. Her plan, at least to me, makes so much sense that I don't know why a lot of people are hating on her.
Another problem people had with her was predictability. I guess the reason why it was predictable was because all the clues and hints match up. A lot of people criticize the twist in Frozen, saying that Hans being the villain came out of nowhere, and that his actions didn't align with his motives. At least in Incredibles 2, the actions match the motives. What we see is what we get.
Although Evelyn is not perfect, for me, she comes close to Syndrome. Not surpass or on par, but close. I'm just kinda sad that a lot of people hate her because I really saw her as a smart, cunning, and reasonable villain.
I totally agree with you , I don't know why many people don't like Evelyn. For me she is a great villain, she is intelligent, sure of herself and she was able to create an imaginary villain and get the city to be afraid without her having to do almost anything.
I like the Incredibles 2 more. Maybe you could predict the screen slavers identity but I was clueless about who the real Villain was. The reveal hit me with supperize the second it happened and I love supperizes
How many times do I say your videos are amazing? Because they are.
Hey, is it just me or did he edit the video?
I understand you have a lot to say but i had to go back several times to get all of what you were saying because it almost sound like you were doing a speed test of some sort to see how fast you could explain a movie. Slow down you do an excellent job and i and others would like to enjoy your commentary! If it wasn't explain so fast i would give you one of the highest marks on your commentary that i have seen!
Incredibles 2 is like Toy Story 2, not better than the first one but a perfect sequel and a great movie in general. In my opinion some characters, the action,cinematography and animation are better in the second one but other characters (and the villian), the story and climax are way better in the first one.
The scene of the screenslaver´s monologue and battle with elastigirl is amazing and I think that is better than any scene of Sindrome in the Incredibles 1
Some people believe that Elastigirl "stole the show" in The Incredibles 2, but I don't really think she did. Having her do the action and Mr. Incredible take care of the children was part of Mr. Incredible's character development. Bob had to realise that not everything is about him
When Disney and Pixar have better villains than marvel
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Please do best Pixar film. Mine is
1. WALL-E
2. The Incredibles
3. Coco
Yeah those are cool
Let me tell you. This movie holds a special place in my heart when I was a kid. I love this movie. I love that so much as a kid. I had the toys as a kid. I had the giant robot as a kid which I love so much and and as an adult now. I still love this movie. The sequel though I actually did enjoy the sequel lot. It was very intense, felt serious. And it was very interesting. I actually like both first and the second one they both really are good
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I love how these movies humanize superheroes.
Bob flinches before the train strikes him. Sure he can stop it, doesn't mean its not gonna hurt.
Bob and Lucius (Frozone) laughing and sharing stories about their old battles (and i love that they make fun of some villain tropes, like monologuing to the hero)
Helen and Bob having turbulence in their relationship
Bob going through a midlife crisis
Dash and Violet getting into typical sibling fights and arguments
and then of course the sociatal effects of supers and how that would cause a division between supers and non supers, sort of like the division of benders and non benders in Avatar the Last Airbender
Film Theory: My Hero Academia is the result of Syndrome's victory. /you're welcome.
yeah but the quirks a natural when syndromes is tech
George Mounce syndrome said that he would sell his tech when he’s old. He could’ve developed bio technology that enables a gene to produce superpowers at some point.
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I think Incredibles 2 was a better movie than the first Incredibles just by a little. The Animation is better and I think even the story is more amazing. Even the climax has more action. The only problem it has is a villain problem, yes the villain is a good one, but nothing compared to Syndrome. However, the concept of the villain's PLAN was so interesting and I always wanted a villain who could do stuff like that. However, Syndrome is way better.
my only problem with the second movie is dark tone and adult scenes werent enough. Other than that, the 2nd movie did a great job
in the firs movie we saw syndrome's super hero genocide, the deaths of henchmen,bad guys who have no problem with killing kids, some guy who committed suicide and elastigirl's pulls mr incredible home for a obvious thing.
i know i think too much for a child cartoon but still this is also a super hero movie and in the first movie brad bird had proved that he care about his adult audience.
Yeah, that's a thing. I am a kid but I still love that dark theme you know because if you don't feel the THREAT for the heroes if the villain or movie itself is not dark enough. I think that Incredibles 2 HAD one dark scene though: Screenslaver controlling Pizza Boy is kind of messed up if you think about it. Screenslaver can basically control anyone and that's a little dark! Not saying better or darker than the almighty SYNDROME but Screenslaver was a little dark too!
I disagree completely. I thought Incredibles 2 was way worse than the original. The story was less interesting, the villain sucked, the characters were static, and there was a ton of filler. The only thing I can slightly agree with is the animation is better, but that's kind of a given with Pixar.
The story was not interesting for you? It's a good one... and what makes the story good is it's villain. I understand that she is nothing compared to SYNDROME but that is an interesting concept for a villain! But again, everyone can have their own opinions... and I respect yours :D However, I will stick with my opinion :D
@Rajatava Kar Yes,because women being in high positions in patriarchal society simply because she`s related to a less competent but more economically advantaged man =feminism,right?No,it equals reality!And no,not all men are idiots but most are!
I'm thinking the actions of Syndrome killing off Supers one by one may explain the circumstances on how Screenslaver came to be personally.
For me, *The Incredibles* was a perfect 10 out of 10. My personal favorite Pixar film. And *Incredibles 2* was almost as good as the original, save for the plot being a bit more predictable. So I'd give it an excellent 9 out of 10- still fantastic, just not quite perfect.
What an intro! The best I have seen in a versus video in TH-cam and I also liked the first movie more and also cuz of screenslaver. I am glad that I am here in this channel and can you plz make jungle book vs Mowgli legend of the jungle. Which one did you prefer Venom or Spiderman homecoming?
Thanks buddy. If you liked the intro of this versus video then check out my Avengers Infinity War VS Civil War and Jurassic World VS Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom videos. I give them some cool intros to.
Yes, I am planning on doing Jungle Book VS Mowgli at some point.
Oh that is a good question. I think I would give the edge to Spider-Man Homecoming. It wasn't anywhere NEAR a mess with its story like Venom was.
Thanks you are the best TH-camr and I have almost seen every versus video and I saw that your it versus video had reached A MILLION VIEWS! obviously you deserve it cuz you are just the best :) and yeah venom sucked and Spiderman 3 was Way better for me too but the first Spiderman in my personal opinion was the best. I have seen your civil war veesus and also the Jurassic world they are all awesome they are better than the crap the other TH-camr made. Keep it up and I have shared all your versus videos to my friends (they all love it). Once again nice work and I want to see more of it from a TH-camr like you.
Thank you. You are*
Also are you going to do a the it chapter two versus video?
If Article 13 doesn't take effect then yes I will. :)
Ahhhh good memories
What?!
8:38 *Me screaming high pitch when someone sneaks up like a poltergeist*
Will you do a vs video on the 2 stranger things seasons
I don't think so. But I will do a "Let's Binge Watch" episode of Stranger Things Season 2 eventually.
I would like the sequel a lot more if it didn’t happen immediately after the first ones ending, the reason for that is because in their world no time has passed while 14 years passed for us, also the ending of the first movie is perfect, the family are back to being heroes and they trust each other but the sequel ruins that ending, by making them take a huge step back. instead of working together, the parents force the kids to stay back, when the first one implies that they are a team now!?
This must have been difficult for you Eric
Hey, is it just me or he changed his original video?
@@MrFunnyman5260 did he?
@@Animefan-uk8pw didn't he disliked the second incredibles movie?
@@MrFunnyman5260 not really
One more things that I love about the first Incredibles that they satire superhero movies like "no capes" and "villains monologue"
Why does this have only 800 views
Edit: Never mind it has 10k now😂
I guess the story in Incredibles 1 was better but it doesn't hit as hard. It doesn't give me the same sense of fear. Also I did not predict the plot twist as easy as you did. On first sight, yes I thought Evylin would be a bad guy but that changed when screenslaver came. I thought that screensaver would be a male. And I do think that we get a lot more of Jack-Jack in this film and I really find Violet's story arc in this movie in this arc to be much more interesting. Surely you can understand that. And I find both of these movies to be very dark.