Cold, COLD Start - OBS Powerstroke 7.3 at 8*F
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ย. 2024
- I don't understand why we all like these videos, but I will admit that I do enjoy them. It was cold out and I needed the truck, so I thought I would video a cold start at about 8 degrees (F).
I personally like these cold starts because it’s satisfying to see it start up when it doesn’t want to
Exactly!!
Iam glad at least you know how the glow plugs work in these and don’t cycle the key a million times.
Rip starter 😂
john smith ikr
I’m watching this cause my dad told me to cycle the key and I said they glow plugs actually stay on for a while and he argued with me
I didn’t know that. We learn something new everyday
In think it is only the 7.3 idi's you have to do a key on and key off during a cold start
Finally, someone who understands the glow plug system. 🤝
we all like them bc it makes us feel better that our truck isnt the only one starting like this. at least thats how i felt this morning after watching and starting mine at 10* it was a little more grumpy than yours even...
Hah! That could be it!
Amen to that
2:23 is when he starts cranking in case anyone is interested. Great video sir, love the 7.3 and all its glorious behemoth sounds
Thank you, sir!
I’m not sure why others like cold starts but I like them for a few reasons one is the sound that the engine makes when they go plus it’s a good way to see strong the engine in a way. One thing I have learned with diesel, they don’t give up until they just can’t go anymore.
If it’s squeakin, that means it’s running. Glass half full.
Never heard of an electric fuel pump on an old body style truck. But you are one of the very few that know how the glow plugs work on these trucks. When it starts fireing I don't let off on the starter until it's running on it's own. Works every time.
Yeah, this truck has upgraded (larger) injectors so it requires more fuel than the stock, mechanical pump can supply which makes it necessary to upgrade the fuel system. It's running a stock Super Duty Bosch pump now.
I learned this long time ago back in the eighties when a diesel has a push and pull lever to turn it off it don't need electric fuel pump but if it don't have a push and pull lever to turn it off it has to have electric fuel pump to turn off the fuel to turn it off
Man you brought back some memories. Reminds me of going to plow out the neighborhood with my dad at around 4:00 in the morning. Good times.
Glad it brought back what are (hopefully) some good memories for you!
@@diymechanictv1233 yes, very good memories, the diesel exaust out of his truck always had a distinct smell. Probably was kerosene if I'm being honest lol
When you laughed right before you said "She's not happy", I swear I thought Ernest was doing this video lol
Hah! Now that's funny....KnowwhatImean?
When he said “ you ready “ I responded 😭🤣
I'm a simple man I see a cold start I smash like
Commonrail is always a better in cold climates. Although I live in Tucson and love those 7.3l powerstrokes around here, especially the ones with a stick shift.
Well I certainly learned something new today: I don’t have to cycle the key a bajillion times on my 97
Nope. Just "let 'er glow..."
@@diymechanictv1233 my 96 is the same but do have a glow plug or two not fully going so mine little rougher to get going on cold mornings
These videos make me glad I live in the Nevada desert. 27° is about the coldest it gets, and usually it's above freezing in the winter. I never use ether
This makes me miss my obs 7.3 in mine the glowplugs were wired to a manual switch which made the starting alittle easier but damn seeing one of these old beasts makes me want to sell my 6.0
These are some good 'ol trucks. Thanks for watching!
Love your opening statement….
…just asking myself the same question as I cycle through several of these.
It doesn't make much sense does it? But I can't look away when I see one!
Thanks for watching.
I love these diesel but after watching a ton of videos , for a lot of cold starts definitely should get a block heater. Would save the rods and block a lot of struggle and crazy expansion. Engines breathe!! Expand and contract, warm up and when finished warm down ,, like a dozer. Keep that engine tight and sealed and strong. Should be no hesitation when cutting off should just be silent , that's how u know how well an engine is sealed. Better seal equals better , thorough power. Rock on and stay safe friends 🤙
I missed the train on the ReBilld fuel system, and you know how worn my motor is (with almost double the miles) but its never left me sit, we were in the teens this last week and it started like a champ. Didnt like it but it went. Truck looking good as always! Rock on man!
Thanks, Thomas. I'm glad to hear your truck is doing well. These are some good 'ol trucks, for sure.
She may not be happy yet she is alive and as beautiful as they come
My stepdad had one dualy, 4 door, big bed, and 5 speed stick. everytime he started it to go to work in the morning. I would be at the bus stop at the corner. I could hear the start up like yours 3 or 4 times he cranked it and finally after 4 times of starting it and lots smoke, it finally started and the smoke was twice the size on duel exhaust. Sadly he got rid of it due to the cost of a turbo rebuild
Hopefully, that's a pleasant memory for you! These old 7.3s definitely have a unique sound. Once you get to know one, you'll recognize every one within earshot (which is about a mile - they're so noisy!).
oh wow. i just stumbled upon this and this makes me feel a lot better about my 97 with 330k on it. it starts actually much better than this yet i was still panicking that the engine was shot. I usually plug it in to alleviate hard starts. When I plug it in overnight and start it the next day, it's warm enough that I get heat 3 minutes after running it and I can practically start it, let it run while I scrape the windows, and drive away. if it's not plugged in, I have to let it high idle for upwards of 5 minutes before it stops clattering and even wants to get above 10mph.I suppose I have low compression too because you can hear how the starter turns over and how quickly it does for each cylinder, haha!
my truck is starting to rust on the cab corners and I'm afraid I'm gonna need to get some bodywork done to it, but god I love this truck. for 3800 bucks it was a great find. 97 ECLB 5 speed 4x4, everything I wanted!
Sounds like a great truck! Thanks for watching.
I love cold start vids some how! Always watch them to the end. Tnx for filming. Stay warm!
Thank you!
That was a really good cold start it wasn’t very happy I love cold start videos
The beginning is a huge truth
Sounds great. I love me some squeakin.
Hah! Good luck with those suckers.. most of them need several injectors shimmed, works like magic and easy enough to do
If it runs perfect when warm it's a perfect candidate for shims on the post idi trucks.. idi is a whole other animal I know nothing about
Personally i like it because I live in Florida and ive owned my TDI for 2 years and it hasnt gotten cold out for more than like 1 month of me owning it, so ive barely ever gotten to have to use my glow plugs and wait for them to warm up, and ive never gotten to see the light stay on for longer than like .5 seconds lol
That engine needs some love. Regardless of the cold start she sound a bit sad and neglected and is begging for your loving affection. Lol
Your an idiot I think dude knows his motor is tired
nice DIY!!! ours was pissed @-15f hope the day is going good
Thanks for checking out the video! I bet too, at - 15F that's COLD! I saw that here one morning last week as well, but I wasn't driving the 7.3 that day. Even the gas Jeep wasn't too happy...
hope it warms up for us both soon ;-)
When ignition is turned on glow plugs light up and heat fuel for combustion when you hear relay click off for plugs your ready to start .If it doesn't start repeat process .Turn on ignition wait to hear click from relay and start .Good luck 7.3 Power Stroke turbo.
I'm sorry, but that's not correct on the Powerstroke trucks. That may be how the IDI trucks worked , but on the Powerstroke trucks the glow plugs can run for up to 2 minutes even after the engine starts. Generally, unless it's really cold out you can wait for the "Wait to Start" light to go out, give it 5-10 seconds, then fire it up. Then the glow plugs continue to run (based on the engine oil temperature) until the PCM decides it wants to switch them off. I did a recent video on the system operation and testing if you want to check it out.
Your batteries are better than mine. Jist replaced my glow plugs and rebuilt the injectors, I use my block heater way less now.
97 f250 7.3l 580,000 ish miles.
Nice! Thays a bunch of miles! Congratulations.
Got a 95 f350 dually crew cab long bed with the 7.3 and it has 70,000 miles on it
Wow, good for you! It's kind of a unicorn to find one with less than 100k miles on it! Thanks for watching the channel!
I used to put a torpedo heater nearby when we had power strokes at my old job.
It doesn't take a lot to help!
Your battery is the real hero here
Right!?
My battery would never allow that much starts haha
COLTON_CJF my battery would be night night. Throw her on the charger and see her tomorrow, I don’t have anything bigger to jump her with 😭😭
Lmao my 2 are fresh ish and I don't think they would lmao
So satisfying...
Get yourself a beautiful denso high torque starter for the 7.3. youll be happy you did
Yes sir. Had one of those on my last truck. Nice upgrade, for sure. When the starter on this one dies, that's definitely what it will be getting.
My old 95 is addicted to ether on cold days
get a gear reduction starter, they run about 100$ and fit on the 7.3 its cranks super fast and the motor turns on super quick
I saw a video of 6.0 or a 6.4 starter on a 7.3, all you do is change the nosecone.
@@f-j-Services yeah you can do that too
@@johndowe7003 My stock one on my 96 with 123k now cranks super fast, even with just 1 autocraft gold @ 800 cca or 1000 ca, I had some glowplug/start issues a while back for a short time, it was as if the glowplugs would simply not work. The voltage would drop, so it was drawin powa, but it just would not start, and then i would try again and again, boom, started like it was hot.
@@f-j-Services hmm weird, i run the napa commercial batteries on mine i think theyre like 980cca theyre good cost for the money, i payed like 130$ for mine
@@johndowe7003 Oh wow, I remember the autocrafts being expensive.
You mentioned the truck having only 222k on it and compression issues... do you happen to know where the numbers are sitting for each cylinder... just curious.
Hi Ray, I haven't done a compresion test on my truck since January of 2014, but when I did , most of the cylinders were in the range of 320 psi, with a low one at 295 psi. The full range was 295-325 psi. It was disheartening to see such low numbers for the truck having so few miles, but knowing the condition that the truck was in when I got it, I don't find it hard to believe that it was heavily dusted and poorly maintained. I got it cheap, it was exactly what I wanted, and it was rust free, so I can deal with the rest. Life has gotten busy and the engine hasn't been addressed to date, but I am working on a solution now!
Different compression gauges can be off quite a bit
Typical powerstroke
I’m kinda curious what fuel pump your hearing? Unless you’ve converted it to an electric pump the only fuel pump it has is mechanical.
Truck has been converted to e-fuel using the pump from a SD pickup and NAPA filter bases. This kit is something that a friend of mine used to put together.
Fuck she’s mad. Love the 7.3
Glad to see a new video from you.
Thanks, man. More soon to come! Big things in the works...
@@diymechanictv1233 Awesome. I grow up around these 7.3 obs trucks. Watching you brings back good memories of helping my dad work on them. Hope that you know what you do is appreciated.
5:05 Blue origin space craft in the background...
I love cold starts, I've got one on here of my 96 7.3 starting at -6F.
Those stock air cleaner housings are a piss poor design and ruin these engines,
I've got a 2000 now that has almost half a million miles and runs real good despite even eating a glow plug tip.
Def like that xploder overhead.
Corn binder!! Power
FORD!!
when she fired, I thought it will rip apart the whole truck
ahhh the best fucking engine ford will never make again 😞 rip ole 7.3 ❤️
Exactly. Never again will they make one that is this reliable and can actually be worked on by the common man.
sounds like pop corn
Love it.
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching!
What brand batteries are you running? Those are some strong batteries
I run Deka batteries in my truck and I've been pleased with them so far.
I have a 1996 with a 1997 motor with those same piller gauges was that a factory option
No, the factory didn't offer pillar gauges as an option. They are aftermarket.
The reason why we like cold starting is because we want to know who has the biggest balls!!!
That's an obs so unless you changed the fuel system it doesnt have a electric fuel pump therefore you cant hear it when the key is on
I changed the fuel system. :-)
Had no idea robert downy jr was into 7.3s
Hey why not, right?!
Wow.. Is that overhead console that displays the temp put in from the factory? Curious as to what else it shows. I have a 95 f350 xlt which I thought had every option... Apparently not lol
No, that's an overhead console out of an Explorer that I added. It displays outside temperature and has a compass, that's about it.
Wow those gauges you have look really cool in the low lighting. What brand and model are they, if you don't mind me asking?
Glowshift gauges. These are the 7 color series.
@@diymechanictv1233 Thanks man :)
Happy to help.
u gotta redline as soon as it gets going
Starter has done more mile than the car itself
What year is your truck?
Ambient temperature: 10 degrees. Starter motor temperature: 210 degrees.
😂 Thats about right!
Turn your injection pump timing up by the thickness of a dime. It'll be easier to start, and you'll get rid of all that smoke after the initial startup puffs...
7.3 Powerstroke is HEUI, so there is no injection pump.
@@diymechanictv1233 Ah. I must have completely blanked on it being a powerstroke. Sorry... It was a brain fart.
Mods are good and bad..I suspect this one has mods..bigger injectors by the sounds of it,which will require more fuel to start...mine has no mods,highest mileage truck around that I know of..I did a cold start in roughly the same temp,a couple days ago,and posted it,if you're interested in comparing a cold start on a modded truck vs a stock one.
Injector P&B are larger but the nozzle size is the same. The worst thing about this motor is that it's taken a hit on compression due to poor air filter maintenance before I bought it.
Turn the key off and let the glow plugs cycle again and it will start better!
On an IDI truck that's the way the glow plug controller worked, but on the Powerstroke trucks, the glow plugs stay on for up to 2 minutes, even if the "Wait to Start" light has gone out.
Hey guys new to my 97 Ford F-350 in the winter. So if I let her glow for 2 minutes and it’s still hard to start, should I let it glow for another 2? Or continue to crank? Thanks guys. Be easy on me I’m new to the diesel scene 😂
@@SigmaPathfinder Your best bet is to watch the volt gauge. When the glow plugs are on, it pulls the voltage way down and the needle moves over closer to the 8v on the gauge. When they shut off, it will move back towards the center. They can run for up to 2 minutes when it is cold, but if thr engine is warm, they won't stay in that long. If you're having trouble with cold starts you may need to replace the glow plug relay or the glow plugs themselves.
DIYMechanicTV Thanks for the response! I actually replaced the glow plugs myself at the end of summer to get it ready for winter. One of the old ones were burnt out completely and another wasn’t even connected at all 🤦🏻♂️. Thanks for the useful knowledge!
Glow plugs?
your truck is way fussier then mine haha, probably good news for me then eh. She will start and maintain in below temps.
I think I may have had a couple glow plugs on their way out, and this motor doesn't have the compression that I wish it did. The PO wasn't real good about maintenance...
Mint
dawg that aint happy
You did not seeoverhead consoles in very many of that body style.
It wasn't an option for the OBS pickups. That's one I got out of an Explorer and put into my truck. I like having the compass and thermometer.
-13c? Ha. Come to Canada. That’s spring temps.
Yeah its a pretty high temperature, im off the lake superior up in duluth and it commonly gets to negative 60 with the cycling air over the lake
StalinsBitch damn. Coldest it gets in sask is around -47c
@@keegyweegy7803 yeah it gets super cold because the air sits over superior and since its so damn cold it cools the air even more and it when a western bound wind comes up it spikes real low
StalinsBitch almost as cold as a trumpet mouthpiece that hasn’t been used in a couple days lol 😂
say good night to your stater
Still kicking at this point, several years later. Cold starts like these are hard on batteries, though...
That was painful
Yeah it was!
When I had one I always sprayed break cleaner or starter fluid in it
Are those the maxtow/gloshift gauges? How do they hold up? Any problems?
They are Glowshift 7 color gauges (not the maxtow series). They were a de ent value for the price. I've not had any issue with mine after having used them for several years now. Some guys have trouble with them, but they've worked well for me so far.
ive never seen an obs with an outdoor temp gauge before. im guessing this must have been adapted over from a newer unit or is this an option i didnt know about????
No, that's something I added, using an overhead console from an Explorer. It was something I missed having so I added it myself.
@@diymechanictv1233 nice. I like it. That's a great idea.
I was looking at an aftermarket rear view mirror kit that displays the outdoor temp and compass in the corner.
@@d.j.758 I think I paid $20 for it at a junk yard. It required some work to make the console match the contour of the roof, but I think it turned out nice. You can get them in several different colors, so make sure you get one that matches your interior, and be sure to snag the temperature sensor (and a section of the lead for it -with the plug) behind the grill. I like having it!
I think you only had one working glow plug
I think you're right! Thanks for watching the channel.
Does your truck shake when you start it up
Not sure what you mean...
@@diymechanictv1233 when you start your truck does it shake
I guess it shakes when it fires and then idles smooth, why?
@@diymechanictv1233 because my Mom car Camaro used to shake when I started it up one time it moved by itself it used to shake when it was hard to start
Ah, the 7.3. T only decent ford
Sebastian Woodard 4.6
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6.0 after you bulletproof it, 6.4, 6.7, 3.5, 5.0, 4.6, 4.0 I could keep going if you like. Yeah the 6.0 was arguably a bad one as well as the 5.4 but Ford has made a lot more great engines other than the 7.3
@NO LIMIT SOULJA Are you serious?? Dude that's like saying Dodge doesn't make Cummins, I don't believe you!
@NO LIMIT SOULJA Wow dude, do you have any more facts that a 5 year old would know?
F250 super duty?
F350
I don’t understand either!
That 7.3 isn't liking the cold at all.
what is that overhead display out of and how did you get it all hooked up
That OHC is out of an Explorer. It's a pretty straight forward process to put on it, the wiring is pretty simple you just need the console, the temp sensor (and wiring) and some time. The worst part of the whole process is carefully cutting the sides of the console to fit the contour of the headliner to look right when you're finished. It's a pretty easy weekend project though, and I really like having the compass and temperature display in the truck.
My grandad has one in his f150 and you also find those in excursions
Looks like a bad injector or two judging by the exhaust
Run a synthetic oil, like 5-40 delo which should help some. If you are already, then LS swap.
lol
Might as well fry the starter
If it's gonna fail, might as well happen in the driveway! (BTW, years later it's still working fine.)
When cold starting my 2000 7.3 with 358k miles she only fires on first couple turns, holding ignition on doesnt change only on first turn of key, then she spins with nuthin, its weird cause a couple other pa trucks do the same thing, moss my idis rough starts
Meaning if she dont stay running for more then 1 seconds she dies back off
I tend to think that if it "coughs" and doesn't catch, that big snort of cold air cools off the combustion cylinders and you lose the heat from the glow plugs. When mine does that, I sometimes have to let off the key and let them plugs glow again for a while before I try it again. Really cold starts, though I tend to let it keep coughing as long as it's still trying to run.
do americans never get rid of anything? 221000 miles ,over here that would have been in the scrapyard 50k miles ago lol😁
Nope, we just keep em going for as long as parts are available. And with the price of new vehicles, we have to! It's a mortgage to get a new truck these days.
the engines normally last, its the rest that falls apart ,,getting hard to run older vehicles in the uk now ,,the emissions regs for older cars in london means a $20 A DAY charge ,,add in the yearly MOT tests and most people throw in the towell and buy something newer,,,local scrapyard near where i work must process 300 cars a day ,many now are only 8 or 9 years old ,certainly not worn out but too expensive to run as a daily,
,breaks my heart to see thousands of good quality cars getting minced up into scrap for chinese export,,millions of tons in co2 to produce them and then thousands to send it half way round the world on a ship guzzling heavy oil, thanks for the like😁👍👍👍👍
I couldn't agree more. It seems to me the most sustainable vehicle I could operate is the one I have! Plus I don't drive many miles (my commute to work is 4 miles - which is another way to think about being sustainable) so I don't burn much fuel. I think I heard the other day that the average lifespan of a car on the roads in America today has reached a new high of 12 years old. 😁 The newest vehicle in my fleet is 15.
I've just found that if I get a vehicle that I like, maintain it, and keep it going I can get more vehicle for my money by driving something that is older. Besides,our values right now just prioritize the expenditure on things other than vehicles. Some day that may change, but for now, I'll continue to enjoy my old cars and trucks.
@@diymechanictv1233 good old fashioned "bangernomics",,most people under 40 these days dont even know how to put air in the tyres,,changing a flat tyre is some sort of dark art,actually lifting the hood and changing parts/fluids is below them lol😁
Chris katan?
Tony Stark.
People like cold starts because people like seeing things destroyed. It's a stupid trend and a great example of the vast majority of diesel owners being the problem with the truck, not the motors.
whos here from the tik tok?
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Why should I want a truck that can’t even start
Doesn't make much sense does it? It's an illness....
I’ll probably just use a toaster as my block heater 😒
Or just plug in the actual block heater.
2:23
dammit ford is so reliable pfft ptfft lol
**old fords**
Next time put camera also by the tail pipe. Cheers.
Yeah, I would have liked to, but when I filmed this (on my phone) I didn't have a second camera.
rebuild
What does OBS mean?
It's a weird designation that refers to this period of trucks. Generally it is interpreted to mean Old Body Style. It's generally used to refer to 90s Ford and Chevy pickups.
Or "Old But Sexy" haha.
Or Outer Banks Special
@thomas barlow old body style
Old body style designated for the 94-97 model powerstrokes
lol she is NOT HAPPY lmao
No sir! Not happy at all. It starts a lot better now with new (all working) glow plugs.
@@diymechanictv1233 Haha, I'm one glow plugs down. I got 8 brand new ones in one glove box but haven't gotten around to actually changing them xD