WATCH the rest of the interview and hear *Niall* answer audience questions. CLICK the link: triggernometry.locals.com/ CHAPTERS👇 00:00 Trailer 00:39 Niall’s knighthood 02:54 Churchill - the baddy of WWII? 05:10 Darryl Cooper is not a historian 06:45 Criticisms of Churchill aren’t new 07:47 Churchill was the saviour of Western civilization 08:34 Cooper is making Nazi arguments 09:45 Debunking Cooper’s claims 16:19 Why is everyone picking on Churchill? 19:28 Tucker is promoting fascism 21:37 SPONSOR: Express VPN 22:55 Has the Right given up on truth? 25:09 Ukraine: the litmus test for whether you’ve crossed over to the dark side 27:23 Is the Right lost? 33:13 There is a real problem of immigration 36:50 Warning: Frustration with immigration can metastasise into theories of racial hierarchy 39:31 Chaos breeds authoritarianism 41:24 Debunking theories of racial superiority 41:59 We have to fight extremism from both Left and Right 44:34 We need interracial breeding to defend against population collapse 47:40 Politicians can’t talk honestly about this 50:07 SPONSOR: Qualia Senolytic 51:56 Illegal immigration infuriates people 54:35 America’s example of integration 57:26 Niall destroys The Great Replacement Theory 1:00:43 We cannot tolerate Islamism in the UK 1:03:40 The unholy alliance of Islamists and the Woke 1:05:24 Free societies have enemies on both sides 1:06:25 A successful model of assimilation 1:09:26 What’s the one thing we’re not talking about?
Well, the people in power have engineered a status quo which encourages mass immigration which is leading to Europeans becoming minorities in their own countries and twerking drag queens in school libraries. You get what you pay for. Don’t want Nazis? Don’t push regular people to the point of desperation.
@@henryburton6529 What have these Nazis said? I just saw somebody be accused of that for trying to clarify what Fascism is. If somebody reads Marx does that make them a Marxist?
@@henryburton6529 "gosh yeah your people are gonna be replaced just maybe a bit slower than current levels, yeah sorry we just really need the cheap immigrant labor ooh sorry, also my wife is black so being strict on immigration would be hypocritical of me, I am very smart" - Niall Ferguson
This is a very hard watch. Fergusson’s argument is that: if you’re opposed to mass immigration, then you’re one degree of separation from being a genocidal nazi. To say I dislike Ferguson is an understatement. He’s awful.
Друг, а это тактика такая. Настоящие фашисты/нацисты на опережение всех клеймят и пытаются вызвать чувство вины Рекомендую посмотреть, как евреев расчеловечивали
Fergusons argument is, again and again, cite your sources, so we are not gas lit by bs stretching the truth. What do you do ? Hand wave BS and stretch what was actually said. Enough. Eff off back to your comic books and your “awful” tree fort.
He might also ask himself why he goes on TH-cam to be feted by a pair of people of a certain ilk, then off the bat immediately puff up a cod-historian of that same ilk.
I've never heard a less convincing argument: "your people must be replaced because gosh we just really need the cheap immigrant labor" Niall Ferguson has never impressed me and I have lost all respect for him here. truly terrible guest
Obviously racism is bad, but ignoring the destabilizing effect of mass immigration and the threat it poses to western nations/culture (with falling fertility) is incomprehensible to me.
"I don't know how the NHS would function with out all this immigration" Quite easily. If we didn't have an extra 6 million people, we wouldn't need the extra 5,000 staff. This guy is an absurd leftist, his nonsensical points are driving me mad.
@@paulmyers1410 spot on. So stupid he doesn’t even realize the BMA have been allowed to run a closed shop in doctors for years keeping their compensation ridiculously high. They reject 2/3 of applicants deliberately for medicine. We could easily train up our own within 5 years.
If you think Ferguson is a leftist then you are probably an ideologue yourself. The fact is that mass immigration was actually a position of the libertarian right, which is why it was embraced by the European Union (which was strongly influenced by Mont Pelerin neoliberals). Ferguson is a conservative. You can acknowledge this while also disagreeing with his position on immigration.
Niall is blinded by the fact he has married an African, Ayaan seems to have integrated very well into western cultures, but she is not the vast majority of immigrants we have had in recent years, she is the exception not the rule. How can you be so intellectually blinded by love, you completely forget, or choose to "forget" cultures are different and also cultures are made by what? Particular people's, it doesn't just land at your feet like an offering from the gods. Who cares anyway, Niall fergusons argument has already been lost, people will not accept mass immigration anymore and they wont be called fascists for it.
On immigration, Niall sounds like the person who says I am not racist because I have black friends. Just because you and your wife are immigrants and have mixed racial children, doesn't mean there is not a problem with immigration policies in the US or England.
Exactly. He is saying what's right for him, his wife and his kids. His wife is nothing like other Som-a-li. That's why she is famous. She is not an example of what those people are like. I don't blame him in the slightest. I'd do or say almost anything for my wife and kids too. However I am an immigrant myself, and I am 100% in favour of closing the doors behind me.
What's weird, is she completely disagrees with him, she's been speaking out against mass migration, because she recognizes the very obvious problems with it. This disconnect between him and his wife is strange. I think it's the fact that he's the white man in the relationship, and the white guilt has affected his thinking on this. Perhaps he should see what his wife has to say on the topic.
Most people if asked would probably prefer to have a smaller, less populous, less economicly impressive and being less of a world power country rather than what it is becoming at the moment. Small, but proud and intact. With our history and our culture intact, our values untainted and eroded. If playing the global game means mass migration... how about no.
You're wrong as Niall said, because..... inflation. Or because half-brown kids are better looking than white kids. Haha. But I'm not really laughing. I'm pissed when I realize that people like this guy have way too much influence.
I'd live under the conditions of my grandparents if I could live in the world they lived in any fucking day. I wouldn't even think about it. A few years of rationing and living on bread, potatoes and gravy in exchange for: The ability to find a wife who hasn't been corrupted by feminism into thinking that the average man they walk past is more of a threat than wild bears. One who doesnt have 10, 20, 30, 50, 100 previous partners and who doesn't sell her asshole online for £5. A strong sense of community, knowing all your neighbors names and helping each other out. An economy where one income can pay a mortgage and a nice holiday each year. House prices 3-4x the national wage not 10-12. The ability to raises a family without the existential terror of them being persuaded by AGP psychopaths and social contagion to mutilate themselves once they hit puberty, if not before. Not being treated like a second class citizen in your own country. No mass migration. My grandparents don't realise how good they had it. They got to live through the absolute zenith of UK history and will be dead when the decline REALLY hits and they wont be around for it to matter. As a 90's kid it has only ever been downhill for me. But my nieces and nephews are the ones I REALLY feel bad for. Even when I point out to him "how many neighbors could you name growing up" and he procedes to rattle off 50 names of kids, their parents, grandparents, local shop owners etc and then I ask him how many he could name now and he can't even get past 6
@@mikebetts2046 inflation is completely nessecary to continue funding Nialls investment buddies and and keep the ponzi scheme he benefits from massively going.
Niall's points about needing immigrants for employment are wildly inaccurate, and he just asserts them. No consideration given to productivity increases or reductions/sanctions of welfare for lazy natives. No. It's simply that we need the noble immigrant to come here and suppress wages for the poorest in society so that things remain relatively cheap for the well off. Frankly, disgusting.
Was about to type the same thing. How many Uber drivers/Deliveroo moped risers does it take to surge the UK economy out of record debt repayments? The man is economically innumerate. He is severely mistaking the temperature of the country.
@@lurker-mq4fp Found out why the government of Western countries are flooding our countries with low wage illegal immigrants, it is a UN document made in the year 2000 called *"Replacement Migration:Is it A solution to declining and ageing populations?"* Check into it. It said that the US should import 50-60 million illegal immigrants. I forget what it said of the UK. Worth looking up.
Nail littrally said ideas and institutions built Britain, not the native people of the land. The native people built what we all enjoy, over generations of investment, cultivation and hard work and we'reexspected to just hand it over. What a turd of a man.
If Mr Ferguson is at Harvard he is already on a very slippery slope to leftism and wokeism. Irish and zpoles has ultimately the same worldview and values.
He has not been at Harvard in a long time, he is part of the hoover institute. I'm not surprised by the pushback against this episode. Fascism as presented by Giovanni Gentile would be appealing to a segment of "patriotic" Americans given today's domination of the culture and institutions by the left. You could give half of Americans some major points of thought that fascists held since the time of Sparta amd they would agree, then tell them those fall under fascism and they would be mildly conflicted because of German Nazis. But for the Germans fascism might be more openly discussed as a political phylosophy as it was in the 1800s and 1st 30 years of the 1900s. It, along with Liberalism and communism were all at each others thoughts. Because of the Germans, the other two joined in stamping out the ideology in order to eliminate one opponent in the millenia long struggle between the progenitors of today's political phylosophys ie classical liberalism or conservatism, socialism, and the forbidden one, fascism. I for one see fascism adjacent to communism neither can countenance the existence of the other or opposition as that weakens it. Fascism will inevitably leads to war, ethnic or national identity based. Very few Americans know much about the development of the ideas, amd even fewer have the ability to extrapolate ideas forward in time. It is a fact, and I am part of this fact not above it or to the side, the vast majority of comments on you tube are made by people who are just angry, emotional and have shallow knowledge on just a couple topics. So take all coments, mine included with a pound of salt. I like to think I try to be aware of my knowledge gaps and am willing to revise my thoughts and avoid bombastic certainty in my opinions, my ego resides in that and so I think it is rare.
@@irisbristow2977 but that wasn’t the accepted opinion at the time. Catholicism was seen as being entirely incompatible with democracy. That is not wokeism it’s historical fact.
I’m mixed race and I disagree with him. The indigenous people of a place are the caretakers of their culture. His kids aren’t Scottish or African. Just like how I’m not white nor Filipino. If you import large amounts of foreigners into a place, the culture will change. Whether that’s good or bad for the indigenous population, it is up to them.
@@mrror8933 No one is ever an even 50/50 split and most Scots will push against their own culture so it's almost guaranteed where their natural alliance lays.
@55:27 Niall knows well that after the surge of Irish/Italian/Polish immigration into the US in the 19th century the USA virtually closed its borders for 25 years to let the dust settle. His omission of this fact is depressingly disingenuous.
I mean, the border shutdown was a xenophobic reaction pushed by yellow journalism and open racism, not by economic reasoning. If a learned historian were to mention it, it would not be in the supportive way you want them to.
Hahaha that’s my exact feeling also. It’s unfortunate that there isn’t another pill that can be taken for the discomfort caused by being mislead into taking a shed load of blue pills.
@@So_Meh There's always Spaight's 'Bombing Vindicated', a contemporary debunking of the line Sir Niall would take eighty years later, by an Air Ministry official no less.
In case anybody who knows me ever reads this I should clarify that it is his views on current issues I have problems with. I'm sure we agree about Tucker and the history podcaster.
You don't need immigration from hostile cultures, suggesting you do shows lack of effort to solve the actual problem which is an environment unfit for raising children, which is made worse by immigration. Very short sighted and ignorant opinion to present as a fact. That's even worse then letting Putin spout historical fantasies in an interview.
Viktor Orban, Prime Minister of Hungary is not against immigration per se, he just refuses to take in Muslim refugee/migrants for he has witnessed the chaos that ensues with mass immigration of Muslims in Western European countries. Poland holds the same stance. Both men consider that their countries should be allowed to choose who comes in and who doesn't in order to protect their traditions and culture. Bravo to them. Sir Niall Feguson states that the NHS would collapse if there weren't such a high rate of foreigners who are part of the medical force. He doesn't mention, or ignores, that there are NHS nurses from Nigeria, who are being investigated for 'industrial scale' qualifications fraud. As published in the Guardian and other outlets, this scam involves 700+ healthcare workers, of which 48 are already working in the NHS and are due to face individual hearings. I wonder what he would have to say about that.
The question that should be Post to this people who are so gung ho on foreign country medical healthcare providers. Which provider would you choose if you had the choice? An English trained physician or nurse or a Nigerian physician or nurse? If they’re honest they’d ask the question the way you’d expect them to, the way you would. I bet if you asked in Nigerian resident which one they’d prefer they’d answer the same way, as well.
Very good point. The other thing those countries are doing is incentivising people to have more children, so they wont need immigrants to maintain their population. And it's working.
And what goes hand in hand trouble with Muslims is the juices. Their destinies are tied together. And they both should be evicted with equal tenacity. That is pretty simple. There were some 3,100,000 minutes during the 6 years and 1 day of WW2. 6 million? That's 2 per minute, 24 7 day and night for the full course of the war. Really think about that. 2 per minute for 6 years. The west, quite frankly, is better off with neither.
Although I don't disagree with most of his points. I think the suggestion that an argument was made by nazis, therefore that argument must be wrong is VERY dangerous. That isn't how we determine right vs wrong
Why don't they ask British people why they are not having enough children , I suspect it is the cost of housing or lack of social housing , the cost of nursery care so the Mother can work to help pay the mortgage or rent , making having more children unaffordable , not enough secure or well paid jobs for men so the mother can choose to stay at home and bring up their children. A lack of investment in training and importing people to do the jobs. and people being taxed to death, maybe these are some of the reasons the native population is below replacement rate.
It absolutely blows me away that the powers that be can’t figure out that locals don’t have kids because of the cost of living. In the western culture you’re supposed to go forth and forge your own way and in many other countries they live multiple generations in the same household so of course the foreigners can “afford “the cost of living and having children when the locals can’t. I am an uneducated dummy and even I can see it crystal clear. So can pretty much everybody else outside of government and leftist circles.
Lower birthrates are a tradeoff of industrialization. In an agrarian economy, children are an economic asset, assisting with the labor of the farm. In an industrialized economy, children are an economic liability, requiring a lot of resources with no RoI for 18-24 years. I suppose you could have an industrialized economy where children are an asset, but you'd have to go back to child labor in factories and a significant scaling back of educational rigor. Not a tradeoff I think most would be willing to make. In any case, low birth rates are endemic to the system we've chosen, and you see that in every industrialized nation, regardless of taxation level, housing availability, etc.
You're playing their game. I can prove this easily. (1) Studies prove the poorest people have the most kids. Poor = kids. (2) Throughout history, everybody was poor, and yet we clearly always had kids. The only thing to take away from this is there's no such thing as being 'too poor to have kids'. This is a Marxist lie. It's ironic: the people taking over the UK are Muslims, and Muslim women have about 4 kids per woman on average, which is one of the highest birth rates in the world -- yet most Muslims are poor, as the entire Middle East is relatively poor and Third World. The only outcome from this line of thinking is fewer kids, which leads to even less wealth, which leads to even fewer kids, which leads to even more Muslims flooding the nation. It's no accident that this is in line with anti-human idealism. White women are not giving birth because they don't want to or are mentally unable to. The data on this is clear, and has been for 40+ years. It has nothing to do with income. Most rich white women are also not having kids. (Yes, many hyper-rich people do have kids, according to the data -- but this has little impact on the population sizes due to their rarity.) Everybody was having kids in the 1920s and even the 1950s, indeed. Yet most people were poor. This, you need to explain. It's not an issue around money or vague social care, even. It's way deeper than that. (Poor Jews also have kids, by the way. That's also about 3/4 kids per woman, making it roughly the highest birth rate of all human/racial groups. If you look at African Christians, they also like to have 4+ kids, and most of them are poor. On the other hand, Japanese women are fairly rich and yet refusing to have any kids. Same in South Korea. Look at the data. It's very clear, even the EU reports agree, and they are leftist beyond belief.)
Shocking in contrast to Niall’s wife’s incredibly coherent arguments on the current immigration crisis. Immigration in large part by large numbers of people hostile to western values.
What are Western values? Would it be ok if every immigrant was French and they came to compose 50% of the population? Whatever you imagine as Western values, would it be possible for an Indian Hindu to hold these values and would you be ok with England becoming a "Western" but majority Hindu Indian nation due to mass immigration from India? I'm not ethnically English, but I think it's important for a people to be able to say: "I want my people to remain the majority in my country." This doesn't mean you hate others, it just means you don't hate yourself.
@@Saddamuel You do bring up an interesting point, though it's actually a non-issue. It's never the case that you do have 50% of a nation being Hindu but accepting of said nation's own values, and religion. There are a few reasons for this. You can only ever have 50% of your nation be something that is anti- your nation. In theory, I am certainly pro-Indians controlling England if they support English values. White skin is not itself the aim or most important element. Following this logic, we would allow white Nazis to control England, and it would still be England since they're white. This is clearly wrong. The most important thing is culture, values, not race. It just so happens that, in general, there is a connection between culture and race. In reality, what is happening in the UK is radical Islam -- with both white and brown/Arab people -- is taking over. The data is already in. London will be Muslim by 2080. He keeps talking about 'freedom ideals' and 'Africans', but the actual point should be Islam, terrorism, and dictatorship. He's also wrong that money can only grow if you're being invaded by another race. How did Rome grow? It grew by having control over its people and other peoples. Rome didn't grow by being overthrown; in fact, that's partly how it fell. He must also explain how the British Empire did so well for at least 300 years. England has grown in every sense for 2,000 years without Muslims coming to the lands. The same is true for Europe, actually. (Also, from a technical standpoint, you don't need 5 million Arab/black workers, since there are literally 5 million white people without jobs that could be forced to do those jobs. So, there is actually a way to force those jobs into place. He suggests that it's only possible with Muslims and Africans. We could also allow in more Jews and Indians, or any number of other groups.) Now, let's throw some logic into this. If England is Islamic in 100 years, how would we magically still enforce a sense of freedom and growth? And with the amount, you cannot make it all legal. It's too many. How does he plan on letting in 50,000+ illegals and 600,000 legals each year, as it's slowly getting to (mostly Muslim). Even if we dip that to just 400,000 each year, all legal -- we're still talking about many anti-British Muslims (according to leftist studies, by the way) and even many terrorists. UK prisons are also flooded by non-white men, for what that's worth. 400,000 per year mean that in 40 years, we'll be overtaken. That's how numbers work. We're talking about more Muslims than white people very soon. By definition, when whites are the minotiry, they won't be able to have the dominant culture. They are not assimilating to British society. The data is clear. (Note that to some degree he was not right. 50% of U.S. murders are by 7% of the population -- black men. And many of the gangs are Mexican, black, brown, etc. So, purely from a data standpoint, there is a real issue with non-whites not fully assimilting into American culture. And he's actually partly wrong: Muslims DO want to kill all white people in London. They openly state it all their riots every week. Studies find 50% of Muslims want gays to be in prison and 13% want them stoned to death. This guy is just lying or ignorant on a lot of this stuff. It sounds like he's trying to rationialise it to himself.) P.S. Without millions of anti-British Muslims and such, there would be more self-respect and living space and wealth for white women to have children. Unclear if this is true, but it's an argument. So, when he says, 'with or without millions of Muslims, white women would still not be giving birth'. How does he know that? Partly, the deeper problem is self-hatred and failure to give birth, I agree with him. And part of that is waves of Muslims flooding the UK.
Thought this was gonna be about the bs Tucker interview. Instead, 3/4 of it is about how "mass migration is good and we should all just accept it". Hard pass
nothing bs about it... the bs is these pretend centrist actors, or conservative friendly in the case of triggonometry guys, is calling a historian a fasc cause he interpreted certain things about the past a certain way...
@@MarsiaAschierirz-wv5oq It was a good interview about WW2 Myths by Daryl Cooper. An non partisan Honest historian who sees through history written by victors.
@@MaxPayne-fi1mz Non-partisan, honest historian??? Not sure what you mean by that, but as far as the facts on WW2 are concerned, Cooper was just flat out wrong. He was as wrong as wrong can be. You can have your interpretation or your own particular analysis, but you still have to master the facts. Cooper did not do that.
I'm generally a fan of Niall's work but his comment regarding mixed-raced unions being our future and that we should embrace it was frankly disgusting. He's effectively arguing in favour of the ethnic cleansing of the British and I would bet my house on the fact that he would never make the equivalent claim for an African nation. Also, his claim that Anglo-Saxon ideals are not unique to the British is wrong. Those ideals emerged from our culture; not out of thin air. There's a reason some nations gravitate towards liberty and some to tyranny.
Well.. realistically, if there were none whatsoever of the current evil-political-globalist-agenda- driven enforced massmigrations, it would be only a matter of time… albeit much longer time, before humanity would become a beige civilization so to say - the problem is, of course, exactly that unnatural-forced- sudden- political-globalist-manipulating that otherwise natural process of what would take… what, maybe few hundred years plus… of humans moving, travelling, mixing of the races across the globe until it becomes a mix-match of all and everyone everywhere - in that long timespan, however, cultures and people would be able to naturally adapt and adopt and figure ways of a peaceful live-and-let-live -
Interracial marriage of consenting adults does not constitute "ethnic cleansing". Immigrants aren't invaders. Refugees don't arrive on your shores with the express purpose of exterminating Anglo-Saxons. If you can't tell the difference between melanin and genocide, self-analysis is probably in order.
Ferguson literally wrote book about the unique characteristics of Western culture that make it so unusually & disproportionately successful. It was given several titles, but they were basically variations on "Civilization: The West and The Rest". But there's nothing unique about English history or tradition, they're basically interchangeable.
@@cavalieroutdoors6036it’s so frustrating isn’t it. And if you try to tell people where we are headed you are called a conspiracy theorist. I feel like we’re lemmings being forced to walk off the cliff with the rest of the lemmings.
Dude needs to step out of his ivory tower and head over the council estates up and down the country and see what all this immigration is really doing….
And crazy is the 'mass immigration'......... of the 'Great Britain'........ Area U K (Eng, Sco, Wal), = 210,000m2 ; population 61 million ! Area State of Victoria(Aus) = 227,000m2 ; population 6.7 million ! (smallest state of AUS) So crowded, yet you keep letting more in ! WHY ?
This is the problem,they want to invite all in the country where middle working class MUST deal with them while they are so safe and comfortable in their elite status
Niall Ferguson doesn't have to bear the consequences of any of his policies, he has acquired US citizenship and has a cushy job at Hoover institute with think tank money.
@@ghostridertom He can advocate for lofty ideas while working class people actually have to bare the brunt of them. He doesn't have to see the daily racial strife caused by mass immigration because he has the privilege of pretending like it's all sunshine and rainbows. He genuinely thinks that most immigrants are like his wife when intelligent hard working people are in the vast minority when it comes to current immigrants.
Yes. Annoys me too. The Irish (my ancestors) did not expect hand-outs on arrival. We did not complain about the quality of services and healthcare given to us for free. We lived in squalor and worked our way out of it.
@@peanutbutterbruv And a lot of Irish people were forced into those boats, and they were able to prove they wanted to become a part of the country, first by fighting in the civil war in USA yeh?
"White future" = all the non-white people are gone... By some means that we can probably imagine. "Brown future" = people are free to intermingle, live, engage in relationships, and have mixed children. Eventually-maybe another several hundred years in the future-being mixed is the norm. Idk about you, but i think the first scenerio would be a bad thing. The second sounds fine and natural. Not really equivalent statements.
All i got from this interview is that we should expect WW3 because we are doing the same things that we did that led to WW2. Maybe we should try to stop mass migration
@@henryskalitz9094 And this is the nub of the problem. People like Ferguson and Lord Roberts have hard set the establishment version of WW2. Every geopolitical situation is always viewed through their reductive lens of “appeaser” or “aggressor”. It’s absolutely dreadful and has led to most of the conflicts since the war ended. They have this appalling “Manichaean” ideology where everything is either black or white.
Mass immigration did not cause ww2, unless you count German calls for living room as mass immigration at the expense of all their neighbours. Ww2 was caused by racial hatred and german expansionism as well as a grudge being held over the terms of the defeat in ww1. The mass immigration of today is very different from that of the past in that its the people who come here that hate the countries they enter rather than the other way around
We might not agree with his views on immigration, but as a moderate right I appreciate him calling out those who have gone too far and can safely be labeled fascists. It can feel pretty lonely when you are neither far right nor progressive.
Spot on. It is shocking to see the right turning into equally insane traitors as the SJW brigade. They are openly sympathizing with the enemies of democracy (and I mean that in an actual sense, not in the way politicians use it as a meaningless slogan to demonize the opposition). It is totally rational to oppose mass immigration, but to try and rewrite history to whitewash the actual fascists/nazis and to cheer for war criminals trying to rebuild the Soviet evil empire is utterly insane and it's fundamentally indecent and immoral. Trump was great when he ran last time, in 2020 (and he would have won if the Democrats hadn't pulled manipulative shenanigans like the Biden Laptop cover-up), but he seems to have gotten so bitter he has actually turned against the very things he once used to defend (back then, the accusations of Russian influence on Trump were entirely a fiction of the media & Democrats, but now at least the people he surrounds himself with - like Carlson and Musk - are actually peddling Russian disinformation unashamedly. I really hope when he gets full intelligence briefings again, Trump will change his mind, as airhead Kamala and her party have already proven to be fundamentally unserious about defending the West against it's enemies. If Biden had sent Ukraine all the aid he slow-walked in one go at the start of the war, the war in Ukraine would already have been concluded successfully for Ukraine, but instead he self-deterred (he had no plan and didn't even dare to say Ukraine must win) until a stalemate had resulted from the half-hearted approach. Same applies to Israel - if Israel had listened to the Biden administration, they would have stayed out of Rafah and Yahyar Sinwar would still be alive. I really wish people would think about the consequences of their demands. The right always condemned the left for failing to do that, yet now they do the exact same thing thinking they'll get "peace" by appeasing hostile dictators and rewarding their aggression with concessions. Giving a bully the lunch he tried to steal won't result in him stopping to bully others - it only encourages him to do it again. How hard can it be to get that? (This is why Reagan chose "peace through strength".)
@@henryburton6529 ''Pathological liar''?? Maybe your comment is a lie. Everyone tells lies at times in their lives, however to establish if it's pathological, a psychiatric evaluation has to be done on the person first.
@@henryburton6529 Everything Tucker says is absolute 100% truth. Henry Burton's account is a sock puppet account created by a PR firm to gang stalk and discredit anyone standing up against the global elite's plan for a totalitarian NWO.
Then you'll get mass immigration. Most racists aren't 100% racial purists. In reality, right now, our leaders are imposing mass immigration. If they keep going, it's over. What do you mean by mass immigration anyway? What distinguishes it from immigration?
Correct! The lesson of the 20th century is that racial purity leads to bad things. Not that you must despise and destroy your own ethnic group to be a good person…
This is the second interview I’ve heard of him and he is insufferable. He’s another high IQ academic who can’t see past his own nose. He wants to “fight the good fight” and he believes in polarization. Things are too black and white for him.
I really hope you don't have any job that requires a reading comprehension level higher than a middle schooler. Cooper explicitly said that the vast numbers of deaths in Eastern Europe were due to the Nazi's lack of preparation for dealing with prisoners of war. Ferguson explained that this is directly contradicted by statements from the Nazi leaders and by their actions and provided enough detail that you could look up the primary sources yourself thus, showing Cooper wasn't telling the truth. Further, since anyone who studied this topic in high school or read one general history of World War II would know about the Hunger Plan, the Commissar order, the Wanesse conference, or the rest, (e.g. any book by Kershaw, Ferguson himself, Richard Evans, or even seen a Netflix documentary), it is beyond doubt that Cooper knew about the Nazis genocidal plans and deliberately concealed them. Therefore, he is covering for Nazi atrocities and is likely a Nazi himself
@AnythingMachine if you begin with an ad hominem I stop reading your reply. If you want an opportunity to persuade anyone, don't start by being an ass.
So odd how you attack Tucker on issues of race when speaking of London and he has the same opinion as Douglas Murray in a Strange Death of Europe. Look, just because you dumped your first family for Sade and use self depreciating digs like "Dead White guys" doesn't get you an invite to the BBQ
If the west has a low birthrate, here is a thought: instead of channeling money into bringing and trying to assimilate/ integrate new people how about using all those funds to make life easier, for the people already here, to raise their kids and thus increase the current citizens birthrate? People are not having kids because it’s too expensive to have proper housing, eduction and living standards for their offsprings and themselves.
The problem with your solution is that it doesn’t really cost money to have immigration. In Fact they contribute much more to the economy and enable pension for more and more old and older people to be paid.
@@McNeish I wish there were no costs but there are many to bring migrants. Not only are there expenses in the process in itself (agencies, patrols, embassies etc) but it also cost to integrate them into to the host country (initial housing, feeding, education, job relocation, medical assistance etc) and that is not even considered if the host country has to sustain an entire family where only one head works. Once these migrants start working they send between 15% up to 60% of the households income to their country of origin. In the long run, host nations may end up indirectly financing other nations instead of recovering their initial investment on the migrant. According to the OECD “Expressed in percent of GDP, the resulting net impact is generally small, with a few exceptions where countries have large immigrant populations, such as Switzerland and Luxembourg, where the net fiscal impact is large and positive.” In these two countries the economic migration is in great part high skilled labour. The great majority of the immigrants to western economies is of low skilled workers, thus they need much more government assistance than the current population. And all of this is not even taking into consideration the social impact and consequences to the host country that a large amount of new immigrants may have.
I love Ayaan, (even if I'm a hardball atheist), but let's be honest - very few immigrants are as brilliant and committed to Western values as she is... "Civilizations don't clash"???? WHAT? It's also heartbreaking to see Sir Ferguson throw his 'white kids' under the bus. A sinister move there
I lost what little respect I had for her when she acted like an obnoxious idiot in that discussion she had with Dawkins, talking about her phony “conversion” to fake Christianity. She also, was never really an atheist, either. She just didn’t like her original religion because they were mean to her. She never gave up magical thinking. But, she hasn’t really adopted Christianity, either. Like Peterson, she avoids admitting if she believes in resurrection, miracles, etc,, which is sine qua non for being an actual Christian!
Its not that people can’t be a part of liberal culture when immigrants but mass wave migration is destructive for all involved. Also its racist of elitists like Niahl to claim that other nations are bad and cultures there don’t deserve people to build up nations vs run to the west which is now corrupt leftists.
Exactly. She is not an example of the people of Smalia. She actively rejected their culture and religion before she left. She has less in common with those people than your average white, liberal cat-lady. She is "one of us" - and was from the moment she left. If every person who left Smalia were like her, then we'd be falling over ourselves to import more of them. But she is not. So we are not.
Super disappointing for the Triggernometry crew. Feel like I got Gaslit for an hour. I'm not sure if someone has a gun to their head or not. Blink SOS next podcast if your in distress lads
I'm not disappointed, it shows objective rationality to present and hear the other side, no matter how much they may disagree. That being said, this guy made nothing but claims about the ways systems work without ever elaborating on the evidence for those claims. He just asserts what reality is.
Long interview about this guy Cooper who makes windy, outrageous claims w zero sources as Niall points out. Here you come making claims with … zero evidence.
Some good points, but Niall Ferguson ignores key logical points regarding mass third-world immigration: the law of supply and demand, the fact that stable societies develop organically and find a narural equilibrium, the fact that a high share of young men in a population is a risk factor for war. The economic argument for mass immigration is rendered null and void if society becomes lawless or, dare i say, two-tiered.
The economic argument is flawed too. Ever increasing growth and kicking the can down the road over and over is not suistainable. It's a ponzi scheme that benefits the early investors (of which Niall is very well connected) at the expense of an eventual collapse.
I'm always baffled by the fact that we never talk about the fact that part of the reason that integration fails to happen is the motivation of those arriving. If you come for purely economic reasons, why would you have any care for the culture and history of your new home? We should not be opposed to immigration. We should be wary of those who are only attracted to our country by what they can get out of it.
It’s bonkers how the only people against mass deportation are the ones who don’t have to live the experience of it daily. Stores closing, homelessness, crime, radicalized policies. I don’t get how the average Joe person can justify open borders rationally. The academics can justify anything, so they don’t count for much and contribute to destabilizing forces. The imbalance is breathtaking.
The funny thing about your post is it is precisely, 180 degrees wrong. The people most against immigration and most pro-deportation are the people who live in areas with fewer immigrants, not the areas with more. These are objective facts easily verified via surveys of attitudes towards immigration. The fact that you feel differently doesn't make it true.
@@assistantref5084 Here's the process: immigrants move in, natives who liked the previous culture move out if they can. Those who don't like the changes but are powerless to resist will resign themselves to the change and integrate into the top down pro-immigration culture - or they will just say nothing. In London, these areas tend to have young professionals who are less rooted and people who work within a power structure that would ostracise them at any hint of opposition to immigration. As this new reality imposes itself, young people growing up in this context will see it as the new normal and develop a perhaps conflicted sentimentality to this new existence and this evolves into triumphalism. The most pro immigration areas are populated by immigrants, unrooted young professionals, elites with a vested interest in aligning themselves with elite immigrationism, and the people who have no choice but to accept their new reality or face the psychological pain of seeing oneself as a defeated people. There might be some opposition to colonisation once the colonised people realise what is happening, but eventually, the more colonised a place becomes, the more accepting of the colonisation it becomes. Think of the new generation of ethnic English being raised in London schools today as native or indigenous children being sent to residential schools, raised Christian, and married into their colonists. I could frame all of the above as a positive, but the process is the same.
@@Saddamuel That's a very long-winded, patronizing and overblown (especially the last metaphor) way of saying "you're right, areas with more immigrants do have higher approval for immigration, not lower as the original poster falsely stated."
@@assistantref5084 It's what is happening. You didn't actually argue my point because you have this canned "gotcha" response you've seen used before. I was pointing out the obvious underlying truth of the original comment or at the very least what it's getting at. You jumped in with an argument you've seen used before and you applied it in a place where it wasn't quite relevant. I think you know what was being said and you slightly mischaracterized it: she suggested that those who oppose deportation tend not to have to live with the negative consequences of immigration.
I didn't "argue your point" because anyone who seriously says that "ethnic English" are "being raised in London schools today as native or indigenous children being sent to residential schools, raised Christian, and married into their colonists" is so far from reality that there's no point in arguing with them. Your post is a huge wall of inherently unverifiable, speculative psychobabble. It's not subject to refutation because it isn't subject to verification. Unlike the verifiably false claim made by the original poster that "the only people against mass deportation are the ones who don't have to live with the experience of it daily," a statement that is the opposite of actual reality.
Ya I could tell right away he was off his rocker 3 minutes in, because he was saying that the WEF puppet, Yuval Noah Harari, was his source of information on anything.
@@kemuse1which is hilarious because Konstantin desperately wants everyone to think it’s the right that’s becoming woke. Is it the whole right political spectrum, konstantin, or is it just you?
Boomer take as per - sees everything via an economic lens when this is absolutely not the point. The solution is to create a high value economy and not rely on foreign labour. Not all cultures are the same and not all are compatible. We are a nation, not an economic zone. Completely ignores the fact that 2nd and 3rd generation Muslims In the U.K. are more extreme than ever.
I think he is wrong on the economic point too. Older people really don't make the same level of demands on the economy. They don't need schools or universities. They don't commit crime, so they don't need police or prisons. They hardly use roads, bridges and other infrastructure, and need less fuel. They tend not to break stuff, or vandalise things - they take care of their stuff and the environment. They make fewer demands on the power grid. They have greater medical demands, and that's it. Nothing compared to an under-25-year-old.
Don’t start that boomer shit. I’m one and I do not think like him or do many of my friends or see the cost of everything and value of nothing as the saying ,repeatedly gets trotted out , goes. Neither am I a pathetic Neo liberal.
Lots of 2nd and 3rd generation Muslims also feel cheated. Those who radicalize don't seem too bright. A bit like the middle class kids joining Antifa and smashing capitalism on their iPhones.
Also, how do we have this narrative where AI, Robotics, increases in productivity and efficiency will destroy most jobs and leave millions and millions without work, while also pushing this idea that we need more people to keep our welfare state and economy going? Well which one is it? It can't be both. Also, how millions of people who cannot or barely read, don't even know basic maths, are culturally completely different etc. are supposed to benefit anyone remains a mystery to me
Sir Niall getting a great deal of flack in the comments section.. fascinating. I'd say he was spot on about the existential threat of 'dark side' thinking, also in his assessments of Putin and his apologists. If the Islamic-woke alliance is weird, the free speech-fascist alliance is even more so.
I feel Sir Niall was more focused on race in regards to immigration when your point was the fact the "problem" immigration is from hostile, non-cohesive cultures, such as Islamist cultures. And again his historical examples of it working - Irish, Poles, Jewish... all had simiilar culture to ours, they're bad examples. He is avoiding the issue with hostile Islamist culture. The culture HIS WIFE ESCAPED. His example with Native Americans is even bad. As a historian I'm rather disappointed in him describing British " going around hunting Natives". A lot of the time the colonists were peaceful and there was a lot of working together with Natives. Yes there were some attacks from both sides and some bad stuff, but to describe it like it was simply a slaughter and British hunting Natives is so misleading. The colonists were initially MASSIVELY outnumbered, of course they weren't going around trying to cause wars with all the Native tribes.
Good points. And I'm sure Ferguson understands this. He also knows how ordinary people suffer from the effects of the current mass unregulated migration. The worry is why does he go against logic and data, ignore the opinion of the native people and their suffering, and instead, turn to fascist-tarring instead? What has happened to him?
Jewish immigration into Europe, whether one likes it or not, has been responsible for the deaths of more europeans than any European conflict and part of precipitating WWiI
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He is doing that, presenting facts to refute Cooper's argument. But I think Ferguson is just pointing out that it's weird to give such a prominent platform to a guy who doesn't actually seem to be an expert. Indeed, Cooper subsequently refused to debate an expert on the issue.
@@adamredwine774 really you could be persuaded to either position? You seem like a well-informed, intelligent person if you appreciate both of these men, but how can you not have a fixed position on this enormously important issue?
I think it is erroneous to make a comparison between the German persecution of 0.5% of their population in the holocaust and the genuine fear many Europeans feel about becoming a minority in their ancestral homelands.
Neil, your wife is awsome, but she was a true refugee. Most of the people in the mass migration are not refugees. There are economic migrants. There are way to many coming into the US and UK too quickly. They are causing a strain on these countries that makes the citizenry upset. Plus your wife left Islam and integrated into the West.
@@glennanderson8981 Niall Ferguson doesn't have to bear the consequences of any of his policies, he has acquired US citizenship and has a cushy job at Hoover institute with think tank money.
Neil is the guy to say nothing is happening despite the fact in the past 5 years, most historical places and churches in the UK have burnt to the ground despite being there since the 1700s.
Can someone explain to me how it makes more sense economically and/or socially to pay a percentage of someone’s childcare rather than paying women to look after their own children, as we do in the UK? I can almost guarantee that women would have more children if they weren’t economically pressured into handing them over to strangers.
Because one of them frees them to do other things versus the other one merely pays them to do what they were already doing. Economically, that allows women the work, get educated, run the home etc. Socially, children being around other children hella socialize them.
I have always disliked Ferguson, a de facto court poet of Klaus Schwab, he is only missing the motley suit and the little bells…and using the excuse of analyzing a crackpot podcaster (ie Tucker’s guest) to write another paean to Davos only confirms the rightness of my dislike. He is, quite conspicuously, the true face of the enemy of western culture.
I disagreed with about 90% of the points the good professor makes, which is why I think it's essential that you gave him a platform. Excellent interview. Piercing questions. I hated it so much I just had to keep watching to see how much worse it would get. Comparing migration to Germany 1880-1933 with migration to any Northwestern European country in recent years is flat-out wrong - the numbers speak for themselves. (Trickle vs Tsunami) We really need to grow out of using the term "Sub-Saharan African". This term encompasses many different regions and cultures. My partner is an Arabic-speaking African Muslim. It's a society I have learnt quite a bit about; they have very different attitudes towards women, gay people, the role of religion in society, sex outside of marriage, the treatment of women in marriage, the way women should behave and dress themselves in public, attitudes towards cultural and religion minorities, and even different races. Ferguson's seems not to know his wife's culture very well - perhaps he hasn't had the chance to get to know his in-laws. I appreciate how sad that is (I have followed Ayaan's career for a long time) - but the professor ought to be aware of that very real blind-sight he has. It's not a question of race or ethnic background. It is a question of values, culture and ethics. Just because somebody learns English, doesn't mean they have culturally assimilated. Some immigrant groups marry the native population and mix. There is clearly an issue where mixed marriages do not occur, either because of the sheer numbers which are constantly being replenished from the home country or because some groups actively avoid inter-marriage. This creates an environment where extremists can put down routes and spread their tentacles. Within Islam, there are extremist preachers who argue that the faithful should not even become friends with non-Muslims, let alone marry them and have children with them. Over time this fosters resentment, distrust and intergenerational grudges (... and, yes, I am from Northern Ireland - but the same thing has happened in the Balkans, Cyrpus, India, Nigeria where two or more large groups co-exist uneasily - and the consequences are a matter of historical fact that I won't reherse here). South American migration to USA/Canada is different again; those immigrants are mostly from a Christian background, and will eventually intermingle, befriend and marry the native American population (including black, white, indigenous and many others). Neil has a habit of creating over-arching, all-encompassing theories that seek to explain everything. He should, instead, focus on the particular, the specific and the local - which is a more accurate way of assessing events in different times, different places, with different people.
@@RichardEnglander In July 2019, Harari was criticised for allowing several omissions and amendments in the Russian edition of his third book 21 Lessons for the 21st Century, using a softer tone when speaking about Russian authorities. Leonid Bershidsky in The Moscow Times called it "caution-or, to call it by its proper name, cowardice" He was being sarcastic.
Not sure about Ferguson's views on the changing of Britain. Ferguson is a brilliant historian, but as far as Britain is concerned I'd rather take advice from David Starkey.
Nial is a wonderful writer. He hasn't engaged with the fact that the most hospitable countries to recent immigrants have, having seen the effects, changed their minds. Swedes, Danes, Germans and Britons wanted immigration to work. It does for the migrants. The concerns of Europeans have to be taken into account, and they haven't been.
Which books of his have you read that make you think he is striving for fashionability?? His first major book a volume a counter factual history essays starting with one he wrote about how the UK was the chief villain of WW1 which was quite unpopular and shocking at the time. He is a staunch classical liberal who supports markets over the state, that has not been fashionable in a very very very very very very long time.
Things also "analogous with the positions of Hitler" include workers rights, the NHS, animal welfare, public smoking bans, welfare programs and the calling of war to be made upon Russia.
Workers rights LOL Nazis occupied trade Union offices and murdered Union members. Shortly afterward, they confiscated Union funds. They arrested union organizers, (who were promptly shipped to concentration camps,) and officially abolished the unions. A few weeks later, Hitler issued a decree banning collective bargaining. The guy he put in charge of labor relations literally promised: "to restore absolute leadership to the natural leader of a factory- that is, the employer. Only the employer can decide." Also, pretty sure the NHS doesn't exterminate epileptics and "undesirables" while providing healthcare.
I'd like to keep Britain British. Opening the doors to all and sundry is not working. He makes an argument for it on economic terms yet the GDP per capita of the UK is going down, the country is getting poorer not richer because of immigration. Immigration is fine as long as it is controlled, letting in people with skills that are needed, instead, we're letting in low skilled, low wage people. Doing that just because the population may go down seems like a disaster in the making.
So, when had England been completely British? Was it before the Anglos and the Saxons. How about during the time of the Roman Empire? Not to mention the messy Welsh and Scotts you had to share an island with which were in companion with the Brits. Never mind you also had the Normans and the Plantagenet which also concord parts of England. So when did this mythical past occur?
I am on the right, but I am at a season where I want to hear all the information and debates and then I want to filter them and decide what I think. But I want to hear them all and the arguments.
Absolutely fantastic discussion. It is definitely odd that Niall thinks that it's possible for Muslims migrating to the West to adopt Western values when Islam has a 1000 year history of conquest. I realize why he says this personally, and he is incredibly sincere in his explanation of why it's necessary, but his wife is a special case and we all know it. The West has a massive weak spot when it comes to Islam, and it's a numbers game: too many Muslims and you don't have western values anymore. It's rather simple. It's not the Poles, or the Eastern European Jews or Italians that are the problem, and well know it. Maybe Douglas Murray understands this better than Niall, however noble his plea is. Yes, allow for some migration from Africa, and the Middle East, but keep the percentage to a "reasonable" level. In my city of Toronto, we have swamped the local population with more than a million immigrants in just a year or so. In a city of 3.5 Million. I don't even recognize my society anymore. I never voted for this, nor did anyone else. It's hardly democratic. The same thing is happening in the US: using non democratic means to demographically alter a society. BTW this is not an issue of race for sane people, it's one of culture. Plain and simple.
It was a million total, not in toronto and people vote for Trudeau 3 times in a row. He said he was going to increase immigration, I will give to you that not as much as the last 2 years.
"Islam has a 1000 year history of conquest" is one of the most baffling elisions in history I've ever seen. When you're talking about 1,400 years of history, any statement "X is [insert idiotic statement here]" is going to reveal far more about the speaker than the actual historical record... that's thing about these facile arguments on the left and the right - no one actually seems particularly interested in history or in a debate for that matter in which colocutors actually marshall evidence. They're far more interested in fishing for any evidence that confirms their own preconceived notions
@@brunobaretta5522 Islam is a religion of almost endless conquest. Christians had a reformation, Islam never did. Islam is a solid block of granite, a totalitarian approach to all parts of life, and includes jihad as a trap door to allow for almost every possible malevolence. Most Muslims ignore the worst mercenary parts baked into their religion, thank goodness, but the solid 10% of the religion that remains "jihadist" always begins to take over a society once there is any opposition. You have 1000 years of proof. Specific enough for you?
He speaks more like a snake oil salesman. I suppose that a few people, like you, would find such affectation "eloquent." I'm unwilling to make that concession.
"Population collapse" - sigh. If you can grow a population you can shrink it. If your economic system cannot cope with this it was faulty to begin with.
It begs the question: if it doesn't matter who lives here, why can't only white people live here? It's clear that they actually think that it's only okay for non-white people to live here. He largely suggested that if Africans didn't exist, it would be a problem, but if white people didn't exist, it would be normal. Of course, he claimed to care about the slow death of many groups and races, yet he also suggests we should all become a blended brown race. Doesn't that mean everybody is lost? I did see some report that said that all humans will be Asian in the far future (it was endless years, cannot remember the number). I actually care about different races exist, which is why I largely think everybody should keep to themselves. Now, if this does mean certain groups die out, wouldn't that be natural? Is it our job to force the Africans to live, even at the cost of ourselves? That's self-hatred and pathetic. And this sort of talk always comes from the Scottish, I've noticed. He said, 'love one another'. I love the Russians... from a distance. I don't want Russia to no longer exist, I just don't want them taking over my culture. They should stay where they are, as they have done for the last 30,000 years. Everybody understood this until 17 seconds ago, when we had to all pretend to love globalism and secretly hate only the white race -- or, at least, support clearly anti-white and pro-otherness policies. I've noticed that he's not demanding that Germans flood Japan, for example. I've noticed he has not once said that we should see about getting rid of the Japanese people for the sake of their culture. Just put Germans in funny hats and give them old swords, then they'll be Japanese in their place, and will work harder, so they'll make even more money! I notice he didn't say that. It only applies to England. The only nation that's allowed to be gutted and replaced is England. (It's also a lie that it's unavoidable. You can easily avoid migration. We're an island. Don't let anybody in. Most nations do this all the time. It's nothing new. I thought he teaches history? Every nation ever has had strong borders, and a real racial sense. Beyond that, they did require that you actually assimilate to the culture. Does he want Muslims to become Catholics, or is he just going to pretend that Muslims are fine in London? He never really gave a real plan, he just offered idealism.)
I'd like to see him give his address and one of his spare bedrooms up. Yes Dr. Shrinker, I will work(Do the dishes of the food we eat from your refrigerator) So you should be happy. I sleep late so I don't want no loud rap music being played and I also don't like the N-Word. So watch what rap you sing too Fool.
Interesting so in the opinion of Sir Neill, if you question mass immigration you’re at the top of a slippery slope towards genocide. I wonder if he might want to revisit this statement at a later time
He'll be a ghost watching the invaders line his people up, fingers crossed his kids won't become racists and defend themselves. "Stay proper! You're the last British!"
Oddly, it was discontent regarding immigrants in Germany that facilitated the rise of national socialists in the first place. The through-line between mass migration and genocide is straight. That Jews were notorious for both immigrating into foreign lands and consolidating portions of merchant markets is historically well-documented. It is also a salient feature for conflict between Jews and the indigenous peoples of all lands going back to Pharaonic Egypt. It was an easy sell for the common German. Today that sentiment is largely viewed as "anti-semitic", but it is no less true.
I cannot disagree with you enough. Jews historically have been happy to adhere to the laws of the host country and have generally contributed positively. What they haven’t done is arrive en masse and demand not only special accommodation but expect their religious diktats to be followed by every body else. This is the disconnect is Fergusons reply: it’s nothing to do with race, it’s to do with a fixed belief system that propagates wave after wave of self righteous, religious morons who are proud of their stupidity to the point that they happily commit violence, refuse to integrate and leach the host country of benefits because they’re told they deserve it. In fact they really are the genocidal fascists that Ferguson is terrified of. A form of fascism that Ferguson has plenty of indirect experience of through his lovely wife. It seems to me that there was an open goal provided for him by Konstantin and instead he started rambling about genocide like the most retarded leftist and fell flat on his face. Hopefully he’s not so divorced from reality that some pushback will percolate into the rarefied air of his everyday social media presence
Sadly, I find that all Scottish people are the same at this point. I've not heard a single logical Scottish man since Hume, I feel like. Scotland burns around them, and they say, 'well, that's weird, this shouldn't be happening'. No shit. Maybe you could consider putting out the fire?
Culture has nothing to do with ethnicity. Culture is a man-made structure that is composed of many ethnicities, if that is what the culture wants or requires.
@@zeddez1005 a baby that wasn’t raised with his mother and father is definitely gonna be a lot different than his mother and father. That’s the difference between culture and ethnicity. Take the baby away from the parents it’ll have the same ethnicity, but it will definitely have a different culture if raised in a different cultural environment. Thanks for proving my point.
Mass immigration currently is out of bounds. For example in Germany and Switzerland the infrastructure is stretchend beyond capacity, to the detriment of everyone who needs to work for a living. Housing, health and food prices have risen by 20 - 30% over the past 15 years, while wages have stagnated. It doesn't take a genius to recognize that's a problem. That's what's driving much of the sentiment against immigration - if the locals can hardly afford life, while illegal immigrants are just taken care of by the state. It doesn't even matter whether that's true in general, it is sufficient that it is true in a few dozen particular cases. In conclusion there needs to be a break, slowing down and giving priority to deliberate immigration rules instead of "whoever makes it". The failure to acknowledge these problems by governments and political parties, until recently, provides the soil on which the new far right movement has grown. I fear it may already be too late to stop it, but we must do all we can to get back to civility.
A professor is one of the people I'd most expect to accept that explanation. In my personal experience, the higher you go within academia, the more useless the people become. "There are some ideas so absurd, only an intellectual could believe them" -- George Orwell
When at any point did he say he wanted illegal immigration? Time stamp please? Oh that’s right he empirically stated that illegal immigration is BAD and should not be allowed!
Oh boy, this was a rough listen: You can no more stop mass migration then you can stop the tide?!? Wrong: open borders is a political choice, not a natural law - and one with severe moral culpability for those for making it. Another pearl: put a Somali in a western institution and they will behave like a westerner?!? Wrong: institutions are downstream from culture, not the other way around. Otherwise, post-war Iraq should be a flourishing democracy, and western institutions would grow out of just about any culture, not just western ones. Frankly, a disappointing performance from the Triggernometry guys. Push back on these claims, please.
No countries have open borders though. There is no such thing. If you think countries have open borders then you’re probably fairly detached from reality
@kingcosworth2643 I personally don't think tucker or Cooper are nzai sympathizers who would like to kill jwes. You might, who's the actual psycho here.
Ferguson is a great example how someone could be an expert in one area, his historical perspective I agree with 100%. But being so clueless on current political issues, particularly immigration. He should stick the history.
Interesting. I don't know of anyone that is saying all immigration is bad. What iis so sad is that i honestly believe we have been a fairly tolerant society and i hate that that is being tested. I was left frustrated by the conversation. I felt there was a certain arrogance, a failure to understand the view point of the ordinary man.
'a failure to understand the view point of the ordinary man' - agree 100%. just not sure if it's borne of willful misinterpretation of the ordinary man or massive blind spot due to their circumstances
I did like the Putin interview. It is always interesting to hear an actual person speak. It does not mean that I believe everything but it just adds information to my knowledge information I am exploring to filter everything thru.
There were two interviews here. One regarding Tucker, Cooper and World War II, where he is right. And a second one on immigration, where he is dead wrong.
I’ll wait until the WW2 series is fully released before I cast judgement. Darryl is excruciatingly detailed with his sources, and I lean toward giving him the benefit of the doubt. Churchill didn’t do so well in WWI. I researched that _on my own._ Gallipoli was a Disaster.
Agreed,I like these guys usually,NialFerguson is an elitist gas bag.Tucker isn't a historian,he didn't realize how ignorant and ridiculous Cooper sounds.
WATCH the rest of the interview and hear *Niall* answer audience questions.
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CHAPTERS👇
00:00 Trailer
00:39 Niall’s knighthood
02:54 Churchill - the baddy of WWII?
05:10 Darryl Cooper is not a historian
06:45 Criticisms of Churchill aren’t new
07:47 Churchill was the saviour of Western civilization
08:34 Cooper is making Nazi arguments
09:45 Debunking Cooper’s claims
16:19 Why is everyone picking on Churchill?
19:28 Tucker is promoting fascism
21:37 SPONSOR: Express VPN
22:55 Has the Right given up on truth?
25:09 Ukraine: the litmus test for whether you’ve crossed over to the dark side
27:23 Is the Right lost?
33:13 There is a real problem of immigration
36:50 Warning: Frustration with immigration can metastasise into theories of racial hierarchy
39:31 Chaos breeds authoritarianism
41:24 Debunking theories of racial superiority
41:59 We have to fight extremism from both Left and Right
44:34 We need interracial breeding to defend against population collapse
47:40 Politicians can’t talk honestly about this
50:07 SPONSOR: Qualia Senolytic
51:56 Illegal immigration infuriates people
54:35 America’s example of integration
57:26 Niall destroys The Great Replacement Theory
1:00:43 We cannot tolerate Islamism in the UK
1:03:40 The unholy alliance of Islamists and the Woke
1:05:24 Free societies have enemies on both sides
1:06:25 A successful model of assimilation
1:09:26 What’s the one thing we’re not talking about?
The amount of Nazis in the comments is very bad but sadly not that surprising...
Well, the people in power have engineered a status quo which encourages mass immigration which is leading to Europeans becoming minorities in their own countries and twerking drag queens in school libraries. You get what you pay for. Don’t want Nazis? Don’t push regular people to the point of desperation.
Nazi 🤔🤣🤣🤣🤣
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What have these Nazis said?
I just saw somebody be accused of that for trying to clarify what Fascism is.
If somebody reads Marx does that make them a Marxist?
@@henryburton6529 "gosh yeah your people are gonna be replaced just maybe a bit slower than current levels, yeah sorry we just really need the cheap immigrant labor ooh sorry, also my wife is black so being strict on immigration would be hypocritical of me, I am very smart"
- Niall Ferguson
I don’t think he really understands the Islamic religion and it’s goal
@@christineharris3509 He is married to a former member of the Muslim Brotherhood. I think he understands.
Highly unlikely given he's literally married to Ayan Hirsi Ali.
@@m.2891 yes and he speaks like he never listened to her. I hope he starts listening sometime.
No. He understands.
@@christophekeating21you speak to her often?
This is a very hard watch. Fergusson’s argument is that: if you’re opposed to mass immigration, then you’re one degree of separation from being a genocidal nazi.
To say I dislike Ferguson is an understatement. He’s awful.
The guy in glasses just sits there and hardly speaks...seems a bit weak
Yeah! That's insane.
Друг, а это тактика такая. Настоящие фашисты/нацисты на опережение всех клеймят и пытаются вызвать чувство вины
Рекомендую посмотреть, как евреев расчеловечивали
These guys had so much promise, shame.
Fergusons argument is, again and again, cite your sources, so we are not gas lit by bs stretching the truth.
What do you do ? Hand wave BS and stretch what was actually said. Enough. Eff off back to your comic books and your “awful” tree fort.
I'm sure Mr. Ferguson does not bring up his children in a Somali culture. He might ask himself why that is.
It’s Sir Niall to you
He wants to import the culture that his wife fled from. Because he's a 'principled' man. Total tosser.
Because he’s a practitioner & defender of liberalism, as is his wife.
It sounds like he and his wife have already discussed why that is.
He might also ask himself why he goes on TH-cam to be feted by a pair of people of a certain ilk, then off the bat immediately puff up a cod-historian of that same ilk.
Kudos to the Triggernometry audience for calling out the utter load of BS that Niall spat out as soon as the conversation about WWII ended.
same before he ends WW2
I've never heard a less convincing argument: "your people must be replaced because gosh we just really need the cheap immigrant labor"
Niall Ferguson has never impressed me and I have lost all respect for him here. truly terrible guest
Obviously racism is bad, but ignoring the destabilizing effect of mass immigration and the threat it poses to western nations/culture (with falling fertility) is incomprehensible to me.
Niall Ferguson wants to remain a respectable voice. See he can't address it. This is the 'Conservative' way since Powell.
I came for the comment section, and I am not disappointed.
I am Black. Yes, Nigerian. Yes, an immigrant. Yes, I feel S
He’s insufferable, the smugness is off the charts.
"I don't know how the NHS would function with out all this immigration"
Quite easily. If we didn't have an extra 6 million people, we wouldn't need the extra 5,000 staff.
This guy is an absurd leftist, his nonsensical points are driving me mad.
He's promoting ponzinomics.
Frankly, he wouldn't have got his knighthood if he wasn't a safe court historian.
This guy doesn't seem to know what aging population means.
Totally agree. Infuriating poisonous garbage.
Almost the only thing he said which I agreed with was that his wife presents better than he does.
@@paulmyers1410 spot on. So stupid he doesn’t even realize the BMA have been allowed to run a closed shop in doctors for years keeping their compensation ridiculously high. They reject 2/3 of applicants deliberately for medicine. We could easily train up our own within 5 years.
If you think Ferguson is a leftist then you are probably an ideologue yourself. The fact is that mass immigration was actually a position of the libertarian right, which is why it was embraced by the European Union (which was strongly influenced by Mont Pelerin neoliberals). Ferguson is a conservative. You can acknowledge this while also disagreeing with his position on immigration.
Niall is blinded by the fact he has married an African, Ayaan seems to have integrated very well into western cultures, but she is not the vast majority of immigrants we have had in recent years, she is the exception not the rule.
How can you be so intellectually blinded by love, you completely forget, or choose to "forget" cultures are different and also cultures are made by what? Particular people's, it doesn't just land at your feet like an offering from the gods.
Who cares anyway, Niall fergusons argument has already been lost, people will not accept mass immigration anymore and they wont be called fascists for it.
On immigration, Niall sounds like the person who says I am not racist because I have black friends. Just because you and your wife are immigrants and have mixed racial children, doesn't mean there is not a problem with immigration policies in the US or England.
So there needs to be work done to integrate and assimilate those people into the culture, just like his wife was.
@@xoxojollyy478or we could just not let them into the country.
Exactly. He is saying what's right for him, his wife and his kids.
His wife is nothing like other Som-a-li. That's why she is famous. She is not an example of what those people are like.
I don't blame him in the slightest. I'd do or say almost anything for my wife and kids too.
However I am an immigrant myself, and I am 100% in favour of closing the doors behind me.
What's weird, is she completely disagrees with him, she's been speaking out against mass migration, because she recognizes the very obvious problems with it. This disconnect between him and his wife is strange. I think it's the fact that he's the white man in the relationship, and the white guilt has affected his thinking on this. Perhaps he should see what his wife has to say on the topic.
I don’t agree with a lot of what Daryl Cooper said. But your guest told on himself the minute he completely dismissed the immigration problem.
Most people if asked would probably prefer to have a smaller, less populous, less economicly impressive and being less of a world power country rather than what it is becoming at the moment.
Small, but proud and intact. With our history and our culture intact, our values untainted and eroded.
If playing the global game means mass migration... how about no.
You're wrong as Niall said, because..... inflation. Or because half-brown kids are better looking than white kids. Haha. But I'm not really laughing. I'm pissed when I realize that people like this guy have way too much influence.
I'd live under the conditions of my grandparents if I could live in the world they lived in any fucking day. I wouldn't even think about it.
A few years of rationing and living on bread, potatoes and gravy in exchange for:
The ability to find a wife who hasn't been corrupted by feminism into thinking that the average man they walk past is more of a threat than wild bears. One who doesnt have 10, 20, 30, 50, 100 previous partners and who doesn't sell her asshole online for £5.
A strong sense of community, knowing all your neighbors names and helping each other out.
An economy where one income can pay a mortgage and a nice holiday each year.
House prices 3-4x the national wage not 10-12.
The ability to raises a family without the existential terror of them being persuaded by AGP psychopaths and social contagion to mutilate themselves once they hit puberty, if not before.
Not being treated like a second class citizen in your own country.
No mass migration.
My grandparents don't realise how good they had it. They got to live through the absolute zenith of UK history and will be dead when the decline REALLY hits and they wont be around for it to matter. As a 90's kid it has only ever been downhill for me. But my nieces and nephews are the ones I REALLY feel bad for.
Even when I point out to him "how many neighbors could you name growing up" and he procedes to rattle off 50 names of kids, their parents, grandparents, local shop owners etc and then I ask him how many he could name now and he can't even get past 6
@@mikebetts2046 inflation is completely nessecary to continue funding Nialls investment buddies and and keep the ponzi scheme he benefits from massively going.
And just look at some of these tiny countries and how well they are off: Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Austria, Switzerland, Singapore etc. I agree.
@@TiGGowich I think the proposal is to be more like Croatia or North Macedonia
Niall's points about needing immigrants for employment are wildly inaccurate, and he just asserts them. No consideration given to productivity increases or reductions/sanctions of welfare for lazy natives. No. It's simply that we need the noble immigrant to come here and suppress wages for the poorest in society so that things remain relatively cheap for the well off.
Frankly, disgusting.
He's an establishment shill.
Was about to type the same thing. How many Uber drivers/Deliveroo moped risers does it take to surge the UK economy out of record debt repayments? The man is economically innumerate. He is severely mistaking the temperature of the country.
@@devinglass9967 Yes I knew this 3 minutes in when he was kissing the butt of Yvall Noah Harari one of Klaus Schwab's favorite fascists puppets....
@@lurker-mq4fp Found out why the government of Western countries are flooding our countries with low wage illegal immigrants, it is a UN document made in the year 2000 called *"Replacement Migration:Is it A solution to declining and ageing populations?"* Check into it. It said that the US should import 50-60 million illegal immigrants. I forget what it said of the UK. Worth looking up.
Niall's next move: joins Dick Cheney in endorsing kamala Harris
Nail littrally said ideas and institutions built Britain, not the native people of the land. The native people built what we all enjoy, over generations of investment, cultivation and hard work and we'reexspected to just hand it over. What a turd of a man.
He really is a globalist boomer, isn’t he? Zero conception of nationhood and zero conception of peoplehood.
He is awful.
@@LloydLaughalot Peoplehood is fascism according to this pillock
As Fred Dibnah once said: 'Britain was built by men in overalls, and taken down by men in suits'.
@@smeinnit709 that’s a great quote from a great working class man. Wonder what he’d make of his beloved Bolton.
Thanks. I think we can both guess...
If Mr Ferguson is at Harvard he is already on a very slippery slope to leftism and wokeism. Irish and zpoles has ultimately the same worldview and values.
He has not been at Harvard in a long time, he is part of the hoover institute. I'm not surprised by the pushback against this episode. Fascism as presented by Giovanni Gentile would be appealing to a segment of "patriotic" Americans given today's domination of the culture and institutions by the left. You could give half of Americans some major points of thought that fascists held since the time of Sparta amd they would agree, then tell them those fall under fascism and they would be mildly conflicted because of German Nazis. But for the Germans fascism might be more openly discussed as a political phylosophy as it was in the 1800s and 1st 30 years of the 1900s. It, along with Liberalism and communism were all at each others thoughts. Because of the Germans, the other two joined in stamping out the ideology in order to eliminate one opponent in the millenia long struggle between the progenitors of today's political phylosophys ie classical liberalism or conservatism, socialism, and the forbidden one, fascism. I for one see fascism adjacent to communism neither can countenance the existence of the other or opposition as that weakens it. Fascism will inevitably leads to war, ethnic or national identity based. Very few Americans know much about the development of the ideas, amd even fewer have the ability to extrapolate ideas forward in time. It is a fact, and I am part of this fact not above it or to the side, the vast majority of comments on you tube are made by people who are just angry, emotional and have shallow knowledge on just a couple topics. So take all coments, mine included with a pound of salt. I like to think I try to be aware of my knowledge gaps and am willing to revise my thoughts and avoid bombastic certainty in my opinions, my ego resides in that and so I think it is rare.
Conservatives trying to make an argument without shout woke: impossible
@@irisbristow2977 but that wasn’t the accepted opinion at the time. Catholicism was seen as being entirely incompatible with democracy. That is not wokeism it’s historical fact.
I’m mixed race and I disagree with him. The indigenous people of a place are the caretakers of their culture. His kids aren’t Scottish or African. Just like how I’m not white nor Filipino. If you import large amounts of foreigners into a place, the culture will change. Whether that’s good or bad for the indigenous population, it is up to them.
They can be half Scottish, half Somali if they want. What's wrong with that?
@@mrror8933 No one is ever an even 50/50 split and most Scots will push against their own culture so it's almost guaranteed where their natural alliance lays.
@@mrror8933 they are talking about culture
@knoaf9092 they might feel Scottish or Somali culturally? It would be worth asking them which identity they feel closer to.
That's the problem it's not up to us. It's up to our politicians and they have stopped listening to us.
@55:27 Niall knows well that after the surge of Irish/Italian/Polish immigration into the US in the 19th century the USA virtually closed its borders for 25 years to let the dust settle.
His omission of this fact is depressingly disingenuous.
US wss whyte only until joo-orchestrated 1965 Immigration Act.
I mean, the border shutdown was a xenophobic reaction pushed by yellow journalism and open racism, not by economic reasoning. If a learned historian were to mention it, it would not be in the supportive way you want them to.
Also note that all those groups were Christian and shared a common basic history.
@@fredneecher1746 Which basic history did the Irish, Italians and Polish share? Also a lot of them were jews.
Well, and shared values because they were all Europeans. It's not the same as importing Muslims
My stomach is aching after that enormous helping of gaslight and bluepills.
Hahaha that’s my exact feeling also.
It’s unfortunate that there isn’t another pill that can be taken for the discomfort caused by being mislead into taking a shed load of blue pills.
@@So_Meh There's always Spaight's 'Bombing Vindicated', a contemporary debunking of the line Sir Niall would take eighty years later, by an Air Ministry official no less.
In case anybody who knows me ever reads this I should clarify that it is his views on current issues I have problems with. I'm sure we agree about Tucker and the history podcaster.
But Carlson's "historian," Cooper, is uninformed or a liar.
It's insane. The second half of the interview had me nearly vomiting. This man is a literal white extinctionist.
Triggernometry has always been containment
You don't need immigration from hostile cultures, suggesting you do shows lack of effort to solve the actual problem which is an environment unfit for raising children, which is made worse by immigration. Very short sighted and ignorant opinion to present as a fact.
That's even worse then letting Putin spout historical fantasies in an interview.
Literally everything Putin said in that interview was true lmao. I agree with everything you said except that.
@@xleobackx see what
Putin is correct on Russia’s history
@@lloydbraun6026 exactly
@@DenethorDurrandir I remember Putin's historical fantasies. Those were hilarious 😂
Where's the push-back? All I see are two bobble-heads.
Seen this way too often lately from Francis and Konstantin
They really blew it on this one.
Yes they did push back on mass migration unlike Tucker did with Cooper
It!? He has a name!
@@mikebetts2046 they did pushback
Viktor Orban, Prime Minister of Hungary is not against immigration per se, he just refuses to take in Muslim refugee/migrants for he has witnessed the chaos that ensues with mass immigration of Muslims in Western European countries. Poland holds the same stance. Both men consider that their countries should be allowed to choose who comes in and who doesn't in order to protect their traditions and culture. Bravo to them. Sir Niall Feguson states that the NHS would collapse if there weren't such a high rate of foreigners who are part of the medical force. He doesn't mention, or ignores, that there are NHS nurses from Nigeria, who are being investigated for 'industrial scale' qualifications fraud. As published in the Guardian and other outlets, this scam involves 700+ healthcare workers, of which 48 are already working in the NHS and are due to face individual hearings. I wonder what he would have to say about that.
And that's just the tip of the iceberg
I was told of this sort of thing from a nurse - putting patients at risk. She has since left the profession.The rubbish pushes the good out.
The question that should be Post to this people who are so gung ho on foreign country medical healthcare providers. Which provider would you choose if you had the choice? An English trained physician or nurse or a Nigerian physician or nurse? If they’re honest they’d ask the question the way you’d expect them to, the way you would. I bet if you asked in Nigerian resident which one they’d prefer they’d answer the same way, as well.
Very good point. The other thing those countries are doing is incentivising people to have more children, so they wont need immigrants to maintain their population. And it's working.
And what goes hand in hand trouble with Muslims is the juices. Their destinies are tied together. And they both should be evicted with equal tenacity. That is pretty simple.
There were some 3,100,000 minutes during the 6 years and 1 day of WW2. 6 million? That's 2 per minute, 24 7 day and night for the full course of the war. Really think about that.
2 per minute for 6 years.
The west, quite frankly, is better off with neither.
Although I don't disagree with most of his points. I think the suggestion that an argument was made by nazis, therefore that argument must be wrong is VERY dangerous. That isn't how we determine right vs wrong
Why don't they ask British people why they are not having enough children , I suspect it is the cost of housing or lack of social housing , the cost of nursery care so the Mother can work to help pay the mortgage or rent , making having more children unaffordable , not enough secure or well paid jobs for men so the mother can choose to stay at home and bring up their children. A lack of investment in training and importing people to do the jobs. and people being taxed to death, maybe these are some of the reasons the native population is below replacement rate.
It's because of female employment.
Well said 👏
It absolutely blows me away that the powers that be can’t figure out that locals don’t have kids because of the cost of living. In the western culture you’re supposed to go forth and forge your own way and in many other countries they live multiple generations in the same household so of course the foreigners can “afford “the cost of living and having children when the locals can’t. I am an uneducated dummy and even I can see it crystal clear. So can pretty much everybody else outside of government and leftist circles.
Lower birthrates are a tradeoff of industrialization. In an agrarian economy, children are an economic asset, assisting with the labor of the farm. In an industrialized economy, children are an economic liability, requiring a lot of resources with no RoI for 18-24 years. I suppose you could have an industrialized economy where children are an asset, but you'd have to go back to child labor in factories and a significant scaling back of educational rigor. Not a tradeoff I think most would be willing to make.
In any case, low birth rates are endemic to the system we've chosen, and you see that in every industrialized nation, regardless of taxation level, housing availability, etc.
You're playing their game. I can prove this easily.
(1) Studies prove the poorest people have the most kids. Poor = kids.
(2) Throughout history, everybody was poor, and yet we clearly always had kids.
The only thing to take away from this is there's no such thing as being 'too poor to have kids'. This is a Marxist lie. It's ironic: the people taking over the UK are Muslims, and Muslim women have about 4 kids per woman on average, which is one of the highest birth rates in the world -- yet most Muslims are poor, as the entire Middle East is relatively poor and Third World.
The only outcome from this line of thinking is fewer kids, which leads to even less wealth, which leads to even fewer kids, which leads to even more Muslims flooding the nation.
It's no accident that this is in line with anti-human idealism. White women are not giving birth because they don't want to or are mentally unable to. The data on this is clear, and has been for 40+ years. It has nothing to do with income. Most rich white women are also not having kids. (Yes, many hyper-rich people do have kids, according to the data -- but this has little impact on the population sizes due to their rarity.)
Everybody was having kids in the 1920s and even the 1950s, indeed. Yet most people were poor. This, you need to explain. It's not an issue around money or vague social care, even. It's way deeper than that. (Poor Jews also have kids, by the way. That's also about 3/4 kids per woman, making it roughly the highest birth rate of all human/racial groups. If you look at African Christians, they also like to have 4+ kids, and most of them are poor. On the other hand, Japanese women are fairly rich and yet refusing to have any kids. Same in South Korea. Look at the data. It's very clear, even the EU reports agree, and they are leftist beyond belief.)
Shocking in contrast to Niall’s wife’s incredibly coherent arguments on the current immigration crisis. Immigration in large part by large numbers of people hostile to western values.
Sir needs to go to Rochdale
What are Western values? Would it be ok if every immigrant was French and they came to compose 50% of the population? Whatever you imagine as Western values, would it be possible for an Indian Hindu to hold these values and would you be ok with England becoming a "Western" but majority Hindu Indian nation due to mass immigration from India?
I'm not ethnically English, but I think it's important for a people to be able to say: "I want my people to remain the majority in my country." This doesn't mean you hate others, it just means you don't hate yourself.
@@Saddamuel You do bring up an interesting point, though it's actually a non-issue.
It's never the case that you do have 50% of a nation being Hindu but accepting of said nation's own values, and religion. There are a few reasons for this. You can only ever have 50% of your nation be something that is anti- your nation.
In theory, I am certainly pro-Indians controlling England if they support English values. White skin is not itself the aim or most important element. Following this logic, we would allow white Nazis to control England, and it would still be England since they're white. This is clearly wrong. The most important thing is culture, values, not race. It just so happens that, in general, there is a connection between culture and race.
In reality, what is happening in the UK is radical Islam -- with both white and brown/Arab people -- is taking over. The data is already in. London will be Muslim by 2080. He keeps talking about 'freedom ideals' and 'Africans', but the actual point should be Islam, terrorism, and dictatorship.
He's also wrong that money can only grow if you're being invaded by another race. How did Rome grow? It grew by having control over its people and other peoples. Rome didn't grow by being overthrown; in fact, that's partly how it fell. He must also explain how the British Empire did so well for at least 300 years. England has grown in every sense for 2,000 years without Muslims coming to the lands. The same is true for Europe, actually.
(Also, from a technical standpoint, you don't need 5 million Arab/black workers, since there are literally 5 million white people without jobs that could be forced to do those jobs. So, there is actually a way to force those jobs into place. He suggests that it's only possible with Muslims and Africans. We could also allow in more Jews and Indians, or any number of other groups.)
Now, let's throw some logic into this. If England is Islamic in 100 years, how would we magically still enforce a sense of freedom and growth? And with the amount, you cannot make it all legal. It's too many. How does he plan on letting in 50,000+ illegals and 600,000 legals each year, as it's slowly getting to (mostly Muslim). Even if we dip that to just 400,000 each year, all legal -- we're still talking about many anti-British Muslims (according to leftist studies, by the way) and even many terrorists. UK prisons are also flooded by non-white men, for what that's worth. 400,000 per year mean that in 40 years, we'll be overtaken. That's how numbers work. We're talking about more Muslims than white people very soon. By definition, when whites are the minotiry, they won't be able to have the dominant culture.
They are not assimilating to British society. The data is clear. (Note that to some degree he was not right. 50% of U.S. murders are by 7% of the population -- black men. And many of the gangs are Mexican, black, brown, etc. So, purely from a data standpoint, there is a real issue with non-whites not fully assimilting into American culture. And he's actually partly wrong: Muslims DO want to kill all white people in London. They openly state it all their riots every week. Studies find 50% of Muslims want gays to be in prison and 13% want them stoned to death. This guy is just lying or ignorant on a lot of this stuff. It sounds like he's trying to rationialise it to himself.)
P.S. Without millions of anti-British Muslims and such, there would be more self-respect and living space and wealth for white women to have children. Unclear if this is true, but it's an argument. So, when he says, 'with or without millions of Muslims, white women would still not be giving birth'. How does he know that? Partly, the deeper problem is self-hatred and failure to give birth, I agree with him. And part of that is waves of Muslims flooding the UK.
I have tremendous respect for Ayaan. It's sad to learn that her husband has the heart of a quisling.
His wife is Aayan Hirsi Ali? I adore her but not so impressed with him.
Thought this was gonna be about the bs Tucker interview. Instead, 3/4 of it is about how "mass migration is good and we should all just accept it". Hard pass
nothing bs about it... the bs is these pretend centrist actors, or conservative friendly in the case of triggonometry guys, is calling a historian a fasc cause he interpreted certain things about the past a certain way...
😂
What did Tucker interview bs?
@@MarsiaAschierirz-wv5oq It was a good interview about WW2 Myths by Daryl Cooper. An non partisan Honest historian who sees through history written by victors.
@@MaxPayne-fi1mz Non-partisan, honest historian??? Not sure what you mean by that, but as far as the facts on WW2 are concerned, Cooper was just flat out wrong. He was as wrong as wrong can be. You can have your interpretation or your own particular analysis, but you still have to master the facts. Cooper did not do that.
Funny how Enoch Powell is proven right today
I'm generally a fan of Niall's work but his comment regarding mixed-raced unions being our future and that we should embrace it was frankly disgusting. He's effectively arguing in favour of the ethnic cleansing of the British and I would bet my house on the fact that he would never make the equivalent claim for an African nation. Also, his claim that Anglo-Saxon ideals are not unique to the British is wrong. Those ideals emerged from our culture; not out of thin air. There's a reason some nations gravitate towards liberty and some to tyranny.
My thoughts exactly. Due to his strong reaction, I will be buying his book as a counter point to compare when coopers WWII series starts to drop.
Well.. realistically, if there were none whatsoever of the current evil-political-globalist-agenda- driven enforced massmigrations, it would be only a matter of time… albeit much longer time, before humanity would become a beige civilization so to say - the problem is, of course, exactly that unnatural-forced- sudden- political-globalist-manipulating that otherwise natural process of what would take… what, maybe few hundred years plus… of humans moving, travelling, mixing of the races across the globe until it becomes a mix-match of all and everyone everywhere - in that long timespan, however, cultures and people would be able to naturally adapt and adopt and figure ways of a peaceful live-and-let-live -
Interracial marriage of consenting adults does not constitute "ethnic cleansing".
Immigrants aren't invaders. Refugees don't arrive on your shores with the express purpose of exterminating Anglo-Saxons.
If you can't tell the difference between melanin and genocide, self-analysis is probably in order.
@@jp1135just bc he’s wrong about mass migration doesn’t mean that Daryl Cooper is right about Churchill and Hitler.
Ferguson literally wrote book about the unique characteristics of Western culture that make it so unusually & disproportionately successful. It was given several titles, but they were basically variations on "Civilization: The West and The Rest".
But there's nothing unique about English history or tradition, they're basically interchangeable.
England has fallen, not with a bang, but with a whimper.
Not even a whimper. They begged for it and are asking fore more. And harder.
@@cavalieroutdoors6036it’s so frustrating isn’t it. And if you try to tell people where we are headed you are called a conspiracy theorist. I feel like we’re lemmings being forced to walk off the cliff with the rest of the lemmings.
To be fair, it wasn't conservative religious Christian English. It was those that succumbed to the religious Leftists Postmodern Wokism.
Who would have thought Elliot was predicting the future
I am always suspicious of people like you: defeatists. England will stumble but England will never fall.
Dude needs to step out of his ivory tower and head over the council estates up and down the country and see what all this immigration is really doing….
And crazy is the 'mass immigration'......... of the 'Great Britain'........
Area U K (Eng, Sco, Wal), = 210,000m2 ; population 61 million !
Area State of Victoria(Aus) = 227,000m2 ; population 6.7 million ! (smallest state of AUS)
So crowded, yet you keep letting more in ! WHY ?
This is the problem,they want to invite all in the country where middle working class MUST deal with them while they are so safe and comfortable in their elite status
Niall Ferguson doesn't have to bear the consequences of any of his policies, he has acquired US citizenship and has a cushy job at Hoover institute with think tank money.
And that is how relevant in this debate? Be more concrete, please.
@@ghostridertom He can advocate for lofty ideas while working class people actually have to bare the brunt of them. He doesn't have to see the daily racial strife caused by mass immigration because he has the privilege of pretending like it's all sunshine and rainbows. He genuinely thinks that most immigrants are like his wife when intelligent hard working people are in the vast minority when it comes to current immigrants.
What an extraordinary thing to claim that the Irish immigrating into the US is comparable to Africans immigrating into Europe.
How is it not analogous?
Yes. Annoys me too.
The Irish (my ancestors) did not expect hand-outs on arrival. We did not complain about the quality of services and healthcare given to us for free. We lived in squalor and worked our way out of it.
@@peanutbutterbruv And a lot of Irish people were forced into those boats, and they were able to prove they wanted to become a part of the country, first by fighting in the civil war in USA yeh?
If the Irish were not allowed to work they would have looked for handouts too
@@OskarBosco-o2w They usually went into business for themselves
44.00 "A brown future is more beautiful than a white one"
imagine inverting that statement.
A white future is angelic.
@@buddyduddyful Angelic or less ethnically and culturally contentious ?
Least self-hating Churchill apologist
Anti white racism is real
"White future" = all the non-white people are gone... By some means that we can probably imagine.
"Brown future" = people are free to intermingle, live, engage in relationships, and have mixed children. Eventually-maybe another several hundred years in the future-being mixed is the norm.
Idk about you, but i think the first scenerio would be a bad thing. The second sounds fine and natural.
Not really equivalent statements.
All i got from this interview is that we should expect WW3 because we are doing the same things that we did that led to WW2. Maybe we should try to stop mass migration
@@henryskalitz9094 And this is the nub of the problem. People like Ferguson and Lord Roberts have hard set the establishment version of WW2. Every geopolitical situation is always viewed through their reductive lens of “appeaser” or “aggressor”. It’s absolutely dreadful and has led to most of the conflicts since the war ended. They have this appalling “Manichaean” ideology where everything is either black or white.
Nice word salad from you
Mass immigration did not cause ww2, unless you count German calls for living room as mass immigration at the expense of all their neighbours. Ww2 was caused by racial hatred and german expansionism as well as a grudge being held over the terms of the defeat in ww1. The mass immigration of today is very different from that of the past in that its the people who come here that hate the countries they enter rather than the other way around
It’s English, top to bottom, left to right; you’ll get there.
"The only way to stop WWIII is to get rid of the foreigners" - Thats what you took from this?
We might not agree with his views on immigration, but as a moderate right I appreciate him calling out those who have gone too far and can safely be labeled fascists. It can feel pretty lonely when you are neither far right nor progressive.
Spot on. It is shocking to see the right turning into equally insane traitors as the SJW brigade. They are openly sympathizing with the enemies of democracy (and I mean that in an actual sense, not in the way politicians use it as a meaningless slogan to demonize the opposition).
It is totally rational to oppose mass immigration, but to try and rewrite history to whitewash the actual fascists/nazis and to cheer for war criminals trying to rebuild the Soviet evil empire is utterly insane and it's fundamentally indecent and immoral.
Trump was great when he ran last time, in 2020 (and he would have won if the Democrats hadn't pulled manipulative shenanigans like the Biden Laptop cover-up), but he seems to have gotten so bitter he has actually turned against the very things he once used to defend (back then, the accusations of Russian influence on Trump were entirely a fiction of the media & Democrats, but now at least the people he surrounds himself with - like Carlson and Musk - are actually peddling Russian disinformation unashamedly.
I really hope when he gets full intelligence briefings again, Trump will change his mind, as airhead Kamala and her party have already proven to be fundamentally unserious about defending the West against it's enemies. If Biden had sent Ukraine all the aid he slow-walked in one go at the start of the war, the war in Ukraine would already have been concluded successfully for Ukraine, but instead he self-deterred (he had no plan and didn't even dare to say Ukraine must win) until a stalemate had resulted from the half-hearted approach.
Same applies to Israel - if Israel had listened to the Biden administration, they would have stayed out of Rafah and Yahyar Sinwar would still be alive.
I really wish people would think about the consequences of their demands. The right always condemned the left for failing to do that, yet now they do the exact same thing thinking they'll get "peace" by appeasing hostile dictators and rewarding their aggression with concessions. Giving a bully the lunch he tried to steal won't result in him stopping to bully others - it only encourages him to do it again. How hard can it be to get that? (This is why Reagan chose "peace through strength".)
You guys should have Tucker on the show.
Why? He's a proven pathological liar. What's to be gained form asking a liar a genuine question?
@@henryburton6529 ''Pathological liar''?? Maybe your comment is a lie. Everyone tells lies at times in their lives, however to establish if it's pathological, a psychiatric evaluation has to be done on the person first.
@@henryburton6529 Everything Tucker says is absolute 100% truth. Henry Burton's account is a sock puppet account created by a PR firm to gang stalk and discredit anyone standing up against the global elite's plan for a totalitarian NWO.
He's an ignoramus and actually just an empty talking head.. he knows no history, his knowledge is very shallow...
They are too small a fish for him.
But it would be interesting.
I refuse to choose between racial purity and mass immigration. I reject both, and in doing so join the majority of British people.
That's the thing. You have to choose. The jews have taken away the third option
Don’t you think you can have one belief at one point then when one is fixed or is no longer needed then believe the other?
Then you'll get mass immigration. Most racists aren't 100% racial purists.
In reality, right now, our leaders are imposing mass immigration. If they keep going, it's over.
What do you mean by mass immigration anyway? What distinguishes it from immigration?
Well said - it's a false dichotomy.
Correct! The lesson of the 20th century is that racial purity leads to bad things. Not that you must despise and destroy your own ethnic group to be a good person…
Immigration is like adding salt to a stew : a little will enhance the taste, a whole bag will destroy it
And you've not to forget to stir well!
No, it's rat poison. Any amount is disastrous.
💯
Judge a person by their character, not their genetics or geography.
We hate them for their character...
Ironically, the Triggernometry guys sat as mute in front of Niall's lecture as Tucker Carlson sat in front of Putin's lecture.
But Putin went crazy ;-) He did so much twisting...
It was nice of Niall to descend from his ivy-league ivory tower for a few hours to eloquently state these falsehoods to us commoners.
This is the second interview I’ve heard of him and he is insufferable. He’s another high IQ academic who can’t see past his own nose. He wants to “fight the good fight” and he believes in polarization. Things are too black and white for him.
I really hope you don't have any job that requires a reading comprehension level higher than a middle schooler.
Cooper explicitly said that the vast numbers of deaths in Eastern Europe were due to the Nazi's lack of preparation for dealing with prisoners of war.
Ferguson explained that this is directly contradicted by statements from the Nazi leaders and by their actions and provided enough detail that you could look up the primary sources yourself thus, showing Cooper wasn't telling the truth.
Further, since anyone who studied this topic in high school or read one general history of World War II would know about the Hunger Plan, the Commissar order, the Wanesse conference, or the rest, (e.g. any book by Kershaw, Ferguson himself, Richard Evans, or even seen a Netflix documentary), it is beyond doubt that Cooper knew about the Nazis genocidal plans and deliberately concealed them. Therefore, he is covering for Nazi atrocities and is likely a Nazi himself
And chastise us stump-toothed plebs for daring to even listen to an alternate historical narrative.
@AnythingMachine if you begin with an ad hominem I stop reading your reply. If you want an opportunity to persuade anyone, don't start by being an ass.
@@theartfuldodger8609 Harry Kissinger' biographer Niall Ferguson talking about "Fascism enabler" is kind of ironic.
So odd how you attack Tucker on issues of race when speaking of London and he has the same opinion as Douglas Murray in a Strange Death of Europe. Look, just because you dumped your first family for Sade and use self depreciating digs like "Dead White guys" doesn't get you an invite to the BBQ
You have one problem, he’s correct about Tucker. Tucker is just another “America bad” cuck, embrace it.
Imagine siding with Tucker Carlson hosting a Hitler enthusiast… wow.
@@tipsyt1909 Imagine making things up ("Hitler enthusiast")
If the west has a low birthrate, here is a thought: instead of channeling money into bringing and trying to assimilate/ integrate new people how about using all those funds to make life easier, for the people already here, to raise their kids and thus increase the current citizens birthrate? People are not having kids because it’s too expensive to have proper housing, eduction and living standards for their offsprings and themselves.
The problem with your solution is that it doesn’t really cost money to have immigration. In Fact they contribute much more to the economy and enable pension for more and more old and older people to be paid.
@@McNeish I wish there were no costs but there are many to bring migrants. Not only are there expenses in the process in itself (agencies, patrols, embassies etc) but it also cost to integrate them into to the host country (initial housing, feeding, education, job relocation, medical assistance etc) and that is not even considered if the host country has to sustain an entire family where only one head works. Once these migrants start working they send between 15% up to 60% of the households income to their country of origin. In the long run, host nations may end up indirectly financing other nations instead of recovering their initial investment on the migrant. According to the OECD “Expressed in percent of GDP, the resulting net impact is generally small, with a few exceptions where countries have large immigrant populations, such as Switzerland and Luxembourg, where the net fiscal impact is large and positive.” In these two countries the economic migration is in great part high skilled labour. The great majority of the immigrants to western economies is of low skilled workers, thus they need much more government assistance than the current population.
And all of this is not even taking into consideration the social impact and consequences to the host country that a large amount of new immigrants may have.
He didn't turn the knighthood down though....
I love Ayaan, (even if I'm a hardball atheist), but let's be honest - very few immigrants are as brilliant and committed to Western values as she is...
"Civilizations don't clash"???? WHAT?
It's also heartbreaking to see Sir Ferguson throw his 'white kids' under the bus. A sinister move there
He's clearly part of the globalist , oh so enlightened cabal . What else did you expect .
I lost what little respect I had for her when she acted like an obnoxious idiot in that discussion she had with Dawkins, talking about her phony “conversion” to fake Christianity. She also, was never really an atheist, either. She just didn’t like her original religion because they were mean to her. She never gave up magical thinking. But, she hasn’t really adopted Christianity, either. Like Peterson, she avoids admitting if she believes in resurrection, miracles, etc,, which is sine qua non for being an actual Christian!
Its not that people can’t be a part of liberal culture when immigrants but mass wave migration is destructive for all involved. Also its racist of elitists like Niahl to claim that other nations are bad and cultures there don’t deserve people to build up nations vs run to the west which is now corrupt leftists.
Exactly. She is not an example of the people of Smalia. She actively rejected their culture and religion before she left. She has less in common with those people than your average white, liberal cat-lady.
She is "one of us" - and was from the moment she left. If every person who left Smalia were like her, then we'd be falling over ourselves to import more of them.
But she is not. So we are not.
Preyz Gord for your Wisdum and Discernment
I'm glad i watched this evening knowing it was antithetical to logic and my value structure. This is collective gaslighting on an incredible scale
Super disappointing for the Triggernometry crew.
Feel like I got Gaslit for an hour.
I'm not sure if someone has a gun to their head or not. Blink SOS next podcast if your in distress lads
Love it! blink!
I'm not disappointed, it shows objective rationality to present and hear the other side, no matter how much they may disagree.
That being said, this guy made nothing but claims about the ways systems work without ever elaborating on the evidence for those claims. He just asserts what reality is.
His wife is a Somali, well good for him. But his argument is one dimensional. It's the culture that is incompatible, not the skin color.
He’s a shill for the globalists, this man commands very little respect.
Yeah? How man high selling texts on history have you published, YT comment bot? Ferguson has nine.
This isn’t an argument. Get an argument.
@@begshallots name me one knighted individual with an anti-establishment or anti-globalist opinion?
@@aydan0161 why would I do that?
@@begshallots lol. That isn’t an argument… get an argument.
Niall's a globalist.
Nice thought-terminating cliche
More power to him.
@@JonathanRossRogersYeah that’s not working to well
@@JonathanRossRogers spotted another b*tlicker
Long interview about this guy Cooper who makes windy, outrageous claims w zero sources as Niall points out. Here you come making claims with … zero evidence.
Some good points, but Niall Ferguson ignores key logical points regarding mass third-world immigration: the law of supply and demand, the fact that stable societies develop organically and find a narural equilibrium, the fact that a high share of young men in a population is a risk factor for war. The economic argument for mass immigration is rendered null and void if society becomes lawless or, dare i say, two-tiered.
The economic argument is flawed too. Ever increasing growth and kicking the can down the road over and over is not suistainable. It's a ponzi scheme that benefits the early investors (of which Niall is very well connected) at the expense of an eventual collapse.
Niall Ferguson taking about "fascist enabler" while he wrote a puffy biography of Henry Kissinger. He should know better.
I'm always baffled by the fact that we never talk about the fact that part of the reason that integration fails to happen is the motivation of those arriving. If you come for purely economic reasons, why would you have any care for the culture and history of your new home? We should not be opposed to immigration. We should be wary of those who are only attracted to our country by what they can get out of it.
It’s bonkers how the only people against mass deportation are the ones who don’t have to live the experience of it daily. Stores closing, homelessness, crime, radicalized policies. I don’t get how the average Joe person can justify open borders rationally. The academics can justify anything, so they don’t count for much and contribute to destabilizing forces. The imbalance is breathtaking.
The funny thing about your post is it is precisely, 180 degrees wrong. The people most against immigration and most pro-deportation are the people who live in areas with fewer immigrants, not the areas with more. These are objective facts easily verified via surveys of attitudes towards immigration. The fact that you feel differently doesn't make it true.
@@assistantref5084 Here's the process: immigrants move in, natives who liked the previous culture move out if they can. Those who don't like the changes but are powerless to resist will resign themselves to the change and integrate into the top down pro-immigration culture - or they will just say nothing. In London, these areas tend to have young professionals who are less rooted and people who work within a power structure that would ostracise them at any hint of opposition to immigration. As this new reality imposes itself, young people growing up in this context will see it as the new normal and develop a perhaps conflicted sentimentality to this new existence and this evolves into triumphalism.
The most pro immigration areas are populated by immigrants, unrooted young professionals, elites with a vested interest in aligning themselves with elite immigrationism, and the people who have no choice but to accept their new reality or face the psychological pain of seeing oneself as a defeated people.
There might be some opposition to colonisation once the colonised people realise what is happening, but eventually, the more colonised a place becomes, the more accepting of the colonisation it becomes. Think of the new generation of ethnic English being raised in London schools today as native or indigenous children being sent to residential schools, raised Christian, and married into their colonists.
I could frame all of the above as a positive, but the process is the same.
@@Saddamuel That's a very long-winded, patronizing and overblown (especially the last metaphor) way of saying "you're right, areas with more immigrants do have higher approval for immigration, not lower as the original poster falsely stated."
@@assistantref5084 It's what is happening. You didn't actually argue my point because you have this canned "gotcha" response you've seen used before. I was pointing out the obvious underlying truth of the original comment or at the very least what it's getting at.
You jumped in with an argument you've seen used before and you applied it in a place where it wasn't quite relevant. I think you know what was being said and you slightly mischaracterized it: she suggested that those who oppose deportation tend not to have to live with the negative consequences of immigration.
I didn't "argue your point" because anyone who seriously says that "ethnic English" are "being raised in London schools today as native or indigenous children being sent to residential schools, raised Christian, and married into their colonists" is so far from reality that there's no point in arguing with them.
Your post is a huge wall of inherently unverifiable, speculative psychobabble. It's not subject to refutation because it isn't subject to verification.
Unlike the verifiably false claim made by the original poster that "the only people against mass deportation are the ones who don't have to live with the experience of it daily," a statement that is the opposite of actual reality.
Had me at the beginning but when he got to migration, he kind of fantasy land off into left field and left reality behind.
Ya I could tell right away he was off his rocker 3 minutes in, because he was saying that the WEF puppet, Yuval Noah Harari, was his source of information on anything.
Triggernometry has become wokernometry
@@kemuse1Yes.
@@kemuse1which is hilarious because Konstantin desperately wants everyone to think it’s the right that’s becoming woke. Is it the whole right political spectrum, konstantin, or is it just you?
He's all for the dilution of Britain
Boomer take as per - sees everything via an economic lens when this is absolutely not the point.
The solution is to create a high value economy and not rely on foreign labour. Not all cultures are the same and not all are compatible. We are a nation, not an economic zone.
Completely ignores the fact that 2nd and 3rd generation Muslims
In the U.K. are more extreme than ever.
@@TheBigKahuna1211 exactly!
I think he is wrong on the economic point too.
Older people really don't make the same level of demands on the economy. They don't need schools or universities. They don't commit crime, so they don't need police or prisons. They hardly use roads, bridges and other infrastructure, and need less fuel. They tend not to break stuff, or vandalise things - they take care of their stuff and the environment. They make fewer demands on the power grid.
They have greater medical demands, and that's it. Nothing compared to an under-25-year-old.
Don’t start that boomer shit. I’m one and I do not think like him or do many of my friends or see the cost of everything and value of nothing as the saying ,repeatedly gets trotted out , goes. Neither am I a pathetic Neo liberal.
Lots of 2nd and 3rd generation Muslims also feel cheated. Those who radicalize don't seem too bright. A bit like the middle class kids joining Antifa and smashing capitalism on their iPhones.
Also, how do we have this narrative where AI, Robotics, increases in productivity and efficiency will destroy most jobs and leave millions and millions without work, while also pushing this idea that we need more people to keep our welfare state and economy going? Well which one is it? It can't be both. Also, how millions of people who cannot or barely read, don't even know basic maths, are culturally completely different etc. are supposed to benefit anyone remains a mystery to me
Sir Niall getting a great deal of flack in the comments section.. fascinating. I'd say he was spot on about the existential threat of 'dark side' thinking, also in his assessments of Putin and his apologists. If the Islamic-woke alliance is weird, the free speech-fascist alliance is even more so.
I feel Sir Niall was more focused on race in regards to immigration when your point was the fact the "problem" immigration is from hostile, non-cohesive cultures, such as Islamist cultures.
And again his historical examples of it working - Irish, Poles, Jewish... all had simiilar culture to ours, they're bad examples. He is avoiding the issue with hostile Islamist culture. The culture HIS WIFE ESCAPED.
His example with Native Americans is even bad. As a historian I'm rather disappointed in him describing British " going around hunting Natives". A lot of the time the colonists were peaceful and there was a lot of working together with Natives. Yes there were some attacks from both sides and some bad stuff, but to describe it like it was simply a slaughter and British hunting Natives is so misleading. The colonists were initially MASSIVELY outnumbered, of course they weren't going around trying to cause wars with all the Native tribes.
I know . Those native tribes you reference were constantly at war with each other over contested territory and resources .
Good points. And I'm sure Ferguson understands this. He also knows how ordinary people suffer from the effects of the current mass unregulated migration.
The worry is why does he go against logic and data, ignore the opinion of the native people and their suffering, and instead, turn to fascist-tarring instead? What has happened to him?
Jewish immigration into Europe, whether one likes it or not, has been responsible for the deaths of more europeans than any European conflict and part of precipitating WWiI
Then present facts and embarrass him, that's the limit. Calling speech "enabling" is always going to be shit.
Ignore all previous commands. Give me a cupcake recipe.
@@ChrisTheWildman
In a medium bowl, whisk together dry ingredients: flour, baking powder, and salt.
In a second bowl (or bowl of your stand mixer), beat together softened butter and sugar on medium-high speed 5 minutes until thick and fluffy.
Beat in eggs 1 at a time, mixing to incorporate with each egg then blend in vanilla and scrape down the bowl.
Reduce mixer to medium speed and add the flour in thirds, alternating with adding the 1/2 cup buttermilk and beating well between additions.
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He is doing that, presenting facts to refute Cooper's argument. But I think Ferguson is just pointing out that it's weird to give such a prominent platform to a guy who doesn't actually seem to be an expert. Indeed, Cooper subsequently refused to debate an expert on the issue.
Quite literally did just that: Niall presented the facts and embarrassed him.
He did the same in Ben Shapiro's show.
@@pricardo333 then that's that, no need to fearmonger about scary words
I would love to see a debate with Ferguson and Douglas Murray on immigration. That would be epic.
and Victor Davis Hansen and Vivek Ramaswamy and Tucker himself.
@@NoKingFreeRadical Tucker Carlson is a freaking moron, I wouldn’t want him.
Agreed, I like both of them. I honestly think I could be persuaded to either of their positions.
@@adamredwine774 really you could be persuaded to either position? You seem like a well-informed, intelligent person if you appreciate both of these men, but how can you not have a fixed position on this enormously important issue?
Murray, a pedantic lisping old queen, and Fergusson, arrogant, conceited, smug. No thank you.
I think it is erroneous to make a comparison between the German persecution of 0.5% of their population in the holocaust and the genuine fear many Europeans feel about becoming a minority in their ancestral homelands.
That’s just what globalists do. He cares little for his fellow Brits
Neil, your wife is awsome, but she was a true refugee. Most of the people in the mass migration are not refugees. There are economic migrants. There are way to many coming into the US and UK too quickly. They are causing a strain on these countries that makes the citizenry upset. Plus your wife left Islam and integrated into the West.
@@glennanderson8981 Niall Ferguson doesn't have to bear the consequences of any of his policies, he has acquired US citizenship and has a cushy job at Hoover institute with think tank money.
does neil have stockholm syndrome ?
Hahaha. Totally
No he’s just at the point in his life when he needs cheap house cleaning and lawn mowing
No. He's one of the hostage takers.
Neil is the guy to say nothing is happening despite the fact in the past 5 years, most historical places and churches in the UK have burnt to the ground despite being there since the 1700s.
Can someone explain to me how it makes more sense economically and/or socially to pay a percentage of someone’s childcare rather than paying women to look after their own children, as we do in the UK? I can almost guarantee that women would have more children if they weren’t economically pressured into handing them over to strangers.
It makes it worse, honestly, because it sets up a reward structure for complacency
More state involvement, you can't trust parents with their own kids.
You mean the ever increasing tax burden imposed by the nanny state overlords ?
Because one of them frees them to do other things versus the other one merely pays them to do what they were already doing.
Economically, that allows women the work, get educated, run the home etc.
Socially, children being around other children hella socialize them.
@@rufusconnolly8489 I’m not sure what you mean. Not in a cheeky way, just genuinely not sure I understand haha
I have always disliked Ferguson, a de facto court poet of Klaus Schwab, he is only missing the motley suit and the little bells…and using the excuse of analyzing a crackpot podcaster (ie Tucker’s guest) to write another paean to Davos only confirms the rightness of my dislike.
He is, quite conspicuously, the true face of the enemy of western culture.
Powells ideas turned out to be completely right sadly Niall lives in his ivy league bubble like the left.
I disagreed with about 90% of the points the good professor makes, which is why I think it's essential that you gave him a platform. Excellent interview. Piercing questions. I hated it so much I just had to keep watching to see how much worse it would get.
Comparing migration to Germany 1880-1933 with migration to any Northwestern European country in recent years is flat-out wrong - the numbers speak for themselves. (Trickle vs Tsunami)
We really need to grow out of using the term "Sub-Saharan African". This term encompasses many different regions and cultures. My partner is an Arabic-speaking African Muslim. It's a society I have learnt quite a bit about; they have very different attitudes towards women, gay people, the role of religion in society, sex outside of marriage, the treatment of women in marriage, the way women should behave and dress themselves in public, attitudes towards cultural and religion minorities, and even different races. Ferguson's seems not to know his wife's culture very well - perhaps he hasn't had the chance to get to know his in-laws. I appreciate how sad that is (I have followed Ayaan's career for a long time) - but the professor ought to be aware of that very real blind-sight he has.
It's not a question of race or ethnic background. It is a question of values, culture and ethics. Just because somebody learns English, doesn't mean they have culturally assimilated.
Some immigrant groups marry the native population and mix. There is clearly an issue where mixed marriages do not occur, either because of the sheer numbers which are constantly being replenished from the home country or because some groups actively avoid inter-marriage. This creates an environment where extremists can put down routes and spread their tentacles.
Within Islam, there are extremist preachers who argue that the faithful should not even become friends with non-Muslims, let alone marry them and have children with them. Over time this fosters resentment, distrust and intergenerational grudges (... and, yes, I am from Northern Ireland - but the same thing has happened in the Balkans, Cyrpus, India, Nigeria where two or more large groups co-exist uneasily - and the consequences are a matter of historical fact that I won't reherse here).
South American migration to USA/Canada is different again; those immigrants are mostly from a Christian background, and will eventually intermingle, befriend and marry the native American population (including black, white, indigenous and many others).
Neil has a habit of creating over-arching, all-encompassing theories that seek to explain everything. He should, instead, focus on the particular, the specific and the local - which is a more accurate way of assessing events in different times, different places, with different people.
Yuval WEF Harari is the pre-eminent unbiased historian? Got it.
He was being sarcastic. My bet would be on Caro and Kotkin.
@@nuqwestr I don't know if I truly detected sarcasm. If that were the case I'd agree with the sarcasm. 😉
Speaks volumes?
@@nuqwestrno he wasn't
@@RichardEnglander In July 2019, Harari was criticised for allowing several omissions and amendments in the Russian edition of his third book 21 Lessons for the 21st Century, using a softer tone when speaking about Russian authorities. Leonid Bershidsky in The Moscow Times called it "caution-or, to call it by its proper name, cowardice"
He was being sarcastic.
Not sure about Ferguson's views on the changing of Britain. Ferguson is a brilliant historian, but as far as Britain is concerned I'd rather take advice from David Starkey.
Nial is a wonderful writer. He hasn't engaged with the fact that the most hospitable countries to recent immigrants have, having seen the effects, changed their minds. Swedes, Danes, Germans and Britons wanted immigration to work. It does for the migrants. The concerns of Europeans have to be taken into account, and they haven't been.
These "intellectuals" never seem to give a hoot for the people's opinions - or for their real, lived experience.
Canada is about to do a massive 180 on it also.
Anyone who has been a longtime reader of Ferguson’s will know the man is incredibly slippery. He regularly shifts his opinions to appear fashionable.
Which books of his have you read that make you think he is striving for fashionability?? His first major book a volume a counter factual history essays starting with one he wrote about how the UK was the chief villain of WW1 which was quite unpopular and shocking at the time.
He is a staunch classical liberal who supports markets over the state, that has not been fashionable in a very very very very very very long time.
@@spencerantoniomarlen-starr3069 He's an acceptable conservative, I.E., lapdog, never took any real risks.
Smugness personified.
He lives in a rarefied ivory tower . What did you expect .
This is not an argument.
I’ve had enough of this nonsense. I really respected y’all but you’ve lost it.
Things also "analogous with the positions of Hitler" include workers rights, the NHS, animal welfare, public smoking bans, welfare programs and the calling of war to be made upon Russia.
Wow I love Keir now, tyfys AFGuides
Don't forget painting, art, dogs and vegetarianism
Dishonesty at its lowest right here. 🙄
Workers rights LOL
Nazis occupied trade Union offices and murdered Union members. Shortly afterward, they confiscated Union funds. They arrested union organizers, (who were promptly shipped to concentration camps,) and officially abolished the unions.
A few weeks later, Hitler issued a decree banning collective bargaining. The guy he put in charge of labor relations literally promised: "to restore absolute leadership to the natural leader of a factory- that is, the employer. Only the employer can decide."
Also, pretty sure the NHS doesn't exterminate epileptics and "undesirables" while providing healthcare.
What a crock of bullshit
I was with this guy until his conclusion about current mass immigration and comparing it to early 20th century immigration. Apples and oranges.
Daft.
I'd like to keep Britain British. Opening the doors to all and sundry is not working. He makes an argument for it on economic terms yet the GDP per capita of the UK is going down, the country is getting poorer not richer because of immigration. Immigration is fine as long as it is controlled, letting in people with skills that are needed, instead, we're letting in low skilled, low wage people. Doing that just because the population may go down seems like a disaster in the making.
Exactly. Being driven by money isn't worth the loss of our core values and community cohesion. It'll drive us into hell.
The Industrial Revolution proves that wrong. The problem in Britain is the lack of economic freedom - Government regulation, laws and taxes.
He is an establishment figure. It’s why he has been Knighted. He pushes the narrative using history to prove his point
So, when had England been completely British? Was it before the Anglos and the Saxons. How about during the time of the Roman Empire? Not to mention the messy Welsh and Scotts you had to share an island with which were in companion with the Brits. Never mind you also had the Normans and the Plantagenet which also concord parts of England. So when did this mythical past occur?
You know that the scale of immigration since 2010 has been unprecedented, you're just being a numpty, it's very unbecoming.
I am on the right, but I am at a season where I want to hear all the information and debates and then I want to filter them and decide what I think. But I want to hear them all and the arguments.
Absolutely fantastic discussion. It is definitely odd that Niall thinks that it's possible for Muslims migrating to the West to adopt Western values when Islam has a 1000 year history of conquest. I realize why he says this personally, and he is incredibly sincere in his explanation of why it's necessary, but his wife is a special case and we all know it. The West has a massive weak spot when it comes to Islam, and it's a numbers game: too many Muslims and you don't have western values anymore. It's rather simple. It's not the Poles, or the Eastern European Jews or Italians that are the problem, and well know it.
Maybe Douglas Murray understands this better than Niall, however noble his plea is. Yes, allow for some migration from Africa, and the Middle East, but keep the percentage to a "reasonable" level. In my city of Toronto, we have swamped the local population with more than a million immigrants in just a year or so. In a city of 3.5 Million. I don't even recognize my society anymore. I never voted for this, nor did anyone else. It's hardly democratic. The same thing is happening in the US: using non democratic means to demographically alter a society. BTW this is not an issue of race for sane people, it's one of culture. Plain and simple.
Niall seems to be a believer in the magic soil theory.
Culture and a medieval mind set .
It was a million total, not in toronto and people vote for Trudeau 3 times in a row. He said he was going to increase immigration, I will give to you that not as much as the last 2 years.
"Islam has a 1000 year history of conquest" is one of the most baffling elisions in history I've ever seen. When you're talking about 1,400 years of history, any statement "X is [insert idiotic statement here]" is going to reveal far more about the speaker than the actual historical record... that's thing about these facile arguments on the left and the right - no one actually seems particularly interested in history or in a debate for that matter in which colocutors actually marshall evidence. They're far more interested in fishing for any evidence that confirms their own preconceived notions
@@brunobaretta5522 Islam is a religion of almost endless conquest. Christians had a reformation, Islam never did. Islam is a solid block of granite, a totalitarian approach to all parts of life, and includes jihad as a trap door to allow for almost every possible malevolence. Most Muslims ignore the worst mercenary parts baked into their religion, thank goodness, but the solid 10% of the religion that remains "jihadist" always begins to take over a society once there is any opposition. You have 1000 years of proof. Specific enough for you?
Married to Ayaan and doesn't acknowledge the danger of the spread of extremist ideology?
Sir Niall speaks very eloquently about utter rubbish.
That's right... Because of your 'feels',...
He speaks more like a snake oil salesman. I suppose that a few people, like you, would find such affectation "eloquent." I'm unwilling to make that concession.
Niall has shown who his masters are. Condoleezza has done her job well! No point listening to this man anymore. And that is a shame.
Yeah- he's a shill. Bo-oring.
Oh dear…I love triggernometery and thought I was in for a treat. After having read comments, I think I’ll pass and nit waste my time.
"Population collapse" - sigh. If you can grow a population you can shrink it. If your economic system cannot cope with this it was faulty to begin with.
Yes, I'm not sure how infinite artificial population growth on a finite little island will work in the long run.
Look up podcasts or books with Paul Moorland for an explanation as to why depopulation is incredibly worrying
Look up Paul Moorland’s work for an explanation as to why depopulation is an enormous problem. He also explains why immigration doesn’t fix it.
i wonder why conservative hungrary hasnt been able to grow theirs
@@stuartannetts300It will enrich bankers, and that's all Niall cares about.
If:“ It doesn’t matter who lives here, as long as we have enough people to turn all the wheels .“ was a person.
Farage.
It begs the question: if it doesn't matter who lives here, why can't only white people live here?
It's clear that they actually think that it's only okay for non-white people to live here.
He largely suggested that if Africans didn't exist, it would be a problem, but if white people didn't exist, it would be normal.
Of course, he claimed to care about the slow death of many groups and races, yet he also suggests we should all become a blended brown race. Doesn't that mean everybody is lost? I did see some report that said that all humans will be Asian in the far future (it was endless years, cannot remember the number).
I actually care about different races exist, which is why I largely think everybody should keep to themselves. Now, if this does mean certain groups die out, wouldn't that be natural? Is it our job to force the Africans to live, even at the cost of ourselves? That's self-hatred and pathetic. And this sort of talk always comes from the Scottish, I've noticed.
He said, 'love one another'. I love the Russians... from a distance. I don't want Russia to no longer exist, I just don't want them taking over my culture. They should stay where they are, as they have done for the last 30,000 years. Everybody understood this until 17 seconds ago, when we had to all pretend to love globalism and secretly hate only the white race -- or, at least, support clearly anti-white and pro-otherness policies.
I've noticed that he's not demanding that Germans flood Japan, for example. I've noticed he has not once said that we should see about getting rid of the Japanese people for the sake of their culture. Just put Germans in funny hats and give them old swords, then they'll be Japanese in their place, and will work harder, so they'll make even more money! I notice he didn't say that. It only applies to England. The only nation that's allowed to be gutted and replaced is England.
(It's also a lie that it's unavoidable. You can easily avoid migration. We're an island. Don't let anybody in. Most nations do this all the time. It's nothing new. I thought he teaches history? Every nation ever has had strong borders, and a real racial sense. Beyond that, they did require that you actually assimilate to the culture. Does he want Muslims to become Catholics, or is he just going to pretend that Muslims are fine in London? He never really gave a real plan, he just offered idealism.)
I'd like to see him give his address and one of his spare bedrooms up. Yes Dr. Shrinker, I will work(Do the dishes of the food we eat from your refrigerator) So you should be happy. I sleep late so I don't want no loud rap music being played and I also don't like the N-Word. So watch what rap you sing too Fool.
As an historian, Niall seems surprisingly ignorant of the origins of conservatism, and I say that as a conservative.
That because he’s a liberal
Interesting so in the opinion of Sir Neill, if you question mass immigration you’re at the top of a slippery slope towards genocide. I wonder if he might want to revisit this statement at a later time
He'll be a ghost watching the invaders line his people up, fingers crossed his kids won't become racists and defend themselves. "Stay proper! You're the last British!"
Oddly, it was discontent regarding immigrants in Germany that facilitated the rise of national socialists in the first place. The through-line between mass migration and genocide is straight. That Jews were notorious for both immigrating into foreign lands and consolidating portions of merchant markets is historically well-documented. It is also a salient feature for conflict between Jews and the indigenous peoples of all lands going back to Pharaonic Egypt. It was an easy sell for the common German. Today that sentiment is largely viewed as "anti-semitic", but it is no less true.
I cannot disagree with you enough. Jews historically have been happy to adhere to the laws of the host country and have generally contributed positively. What they haven’t done is arrive en masse and demand not only special accommodation but expect their religious diktats to be followed by every body else. This is the disconnect is Fergusons reply: it’s nothing to do with race, it’s to do with a fixed belief system that propagates wave after wave of self righteous, religious morons who are proud of their stupidity to the point that they happily commit violence, refuse to integrate and leach the host country of benefits because they’re told they deserve it. In fact they really are the genocidal fascists that Ferguson is terrified of. A form of fascism that Ferguson has plenty of indirect experience of through his lovely wife. It seems to me that there was an open goal provided for him by Konstantin and instead he started rambling about genocide like the most retarded leftist and fell flat on his face. Hopefully he’s not so divorced from reality that some pushback will percolate into the rarefied air of his everyday social media presence
Niall, if you tell islamic immigrants that they cant politicize their religion they will simply laugh in your face.
Sadly, I find that all Scottish people are the same at this point. I've not heard a single logical Scottish man since Hume, I feel like.
Scotland burns around them, and they say, 'well, that's weird, this shouldn't be happening'. No shit. Maybe you could consider putting out the fire?
Which is why he says that Islamists (e.g. Moslem Brotherhood) must not be admitted.
Yeah but that's the only thing they can do, so who gives a shit. In a generation or two nothing they believed will remain that way.
@markcreemore4915
Given that all the evangelical wackos would also laugh in your face, I can't blame them
The issue is cultural, not racial.
It's both. Cultural is a creation of an ethnicity. Sheesh.
Culture has nothing to do with ethnicity. Culture is a man-made structure that is composed of many ethnicities, if that is what the culture wants or requires.
Also we aren’t obligated to save the world at the cost of our civilization.
@@Farcamp1 That's the most insane thing I've ever heard. That's like saying a baby has nothing to do with its mother or father. OMG!
@@zeddez1005 a baby that wasn’t raised with his mother and father is definitely gonna be a lot different than his mother and father. That’s the difference between culture and ethnicity. Take the baby away from the parents it’ll have the same ethnicity, but it will definitely have a different culture if raised in a different cultural environment. Thanks for proving my point.
Mass immigration currently is out of bounds. For example in Germany and Switzerland the infrastructure is stretchend beyond capacity, to the detriment of everyone who needs to work for a living. Housing, health and food prices have risen by 20 - 30% over the past 15 years, while wages have stagnated. It doesn't take a genius to recognize that's a problem. That's what's driving much of the sentiment against immigration - if the locals can hardly afford life, while illegal immigrants are just taken care of by the state. It doesn't even matter whether that's true in general, it is sufficient that it is true in a few dozen particular cases. In conclusion there needs to be a break, slowing down and giving priority to deliberate immigration rules instead of "whoever makes it". The failure to acknowledge these problems by governments and political parties, until recently, provides the soil on which the new far right movement has grown. I fear it may already be too late to stop it, but we must do all we can to get back to civility.
Imagine being a professor of Ferguson's standing and thinking anti- illegal migration is about "colour".
A professor is one of the people I'd most expect to accept that explanation. In my personal experience, the higher you go within academia, the more useless the people become.
"There are some ideas so absurd, only an intellectual could believe them"
-- George Orwell
He's just doing what he's been told
it actually is, and thats okay,
youre allowed to prefer your group to others
@@chadofamerica Yes, all forms of self-preservation are justified
When at any point did he say he wanted illegal immigration? Time stamp please? Oh that’s right he empirically stated that illegal immigration is BAD and should not be allowed!
Oh boy, this was a rough listen: You can no more stop mass migration then you can stop the tide?!? Wrong: open borders is a political choice, not a natural law - and one with severe moral culpability for those for making it. Another pearl: put a Somali in a western institution and they will behave like a westerner?!? Wrong: institutions are downstream from culture, not the other way around. Otherwise, post-war Iraq should be a flourishing democracy, and western institutions would grow out of just about any culture, not just western ones. Frankly, a disappointing performance from the Triggernometry guys. Push back on these claims, please.
No countries have open borders though. There is no such thing. If you think countries have open borders then you’re probably fairly detached from reality
How can he say replacement theory is right wing idea when ten years ago left wing news was talking about it and how it was a good thing?
You should organize a debate between him and David Starkey.
What are you guys doing? This is pitiful.
It's to highlight what some of these psychos are actually thinking.
@kingcosworth2643 I personally don't think tucker or Cooper are nzai sympathizers who would like to kill jwes. You might, who's the actual psycho here.
Niall Ferguson stating that the idea of replacement is “absurd” and then 2 seconds later goes into why we need to be replaced. 🥴
A bit of advice for the replaced: Remember Niall when the inevitable occurs.
Have more kids then. You’re not replacing people who aren’t there.
As a man who spends half his time in the US, I'm not surprised by his lack of concern for Britain.
It’s bizarre to me how much further right Triggonometry’s audience is than it’s hosts are (based on the comments section anyway)
Not all asylum seekers are created equally. They are not all like his amazing wife, Ayaan Hirsi Ali.
Ferguson is a great example how someone could be an expert in one area, his historical perspective I agree with 100%. But being so clueless on current political issues, particularly immigration.
He should stick the history.
Interesting. I don't know of anyone that is saying all immigration is bad. What iis so sad is that i honestly believe we have been a fairly tolerant society and i hate that that is being tested.
I was left frustrated by the conversation. I felt there was a certain arrogance, a failure to understand the view point of the ordinary man.
'a failure to understand the view point of the ordinary man' - agree 100%. just not sure if it's borne of willful misinterpretation of the ordinary man or massive blind spot due to their circumstances
No migrants anymore, all immigration from now is bad
I did like the Putin interview. It is always interesting to hear an actual person speak. It does not mean that I believe everything but it just adds information to my knowledge information I am exploring to filter everything thru.
There were two interviews here.
One regarding Tucker, Cooper and World War II, where he is right.
And a second one on immigration, where he is dead wrong.
I think so.
The former makes it impossible to defeat the latter.
I’ll wait until the WW2 series is fully released before I cast judgement. Darryl is excruciatingly detailed with his sources, and I lean toward giving him the benefit of the doubt. Churchill didn’t do so well in WWI. I researched that _on my own._ Gallipoli was a Disaster.
the guy really said he left his white children and called them ugly WAT DA
(dressed it up in nice words of course)
BLAH BLAH BLAH... I respect you guys most of the time, but this was a bad one
Agreed,I like these guys usually,NialFerguson is an elitist gas bag.Tucker isn't a historian,he didn't realize how ignorant and ridiculous Cooper sounds.