They have cards because they aren’t criminals however Arthur Morgan’s is a wanted criminal murderer however people like Jim boy are kind of criminals but not necessarily wanted by lawmen, only bounty hunters
"I had a son... he passed away..." "I have a son, i had a daughter, but she died. I got shot in a robbery. They left me, i left them." "Listen to me: when the time comes... you gotta run and don't look back... This is over." "You're my brother..." "I know... i know"
Then explain to me how arthur is that much better written than John, especially on the conflicts part. Because I am very interested to see how the mascot of the franchise is not the best written character.
@@giant6254both are excellent characters but Arthur is a better planned and written character. he reflects the modern gaming culture of characters who are relatable and easy to connect with, whereas John is an idealistic character who is also an unkillable badass. Arthur is easier to connect with and his words carry far more weight than Johns ever did.
Me when i first played rdr2 : Ooooo i can't wait to play as john to see his backstory, Wait..... Arthur Morgan? who is this random old man dude😂 Me when i saw Arthur's death : **literally flodding my room with tears**
He'll nah. If anything John's character is even at the place where it is is coz of Arthur. Arthur's is a REAL BADASS a goes through character development
@@DonutdaddyLMF I’m a Arthur meat rider but johns more badass just look at him also he has a poncho in the first game and you can’t even get one offline in rdr2 so that just adds to John’s drip even if you can customise outfits in rdr2
Muchos quisas les gustaria ser casi como Arthur Morgan o el incluso pero lo que si puede hacer uno es pensar como el. ser un ser Honorable antes de morir. Ami en lo personal Arthur seria ejemplo a seguir y le sigo sus ejemplos amar a los que amar protejer a los que hay que protejer ayudar a los que tengamos que ayudar.
@@Thunder87edits nah I just don't want to even elaborate bruh and I ain't the one saying someone that only becomes great in chapter 6 is the one of the best written characters of all time💀
I disagree I think John is better because he is in a moral grey area and you can conclude if he is a good or a bad person we’re as with Arthur you kinda know that He wants to be a good man which is why I think John is a more interesting character
My wish before I die is that they completely remake rdr1 with the information presented in rdr2. I don't know how, but I want to see red dead just one more time.
If you think about it, arthur didn't really have anything but the people that were in the camp and john marston unless theirs something I'm forgetting.
If we talk about John Marston 1911 and Arthur Morgan 1899 I would give them these adjectives: Artur-at the beginning he was heathy, loyal to the gang and was fighting to survive so he was mad, persistent and loyal at any cost. But when the gang was falling apart in ch.6, he became sick, honest and a "good man" so he tried to fix everything he did wrong and seeing Dutch going crazy, his loyalty began to perishe. John-Tried to fight to have his familly back so he hunted down his old gang members. He was very badass, angry and maybe even brutall, but he loved his wife, teeched his son son how life works and teeched him many skills, before everything, shooting whit which his son gunned down the man ho killed him for the ultimate revenge and somehow for me I prefer his death a little bit over Arthur's death because Arthur's death was because his sickness and because the fight with Micah ho shooted him and Arthur's death was because his sacrifice to save John and his familly which was heroic too, but John was expected to live a happy life because all he had to do for him and his familly to survive was done and the man ho promised him savety betrayed him leading to the maybe most tragic and brutall death of all the gang members which was shooted by twenty man at his home and still standing to his death.😢
arthur backstory is more sad, he had a son and a women who loved him and they were killed by 10 dollars, his mother died when he was just a child and arthur saw his dad dying
@KrustyToast4 it really isn't. John is just another iconic character. Arthur is the best one in gaming history. Not only is his character is so deep it gives you a life lesson about never being too late to change. When I played rdr1 with john I felt like a fun game and character to play with. When I played rdr2 as arthur I felt like I knew the man p3rsonally after 100 hours of gameplay
i think arthur’s conclusion is amazing and better than johns. however, johns conclusion can’t be understated. just like how dutch spent his life fighting, even if what he fought for meant nothing, john ran away from everything all his life. his orphanage, the law, his gang, his life etc. but finally, he realises running hasn’t helped him or his family. so in that barn he lets his family go on ahead. he reflects on his life and what the future for his wife and child could be. and he opens those doors. it also co-insides brilliantly with dutch’s conclusion but i’m not smart enough to explain how
“I had a son…” “I had a son and daughter, she passed.” “I got shot in the robbery, they left me, I left them.” “Listen to me, when the time comes, you gotta run and don’t look back. This is over.” “You’re my brother.” “I know. I know.”
You’re getting a Sub❤ but Ipersonally think in MY OPINION so don’t get mad that I think (it’s okay if you don’t agree with me tho) John is slightly better written because he joined the gang at 12 grew up around them all and learned from them and then he disappeared was saved and in that time gone he had a family so he had more to take care of he helped the gang and until the betrayal and due to him being 12 when he joined the betrayal was heavy for him (and Arthur) and then he went back to kill Micah unable to let go of the past then years later he was forced to go out and hunt down what was left of his friends (besides Charles, Saide and Peirson) and not to mention Uncle the only one that didn’t leave was killed then after all of that it brought more harm on his family which he realized but was later killed (leaving the pain on Jack and Abigail) Like I said it’s just MY OPINION YOU DONT HAVE TO AGREE WITH ME
PEAKS TO JOHN???? LMAAAAAAAAO😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 No John peak could ever beat The Last Ride, I'm Afraid, horse death, sunrise. Hell even the conversation Arthur has with Rains Fall in chapter 6 (especially when he talks about his son) is a better peak.
@@Xiter2024 dude chill the fuck out lmao it's not like i said arthur doesn't have any peaks john's last stand in rdr1 and arthur's revenge in american venom are better peaks than the horse death, i'm afraid scene and rains fall conversations, the last ride is a better peak tho, i forgot about that one
Can you just imagine how epic it would be if we actually seen John and Arthur in their iconic uniforms being in a gun fight together from Enemies in the actual west😨😨🔥🔥
@MartinMiller-MM COZ not really. Arthur is one of the most well written characters in fiction. John is iconic specially in the franchise but he's just another game character while Arthur FAR FAR FAR better witten
I love both these characters. Yeah Arthur’s better written, but John’s more relatable to me. He’s more real I feel like. He’s a little scrappy, but he doesn’t hide it with fake kindness. He’s real, and he’s himself. Take it or leave it. Jesus loves you by the way.
Lo mas trizte de este video esque sera un recurdo al igual que la SAGA DE RED DEAD nunca me holvidare ni ustedes que apoyen el comentatio siempre llevare a RED DEAD REVOLVES, RED DEAD REDEMPTION, RED DEAD REDEMPTION 2, en mi corazon.
One of the more irrelevant comparisons I’ve seen because of course most of what you gave to Morgan was based off the writers of the story gaining more experience irl 😅 still good tho.
Maybe more like mid diff
W edit bro, can you tell me the Fonts name please?
@@Don-Salamanca which one?
@@Reflex-Edits all ._.
John clears, but not in written
Yeah in a gunfight i agree @@CatholicKenall
“Revenge is a fools game”
John the moment he hears Sadie found Micah:
That's why john killed later cause he didn't listen to Arthur's advice
John: Legend Of The West
Arthur: Legend Of The East
Arthur não é lenda de nada não😹😹
@@carolinnez._it's literally a platinum trophy on ps5
@@_Editz2151yes but technically you can only get it with John
@@carolinnez._ says the one crying to there mom
@@pastaa_7that's only because Rockstar wants you to finish the game. But Arthur still is the legend of the east
John: you my brother
Arthur: I know I know
To translate, “I love you”
@@famanhdiarrassouba9931bruh They were brothers!!!!!!!!!!
@@Rz_Meditz Brothers can love each other no?
@sanemi1357 they can respect each other
Arthur should have his own legendary gunslinger card in both games 1907 and 1911
Yesss ❤❤❤
That wouldn't make sense logically
@@Yanik-Editsexplain
They have cards because they aren’t criminals however Arthur Morgan’s is a wanted criminal murderer however people like Jim boy are kind of criminals but not necessarily wanted by lawmen, only bounty hunters
@@MrPrice13579 hmmm, makes sense, but still would’ve been a fun Easter egg
"I had a son... he passed away..."
"I have a son, i had a daughter, but she died. I got shot in a robbery. They left me, i left them."
"Listen to me: when the time comes... you gotta run and don't look back... This is over."
"You're my brother..."
"I know... i know"
I'll never forget playing John's last stand at the end of the 1st game😣
It makes you think you can beat them because it puts you in dead eye but you still die😔
@@Reflex-Edits I'll NEVER forgive them for that😭🙏
@@Reflex-Edits fr that messed my head up😭🙏
It's Extreme diff
John was incredible too
He wasn't that deep. Arthur takes all except backstory and intro.
@@Xiter2024 No it's not like that
@@Xiter2024John is very deep. It’s just that John is never put into a position where the depth really shows itself like with Arthur after he got TB.
This feels like coming from a guy who did not play rdr1 until the remaster dropped..
I played it
Then explain to me how arthur is that much better written than John, especially on the conflicts part. Because I am very interested to see how the mascot of the franchise is not the best written character.
@@giant6254 john has little writing
@@Reflex-Edits then arthur has even less writing.
@@giant6254both are excellent characters but Arthur is a better planned and written character. he reflects the modern gaming culture of characters who are relatable and easy to connect with, whereas John is an idealistic character who is also an unkillable badass. Arthur is easier to connect with and his words carry far more weight than Johns ever did.
Arthur vs John❌
Arthur and John🔥🔥
Me when i first played rdr2 : Ooooo i can't wait to play as john to see his backstory, Wait..... Arthur Morgan? who is this random old man dude😂
Me when i saw Arthur's death : **literally flodding my room with tears**
Awesome edit! Arthur in chapter 6 is peak writing imo.
imo both characters are equally well written
He'll nah. If anything John's character is even at the place where it is is coz of Arthur. Arthur's is a REAL BADASS a goes through character development
@@DonutdaddyLMF I’m a Arthur meat rider but johns more badass just look at him also he has a poncho in the first game and you can’t even get one offline in rdr2 so that just adds to John’s drip even if you can customise outfits in rdr2
@@DonutdaddyLMFmight be a shitty opinion but Idc I just want to give my perspective I think the right word is to it
NGL i think iconic goes to Arthur
I think it's because the first game is about him, hes the first character in rdr that we get to play in 2 games, you get the idea.
@@EnzoSantana-oy9ff yea I get ya
Iconic goes to both imo
This edit make me cry 😭
Muchos quisas les gustaria ser casi como Arthur Morgan o el incluso pero lo que si puede hacer uno es pensar como el. ser un ser Honorable antes de morir. Ami en lo personal Arthur seria ejemplo a seguir y le sigo sus ejemplos amar a los que amar protejer a los que hay que protejer ayudar a los que tengamos que ayudar.
You're good man Arthur.
oof
Arthur Morgan: Is A 90% broken and 10% good
John Marston: Is A 95% broken and 5% good
Arthur is best game character
I play both of games and I can feel red dead feeling when play as Arthur Morgan
Rockstar when it comes to making characters they hit different
Not this song 😢plus Giveing me flash backs pf Arthur’s and Johns death 😢🎉😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢 (Great edit 😅)
Not surprised lol, Arthur is like one of the best written characters in fiction imo
I disagree but ok
@@gojiyfan7008 why do you disagree?
@@Thunder87edits i ain't obligated to say why
@@gojiyfan7008 bros acting like he’s a wanted man 😭🙏 left ur opinion, and then refused to elaborate. Alright 💀
@@Thunder87edits nah I just don't want to even elaborate bruh and I ain't the one saying someone that only becomes great in chapter 6 is the one of the best written characters of all time💀
Arthur : I am afraid.
I disagree I think John is better because he is in a moral grey area and you can conclude if he is a good or a bad person we’re as with Arthur you kinda know that He wants to be a good man which is why I think John is a more interesting character
Whe dont even know arthurs backstory. So in that case arthur low diffs maybe no diffs him if we knew his backstory
John is a good man too. That logic most applies to Jack in 1914 where he’s either depressed and suicidal or an outright sadistic murderer.
My wish before I die is that they completely remake rdr1 with the information presented in rdr2. I don't know how, but I want to see red dead just one more time.
I agree with you but im still a John Marston main i just like who he became
If you think about it, arthur didn't really have anything but the people that were in the camp and john marston unless theirs something I'm forgetting.
Both are goated
dialogues and quotes goes to John tbh, he be spitting bars every time he speaks in RDR1
If we talk about John Marston 1911 and Arthur Morgan 1899 I would give them these adjectives:
Artur-at the beginning he was heathy, loyal to the gang and was fighting to survive so he was mad, persistent and loyal at any cost.
But when the gang was falling apart in ch.6, he became sick, honest and a "good man" so he tried to fix everything he did wrong and seeing Dutch going crazy, his loyalty began to perishe.
John-Tried to fight to have his familly back so he hunted down his old gang members.
He was very badass, angry and maybe even brutall, but he loved his wife, teeched his son son how life works and teeched him many skills, before everything, shooting whit which his son gunned down the man ho killed him for the ultimate revenge and somehow for me I prefer his death a little bit over Arthur's death because Arthur's death was because his sickness and because the fight with Micah ho shooted him and Arthur's death was because his sacrifice to save John and his familly which was heroic too, but John was expected to live a happy life because all he had to do for him and his familly to survive was done and the man ho promised him savety betrayed him leading to the maybe most tragic and brutall death of all the gang members which was shooted by twenty man at his home and still standing to his death.😢
Arthur in chapter 6 was PEAK but emotion goes to john imo, rdr1 was emotional all around especially on the last 2 missions.
No way, John's death can't even pass I'm Afraid in emotion😂😂😂😂
this is so underratted
also arthur takes backstory
Iconic to both
Peak edit🗿
I like these calm AE edits their very good🐐🔥
arthur backstory is more sad, he had a son and a women who loved him and they were killed by 10 dollars, his mother died when he was just a child and arthur saw his dad dying
John's backstory is RDR2
I thought they names were Arthur Callaghan and Rip Van Winkle
love story, and motivations, goes to John and Arthur High diffs, but amazing edit
Arthur low difference lmfao he is easily the most well written character in fiction
@@DonutdaddyLMF that’s a stretch
@KrustyToast4 it really isn't. John is just another iconic character. Arthur is the best one in gaming history. Not only is his character is so deep it gives you a life lesson about never being too late to change. When I played rdr1 with john I felt like a fun game and character to play with. When I played rdr2 as arthur I felt like I knew the man p3rsonally after 100 hours of gameplay
@@DonutdaddyLMF….You seriously need to read more literature. All I’m gonna say.
Name one John's theme lmao
Conflicts peaks and goals go to John imo
This so good bruh✨
W edit
What version of the Song Is this? Whats His name?
i think arthur’s conclusion is amazing and better than johns. however, johns conclusion can’t be understated. just like how dutch spent his life fighting, even if what he fought for meant nothing, john ran away from everything all his life. his orphanage, the law, his gang, his life etc. but finally, he realises running hasn’t helped him or his family. so in that barn he lets his family go on ahead. he reflects on his life and what the future for his wife and child could be. and he opens those doors. it also co-insides brilliantly with dutch’s conclusion but i’m not smart enough to explain how
John def takes a lot of these
It can go other way around but it's an opinion everyone can.
Even I would go with Arthur Morgan, his story change my perspective of life
Legend of the east vs legend of the West
I cried when I saw arthur die for the first time
Same
I like John more imo w edit
Ok u like john more but that is a opinion. But in reality arthur is better written
@@z0ha1b it’s just my opinion god damn 😭
@@z0ha1b why aren’t you responding? 🤨
@@z0ha1b damn, your the first person to not argue with me when I have an opinion…. W In the chat for you
@Guppy-rn2yv nah i respect ur opinion
Goated as always
“I had a son…”
“I had a son and daughter, she passed.”
“I got shot in the robbery, they left me, I left them.”
“Listen to me, when the time comes, you gotta run and don’t look back. This is over.”
“You’re my brother.”
“I know. I know.”
Goated edit
Max Payn vs Rick Grimes
max one taps
Ngl I haven't seen the movie or series he's from so idk
@@Reflex-Edits it's a video game
@@Reflex-Edits ok then how about Jack marston rdr vs Elie William Tlou
@@davidaaron9764 yeah sure
You’re getting a Sub❤ but Ipersonally think in MY OPINION so don’t get mad that I think (it’s okay if you don’t agree with me tho) John is slightly better written because he joined the gang at 12 grew up around them all and learned from them and then he disappeared was saved and in that time gone he had a family so he had more to take care of he helped the gang and until the betrayal and due to him being 12 when he joined the betrayal was heavy for him (and Arthur) and then he went back to kill Micah unable to let go of the past then years later he was forced to go out and hunt down what was left of his friends (besides Charles, Saide and Peirson) and not to mention Uncle the only one that didn’t leave was killed then after all of that it brought more harm on his family which he realized but was later killed (leaving the pain on Jack and Abigail) Like I said it’s just MY OPINION YOU DONT HAVE TO AGREE WITH ME
Goated edit and take as always
John‘s motivations and goals are peak
peaks, motivation and quotes to john imo
overall arthur high-extreme diffs
PEAKS TO JOHN???? LMAAAAAAAAO😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
No John peak could ever beat The Last Ride, I'm Afraid, horse death, sunrise. Hell even the conversation Arthur has with Rains Fall in chapter 6 (especially when he talks about his son) is a better peak.
@@Xiter2024 dude chill the fuck out lmao it's not like i said arthur doesn't have any peaks
john's last stand in rdr1 and arthur's revenge in american venom are better peaks than the horse death, i'm afraid scene and rains fall conversations, the last ride is a better peak tho, i forgot about that one
Can you just imagine how epic it would be if we actually seen John and Arthur in their iconic uniforms being in a gun fight together from Enemies in the actual west😨😨🔥🔥
Very nice
Wow w edit ❤❤❤❤ i like it 🎉🎉
W edit Fr both goats
Low diff is insane 😂 but W
Not really
@@Reflex-Editstf you mean "not really"?
@MartinMiller-MM COZ not really. Arthur is one of the most well written characters in fiction. John is iconic specially in the franchise but he's just another game character while Arthur FAR FAR FAR better witten
@@DonutdaddyLMF yeah sure bub
@@MartinMiller-MM arthur >
Both epic characters
W edit only thing I would change is if give iconic to both Arthur and John
Best game series ever ❤🐐 awesome edit!!
Such a W Edit!! Are you still going to do Towl Rick runs the gauntlet?
Thanks❤️
And yeah I will I'm just doing other stuff as well
Ok cool.
Rick and Shane (S2) vs Daniel and Johnny (S5)
Great edit goat
Great work,brother❤
John RDR1 Extreme diff imo
I love both these characters. Yeah Arthur’s better written, but John’s more relatable to me. He’s more real I feel like. He’s a little scrappy, but he doesn’t hide it with fake kindness. He’s real, and he’s himself. Take it or leave it.
Jesus loves you by the way.
W edit bub
Theme is John
Idek what John's main theme is
@@Reflex-Edits how far john will go to get back his family
Lo mas trizte de este video esque sera un recurdo al igual que la SAGA DE RED DEAD nunca me holvidare ni ustedes que apoyen el comentatio siempre llevare a RED DEAD REVOLVES, RED DEAD REDEMPTION, RED DEAD REDEMPTION 2, en mi corazon.
W edit goat, personally I think Arthur is overrated and John is a better character but I respect your opinion.
In my opinion, John in rdr1 is more of a badass than Arthur is in rdr2, and I like John more, but Arthur was definitely better written than John.
@@TheMiller5172 yeah I agree
He was no way better than arthur or cooler. Arthur fought with a sickness and saves John's ass. Now that's BADASS
@@DonutdaddyLMF Yeah, I'll admit, that's a pretty badass moment.
Both goats🐐
Masterpiece❤
W edit and negs me like always 🔥
One of the more irrelevant comparisons I’ve seen because of course most of what you gave to Morgan was based off the writers of the story gaining more experience irl 😅 still good tho.
W edition + fax
W goat
Low diff is crazy
Iconic to arthur
And Arthur wins mid diff
Nah rdr1 was popular not just because it was realistic but also it's story I argue John is just as or if not more popular
NOMBRE DE LA CANCION,NAME of song
Summertime sadness x I wanna be yours
@@Reflex-Edits gracias Bro,Thanks bro
ARTHUR MORGAN BEST❤😢
The meat riding is crazy
@@Brongo-un7ql not rly
you have a grown man as your profile picture
you're the meat rider
@@OneArmedBanditogrown man? bro it's Clint Eastwood
Why won't you add zombie Marston or jack
W Brother and Fax
Wish John won but fire edit
What's the song?,its pretty good
Summertime sadness x I wanna be yours
@@Reflex-Edits thx bro
W
W edit😢
Font name?
The reason is simple because rdr2's stroy is to big compared to rdr
Nah goats don’t fight
W
I started on rdr2 and I understand it was hard to warm up to him but Arthur is a better character than John
Oldest toddler
johns better lol
Prove it
Wild meatriding here, John wins high-extreme diff
I say no diff tbh